Hey y’all sorry for the delay RHOBH recap. Last night was kind of a rough one. I’m under the weather and this maybe a big of a short one. We’re back with Erika sobbing in the bathroom. No one is in the mood for tacos anymore. I for one am buying Erika’s crying fit. I don’t believe a word she says but I do believe the crying. Rinna comforts Erika and says “I’m sorry that happened, that’s fucked up.” And Garcelle says she is leaving. I don’t blame her. I think she should leave. Everyone is acting like she murdered someone. Kathy convinces her to stay. Garcelle and Erika cry and hug it out. Sutton’s brain is working overtime. She isn’t sure Erika is being honest. Rinna is coming for Garcelle. Then, Erika goes home early.
Garcelle begins to realize that she is being iced out by the Fox Force Five. The girls get all gussied up for take-out dinner. Dorit wears a see-though jumpsuit. Sutton whips out the vintage Cartier. Rinna keeps coming for Garcelle. Garcelle is all the way over Rinna. At the dinner table, they are going to play a game. This never goes well. Somehow we are going to talk about people who say they don’t see color. Apparently, this is something Michael Jackson said to Kathy Hilton. Dorit starts talking about all the POC who work for her. After dinner, Dorit wants to know why no one is there to do their dishes. She dressed for dinner, not for dishes. Rinna breaks the tension by showing the ladies a photo of Harry Hamlin’s acrylic nails. Apparently he uses them to play the guitar.
Erika’s Involvement Is Revealed
The next morning there is a new story on the LA Times about Tom and Erika. They learn about all the many victims that Tom is accused of stealing from. They also find out that at that point $20 million dollars in victim funds was funneled into Erika Jayne’s business accounts. Last I heard, that number has gone up to $36 million. Sutton has to explain the article to Rinna and Kyle because it was too long for them to read. Sutton is the smartest person in the room. The women all head back to Beverly Hills. They relate the news to their husbands.
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Sutton wants to get everyone together without Erika and talk. So, they meet for drinks at Dorit’s house. Erika Jayne has posted some really old texts between Tom and I believe she is a judge of some sort. They were having sexual conversations. Again, I don’t believe for a minute that Erika cared about that. I believe they had an arrangement. Garcelle finds it curious that Erika told her that she wasn’t aware of any third party in the marriage on Tom’s end. Sutton arrives and announces that she has a lot of concerns with Erika’s story. And she questions whether it is smart for her to even be around Erika.
Next week: The ladies confront Erika. I think that is the dinner where she threatens Sutton.
Think Lisa is got an arrangement with EJ. Maybe EJ gave her money for her lip line. If that is the case, then Lisa has to give her money back. Lisa doesn’t do anything that isn’t to her advantage.
Did you watch WWHL after when she said she learned her lesson from Denise, yeah right!! Of course she will come out and defend Erica, they all want to keep their money!!
I was just watching a preview for the big show when EJ asks the girls if they are afraid of her, what a stupid question. It’s amazing she still wants to come off as the scary cold hearted witch. Anyway what I saw it this upcoming show is after she asks this of Sutton, who I believe said no, Rinna had to chime in once again, and say whatever it is that Sutton either said or how she felt, when they had this secret meeting, so once again Rinna is stirring the pot, and trying to throw someone else in the frying pan, Rinna can’t speak for herself she always has to drag someone else in and cause trouble for that person. I’m really not liking Rinna, every season she does something, so what does she want Sutton off the show? or does she just want them to get in the ring with EJ.
Rinna is so desperate for attention I almost feel sorry for her. My theory is her husband is in his own world so she’s on her own to find supply to feed her never-ending ego. She’s exhausting. Let her fight for EJ, she’ll just go down with her. I think there’s no way EJ is going to avoid jail time or serious consequences.
I’m 50/50 about Erika’s chances of going to prison. I think Tom will avoid prison because of his alleged “mental state.” I think Erika will be left on the hook for most ALL of the stolen funds.
It’s expensive to be her.
Garcelle is right on, the Fox blah blah 5 are trying to push them out, and go back to their bunch, looks like Crystal is a fence walker in this story. As much as I hated Lisa, they did it to her and to Denise. They know this method will give them what they want, but now we have a new rulebook that even these bitches can’t crack. Please keep questioning Garcelle and Sutton, my two new favorites!! You come for Sutton EJ, for what slander because she believes the mounds of evidences coming forward versus the stupid story Erica is trying to spin. Rinna, so over it, I guess 5million is her price. Oh Harry just buy finger picks.
Erica is a criminal, period! What she and Tom did was a lot worse than Joe and Teresa’s shenanigins. EJ needs to be fired.
Agreed!
I also agree!!
Garcelle was totallly out of line asking Erica a barrage of questions to Erica. Who would ask did you get any money, do you talk to Tom, did you know about it, etc ON CAMERA. If nothing else, it is rude. Just like she asked on camera to Sutton where did you get your money. Garcelle doesnt respect privacy and boundaries. Very nosey lady.
Now the bravo tapes will be used in court.
I am team Erica all the way. She is broken and needs a soft shoulder to land on. The truth hasnt come out yet. If Toms lawers and partners didnt know about Toms shenanigans, why would Erica.
Agreed.
