OMG! I am all set for this RHOBH recap but did not do setups for Family Karma! Argh! I totally forgot that was tonight. I need a ladysitter! Okay here we go, I am still behind on Family Karma but lets get these bitches off to La Quinta, Garcelle, Erika and Crystal are apparently staying at a hotel rather than Kyle’s house. That seems weird but if it means we get less Crystal around my girls Sutton, I am all for it. I had no idea this was a triple recap night, I’ve just been fucking around all day.
Off To La Quinta
Thankfully they are not wasting any time getting on with the trip. It’s funny that Erika’s “clubhouse” is being emptied out because it is “an expensive she doesn’t need.” That was where she stayed on many nights. Allegedly. And she was not alone. Allegedly. I guess now her gentleman callers can come to the new fancy mansion. OMG. Erika is going to whine about “being on a budget.” THERE ARE ALLEGEDLY $36 million in her account. She really thinks she is going to sell this narrative because most of the hard stuff didn’t come out until either the very end of filming or after. This all makes her look ridiculous.
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Kathy wants to know if there is a bellman to carry in her luggage to her sister’s house. Kathy did apparently have a driver. I thought she said she drove herself, but I must have misunderstood. Or maybe that was Dorit’s driver? Sorry I can’t look at the screen that much. Kyle, Rinna and Dorit learn that at least two million dollars of victim payments was stolen by Tom. They seem shocked. Is Kathy drinking out of a vase? I’m sort of over her highly calculated slapstick. Dorit knows what that is like. She’s had her accounts frozen as well. Also, Tom’s attorneys are about to claim he has Alzheimer’s disease.
Erika Arrives To Spin A Few More Tales…
Everyone flocks to hug Erika. Everyone cries for poor Erika. PULEASE. I know they don’t know what we know now at the time of filming, but still. Let’s wait and see if Erika every once this season says that she feels badly for the widow and children whose money was stolen. Kathy wants Erika to talk to Robert Shapiro. Erika says she knows Bob very well. That makes him suspect as well, Kathy. Erika said that Tom could not see or hear well. Girlfriend, that is not Alzheimer’s. Dorit tries to make it all about her. Sutton talked about her father’s suicide two days before Christmas. I love Sutton for being supportive. But I also know that her ex-husband was UBER wealthy and not a criminal. So it makes sense she might have signed things. Also he was not transferring millions of dollars into her multiple LLCs.
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Erika is claiming she has not spoken to Tom at all. But that didn’t stop her from opening YET ANOTHER LLC that allegedly received MILLIONS of dollars from Tom and/or the firm. I love when Kyle says that she is making all this food for people who don’t eat. Rinna comes out in a sequined jumpsuit. Dorit helps Kathy get her luggage to the room. Kyle drops her spices. No one knows how to sweep. I cannot sweep or mop. My mother and sister used to always mock me. IT’S A REAL IMPARMENT! I know what it looks like, but she I try to model that, it doesn’t work. I am the worst housekeeper in the world. My mom used to show up at the most inopportune time and do that. I need a maid.
Erika Jayne Is SO CALCULATED
I love that Erika Jayne says that she will do anything to cleanse except go to confession. She’s southern. So it is HIGHLY unlikely she is Catholic. Tom says he is not paying spousal support. Probably because she is ALLGEDLY sitting on $36 million dollars. Erika says she doesn’t know if there is anything to get. Probably because she already has it all. Erika says he should turn in his bar card and stop practicing. Oddly enough, he was still giving very lucid speeches about this time. I don’t believe for a minute that she is no in communication with Tom. Rinna points out that Tom was very lucid the last time she talked to him a year earlier.
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Now suddenly Tom is mean as fuck. She is now saying that Tom’s car accident which was much worse that she said at the time. I am not believing this and neither is Sutton. Then she says she assumed when he didn’t come home he was with some other woman. This is clearly throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. I can’t with this. Seriously. Erika’s “you guys have no idea what I have been living through.” PLEASE. She had her own relationships. Allegedly. Now she is saying she went through his phone and found out he was cheating. This is all fiction. They ALLEGEDLY had an agreement. That was what her “clubhouse” was for ALLEGEDLY, for her liaisons.
Rinna manages to bring up Scott Disick. Because Rinna. And we get a fabulous midseason preview.
Erika is full of shit. The more I see of her this season, the more obvious it is. I guess she really thought this would help her get away with it. Instead, she looks guiltier than ever… And even worse, it looks like Ron Richards is now on a mission to expose skeletons in other RHOBH cast members’ closets.
It’s about damned time we get the closet tours we really want and need.
Who is Ron Richards?
To put it in the most basic terms, Ron Richards is a specially appointed lawyer / trustee to find out what Tom Girardi did with certain money that he won on behalf of his clients, that he then did not pass on along to those clients. This money is now “missing” (ie misdirected towards funding Erika Jayne’s career.) Ron Richards is going down the rabbit hole to find out where it went, who it went to (Erika) and then he is going to try and recover that money.
