I’m going to try to pop out what I hope will be a quick RHONJ recap. Banjo has decided to live either right under my feet or out in the very back of the yard in the dark. There appears to be no inbetween tonight. Anyway, we start talking about Dolores’s home renovations again. This may be the most monotonous storyline we have ever had to endure. With doctor jumping ship, it looks like the plan is for Frank to move into the house with her kids. Again, nobody cares. Jackie’s kids are off to sleepover camp.
Family Ties Unravel
Gia is already pushing merch. That didn’t take long. Teresa and Gia tell Milania about a pool part that Louis is having to try to get the Gorgas and the Giudices back together. Milania wants nothing to do with her uncle. Frank and the Joes go out drinking together. And they are drinking a lot. They talk about sex. Frank seems to still be in love with Dolores. He says that David, the third in there throuple has disappeared. Joe is still angry with the girls. They laugh about the video of Luis naked in the woods with a bunch of naked guys. Jack and Evan look forward to two weeks childfree. They want to throw a keg party. It’s a flashback to their college days. Jackie’s struggling with her eating disorder again. It’s very bad. She needs help. Evan is very supportive.
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Off to Luis and Teresa’s house where they are preparing for the big pool party with the intention bringing Joe Gorga and the girls together. Luis sees himself as some sort of self-help guru. All the Giudice girls are there even Gabriella. She’s too normal for this family. Luis is making pizzas from scratch in the outdoor oven. They look delicious. When Luis starts talking, Melissa’s son has a total WTF look on his face. Teresa says she has no character flaws to work on. Melissa says that she wishes that the two families should spend more time together.
Joe Gorga says basically that the family should not hold on to grudges. Milania is there and that pissed her off. Milania says she wants to let go of her fear about what is going to happen next. Joe says they need to stop living in the past. Somehow they get to a happily ever after. For now anyway.
Beer Pong & Dong Talk
Traci and Tiki are coming to the keg party. They should fit right in considering how she got with Tiki. She says that the rumors are not true. Also, we will see Margaret for the first time this episode. What’s going on with her? The guests arrive to the bar with lots of beer pong set ups. I don’t think I ever played that. The first catfight begins because Margaret tells Melissa that Dolores told her that Joe Gorga has a big dick. Melissa goes to ask Joe Gorga if he had sex with Dolores when they were young. They both deny it. Traci stands up for Jennifer when Margaret starts trashing her. Jackie defends Jennifer as well.
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Then, Bill and Jennifer arrive. Jackie greets them both with hugs and kisses. Bill gravitates to Tiki. Margaret is shoving food in her mouth and ignoring everyone. Dolores finally admits that she and David have broken up. Dolores says basically she dumped him because he refused to fully commit and he was already married to his job. The guys are all getting along, drinking shots from the ice luge and playing beer pong. Jennifer tells Dolores that Jackie told her Dolores is not her friend. This starts a screaming match between Jackie and Dolores. Dolores looks like she is about to hit Jackie. Gorga alerts Frank and it ends there.
I was worried about Jackie are her ED last episode. I’m glad she’s getting help. I wonder how she was treated originally it doesn’t seem as if she got to the root of the issues
I don’t ever cry in any housewives show, but when Jackie said that she watches what she eats but is “hungry all the time” really connected.
I think body issues is a huge problem in today’s society which is why so many females get plastic surgery in the hope that it will fix their mental/emotional issues. I do hope she gets the help she needs.
I was bulimic for 25 years…it’s so easy to slip back. I hope she’s getting help as she has kids….I didn’t care if I died as it was just me
I’m glad you are here to tell your story. I struggle too and I hope Jen really dives into therapy privately off camera and gets into recovery. There’s a lot of help out there.
Anorexia is notoriously hard to treat. This back and forth is, unfortunately, extremely common in anorexia even with the best evidence based treatments. It’s often something you carry with you forever.
I’m new to this franchise and find Margaret to be so loud and obnoxious.