But is it Garcelle’s responsibility to protect Erika from incriminating herself in her “alleged” crimes? Are the other housewives her directors and producers in this drama and in charge of helping to shield a criminal? Could a hesitancy to call a spade a spade or at least ask if the spade is even a card make the housewives look complicit? They had no legal duty to disclose Erika’s “alleged” perfidy if they KNEW of it, but it SURE WOULD LOOK BAD IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION IF THEY DID. If what is alleged is true, then Tom is the person who should be punished for the crime. However, if Erika new before, during or afterwards she has some culpability too. OH, and to answer your last question. It DOESN’T MATTER if Erika knew the ill-gotten funds put in her account were from….she is STILL CULPABLE whether ignorant of their origins or not. IF she is the head of her company she SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. All in all I like Erika and hope all this goes her way but blaming Garcelle for this last incident is ridiculous and somewhat unintelligent being that it came out THE VERY NEXT DAY that Erika was lying to them. But hey…..y’all continue to stan for Erika. I’m sure she stans for you. (HA)
Exact-a-moondo! The money EJ LLC got from Tom’s firm was called a loan but Erika NEVER MADE A SINGLE PAYMENT to payback the loan AND Tom’s firm has no records that show imonthly interest or principle or payments.
Erika is going to prison.
No, she isn’t, not for defaulting on a loan anyway. We don’t send people to prison for defaulting on loans or credit problems. The fact that she hasn’t retained criminal defense attorneys to me says a lot. She’s in a serious financial bind but no criminal charges have been brought, and from everything leaked in the press, seems there aren’t any on the horizon yet.
Lynne, I did not say defaulting on a loan was criminal. The 20 million from Tom which he embezzled from his company, was given to EJ as a loan but EJ never treated the money like a loan. That’s FRAUD. She’s going to prison. The charges will come. The only reason authorities have not pounced on That m and Erika is because of WHITE PRIVILEGE.
Commingling money from a client or due to your client
is illegal. Rules of Professional Conduct 1.15.
Duh.
The whole “loan” thing is in and of itself bizarre. Law firms are not in the loan business. Let alone for TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS. Does that not cause a red flag? It’s going to be a criminal offense at some point. I can’t believe there is any doubt about that. It was not a loan, it was an embezzlement.
If EJ wants that much protection in her conversations on camera, she should have skipped this season. Garcelle is asking the stuff viewers want to ask!
100%
Have backing that horse….I get perhaps to wait for more facts but thus far…pretty grim. Plus I heard there is a picture of EJ at her home in La Quinta getting ready for Coachella….hmmm.
Have fun backing that horse….Erika! I get perhaps to wait for more facts but thus far…pretty grim. And doesn’t include how she has behaved completely disconnected from this mess. Plus I heard there is a picture of EJ at her home in La Quinta getting ready for Coachella….hmmm.
Totally with u!
Absolutely!
Erika is Innocent until proven guilty. There was a big power imbalance in her relationship with Tom. She may have known they were having financial problems but who comes home and says, “honey, I stole another $25m from my clients.”
With all due respect…we know nothing of their relationship arrangement other than it seemed less than traditional at best. The shenanigans started after their relationship though 🧐 Tom certainly seems guilty and thus far EJ’s rental & legal fees (per RR I believe) are being paid for I believe by some other party so…you have to wonder what does she know? And for Some odd reason Tom is still allowed to reside in his mansion while clients/victims are far from whole. It’s horrible.
I’m not sure that Tom is still living in the house. They are repeatedly slashing the price to try to liquidate assets. He also has a caregiver so I feel like he has probably been relocated.
Last I read he is living in the house which is making it hard to sell. He has all his personal belongings there and doesn’t care if it’s cleaned for any showings. He doesn’t leave the house during the showings either.
well that sounds like a either a cognizant person who is refusing to leave, or someone with Alzheimer’s. A hard call.
Who has their husband unexpectedly deposit $20 million into her LLC and not say, Gee honey! Thanks for the $20 million! What is that about! When he is all over the news being sued buy multiple people for non-payment?
Erika has already been proven guilty. She is responsible for over $36 million dollars hidden in her accounts. It doesn’t matter if she lost a tooth and got it from the tooth fairy. She is responsible for returning the money to the victims.
This is exactly the truth!
That’s exactly what Sutton said. “If the devil himself puts $$$ in your LLC, YOU are responsible for it. I’m not on the fence anymore. EJ is responsible for the money. Geez, that only took me what, 12 episodes? Now it’s clear.
Tamara, you were right. Duh.
Well lol if she got any money or “consideration “ ( like paying her bills ) into her company, then she would need to pay that back no? I mean she can’t really think that’s a gift just because he was allegedly cheating on her 15 years ago. Lawyers are shifty they know how to hide stuff so……. The best we can hope for the victims is that someone who works gets their wages garnished at the very least. Of course there always is total liquidation too. One can only hope because from where I’m seated someone looks awfully complicit.
Joe and Teresa are liars, pre meditation, trying to avoid the taxes We all pay.
This is a huge No no. You don’t F around with the IRS.
As messed up as this is going to sound, it’s true. Tom is a very VERY successful attorney.
If he hadn’t WON all that money, for those clients, then there wouldn’t be any money to have been embezzled.
That is looked at as a civil matter ,
much less criminal than stealing from the US government.
Oh honey, the IRS is what will probably get them prison time. We haven’t gotten to that part of the story just yet.
Agreed.
Allegedly, Instead of giving the settlement money to the rightful owners, the victims, he used the money for himself. In using THEIR settlement money, did he claim it as income? Did he pay taxes on the money he took from the client account?
Is the loan from the law firm to EJ on her books as a payable? Is all the accounting in her bookkeeping and financials accurate? I can see the potential for discrepancies.
I’m sure the IRS’s involvement is still yet to come. And possibly a criminal suit for one or both of them after all the evidence is accumulated. In any case, early cooperation can be beneficial and we are not seeing that here.
