If you have been following the comments here on the Depp v. Heard trial, you know that there is a lot of arguing going on. I started out Team Johnny after I listened to the plaintiff’s claims in chief. On Amber’s first day I didn’t find her particularly believable. But, on her second day of testimony I changed my mind.
Today Melcle sent me a 2020 Youtube with records from the day after the fiasco in Australia. It’s quiet interesting. You can check it out here. Apparently, Amber is the one who was doing the recording. It is quite interesting to me. I would still find against Johnny winning his defamation suit, and while we haven’t gotten to Amber’s countersuit yet, I’d find against her two. This seems like a very abusive relationship where both sides have been physically abusive. So neither party has been defamed in my open.
Check out this Youtube. It’s worth your time. It’s a recording of what was happening in the aftermath of the finger incident.
And yes, I am obsessed with this trial. It’s just so bizarre. Also, I really want to use this photo.
I have to add in one more. Sorry Blame Mercle. She started me on the drugs!!! Now I am addicted.
Very interesting stuff. Thank you for posting.. They were both abusive in my opinion and trauma bonded. Very sad but neither should win their case. I do see very classic signs in Depp with the abuse/ love bombing. What is crazy to me is that a lot of those supporting Depp have blinders on to his abuse and only see what she did.. Very sad and toxic relationship. I hope they both can eventually have some healing.
But there is no proof he was abusive back so I’m not sure why you’re deciding that. Every recording shows he tried to get away from her and that infuriated her. She was the abuser.
Interesting, I see classic signs of an abuse victim. Multiple witnesses have testified that he repeatedly called to extract him from escalating situations. She attacked his masculinity for not fighting back and called him weak for not standing his ground/ retreating/ locking himself in a safe space. Both have drug and alcohol issues combined with trauma in childhood but I only see one aggressor.
I have been in a toxic/relationship and saw it as “ passionate “ and have seen others in toxic relationships. I get it.
I also saw my younger brother involved with a beautiful psycho abusive cunt. She would just start in slapping, hitting, scratching . I did not see the physical attacks but my cousin called and said he needs help or something bad is going to happen. I am proud that it was my cousin and female friends that stood up and said “ this is not okay, she is dangerous… Get OUT””
. It took some time, hysterical phone calls from her … dog is sick, my mother’s boyfriend is being awful, I love you, I want to die, I will kill myself.
PS: I drove from Athens GA to Tallahassee after my cousin called and I am convinced that bitch thought it was mutually abusive. He did restrain her and said some awful things ( nothing compared to what I said to her ) She was very public about going after him but if it had been behind closed doors , scary the accusations she could have made.
Added another video. It is two minutes and things get crazy. Crazier.
Amber:
“All I was poppin was Xanax, Adderall, Ecstasy and hallucinogens”
Um, that’s quite a mixture there!
sounds like one of hunter s. thompson’s drug cocktails updated. and depp did do “fear and loathing in las vegas” which makes me think heard is adlibbing.
Holy moly, that was intense. Is this the recording she said Johnny recorded on her phone without her knowledge?
Nah this was her privately recording him until he figured it out.
TT! Yay I wasn’t sure if this was against the rules! I do not believe he will win defamation bc of several legal issues but I do believe he will get his name restored in Hollywood. I do believe they are both dysfunctional people. I believe she was physical and I believe he went dark and threw things and got verbally abusive on yet not physical (not that any of this is ok bc it’s not)…. Anyhow, these YouTube videos are extremely telling IMO!
The second video is the day after his mother day and he had found out he has big financial issues. This is my issue – I don’t want anyone recording me on of my worst days. He was bothering her and IMO she was setting him up. The one they showed at the trial, showed her smiling as she picked up her phone when he threw it. I’m sorry, pure evil! Once again, I wasn’t a Johnny Depp fan – liked him ok but just set something was off about her.
Clarification. – Mother died!!!
I loathe this woman. She set him up from the beginning. She pushed and pushed until she got the reaction she wanted and then filmed the aftermath. She’s making a mockery of women and men who have actually gone through abuse. Her testimony is laughable.
