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Thoughts On Bravo’s Racism Problem

January 28, 2022 by tamaratattles 72 Comments

Ramona SingerClearly, Bravo has a racism problem. But they seem to just do it sort of sporadically. They wiped out half the Vanderpump Rules cast, to the detriment of their ratings. But they dragged their feet on firing Jennie Nguyen. They went ALL THE WAY BACK to a couple of young VPR employees to HIGH SCHOOL and then fired them. And Jax. And Brittany, but that was for homophobia or something I think? And Stassi. And Kristen. And I don’t remember who else.

Bravo should do more background checks on all of these people. But right now, EVERYONE is feeling like Ramona and her racism is getting a pass. Do you think she should be fired from RHONY? It isn’t even about the thing she ALLEDGEDLY said about Eboni K, Williams which was some like “This is why we don’t have black housewives.” Allegedly, Eboni filed a complaint and so did a producer. And they didn’t find a reason? I have to be honest. I would miss Ramona if she was gone. But, she has done a lot more ON THE SHOW, than most of the cancelled people did online.

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Why is that? Is it because it was not put in writing? I dunno.  But she surely did a lot of things ON THE SHOW. That were worse than what other people did in the past on social media. Why did they not do anything about her Shabbat episode? Or all the MANY times that she treated hotel staff as beneath her? Calling them servants?

Then, there was Luann who showed up in what some people considered black face as her Halloween outfit was Diana Ross or something? Is there something I am missing here? What are your thoughts?

In my opinion on the one had I think we should let these people show us who they are. But, if we are cancelling all the racists, there a few that somehow seem bulletproof on Bravo. I’d rather have them exposed rather than cancelled. What are your thoughts?

 

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  1. Karen says

    January 28, 2022 at 4:31 am

    Nobody gets cancelled the loss of a paycheck from Bravo still allows them to get paid by another source.

    Lots of folks are bringing up Ramona. Didn’t they just not air the season reunion cuz of her which would have made the whole cast potentially lose money?

    Some might mention Nene but didn’t she lose some checks over her homophobic comments?

    Bravo is known for its felons at this point so I suppose they’ll continue to pick and choose which cast members to boot and for what.

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    • BeetsWhy says

      January 30, 2022 at 9:12 am

      Bravo has always been ahead of the racial curve in my opinion. Atlanta was a game changer until Nene blew her shot big time. Kim took her 15 minutes and ran with it then fumbled; Kandi did the same but continues to run.

      Now that every city must have a Black/Indian/Asian/Trans/Gay cast member the shows have become silly and forced. What is wrong with hanging out with people who are like yourself? It’s kind of natural, no?

      This need to include the Benetton United Way cast member is silly. People gravitate towards like people and that is normal. It doesn’t mean anyone hates anyone—that’s just political bullshit used for votes when convenient.

      Got my mitt, throw your hate!

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      • Ktina says

        January 31, 2022 at 4:04 pm

        I’m with you on this one.

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      • Deltalawgirl says

        February 3, 2022 at 11:10 am

        Naw, everyone doesn’t gravitate towards people “like” them. Some people find that they like people who are different. I personally, seek people out who are different from me so I can learn new things and be apprised of new cultures I have no knowledge of, to expand my horizons on a variety of issues. Plenty of Caucasian people organically have friends who are different races, ethnicities, etc… and it’s NOT forced. What Bravo needs to do is get rid of these intractable classists and racists e.g. Ramona& Company, and find ladies who organically have friends that don’t have homogenous backgrounds. TV was mostly Caucasian for a long time. We won’t self-destruct if Ramona Singer is given her walking papers.

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  2. Pippa says

    January 28, 2022 at 4:47 am

    What about Luann’s constant racism against Native / First Nations People? It was beyond blatant and nobody seems to say anything about it.

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    • JoJoFLL says

      January 28, 2022 at 2:29 pm

      LuAnn is Native American.

