Before we get to the big news, as I told you here, when it was announced that Heather Dubrow is coming back, and that Braunwyn’s BFF Noella Bergener was taking her place, Tamra Judge was fighting hard to return to RHOC. However, my source at the time felt like no monetary agreement would be reached.
Well, as usual, my source was correct. Tamra and Bravo/Evolution Media could not come to terms for her to return full-time this season. They are not going to pay her what she is asking/used to make. There is a possibility for her to return at a lower rate in a few episodes this season or come next season with a more humble negotiation stance.
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This is unfortunate. Both the network/Evolution wanted her to return this season. However, her nearly $900,000 in pay for the season was not going to happen. The financials just didn’t make sense with Shannon/Heather’s high salaries a third would’ve eaten up some of the profit margin. Ratings are just not what they used to be. Maybe they will axe Shannon next and Tamra can get what she is worth? LOL.
Personally. I believe that Tamra will take whatever she is offered to return in any capacity at all. She can do a few episodes this season at a reduced rate in an effort to prove she is worth the money for the next season. What do you guys think?
I agree with you TT. I think that is exactly what will happen.
I don’t want her back.
I agree. I am sick of her screaming and baring her breasts just to make a scene.
100% agree!
I agree!!!!
Agree…..I watched some of the old episodes over the weekend, and Tamara is just an awful person. I realize that can be said about 90% of the current HWs from all the franchises, but Tamara is a liar and a terrible friend.
I could live very happily with her never coming back, so your theory is probably right. She’ll worm her way back in a few episodes and then be offered a full-time gig next year.
I’ve thought she was disgusting ever since her plot to get Gretchen “naked-wasted.”
Totally agree. That episode got me – settling up a woman to be sexually assaulted by your son….gross
Same!! She is the biggest two faced woman on all shows combined. And the naked wasted comment i- revolting.
I don’t want her back either
Don’t bring her back!
I take it this confirms the earlier buzz out there that Tamra will probably return as a Friend this season? I can live with that.
From everything I’m seeing in RHOC Land so far, at least it appears that Season 16 won’t be as gawd-awful as Season 15. But then again, considering how gawd-awful Season 15 proved to be, they may just have nowhere to go but up this year.
I haven’t watched any of the Housewives shows in years, so don’t care what screeching cast pick they make.
I don’t want her back, but, I think it is going to happen.
Damn Heather and Tamra need to take down the Beadors. she should just take the offer they provided, work hard this season and get more money next season. I hope we see her lease pop up here and there throughout the season, especially getting in Shannon’s face!
Agreed! I certainly hope Tamra will accept what’s offered and postpone fully flexing her ego until next season, after she’s demonstrated her value once again to the gormless prats at Bravo. She’s smart and I think she will.
Tamra made the show. I’ve watched a portion of an episode since she left, just long enough for bile to rise in my throat. The parched, sexually confused California raisin with the oddball mother and cuckold husband was stomach-turning.
I can see it two ways why she would justify her pay. 1st she was mentioned all of last season and 2nd it’s bravo/production calling her back. Sure that might stroke her ego but she needs to put that in check. Take the money, run and give them a good show. At lease she’s being offered something look at vicki, still giving interviews about her show that she was kicked off and nobody wants her back. At lease Tamra is getting the call
She posted on her IG story this am as she was getting her explant surgery & there was a full camera crew there. I think she at least signed on as a friend. Not a huge fan but would love to see her back as a friend of to make Shannon squirm!
LOL love that you came to my site to let me know what is happening based on IG, You are both hilarious and ridiculous, While providing no real tea.Tamra would film a hangnail. We should know.
I am happy about Heather coming back but I am on the fence about Tamara. Recovering from surgery hubby and I watched Terry’s show. I like the Dubrow’s.
Why do we want to take down Shannon? Personally I’m sick of Tamra drama and screaming in someone’s face. It is exactly for that reason I don’t want Tamra to return!
In actually surprised that she didn’t jump at any offer they threw at her.
SAME! She hired some big name to represent her who I feel like wasn’t aware of her um… challenging past. lol.
Tamra is trashy as hell, I would prefer for her not to come back ever.
i would tune in for heather but would turn it off for tamra.
I don’t like even typing this in the age of twitter and reddit cancellation, but Tamra is one of only a couple of housewives that I genuinely don’t like. She’s a sociopath that should humbly focus on being happy in her corner of the world, not broadcasting herself on television.
So the consensus is, we don’t want Tamra back. LOL. The good news as of this very moment, she has not signed a contract. The bad news is, I think we will see her in at least a few episodes.
I don’t care for Tamra or Heather. The people making the casting decisions are to blame for all the crappy seasons. As long as they leave Family Karma and Shahs alone, I’ll be good.