Right?!!! I feel exactly the same! I’m not sure why but each YouTube video I go through from the account above makes my mouth gape open!! Her parents telling him how much they love and miss him (after her allegations) and they would hope he would get back with her. Telling him her lawyers made her file restraining order bc he wouldn’t let her friends stay at penthouse anymore (which came from his team and not him)…. It’s just insane!
I have been following this and it almost feels voyeuristic. While I believe they are both guilty of abhorrent behavior, I feel like Amber is just saying stuff to see what sticks. I am not being mean when I say this but they are both unhinged. I genuinely feel bad for the both of them. I’m not sure if either party deserves money for this.
She did violate the terms of their divorce settlement and that was neither party speaking negatively about each other in public. She can’t claim that the article wasn’t about Johnny as she is on the stand describing things from their relationship from that article.
There is an old video of her during the Rum Diaries tour where she says she knows who Johnny Depp is and of course is a huge fan and how iconic he is. However, a day or two ago, she had no idea who Johnny was, she had heard of him but was not aware of who he was. Did she perjure herself?
I am not saying that abuse didn’t take place but it seems like they both abused one another. What has me feeling suspect about her is that fact that she was recording him from essentially the start of the relationship. One can’t help think that this is a relationship of opportunity, marry a famous actor, hope that your star rises by association, if things should go tits up then make sure you have insurance (video, photo,etc.) for proof for a nice settlement. Two broken people who had no business being in a relationship.
I can see Johnny winning but not getting the amount he wants. I hope they both clean up their act.
She ain’t got no money, send her broke a** home. He won’t get the money, but he will get his name cleared. Does he have substance abuse issues? I think the answer is pretty clear. Did he beat this person though? Nothing I’ve come across supports that.
She said several things that were perjury worthy! I agree with TT both are horribly abusive both mentally and physically, toxic and trauma bonded. No one should win. They should both be court ordered to get therapy.. individually and move on.
That’s an awesome recommendation loo loo. They need help in sorting out their various demons and it seems clear neither will do it on their own.
It seems like AH took some of her testimony from movie lines. At least she was smart enough to change the words around a little. She seems to be acting to me — not sincere at all, IMO.
“The thing with Dickie… it’s like the sun shines on you, and it’s glorious. And then he forgets you and it’s very, very cold … When you have his attention, you feel like you’re the only person in the world, that’s why everybody loves him so much.” _The Talented Mr. Ripley
“When I was around Johnny, I felt like the most beautiful person in the whole world – you know, [he] made me feel seen, made me feel like a million dollars.” _ AH
I added YET ANOTHER YOUTUBE. This one is about an hour long and was one of the recordings that they were doing after conflict at the request of their therapist I believe. Or maybe it was their idea. All of these recordings are very BAD for Amber who seems to admit she can’t help but get violent, and Johnny is the voice of sanity.
The one thing about this case is that you rarely get a balanced unbiased comment about it, Some of the comments being made on social media and in reply to newspaper articles are really disturbing and show the power and influence of celebrity culture, I will wait until the end of this shoddy affair until all evidence has been put forward and then make mine. I hope that the jury are less prejudice and less swayed by the madness surrounding this mess,
The videos I am adding to this post are recordings of Johnny and Amber talking to each other. Or talking to security after a huge fight. It doesn’t get any less biased than that. I am shocked they they probably won’t be allowed in the actual trial.
Sorry for sending you down this rabbit hole but these are just unbelievable right?!! Ok so my question is, why can they not be used in court? Are there legal reasons? Would love to understand!
It would depend on the state? If you are the reason Tamara is covering this I am ALL IN!!
I can watch at my desk at work without taking away from what I’m doing. If it’s anything important it will get replayed! I feel he is winning in the court of public opinion, and I do hope they can both go recover and Depp can regain his career.
I’m not sure I’m reason but so happy she’s covering it bc I find it equally fascinating and now have a place to discuss this!!!