LoL There are so many bones in the closets too. Boy oh boy, I can’t wait. Yes, Erika is full of shit and she is going to jail. She’ll do 18 months.
Ron Richards is related to Kyle? Must be a family member
Ron Richards is NOT related to Kyle. Jesus.
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lmao TT I “felt” your eye roll at that
I was kidding
HA! Closet tours indeed! Is Neneâs next? Erika was really on a roll tonight. Like TT said, throw it all against the wall and see what sticks. Sheâs obviously a liar, either before saying Tom was so wonderful, or now. Probably both.
Erika is clearly trying to establish the narrative to protect Tom and herself in their lawsuits. We are supposed to forget everything we saw of Tom in past seasons and just accept that he was some demented, angry husband? This is all so transparent and goes to show that Erica and Tom are not as smart as they think they are.
Long time lurker. This episode was so ridiculous I had to comment.
I’m tired of Erika’s theatrics. Her dramatic car accident story kept changing and the way she spoke, slowly and methodically, it was for dramatic effect. I wouldn’t have bought any of her stories, so I don’t understand how the ladies are so supportive when she keeps telling lie after lie. At one point Erika asked, where did the money go? My first reaction was, b!t$#, you spent it all on your glam team! You know, the friends you bought! I saw in the previews at the end that Sutton challenges her story and I’m glad someone is doing that. There is a future scene of Erika crying with a full face of makeup on and I think it’s a joke. This is the ice queen who never shows emotion, yet she’s laying it on real thick. Literally not one natural tear was ever shed that wasn’t wiped away so she’s overacting.
I would have busted out laughing. That story.
The dramatics with her hand over face Lolololol.
Welcome to the peanut gallery!
Maybe weâre more like they Greek chorus.
I hope you post often now that youâve jumped in.
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I thought the same thing. The mascara was day 1. Now we are at day 2 dramatic face grab. Will she have weak knees and need to be seated next? Cannot wait!
Back of the hand to the forehead! Such theatrics!
They all jump on Erikas side but attacked Denise. Why?? Cuz they were so jealous of Denise. Kathys trying too hard to be odd. Itâs getting annoying. And I believe nothing out of Erikas mouth re $. Sheâs full of it. Will this whole season be about the trials of poor erika??
I totally agree about Kathy….her “Richie Rich Ol’ Lady” schtick is annoying. “I don’t drive my own car, carry my own bags or know how to clean up glass, I just scrub it into the floor with a grill brush – look, I’m so funny and quirky!” I have an idea of where she can shove that humongo candle…..
I am counting the days Erikunt! Counting the days…..
Lets her dogs shit in Hilton hotel suites for the housekeepers to clean up, according to House of Hulton.
I’m sure she would look at a pooper scooper and say, “Well, what do you do with this? Will it straighten my hair? BWHAHAHA – I’m so adorably rich!” lol
Yes and Scott Disick!
They are being good friends. Erika has always been so guarded, itâs the first time sheâs let them in. This is totally how I behaved when I left a controlling narcissistic man. I could be transparent about how it really was.
Iâve been so busy I havenât seen the evidence against her. Iâll say innocent until proven guilty. For now. And she did mention widows and orphans in that the man she trusted would steal from them.
LOL.
How can you have an opinion at all without reading the facts. Just because you haven’t read them doesn’t make her innocent. It just make you ignorant of the facts.
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I was completely transparent about being ignorant of the facts, and did not have an opinion. Innocent until proven guilty is a fact, not an opinion.
You have been right so many times, I wouldnât come here if I did not respect your opinion.
Also yesterday was the 5 year anniversary of Terryâs passing; I had a melancholy but emotionally productive day. I kind of have closure. I hate these new terms! Iâm such a boomer.
This disheartens me. Since when is agreeing I donât have the facts, said I didnât in my original comment a subject to such ridicule?
And I did share what a hard day yesterday was. Oohh Burn T! That REALLY made me feel shitty Ktina.
I used to feel safe here-
Iâm sorry for your loss. I hope you have a better day. Hugs.
Lemonade stand w my 3 gdaughters today! đ Definitely a better day- Thank You
I wrote something âŚ.. the. Accidentally clicked the moving guys banner!!!! Ug
Iâm sorry you had a sh*tty relationship. Iâm glad your out of that. I hope your improving your strength and finding grounding.
Erika is a tough Subject bc she was very loud about being rich, needing no female friends and choosing a smart powerful husband. She displayed her wealth in a gross manner (and turns out it wasnât really hers)
Itâs hard to understand when you mention innocent until guilty – bc a lot of information about how she is choosing not to follow court orders on assets is in the public domain. Sheâs kept selling her clothes on a resale sight months after being asked to stop (by court).
I think itâs prob a gut reaction to give the âeye rollâ for a lot of us who are aware of how she isnât obeying court ordersâŚ.so itâs the lack of looking for the info that feels like willful ignorance (or being a busy person!).
I appreciate your response. The controlling husband (father of my children) is alive and we are very cordial. The husband who died I married after getting divorced 13 years ago. Terry who died was my soulmate.