No. If they got away with robbing a bank he(THEY) would not claim that as taxable income.
HOWEVER. To be on Erika’s side for a minute she would have nothing to do with Tom’s legal fees regarding taxes because that was his “business income.” OTOH, Erica may be responsible for it if it was a joint filing and she probably would not have paid attention to that. If I had ANYONE on earth to do my taxes, I wouldn’t even glance at it. It makes me nervous. I literally overpaid ALOT for last year. And still no refund.
But is Tom has Alzheimer’s or convinces them that he does, SHE is responsible for that too.
Now you have me thinking!
If a person is found guilty of robbing a bank, spends all the $ so there is nothing to return, the IRS can’t go after them for income taxes? Lol, does the money fall under the gift tax exclusion?
It’s embezzlement. You are not legally allowed to move funds from your business to your or your family’s accounts.
Since he moved it to a business account as a “loan” and it was money from a trust, it’s also laundering. They haven’t even gotten to the Federal or State charges yet. But, they’re coming. Erika and Tom evaded taxes and stole millions. That is not a “civil” charge. The victims are suing for their money. Lawyers, who were never paid, are suing for their money.
nailed it .
I was wondering if the salary she makes from
bravo goes to the victims?
I think the Garcelle thing was producers completely Erika didn’t want that information shared and the producers made sure Garcelle didn’t know that. It was a set up
Acrylic nails is how Caitlyn Jenner first began in public. IJS
You just broke my heart…..
That’s actually the first thing I thought as well
Don’t be ridiculous. Bruce got a tracheal shave first. I reported here that he was transitioning. There is no medical reason to get a tracheal shave. No one believed me.
https://tamaratattles.com/2013/12/13/khloe-kardashian-files-for-divorce-bruce-jenner-is-getting-a-gender-reassignment-surgery/
Harry plays the guitar. He old and he doesn’t give a fuck what anyone thinks.
TT, don’t assume everyone doesn’t believe your reporting…I for one find you to be a very credible source who has credible sources. I only just started commenting…but faithful reader for a while, even though we disagree at times.
Thanks Sabrina. The Bruce Jenner sex change was a lot for people to take in at the time. 🙂
PS I’m still waiting for my source on some RHOA things. Source has been out of pocket this weekend.
Dorit’s comment about being dressed for dinner, not for dishes brought out my bitch face. Imitation may be the best form of flattery but it’s not a good look on Dorit. Erika came on the show with a glam squad & Dorit followed suit, and she certainly could could not afford it. I think she tries to dress like Erika. Now, Kathy is on and the group is talking about Kathy being so used to being served because she lived at the Waldorf. so now Dorit needs service. She’s too good to rinse a plate and place it in a dishwasher. Give me a break!
You are so right, trying to be like Erica and now Kathy. Biggest phony ever. If I have to hear her, “HIII, BAYBEE” one more time….
Different note, cracks me up that no matter what anyone walks in the door wearing, everyone’s like “Oh, you look cuuute” lol.
The only 2 I like are Garcelle and Sutton. Sutton knows her stuff and Garcelle has a good heart. Even Crystal was normal. Dorit is useless, bring your damn plate to the sink you wanna-be. Rinna should get a job at the circus as the barker and Kyle can’t make up her mind yet. Erika is a walking time bomb. I like Kathy. Dorit looked like a hooker. How desperate is that one?? OMG,how can these women not know what
involuntary bankruptcy means…
Me too! Me too!! They’re the only ones I can stand anymore. And EJ is a full-on criminal. She could not care less about anyone but her own miserable self.
I don’t mind Sutton but I think you’re giving her too much credit. She’s being a complete hypocrite! When she got a divorce she had no idea that she was a part owner in a major league baseball team and owner of several properties around the country. She’s just lucky that everything turned out ok for her but she could’ve been in the same position as Erika.
The difference between the two is that Sutton wasn’t aware she was part owner of the business and properties because she had no active interest in running them. Erika has received 20 million to her own business/LLC which she runs from her husband.
Agree. I think she found out that she and her DH owned the teams, thus entitling her to half their value. Totally different from someone putting 20 million in a bank account with her name on it. She was just learning about the extent of the community property.
Yes totally different and that the money that went into Erica‘s account was the money that Tom stole from his clients.
The money she’s desperately trying to hang onto even though she knows that it belongs to the clients. They the victims.
I don’t think she was running it, Tom was running it. If you look at the paperwork all the legal documents went to his office in Beverly Hills and he was the agent for service of process. My point is that Sutton is very critical of what Erika did and didn’t know. People trust other people to run their business all the time and screwed over. Erika trusted her husband to run hers. In the end, it turns out it was a bad decision. I’m just saying if Sutton could be the part owner of a major league baseball team which would have cost closer to a billion dollars and probably required her to sign some kind of paperwork, why would she be so critical of Erika for not knowing everything about the LLC that Tom created.
Like Sutton said your attorney is present when the company is created Erica had to be there to sign in the presence of her attorney she’s also opened up a second LLC since she divorced Tom. All by herself. Well without Tom.
I love Sutton all day long…a girl’s girl for sure. However, I opened my LLC on line with IRS forms etc. obtained my Tax EIN…no lawyer needed. I did have to physically go to bank with paperwork from IRS in hand etc & opened that LLC bank account. You’re going to tell me she NEVER checked the balance in the account? There is so much cover up and “stories” from EJ are painting a very ugly picture of her.
Erika has MULTIPLE LLCs in her name. She would have to sign up for that and know about them in an attorney’s office. Setting up an LLC is not something Tom would really be handling. I’m sure she had her own attorney for that. Also, she setup YET ANOTHER ONE after she filed for divorce.