I feel the same and hope he gets his career back.
This is Ambers greatest performance and she is hoping she gets 100 milllion for it. All the lawyer prepping for her time on the stand cant change the fact that she has severe mental issues and does not take her anti psychotic pills.
Depp testified that in Australia he had been completely sober but then Amber met with her attorney who told her Depp would never agree to the postnup terms and Amber flipped so he called his people and then he got upset and slammed down TWO drinks. He lied big time about that. The Australia tape has Amber and the doctor commenting on how Depp had been drinking bottles and bottles of alcohol and she points out the bags that used to contain coke. Also, she testified that the nurse tried to give her something to calm her down during the Australia incident but she took a smaller dose that the nurse wanted her too. The tape no way proves Amber had no injuries. The doctor, who clearly hates her, notes she has scratches on her arms but says he thinks they are self inflicted.
Good points
Not sure how you got that from the recording where Amber admits to hurting Johnny and that she didn’t mean to. Imagine yourself living with someone who, from the start of the relationship has been taunting you, demeaning you, using your children to hurt you and trying to destroy your self worth – I think we’d all feel like we were going insane. He tried his best to calm the situation(s), to extricate himself so it wouldn’t get physical. He even said as much in a few tapes. She’s a sick girl who also has alcohol and drug issues which she NEVER admits to but her friends out her on that. Yet all the attention was on JD’s issues which was weird. Its also know that she is on anti-psychotic meds which he suggests that she take in one tape. She was freaking out and they wanted to calm her down and that’s why they suggested the higher dose to get the situation under control. She had no injuries or they would have talked about that on the tape, given her medical attention which they did not need to or gotten her to hospital asap.
I only found 2 videos posted here, the fat old man and the one with him slamming the cabinet doors. Was there supposed to be a 3rd?
Look up “Incredibly Average” on YouTube and all of the videos are there
LOL at the JA scetch and the flip flopping. I was up all night (again) still catching up on demand CourtTV and I’ve flipped back & forth multiple times. I did watch the video and omg seroquel, Xanax, adderal, ecstasy , hallucinogens, and alcohol? My God. Seroquel is an antipsychotic! Plenty of drs prescribed it off label for sleep until the manufacturer got sued, but it’s originally for like schizophrenia and such & I can’t imagine mixing it with all the other. Just wow.
I’m now of the opinion that they are both abusive addicts, and both have serious mental health issues. A gross display of wealth and entitlement to waste time and tax payers money, much less to televise it-reeks of narcissistic tendencies for both. All that said, I think the jury will not reward either of them. And I’ll probably change my mind fifty more times lol.
The secret recordings whether audio or video are creepy though. Who does that? IDGI. But I’m thinking maybe the attys either haven’t seen this or else couldn’t authenticate it, because why else would it not be in evidence? Things that make you go hmmm.
FWIW they prescribed me Seroquel when released from rehab. It made me sleep at night but were extremely strong.
FWIW, it’s a pretty safe drug. The reason they got sued was because the drug reps were marketing it for off label indications. Legally they can only market for FDA approved indications, which at the time IIRC, were schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. It’s not illegal for physicians to use stuff off label and happens all the time. Idk if more indications have been approved by now (not up to date on stuff). But it’s safe for sleep so you’re obviously fine. It’s the mixing of all that stuff that scares me. Alcohol alone with any is bad! Plus coke!
Happy Mother’s Day!
I stopped taking it years ago, but thanks! And Happy Mother’s Day to you too!!
Who does that? A woman who has a plan from the beginning to take him for all he’s worth and become some sort of spokesperson for domestic abuse, that’s who.
These videos/recordings that I’ve seen and heard are clear that she was setting him up.(from the beginning) Her finest performance has been in court I never cared for either of them but I hope Depp comes out on top. He was used. She agitated him on purpose in order to tape him. She probably encouraged his drug use BEFORE recording him.
