Emily D. Baker was part of Up and Adam and Zach Peter’s recent tour. She is an attorney with a podcast where she discusses trials of famous people. I love her, HOWEVER, her podcasts are hours and hours long. And that is just too much for me.
Luckily we got some good tea on this 28 minute Youtube. If that is too much for you, you can move to about the 9 minute mark and get it all in less than twenty minutes. Find out who she thinks has a long and expensive road ahead of her and who is definitely fucked already and heading to prison.
I enjoyed the Youtube and am not a bit late getting ready for Top Chef. Off to recap. I’m in slow mo today to some sort of weird depression that makes me slothlike. But, I’m on it! Let me know what you think of this Youtube.
Up and Adam also has a short recap of today’s Depp v. Heard stuff.
If you missed it in comments, I have changed my mind and I do not believe Amber is making this up. She was clearly abused. And that is all she has to prove in order for Johnny to lose his defamation case. And, I guess that would also cause me to find in her favor for her defamation case.
Cue the differing opinions.
Sadly, different opinion here. I lived my nightmare with an abusive husband for too many years. I don’t believe a word she says. Not because I’m a blind Johnny fan, but, her mannerisms. 🤷
I agree with you. I finally watched her testimony for the first time. She is not being honest and her tears aren’t real.
I find it so strange that she took pictures of Depp before they even started living together trying to prove his addiction? Why carry on with the relationship that hasn’t even started with a man that you think is so out of control that you’re taking pictures of him passed out?
The body language expert is on point on Tik Tok.
No offense but that’s kinda bullshit. You’re judging her guilt or innocense based on “her mannerisms” and your bench mark for this judgment is based soley on how YOU reacted to your abuser. She didn’t respond to her abuser like you did, therefore she’s a liar?? Wow, I can’t believe people.
Yes, she’s a liar. “I looked into his eyes trying to see the man that I loved”. Who says that? She’s reading lines from a movie of the week.
Mannerism? Seriously? Next thing you know, the witch trials bare back.
I stand by my original opinion that both are idiots and make terrible life decisions. Their relationship was garbage, with both acting cruel and unstable. They’re worthy of one another and they both should be ashamed of how ridiculous they look to the world. I feel sorry for neither. Rich, pretty white people that love any attention they can get.
What does their race have to do with the situation?
Everything.
Nobody would have such fascination if these two parties were not white celebrities. Sympathy would not be given. Any patience for this puppet theatre of a court case would dissipate really quickly. America loves white people and a crazy love story.
America would be just as obsessed if it were jay z and Beyoncé. I think the reason this is so fascinating is because it’s JOHNNY DEPP. Mega movie star. Fucking loaded.
I agree with you. I don’t think race has anything to do with it. It’s due to Johnny Depp being a well known celebrity. Look at how fascinated people were by Will Smith vs Chris Rock. And there was sympathy for Chris Rock.
Agree! There are no winners. Both were mentally and physically abusive. Depp, has a long history of alcohol and drug use and surrounds himself with enablers. Addicts’ retention of events and actions (memory) are poor. Drugs and alcohol are the catalyst for bad decisions! Depp could write a similar article about spousal abuse because Heard is not innocent.
Long history of drug abuse and alcohol. Yes.
History of physically abusing people? No. All of her photos are him passed out.
Depp isn’t doing this for attention. He is doing this to clear his name
Speaking of stupid people…I can’t even spell my username correctly.
Love it. Gingerella is it? Too funny.
Did anyone see Farrah Fawcett in “The Burning Bed”? She gave a very believable PORTRAYAL of an abused woman. Much better actress that Heard.
A good liar stays close to the truth:
I do believe there is truth in the VERBAL abuse. From both parties.
A good liar does not offer too many details. Lots of fluff, little meat.
There are two times when a person should not have their words/actions held against them: during detox and during labor.
If Cindy were to film me doing my best “abused woman” performance … I can turn on the waterworks. Heard can’t seem to do that.
One of the analysts pointed out yesterday: Heard has testified how kind and generous and welcoming Depp was to her friends — abusers do the opposite. They isolate you from everyone. The only friends that are separated from Heard are the ones SHE drove away.
No offense but that’s kinda bullshit. You’re judging her guilt or innocense based on “her mannerisms” and your bench mark for this judgment is based soley on how YOU reacted to your abuser. She didn’t respond to her abuser like you did, therefore she’s a liar?? Wow, I can’t believe people.