I have educated myself on Erikaâs non disclosures. Does she only have Richards, or does she get to choose representation? I would definitely agree, if you have $$$ you got from Gerardi, give it up it doesnât belong to you.
Her being flashy and in your face was when she (I believe) did not know he was stealing the money she was spending is just something she was used to. Wtf do I know. I just always liked her.
Thanks.
Nancy, Richards is not her attorney. The super short version, He is the attorney basically assign to go through her documents and find the assets to liquidate for the victims.
She has her own team of attorneys working for her.
Ooh! Burn! Nice one T!
That car accident story was so full of holes. He was in a coma for 12 hours–she says she knows because she found him. How would she know how long it had been? He drove off a cliff but then it was that he fell out of a car. Then he called her…when he was unconscious? Confused. Looks like Sutton is going to call her on some of her stuff. I feel like Rinna is keeping Erika at arms length, not getting too involved. Probably wants to keep the gloss business above the fray.
Again, why is Dorit on this show? We get yet another packing scene with her kids. After that, she’s just a lot of wide-eyed, mouth-agape reaction shots whenever someone’s telling a story. It’s so Heidi & Lauren from the open of The Hills.
I would have thought Erika could get through at lease ONE bullshit story without contradicting herself every five minutes. I clearly overestimated her intelligence or at least her ability to sustain a lie.
I think sheâs drugged. She said she was on antidepressants but l think sheâs adding other stuff. Just a guess.
I was on antidepressants and if she was really on them then she wouldn’t cry like she did in the past episode and be happy drinking champagne the next scene. Antidepressants don’t make you “drugged” where you can’t remember your story. They make you feel calm, not so emotional. She is very emotional compared to how we have seen her in the past. She is being calculated, working on her acting skills and trying to see what stories the ladies believe so she can use them in court.
Omg yes, this. She never had any emotions before and now that she’s on antidepressants she’s always crying. Yeah, right.
Joey, what antidepressant were you on that didn’t make you feel drugged? They make me feel like a zombie.
Love your explanation of anti depressant (they make my life better). My comments are being crazy today. Like myself
Omg. Iâm sorry about my messy comments.
Tried lexapro ? Itâs good for anxiety/depression. Sometimes people will put it with another one to help energy levels.
I think key is to try them for at least a couple Months. Youâll feel wacky for a couple weeks bc body needs to adjust. My brain needs them :/. Some people need them situationally – my life is my situation ;). Iâve taken for a long long time.
Love your explanation of anti depressant (they make my life better).
Totally with everyone on her acting chops – sheâs trying , but itâs about as good as her singing.
Donât drink and lie, kids.
Dorit isn’t bad this year, shes like a tacky couch in your grandmother’s house. You can’t sit on it, just something to look at. I have enjoyed her wide eye looks this year as Erica spins her stories.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Erica face looked so different from the scene at the restaurant with Kyle. Erica’s story about the car accident is completely made up. Let’s see the police report and insurance claim and then decide. Erica’s stories have more holes then swiss cheese. She is so narcissist she believes she can fool us.
There is a rumor that Erica gave Rinna $5 million to help start her makeup line. Maybe this is why Rinna is die-hard Erica.
Seems like Kyle is too. At dinner, it was almost like Erika called her beforehand and told her to ask a few leading questions and bring up old shit. Remember you told me this, Erika? – and then this happened, remember? – oh yeah, you did say that awhile ago!
Why was Kyle her narrator? Semmed forced and planned…..
I think Rinna is worried that all her skeletons will be let out of the closet if she doesn’t support Eirka. Plus, as you say, the so-called investment in the lipstick line.
They all have skeletons and fear disclosure. Plus they are all disingenuous and will rally around a clearly lying co-star to keep the story going and the light off them.
I was laughing when someone mentioned Kyle’s OTT open-mouth reactions to Erikas bullshit stories. And Dorit as well. Acting at their “best.” They are jokes. And this fawning and wide mouthed reactions is a slap in the face to the real victims.
I don’t mind Kathy’s oddities, she can be funny, and I’m enjoying watching her and Kyle get along. Now Erika, she was a diva and played the part very well, but now miss diva has blossomed into a very pathetic drama queen. She walked in there ready for all the ladies to rush by her side, with all the hugs and sad faces just for her. I can’t wait til the ladies get it all figured out and possibly want nothing to do with her, but first they all need to call her on her bullshit. Especially with her and her empty threats, like really. If the choice is to continue sucking up to this calculated liar because they are afraid of her, that’s crazy, just lock your doors and don’t answer. I would love to know what LVP is thinking about all of this, I’m sure she has a head full of one liners.
I WAS enjoying Kathy’s kookiness until it seemed to be targeting Sutton… Also I see now why Erika Jayne comes for Sutton later this season. Sutton KNOWS she is full of shit. The others have chosen to go along to get along with her. They seem afraid of her. Or maybe they truly don’t want to abandon their “friend.” But has ERIKA EVER been a friend to anyone on this show? NOPE. So why are they pandering to her NOW? IDGI.