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      • Betty says

        January 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm

        It was still racist against her own people. The fact that she is Native American just makes it all the more disheartening, she should know better. But I don’t think she truly knows her own history nor does she care to educate herself.

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        • tamaratattles says

          January 28, 2022 at 5:09 pm

          Yeah, that is not how racism works.

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        • JoJoFLL says

          January 29, 2022 at 12:18 pm

          Betty, listen to the lyrics of any gangster rap.

          Literally any one.

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    • BeetsWhy says

      January 30, 2022 at 9:17 am

      Oh, Pippa, please speak about it—there are not enough people like you speaking up…

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    • BeetsWhy says

      January 30, 2022 at 9:53 am

      All lands and borders were established by war. Why do we feel American Indians should get a pass? Where else in Europe/Asia/Russia, etc., do these rules apply?

      Think on that for a moment and get back to me.

      I have a THREE DAY PREP for my next colonoscopy at noon on TUESDAY so I’m in a real good mood people 😉

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      • IJC says

        January 31, 2022 at 2:38 pm

        Umm , three whole days worth of colonoscopy prep? Sounds like someone is completely full of shit. Just saying’.

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  3. Sara says

    January 28, 2022 at 5:16 am

    Regarding Jennie Nguyen, I mean a cursory check of her social media shows she’s racist.

    Bravo knew. They knew. The issue is why they cast her to begin. They wanted this to blow up. Look at the show and channel getting attention now, maybe I should watch… etc. Bravo knew.

    Aside – wasn’t she shading Mary for using the term ‘slanted eyed’ and so offended, yet she so horrifically and unapologetically demeans legitimate protesters of police brutality that happens to target certain ethnicity/culture?

    It’s crazy. I have a friend (or had) who is disabled. In the same way Trump mocked the reporter. Even after all of this, he still supported Trump!

    Brainwash people, or what? He’s making fun of you to your face, he’s enacting laws to your detriment in front of your face, he’s taking away rights of the many, he’s stealing your money, your disability checks … gone! Yet they support him.

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    • powerthoughtsblog says

      January 28, 2022 at 4:04 pm

      I don’t have to write a comment because Sara spoke for me! Thank you!

      Reply
    • BJ says

      January 28, 2022 at 8:08 pm

      Bingo; totally on point.

      Reply
    • Fav says

      January 29, 2022 at 4:27 pm

      He’s not even the President. This country has gone to pots and it’s not even him taking away. It’s not because of him that our gas prices are out of sight and grocery shopping is out of the question. So please.

      Reply
      • Fave says

        January 29, 2022 at 4:36 pm

        Why awaiting moderation?

        Reply
        • tamaratattles says

          January 29, 2022 at 4:53 pm

          Because you can’t type your name or your email address when you get all riled up about your cult leader.

          Reply
      • tamaratattles says

        January 29, 2022 at 4:52 pm

        The country was just fine until the former, twice impeached fatass who is currently facing dozens if not hundreds of civil and criminal legal cases and investigations, who refused to admit he lost the election, tried to buy votes and is the first scumbag not to participate in the legal transfer of power, encouraged his cult followers to refuse vaccination until he started to realize that plan was only killing the morons who support him, cause an INSURRECTION encouraging his followers who wanted to harm congresspeople and kill the vice president (and told the mob of rioters he loved them, duped all the racists and scumbags in this country to drink the Kool-Aid. Or bleach. Or horse dewormer. Apparently, his follows don’t even need the taste of Kool-Aid to cover up the taste.

        If you would get off of Fox News and actually learn about what is going on, you would learn about things like the GLOBAL supply chain crisis. And a whole lot of other things.

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        • LuVoss says

          January 29, 2022 at 6:18 pm

          Bravo, Tamara, and thank you for saying so articulately and with such panache all that I feel. Thank you for expressing it perfectly!