Also, because I’m new and I realize we’re not to comment on looks, but is there something going on with her mouth? It seems like her lips were pulled too far to the sides of her face. Was her mouth always this long? Something is so odd about it.
She got a new face last year.
It’s her new teeth!
It’s everything! Her mouth was always a wide grin and her face lift just seemed to accentuate it. If I remember correctly, she was (sadly/unfortunately) called trout mouth before (was it by Danielle??) and now it’s hard not to think about thar when I see her 😕
How quickly it seems that everyone, with the exception of Margaret, forgot how obnoxious Jennifer is. The crying and poor me attitude is over the top. Again, if you didn’t want your family and friends to find out about your husband’s indiscretions then don’t go on a reality tv show.
I think Margaret feels a bit betrayed. She probably thought the women would back her up more after calling out Jennifer for her hypocrisy. Can you imagine if Jennifer treated Teresa the way she treated Margaret or made disparaging remarks about Teresa’s Mother! She would be sleeping with the fishes. Double standards.
The way Gia looked at Melissa at Teresa’s pizza soirée said it all. Teresa’s daughters grew up listening to their parents trash Melissa and their uncle for years. Melissa’s fake “we should see each other more” is for the camera. I think once filming is done the Gorgas and the Guidices go their separate ways.
Thank goodness Jackie is going to help.
Yes, Melissa is fake. “We should see each other more” seemed like a safe goal in her mind. Ha! No such luck 🙂
She underestimated how self-absorbed Teresa is!! Teresa turned it into a chance to criticize. LOL! She said “See? That’s why you should invite us over more.” Someone told her not to be negative and she happily said “ok. ok.” But Teresa still believes that Melissa told on herself and her shortcomings whereas Teresa herself (as usual) doesn’t have anything she needs to work on.
Great entertainment!
RHONJ Haiku
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Gia pushes merch
Teresa thinks she’s perfect
Ask naked Luis
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Gorga has big dick
How does Dolores know that?
He’s Italian, DUH!
And short…
@Nanette and Beets: Thank you, you gave me (selfish) laughter when I needed it 🙂
PS @ Tamara: Thanks for holding fast. I don’t like saying things publicly, but your Banjo is like my Sioux (from your words). I can’t see from crying because I lost her 2 days ago….15 years and feels like I lost everything . I’m sorry, I’m just in it and that’s that. Sending love.
Noescapeartist1970, I’m so sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry to hear about Sioux. Sending love and light to you. xo ~tt
@TT and Joey -thank you. Thank you….
Noescapeartist1970, my heart goes out to you, I am so sorry for the loss of Sioux. Unfortunately I share your pain – I too had to say goodbye to my furry baby boy on Tuesday, after 16 years. “Gutted” doesn’t begin to describe the feeling of losing a longtime companion. Sending you love, peace and comfort during this incredibly difficult time. ♡
@NicD-Thank you, and I am sorry you lost your boy. Can’t seem to get out what I’d like to say to you (but gutted is how this is-you know). Sending love back and thank you xo
Teresa really needs to stop filming with her daughters, her stretched and overly made up face is sooo much worse looking next to them. It doesn’t help that Luis is completely creepy looking either. What was he thinking trying to get a bunch of Jersey Italians to write about their feelings? Did he just move to Jersey or is Teresa the first Italian person he’s met in life? I cracked up watching Joe Gorga trying play along! Jackie’s reaction to being called “this” was classic.
I like Tiki and Traci, they could be interesting to watch. Poor Jennifer, that nose is so swollen it looks painful, lord knows I know that feeling. I’d love to know where Delores found acid wash jeans with an elastic waistband, I mean I know it’s Jersey and all but please don’t tell me that is going to be a thing.
OMG! Those were jeans? My contacts were bugging me so I took them out. In my blurred vision I thought they were sweat pants.
You might be right! Sweatpants never occurred to me. Now I’m stuck wondering who, other than Delores, would want them? I remember Delores had them rolled up at the bottom a la 80s and I noticed it was a pretty sloppy roll for someone who grew up in the 80s knowing how to roll jeans. Sweatpants would explain that!
