This is an open forum. Some people in the comments may be discussing politics. If like Fox News watchers, you can’t handle the truth, this Open Forum may not be for you. You might want to find something else to do while the grown folks are talking.
Or you can talk about anything else you would like here as it is an OPEN FORUM like any other. I won’t be around too much to moderate because I have some sort of tummy issue going on. Please act like the adults you are. See you tomorrow.
Am taping the trial bc hubby and son did not want to watch so will comment in am. Thanks for this forum!
Well I was one of the lurkers, sorry you feel the need to alienate those who come here, and I am grown.
Hmm, what a strange comment. Bless your heart.
LOFL!
Roflmao!
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This is not a attack… Any “grown” person should be able to hold two thought at the same time. I appreciate TT having this open forum because I think it is important to reach every walk of life that might not invest the time in watching the hearings.
Don’t feel alienated, please post your thoughts or opinion so we can discuss it. Who knows maybe we both can learn something new?
Great answer,.
That’s the way we grown ups should do it! Thanks for the voice of reason.
This is not a trial. If it was a trial there would be defense council and cross examination. Liz Cheney would have you been forced to complete the reading of Trumps tweet where he said “Go Home”.
This is the continuation of the witch hunt.
Oh ok Karen… I mean Jen
Trump took hours to say anything. He also never called in any of the security / armed forces that he could have. So what’s your point?
President Trump offered National Guard protection. Pelosi was the decider and she said no.
Fake News BS
THAT IS A LIE!!’
That’s not true at all. The testimony from General Milley was that Trump didn’t call anyone at all on 1/6 to help. Pence finally took charge. And no, Pelosi wasn’t in charge.
That’s not true either. Pelosi was indeed in charge there. And out of her own mouth said she didn’t want the guard’s at the time. But it could have been while she was drunk and didn’t remember. 🤷♀️
From the USA Today:
“ But a look at the Capitol Police’s chain of command shows that Pelosi wasn’t in charge of the law enforcement agency on Jan. 6. USA TODAY previously rated a similar claim false, and other independent fact-checking organizations have reached similar conclusions”
Like I said, it was out of her mouth qt the time. Maybe to much 🍺
Beets, that is just pure…Malarkey!
hahahahahaaa that is soooooo untrue. Not sure what it is going to take for Trumpers to believe that the election was not fraud.
They wouldn’t have been there if TRUMP didn’t tell they to come. Period.
This is called a “hearing”, nobody participating has called it a “trial”. Facts.
You’ve labelled it, “a trial” then complained that the word isn’t an accurate description.
Trump did tweet to the insurrectionists, hours and hours after the insurrection began and only after he realized, he wasn’t going to overturn the election. He stood around watching the spectacle with glee from a safe distance on the telly as officers, protecting our capital were unmercifully beaten and struggled to hold the line to protect our capital from a mob threatening to hang the people inside and desecrate the building.. . All facts. Fwiw and importantly, at no time did Trump attempt to contact the National Guard, the military etc to protect the people in the Capital or the officers. He thought it appropriate that the insurrectionists hang Mike Pence.
Mike Pence made the calls.
Witch hunt! LoL. yeah, my parents watch Fox 24/7 too.
Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining. Wishing and emotions aren’t Facts.
That’s the truth but alas many prefer the lies so they can continue to cheer on their Fuhrer Trump…freaking disgusting
clapping at your statement. Thank you.
Great response!
BARB— BeetsWhy is here with you and we are the voice of reason.
The production last night was… was… I don’t know how to say it politely… PRODUCED. I was waiting for Donny and Marie to come out with the Brady kids and announce this Very Special Episode.
Please tell me why the Dems needed to air this “trial” in prime time on every free channel—unlike Sesame Street that is only for the wealthy children on HBO Max.
The “insurrection” compared to the “mostly peaceful protests” is utterly laughable. The fact that the Dems had to edit and splice the video timing of Trump’s speech and the first entry of the four or five people dressed in all black, head to toe, tells you everything.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to notice such thing’s. 👏👏
Yuck! Don’t drink the crazy red hat kool-aid . Come back to reality.
Just because people have different opinions don’t mean they’re “drinking the kool-aid ” 🙄 Some like to do their own research and actually have their own opinions. But everyone slams each other and bites off the head’s of other’s, all because they can’t have a conversation . If more people would have conversations instead of name calling and sinuations the world would be a better place. 🤷♀️
Agree with you but if you read below you will find that I am a “joke”. Some people believe you must comply. Sometimes you have to laugh.
I don’t think it’s a “joke” for people to have different opinions. What I do think is a “joke” is the name calling and berating of other’s. Instead of having a conversation people just put each other down, sad…
You are not a joke. You have made very valid points. Both sides need to take a seat and re evaluate whet the hell has happened to this country. No one good wants to run for office anymore. It is terrifying.
Lol, own research. Do you know what the word even means?
The noun is the systemic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions.
Systemic investigation isn’t FOX news or you tube.
Pretty sure I know the difference. And what does fox or you tube as you put it have to do with anything? Is that where you get your info?
It tells rational people one thing and MAGA conspiratorial Qnuts another. You’re asking us to continually deny what we saw, most of us live.
Not doing it..
Another excuse to his horrible behavior.
Thanks so much for all you do here, TT, and sorry that I wasn’t around much for a while. For some reason, Google Ads blanketed the entire pages with auto-generated ads whenever I’d pull up the site on my phone, but it seems like that finally got fixed.
I don’t think I can handle watching the hearings on TV. After everything I looked up last year and everything I witnessed in person for several years prior, I’m still haunted by so much. I’m still so afraid of what lies ahead for our country.
So afraid. How is it possible that people are stll in denial of what happened at the behest of TFG? Too many people in government…and outside government…with NO moral compass at all.
Some people still don’t believe that the Holocaust ever happened. There’s no accounting for stupid.
Some believe that the Earth is flat.
Some believe — MY FAVORITE — that JFK Jr. is coming back to save the Trumpers and QAnons! WTF?
IF JFK Jr. EVER WERE to come back, WHY would he be on Trump’s bandwagon?
And some people believe those who do not comply with their wishes are jokes. There’s no accounting for stupid.
TFG??? What am I missing???
Never mind. It just came to me ……
A long time ago we we’re supposed to use names other than correct names. Apparently that has changed.
So so scary how deeply in denial the red hats are.
If you think it will bother you, don’t watch. You will hear the outcome and if you like it, you can watch it then, if you want. The entire hearing is — and I hate that this word is over- and incorrectly used almost as much as “gaslighting” has been lately — fucking SURREAL.
It seems like some fiction. That our POSTUS (I have yet to call him the standard honorific) was the ringleader, is especially unreal. I wish it were fiction. If he goes to jail, it will make watching it worth it.
We’ve both been here forever, but I have to ask you: what has Biden/Harris done that is positive for the people of this country?
I’m not being a dick, I am genuinely curious what you guys think Biden/Harris have done to make this country better.
I dunno, here are a few to consider, in addition to just being civilized human beings who can act like adults when visiting foreign leaders.
https://capaction.medium.com/what-has-joe-done-for-me-lately-biden-administration-accomplishments-98c71f9ce2d8
Thank you!
Dear BeetsWhy,
Below you will find a lot of information. I’ve spent most of the morning compiling this list. You’ll forgive my typing, no doubt.
Additionally, you’ll note this list does not include the fact that he was the driving force behind NATO’s reunification/collective assistance with respect to Ukraine, flying in baby formula, or a myriad of other things because this list is in no way comprehensive.
I’m tired. This was a lot, but I cannot sit idly by and allow people to think nothing has happened just because so much good has happened.
-Sunshine
-One. 9 trillion American rescue plan
– $1400 stimulus checks for adults, children an adult dependence
– One year child tracks credit expansion 3600 0 to 5, 3006 to 17, removed income requirements and made fully refundable.
– One year EITC expansion
-350 billion state and local aid
-130 billion for schools for safe reopening
-40 billion for higher Ed, half of which might just go to student aid
-Extended $300 supplement UI through September 2021.