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        • Ti Yershoo says

          January 29, 2022 at 6:46 pm

          I’ve been in international trade for 20yrs. Trying to explain to the RedHat crowd ANYTHING regarding current economic conditions is like trying to teach a vaginal wart how to hula.
          sorry. Off topic.
          But GFD gleeful ignorance annoys me

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        • BeetsWhy says

          January 30, 2022 at 10:07 am

          Did you seriously FAT SHAME President Trump? Hilarious.

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        • Zalo says

          January 31, 2022 at 2:27 pm

          Your eloquent response made my heart proud, Tamara!

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      • BeetsWhy says

        January 30, 2022 at 10:04 am

        Oh, please, do tell me how much you hated (past tense) President Trump’s “mean” tweets. Were you crying when we worked WITH Mexico to secure BOTH our borders? Were you crying when we were on our way to enter independence? Were you whining when our country was respected because our President wasn’t 50 years indebted to China and Ukraine? I’ll save the rest for my reply to your defense of the moron now in office. Even SNL is making fun of him so I eagerly await your replies.

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        • tamaratattles says

          January 30, 2022 at 3:54 pm

          He had four years to build his promised wall, and did not. I’m actually FOR a wall. He couldn’t even do the one thing he kept bragging about.

          Other countries were LAUGHING at him and by proxy US. Do you not remember the highly embarrassing G7 Summit where he pushed other leaders out of the way to get the center spot in the photos? All the photos of other other G7 leaders literally laughing at him? The fact he was mocked so much that he just left because they hurt his big fat feelings? Then he flew off to hang out with the other losers, Kim Jong Un and Putin? That didn’t sound any alarm bells for you?

          And yes, Trump is the fattest president we have ever had. And the biggest fat head. Have you seen him lately he’s even fatter because he is stress eating because of all of his indictments and civil suits. With any luck he will be the first president ever to do jail time. Maybe he can get a cell with his insurrectionists buddies.

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          • Zalo says

            January 31, 2022 at 2:05 pm

            What about when he was laughed at after his first speech in front of UN General Assembly? He was dumbfounded that the rest of the world was literally laughing to his face! Just because Fox News says we were respected across the world during Fatass’s time in office does not make it the Truth.

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          • Donna says

            February 4, 2022 at 6:29 pm

            C’mon, let’s go all the way. He’s not only fat, a fatass, BUT, he is also bald. He has a small amount of hair around the bottom of head, that he combs forward, does a flip back and then one side upward. These few hairs are like 10 feet long so he can do his machinations to pretend he is not bald. AND, I might add a low IQ, the lowest of all Presidents. Like Pence said today. TRUMP WAS WRONG.

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      • BeetsWhy says

        January 30, 2022 at 10:05 am

        Oh, please, do tell me how much you hated (past tense) President Trump’s “mean” tweets. Were you crying when we worked WITH Mexico to secure BOTH our borders? Were you crying when we were on our way to enter independence? Were you whining when our country was respected because our President wasn’t 50 years indebted to China and Ukraine?

        I’ll save the rest for my reply to your defense of the moron now in office. Even SNL is making fun of him so I eagerly await your replies.

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        • Keep it moving says

          January 30, 2022 at 1:12 pm

          To paraphrase Inigo Montoya: Respected – you use that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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          • tamaratattles says

            January 30, 2022 at 3:55 pm

            Yes. I just responded to this above, in the wrong place. That about sums it up.

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        • IJC says

          January 31, 2022 at 11:14 am

          Oh please, do tell, what exactly does the koolaid taste like? I mean, is it citrus or berry flavored? Or is it more like a mixed fruit punch?