I know someone who is a colleague/ in the same business as Sutton’s ex. They are both VERY VERY wealthy. Sutton was a socialite whose parties were legendary and she made the same lists as Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama on the sites that rate and discuss fancy dinner parties. She did (does?) a ton of stuff for charities. They were married for 16 years and he made a lot of investments during the marriage.
It is very different for Sutton to learn about all of her ex husbands assets during forensics of the divorce and Erika having her own LLCs where her husband was depositing tens and million of stolen dollars.
Tom did not “run Erika’s business”. Tom funded Erika’s music tours. Tom did not create her LLCs. Tom FUNDED her LLCs. And Erika had a legitimate title of some sort at Girardi Keese.
Fun fact, Girardi Keese is having an online bankruptcy auction right now as they try to recover assets for the victims.
Sutton’s divorce and Erika’s divorce have ZERO in common other than the both dissolved a marriage.
Exactly. And good point regarding Tom not leaving the house reflects his mental state. EJ was singing his praises until this weird arrangement gig was up…I’m sure this is and will continue to be an extensive investigation. It should reveal among many many things all the transfers and when etc. who made them, at who’s direction and most important…when.
I think that Erika’s lie about not knowing how banks work was ridiculous and the dumbest lie to try to cover her tracks I’ve ever heard.
I know right. She was 27-28 yrs with a young child when they met, lived in NY/NJ moved to LA…huh? All know is people who have nothing to hide…hide nothing.
Erika worked as Tom’s legal secretary. She SIGNED the loan documents.
Sutton hired a financial forensic team. Erika is hiding things from the forensic team. Sutton gave her sound divorce advice, but Erika dudn’t like it because Sutton was telling her, they are going to find ALL the money.
Spot on. My face fell when Sutton said that and then turned around and criticized Erika for not know how her business was run. Form what we were shown and what little I know about the business some of those artists really are clueless as to what goes on in the books. They just play dress up and sing the songs wrote for them. Not a new concept
Exactly what I thought. It’s easy for Sutton to be all opinionated but she did not know the source of her assets.
The source of the maritial assets were legitimate investments. Her husband was a
banker with lots of investments. That’s how he made his millions. He’s far from bankrupt and has never participated in criminal activity. Did she know all the investments nope. But I bet she knew how much money they had invested. It’s not like he would say he bought soy beans and corn on Tuesday or invested in a baseball team on Friday. That’s not how investing works.
Tom was STEALING money.
Exactly Tamara! I don’t always agree with you but you are spot on with your analysis. Ronald Richards has all of the court and tax return documents from Girardi Keese to back up his statements on Twitter proving her complicity. If Erika was truly innocent in this Ponzi scheme then all she has to do was release a general statement of sympathy for the victims and return as much of the 35 million that is left of their stolen money. She would have garnered much more sympathy from the viewers. Instead she mocks them on her sleazy Instagram account.
I don’t think next episode is the one where Erika snaps at Sutton in the season preview… she was wearing white with a ponytail in that scene… in the preview for next week she is in black with hair down and a headband. Either way, great recap Tamara and I agree with everything you said! Rinna and EJ are awful… and Rinna on WWHL was downright cringeworthy… dressed like Elton John meets the Riddler with big tinted sunglasses indoors at night and acting all spastic. I think she and Andy snorted some good stuff before going live or something. She creeps me out!
good call . and have a feeling it will not be for a while that Erica is back . she knows she has been busted.
“Elton John meets the Riddler” what a great line! Keep ’em coming! 🙂
It was “Elton John meets the Riddler” for me. YOU WIN!!!!
SO GOOD to see others catching on to who Rinna really is. Waaay back when I really liked her, but that has not been true for years now. She’s JUST a hustler and not much more. IMO.
I still love her.
One of the many reasons I dislike her is her reference is that overweight women shouldn’t be wearing her clothes on the shopping channel where she hawks her wares.
Excellent recap. Everything is spot on!!!
The jury is still out with me with with Erika.
That attorney guy made a good point when he said no record company is investigating millions of dollars on a questionably talented forty something year old.
Why would Tom Gerardi invest millions of dollars in EJ singing career? What does he possibly get out of it?
Didn’t she say a bunch of her songs were #1 hits on the dance charts?
Did this cover any expenses?
I’m siding with Sutton on staying far away until this is over or at the very least, more clear.
He started the company to funnel money and to assuage Erika’s ego and fantasy. At least when Harvey Weinstein invested in Georgina’s design company, she (and her partner) had real talent.
Next time, Kyle invites Dorit to dinner, she should serve her on fucking paper plates and Solo cups!
I agree with you 100 per cent TT , as far as the crying /lying goes. I do not believe her either but I do believe the crying is real. It just isn’t real for the reason these women think it is in my opinion. I believe she is terrified of going to jail, I believe she is dumbfounded that she has been shamed in front of the whole country, I believe she does not know what to do and she was mortified that she let her guard down and was heard saying Tom called her every day. The stress of being her must be overwhelming and she would have to be dead for it not to get to her on some level. So….yeah, I think the crying is real. She is sobbing.
On a lighter note, where has Kathy Hilton been? She is what every single one of these franchises need. She is hysterical and the very reason these shows were created. If Erica really wants to know what it means not to give a F**k then watch Kathy, if Erica wants to know what it is like to be fabulous and expensive watch Kathy. These other women are posers.
You’re right TT, Sutton is the smartest one in the room! I cannot stand the way Rinna is treating Garcelle, it makes me sick. Props to Krystal for repeating (countless times) that Garcelle didn’t hear EJ say she didn’t want to talk about Tom calling her, OF COURSE TOM CALLS HER!