I have been watching this also. There are good “law tube” channels on YT that cover this. I can say which ones later if TT says it is ok. Yes, I agree there was abuse on both sides but I don’t believe JD ever got physical with her. His testimony was genuine and the same story he has told. Her story keeps getting bigger and more dramatic and to me I don’t find her credible at all. She is coming off the way JD’s expert Dr. Curry described her. I think there are kernels of truth in her testimony but there are a lot of lies, exaggerations and omissions. Also, JD took responsibility for his actions she does not. She’s so against drugs like coke but the nurse’s notes said she took it. Testimony of her drinking two to three bottles of $500 wine a day. The excessive language she uses of the attacks especially Australia there should be more evidence of massive bruising and swelling that no amount of “amica” cream and makeup could hide.
So, with the audio tapes. Some were illegally recorded because CA where most of them were recorded is a 2 party consent state. Both parties have agreed portions of the tapes can be used since they are opposing parties, but only the parts where it is only their voices. Otherwise, it is hearsay and also those other parties have to give permission to have the tapes played since they didn’t know they were being recorded. And one of those parties is JD’s head of security Jerry Judge who is deceased. Also, notice AH refers only to Jerry Judge by name of JD’s security and he’s the only one who ever asks if she’s ok etc. and that’s because he’s the only one who isn’t around to refute her.
I absolutely believe it is possible for the jury to say you both suck no defamation anywhere go away. However, AH is going all out to get all the salacious bits she can out there about JD and it could backfire on her with her credibility to the jury.
That’s it Exactly!! He took responsibility. The first step requires humility, a quality I find sadly lacking especially with big stars. I really liked Depp’s testimony. I find him fascinating.
At THIS point, I would give her 0 and him $1, to let him know I didn’t totally believe her.
Tamara! I’m so here for your post abt this trial!! Soooooo GOOOODDDD
Yay, I can access your site now 👏
Tamara…………I cannot thank you enough for all of this information you put out here for us. I for one appreciate the hell out of you.
Addiction, mental illness, too much money, enablers and handlers. I fear this will not end well for either of them in the long run. Sorry to state the obvious
If we are taking the “you don’t have to hit” viewpoint of “domestic violence,” it’s clear they abused each other.
If it’s physical abuse, I think she lies. His story stays the same. Hers changes. Interrogation 101. Truth stays the same. Lies change.
Why would Depp open this can of worms unless he thought he could win? Either because … truth … or his money/power. Whatever … it’s a shitshow and he must have known it would be. So WTF?
Enter the “Robert Downey Jr. Redemption” plan.
“Depp was on drugs when he was saying and doing weird shit. He’s gone through rehab and is back to being ‘Good Johnny.’ “ Let the redemption begin. America loves a good redemption story.
Heard won’t get one, though.
Haven’t seen any evidence of Johnny hitting her. Maybe hit cabinets in that video where she is trying to provoke him.
Don’t think this was mutual at all.
I don’t know if any folks here were following the story from the beginning, around 2016, but I was and couldn’t believe the trajectory of coverage and public discourse about it. It was insane how it went from fairly even-handed coverage of abuse allegations against Depp, to an absolute avalanche of disinformation against Amber Heard — and suddenly a virtual army on social media was coming for her.
It turned out that was no accident. Depp’s lawyer (Adam Waldman) was literally an expert in Russian disinformation tactics, and he was doing the same thing here — cutting up tapes and texts to make her look as bad as possible, and creating thousands of phony Twitter accounts that literally existed to promote the “Justice for Johnny” hashtag.
It has nothing to do with me, and my life won’t change no matter the outcome. But there are days that I literally can’t stand it. And one of the biggest myths is “they’re both as toxic as each other.” NO. That’s not how it works. But because we can only champion abuse victims if they had a squeaky-clean past and handled all of the abuse like a saint, we can’t seem to see that her experience is almost a textbook example of how women let their abuser isolate and compromise them as the months and years go by.
FFS. Of course you have to bring Russia up. God people like you are the worst.
It’s people like you who already have a preconceived opinion.