Yes I was too. But then Kathy started the bs all over at Rinna’s party. The hunky dory comment was ill timed at best. It started the bs for Sutton all over again. It was mean and it was wrong.
I had to rewatch that. At first, I just thought it was Kathy being kooky, âwhoâs Hunky Dory?â I didnât think of it as a jab toward Sutton. Then, I rewatched, and though dammit I liked you, donât be a bitch. Sometimes being a bitch is necessary, BUT NOT TO SUTTON., EVER! Sutton just seems like a sweet, genuine classy lady.
Agree, at the beginning, Kathy was a new personality who seemed harmless. But she is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. She is mean and hides behind that demeanor to get her digs in. Sutton is in her sites, I assume because of her BFF Christol. She was jabbing Kyle quite a bit last night and Kyle was doing her best to laugh it off. But one could see the history of Kathy ruling the other sisters with an iron fist.
Idgi either UNLESS, they have invested, hidden, helped her. Hmmmm.
I m looking at Mario and PK. What is it with “Mario smoking a blunt talking bullshit” with PK.being “so drunk”?
Odd, and they seem shady. I think that we are going to hear more about them.
Mario has firms worldwide. Just gut feeling.
Note: there is nothing wrong with smoking a blunt and being drunk. Just that is a close friend. Not business meeting.
I hate that relationship too, but the blunt is legal and liquor is Mauricioâs drink of choice. That is a happy man. Kyle is the model wife, keeping it all together while her man provides and parties. Iâm not that nice. đ
I donât understand the friendship thing either. Before this happened, you never saw Erika hanging out with Rinna Dorit or Kyle outside of shooting HW. There were no social media posts together. Erika even made the comment in prior seasons that she doesnât have close women friends. Now all of a sudden they are Fox force five and she and Rinna are Thelma and LouiseâŚnope not buying it. They are obviously all working an angle for the show. Unfortunately they are on the wrong side. When Erika goes down for this they will spin it that they were lied too and how could Erika deceive them like this. It will be very dramatic and they will be the victims and all discuss at length securing them another season on the show.
Paris Hilton has a new cooking show and acts exactly like Kathy. I think it’s legit. Or she copied her mom?
I donât believe anything Erika is blabbing about.
Itâs all very calculated.
Letâs not forget that Tom is a top notch litigation attorney. He is ruthless. There is not one word coming out of Erikaâs mouth that has not been scripted and rehearsed. They are using her Housewife platform to set up his incompetent defense. Itâs all BS.
Yep! And it is failing miserably.
Oh come on, Tom drove off a cliff, may or may not have flown out the car. Broke his shoulder, ankle, passed out for 12 hrs, totally plausibleđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Lol!
Rinna stop promoting your daughter by bringing up Scott’s name at every turn. It’s no secret that Rinna has been wanting her own version of KUWTK on bravo… It ain’t gonna happen!
Oh Erika, you need to stop with all your FAKE, I’m a victim, boo-hoo-ing, all the while dripping in diamonds, wearing design duds and carrying LV bags. It’s not a good look.
Yes, that annoys me. We had a concrete guy who did our spec houses we built. We thought a lot of him, and I recommended him to a friend. He said he went to bid the job. Her Lexus was in the driveway, and she was dripping in her diamonds. She had one Diamond ring that was huge. He said the whole time she went on & on about being a single mother, being divorced, needed a break, couldnât he do it for less, etc. She could afford it. He said it was insulting. He was supposed to cut his price so that she could maintain her lifestyle. People like that are sickening. I was embarrassed.
The wealthiest poeple are often times the cheapest. It’s how they stay rich….BLAH!
All these celebrities getting free swag, dinners, trips, gifts…and they are the ones that can actually afford those things. So much for us little guys!
Glad to see Erika found the waterproof mascara later in the seasonâŚ. *SMH*
I wanted to see more of Suttonâs mom. That would be an interesting addition to the show
I loved Sutton’s mom and was shocked to see her on the show. I figured she would be mortified by it all.
That was a strong woman and makes me think if Sutton was raised by her thereâs a lot of strength we havenât seen yet.
So well said! Sutton is a treasure! I also liked her mom very much. Also, yes TT, it is now clear why EJ attacks Sutton at some point later in the season. All of the drama is so contrived with EJ. It is impossible not to see. I recall Andy Cohen saying at some point earlier this year that everyone would be shocked at EJ’s sincerity and emotion. It is the exact opposite. It is a third class acting job at best and you can literally see her to build a story.
I’m insulted that Bravo and Andy Cohen thought that we would buy this. “EJ’s sincerity and emotion.” Give me a break. It makes you wonder how they are going to spin Jen Shah.
I can’t wait to see Jeh’s black mascara dripping down her face. At least she cries whenever she doesn’t get her way. LOL. Erika went from “ice queen” to sad clown.
Amen! Loved her mom and her honesty about her husband. You can tell she went through a lot with him.