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          • Bombero says

            January 31, 2022 at 2:55 pm

            Oh boy… can we all just agree that Trump was awful, Biden is awful in his own right, and the state of our country, in general, is awful? That we ALL need to do better and respect each other? Sigh

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        • Ti Yershoo says

          January 31, 2022 at 4:07 pm

          Good lord.
          No, hun. The world first laughed then despised the self serving lgnorance trump displayed every time he opened his mouth.
          How many countries did you visit whilst that fluffy orange lunatic was sitting in the Oval Office ? Curious.
          Cuz I travel EXTENSIVELY. and I’m a talkative AF person. so I’ve had conversations with everyone from cab drivers to restaurant owners to actors to diplomats to owners of 5star hotels to vendors on the damn street. Hundreds, if not thousands, all across Europe. I INTENTIONALLY do not ever introduce politics.
          But man…. everyone else does
          And in 4 yrs, I have had two a persian driver in Frankfurt and a bellman in Edinburgh – express any level of adoration for your MADE IN CHINA redHat salesman.

          Two

          But do continue. Cuz this is my mountain, baby

          Ps .. Brian Kolfage & Steve Bannon were your ‘wall’ builders. Both were charged (pending ) with misappropriation of the funds you RedHat wearers sent in. Once called out, they threw up a teeny portion that has now collapsed.

          Sorry, Tamara. Please Delete if this crosses the line. But holy crap. OOAN, et Al will be the death of this nation.

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    • Deltalawgirl says

      February 3, 2022 at 11:12 am

      A to-the MEN

      Reply
  4. kdwagz says

    January 28, 2022 at 7:36 am

    I think Jennie was canceled over a post (or liking a post) about plowing down BLM protestors. She can be Republican and support the police, but took it a step way too far. Kristen and Stassi (also Jax) were caught reporting Faith to the police. That also crosses a very solid line, but maybe they just didn’t like faith. Still a shitty thing to do. I feel like the other two newbies were collateral damage. Going back to high school is reaching.

    Ramona, on the other hand, just seems like a harmless idiot. She is constantly choosing the wrong words– even benign ones. I have no doubt that she is a complete snob and asshole in real life, but that is a far cry from the Jennie and VPR situation. Mary Cosby seems like a Ramona to me with her bizarre slanted eyes “compliment” and mexican thug remark. She is a smarter idiot?

    Lee Anne Locken with the chirpy Mexican thing could have been spared the axe if the rest of the cast hadn’t been done with her IMO. It’s hard to rationalize her firing without taking the same action against Brandi Redmond, Kameron Wescott and her little husband.

    And what about the stew on below deck with her use of the N word? She was drunk and repeated the word, but she’s not a clueless Ramona. Agree that the cancel culture has gone way too far.

    I agree that most of these people should not be canceled with the exception of Jennie and the Stassi of it all. On the other hand, if we get a bunch of teaching moments like on the last season of NY with Ebony, there is plenty to watch besides Bravo.

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    • Sara says

      January 28, 2022 at 8:07 am

      Kristin and Stassi reported a black woman for a crime they KNEW she did not do. Given how well police treat persons of color, and how horrifically racist this was, they literally put an innocent woman’s life in danger. Literally. For what? A prank?

      Aside – you didn’t mention the concentration camp chic looks Stassi a
      Showcased. Over and over. Nazi chic was my personal favorite.

      This isn’t an innocent child. This s a grown woman.

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  5. Sunshine says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:04 am

    I don’t believe Ramona is a racist. She’s an entitled, obnoxious Mrs. Malaprops, but I don’t believe she even thinks about other people enough to form an opinion greater than haves and have nots. She’s a classist arriviste. She’s a very shallow and superficial woman, whose only real focus is on herself. As an aside, I’ve always found her totally cringeworthy until Ebony forced me to sympathize with her. #veryannoying

    Happy Friday!!

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    • Kruss says

      January 28, 2022 at 12:03 pm

      What a great word (arriviste)! I am going to start using it!

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    • Nanette says

      January 28, 2022 at 3:11 pm

      The Ramona hater in me thinks your words are much too beautiful and eloquent to describe Ramona. But the “know-it-all snob” in me believes that you have perfectly described her!

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    • Ktina says

      January 28, 2022 at 3:44 pm

      You’re right. I don’t think Ramona is a racist but she is very shallow and only thinks well of people who are well off.

