Today may or may not be the day that Amber Heard finally takes the stand. The prosecution has to do their redirect on Amber’s Forensic Psychiatrist. For those of you who do not know what that is, it is someone who in a trial goes back and looks at past records and give a professional opinion. Many divorce trials has a forensic accountant who goes through a litigant’s financial records to see where the money is and where it has been moved to. In this case a forensic psychiatrist is given all access to Amber Heard’s therapy records going back several years. The goal is to show that Amber was not diagnosed with any personality disorders and her aggressive behaviors toward Johnny Depp were out of character and her “PSTD” was caused only by him. 
But, the Internet is posting arrests for Amber Heard criminal history a decade prior to her relationship with Depp. The Shrink for the defense on Tuesday’s post seemed to indicated that she had no violent behavior prior to dating Johnny Depp. That is not true. In addition to being arrested before for assaulting a male partner, there was also some sort of attack of her girlfriend in an airport. The Internet is very pro Johnny. But I think the jury who is in a bubble may hang. Today, Amber is expected to take the stand. Meanwhile there is something like a palmetto bug on my ceiling and I tried to kill it with Febreze, the only thing I have handy and I breathed in a shit ton and I am probably going to die and the fuckin bug will enjoy my filthy house. 🙁
At any rate, let’s make this the new court TV topic and I will try to wake up in time for Amber. Or maybe it would be easier to record it and do it that way. I must say Amber looked even prettier than usual today. And she never even made it to the stand. I can see why men flock to her. She is stunningly beautiful. On the outside. And that is probably what damaged her insides. Thanks to all of my trial followers/ SideBarGang for watching this with me.
Sorry gonna pop in here and.fix your definition of a forensic psychologist. They absolutely do their own assessments. I only watched snippets, but you can hear her talking about the CAPS 5. That’s the gold standard clinician administered assessment that both forensic psychologists gave Amber. Forensic psychologists work within the legal system and have specific training on how to answer legal questions. That includes developing and delivering psychological tests, diagnosis of psych conditions, analyzing old records, research studies, and many other specifics related to the intersection of psychology and the legal system.
CANT HELP MYSELF SORRY this isn’t even an important point. You know how it is…
I am well aware of what a forensic psychologist is. It is someone who has never treated Amber and who has reviewed all of her previous psychologist notes and arrives at an opinion. Just like a forensic accountant in a divorce trial is someone who has never been an accountant who looks for missing funds. There were NOT two forensic therapists. Only Ambers team had one. The other psychiatrist actually treated Amber. THAT IS THE IMPORTANT POINT. And she was with her on several occasions, and she testified to what Amber stated.
Thanks but I don’t really need your misguided help on this one. And if you actually watched the trial You would not the difference. One was paid to show up in court to protect someone and today gave false testimony that Amber has not violent behavior or displays of aggression until Depp. That is not true. And I have posted about it. And shrinks are so easily persuaded to dismiss issues of the wealthy. No one here needs your help.
I don’t think he really did all this for the money, or to win. He did this to get his side out there and to reveal her true nature. Basically to “ cancel her” like she did to him!
They didn’t treat her but they did formally assessed her. Assessment isn’t treatment but it’s critically important and half of the clinical work psychologists do. We get alot of training in it; forensic psychologists in particular. Psychological assessments are for diagnostic purposes, malingering purposes, etc. To suggest that they didn’t do anything but read notes is incorrect. They evaluated her directly using the CAPS5 and other instruments (I think she said she gave 12). They reviewed treatment notes, that’s true. But psychological assessment (asking her questions and interpretation of responses) is a key component of being a forensic psychologist. And this point came up when yesterday’s witness criticized how the other forensic psychologist interpreted certain scores and arrived at a different diagnosis. This is actually relevant for their testimony.
I agree though that I don’t think the diagnosis matters much here. I imagine they both had PTSD and just having PTSD doesn’t make you violent.
But I don’t think I deserved your attitude! I comment on here all the time. This happens to be in my area of expertise, so I felt like saying something. I was polite. And it can be a relevant difference for those following closely and trying to understand some of these nuances.