Sutton is my favorite housewife.
I canât believe Erika flat out admitted she knew Tom was cheating on her years ago but stayed with him because of the money. The reason I canât believe it is because this shows she knew that money had dried up/would be drying up BEFORE she filed for divorce because she literally said on tv tonight that she was willing to stay in a loveless marriage BECAUSE OF THE MONEY. Thus, she clearly knew the money was going to dry up or had dried up and thatâs why she filed for divorce (she literally admitted that he had been disrespecting her and sleeping with other women for years). And it seems even more likely that when she got back from Palm Springs, Tom told her they needed to get divorced to hide whatever money/assets he still had. Either that, or she found out there was no money and left him.
Exactly. You said it all.
Her trying to float the idea she left bc he cheated, was mean, and heâs incompetent is complete and utter bullshit.
I would have been more sympathetic at the time, before the rest of the shit came out, if she said, âsome shit is going down that I canât talk about and I had no choice but to file for divorceâ.
Now that more facts and court judgements have been revealedâŚ.she has no leg to stand on.
Literally the only verifiable thing she said is that Tom had an accident a few years ago and broke his ankle. The whole unconscious for 12 hours thing was bullshit. And to claim that was the beginning of his decline might have some truth on the physical side, But the man was giving speeches right up to his being served, and afterward, and those in attendance said he was totally lucid and gave great speeches.
So it wasn’t until he knew he was going down that the Alzheimer’s excuse surfaced.
The yarn spun tonight was fabulously unreal. Great episode, the pills she’s on are doing wonders, if only they could give her truth serum. I bet every lady up there is just thanking their lucky stars it’s not them! I just realized we didn’t get the boring crystal violation cat fight, maybe that’s the real reason I enjoyed tonight!! Btw my hubby thought Family Karma was Summer House, I should have said hun their are no butt shots, wrong showđ¤Ş
Kyle hugging Erika with the dish towels and the tag still on! Lol
âIâm your friend but please let me advertise!â
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Over Ericaâs poor little rich girl act! Her day is coming and itâs not gonna be good. Iâm a little confused because she started bitching about a pool bill but has money for Mikey? The numbers are not adding up! I wish Kyle wouldve be supportive to Kim The way she is to Erika. Overall good episode, The midseason trailer look good! Still thinking they are slowly editing Dorit out like they did to taylor (S.3) and Teddi (S.10). Now that the ladies are in La Quinta, all I can think of is âYOU STOLE MY GOD DAMN HOUSEâ
Kyle allegedly pays for Kimâs apartment sheâs in now. Iâve read that several times. Kyle has helped Kim a lot over the years.
People call it an apartment, but it is a lovely condo in Encino, and apparently, Kyle and Maurico bought it for her shortly after her shoplifiting incident. I’m not sure why this is news all over again. But, yes Kyle bought Kim’s house which is quite nice and comes with lawn maintenance and other help.
Kim bankrolled her entire family since she was a little girl. Hope Kyle continues to take care of Kim ad infinitum. It’s the right thing to do. Kyle is a really good sister. Kim needs support peace love & understanding. I wish them both well. Kathy is a hoot ! More Kathy please !
Yes, and Kim suffered horribly with abuse from producers, etc which their mother condoned. Kyle 100% owes her ad inf.
Glad to learn Kyle purchased the house Kim lives in. I wonder whose name is on the deed — do Kyle and Mauricio own it?
It certainly raises my opinion of kyle to hear these things. Glad she is using her new(ish) wealth to help family. And appreciate it’s not being publicized.
Great recap. Now I don’t have to sit thru it. I would rather watch Denise Richard’s sit on the couch with her husband & her children than this shit show. I love Kathy hope she is a full timecdiamond holder next season. Goodbye Erika. Goodbye Rinna ( whom I adored before# Brandigate ) Goodbye Crystal. Keep Kathy Kyle Garcelle & Sutton. Lawd her my prayer.
Is it just me? Did Erika say she found Tom after 12 hours and then changed it to he called her??? I have to watch it again but it seemed like she was changing the story as she told it. And nobody at that table was thinking BS???
I heard the same contradiction! You didn’t imagine it.
If he tumbled down the âcliffâ
Then maybe she did have to hunt for him
ROFLMAO. Really?
He was under the hydrangea bush! Thank goodness it wasnât the prickly pear!
Erika is truly entertaining. Too bad she canât act.
Right? He was unconscious. He called her from a ditch. She went searching for him when he didn’t come home. He broke this. He broke that. What a lying liar she is. To what end?
Gotta admit itâs hard to feel sorry for Erika considering how much she flaunted her wealth in the past – the clothes, the glam, jewels, private jets, $40K a month for EJ. IF the story of her marriage is true, itâs understandable why she developed the âIce Queenâ personae. Personally I feel the truth is somewhere in the middle of the scenario – she knew some things but not all. But considering how serious these allegations are and compare them to the allegations against Denise, well obviously one is serious & the other not so much. But look how they rally around E but set out to destroy Denise. Of course with Denise Rinna saw her storyline & grabbed on to it because thatâs who she is. Will she do the same as more info comes out about Erika? Doubt it.