I just realized that my source has not mention Southern Charm at all lately. I just made some inquires about RHONY though so I don’t want to be a pest. I’ll inquire about that in a week or two. It’s best to let the source talk to me for the most part. 🙂
Heather does come across like she is better than others, but I can take that better than Tamra. Her plot against Gretchen yrs ago was truly disgusting. I like Heather’s husband Terry though, and I would love to see her film in her mansion.
Yes, keep us posted on Southern Charm (mainly interested in Craig). I do wonder if he will try to reach out to Naomie. I think he truly loved her, but she was downright mean to him at times. Of course, we don’t know what went on behind closed doors.
Tamara I agree with you that the stupid suits need to leave Family Karma and Shahs alone!
I really liked was Southern Charm New Orleans and that’s probably why it won’t return.
RHOC would need a completely new cast for me to care to tune again. No matter what’s decided for the next season, I’ll stick to your recaps. Thank you for watching so I don’t have to 🙂
Craig Conover has been advertising in the Charleston market regarding his team of lawyers that are just a phone call away. I wonder if he’s really practicing law and is the managing partner of the practice or is he just the “face” of the firm which is actually staffed by others who are actually doing the legal work? I’m curious about his book, could be an interesting read.
One of the reasons I stopped watching this show was Trashella and her flashing boobs. No, thank you.
Y’all I’ve noticed more and more stupid “nicknames” popping up again. I try to overlook a few here and there, but, it’s just leading to more and more of them.
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I stopped watching because of Tamara and Vicki. Started again last year and realized how much I still didn’t like it with Kelly and how messy Shannon had gotten.
I hope they leave Family Karma alone. Don’t care about Shahs (although I have to admit it is better even with Destiny.) Take it or leave it. Like my Below Deck and MDLNY. We shall see how things go. OC is out of the running though.
I like MDLNY too. But I’ve stopped recapping because I feel like it is just me saying I like this house, I don’t like that one. They have sort of stopped the dramatic “housewives” sort of drama. Also, I REALLY miss Luis even though he seems to not be the great guy we all loved. 🙁 And he isn’t still in real estate. Also TYLER IS HYSTERICALLY FUNNY but they are not showing that on the show. Add in Covid, and it’s kind of “sterile” this season. I still like it and watch. It’s just a bit sterile this season mostly due to COVID.
MDLNY & MDLLA played against each other on Celebrity Family Feud last night.
It was great!
Oh NOBODY SPOIL ME I WANNA GO WATCH! What channel is Family Feud? EVERYTHING COMES ON SUNDAY NIGHT.
Absolutely love Tyler. Not a big fan of KJ or Steve. I want more of Tyler, he is smart & funny and has no trouble admitting that he doesn’t know everything but wants to learn more. Steve & KJ think they know everything and have such big egos but I guess all of them do. Fredrik is adorable and Ryan makes me laugh.
Like most of you I don’t want her back either.
She’s too thirsty, and should have saved her money from her wedding special and call it done.
I live here in OC (Corona del Mar actually) and this is the best cast they can come up with? Nitwits? Screaming banshees? I know plenty of women here who lead interesting lives, volunteer, are kind to people, work, have good kids, are in long term normal marriages, don’t run around showing their wrinkled 50 year old sun spotted cleavages, don’t insist on showing their breasts whenever they feel like, drink in moderation so they don’t have run and hide in bushes screaming at people with a voice that could crack glass…. but then again who would watch that, right? That would be too normal. That’s why they need to bring back the hypocritical narcissist who was trying to use her own son to sexually assault a drunk woman, who ignored her own daughters pleas to keep her name off the show, assaults people and in general is just a wanna-be, use whoever to get ahead POS around. But go ahead, keep bringing back the old weeds that you pulled to promote new growth and watch the ratings get worse. I’m telling you, the housewives franchise are passe. The world has changed and Bravo is clinging to the past. You gotta wonder why, right? Why have all these shows that make (well, not “make” but allow) women to look so HORRIBLE? We, as women, should boycott this kind of BS. I’m only watching BH at this point and even that might go…..
I’ve literally been saying this for 9 and a half YEARS, Gigi. I’ve offered other really good TV options and they get very few views. When and if I can EVER get you off the Bravo teat, I’m ready to talk about shows like Killing Eve, and David Makes Man whatever floats your boat. But we seem to be addicted and unable to pull the plug ourselves. And Bravo is trying everything possible to keep this garbage going. These shows have ALWAYS exploited women. And sadly it’s women who bring the ratings.
https://tamaratattles.com/2012/01/17/why-do-women-watch-bravo-tv-what-is-wrong-with-us/
I have given up on all Housewives shows and haven’t seen OC in years, but this cast shakeup has me interested in watching the next season. I wouldn’t even mind if Tamra came back because I think she may act differently with no Vicki around and having Heather as her main ally.