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    • Wendy Robin Little says

      January 29, 2022 at 12:02 pm

      I truly believe that Ramona as brought up in a low class PWT (poor white trash) existence and for her people of another race/color were always beneath her because as she was growing up, she, her family were regarded as “low class/ trailer trash”. She speaks on the fact she made sure That is the problem with a lot of White Americans who grew up poor or not with a golden spoon in their mouths. They were teased in school (because they did not go to school with blacks/people of color), and they were the lower class.
      If you follow her Instagram she tries to be completely in the West Palm Beach, FL “society” but she doesn’t really fit in with the real class, real $$$. She really doesn’t know better.
      Her kind is slowly dying – and she really just needs to go away & not promoted – just like Kelly Dodd.

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      • Deltalawgirl says

        February 3, 2022 at 11:17 am

        This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for your point of view.

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  6. NancyintheSmokies says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:08 am

    I agree that they should be exposed rather than cancelled. I wasn’t sure how to put it until I read all of your post. This is supposed to be REALITY. Let them show us what assholes they are. Put their feet to the fire ON CAMERA. I cannot say I would miss Ramona. But she has been far and away the absolute worst when it comes to racial bias. She is the epitome of white privilege.

    I was surprised when they got rid of Jax for something he said/did in HS. And what about the felons? If they are going to be the moral compass (insert laughing emoji) then do it across the board. This is not a news show. It’s watching people be assholes or not.

    And they are finally adding Black and POC to their “white” shows. That’s what we need more of. When I was watching Project Runway last night, one the of the designers was saying that her mother made sure that she had dolls that reflected their color, but that her daughter would have dolls that reflected all colors and cultures. That got me to thinking that I have 4 granddaughters, and I am going to get them some baby dolls that are reflective of all colors. My parents were very inclusive, ya gotta teach em when they are young, I want to carry that on.

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  7. Smitters says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:11 am

    Rinna last weekend in her and Erikas photos- She and Harry’s Halloween costumes, her assuming a TMZ reporter was a gangster.
    She has repeatedly done things and its crickets.

    I think it sometimes comes down to who Andy likes.

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    • Randy says

      January 28, 2022 at 8:23 pm

      1000% true!
      Andy is willing to turn a blind eye to his favorites.

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      • tamaratattles says

        January 28, 2022 at 8:31 pm

        Y’all are killing me with all of your Andy comments. He has VERY little to do with who is hired and fired and that TINY BIT (he gets to share his opinion in a group chat with the SUITS who actually MAKE the decisions) is only for the housewives shows.

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  8. Ingrid says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:22 am

    Bravo purposely hires many crazy, irreverent entitled people . They are then shocked when these people say stupid shit. What amazes me is how people bite the hand that feeds them . Jennie could have gone on her whole life with those stupid, racist damaging thoughts, but she can’t STFU about it . Stupid. I hope this helps the bravo suits in their choices of cast members , all it takes is a quick search of their social media to see what is going on because these women don’t ever think they need to censure themselves , or care that their “indignation” hurts people. They can just clear the room and start over , but it can happen again and again .

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  9. memyselfandi says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:31 am

    I don’t watch reality TV to see well-behaved people who always do and say the right thing.
    Kind of the opposite.

    I would rather they show the racists screw up and let them face their comeuppance on air or at a reunion than just fire people over things from years ago.

    Bravo is definitely protecting Ramona though, perhaps because Andy loves her

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  10. Lisa says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:56 am

    This is not uniquely a Bravo problem. It’s a societal issue. While Bravo should not be supporting racism, firing anyone who’s offensive is a cop-out. Every single one of these people who got fired should come back and face the music. We want answers.