-Expanded eligibility for extended you die to cover new categories
-Made $10,200 in UI from 2020 tax free
-1 billion for Headstart program
-24 billion childcare stabilization fund
-15 billion in low income child care grants
-One year child and dependent care credit expansion
-46.5 billion in housing assistance
-21.5 billion rental assistance
-$10 billion homeowner relief
-5 billion for section 8 vouchers
-5 billion to fight homelessness
-5 billion for utilities assistance
-Extended vacation moratorium through August 2021 (Supreme Court struck down)
-Two-year a CA tax credit expansion and ending of subsidy cliff — expanded coverage to millions and cut costs for millions more
-100% COBRA subsidy through September 30, 2021
-Six month special enrollment period from February to August 2021
-Required insurers to cover prep, and HIV prevention drug, including all clinical visits relating to
-Extended open enrollment from 45 to 76 days
-New year round special enrollment period for low income enrollees
-Restored navigator program to assist with ACA sign-up
-Removed separate billing requirement for ACA abortion coverage
-Eliminated regulation that allows states to privatize their exchanges
-Eliminated all Medicaid work requirements
-Permanently removed restriction on access to abortion pills by mail
-Signed the accelerating access to critical therapies for a LS act to fund increased ALS research and expedite access to experimental treatments
-Rescinded Mexico City policy — global gag rule – which barred international nonprofits from receiving US funding if they provided abortion counseling or referrals
-Allowed states to extend through Medicare and ship to postpartum women for one year – up from 60 days
-42 lifetime federal judges confirmed – the most in 40 years
-13 Circuit Court judges
29 District Court judges
-Named first openly LBGTQ woman to sit on an appeals court, first Muslim American federal judge, and record number of black women and public defenders
-1.2 trillion infrastructure law including 550 billion in new funding
-110, billion for roads and bridges
-66 billion for passenger and freight rail
-39 billion for public transit, +30.5 billion in public transit funds from ARP
-65 billion for grid expansion to build out grid for clean energy transmission
-50 billion for climate resiliency
-21 billion for environmental remediation, including super fun cleanup and cutting orphan wells
-7.5 billion for electric passes
-7.5 billion for electric charging stations
55 billion for water and waste water, including lead pipe removal
65 billion for affordable broadband
25 billion for airports, +8,000,000,000 from AARP
17 billion for ports and waterways
1 billion in reconnecting communities
Rejoined the Paris climate accords 50% commission reduction goal — 2005 levels — by 2030
EO instructing all federal agencies to implement climate change prevention measures
Order 100% carbon free electricity federal procurement by 20 3
100% zero emission light vehicle procurement by 2027, all vehicles by 2035
Net zero federal building portfolio by 2045, 50% reduction by 2032
Net zero federal procurement no later than 2050
Net zero emissions from federal operations by 2050, 65% reduction by 2030
Finalized rule slashing the use of hydrofluorocarbons by 85% by 2036 – will slow temp rise by 0.5°C on its own.
-Set new fuel efficiency standards for cars and light trucks, raising the requirement for 2026 from 43 miles per gallon to 55 miles per gallon
-Protected Tongass national forest, one of the worlds largest carbon sinks, from development, mining and logging
-Revoked Keystone XL permit
-Used the CRA to reverse the Trump admin methane rule, restoring stronger Obama era standards
-EPA proposed new methane rule stricter than Obama rule, would reduce 41,000,000 tons of methane emissions by 2035
-Partnered with the EU to create the global methane pledge which over 100 countries have signed to reduce methane emissions by 30% by 2030 from 2020 levels
-US/EU trade deal to reward clean steel and aluminum and penalize dirty production
-Ended US funding for new coal and fossil fuel projects overseas and prioritized funding towards clean energy projects
-G7 partnership for build back better world — to fund hundreds of billions in climate friendly infrastructure in developing countries
-Restoring California’s ability to set stricter climate requirements
-Signed EO on climate related financial risk that instructs rule making agencies to take climate change related risk into consideration when writing rules and regulations
-100 million for environmental justice initiatives
-1 billion for Everglades restoration
-100 million for environmental justice initiatives
-30 GW offshore wind plan, includes largest ever offshore wind lease sale in New York and New Jersey
-largest ever offshore wind lease sale in New York and New Jersey
-Expedited reviews of offshore wind projects
-3 billion in TOE loans for offshore wind projects
-230, million import infrastructure for offshore wind
-Solar plan to reduce cost of solar by more than 50% by 2030 including 128, million in funding to lower cost and improve performance of solar technology
-Multi agency partnership to expedite clean energy projects on federal land
-Instructed department of energy to strengthen appliance efficiency rules
-Finalized rule to prevent cheating on efficiency standards
-Repealed federal architecture EO that made sustainable federal buildings harder to build
-Reversed size cuts and restored projections protections to Bears Ears, Grand Staircase—Escalante, and Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine National Monuments
-Restoring an EPA regulations to take into account climate change and environmental impacts in federal permitting
-Extended public health emergency through at least April 15, 202 2
-50 billion in funding for FEMA for Covid disaster relief including vaccine funding
-Set 100% FEMA reimbursement to states for Covid costs, retroactively to start a pandemic
-47.8 billion for testing
-1.75 billion for Covid genome sequencing
-8.5 billion to CDC for vaccines
-7.6 billion to state and local health department
-7.6 billion to community health centers
-6 billion to Indian health services
-17 billion to the VA, including 1 billion to forgive veteran medical death
-3 billion to address mental health and substance abuse
-Over 500 million vaccine shots administered in a year
-Established 90,000 free vaccine sites
-Raise federal reimbursement from $23-$40 per shot for vaccine sites
-6000 troops deployed for initial vaccination
-Cash incentives, free rides, free child care for initial vaccine Drive
-400 million vaccines donated internationally, 1.2 billion committed
-2 billion contribution to COVAX for global vaccinations
-Find expansion of vaccine manufacturing in India and South Africa
-Implemented vaccine mandate for federal employees, contractors, and employees at healthcare providers that received Medicare/Medicaid funding
-Implemented vaccine/test mandate for large businesses (Supreme Court struck down)
-Involved DPA for testing, vaccine, PPE manufacturing
-Federal mask mandate for federal buildings, federal employees and public transportation
-Implemented test requirement for international travel
-Implemented joint FDA dash and ice age expedited process to approve at home test more quickly
-Over 20,000 free federal testing sites
-8 at home test per month required to be reimbursed by insurance
-1 billion at home test available for free by mail
-15 million at home test available free at community health centers
-25 million high-quality reusable masks for low income residence in early 2021
-400 million free N 95 mask at pharmacies and health centers
-Military medical teams deployed to help overburdened hospitals
-Rejoined world health organization
-Ended the ban on trans soldiers in the military
-Reversed Trump admin limits on both stock ruling and fully enforced it
-Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ patients in healthcare
-Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ families in housing under the fair housing act
-Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ people in the financial system to access loans or credit
-Justice Department declared that title IX prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in education
-Revoked ban on federal diversity training
-Instructed the VA to review its policies to remove barriers to care for trans veterans
-First Senate confirmed LGBTQ cabinet secretary
-First transperson confirmed by the Senate
-Extended birthright citizenship to children as same-sex couples born abroad
-State department allows X gender marker on passport for non-binary Americans
-Banned new contracts with private prisons for criminal prisons
-Justice Department reestablish is the use of consent agrees with police departments
-Pattern and practice investigation into Phoenix, Louisville and Minneapolis
-Band shell cards and limited no knock rates among federal law-enforcement
-Initiative to ban modern day red lining
-Doubled DOJ civil rights division staff
-Increased percentage of federal contract for small disadvantaged businesses from 5% to 15% – 100 billion in additional contracts over five years
-Sued Texas and Georgia over voting laws. Sue Texas over abortion law. Sue Georgia over prison abuse.