The thing is there is actual proof that Johnny was abusive. All of this “she started it” or “she was violent too” has nothing to do with the case. Johnny is suing for defamation. A very high bar to leap. He has the burden of proof to show that he wasn’t abusive. All he has done now is remind us that he is. It’s HIS case to prove and he has not done it.
I did not say anywhere that I was abused. I am pointing out that Heard is an ACTRESS (as is Depp). But she isn’t a very good one. Farrah Fawcett gave a great performance as an abused women.
The other points are not mine, they are basic methods used in interrogations to determine veracity.
So, maybe you had better not believe your own self because your reading comprehension is lacking.
They both have serious issues however it is very clear to me that she is telling the truth. A lot of her testimony rings true for me based on my personal experience and also my clinical experiencefor 32 yrs as a Psychiatric RN. I used to call it Jekyll and Hyde He was a completely different person when drunk and then love bombing. I will not retraumatize anyone with the details..
In my career,, I worked mainly for over 20 yrs with patients who had severe PTSD from sexual, emotional, spiritual trauma. Depp talks about ” the monster ” in him (his own texts) and how he thought he had tamed it before he met her. Jennifer Grey says he was paranoid and extremely jealous and she describes emotional abuse. He was very young when the dated. Ellen Barkin said he was explosive and threw a wine bottle at hr head but she later downplayed. She hasn’t worked in a major role since. There was talk years ago of him abusing Wynonna Rider and she was afraid to talk about it but it was witnessed. As he got older he got more physical and his drug use escalated tremendously.
Thank you Sharon, I was team Johnny going in, but after today, she dropped so many receipts and I can’t believe that she could make up such a long history of abuse. Even if ONE of the stories is true, he loses his case. She clearly was the victim of abuse. Did she go on a rage and destroy her own paintings and paint weird shit on mirrors or was that the cokehead who was also drinking? Which seems more logical?
Was there mutual combat? Absolutely. But if he hit her even one time she is more than able to write about her abuse in an Op Ed where she didn’t even name him. This is a defamation suit and IMHO Johnny Depp was NOT defamed.
Well said Tamara. I think Depp has a great PR team flooding the internet as well. It is very sad. I also think he was looking for a young woman to mold and probably picked her because she had daddy issues.
I can’t believe I’m reading posts that actually believe Heard. She taunted him, filmed him during his darkest times, mocked him, withheld his medication while going through detox and he’s not allowed to get angry? We’ve all done and said things under duress that we normally wouldn’t do. It doesn’t make us abusers. It makes us human. He’s no saint but he didn’t abuse this woman.
Emily D Baker also has Emily D Baker Quick Bits on You Tube.
Ok I also love Emily but her videos tend to be long winded and sometimes I put them on because her voice is very soothing and I fall asleep to them. I have wished in the past she would get to her point sooner sometimes and then I feel really bad for thinking that since it’s clear she likes to talk and that’s her personality. Will have to look for the short videos on YouTube, Thank you to whomever mentioned it above.
I can see how people don’t want to believe Amber and the rumors that she’s using parts of movie scrips and simply repeating them may be true. I was listening to her today and yesterday and expecting to hate her and not believe her. Ironically it was triggering memories of my own abuse and I could relate to her explanations of shame, confusion, wondering why no one was helping her?!, staying still or frozen, then at times lashing out. Maybe she’s a really great actress but I found her believable. I think they both triggered each other and there was mutual abuse, but thanks Tamara, for saying you kind of believe her. It doesn’t seem to be the popular opinion on social media.
I’d like to hear more expert opinions on here about depp v. heard. Before her testimony I thought she made it up but now.. I can’t imagine someone making all of that up! This is just crazy.
No one could be making all of that up and there were so many photos that confirmed her stories. Do I think she is a also a bit violent? Sure. But that is not the point of this case. And I too related to her feelings about being with an abusive man (men). And they do love bomb you and then beat you. I totally believe he raped her with a wine bottle, painted weird shit everywhere, destroyed her paintings, scared his children, bruised her face. I believe it all. And I also feel like there were other witnesses that can verified everything she said.
Again, this is not a criminal trial. It’s about defamation. And if you believe any ONE of those things Johnny loses his case. I’m interested to hear the details of HER defamation case against Johnny.
I agree. There’s no way he’s going to win
I feel badly for him. Cocaine makes you do weird things- Even Oprah told a story of her hanging on the side of her boyfriends car by her choice trying to get him to stay.
But I believe he’s proven himself to be a reasonable person (now at least) and everyone deserves a second chance. I hope he does Pirates 6.