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    • Kate says

      January 28, 2022 at 11:08 am

      It’s a big problem everywhere in every industry-before social media we just didn’t know about it as easily

      I’m much more horrified at criminals exploiting vulnerable populations such as Erika Jayne. If Bravo continues to promote her as a star that’s a bigger problem to me

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      • Zalo says

        January 31, 2022 at 2:13 pm

        It tastes just like his old man nut sack. Just ask Lindsay Graham 🤣

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    • Sharon says

      January 29, 2022 at 10:54 am

      Absolutely 💯

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  11. Jananell Gibson says

    January 28, 2022 at 10:37 am

    Off topic (sorry). BUT Janet Jackson is on Friday at 8/7CT on Lifetime. Sooo excited.

    Don’t watch Bravo but you better bet I read TT every day first.

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    • Ktina says

      January 31, 2022 at 4:13 pm

      Meh. I watched it and got tired of her eyes not watering when she was pretending to cry. Not impressed at all.

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  12. IJC says

    January 28, 2022 at 12:24 pm

    I have mixed feelings about this. I mean DUH, yes they have a racism problem…there’s at least one on every show. And Ramona is unwatchable anymore because of her ummm fecal incontinence problem as much as her elitist and racist behaviors.

    My issue is that I don’t for a minute believe that Bravo doesn’t do background checks. One can make the same argument about the amount of felons, narcissists, homophobes, angry abusers, misogynists, quack “Doctors “, etc. they showcase. On the one hand, I want all the racists, felons, and other undesirables to show their asses for all to see, and I simultaneously feel like they shouldn’t be rewarded. No actual successful decent human would sign up to be on any of these shows.

    Not a fan of cancel culture-it’s random and unfair. Bravo isn’t consistent in their cancellation of their “talent “ and it’s reflective of the cancel culture overall. If it were consistent IRL then Trump would be canceled and we’d all be better off.

    Andy is a problem, too. His 15 minutes should’ve been up loooong ago. He has zero talent. And he’s a misogynist. It’s not by accident his stupid show is tacked onto the (insert bravo shitshow here). If he doesn’t have executive powers anymore, why is he given favoritism? I digress.

    I’m honestly just over the whole reality tv genre since it’s all scripted and it’s lost authenticity across the board-with the exception of the competition shows like survivor and TAR. MTV was groundbreaking with the real world, it be defined society in ways: example Pedro, opened minds to bring attention to an actual societal issue. These devolved cousins of those early authentic informative shows are not serving any positives that I’m aware of.

    So, I guess my point is that I think the network itself is culpable for promoting racists and felons and quack physicians, and just SHIT PEOPLE. The fact that these shows all have ratings high enough to be profitable just adds to the dumbing down of America. I mean people still watch Dr. Phil & think he’s a medical doctor..might as well bring Jerry Springer back!

    All that said-I’m evidently having trouble communicating my actual point here. It’s just that the exploitation lines the pockets of a ton of assholes who don’t deserve a platform. Bravo has been circling the drain for a long time so hopefully all of this will be moot sooner than later when they go bankrupt.

    ~deep thoughts by IJC 😂

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    • LuVoss says

      January 29, 2022 at 6:42 pm

      Love everything you said. And you are not having trouble communnicating. You’re a great communicator. You spoke directly to my heart! Thank you.

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      • IJC says

        January 31, 2022 at 10:57 am

        Thanks for this, LuVoss. I feel like something’s happened to my brain where I can’t express myself as succinctly and concisely as I used to be able to. I feel like I’m talking in circles and leaving walls of words when I comment lately. Idk if it’s aging or just being isolated for years on end. I’m glad someone could make sense of my jabbering, lol!

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    • Zalo says

      January 31, 2022 at 2:25 pm

      Sunshine, you have described Ramona to a T. H Her self absorption has completely blinded her. It’s not racism per we but abject classism.