-Signed law making Juneteenth a federal holiday
-Signed EEO to use the federal government to improve voting access through federal programs and departments
-Signed COVID-19 hate crime act which made more resources available to support the reporting of hate crimes
-Signed EO for diversity in the federal workplace
-Increased federal employment opportunities for previously incarcerated persons
-Band ghost guns
-New regulations on pistol stabilizing braces
-First annual gun trafficking report in 20 years
-No zero tolerance policy for gun dealers who willfully violate the law
-Signed see OPS act ensuring confidential Aliti for peer counseling for police officers
-Signed protecting America’s first responders act, expediting benefits for officers disabled in the line of duty
-Signed bill making it a crime to harm US law enforcement overseas
-Student loan freezes through April 30, 2022
-Change criteria so an additional 1.14 million borrowers qualified for the loan pause (retroactively forgave interest and penalties)
-Forgiven 11.5 billion in student loans for disabled students, students who were defrauded and PSLF
-Fixed PSLF so that it is much easier for previous payments to apply
-Determined that the past months will apply to PSLF
-Student loan debt forgiveness is tax free through 2025
-Ended border wall emergency and canceled all new border wall construction and contracts
-Repealed trumps Muslim ban
-Set FY 2022 refugee cap to 125,000, the highest in almost 30 years
-Prohibits ice from conducting workplace rates
-Family reunification task force to reunite separated families. Reunited over 1000 families and gave them status to stay in US
-Granted or extended TPS for Haitian, Venezuelans, Syrians and Liberians
-Lifted moratorium on green cards and immigration visas
-Ended use of public charge rule to deny green cards
-Do you send the criteria to qualify for asylum
-Changed ICE enforcement priorities
-Re-initiated the CAM refugee program for northern triangle miners to apply for asylum from their country
-1 billion in public aid and private investment for addressing the root causes of migration
-Ended family detention of immigrants and move towards other monitoring
-HHS prohibited working with ice on enforcement for sponsors of unaccompanied minors
-Got rid of harder citizenship test
-Allowed certain visas to be obtained without an in person consulate interview
-Rescinded metering policy that limited migrants at ports of entry
-Ended the war in Afghanistan — the first time in 20 years United States is not involved in a war
-Ended support for Saudi offensive operations in Yemen
-Airstrikes down 54% in 2021 from 2020
-Issued policy restricting down drone airstrikes outside of war zones
-Restored 235 million in aid to Palestinians
-AUKUS defense pact with Australia and UK
-New rules to counter extremism within the military
-Signed law fund in capital police and Afghan refugees
-EO on competitiveness to write consumer friendly rules such as right to repair
-EO on improving government experience including Social Security benefits which will be able to be claimed online, passports can be renewed online
-Makes it easier for low income families to apply for benefits
-Increased telehealth options
-WIC recipients can use benefits online
-7.25 billion in additional PPP funds
-Signed PPP extension law to extend the program for two months
-Changed criteria to make it easier for small and minority businesses to qualify for PPP loans
-Restaurant recovery fund to recover lost revenue up to 5 million per location based on taxes paid
-1.25 billion shuttered venue fund 10.4 billion for agriculture
-30 year bail out of multi employer pension funds that protects millions of pensions through 2051
-Pro labor majority appointed to NLRP
-Establish task force to promote unionization
-Restored collective bargaining rate for federal employees
-Negotiate a deal for west cost ports to run 24/7 to ease supply chain
-Signed EO to secure and strength and supply chains
-Investing 1 billion and small food processors to combat meat prices
-Extended 15% SN a P benefit increase through September 30, 2021
-Made 12 million previously ineligible beneficiaries eligible for the increase
-Public health emergency helps keeps benefits in place
-Largest permanent increase of SNAP benefit and history raising permanent benefits by 27% —20 billion per year
-made school lunches free for all through the 2021-2022 school year
-Extended the pandemic EBT program
-Largest ever summer food program in 2021 provided 34 million students with $375 for meals over the summer
-Restarted the FHA – HFA risk sharing program to finance affordable housing development
-Raised fanny/Freddy’s low income housing tax credit from 1 billion to one. 7 billion a year to invest in affordable housing
-383 million CMF grant program for affordable housing production
-Prioritizing owner occupants and nonprofits as purchasers of FHA insured and distressed HUD properties rather than large investors
-Paid a 10% retention incentive to permanent federal firefighters and a $1000 bonus to seasonal firefighters
-Transitions hundreds of federal firefighters from part-time to full-time and hired hundreds more
26.6 billion in supplemental disaster relief approved for natural disasters
-8.7 billion in funding to increase lending to minority communities
-Released 1.3 billion in Puerto Rico disaster aid previously held up by the Trump administration and removed restrictions on 8.2 billion housing disaster aid
-For gave 371 million and community disaster loans in Puerto Rico
-Released 912 million and previously withheld education aid to Puerto Rico
-Permanently made all families in Puerto Rico eligible for the CTC, previously only families with three or more children were permitted
-Provided permanent funding to quadruple the size of Puerto Rico as local earned income tax credit
-Permanent 3 billion per year boost to funding for Puerto Rico’s Medicaid program
-Raise community minimum wage to $15 an hour for federal contractors, eliminating the minimal wage exception for certain contractor positions and ended the tipped contractor wage
-Ordered minimum wage for federal employees to be raised to $15 an hour
-Medicaid drug rebate change to discourage excessive price increases and to save government 23.5 billion
-Incentives for states to expand Medicaid
-Finalize the rule that band surprise medical bills for out of network medical services
-Instituted a moratorium on the federal death penalty
Wow! Thank you Sunshine.
Sunshine! Your name fits you! Thank you!!!
Can you give us a breakdown on how these were paid for with us being trillions in debt? I’m not being ugly I would really like to know.
Also I would like to know why his rating is so low after doing all these wonderful things. Still just want to know, not trying to be controversial.
It is not and will never be enough for you. She gave you a list I got tired of reading of reading and still you want her to do more to educate you. This is why it is not possible to have a conversation as you all keep requesting very disingenuously. Google works for all or would you like her to wipe your butt for you too?
So, you’re not trying to be ugly or controversial, but, since you can’t deny the extensive list of accomplishments of the current POTUS, you now pivot to demanding somebody educate you as to how this is being paid for and why his ratings are so low? Popularity is not a reflection of accomplishment in America. That’s how con men can go from reality tv stars to GOP demigods in an election cycle in the US.
For those who don’t understand, there is always the option of doing your own fact finding by researching your questions via hard copy or an electronic search. Facts are never controversial, they exist because researchers have gone to great time, effort and expense to provide a verified answer to your questions. We are very lucky in this country to have free access to information In many areas of the world, that is not the case. Most if not all of your inquiries expressed above can be satisfied by spending the time and effort to research them. Happy hunting!
Yup , me too. Not trying to be ugly either. Seems like when people don’t want to answer with facts they want to call names and shame you. We need to be fiscally responsible as well. Lot’s of money being spent above. I worry that we are always so quick to throw money at everything.
I agree with you. I can write checks too. That is a lot of stuff he has gotten through for the same kind of issues. We are in trouble the kind that money is not going to buy us out of. I love this country and I want us to STAY the USA. Sorry but we need better leaders than the ones we have been given to choose from in the last several years.
All those giveaways Sunshine listed are the *problem.* They are not a good thing. They are why inflation is so high (highest in 40 years, and still going up). Inflation most hurts lower- and middle-income people.
The role of government is to ensure a safe, orderly environment for people to make something of their life; it is not to give everyone handouts. The current handout spree is going to be terrible for the future. It is why we are experiencing this inflation and are on the brink of a depression.
Biden has been a disaster on every front–the open Southern border has enabled fentanyl and other drugs to pour in. One hundred thousand people have died from fentanyl poisoning.
Biden has caused this terrible inflation and high gas prices (which started going up as soon as he shut down the XL pipeline and other energy initiatives his first day in office). He tries to blame gas prices on Putin, but that’s an obvious lie, since prices were going up well before Putin invaded. So now we are no longer energy-independent, and Biden has to go begging to the Saudis.
He completely botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, causing the deaths of 13 American servicemembers and scores of Afghanis, plus giving $80+ billion of our military weapons and equipment to the Taliban.