I sleep with the TV on all night and wake up multiple times and watch a bit before falling asleep. Today I woke up (sorta) to RHOC marathon with Heather and Tamra gaslighting Shannon. It was when Heather wanted Terry to call an ambulance for Shannon after a few hours of them gaslighting her. It reminded me how awful Heather and Tamra really are.
oh damn I don’t even remember that! Oh well, so much for hoping Tamra would be different without Heather! Now I’ll just hope she doesn’t show up as much more than a friend, if anything.
tamra knew tamra was lying. heather didn’t know tamra was lying. tamra takes a producer’s suggestions and runs with it.
Tamra is not interesting. She doesn’t have the wealth of Heather or Shannon to have amazing houses or lifestyles. Her house is basic white with HomeGoods decor. Love it or hate it, the New Jersey housewives always have house interiors I want to freeze frame to examine in detail.
Her husband is boring, not fun like Terry or shocking like Emily’s. The kids we see (Ryan and the 18 year old son) are not attention-grabbing even with the odd political discussions between to two sons. Teresa Giudice’s girls were always fun to watch, as were Kim Zolciak’s.
She doesn’t have fun little quirks like so many others. I remember Caroline Manzo speed walking aroound her house for exercise—not OUTSIDE, but inside her huge house LOL! She also shaved her face to exfoliate. Or that Oklahoma woman who made her elementary-school kids use sippy cups to avoid spills, and also smoked wearing latex gloves to keep her fingers from being stained.
She isn’t surrounded by quirky characters. Her husband and her mom are just bland. I think of Margaret Joseph’s mom Big Marge and her assistant with a British+New Jersey mixed accent and a housekeeper who only half listens.
Where are the ladies who are fun to watch? Either because their homes are beyond what most of us experience and/or because they are surrounded by characters, and have their own unique habits.
Couldn’t have said it better, sunshine! These are all of the reasons I would fwd through anything with Tamra. After you get enough people on a show like that (that you fwd through) suddenly you can watch in 10 minutes and still feel let down.
And Angie “Pumps” from Sweet Home Oklahoma has got to be one of my all time fave reality people! Give her a show!
The only good thing about Tamra returning would be her hot husband, Eddie. And since she isn’t going to be a main housewife if she is eve on at all, we probably won’t even see him. 🙁
Thank you for the information Tamara, I am still not going to watch. The show has become unwatchable and boring. I am in the minority I like Vickie very much, during the alleged Cancer scandal I was not watching due to my real life husband having Cancer and I did not have time. Till this day I do not judge rather Vickie was in on it or not. I never cared for Tamara on the show, especially after her divorce from Simon. I love love love Jeanna Keough, I wish she would come back with Vickie. Gina and Emily are interchangeable and not the right fit. Shannon was good TV her first season, now she is gasping for straws.
Why can’t they bring in people who actually know each other? Bringing in Emily and Gina was a mistake. They are just cast mates, not old friends or relatives.
How would Gina who has 4 toddlers sharing a bedroom in a townhouse have ever actually become friends with Heather who designed a mansion with octagonal-shaped ice cubes dispensed from her ice-maker? Think about those two getting together for lunch outside of filming. I don’t see it as a regular activity for them.
Vickie and Tamra were fun to watch together once they became real friends. They seemed to speak freely to each other and understand the little shorthand that real friends use. Vickie knew a lot of stuff about Tamra’s marriage to Simon that the other ladies didn’t.
Kyle and Vanderpump were also real life friends and were fun to watch together. It made it possible for LVP to be outraged that Kyle didn’t know who Nanny was since she had told Kyle stories about her grandmother dozens of time (she said) and they showed flashbacks of several times LVP mentioned Nanny on camera. Lisa was hurt because she considered Kyle a friend. She wouldn’t have felt that level of hurt is some newcomer like Teddi didn’t remember who Nanny was.
If you get people who have a long-standing friendship/relationship, then you have more genuine cases of conflict. Versus newcomer Dorit complaining that Teddi didn’t serve her champagne in the right glass or Shannon telling Meghan that she STARTS charities.
Exactly! When the shows started they actually had ladies who moved in similar social circles and could actually know each other. Thats what made it so enjoyable and “real” or as real as the real housewives can get! There is a depth of a friendship of 7+ years that you can not create from going to lunch 2 times before filming starts.
All of the original groups worked better because they had genuine connections and new each other on some real world non-camera level. RHOA, RHOBH, RHOC, RHONJ. All knew each other to some extent before the show. Even when they brought in people the first couple seasons like Brandi, Phaedra, Kandi, Melissa, Kathy Wakile. Now just casting people doesn’t create the same effect.
If Tamara comes back her problem will be with Shannon so it would not make much sense to bring her back if you are going to fire Shannon. I know RHOC doesn’t make as much as it used to. But since the newbies are getting paid next to nothing I would think they could afford Tamra for the potential she offers. She should do what Kenya did, come back show them your value so they are reminded why you deserve the pay you want.