Omg the tight folded roll to create our own skinny pant🤣 did that in elementary. Her look reminded me of going to a party to strictly get hammered not to look cute for guys. Plus she might need throw down you gotta be ready!
Jennifer was so awful in the previous season and especially at the reunion. But, watching WWHL tonight really made me feel empathetically for her. She regrets her nose job. She regrets what she said about Margaret and her mom. She regrets what she said to reveal Bill’s affair. It’s refreshing to see her take accountability and also sad to see that she isn’t happy with her surgery. It’s such a scary thing to do and to have it turn out wrong has to feel awful.
Jackie’s ED scene was gut wrenching. I have worried about her for a few seasons. I think all of us could see what was happening. She never ate when the group ate. The stress of the rumor really did a number on her. Does Jennifer deserve Jackie’s support? IDK maybe, maybe not.
I could not care less about the house Frank and Deloris’s adult kids are complaining about not being finished.
Teresa has taught her daughters to be as disrespectful to Melissa and Joe as she is. Where’s muh loyalty. She is so far off the mark.
I feel for Jennifer and her kids regarding the affair, but I don’t have sympathy for Jennifer where Margaret is concerned. I’m not taking up for Margaret on how her and Joe got together, but she did come out with it when she joined the show. She’s admitted how the kids were hurt when she and Joe cheated/got together. – but, Jennifer has poked the bear and kept poking. She has slut shamed Margaret, Margaret’s mother, she stood by Teresa when Teresa spread unfounded rumors about Evan. Jennifer has talked a lot of shit. You just don’t do that when you have skeletons in your own closet. Margaret said she’d known about Bill’s affair for yrs. She refrained from saying anything to Jennifer a lot longer than I would have after all the shit Jennifer has said. Jennifer said nasty shit about Margaret as a mother too. Yes, the kids are older than Jennifer’s kids. I feel about this like I do Candiace Dillard – you keep opening that big mouth long enough and someone is going to shut your ass up one day.
Exposing Bill affair actually helps me understand why Jennifer has such disdain for Margaret, because she did what a woman tried to do to her. Wives don’t tend to becomes friends with mistresses look at Traci.
And I understand why Margaret would have disdain for Jennifer. Jennifer came on the show all high and mighty, bragging about her house, her # of bathrooms and that hideous furniture. She looked down her nose the first cast trip. She insulted Margaret’s friend and the friend’s home. She was rude, crude and obnoxious. Since that time she has been in everyone’s face except Teresa who makes Jennifer look like a fool because Teresa doesn’t defend her. Jennifer thinks it’s fine to name call and bring up other people’s skeletons. She got pretty nasty about Marge Sr. She was so jealous when she found out Jackie has real money. Then, she had no compassion for Jackie whatsoever when Teresa spread unfounded rumors. Jennifer was trying to dig up more dirt on Evan, trying to get the identity of a woman. If she wants to play in the mud about everyone else’s business she shouldn’t be crying when her dirty secrets get aired. I don’t know why she came on a reality show when she had secrets she wanted to keep hidden. She would’ve been smart not to have broadcast other’s dirt. Margaret said she knew about Bill’s affair for yrs and kept quiet, but finally had enough of Jennifer. If Jennifer believes in forgiveness and wants to forgive Bill for his transgressions- fine, BUT she needs to remember that others have the same right to be forgiven. She’s more concerned about hurting others. She did not care if she kept digging into Evan and hurt Jackie or Jackie’s kids.
100% spot on
Same.
NCC, I totally agree. I now have more empathy for her than previous seasons.