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  13. Saga says

    January 28, 2022 at 12:44 pm

    I still don’t forgive Bravo for cutting Kenya’s Native costume (which was undoubtedly in poor taste) out of the Halloween episode and making a disclaimer, but not keeping that same energy across other series’ when their stars say the N word or dress in practically blackface

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  14. Terri says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Ramona has gone from entertaining to strange to cringe worthy over the years. She should have been removed from the cast a long time ago. I wouldn’t consider that cancel culture, I consider it consequence culture. The racism and homophobia on these shows has to be dealt with, Cast members shouldn’t continue to benefit financially when their mistreatment of people is so obvious. I agree that going all the way back to high school social media posts is a bit extreme. The new guys they fired from Vanderpump Rules have probably grown a lot since their high school days. Jennie’s posts, however, were from just 2 years ago and they showed us who she really is.

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  15. JoJoFLL says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:31 pm

    I can’t stand Ramona.

    She makes white women of a certain age look ignorant and racist.

    She needs to go.

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  16. T D says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:39 pm

    Exposed opposed to cancelled a voyeuristic view is it not?

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  17. Nat says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    Ramona always gets a pass. They use the words crazy, kookie, elitist, no filter, rude, apparently she has a language issue . Call it for what it is, racist. I was hoping that after last season with Ebony and that cringe worthy Shabbat dinner that Ramona’s feet would finally be held to the fire. Sadly, it didn’t happened. The Bravo suits didn’t have the cojones to even have a reunion and call her out. I don’t think Ramona should be fired. Why not have a new season and instead of using excuses and poo pooing her behavior, meet it head on. Ebony called her out, filed a complaint, and Bravo folded up like a cheap shirt, almost bringing the franchise to a permanent demise.
    Meanwhile, crooks like Teresa continues to be her despicable self, never missing a beat with her tacky excesses and threatening anyone who dares not to worship at the felon alter of Teresa. It seems that Erik may be the next Bravo felon to profit from her thieving ways.
    You lie, steal, cheat, and spew racist rhetoric, and get away with it, but heaven forbid you become too preachy like Ebony, or racist behavior is officially called out, that will cause the franchise to end up in the abyss.

    .

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  18. Hannah says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:56 pm

    I think bravo deliberately chooses people that have controversial backgrounds so they can get publicity. It is so unfortunate that people with these types of backgrounds can become famous. it’s like the excuse for bad behavior. not gonna watch their shows that have these type of people on them anymore.

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  19. Nanette says

    January 28, 2022 at 3:22 pm

    There is one sure-fire way to send a message to Bravo — DON’T WATCH THE SHOWS THAT OFFEND YOU.

    As the saying goes: Money talks, bullshit walks.

    — says the person who has BraNO and still watches Bravo! (The BraNO was about Nene Leakes and I still have not watched an episode of RHOA since ClosetGate.)

    My new “most hated” is Porsha. Using her family tree and BLM for a storyline is like seeing a person stuff things in their pockets (shoplifting), treat a cashier like crap, then get into their mom van with a Christian fish bumper sticker — THE WORST!

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  20. Ti Yershoo says

    January 28, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    there is a huge difference between arrogance : ignorance and racism
    Ramona is a self centered loon who thinks her hard work & brilliance (yawn) has given her a place above all other mere mortals. & the energy required to treat the world as anything BUT lowly worker bees simply is not something she cares to expend.

    Jenny Nguyen, on the other hand, is tip-to-toe hatefilled racist.

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  21. Samaraohara says

    January 29, 2022 at 12:21 pm

    BRAVO has an asshole problem. Racists, cultists, frauds, narcissists. The viewers also have an asshole problem – we support it by watching it.

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  22. BostonGal says

    January 29, 2022 at 1:00 pm

    It seems like Bravo goes solely the way of the court of public opinion and their inconsistency is a reflection of some of the discrepancies in popular response. They let the drama run “oh so long” to determine whether there could be any viewership and/or advertising fallout, and pull the plug at the signs once they catch wind that it could be the outcome.