That botched Afghanistan withdrawal emboldened Putin to invade Ukraine, and now we are on the brink of war with a nuclear power. And his gaffes about Taiwan have endangered us on another front.
Biden is utterly corrupt, as Hunter’s laptop revealed–with Hunter, Joe, and brother James taking millions from China and Russia, our greatest enemies.
He is an incompetent, senile doofus, who touches the chests of young girls and sniffs their hair. If you haven’t seen the compilation video of him doing these things, just google it.
His administration has labeled parents “domestic terrorists,” and tried to set up a Ministry of Truth to silence people they didn’t like.
He has been a complete disaster.
Amen! Wonder where she cut and pasted that list from, the campaign office to reelect the President? The Republicans don’t want Trump running again. It would only further divide the country. There would be more of the same “investigations” and nothing would be accomplished in four years. They need to run someone who has a combination of business experience as well as political without actually being a Washington insider and who doesn’t rely on PAC or lobbyist money. That of course is a unicorn. Better to rely on each state’s own governance and local elections and hope that the Fed doesn’t just implode. The state that takes less Federal money and relies on its own economy and people will be the stronger in the end.
That sums it up nicely! Great post!
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Again nothing is enough. If the give always are hour issue they started with 45. And although some may say it was too much there were a lot of fellow citizens who needed the help. As for your corruption statement your arguing in favor of someone who is a known thief, who along with his children, all of the adult ones stole from a charity as well as his own contributors.
You must be talking about Biden.
Preach!
SD, bless your heart you are so misinformed. See my responses below.
Inflation is high because of post-pandemic demands (supply shortages and consumer demands) and the war in Ukraine. Its important to note that the stimulate checks, is also a factor. The economy today, would have been impacted no matter who was elected president.
Roles of the Government:
To form a more perfect Union
To establish Justice
To insure domestic Tranquility
To provide for the common defense
To promote the general Welfare
To secure the Blessings of Liberty
Southern Boarder (Mexico)
In January 2019 Trump created the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP). In January 2021, Biden temporarily suspended the MPP program. However, Missouri and Texas challenged the decision in a Texas district court and won. The Supreme Court upheld the lower court’s ruling. MPP (Trump’s program) formally restarted in December 202l. Question for you: Who’s policy is failing?
Fentanyl
Street fentanyl can come from two main sources, illegal drug labs or patches that have been sold by or stolen from people they were prescribed to.
High Gas Prices
Let’s start with the XL pipeline myth. XL pipeline has absolute nothing to do with high gas prices, it was not completed and had a completion date of 3 years The existing Keystone pipeline system, which was built before the XL expansion was proposed and continue to provide to provide energy to the US.
The US has not been energy independent in decades. High Gas Prices problem was not created by a single individual or political party, it was created by global forces. This is an extremely complex issue, but if you want to know more, her you go: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2022/06/13/the-real-reason-behind-higher-oil-and-gasoline-prices/?sh=58f8b456f89b
Afghanistan Withdrawal
While the withdrawal from Afghanistan could have been handle differently, maybe. I have go with the old adage of “If not now, when?
Putin does not need any motivation from others to do his deed, he does good all by himself. I believe, without facts, that he was hoping trump would win reelection to support his evil deeds.
The rest of your comments related to Biden competent and being corrupt is just ridiculous and so is the “domestic terrorists” and “Ministry of Truth” comments.
We all know who was corrupt, incompetent, senile doofus, and who grabbed women by the pu**y. If you haven’t seen the video of trump doing these things, just google it. Also, be sure to watch the hearings for a front row seat of a bully and corrupt person in action..
Sunshine, you are aptly named! It’s so sad that some people can’t judge decency. Honor and compassion for themselves rather than listening to an egomaniac lying about a rigged, stolen election while he’s sucking people in and lining his own pockets on their hard earned money. How many more times will a Democrat president have to clean up the mess left by Republicans? Than God President Biden didn’t have 8 years of dumb shit to deal with.
I won’t comment on what they have done for the country but off the top of my head the 4 years Trump was in power I could not AFFORD health insurance…some how come March after Biden took over my health insurance went from 1800 a month down to 400 a month and I could afford it! For me that’s enough…everyone has an issue that is critical to them and for me it’s being able to afford health insurance. I could not do that for 4 years…for 4 years I had no health insurance and my chronic illnesses had to go untreated. May not mean a dern thing to anyone else but to me it’s huge.
Biden, whether he be good bad or indifferent is irrelevant when subject at hand is Trump and the events of January 6, 2021.
I’ve tried watching, but I just can’t. It just sickens me!
It was on par with Biden’s appearance on Kimmel.
Last January Biden’s people knew his approval ratings were 💩 and they promised he would have monthly televised updates with the American people. It’s June. He has had ZERO UPDATES.
But he went on the lowest rated late night show to embarrass this country again. Super.
Versus calling a joke of a morning show so they can make you feel good about tanking our country or to wish you wife a happy birthday. Sorry your complaint lacks substance. Having someone tweet foolishness and lies doesn’t equal keeping the country informed either.
Are you talking about the shape of our country right now as being tanked?
I’m talking about the whole 45 dug us into.
I thought the opening comments were informative and powerful. That was well done!
Agreed!
It was. I have a new found respect for Ms. Chaney.
I’m watching. It’s hard but so important. I have been sobbing at points. Even already knowing it, it’s unbelievable. Barr’s testimony: election being stolen “it’s bullshit”. Ivanka Trump’s testimony: “I accepted what Mr Barr said.” And on and on. Then the unseen footage of the breach.
This is being handled so well. The unfortunate part is that Trump fans won’t believe it, or if they believe the testimony, they won’t see anything wrong with what was done. The day after this happened I posted video on my FB page and told my friends & relatives if they thought this attack on the House was OK or justified, they needed to unfriend me because I wanted nothing more to do with them. I parted ways with people I’ve known for years. After the hearing has been completed, I’m going to make that same offer. I want nothing to do with anyone who supports this attack or supports Trump.
We need many more people like you!!
It just makes me sad for America. They are preaching to the choir and Trumpers and fox viewers won’t change and the republicans will win the elections. I was watching Nicole Wallace and she asked one of the guests why is this (school massacres) still happening. He said it works for the Republicans.
I am sorry but Colombine happened 29 years ago and BOTH parties have had a chance to do SOMETHING to show that there was care about gun responsibility. NOTHING has been done. It isn’t one side. I think you would be surprised at how many Democrat senators and congressman like their guns too.
I am too very sad for U.S. Love my country. These were FRINGE groups. Not all people who watch Fox News CNN or whatever channel you choose don’t think for themselves. I like hearing both sides and making up my own mind. I have friends on both sides and they are good people. I try not to let the MEDIA shape my thoughts.
Hi. I agree with you 100%. Fringe groups have been around forever. The reason we are so aware of them now is due to 24 hour news and the internet. I also have friends who are far left dems, middle of the road dems, far right reps and middle of the road reps. I accept them for who they are and find something good in all of them. Both sides have ignored gun control for years and years. They are both to blame. As for the insurrection? I find it horrible and wrong. You can’t always get your way. Sadly, today, many people don’t think like that. It’s either their way or you are wrong. And that is not what this country was built on…. Everyone needs to stop hating. Just stop hating.
Well said, and same here. I watch many news channel’s, including fox and CNN, they’re both one sided and never give whole truths. I make up my own mind and do my own research. But I do wish they’d concentrate on what’s happening now, the shortage of food, formula , the prices of gas, rent, food etc. A lot of people are barely surviving and it’s only going to get worse. There’s a 50 50 chance that in 2 years we will be in the worse depression ever, sad…
Agree. I worry about those on fixed incomes. Now it’s being reported there will also be a food shortage and we need to keep 2 months worth of groceries on hand. I’ve never seen things as dire as what we are living through right now.
100 per cent agree. I would like gun reform not control. I beleive in the second ammendment but with restrictions. I too am very concerned about food, medicine for the elderly and all people. The PRICE of everything. I heard today that Ukraine is having a crisis of getting grain out of the port Russia most wants to control. There are thousands of lbs. It is already effecting Africa and causing food crisis. They expect it will go global.