Someone please get Gabriella out of Teresa’s house before she crosses over to the dark side like Gia and Melania have. She’s such a sweet kid. Melania has been a brat her whole life and she’s not improving with age. I hate to say it, but I actually liked Luis tonight. He has a strange, puzzled look on his face most of the time, but he didn’t creep me out that much tonight. I was moved by Jackie discussing her eating disorder. I hope she does get the help she needs before it affects her kids. I don’t understand why Jackie is being so supportive of Jen. Delores’ daughter referring to her father as Frank and being so disrespectful when she was talking about him horrified me. The fight between Delores & Jackie at the end looks very interesting. And how did that start? Oh yeah, sweet old Jen threw her friend Jackie under the bus.
You know out of all the daughters, she’s always my favorite. Maybe because she looks nothing like them, lol…I know she looks like Joe’s side of the family.
I think of Gabrella as the Marilyn of the Munster family.
I love Jackie, hate Jennifer.
Gabriella has always been my favourite too, she seems grounded, must be nature over nurture!
The romantic in me wants Frank and Dolores to get back together. The realist I am, knows that I could never forgive what he did.
Hate is a very strong word .Jennifer is a pain in the arse don’t go on reality TV if you can’t handle all the drama.
Yep. Hate in reality TV terms, not to be confused with the real world.
I guess it’s my utter distain for Margaret that colors my views re her outing Bill’s affair. I don’t understand why no one gets the fact that Margaret was the perpetrator having affairs with married men, while Jennifer was the victim of someone doing the same with her husband (I know he was at fault too, but irrelevant to this discussion). Margaret bragged about her and her mother’s sex lives, affairs etc as fodder for her “book,” while Jenifer was keeping Bill’s affair private for so many years. No one was “outing” Margaret. Oh, and her “me too” stories fall flat with me. I had bosses put moves on me when I was very young, yet I managed not to have sex with them for months/years. She is abusing this “me too” story to sell her book too.
There are reasons none of the children speak to her. She is shady as shit — just look at all her financial issues. Yet another lawsuit was filed against her this week for various lies and alleged fraud and failure to pay loans on houses. There is just nothing to commend her.
Theresa’s kids have always been brats. Why is anyone surprised now? Gia should get on with her real career and not flog merch on the show.
JMHO
I completely agree with you. I don’t get why ppl think Jennifer slut shamed Margaret? Margaret slut shamed herself by boasting about her nasty little affairs on Tv. Most women that I know wouldn’t even hang with Margaret. It’s not normal for a side chick/ mistress to brag about sleeping with someone’s husband while she’s married. It’s actually a disgrace. She wrecked two families. On the flip side, Bill’s affair was kept private and he regrets it. Jenn and Bill have made it work and they’ve come out on top in my opinion. And her me too movement fell flat on me too.
Thank you! You, me, and Jennifer seem to be the only ones that remember how Margaret told the boss story the first time on the lake trip. Margaret glorified sleeping with her boss. She said something like, “I was so hot of course my boss wanted to sleep with me.” She seemed proud about it. And Jennifer picked up on that and was crucified later. I believe that Margaret’s ghostwriter told her to present it differently to align with the ME2 movement.
Thank you for posting this. I was looking for logic and reasoning and I found it here. No woman deserves to be cheated on and especially shouldn’t find out about it days before giving birth. That’s heartbreaking to hear. It’s so clear why Jennifer was unable to process hearing about Margaret’s cheating.
Margaret has gotten away with a lot of shit. Wine throwing, pool pushing, shady AF businesses, bankruptcy, decorating as a storyline…..
Jen is no hypocrite. So glad that Margaret is being called out. The only thing she has going for her is in house plumbing services.
I have never forgotten Jennifer’s cringe first trip with the group to Margaret’s friend’s ranch. She was rude, disdainful, insulting, gauche and boorish. Nothing has changed during her time on the show. She’s only gotten worse. Her home is awful. It’s like a discount hookah bar in a strip mall. She has less than zero taste and even less humility. She’s attacked everyone and everything they have in an effort to shore up her non-existent self-esteem. Her comeuppance delights me. She played stupid games and she won stupid prizes. She deserves it all. I only hope she’ll self-reflect and become a better person, because she has her moments and she has potential.