I have followed a lot of court and true crime for DECADES. Read lots of books written by forensic experts and the guys who developed the FBI profiling and I learned from your explanation.
BTW: I am planning to attend the book tour of my hero, retired CSI Paul Holes, on Friday!
I just took a PTSD self test. Moderate to Severe. Tell me something I didn’t know. I also learned from your comment. I was severely triggered by the fires here a month ago, but I am not triggered by this trial. I am rooting for Depp.
Even AH is entitled to a vigorous defense, and this lawyer is putting me to sleep.
Interesting to hear how it all works. I wanted to be a psychiatrist initially but ended up getting my degree in accounting. It’s all worked out but I am still so interested in psychology. I’m reading an old book right now -Psycho-Cybernetics. Fascinating how self-talk and self-image works. I haven’t watched this trial at all and only read this recap because I can’t figure out why so many are so interested in it.
Why are so many interested?
Fame, fortune (or loss of), blood, and sex and drugs and rock and roll!
Then … we have the Tamara-coined Felons by Bravo factor. People are drawn to poor behavior— reference the first graf of the previous post (the RHONJ recap).
Sorry for the tone KT you did not deserve that and your comments are helpful. It was very late and I was several glasses of wine in and apparently sniffing febreeze in an attempt to KILL ALL THE THINGS>
I’m very sorry for my rudenes.
♥️
That was good of you—you didn’t need to do it, and I hope you don’t get angry, but the world needs more sincere apologies.
Apology accepted 🙂
I was nervous you were going to banish me. I’m relieved it didn’t go that way!
Never. I was just reckless with my dumb mouth. 🙁
This is a civil trial. Plaintiff v defendant. Hence, no prosecutor. Sorry but referring to the attorney as a prosecutor makes it sound like someone’s going to jail after all this is over.
I think I hung jury is a victory for Depp to be honest. He was depicted as an abusive husband. And although that appears to be true, a hung jury would suggest that it was more equivalent in terms of the violence. That’s better for him (and worse for Amber) then the way it was described prior to the trial.
I didn’t watch the whole thing, but it did seem as though the psychologist’s description of Amber’s abusive parents and predisposition towards revictimization could also be said about Johnny. Further, it seems to me that it’s likely (but impossible to prove) that either one – or both – entered the relationship with PTSD already. It was difficult to watch and I’m sure extremely triggering for many in the audience, including Amber and Johnny.
I feel bad watching it. Like I’m peering in to someone else’s life. I can’t believe this is televised.
I agree with you here. This is triggering for me and others. I have trigger words that go to moderation. But I think that trials like this. need to be seen. In my opinion it was mutual combat. So that leads me to believe they were both at fault and Depp has no more involvement in the defamation than she does. But we shall see. The evidence is not all in yet.
Thanks TT for that! Ok so I did see AH had been arrested for domestic assault of her female partner and then said the police officer (who was a lesbian and active in LGBTQ community) was just misogynist and against the gay community! Charges were never made against her.
Anyhoo…. For those of you who didn’t watch and want some good tea yesterday…. AH lawyer was getting flustered and called her witness Dr Curry several times!!! Dr Curry was Johnny’s psych who did an amazing job and just happened to be sitting in the audience (is that the right word??)…. So bizarre!!! Sidenote – Curry is gorgeous!!!!
TT – hope the Febreze poisoning didn’t get to you! Lol. Sorry it did make me LOL!
i’m apparently having a mind for stupid trivia today. 1) you don’t have a washer or dryer, you send your laundry out. why do you have fabreeze sheets? 2) why are the names all different on the cases listed above?
clearly i need coffee. and every home needs a can of raid.
i am so hyper observant this morning that i failed to put coffee in the coffee maker.
OMG. Spit my coffee out!! It sounds like something I would do, be very observant of something completely inane and forget to put coffee in the coffeemaker.
Better than forgetting to put a cup where it belongs BEFORE you press the button for your espresso.
that’s a “you do it once, you don’t do it again” sort of thing.