It is no wonder there is so much anger. I am afraid of a depressions too.
This !!!!!!
remember when they reran the watergate hearings at night? they were live during the day but everybody worked, no cable, no vcrs. now that was summer must watch tv.
Another historic event that would have been deemed “too unreal” if someone had written it as fiction.
Like the live OJ trial. But they didn’t rerun it at night, unless you had cable, because they ran the soap operas that his trial bumped.
Please Vote in local and national elections. And do not forget the lynching platform
And the confederate flag in the Capital. We almost lost democracy. Do not take this
This lightly we have people burning books and still believing the lie of Trump
Yes!!!! This is the kost powerful thing we can do to save our country
Yes!!!
TT?
I am genuinely curious as to why all the destruction and crime in many cities do not warrant the same outrage. I’m not being controversial I am sincerely trying to understand how cities like Chicago Portland and NYC can experience such destruction of property, businesses destroyed neighborhoods terrorized and the outrage is not heard, where is the news special on TV about the detrimental after effects about those protests?
OH!OH!OH! PICK ME! I KNOW! Protesters are protected by the constitution within limits. The actual RIOTERS in those cities were arrested and prosecuted. The reason there was a live HEARING about THE INSURRECTION is because attempts to overthrow the election BY A SITTING PRESIDENT is kind of big deal. A SITTING PRESIDENT encouraging his sycophants to kill the vice president. A sitting president to do NOTHING and call in no national guards or military of any kind to protect the capitol building in or the congresspeople inside the the the capitol. To refuse to call them off. To tell them they are special people and he loves them is the kind of thing that happens in Third World Countries led by dictators. The sitting president did NOTHING to protect the vice president or any of the members in congress under attack. Instead, the SITTING PRESIDENT ENCOURAGE THE ENTIRE COUP ATTEMPT despite every single one of his advisors and his own daughter telling him he had LOST THE ELECTION.
Does that help?
If I may add, it was proven that many of the rioters were NOT community members, but white, far right infiltrators who helped incite many of the riots and caused much of the destruction!
Absolutely! Unfortunately I’ve only heard this mentioned once in the news. A reporter who was embedded in BLM peaceful protest marches, all day long, over many days said that they would see people coming in from side streets in the evening and joining their groups. People who have lived long enough know how peaceful protests usually go so it seemed quite plausible that right-wing sh*t disturbers were joining those protests and causing most if not all of the trouble & property destruction. And of course they would love to do this to make the BLM protesters look bad. (Didn’t Kyle Rittenhouse turn up at a peaceful protest?)
Tfg’s supporters said many times that the Capitol invaders were dems, antifa, etc. Totally sounds like something out of tfg’s playbook.
That was certainly true here in Portland.
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Like you can equate that with OVERTHROWING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, ffs. Everybody is lying except the people you side with, including his daughter and Bill Barr.? I wish I had a gif of someone with crossed eyes clapping and farting.
PERFECT reply. I am so tired of people trying to use “whataboutism” with BLM protests vs The Insurrection. 🙁 🙁
Oh, and “Nancy Pelosi did it” is the weakest line of bullshit going. Try harder. Why be such an easy mark? 5 seconds on google would clear this up for you.
Security of the Capitol Complex is the direct responsibility of the four-member Capitol Police Board, which includes both sergeants-at-arms.
The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader; in the days leading up to and including Jan. 6, that was Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell.
The house sergaent at arms resisted calling in the Natl Guard because intelligence didn’t “seem” to warrant it. He should have checked FB. That shit was everywhere.
Those lunatics were wandering the halls crooning “Naaan cyyyy..’ You think she didn’t want cops there to make Rs look bad? Ok, Hondo.
Well, the rioters who ripped apart Michigan Avenue in Chicago were not prosecuted. At all. They were released on bail and never tried. The shootings in Chicago right now are at a record high and Lightfoot does nothing. Kim Fox lets them all go. The poor people who just want to live their lives are getting shot at while watching tv in their own homes. Or car jacked while driving. Or walking out of the hospital to their cars in parking garages. Multiple time felons are out on the streets. Nobody does anything because nobody cares. Where is all the outrage about all the little kids getting killed in Chicago? I’ve been wondering this since Obama was in office which is when the crime started spiking and the thugs started taking over the good neighborhoods. There are no good neighborhoods left in Chicago now. It’s a shit show.
Chicago isn’t the topic of the hearings. Insurrectionists and their leaders including the former POTUS are. Stay on topic.
It’s an open forum. Anything goes — that doesn’t break the commenting rules.
Changing the subject is a defensive tactic. Defensiveness implies guilt.
Poor Gigi is guilty?
Well it should be.
@TT: PREACH!!!
I’m not sure what news sources you watch or what involvement you have in your community. That may be the difference in your perspective. I live in a “high crime” city and I can tell you firsthand that there are many community organizations out there having protests about gun violence and doing work to lower crime in communities. And our local media does cover those organizations (not as much as they could/should). So the narrative that city crime is not met with outrage is false.
Absolutely. The only time coverage is granted is if it is a high name person or group. Much of the real work done for good in this country is done by local groups and organizations within their communities. It , in my opinion, is usually the every day people of this country who get stuff done and never seem to ask for anything in return.
Where is your outrage for the police brutality and killings of innocent people of color? Start with that, Honey.
Exactly. I’m concerned about cops murdering black people. Buildings can be rebuilt. Humans never come back. Imagine the privilege one must think they have to act concerned about a bunch of property but don’t give a shit about people.
I live 2 blocks from the George Floyd protests. First I need to tell you we were not afraid of the local protesters. We were scared of all the folks from different states that drove in to take an opportunity to loot. We were mist afraid of the tall muscular doods with random various military fatigues meeting on the streets and hiding different flammable in our yards. There were white supremacists and anarchists and God knows what other kind of fringe groups here burning down our buildings. The locals were tame. But to your point, yes all of this was less scary than an attempted coup and how close we came to losing our Democracy! We almost become an authoritarian ruled nation with Herr Trump in charge of our very lives.
I turned on Fox. Just to see. Lasted 5 minutes. And I agree, supporters will grasp at straws Newf Gingrich was throwing out. That Nancy Pelosi turned down the offer from Trump for 20k troops. No evidence .. no facts. But that’s his reason for discrediting the facts presented tonight.
I didn’t cry until the female Capitol Police Officer testified … how horrendous her account and experience. Then the thought crossed my mind that she was violated and almost died on January 6th, protecting Republicans who will violate her rights as a woman by controlling her body and put her in danger again supporting gun rights for pissed off people. I know I’m not saying it correctly but all of this is too much.
I share you horror of that. I hope fucking Trump has to pay her some damages, more than $1million.
I think you said it perfectly. Thank you!
God, I hope before this is over they show more texts from the news anchors at Fox. The fact that they opened with one from Hannity gives me hope. Why they had a direct line to the WH and chiming in to executive branch is more than disturbing.
Ps- thanks for giving us a place to discuss this, TT.
The fact that Fox is not carrying the 1/6 Committee Hearings says it all. Their consciousness of guilt couldn’t be more evident. They like to keep their viewers ignorant of the facts. Truly un-American.
Plus there were all sorts of Emails from FUX News people where they were actually TRYING to get Trump to call off the insurrection just like his entire White House Staff and Trump was too busy enjoying watching the show on multiple TVs and congratulating himself to listen to anyone. Not even his favorite daughter.
Too busy jacking off with both hands to do anything constructive or positive.
My right-wing, Piney, anti-vax, trash neighbor must have been wondering why I was screaming “hang the bastards” every few minutes. I was sickened all over again by what I saw and heard. Whan the female cop described seeing her coworker turn white as a sheet of paper before collapsing, I lost it. We came so close to seeing everything we value as American citizens be destroyed that day, and the fault can be squarely dumped on the head of Donald ‘Jackass’ Trump. I hope he pays for what he’s done. He’d better pay for what he’s done.