I am Team Jennifer. But you are right that you behaved badly on that trip.
(In her defense, I would have been a little bit disappointed too. Compared to RHONY’s trips to the islands and RHOBH’s trips to Europe, it was not that glamorous.)
I agree with you Sunshine!!!! I’m not defending that Margaret was her present husband’s mistress back yrs ago, but Jennifer has been in everyone’s face. She came in thinking she was better than everyone else. She was both pitiful and pathetic when she found out Jackie had money. She was looking up info on her, her real estate – just like she went nosing trying to get more info that would corroborate the Evan cheating rumors. She’s fine with exposing and nosing into everyone else’s business, but she doesn’t like it when the roles are reversed.
I thought that the scene at Luis’s house was really helpful. They seemed to find resolution. As Terri said he didn’t creep me out like he usually does. Dolores and her kids are spoiled. I’m glad Jackie stood up for herself, no one is going to call me “This” and get away with it! Dolores is tough, she is a PD Captains daughter and Patterson is rough. I wouldn’t want to tangle with her, but I wouldn’t back down either. Melissa was holding her back, and Jennifer actually pulled her away-
What’s with the Marge? Jennifer hadn’t said anything provoking to make her repeat that! I mean, out of the blue, I do feel badly for Jennifer. And her children. It’s not a good look on Margaret.
I had to listen to Gia sing again?????
Puuuuuuuuke.
Gia us like a housewife junior….she is just gross in her ambition. Get an education and a real job.
Teresa has no family? What about Kathy Wakile???
Luis….gross.
The Queen of NJ needs her head chopped off … thank God Gabriella is slightly normal.
Gia’s in college. She’s pursuing a degree in criminal justice.
Thank you! Gia is a good girl. All of those sisters seem like they are close and supportive of each other.
There us a difference between CROOKED and CROOKS
…bent in their thinking and life VS committing a crime
I was tickled to watch Tiki ironing his shirt! And then when they showed him at the party, it looked like it had never seen that iron!
I feel Dolores gets a pass when it comes to being “real” on the show. Her information comes out in dribs and drabs. She got plastic surgery and didn’t tell anyone. She lives here she lives there. Everything is vague and she don’t wanna talk about it. What’s the real deal with that family?
Luis was trying something with Teresa’s family that was beyond their scope. Teresa is the queen of denial.
The story about Jennifer’s husband’s affair and her calling out Margaret’s past has been so difficult to watch. The ah-ha moment was when Bill’s affair was confirmed. No wonder Jennifer hates cheaters. She came after Margaret strongly for being so casual about sharing the facts of her own affair, which ended up destroying lives and resulted in her own children not being in her life.
I disagree with how harshly Jen reacted toward Margaret these past few seasons. However, knowing about Bill’s affair was eye opening, it explains all of Jennifer’s anger towards Margaret. It makes so much sense, and I wish the women on the show had an ounce of sympathy for what Jennifer went through.
So heartbreaking to watch Jackie’s health issues. She’s fortunate to have a husband who loves and supports her through it.
Delores is my favorite. She’s so tough. I appreciate how rational she is when it comes to some of the issues the women face in the group. So she’s a hothead. She’s lived a very long life, and been through so many challenges. I’m convinced Frank will always love her and wants her back.
Margaret doesn’t have biological children. The children who aren’t speaking to her are her stepchildren, the ex-husband’s (Jan?) children. They hate her for how she hurt their father.
She has a biological son who is 25.
I didn’t take Margaret’s discussion of her past affairs etc as bragging, she just was telling her story. If you think about it, she connects Marge Sr’s less than stellar parenting to Sr’s lifestyle.
Aa for Jennifer’s disdain for Margaret for being the side chick, I am conflicted. Why are we as women so hot about them. I am more concerned about my husband who had vows with me, breaking them. Of course no one should get involved with people who are in relationships. But why hold someone responsible for your hurt more than the one who supposedly vowed to be yours.