Or maybe not! 🤣
Febreze comes in a variety of products such as an air freshener and fabric refresher all of which you spray. Not sure how well they kill bugs 🤣
I am contracted to not use Febreze, or any air freshener, as part of my legal responsibilities of adopting a bird from Mickaboo bird rescue. That should tell us something …
It killed the bug.
I am deathly afraid of spiders. Irrationally so.
I rarely kill then Becuz I am pretty sure they telepathically call their relatives in that instant before death. I’ve seen it.
But I had a really ugly one crawling towards my TV and ran for the raid. I sprayed it as it walked. And walked and walked. Up my tv. Out of my reach. Me screaming WHAT ARE YOU.
Apparently I’d grabbed white spray paint.
To make it worse, it took 20min to die. I had to watch that white legged freak for 20min.
Can you imagine for many people he called before croaking?
I’ve used windex, hairspray or anything I can use and still keep feet away!
I’ve been using it as like the spray you use to deodorize the room and make it smell better. Is that not what it is for ? It’s a spray not a sheet. I do not recommend spraying it while looking up at a bug on the ceiling.
I just remembered … There’s an ad for that! It’s pretty amusing. I can’t remember the product but I will find it. It’s an all-natural product that kills bugs. At one point, the guy is holding the dog up hoping he will lick (eat) the bug!
My 120lb male german shep. ran away from a palmetto bug and made me kill it. The whole time I was telling him that he’s the boy and its his responsibility but he wouldn’t come off the couch and help
That product is called STEM, it’s supposed to only hurt bugs and not people or pets because of how it works on their specific nervous system.
That IS the one! I read the reviews and they said it smells HORRIBLE. Maybe some people don’t like herbal scents unless they are fake?
I am delighted T is posting on this trial!
These two deserved each other.
Febreeze probably won’t kill the bug, but it will smell better … for a while
It will drown it though…as does Estee Lauder. 🤪
It’s interesting that Amber won the first lawsuit and this one doesn’t seem to be going her way, yet.
The first suit was not against Amber, it was against The Sun. Also a defamation case. He lost.
Mike b. – this is what I need to know!!!! Does anyone have info on how she won the first trial???
It seemed to be a slam dunk. The Sun in London called him a wife beater and he sued and lost.
I *think* the first trial was against a newspaper in The UK for calling Johnny a wife beater. Amber testified in it, but the case was against the newspaper and not her?
That’s what I’m seeing as well so clearly different.
My satellite provider has FINALLY added some version of CourtTV, so i am getting trial feed and talking head recaps. I respectfully submit my application to the SideBarGang 😃!
YAY! We are a fun bunch of weirdos when there is a big case happening.
I need updates on this crazy town trial case you guys! It’s fascinating lol. I don’t have cable or court tv. Keep me posted!
You have an internet connection and there is PLENTY on YouTube. Mostly the highlights. Lots of commentary too. Some of the commentators are better than the trial — entertainment wise.
Thank goodness….I had a Dr appt this morning of all days!!!!LOL
But I am home and ready….😊
The knife the knife, the knife….that said A LOT to me.
We are at lunch break and Amber is about to take the stand. She has a new look for testifying today and her hair is…. unusual.
unusual is RIGHT. I think if she had it during the whole trial, it’s as if she’s hiding looking at him.
She’s gonna block out the jurors, lol
Hair out of the way for the jury so they can all see one side of her face! (Popular in the late 70s to rock a ‘side ponytail’. Well, for one girl in my class….)
Ok had no idea Ellen Barkin was testifying at some point…. She will be testifying that he threw a wine bottle (not at anyone) when he was upset w his assistant?? Correct me if I’m wrong but clearly they both were erratic but if he wasn’t throwing it at someone and just out of anger, how does that benefit Amber? I mean she freakin was belting everyone! Just saw a clip of her sister from awhile back who had bruises all over and it was from Amber and her friends were questioning her about it but she wouldn’t talk. I also had read Depp felt badly for her sis bc AH treated her like a dog.