Your problem is: Amber was already arrested in 2009 for abusing her girlfriend and called the cop a homophobe and that cop spoke out and is a lesbian.
Amber Hearc is on tape on national tv saying the settlement money was already donated to Chikdfens Hospital. (Thanks exposingAmberHeard on Instagram!)
Tamara,
I’m sorry, but Amber has a history of always fighting with men and women. It’s not mutual abuses IMO. If someone treated the the way Amber treats people I would have lost it years ago.
Hey, Renee? I didn’t insult anyone here for believing Depp wholeheartedly. I’m not “the worst,” and I’m not going to let the volatility of this whole case make me start lashing out at other people in a similar fashion.
I didn’t have a preconceived opinion on this, other than that Johnny Depp was a shy sweetheart based on roles like Edward Scissorhands and Benny & Joon. And even though it looks to me like the US case will go the way of the UK one for Depp, I’m not going to be elated if I’m right, or crushed if I’m wrong.
Wow — so you’re trying to mix partisan politics with domestic abuse, seriously!!! Why do so many people have to make everything about partisan politics? Sounds like you’re listening to all the wrong sources for one thing. The tapes were NOT altered. Ms. Heard starting taping their conversation and arguments since the beginning of their relationship. Why would anyone do such a thing unless they planed to use it against someone when it benefited them? She is hurt baiting him, trying to get him to fight while he tries to de-escalate and leave a situation that is getting out of control. She demeans him, belittles his looks, age, music, acting and career and uses his children as a knife to hurt him. She also has happens to have, according to her friends and witnesses an alcohol problem, i.e.: she loves the expensive wine (a few bottles a day), she loves her shrooms and MDMA as well. She is not an innocent, she is the aggressor in everything single audio out there. In Australia she admitted to being stoned on Xanax, Adderall, Ecstasy and some hallucinogenic that was not identified.
IF he was so abusive, even after the TRO, why would both her mother and father tell him they love him and call him son. Why would they beg him to reconcile if they thought this man was physically or emotionally abusing their daughter.
Women can be abusers and this instance its clear that Ms. Heard was indeed the aggressor and abuser in that relationship. Just because he called her names when he’d had enough means squat in the grand scheme of things.
I had to take a break from this. I’m still unsure. I never want to victim blame. But more than one thing doesn’t add up with her. And if I don’t believe part of it then I’m supposed to nullify her testimony in full, right? I wonder which side benefits from a weeklong break. I get that he has an uphill battle being the plaintiff. But the fact that she’s counter suing for double $ on the defamation and no police report for abuse is sus to me. Yea I know, underreported but they are in court and I’d be asking if there’s a criminal charge somewhere before handing out $100mil. She’s making a lot of pretty horrific accusations, embellishing stuff imo and I can’t help but think this is somehow a money grab. Abuse by definition requires one party to exert power over the other and from where I’m sitting (not completely caught up yet), neither one is a shrinking violet.
Ask me again in another few hours, because I keep waffling, lol. I can totally see the jury saying fuck both of them for making me sit through this shitshow-neither of you get squat.
TMZ is claiming the Amber Heard hate is out of control and all of the allegations are false.
https://www.tmz.com/2022/05/07/amber-heard-testimony-viral-fake-news-pose-talented-mr-ripley-cocaine/
Thoughts?
The two allegations above are false IMO but definitely not ALL allegations. She clearly wasn’t taking a bump of coke on the stand but it really did appear as though she was posing. The Talented Mr Ripley ripoff is also false.
I’m really under the weather today and trying to catch up on DOOL. Oddly, Wednesday’s episode was of COURT TV and Amber’s testimony even though it was taping NBC! Weird.
Ok here we go! Starting back up today! It was starting at 10 eastern but I think it’s 9 today?? Argh! I was scurrying around getting all of my stuff done so I could sit and watch and now it’s an hour earlier?? I hope I’m wrong! How dare they! 🤪
Interesting article inRolling Stone about Elon Musk’s influence
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/amber-heard-elon-musk-aclu-donation-1352306/