And as delightful as Kathy seems to be, Iâm not really buying her cluelessness. I think itâs a personae she adopting for this show to keep a focus on how âkookyâ she is instead of anything deep. Doubt she will accept a âdiamondâ next year. Sheâs in the catbird seat – included but not inclusive. Nothing with her family, business, etc.
Dorit is basically just a walking billboard.
Kathy is the one who is medicated. She has that vacant look, not ruffled by anything, difficulty following a train of thought…..that combined with some learned helplessness from being pampered her whole life. If you forget her history she is entertaining to watch.
Erika, Erika, so many lies….Do they really care about her or do they just care about the drama? The nicer they are to her, the more she will spew lies.
Every time she laments about her lost income and closing her bachelorette pad, I think of that poor burned kid, not getting a dime, and Tom just going out of his way to bullshit him.
I have to look for one of these books or articles on Kathy with the real backstory. Keep seeing references to a juicy history of some sort and my curiosity is piqued.
Did Erika throw Yolanda and Davidâs reason for divorce out there while telling her tales? Letâs not lose this in all the other stories! Erika said âafter what happened with Yolanda and David, I decided to go through Tomâs phoneâ (and she found an affair. It sure infers that Yolanda found a something, something on Davidâs phone, no? Just adding a PS to this, wives usually find a way to start looking at the financials, even if they havenât been too involved before, when they find evidence of affairs, too.
In the past, David has said he will never disclose the real reasons for the divorce. Yolanda has eluded to the show and her illness, it David has said thatâs not it.
One more thing. Letâs say we take some of what Erika is saying at face value. She sees him declining all the way back to the auto accident and finds at least one affair, but she stays. A few years later, she leaves and is talking about leaving, because of his decline and not getting help being the last straw. If youâre the wife of a lawyer, surely you know or can talk to plenty of people who know thatâs when you âhatch a planâ to talk to medical social workers his doctors, lawyers and other family members, as necessary, to take the steps to see whatâs wrong or proceed with conservatorships yourself if heâs incapacitated (rather than divorce). Thatâs why this is very suspect, beyond everything else being reported now.
Maybe, because she did it so fast that no one has time (and at the holidays) to question her?
Also, who wouldn’t hire a private investigator? She had the means.
Your man is cheating, call Yolanda lol jk, get the $, read receipts, get a private investigator!! I never had to but love true crime lol.
Oh, and get in the safe deposit box, and the safe.đ
If he was suffering from dementia and still rich she would have stayed!
She could have just made sure heâs comfortable and well cared for and go have free reign to do what you want, answer to no one and have total control of the purse strings.
But thatâs not what happened. Heâs broke and in trouble and sheâs a big reason why heâs in troubleâŚ
So she tried to leave out the back door and take that pile of cash with her!
He’s not currently broke, but he is about to be when the bankruptcy trustees take all of his money AND “hers.”
Not buying the poorly acted spin queen Erica. She is truly trying to make up evidence to support her case. Here comes the spin that he isnât right, the defense canât say Dementia as there is evidence that he is lucid and giving speeches before he was charged. Dementia comes in as a slow burn, not fast. The only way to squirm out of things is an Alzheimerâs diagnosis, which can be quick, 1-2 yrs, but not that quick. Hope the prosecution blows that out of the water by trying to get medical records. Plus it was his Psychiatrist who diagnosed him with Alzheimerâs, girl please, nope. It is complex to diagnose Alzheimerâs and a Neurologist or PCP orders a panel of blood test, MRI, scans looking for Tau or amyloid proteins and/or a lumbar puncture looking for tau and NF light chain proteins as well as low amyloid-beta. A Psychiatrist does not order that work up, they may assume, but you canât diagnose based on assumption.
The car accident was another example of the âhe is illâ changing story, He was out for 12 hours, but he called you, you found him unconscious, girl bye. What is he calculating, philandering, mean, or old and ill?
All the money is gone, Tom doesnât pay me a cent, but he put $$ in your LLC and the defunct firm is still paying into it, now a new LLC to try and keep your ill gotten gains?
Sutton is lovely, you can see the cogwheels turning and her figuring out that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
Tired of these women supporting Erica, who may not have been fully cognizant of her husbandâs thievery, but certainly still tries to hide and keep her monetary âgiftsâ as well as try and sell âgiftsâ that were bought with clients settlement money.
She is alway in full glam, not to poor to keep shelling out money for that. Nope, she needs to go, clink clink.
The man who helped with the bags was Crystalâs driver.
None of the women were surprised to hear about David Foster cheating on Yolanda. Heâs in his 5th marriage for a reason.
Also, is it possible that Erika has been faking it her entire time on the show? Was any of it real? Her marriage, the planes they chartered but didnât own? I wondered why their house needed so much work. Rich people do not keep a rotten tree in their back yard, and they repair the pool tiles. Were all of their cars leased? How do you blow tens of millions of dollars and have nothing to show for it? I guess that is the 36 million dollar question.