OMG he used to date Ellen Barkin.
Yeah I had no idea! He said she wanted more than he did…
I am hating her more with every word. 🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻
Omg, I know……😊
Bwahahahaha. She just said she was at a school offering makeup AND HAIR classes. Even if she didn’t take them, she was exposed.
By going over her background, lawyer is IMO inadvertently setting up why she might have had PTSD a long time ago — to get away from home at an early age.
Yeah. Since there are allegations that she used make-up to create bruising, mentioning the make-up classes was a big mess up on her part.
Her family life …..early childhood was abusive that was mentioned in previous testimony. But the defense forensic psychologist claims that didn’t contribute to her PTSD.
I just want to fix her hair. It was so cute yesterday.
And here comes the acting. Very poor acting.
I love the crying with no tears. Also the heavy breathing into the mic. rehearse much?
Ummm. I’m going to say it. She sounds like she’s acting. I think that I expected a testimony that was well prepared. Question, and answer……..
I’m sure she’s nervous but she’s confusing me.
After the break her cheek was darker.
The blush she was wearing is the same shade of the photos if her “facial bruising” It’s a light pink! Am I the only one who noticed that?
I’m reading her comments on being slapped after mocking his tattoo. The details are hard to makeup. Not sure now.
I can’t wait for cross examination. Either she holds up, or not. Somebody is lying.
She started by saying she remembered it “like yesterday.” Then … she “couldn’t remember” the rest of the tattoo. “FOREVER.” WINO FOREVER. Changed from “Winona Forever.”
One of the analysts noted that she did not say “HE slapped me.” No pronoun. And that the tenses changed “slipped” to “slaps.” Also, that the “main event” is sandwiched between a lot of before and after fluff. All signs of deception.
She started off believable but the longer she talks it feels less authentic.
So, kids and a dog. Makes me go hmmmmm.
By the way, she’s a tattle tale. Poor stewardess.
I am finally finished for the day. That was a long afternoon. If what she is saying is true, and honestly, it can’t all be made up. He has no case.
Is there a good place to watch a summary of the day’s trial? I’m unable to watch the live trial on Court TV but am fascinated by this trial.
Court TV has a recap show starting at 7 pm EST. Also there are you tube videos everywhere but that is probably more people discussing the testimony as we are doing here.
I just added another photo to the top of this post. Social media is 100% Team Johnny. They are posting all kinds of things but I thought the letter I just added was damning. This was part of the UK evidence.
The letter is extremely damning – did I miss this before? Was this submitted by JD’s
Team??
The letter was a written statement for the UK trial and has not been submitted into evidence for this one. At least not yet.
Ok so I didn’t realize this was from her ex assistant who testified for Johnny. I only saw part of her testimony. Was this discussed then? If not, I wonder if they are waiting to submit until after Amber testifies to diminish her stories.
If she weren’t an actress, she might be credible.
I even found myself wondering …
And THEN — wait for it — “I don’t drink spirits.” WTF?
PANTS ON FIRE!
We HEARD (PI) those tapes! You are CLEARLY under the influence.
Many people have talked about her drinking!
Fucking NARC too!
I almost never drink spirits (liquor) either but I can get plenty drink on beer and wine. She has talked many times about her love for red wine.
But wait! Didn’t Johnny’s shrink say she drank like three tequilas during her home visit or am I making that up?
I thought they mentioned tequila as well! Also coke and she said “she didn’t do that”…. Hmmmm
Ok so AH 2nd day – one of the issues I have is she’s crying but no tears…. She’s trying hard to get tears but nothing…. Anyone notice that??
Funny how she remembers every detail EXCEPT that his tattoo says “WINO FOREVER.”
Originally, “WINONA (Ryder) FOREVER.
The photo of her bruise … she does not say he HIT her arm. She says he GRABBED her arm. It does not look like a “grab” bruise. She says he hit her face several times, yet only her arm is bruised. I wish we knew what she texted. Because that bruise is several days old (color) and if she says when she got it, it could give a timeframe to truth or lie.