Definitely made Crystal someone I might be able to tolerate IRL. She’s had a rough start but I’m a big fan of truth telling and not manufactured rage.
BeeSmart, I don’t like Crystal but at first I thought how great that she backed Garcelle, but then I thought, why didn’t she say anything when Erika was needlessly going at Garcelle?? Back to not being a fan of Crystal’s.
Sutton & Garcelle for the win. All day. Every day.
Lisa Rinna is cunt! Period!
Say it how it is CaliSteve! I so agree she annoys the fuck out of me and I really wish she’d eat the hamburger bun… just once ! Please eat some carbs and then maybe she can read a news article without Sutton’s help.
I had determined not to watch this episode. However, the ethereal goddess Dorit in a see-through jumpsuit trumps anything else I might do with my time.
Luggage! I think not.
Erika is wicked in the Luciferian sense.
You just know that Erika knew the LA Times article was going to hit the paper and that’s why she left La Quinta. I’m back to liking Sutton and I’m thrilled that Garcelle is a Housewife. I really want Kyle to wake up and realize that Erika isn’t some innocent little thing. Rinna is useless and I would love it if this is her last season on the show.
Yes yes yes. This. Exactly. Erika definitely got the heads up the article was coming out via text message or email and at the very next scene she pitched a fit over Garcelle repeating what she said about Tom calling her and she highlighted it outta there. Her meltdown wasn’t over anything Garcelle said. Those were real, genuine tears because she knew the cover was blown and she was publicly associated with this financial matter. Garcelle and Sutton are the brightest women in the room because they’re not falling for these bizarre lies coming out of Erika’s mouth.
Thats exactly what happened she probably got a summary of the article ahead of time and needed production to excuse her. They created this ridiculous story targeting Garcelle
The crying was real. She’s a true sociopath.
The LA times probably called Erika’s people to see if she wanted to comment on the story being printed! So Erika knew it was coming out and the cameras would be there! Over the years I always questioned how any lawyer is THAT rich… to afford two planes(which we now learn he didn’t own), houses, and 40k a month glam squad.. lawyers make a lot but to me it didn’t make sense! Well now we know he didn’t make that money. What I still don’t get is I was involved with a lawsuit and won over 200k and my lawyer wrote the check the day it settled and had my money within a couple days…!! How the victims waited so long to go after him is mind boggling! I would be at his office everyday demanding my money! It’s public record when a case settles, I get the Lion air crash victims who weren’t local but the others… ? You reap what you sew Erika and karma is coming for you… ! Hope these victims get their money!!!
Gloria Allred took a 40% cut of Rachel Ucitel’s hush money from Tiger Woods, plus she represented several other women who hooked up with him. Lawyers can earn that kind of money, Tom got lots of business from his Erin Brockovich fame. He got greedy
Tom’s law firm got settlements in the $100 millions. Assuming they were contingency cases and they were owed their 30-40% for their attorney fees, Tom definitely would’ve been making that kind of money. When you make $160,000,000 on one case, $480,000 on glam for your trophy wife is just a drop in the bucket.
I hear what you are saying, but where on earth did the money then!
I hear what you are saying, but where on earth did the money go!!
Yes but those fees collected are to cover the firm expenses (payroll etc.) and evidentially..EJ’s gig
They aren’t just the brightest…they are genuine and real…refreshing. Have real honest, no harm intended, questions. What’s the problem. People who have nothing to hide…hide NOTHING.
I’d like to see the fight Erika had w production! That would be great TV!
Agreed…but I guess that would truly expose the people behind the curtain.
They should still show it.
They have broken the fourth wall before.
When Nene Leakes had a physical altercation with cast and the cameraman because her friends were going to look at her closet without her permission.
When Denise Richards kept saying “Bravo Bravo Bravo” as a means to stop filming/make the footage unusable.
Michael on Potomac apologizing to a cameraman for grabbing his ass (we just got audio, not visual).
I can’t remember who it was, but there was someone whom production members talked to asking her to come back into the house.
Did anyone watch WWHL with Lisa Rinna? I found her to be a bit hostile and on edge, no? The glasses, Andy Cohen made her take them off, the excessive cussing, etc…
And the way she kept watching herself on the tv screen while on camera especially when she thought it wasn’t noticeable bc she had sunglasses on. She is full on playing it up. She doesn’t seem not to know how to be genuine anymore. Like she killed any real natural emotion and can’t summon it anymore.
Agreed re: Rinna on WWHL, and when she answered a viewer question about Denise versus Erika and how Rinna treated D so much worse than E now, she answered very arrogant.
She was BIZARRE!!!! Was she high?
We can’t get WWHL in Canada….arggggh
Try Youtube!
I think she is just naturally Bizarre…obnoxious woman.
Erika was desperately trying to deflect from the LA Times article and Garcelle was the sacrificial lamb. Rinna was more than eager to pile on. Her hypocrisy has no bounds.
Sutton is slick, and she knows that there is a strong possibility that Bravo, including the housewives could be hauled into court to be deposed.
Bravo production is doing a hit job on Erika by exposing her lies and over the top lifestyle.
Dorit giving me shades of of Kelly Osbourne on “The View”, black/brown people are wonderful! They clean our toilets. Dimwit.
Oh Dorit made me throw up in my mouth a little. What an arrogant fool. Also, she wanted to pile on Garcelle back when this first was discussed by saying “If someone doesn’t want to discuss something etc.” but she got shut down. Thirst little phony.