It’s a shame with all the horrific crap going on the world, you’re trying to rationalize this abusive behavior and feel sorry for the wealthy middle aged white man who clearly has unaddressed mental health issues and he’s an alcoholic & drug addict. I’m SICK of these white middle aged men always playing the victim card.
There was nothing in the evidence I heard at trial that made him out to be “reasonable’ in fact quite the opposite.
Welcome back, Slice!
I have watched quite a bit of the trial and I don’t believe a word of her accusations of physical abuse. I do believe the verbal abuse. Her delivery is completely different when discussing the two; she is more smooth and less animated when describing the verbal insults. She recorded hours of their time together and there are no videos or pictures of JD being physical or any pictures of her with injuries. For example, today she testified to a horrific assault in Australia by JD, including multiple cuts to her feet from the broken glass on the floor. None of the many pictures showed bloody foot prints on the floor or on the bed sheets, just JD’s blood droplets, she never sought medical attention for any injuries, and no one ever saw her with injuries. Multiple times she contradicted the house manager’s testimony and he was very credible. Yesterday, in her testimony she stated “it’s like the sun shines on you, and it’s glorious. And then he forgets you, and it’s very, very cold … When you have his attention, you feel like you’re the only person in the world; that’s why everyone loves him so much”, that is a direct quote from The Talented Mr Ripley. Someone on twitter has several examples of her stealing quotes from movies to use in her testimony. Cross will be very interesting. Closing arguments have been set for Friday 5/27.
Sharon, Winona Ryder has had nothing but kind things to say about JD. She has recently publicly stated he was never abusive towards her and “a really good, loving, and caring guy who is very protective of the people that he loves”.
Exactly. You took the words right out of my mouth. You mean to tell me she didn’t go to the ER or see the doctor for a broken nose? I’m anxious to see the cross as well. I don’t understand why they didn’t put Winona on the stand.
That Talented Mr. Riply meme is false. Look it up on Snopes. He has a great PR machine churning out these lies. Jennifer Grey was engaged to him. Look up her comments and Ellen Barkin. I have not seen any positive comments by Wynonna Ryder. Depp says he had a wonderful relationship with his ex wife Vanessa and his texts call her a greedy cunt among other nasty things.. There are corroborating texts of his apologies to Amber after these abusive episodes about ” the monster” in him. Depp also never denied his verbal and physical abuse if Amber in their one couple’s therapy session.
Well before Amber’s op ed there was negative press about his drunken behavior in set and drug use as well as his being let go from the Pirates franchise. I believe they both engaged in verbal and physical abuse. His behavior however is classic and the personification of the cycle of abuse. They were trauma bonded and in a toxic loop.
This is difficult. I agree with both of you and I realize that makes no sense. I think I just like him, very much more so after seeing his testimony. It does seem mutually abusive but I believe she is the provocateur and he was reacting. In the words of a third grader “She started it.”
I think age mattered here. She came in to his established life and thought she would run things, perhaps with good intentions. She couldn’t.
No one can chang e anyone.I just can imagine her believing that she knew how to do something that was impossible. Quite sad.
I finally got to watch most of today’s testimony. And I’m going to start from the beginning on demand on my court tv app so I can join in when it resumes after next week. (Already been watching bits and pieces)
I too, am a survivor. I’ve experienced some of the stuff she’s claiming. Because of that it’s hard to think how the jury is thinking, and probably disqualifies my opinion. Plus I’m probably also somewhat biased because of reading here. Yalls comments are great. The last thing I want to do is victim blame or not believe someone who is a survivor. All that said, something about her seems inauthentic and there are some janky pieces of evidence that don’t add up imo. Plus, anyone who has been through it would know better than to file right after his mother died. It’s when you try to leave that they lose their shit and it’s not rocket science that would be an extra emotional/volatile timing to file and ask for a bunch of money. I think most in that situation would haul ass and hide, not poke the bear. At the very least it was a mutually toxic union. It’ll be interesting to see how she does on cross and if I change my thinking after watching him and the other witnesses. I am not going into my binge knowing much about either of them nor have I watched either of their films. Looking forward to to binge watching 24/7 and see what everyone has been talking about lol. Hopefully I can catch up soon! I love TT Trials and sidebar coverage/comments here!
Okay y’all I’m just now seeing the photos of the supposed “dragging by the hair “ and I cry bullshit. Unfortunately this did happen to me and I had no way to cover it up. Traumatic alopecia caused ginormous bald spot, scabs, bleeding to where I had no hair to even attach extensions to. Had to wait for scalp to heal before I could even wear a wig and took YEARS to grow back. This is pissing me off. I feel like she’s acting and mocking real victims of abuse.