Besides people believing ANYTHING that pompous ass Trump had to say that day … the biggest mystery to me is WTF do all of these Proud BOYS (not men) believe Trump ever did for them? WHAT? I heard today what I’ve heard before, “After everything he’s done for us …”
JUST WHAT THE FUCK DID TRUMP DO for anyone who wasn’t a rich, white male? What? Maybe they think he singlehandedly stopped the “liberALLS” who were planning to take their guns away. DUMBTARDS! If they say “family values,” like the Succubus did … yeah, right, grabbing women by the pussy models good family values like nothing else.
Name one good thing Trump did for women, people of color, low-income and middle class people. NAME ONE!
@Nanette, I couldn’t phrase it any better than LBJ himself when he said,
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
This is perfect-thank you.
I went to Fox for a listen-
They mocked the report and remarked it was boring and full of lies.
They blamed the lack of National Guards on Pelosi and claimed it was her responsibility to contact them, and she purposely didn’t want them as she wanted the riots to happen to make the republicans look bad.
They also claim that Trump ordered the national guard and Pelosi canceled the order.
I couldn’t stomach any more and turned it off.
Trump didn’t call ANYBODY. Didn’t check on Pence. Pence was busy calling for additional security while Trump was watching the show on multiple TVs all proud of himself. He completely unhinged.
Trump wanted pence scared and to flee in “protection” protocol so that he could have someone else step in who would reject the election. It’s crazy that people want to claim this was a peaceful protest and that the election was rigged.
My concern is all the laws and tactics the GOP is taking to trying to override elections if they don’t like the outcome. This midterm matters so much to vote in people who believe in fair elections and serving the people, not just staying in power
Absolutely agree.
Also the female officer and Liz Cheney both deserve congressional medals of honor IMNSHO.
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I agree 100%!!!!
yes!
YES!
Trump…”hang mike pence he deserves it” W.O.W.
I’m just perplexed as to why Mike Pence hasn’t directly cooperated with Jan. 6th committee. Sorry but when your own boss throws you to the wolves -LITERALLY- it’s game over.
I’m hoping he is cooperating with DOJ.
iv- same!!!! What is that about unless there is behind the scenes stuff going on. I listened to a podcast w Jamie Raskin earlier this week and he wouldn’t answer is Pence cooperated.
Great podcast and I love Raskin
June 3, Inside the Hive by Vanity Fair if anyone is interested!
Thanks for this! I’m listening to it as I type. 🙂
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Thanks for recommendation.
I am not surprised. That is who Mike Pence is. He shapeshifts to whoever he needs to be to fly under the radar avoid the wrath of the authority figure. He would have done as trump asked and overturned the electoral vote if there was any way possible to do so. After asking around, he realized there was nothing he could do. It was not some great act of courage on his part to preserve the republic.
It was nauseating when they said during the hearing that Pence thought he and tfg had accomplished so many great things during his presidency. Unbelievable!
Yes! I remember this being mentioned, that he did make calls to try to see if there was a way to pull off what Trump wanted. I think Woodward wrote about it, that it was Quayle who convinced Pence it couldn’t legally be done. Heard Woodward commenting on it and either he or Bernstein said Pence wasn’t this big hero, he at least appeared to be trying to find a way to not certify. Had noticed that point had kind of faded away, as in media not mentioning it and Pence being lauded as the one with the great courage to go through with the certification.
Pence also gives me a shapeshifting “Man fom Glad”/silver Ken doll vibe of artificiality.
That makes sense to me. If only because he has always looked like a Clay-Mation figure like from the old Christmas shows. He would’ve made a great Vivian in Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Just one of my silly brain-drain thoughts. Carry on. 😵💫
*villian* farking autocorrect…
Maybe he has! I imagine J6C is holding some material/testimony back, in order to to present it in the most impactful fashion. Also, they are still investigating. I do hope that’s the case.
I will watch these hearings just as I came home from High School and watched the Watergate hearings….it is history in the making. I am also watching the John Dean Watergate program on CNN on Sunday nights I think). There was so much more going on there than I remember from the hearings back in the day. I cannot fathom how anyone could watch the insurrection as it was happening –live–and not see with their own eyes what was happening to our Democracy. How anyone can say this was an okay way to “protest” frightens me to my core for what will become of us if ALL the people aren’t held accountable.
This should be MUST WATCH TV for every American who believes in democracy regardless of political affiliation.
FOX was the only network not to air the hearings. That is very telling. What doesn’t FOX want people to see? What is FOX hiding? Maybe the fact that their hosts Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo to name a few, were working in conjunction with Trump to put out misinformation?
Oh let’s not forget Jeanine Pirro snagged a pardon for her ex husband. The pardon, announced less than 45 minutes before Joe Biden was sworn in as president! Quid pro quo?
This 1000%!
Also, in case FUX News isn’t covering it, TFG & his kids are finally ordered to sit for depositions in the business/tax scam shit. I’m sure they’ll all plead the fifth (much like lil Eric did some five hundred times), but they are all having to finally maybe pay the piper. People need to wake the fuck up before our democracy is a thing of the past. If not, it’s only going to happen again. I honestly don’t understand how anyone could have watched 1/6 live and not be appalled and horrified.
Although, I’m in TX, so I don’t have much faith in anything anymore, sadly.
IJC, we all need to keep the faith that justice will be served. This is why I appreciate TT having this open forum.
We likeminded people have seen Trump and his family con people over the years and have gotten only a slap on wrist with fines. This has been discouraging, however I think there is so much evidence against him in trying to overturn the election, especially with that call to Georgia State Officials wanting them to find 11,780 votes, it will land him and others in jail.
I think the DOJ is working overtime behind the scenes and doesn’t want to appear to be coordinating anything with the Jan. 6th committee as to not make it political. Because you know Trump is a two trick pony.
Trick 1) Election was rigged.
Trick 2) It’s a witch-hunt!
Hear hear!
It should be easy. If you would be angry that the other side’s guy did it, the same should hold true for “your” guy. If Biden and his supporters had done what we saw on Jan. 6th, this whole thing would be going entirely different.
If ANYONE of ANY party invited “special” people to storm the WH to “stop the steal” and try to steal our democracy, you can bet yiyr sweet ass it would be covered.
By REAL NEWS MEDIA not fake Fox.
And people would be just as upset by the actions, especially against the officers sworn to protect.
Absolutely!
“Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible,” said committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo. “There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”
And they all said Amen. God Bless Liz for retaining a spine.
Totally agree!
I’m not a fan of Liz Cheney but I respect her for standing up for what is right. At this point, If I absolutely had to vote for a Republican President in 2024, it would be her or Adam Kinzinger (but he is retiring).
Liz Cheney is putting her oath to the constitution ahead of her ego, money and power. Too bad many other Republicans aren’t following her lead and have sold their souls to the devil or in this case Trump which at this point is all in the same.
Liz Cheney realizes that Trump is nit a Republican. And that he is a detriment to this country.
She chose TRUTH over party lines and that is more than many of her fellow Republicans have done.
I can’t believe that Cheney Is standing for the prick who called for him to be killed.
Amen. Wish she would consider running. We need truth, we need people who are going to consider us over the love of power.
Oops. I meant that PENCE is standing by the asshole that called for his hanging. (Intentional use of “that” not “who.”)
Agreed. She must’ve inherited that spine from her mother’s side. Lord knows her father didn’t have one.
I can’t watch it.
But what about the BLMmmmmms???? Goddam, people are stupid. I don’t believe for one second this is an innocent question. And can’t you come up with your own shit? Does everything have to be regurgitated? The most illegitemate investigation everrrrrr. Pathetic. It took them less than 24 hours to change the narrative. I know. I watched Fox the entire time out of sheer curiosity. My partner in life over here stormed out of the room immediately and refused to speak to me during the whole thing. Oh, and i saw people organizing to go to Washington to “stop the steal” on a local FB page for weeks leading up to 1/6. Houses in my neighborhood were covered in signs and banners. That nothing beyond bike barriers was done on the Capitol grounds in inexcusable, really.
I remember the keening, pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth about the peaceful transfer of power when Obama was in office. That, I guess (?), brown people were going to show up when he lost and prevent it. Now, crickets. “They” are still out to get that innocent little babe in the woods, our lord and savior DJT the biggest conman to ever hit NYC.