I haven’t read comments yet so apologies if repeating.
I noticed that she said last night “he supported and FUNDED my career”
I was so sucked in last night I actually thought “I have got to get to the recap to “shake it off” for some reason I was drinking the koolaid.?
Oh, and she mentioned “the bedroom” at the.clubhouse.
I found it funny that we got the full on house tour I think a couple of episodes ago or whatever as nd now it’s gone𤣠I just hope her dog went to as loving home!
Gag me – Erika will never win an oscar lol SOOOOO dramatic
I thought it was just me cuz I was stoned out of my mind!
Erika is full of shit & the way they all held on to her every word was lame. Every time she was on screen I kept thinking she’s auditioning for the role of her life! It seemed so fake & performative.
I would love to a guest at either one of Kyle’s homes
Kathy is hilarious. Love her!
Crystal was enjoyable in this episode
Happy Garcelle is back next week.
Erika’s poor acting only shines a brighter light on the holes in her story/timeline.
Dorit is label laden wall paper this season.
Lisa Rinna needs to get her own storyline and stop using her daughter and cast mates.
Can anyone explain to me why Erika would even wear mascara – in the previous fake crying episode – when she was clearly wearing false eyelashes? Is that even a thing?
As someone who used to wear fake lashes a hundred years ago, I did use mascara because it helped blend the fake lashes with the real ones. I don’t wear them anymore but fake lashes are so much better now it’s probably not necessary. Of course, the dramatic (comical) effect of mascara running down her face wouldn’t have happened.
Thanks, Terri.
I thought it was very telling how Erica said she would do anything but go to confession. I didn’t take it as going to confession because that is what Catholic’s do. I heard it as “I won’t go to confession” because I didn’t do anything wrong. She is trying to spin it that she is broke and currently has nothing but she still fails to remember she spent money that didn’t belong to her or Tom.
With the information we have now that wasnât out there during filming what weâre seeing, the reunion will be interesting even Erika doesnât show. If youâve noticed, not only are most all of the ladies protecting Erika, but Andy appears to be as well.
I think that scene at the hotel where her dog pooped and she lamented about having to clean this up too and then just left the poop for someone else to step in really sums it up
I may have a dumb question. Could Erika settle this by paying for the ill gotten gains and just return what she can, and owe what she owes. And make it go away?
Seems so much better to get it over with and people forget fast, she could ‘re-establish a toned down career.
Of course she could give everything she has to the victims. It would not eradicate her crimes, but it would return her reputation for many people… It would also look great to the courts.
It will never happen though because she is âinnocentâ and is âjust trying to make a new lifeâ with what âlittleâ she has. đ¤Ł
I’m tired of Erika’s monotone delivery of everything. I have a BS meter that is on point and it goes wild any time Erika is doing a performance. She’s pathetic the way she is trying to make HERSELF a victim when there are REAL victims involved here. Sutton’s intuition is figuring it all out and we see how Erika will respond–with THREATS. Real tough girl—first crying that she had “no where to go” and now she’s going to take on Sutton for not falling for her lies. I want to punch the smug off her face.
Me too! If I were Sutton Iâd say âwhat are you gonna do? Have Tom sue me?â âBitch donât be writing checks your botoxed face canât cashâ. Erika makes me fume!
I’m not saying that Erika knew nothing about what was going on but I really don’t believe she knew it all. Her LLC was created in 2008 with Tom as the Agent for Service of Process. Her Corp. (Pretty Mess, Inc.) was created in January 2021 which was after she filed for divorce and most likely created for her post-divorce income. Tom’s assets were frozen in December 2020 and Girardi Keese has already filed for bankruptcy before Erika’s Corp. was even created so there’s no way he could’ve transferred money to Erika’s Corp. That money may have been transferred to the LLC before that but if Tom actually controlled the EJ Global LLC, the fact that he transferred money to that LLC doesn’t mean anything. As a lawyer, it just gets frustrating when people believe everything they hear without actually knowing the “facts”. Which ultimately we may never because only Erika and Tom really know. The fact that Crystal doesn’t even look at her bank account or want to look at a bank statement should give an indication that in the world of very wealthy women, money is not something you worry about. I also find it interesting that Tom and Erika were marred for 20 years and he never seemed to have an issue with making client payments until recently. Everyone is saying he was financing Erika’s lavish lifestyle but it just doesn’t make sense to me that the embezzlement of client funds didn’t appear to occur until the last couple of years. I think Erika is a stoic ice queen that is very experienced at hiding her emotions and putting on a facade. I never bought her relationship with Tom as being wonderful and loving. She seemed to me as someone who fulfilled her role in his life as agreed and she was very respectful of him. But she also always seemed a little afraid of him to me, and she always said that he was the most ruthless person she knew. She once said they didn’t have a pre-nup because Tom would never let her leave that marriage with anything, pre-nup or not. I’m just saying don’t believe everything you read or see. Lawyers tell the facts in the light most favorable to their clients and to create certain implications but it doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily true without the full context.