    I think the distinction with RHONY is that they are in a lose lose. While I have heard a lot of outcry against Ramona amongst people with a more public presence (celebs, etc), the reaction on forums seems to be a bit more split. I think there are also complicated feelings about MANY members of the RHONY cast, and there are several of them that I am personally not interested in watching again, even those with whom I may share political and social ideologies. If they keep Ramona, they have a problem. If they get rid of Ramona, they may also have a problem. If I were a betting person, I’d guess they are trying to see if the Ramona buzz will eventually die down. The cynic in me almost wonders if they offered Jennie up as a way of keeping Ramona, like “see how much WORSE Ramona could be?? At least she didn’t say THAT”. I rewatched all seasons of RHONY earlier in the pandemic and, my God has that show been a problematic dumpster fire from the start. Possibly the worst of all of the franchises?

    For my part, I don’t know what the answer is. I don’t want to watch racists on tv and I don’t want to know that my viewership is earning them money. I also don’t think I want to watch them (or have them get paid to) “do the work” to grow on the show, and I am not confident these shows would ever be the appropriate vehicle for legitimate anti racism work. Social media has become the veritable apple in the garden of Eden, and we can no longer unsee those pesky little things we used to pretend to not know about each other, like that our neighbor is a raging racist or our great aunt is a homophobe. It’s great because we are held accountable. It’s awful because we are held accountable. I don’t know where a tv genre that works by casting over the top, ridiculous and sometimes terrible people continues to fit in that space when the harsh reality is that terrible people are usually terrible in ways we really don’t like.

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  23. Margaret B says

    January 30, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    I dislike all forms of racism. My father was born(1935) in the south. But I never once hear him say a racist word. We moved to the south when I was 10yrs old and I had to ask my Dad why some people used those words. He was so wise with his words. He told me later in life that it was so tough on him to have to explain it to his little girl. He is still my hero!

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  24. Larry says

    January 30, 2022 at 4:37 pm

    Reality TV in general has a racism problem. The thing bothering me the most right now is Loni Love popping up on Drag Race after her comments about how a mixed race person wasn’t really Black, followed by a non apology. I’m mixed, it echoes things I’ve heard throughout my life (like my Dad isn’t Black because he married a Jewish woman), I know firsthand that it’s damaging, but nobody else really cares. Makes it harder for me to keep caring about others and what offends them.

    Point is, it’s not just Bravo. Cooking shows fault people for not cooking food reflective of their assumed heritage. Drag Race almost requires some contestants to be old school minstrels to succed. A lot of shows still rely on an Angry Black Woman stereotype to create a villain. It’s all a problem, because people still believe this stuff is real.

    I think Bravos contribution to the situation won’t be a problem much longer, because their shows seem to be dying. Plus, at least they gave me Garcelle, Crystal, Sutton, and Kathy Hilton having an actual grown up conversation. If they could do more of that, I’d prefer that to canceling everyone. We’re all flawed, and I think we need to create room for people to learn and demonstrate growth.

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    • tamaratattles says

      January 30, 2022 at 8:06 pm

      Wow. I’m shocked by Loni Love. Did she say it on The Real? I watch and I’ve never heard that. I also feel like the other women would have called her out…

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  25. Nina says

    February 1, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    I’m glad to see this as a topic! Bravo absolutely loves to to pick and choose when they care about racism. Best example is Below Deck. They completely edited a deckhand out of a recent season of Below Deck Med for having shared a racist meme but when the chief stew casually threw the n word out this season, it’s a plot point?
    If Bravo was taking this seriously, production should have gotten her swiftly fired. I felt horrible for Rayna this entire season. She was made to feel very uncomfortable, confronted the offender very politely, and then instead of proper action being taken she was just a punch bowl for everyone’s white guilt. Not only did Eddie completely mishandle the situation in every aspect, but he kept trying to get her to say she was happy and okay instead of being like “you’re uncomfortable for a good reason and if that affects your attitude it’s understandable.” If that chief stew comes back it will be very telling of what Bravo really cares about. Either way this season is a shining example of why it’s so hard for people of color to speak up for themselves in white industries.

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