And Dorit said something to Garcelle about maybe she was trying to needle her a little bit. So rude!
I’m so over Kathy “innocently” bringing up past issues to start a new fight again. First it was the peeping Tom Tomasina stuff and last night it was not seeing color stupid statement. It seems she really has her sights sets on Sutton, even though she acts like she’s joking/defending her. Also using what MJ said about not seeing color? Really?? I can’t with her and her fake dumb act.
You are right. That was the second time she tried to underhandedly pick at Sutton. Kathy is very quick while playing dumb. When Dorit was saying how many years they all knew Erika, without being prompted Kathy quickly chimed in with “I don’t know her”
That “I don’t know her” comment had me laughing all the way to the credits rolled!!!! HEE-LARRY-OUS!!!!
I think it was just a deflection tactic to well ignore the real story in the room! Get Sutton off her game so she’s a tragic mess again and forget about Erica, yeah right!!!
Kathy Hilton is hilarious and a shit-stirrer. My suspicion is that Kyle is a puppet master and really good at it! Even with the snark and digs, I enjoy the show KH puts on! She’s happy to be odd af!
Last night near the end of the episode Rinna said something about “my divorce lawyer advised”… why would Rinna have a divorce lawyer?
Sutton is smart in the situation, as always. Rinna piling on Garcelle was ridiculous, she is such a hypocrite.
Me too!! Was she maybe talking about Harry Hamlin? Is their some juice that Lisa Rinna is not serving?
Let’s not talk about the husbands!!! 🍷
Rinna was just repeating to the other girls what EJ said to her over the phone earlier that day. That EJ divorce lawyer told her to take down her Instagram post.
Garcelle is just great. She disarmed the table with empathy and kindness, got across a clear and moving message, pierced a bubble or two and then used her confessional to drive home her point for the audience. She might not be in the “inner circle” of the cast yet, but I think she’ll be on the show for many years to come if she so chooses. For once Bravo got it exactly right with the casting.
I agree. And she did it so well, unlike Eboni. She and Sutton (and KH, my kids call me “eccentric”). They like NJ have a great cast. That’s the only 2 franchises that do. IMO.
You’re ABSOUTELY CORRECT!!! I wish they could clone her and send her to New York. I like Eboni, but that situation with her and LuAnn and ESPECIALLY Ramona is always going to be oil and water because of her approach. Garcelle very calmly and succinctly explained where she was coming from, why, and contrasted her experiences with the others and let them know why her is different from theirs and will always be.
Love Garcelle more each week. Sutton won me over during her first-ever appearance on WWHL and more each episode.
I will play devil’s advocate for a minute. As an attorney, Tom has to abide by client/attorney privilege, so that covers some stuff. If a person, in this case Erika, comes into a relationship with a broke down Hyundai, while the other is living in a mansion, being driven in a Rolls Royce, AND WITH A STELLAR REPUTATION, why WOULD she question him about money? The two of them are not sitting down at the kitchen table, doing their monthly bills together, THEY HAVE “PEOPLE” for that. I can believe that she didn’t know anything was amiss. She knew Tom was indulging her Erika Jayne fantasy and loved him for that. She thought he could afford it. Why wouldn’t she? I can believe that EJ may not have had any idea that Tom was pulling a Madoff! But thinking she should be allowed to keep those “gifts” shows her crappy character.
What I hated about her all along, and hate even more now, were her airs of superiority. “We have TWO jets in the family! “I spend $40k a month on glam!” All in that nasal fry voice. The glam expenditure makes me sick. I wonder what REAL STAR Elizabeth Taylor spent on glam. No where NEAR that, I bet! It’s disgusting. And so easy to write off $$$ hundreds of thousands on glam as “business expenses.” Her entire rich-bitch persona was/is gross! Somewhere a while back, BEFORE THIS MESS, I read an explanation of how easy it is to push a crap song to a top hit by buying digital downloads. Like old-school Payola for the digital age. The article was specifically using EJ’s music to explain the principle.
When you see an article in the LA Times, it’s not like a tabloid. It goes through LAYERS of “lawyering.” No wonder she lashed out! Garcelle was just the handy target. Even the Five Fucked Foxes agreed EJ got a heads-up before the article went to print.
Erika knew victims were coming for their money… she was hand certified docs right before she filed for divorce. Andy also asked her on a reunion about victims not being paid and Erika said they were paid and apologized. That statement is now going to come back to haunt her and the lawyers for the victims are furious which they should be.. whether she knew fully or not doesn’t matter ignorance is no excuse! Sutton is right these women need to be careful they could definitely be deposed for (assets) they may have seen that they can sell to pay the victims.
Theresa claimed she didn’t know what she was signing and still found guilty and served a year in jail. Ignorance should not excuse Erika. What was done to these victims is awful and heartless and once Erika knew she should have been doing everything in her power to make it right. Like turning in her jewelry. There is always a price to pay for living so large.
That’s exactly why Theresa went to jail. She put down ALL of her jewelry was FAKE. I hope that year was worth the bling. Dumbass.
Elizabeth Taylor wrote a memoir and was known to do her own even in the studios almost without exception. Marilyn Monroe used mascara, lipstick and powder only. But they were both naturally beautiful… Erika no longer qualifies. MHO, she turned and has provided documents already.
Garcelle is the star of the season so far! I love how she quickly figured out production’s trick, Erika’s inconsistencies, and Lisa Rinna’s crap. She also handled the conversation about race beautifully.
Rinna has a lot of nerve trying to go for Garcelle. The questions Garcelle asked Erika and the manner in which she asked them is nothing like Rinna’s behavior with Denise last season.