I also remember all the civil war talk before the election. I remember asking, who’s gonna start that? Surely not the gun hoarders that go grocery shopping in tactical gear! *clutches pearls*
I am in a very bad place. I hope others are doing better. You can’t have a reasonable conversation with a large number of these people. They turn everything around on you, so convinced everything they say is the gospel truth. Act like you’re the one throwing ad hominem attacks. They’ll stand right there and tell you those children being murdered in TX was staged. AGAIN. For what, to take your guns? I dare any one of them to tell me what it takes to amend the Constitution. No peeking! We can’t even get the simplest things done at this point because of all the DC trolls, ghouls. overzealous do-gooders and stonewallers ruining it. It’s the best there is! Work with it!! God help us.
And for all you butt hurt folks out there crying about Tamara pointing out the sheer obviousness of it all, what about myyyy siiiiiide? Maybe you ought to open your eyes. Yes, Virginia, Biden sucks. But this shit happened. Try to concentrate.
Wow. Brava!!!! Agree 100%.
Amen! Some people see what they want to see.
Remember Biden won about 81.2 million votes, the most votes a candidate has won in US history. 7 million+ over Trump.
What we need to continue to do is get out and vote, encourage likeminded people to do the same. No matter what obstacles they throw at us, we need to vote during every election cycle. This includes local, state and federal. They only win if we don’t show up! And that’s what they want and are banking on.
THANK YOU!
I don’t agree with Liz Cheney’s politics, but damn, I admire the hell out of her. She’s a great example of someone who puts country ahead of party.
JD – I agree w you 100% Re Liz
Glad to see you still are here!
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Love her. She has guts and class.
Thank you for covering this❤️
I completely believe Trump incited the insurrection and I’m a Republican. Thinking of changing to Independent though. I don’t believe Republicans or Democrats are all that different from each other. Sure, they are on opposing sides but neither side is innocent.
Right? And people get mad at me, saying I’m both-sidesing it. Um, no. I just refuse to go lockstep with anybody. I sat here and watched somebody I care about vote in the GA primaries that i know FOR A FACT had no idea anybody or anything was going to be on the ballot but our governor and senator. Do you want to see their platforms? No of course you don’t. Just straight R, doesn’t matter. But I’m the foolish one? Ok. I vote on merit. Always have.
Oh and pulling a ballot in a primary for either party is totally legal, totally cool in this state. I truly hate how people just see one thing and it becomes all encompassing TRUTH. It’s not hard to find things out, damn.
Exactly. I do my research before every election. I try really hard to find out how individuals vote and what they believe in. I think if either side had the answers we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in.
One hundred per cent this. This is why I refuse to pick a party. I am a centerist and would love to see a centerist party. Neither one of them get anything meaningful done in our country. They are too busy thinking up names to call one another.
Yes, the name calling, I’m so sick of it. I don’t care who the President is he doesn’t deserve the name calling. I don’t resort to it no matter who is in office or how I feel about that person. It just makes them sound uneducated to call each other names. Apparently neither side has an answer. Anyone who isn’t open minded enough to see good and bad on both sides is a dangerous person.
One Hundred per cent!
Tell us about the good you see in Trump. We’re waiting. We’re all ears.
Waiting…
I don’t have to defend my ability to see two sides of anything to you. Feel better now that you have a response?
That wasn’t a response. That was deflection. Give it up.
Thank you for proving my point. People would rather point fingers and blame than work together. It’s a shame. It’s tearing our country apart but hey better to believe one side.
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You’re still deflecting. No facts from you. You’re a joke.
I must be a joke too because I also research all candidates before voting. I’m fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I WAS a Republican leaning Independent. I voted straight blue in the last election except for Sheriff. There don’t seem to be any Republicans left other than Liz Cheney and a couple of others who are not under the spell of a washed up TV Game Show host Flim Flam man who has somehow decimated the Republican party. Between that and selling their souls to the NRA I’ll be a democrat indefinitely it seems.
I warch both Fox News and PBS regularly for my news. I am neither a Repbulican nor a Democrat bc that is what I choose. HOWEVER, I am greatly disappointed in Fox not airing these hearings. All it says to me is that they are afraid of the truth. That crap show was not made up. It was real. If they had issue with ANY of it then air the clips you had concerns with and let’s see what you got. BOTH Donkeys and Elephants were terrified in that room, as I would have been. The fact that Trump put his “party” members at risk for his own ego tells us all we need to know. Although I am not a fan of Biden in any way I am not sad we are without the poison that was spewed by the former “leader” of our country.
I hope next election we can do better but sadly it isn’t shaping up that way so far.
Every single one of those people should have been arrested and Trump as well for inciting a riot. His language may have been vague but his intent was not. I assume that is why nothing could have happened to him in legal terms? Proud Boys my ass, they should be shamed boys. (thats right, all small letters)
Sadly it will always be party over country. It’s so sad that even a-holes like Cruz (and his wife) who was clowned by Dump stick up for him and the continuous lies he spreads.
I barely even go on Twitter anymore because of the nut jobs peddling the same proven BS lies.
The saddest part about all this, nothing will happen, nothing changed.
Sorry but I’m getting angry about this why can’t we all just accept each other while simultaneously bitching about guns and kids getting shot. Clinton was the last one who banned the assault rifles. And no, I didn’t vote for him. But it’s blatantly obvious to me as a Texas resident that back when we actually got shit done it was by reaching across the aisle on issues that both sides cared about. The right wing fucknuts can’t be seen giving a fucking inch on weapons intended for WAR. I was a lifelong Republican until TFG entered the scene. I’m not on either side but I voted for Biden as a stopgap. I hope he does make an executive order for some sort of gun control. No one needs AK-15s, etc. it’s insanity. No reason there shouldn’t be some sort of background checks and/or training required before putting a deadly weapon in possession of a teenager. Don’t even get me started on Roe. I encourage everyone to watch HBO’s The Janes and Haindmaids Tale. Neither side is accomplishing shit as we collectively go backwards and are circling the drain. Most of us aren’t the libtards or the power hungry right. But it’s definitely the trumpers who are the batshit ones of the bunch. Get a clue-Greg Abbott is a perfect example of ruining his home state for POLITICAL POWER AND TRUMP SYCHOPHANTS. Most of the big cities here are blue and due to the gerrymandering our votes don’t even count anymore. It’s pretty fucking depressing and only got worse during the pandemic and mask/covid wars. I had hoped that Darwin’s theory would have taken care of it but hadn’t counted on the CDC fucking up too and TFG tossing the pandemic playbook. I doubt we’ll recover in my lifetime. You can’t argue with crazy or stupid nor can you reason with either. And spare me the repetitive circular rhetoric arguments because I’ve heard them all-verbatim. FFS, if you drank the koolaide you’re ultimately fucked too.
Don’t give up on Darwin YET!
The only one without an agenda AND the only one with time on his side. It’s far from over.
Thank you for your perspective. It’s refreshing!
I’m wondering if Merrick Garland has been waiting for the 1/6 Committee hearings to lay the groundwork by giving the American public all the major arguments showing Trump’s involvement so that Garland can then bring criminal charges against Trump. Maybe that’s the reason it’s taking the DOJ such a long time to hold him accountable. What do you think?
I am beginning to think they are all in it together. Had they really wanted to impeach Trump the house should have created charges for what Trump failed to do after the attack. That could be proven and much harder for talk radio to dismiss.
I expected different things from Biden. I expected competence. They should have been ready with something about abortion because they knew it was coming. They should have been ready with alot of things. I am tired of rich old men being president-either party
Amen!
The entire transcript of the Jan. 6 insurrection hearings is available on NPR.
I think we are not supposed to paste urls on here, but go to NOR website and look for:
jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
Thank you!
For what it’s worth a maybe not a lot I don’t think Trump will stand again. He’ll milk every penny out of his supporters and then make his excuses.
Honestly, I don’t see how in the world he could run again and win. He needs to give it up.