Just heard that there will be no testimony next week because the Judge has a conference to go to. So we get our lives back at least for a week! LOL.
My god. Do they all fly home. Stay in hotels. The costs.
Thank gawd!!! I will be a maniac getting caught up w stuff so I can sit and watch the following week!! 🤷🏻♀️
Do we know if there will be anyone specific called as a witness to collaborate her stories? Don’t they have to submit a witness list?
Either way this is very damming for both of their careers. At least this will be the finale to a very toxic relationship.
And what the %$#: …Hicksville …when you all own an island???? And why did he have to sell the yacht?
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I mean they are both actors but who knows. I would have just wrote a book to tell my side vs. have all this played out for all to see. That goes for the both of them.
THERE IS ANOTHER GODDAMN BUG ON MY CEILING! I swear it is a Palmetto but they are not native to Georgia except in the coastal region. WTF is happening here? Bugs on the ceiling where you sleep are not the same as a roach on the floor. Also, roaches flee when you turn the light on and this bug walks toward the light and the ceiling fan.
I haven’t been able to watch this one and I feel left out. This shit is usually my jam. That said, AH seems cray cray. I think she has a baby daughter. Godspeed, kid.
i’m kinda bored with Amber. I thought Johnny spoke haltingly (and with his weird accent from nowhere on earth), but she’s being a snoozefest. She had 2 authentic sniffles today, but still no tears.
Has she talked about the conflicting incidents yet? Maybe on cross.
P.S. Can you imagine if Depp and Kathleen Turner starring in a movie together? Both have acquired weird accents.
Some recognized factors of liars:
A good liar sticks close to the truth.
A good liar doesn’t ramble on and on with the fluff. That is to sound more believable, but it is actually an indication of lying. (A REALLY GOOD LIAR HAS THE ENITE BACK STORY AND DETAILS BUT DOESN’T OFFER THEM UNESS ASKED.)
Amber’s testimony is more fluff than meat. SO MUCH FUCKING FLUFF. 💤 💤 💤
Well what I have an issue with is her saying he would hit her – let’s say lip and there is a photo of her the next day- nothing on her face – no swelling, nothing! I have seen numerous cases of this!!
Do they give out Razzies for Court performances?
Maybe they should start a new award. The Shitties. 💩
I wonder if the jury is of the same opinion we are.
I guess I am in the minority. But I am starting to believe her. I woke up early to watch but kept falling back to sleep for most of it. I have to say today is pretty triggering. As someone who has been abused, it is hard not to feel compassion for this story.
I don’t understand her version of the finger story.
TT – ok not sure if anyone has shared this but there is an account on YouTube called Incredibly Average which does illustrations of what happened and providing audio. It’s crazy!!!
https://youtu.be/VDP9NVQmiXw
If I’m not allowed to share, please delete. Damn, going to be listening/watching! He has a ton!!!
Thanks Melcle. I made a new post just for this!
Johnny and his lawyer are irritating me today as well. Lot’s of smirking at high inappropriate times.
The definition is ass backwards from the way it is on everyone else. You CAN TESTIFY ABOUT WHAT YOU TOLD SOMEONE. BUT NOT WHAT SOMETHING SOMEONE TOLD YOU BECAUSE THAT IS HEARSAY. YOU CAN TESTIFY TO WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SAID OR DID. This is driving me crazy. And the judge is sustaining every ridiculous objection by Johnny’s attorneys.
Looking at this as a juror, I’m totally flipping to Amber’s side.
Now she can’t answer which color of graffti is on top of another when it is abundantly obvious and requires no speculation at all?!
I started to believe Amber until IMHO it looked as if she was attempting to act. Today I changed from CourtTV to TMZ live stream. They won’t be back in court until May16th and court will start at 9:00 am. They hope to finish up by Memorial Day. I can’t wait until the cross. I wonder if her stories will hold up. These two should of never got together.
I keep wanting to scream, FIX YOUR FUCKING FACE at Johnny and his slimeball lawyer.