I like Kyle but she, Lisa Rinna , Dorit, and Erika have spent the last couple of seasons circling the wagon around their little get along gang and that has given us panty-gate,doggy-gate and whatever that crap was last season. Thankfully Garcelle and Sutton aren’t going to allow that
On WWHL Lisa Rinna implies that says she has carried this show season for the past few seasons but actually Garcelle, Sutton and Kathy will be the queens of this season.
Rinna is delusional. I no longer watch because of her. Unfortunately I haven’t seen Garcelle and Sutton in action, but if Rinna is terminated I will watch again and I know I will like Garcelle and Sutton. It sounds from these post that they are stand up people.
I really need Rinna to not be on this show anymore. She is unbearable.
Leaving her current ugly mess aside, what I hate about Erica is that her persona was a lie. The self proclaimed c word, bad ass would now have us believe she did not take care of her own money, put up with Tom saying someone could have her at dinner parties, pretends to be clueless about his dealings after saying how well they chatted every dinner, accepted infidelity. Now she wants us to believe she was a helpless lamb with no power the whole marriage. She lied then or she’s lying now.
I enjoyed the episode as I didn’t see crystal BEING SMUG
Hah! So true!
Neither Erika or Tom has been charged with any crime. If this case was so cut and dry, you best belief they would’ve been charged by now. The lawyer that keeps running his mouth about them is the bankruptcy trustee not a criminal prosecutor. It’s his job to find assets and make sure creditors get paid. The only thing that’s evident to me at this time is that Tom and Erika were living beyond their means. They’re not the first or the last couple to do that.
I know it’s an unpopular opinion but I just think everyone is being way too hard on Erika. We are watching somebody’s life implode right in front of our eyes and there is no compassion for her. The fact that Tom Girardi has former clients that have not been paid is a travesty but there is still no evidence that Erika know or had any part in that. That fact that Tom’s clients were screwed out of money, doesn’t mean that Erika was lied to and screwed also.
Erika was already a guarded person with obvious trust issues to begin with. Now with legal issues popping up left and right, she has to be cautious about what she says and what she tells the women. In a deposition, one of the first things they’re going to ask her is if she discussed the case with anyone. Anyone she talked to could be deposed as well. She has to protect herself and I think trying to protect the women from being inadvertently involved.
The money that the victims never got wasn’t Tom’s or Erika’s to start with, that is the same as stealing from a bank period!I Tom was such a rich and powerful attorney but not very smart… how did he think he was going to pay all this money back? Borrow Peter to pay Paul? Funny how Erika is now saying her marriage was horrible and she had no voice! She sure didnt have a problem spending money that she nor Tom earned! All these stories about the car accident and extramarital affairs is Erika’s way of getting sympathy for her! If she hides money or lies about where the money came from she should go to jail! Erika better be careful, there are lots of things being said about where her money is coming from. She will have to disclose and then we will know. The judge isn’t buying her act either according to docs!
He stole money from a burn victim.
He stole money from HUNDREDS of burn victims, Alledgedly.
Zero empathy Zero. If she showed remorse towards the victims I would only give her that.
FYI will take years to unload before any charges.
The Federal Government does not mess around. It takes years and they will get their ducks in a row to pluck off one by one. Just because you hear nothing doesn’t mean anything other than they are investigating. It is an ugly and expensive fight especially if you are innocent. Lord help you if you have anything to hide.
Erika has something on Rinna in the “vault,” and I believe, just speculating, that it concerns Rinna’s marriage. Does she and Harry even live together full time?
Rinna looks to have an arrangement with Harry. Why else would she believe Amelia/Scott’s relationship is just a friendship? Rinna and Harry are the ones with the “friendship.” I doubt they have slept together since they had Amelia. I don’t know why it’s such a big deal that Erika knows a few details, but Rinna seems prepared to go down with the thieving immoral Tomika ship.
Rinna’s behavior towards Garcelle is vile. I hope Garcelle decimates her. I agree with Fizz regarding KH, just, gross how she plays people. I still dislike Crystal. They keep putting her on WWHL to make her more popular. Unfortunately, it’s working.
Sutton does not want to be associated with “ponzi” people because it can effect her own social standing. People like Sutton are on charity boards, they’re country club members and church goers. You can’t blame her for not wanting to get dirty.
Can we put these women under oath? Can we try them as accessories to the fact?
Bravo – it’s not cure nor funny to harbor a felon.
It’s a crime. It’s a crime! It’s a CRIME !!!!
You’d think EJ’s attorney(s) would have advised her to ditch filming this season. The stories about Tom’s car accident are still confusing, her stories are conflicting, so you’d think legal counsel would say “zip it!”. What benefit is it for EJ to appear this season, other than the money? I’m trying to maintain “innocent until proven guilty” with EJ.
Filming this season was not wise for her at all. And the ORIGINAL car crash story is still readable on Google. The only reported injury was a hurt ankle. She’s a horrible liar. And the “sexting scandal” was YEARS ago. People online could tell that there was some indication that it was a screenshot from several years ago, so that was debunked when she posted it. I think she just freaked out that she was busted an started covering her tracks. Maybe she didn’t have an attorney for all of her involvement at that time and just thought she could blame him and his “Alzheimer’s”
The judge was a California Supreme Court Justice who utilized Brandi’s vajayjay doctor, Dr. Matlock on Tom’s dime.
Thanks TT, put wonderfully so I can understand. I really wanted it broken down for a way to clearly see.the crime.
Fortunately, I don’t understand white collar crimes. This lays it out there.
I never look at celebrities Twitter but two weeks ago t here was somehow in the to look at.