These two give me serious War Of the Roses vibes.
I agree. The skin color is irrelevant. Example: people are still talking about the “Will Smith Slap.” Get off the race train already Gingerella.
I believe them both: I don’t believe either one. They are actors. Hard to know what is scripted and what is real. The pics were real. Heard had proof.
Let’s face it, they are whacked. Depp will lose in court, but win the public. Heard the opposite.
Losers at love and winners at the money game: I am just glad I am not them.
Agree with all of this!
And what’s with Johnny wiping his coke nose and smiling during some of Amber’s testimony. Not a good look.
I think they are both obnoxious, miserable people that deserved each other. Team Neither.
I’m with you Tamara. The part where she describes the steak that was cut into bits and wrapping with scraps of her nightgown and hidden all over the premises. Who could make that shit up? I went into it Team Johnny. Not now.
I can’t get past that her mom still loved Johnny. From my experience, you hurt my daughter, I am not or never going to be okay with you. I’m going to tolerate you until I don’t have to.
That part reminded me of Nicole Brown Simpson’s family and their worship of OJ after she told them about abuse. They wanted to stay on that gravy train.
Why did Amber film and record without his knowledge all of this? She filmed and recorded all that would make him look bad but NOTHING that would have an adverse reaction to herself. She wanted this relationship with a big actor. I think she honestly loved him but knew that it would eventually play out so she recorded what would serve her well in a courtroom. Amber clearly agitated him unnecessarily. She is best described as a manipulator and a liar. She wanted to ruin him financially. Him, he puts it all out there. I honestly think he abused her mentally but not physically. He took his frustrations with her out on furniture, etc.
The victim shaming is incredible. And the reason why many women never come forward.
To be fair, the majority of us were thinking along those lines before AH testified. Now it seems that there was abuse on both sides. But I totally agree that she will (and should) win this case.
We have not seen Amber’s countersuit for defamation yet. But, I think they should both lose their cases. It’s not about what happened to the finger, or if she really had a broken nose. I believe that they were BOTH abusive to each other. And both should be allowed to talk about their abuse. This is not a criminal trial where someone is be charged with assault and battery or something even worse. This is about Johnny wanting her not to talk about the abuse. And Amber counter suing for the same thing. I believe there was physically and psychological abuse on BOTH SIDES.
At least now. I tend sort of change my mind. However. The video above will likely NOT be shown to the jurors and I had a lot of sympathy for Amber based soley on the testimony I watched. I think Johnny’s sneering and laughing during such intimate testimony whether it was acting or not will sway the jury toward Amber. We shall see.
Couldn’t agree more. The whole thing is so outlandish.
Chris Rock and Will Smith – major fascination.
I currently have a very hyper toddler and don’t have time to watch the videos. All the comments are only talking about the JD trial. I want to know about the Ericka and Jen Shaw tea. What is this podcast person saying about them. I can’t wait to see how this all plays out for them.
For those of you who watched Heard’s first day on the stand, this will sound very familiar.
Amber Heard
“The thing with (Johnny)…it’s like sun shines on you, and it’s glorious. And then he forgets you and it’s very, very cold.”
“When you have his attention, you feel like you’re the only person in the world, that’s why everyone loves him so much.”
The Talented Mr. Ripley
Marge Sherwood: The thing with Dickie…it’s like the sun shines on you, and it’s glorious. And then he forgets you and it’s very, very cold.
Tom Ripley: So I’m learning.
Marge Sherwood: When you have his attention, you feel like you’re the only person in the world, that’s why everyone loves him so much.
She is an actress but not a very good one. She can’t squeeze a tear, have an authentic catch in her throat, no reddening of the nose. There was a point where she put a tissue to her nose and it looked like she took the classic fingers to nose, inhale Colombian Marching powder. I couldn’t believe I just saw it but I was not the only one and someone took that bit and put it on the internet.
TBF, I think one is as bad as the other, but for her to put that op Ed out there playing the victim? No. Ma’am. No ma’am. I have survived a malignant narcissist and I know one when I see one and, in my opinion, that is Amber Heard. She had all the ways and means in the world to get out of that abusive relationship from the jump. She wanted him and needed him to fuel her narcissism. Johnny should have run like hell.
Yes! This!!!
Can we stop talking about the muffins lady. I believe her when she said Amber is believed to have BPD. But I don’t believe she is soley responsible for Johnny Depp’s “demise ” hollywood has an age. He is no longer the young quirky guy. Will be interested to hear the verdict.
Sidenote: Anyone follow the Kardashian trial?