I admit I didn’t get past the “her post divorce income” bullshit. Court documents claim that Erika Jayne and her two entertainment business companies (EJ Global, LLC and Pretty Mess, Inc) received jewelry, luxury items and lottery payments from Girardi Keese to the total of $25 million. As a result, they suggested Erika Jayne conspired with Tom Girardi and his law firm to hide assets meant for the supposed victims in the ongoing cases. The HIDING OF ASSETS IN THOSE TWO COMPANIES were at $25 million at the time of THAT court filling and they have now found another ELEVEN MILLION DOLLARS.
Whatever happened to Broke TOM and Broke Erika? She has received THIRTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS SINCE SHE FILED FOR DIVORCE. Does that make sense to you? Come on.
I was just curious so I went and searched google about his car accident and found nothing when it supposedly happened. Since when can a high powered “famous” lawyer and husband of a housewife not make the news after being shot out of a car, being in a coma for 12 hours, plus all the injuries he supposedly had? People make the news for ingrown toe nails these days and that type of car accident never made even TMZ?
I did the same and found some evidence of the car crash and the ankle injury but not much else.
omg, I just started watching this episode. EJ arrives — what an act! And she even uses a different voice to talk. I loathe this phony act. She is a lying liar.
There’s something about Sutton that is endearing. I like her. I hope they keep her along with Garcelle. Kathy, I am not sure how much of her quirkiness is real or play acting for fun. I hope that Bravo will finally, at some point, decide that Erika has to go .All eyes are on Erika’s every word. Maybe when her wages are attached.
Bravo LOVES a FELON. She might get a going to prison spin-off! LOL.
In Erikaâs book she wrote, âThe whole Erika Jayne project was only possible because Iâm self-funded,â she wrote. âThe haters are always going to say, âAll you do is spend your husbandâs money.â First of all, itâs our money. Know how I know? Because the IRS tells us that it is. My name is on that tax return too.â
Funny how it was âour money.â Now, she doesnât know anything about the money, or where the money is that he took. This is becoming like a game of Hangman. The more she opens her mouth, the closer she gets to the noose around her neck.
I cannot fathom why she did this season other than she thought she was smarter than she actually is, thought she would put on this act we are watching each week and sell her victim BS. She is really quite brazen on social media. I canât decide if she is really not afraid of Richards the attorney, or she is so delusional that she thinks people are buying her act.
Her hubris thinking she could come on this show and convince everyone she is innocent is amazing. Everything she tapes gives more ammo to the prosecution. Maybe she can keep her fanbase for a bit? Or dupe the other housewives. But she is giving the prosecution so much to work with every time she opens her dumb mouth.
Her hubris is pure inertia. Her whole life she has lied and been believed! Her whole life is an illusion. Why wouldnât we believe her, believe in her version of everything? âwe always have. Thatâs how she thinks, (how too many people think).
If Erika has $36 million then she needs to pay those people their $2 mil. She’d never miss it! Greed! Past seasons no one could pry an ounce of emotion from the ice queen. NOW she blubbering all over the place with bs line after bs line. What a liar and for some reason I’d be willing to bet Teddi is enjoying this, as well as Vanderpump. Don’t know why they came into that thought lol
The 36 million is all from Girardi Keese victim funds. She will be responsible for paying ALL of that back.
The thing she will go to Club Fed for, eventually is TAX EVASION.
Thatâs right Karen. Whoâs the âlittle fawn in the woodsâ now?
Erika is now trying to set up her & Toms defense by saying he’s not well. How convenient right around the time the money was stolen he wrecked off a cliff & was unconscious (sp). Broke a bunch of bones & had a head injury. Bull$hit. I can see right thru her stories & so can everyone else. She should’ve just kept her mouth shut. If Tom was such a good lawyer he should tell her to stfu
Erika needs to give up. She needs to use her last few $$$ and get some vaginal rejuvenation and find herself an Oligarch.
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Just watched it omg.
First of all will say this in earlier seasons Erika never showed emotion. Except for the strange crying and embracing Tom scene. That was uncomfortable to watch… I can only speak from my experience. When you have a husband who is verbally abusive. You learn quickly to “put the mask on” all emotions are threats. I doubt Tom was the “perfect” husband. But she had financial motive while others have children. The later unfortunately keeps in the hell cause why put your kids in poverty then to sacrifice yourself. So I can see why she would stay. But that is where my sympathy ends. I can relate to Sutton’s mom.
I find police interrogations fascinating. They way the perp think they are so clever and can talk their way out of their crime. But the fact that they are “talking” is to their detriment. Erika and her newly spun “Tom” stories reminds me of those. Her car accident story makes zero sense. More Tom is sick which at his age I do not doubt. She should not have filmed this season. It makes her look worse.
The half season trailer looks promising. Looks like they turn on Erika. Probably why the facade of support on social media.