Anyhow, she answers a couple tweets and one she answers “it is so interesting to see what is real and how the show betrays for entertainment” hmmmm. It caught my attention that blatantly she was say ing it is not accurate (the show) versus the reality.
As Erika’s Internet attorney, I would base my case on the following: My husband was a high end attorney. I was his young attractive wife. The many cases he won were always in the news so I knew he was doing very well. He bought me lots of nice things. I lived a good life. The amount of money we were spending did not seem disproportionate to what the news was reporting. He was a very busy man and he did his thing and I did mine. We never discussed finances. I’m shocked and appalled by everything I am hearing now. I feel terrible for the victims.
As the prosecutor I would point out the LLCs, I would ask why she needed so many.I would ask why she needed yet another LLC for her “business” AFTER she applied for divorce. I would ask about her income from her “music career”. I would ask if she applied for a loan from Girardi Keese for $20 million dollars. I would ask whose idea it was and why she needed the money. I would ask if she had to secure the loan and what she used as security. I would ask why her signature was on at least one Girardi Keese document as an employee of the firm. I would ask why she was reluctant to share the court ordered financials with the bankruptcy trustee. I would ask why she didn’t turn over any funds to the bankruptcy trustee when she learned the money was stolen from plane crash and burn victims and the other victims that she didn’t turn over any money. I would ask why when the proceedings started she tried to sell her clothes online and once the court shut that down she continued doing so. I would ask which if any of Tom’s bank accounts she was listed on. I’d have a shit ton of questions. Then I would ask about all the inconsistencies in he stories on RHOBH, particularly about “the accident.” I’d ask about Tom’s mental capacities and mental health. I’d ask when and why she started taking antidepressants. I’d ask about her son and if her husband’s huge donations to the police force got him his job. I could go on…
None of this matters much regarding the bankruptcy, she’s fucked on that either way and will be paying that back for years and years. But some of those answers could show criminal culpability.
I’m with you on every point. I’m dying to know what Erika knew…or didn’t.
Well laid out! Ty
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You could be either defense or prosecutor!
A famous lawyer saying is never ask a question if you don’t know the answer.
And lawyers advise their clients to not lie to THEM.
Looks like Erika can’t keep any of her stories straight. One sign of a liar. So there will be questions lawyers have to figure out what the answer is. Because she is in Bravo Bravo fucking Bravo with conflicting stories!
In those previews where she tells Sutton if she calls her a liar again she will come for her! Fuck off. Your peck.er.wood roots are showing. And if EJ means come for Sutton with money and lawyers … bwahahahaha… good one! She must have used that one a whole lot back when she had money and lawyers to back her. Not now.
Erika will say she’s on the show to entertain, so her words on the show should not be used against her as it’s performance art.
But damn Tamara, you’d you make one hell of a good trial lawyer.
Oh but the bankruptcy people already have all the footage AIRED AND UNAIRED for review. Bankruptcy court is not criminal court. If she is charged with crimes (which I am not sure she will be) then it might be thrown out, or not. It kind of depends.
I always wanted to go to law school. I didn’t want to be a trial lawyer because I don’t have the mental fortitude for such huge responsibilities. And I didn’t want to wear panty hose and heels all the time. LOL. I did well enough on the LSAT to get a scholarship to some crappy college right off the highway in SC or NC or somewhere. But I wanted to go to a top tier. I’d still like to audit a law class at UGA just for fun. I’m weird.
I took courses in Environmental Law just for fun in my mgmt program. Never knew how fascinating nuisance law could be🤣
I want to audit a law class or 2 with you! Never wanted to be an attorney but would like to talk the talk and have a better understanding of the legal world.
How the betting works on this Veto is not super clear.
However, next week, The HRR comp is Roulette. Basically, you pay to play, you spin the wheel and whoever’s name it lands on that person goes up BEFORE the veto is used and someone is taken down. This is only smart to play if you are on the block, or MAYBE if two of your allies are on the block and you are confident in winning veto. VERY RISKY.
The third week is a literal coin flip, If you win the flip, then you can change the HOH to whoever you want.
Remember…Tom was running this game (beginning around time EJ entered his life interestingly). He was not only hailed as this world renowned titan but got away with everything…was actually rewarded by California governor etc. he seemed untouchable…maybe Erika thought this would apply to her as well. I’m not convinced she has nothing to hide…any investigation would scare me much less a federal one but again…wouldn’t you at least feel bad/disgusted about the facts that have aired while filming?
You would think! She really should have taken the time off, but I wonder if she thought doing the show she could control the narrative. Like Scott Peterson doing all that press prior to being arrested when Lacy was just missing.
Needed the money.
Yes…ugh that schmuck.I think she (just like Tom) became a bit “drunk” with his power…covid is what sped up his scheme though. But not for courts closing down forced this mess to light. It would’ve happened eventually. I just hope his clients get their money…and not wait years for it.
I am really tired of these women saying they just signed whatever their husbands put in front of them. First, I don’t believe it, second, if it were true then they are dumb dumb dumb and deserve to get their asses handed to them.
I trust my husband, but there is zero chance I am just signing my name to something without reading it.
Yes. Especially since my husband likely didn’t read it. Lol
Thing is, “I didn’t read it” is NOT a defense. You are responsible for whatever you sign and it is YOUR fault you didn’t read it.
When I was teaching at a public school, at the end of the year in a faculty meeting they would hand us the contracts. Most people just signed them. I went into a closet (because they were all loud) and read every word. Some of it was alarming. I eventually signed anyway. But I agree you don’t sign ANYTHING without reading it.