I think Trump is a one and done.
So, I voted for Biden, I hate Trump and I watched this, BUT where is the proof that the Insurrection was planned by Trump? Yes, he egged the crowd on, yes he immediately should have condemned and called them off when they stormed the capitol, yes to all of the things he didn’t/should have done when the crowd did what they did BUT, I thought they were going to show that Trump planned it. This made it look like the crowd did it on their own. Did I miss something or is that information/specifics going to be released later?
Even if he didn’t directly plan it, I think his people fanned the flames among his power base on social media. The constant claims that the election was stolen and January 6th represented a chance to interrupt the process. His delay was calculated to allow as much mayhem as possible to that place. And still, people think he has done nothing. Trump is the Teflon President. We need to hold him responsible at some point. Biden certainly has his issues, I think is too old at this point to operate at peak efficiency. But I don’t think we as a nation can stand anymore of Trump and those with their heads so far up his butt they can’t see.
Why would anyone think the red hats planned everything on their own? They are not the brightest bulbs on the Christmas Tree.
Then-President Donald Trump pressured the Secret Service for two weeks to come up with a plan for him to join his supporters on a march toward the Capitol on January 6, 2021, the Washington Post reported Tuesday, days before a House committee is set to unveil findings from a months-long investigation into the Capitol riot.
A spokeswoman for the deputy mayor of Washington, D.C., who oversees the police department told the Post the Secret Service asked police to assist with a presidential motorcade on the day of the insurrection, but “the response was no.”
After Trump told a crowd of supporters, “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol,” Secret Service agents reached out to D.C. police about securing intersections for a presidential motorcade, witnesses told the House January 6 committee, according to the Post.
Police rebuffed the request as they were preoccupied with monitoring Capitol protests, while a senior law enforcement official told the Post the head of the president’s detail intervened to cancel any such plans because of the safety risk.
Secret Service Chief of Communications Anthony Guglielmi confirmed to Forbes that White House staff made proposals to bring the president down to the Capitol on January 6, but the Secret Service communicated such a plan was not feasible and “never produced any operational plan” for Trump to do so.
Transportation agents made “preliminary phone calls” to D.C. police on January 6 in case Trump insisted on joining protesters, Guglielmi said, adding the Secret Service has made every employee available to the January 6 committee and remains “cooperative and supportive of their work.”
“I wanted to go,” Trump told the Post in April in a wide-ranging interview in which he shared regrets about not joining his supporters at the march on January 6. “I wanted to go so badly. Secret Service says you can’t go. I would have gone there in a minute.”
Trump aides first told Tony Ornato, a Secret Service official, in December 2020 that Trump wanted to ride in a motorcade next to protesters marching to the Capitol on January 6, the Post reported, citing witnesses and a senior law enforcement official. Secret Service officials were doubtful they could safely move Trump to the Capitol and Trump’s detail leader ultimately nixed the plan.
But agents were confused when Trump announced on January 6 he would “walk down Pennsylvania Avenue” and go to the Capitol with his supporters, and scrambled to make calls to see if they could secure a route, according to the Post. Trump has continued to deny his role in the Capitol attack, including in an April interview with the Post in which he shifted blame to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) and the mayor of D.C. who he claimed were “in charge” of the building.
He also said he had no regrets about calling on his supporters to come to the capital in a tweet saying it would “be wild.”
I’m watching from Canada – but did live in USA for some of my formative years, the Republicans then were real Republicans.
Blaming the recession on Biden is bonkers – it was a GLOBAL pandemic and we are now going into a GLOBAL recession – the UK Is in recession, the EU is in recession, Canada is in recession, other countries and regions are sliding into recession – it’s GLOBAL.
Holy shit. After reading some of these comments I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Many are just more of the same verbatim arguments I’ve heard millions of times but some are so incredibly dim it makes me lose all hope. The idiot factor is on full display. I have to assume some must be dealing with cognitive decline or are so privileged/entitled they lack any objectivity, either way it’s frightening. What happened to independent and critical thinking? JFC WE ARE SO FUCKED.
Hey IFC!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hi Melcle, my sidebar buddy! So glad you’re still here and commenting! 😊
Ps- Emily d baker was giving props to your guy @jdcase and she did a line by line rant about Dr speigels article in Newsweek-it was hilarious! (Aka dr doofenshmertz) I admit I needed a fix for trial withdrawals lol, but it was super funny! I pity any med students/residents who are assigned to him as their attending! If you haven’t read the Newsweek article, it’s literally a stream of consciousness reprinted by Newsweek and it’s worth checking out (even better to read it along with Emily d Baker for the laughs- it’s on her most recent Friday Night Live stream and time stamped so u don’t have to watch the whole thing)Sorry for this off topic part but I had to share! 😂
IJC!
Omg thank you for this!!! Will definitely check out!!
I can’t imagine he’s taken seriously as a doctor! Literally cray!!!!
I just put update on verdict day 2 thread. Omg I hate AH lol
Thank you! Got it!
Absolutely need to have an age limit on the presidency. What’s wrong with 62? Trump WAS the oldest at inauguration, but now there is Biden. No one in their seventies and beyond should have control of the highest office of the USA. Limits should extend to Congress as well. What were our Founding Fathers thinking?
I tend to agree with you there. My age has a five in front of it and I should not be ruling the country either. I think we should set it at 50 or 55 unless you are an incumbent.
At the time of America’s founding, in 1776, the average life expectancy was 35 years of age. They never dreamed of a president, or anybody else, reaching the advanced ages we see now in our government.
Personally I support an age cap of maybe 60. I am praying for a Kamala Harris, Pete Buttiegeg term. I love Pete and voted for him in the primary.
Who or what is TFG ? I keep seeing it and am confused, guess I missed the explanation. Thanks
You and me both. Based on context, I am guessing Trump. But I have no idea what it stands for.
The Former Guy. (As Biden himself referred to him as this in one of his first speeches as POTUS and it stuck, lol)
Thank you IJC.
That former guy meaning Trum
Oh I answered above before seeing yours. Great minds and all-haha!
And now this article from Vanity Fair…
Titled:
“Trump’s Truth Social Is Allegedly Banning People for Talking About the January 6 Hearings Because Of Course It Is”
I am very glued to American politics and as a Canadian, sometimes have to do a ton of research to understand the constitution.
Today’s hearing was difficult to watch due to how close people were to being targeted because they followed the law.
The retired Justice that testified today was especially moving. He is a staunch republican and stood by the country.
Not to drag this out, but there is more evidence coming out about SUPREME COURT JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS’S WIFE have way more involvement than we thought.
He really needs to resign or be removed.
One of my journalist friends who is very acclaimed Tweeted after this news that his wife does not contribute to campaign or attend events because he is a journalist. It seems like Thomas’s wife went to Trump rallies, the capitol and donated.
View in browser | nytimes.com
The New York Times
BREAKING NEWS
John Eastman, who advised Donald Trump on overturning the election, sought a pardon after the Capitol riot, the Jan. 6 panel said.
Thursday, June 16, 2022 3:43 PM ET
Mr. Eastman emailed Rudy Giuliani to ask that he be “on the pardon list, if that is still in the works.” according to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
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The New York Times
BREAKING NEWS
A lawyer advising Donald Trump on his plan to overturn the election acknowledged to him that it was illegal, an aide to Mike Pence testified to the Jan. 6 panel.
Thursday, June 16, 2022 2:31 PM ET
Another witness, a retired federal judge, said obstructing the certification of the 2020 election would have been “tantamount to a revolution.”
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The New York Times
BREAKING NEWS
Day 3 of the Jan. 6 hearings is beginning. The committee plans to release details about the pressure campaign Donald Trump waged against Mike Pence.
Thursday, June 16, 2022 1:12 PM ET
Before the hearing, the panel’s chairman said lawmakers were likely to reach out to Ginni Thomas, the wife of Justice Clarence Thomas, after obtaining an email between her and John Eastman, a Trump lawyer.
I DIDN”T KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER HEARING TODAY. WHAT IF ANYTHING (lol) Was done with Ginni Thomas?