This is the last RHONJ recap before the reunion. I was so happy to be done with the Atlanta reunion and the Dallas reunion, but I don’t even get a week off. Such is life. In case you missed it, there was some RHONJ tea this week. Click her for that. In other news, I got my first vaccine today! #HouseOfModerna Now on the the show.
Couples Update
We start with Teresa’s date with Louie. Teresa has learned a big word, “entrepreneur!” I am shooketh. Louis is blood red. Sunburn? Is it hot? Or is it nerves. He gets up to make out with her at the table while they wait for dinner to arrive. Meanwhile, the rest of the gang is decorating for Halloween. Margaret is hosting a Halloween birthday party for Joe. Melissa and Joe argue about arguing. Dolores is doing some major renovation to her house. Clearly, she has no plans to move in with David. Frank tells the workers to listen to what he says. NOT what Delores says.
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Bill and Jennifer and most of the kids (one is at a friend’s house “studying for a test”) are celebrating their anniversary. They are all in white and the table looks beautiful. Daughter Olivia planned the dinner. Really? She’s like ten. A private chef brings the first course and she didn’t eat it. Then, Bill proposes to her again and gives he a giant yellow diamond. It’s nine carats! Bill is a keeper. Teresa, who “wrote a cookbook” is trying to make an apple pie. The recipe says to dot the butter on the apples. Teresa has no idea what that means.
Broken Woman, Drunken Woman
Margaret is having a huge Halloween party. Jackie and Evan are Sonny and Cher. Jennifer is J-Lo. Teresa is cotton candy. She did not invite Louie. Frank is Joe Exotic. Melissa is going to be a mermaid and Joe Gorga is a “Merman.” I can’t believe spell check accepted that word. Margaret is Elvira and her Joe is Gomez. The decorations are over the top and everywhere. It’s like a full on movie set. Dolores is an accident victim wrapped in bloody gauze. One of the husbands says, “Oh she’s broken!” I am sure production made her wear this costume. It’s awful. Both the costume and the broken storyline. Somehow, Dolores is more upset to see Melissa than Joe.
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Jennifer is sucking down the tequilas. Joe Gorga is encouraging all the guys to take shots. Jennifer is wasted already. And super loud and obnoxious. She shoving food in her mouth, or at least halfway in her mouth and dropping the catered plates. She’s disgusting. Then, Margaret gives an emotional speech to her Joe. She talks about how supportive Joe is and how he lets her do her own thing and have her own businesses and is always there for her. In a talking head he tries to convince us, and probably himself that he is not chauvanistic. The next part of the script calls for Joe Gorga to confront Margaret about calling him chauvanistic. So very scripted.
Joe Gorga Thinks He Isn’t A Chauvinist
Who is Bill supposed to be? Prince? Mozart? I don’t get it. Melissa goes to Dolores to try to smooth things over with Dolores and Teresa sticks up for Delores and sort of throws her under the bus a few times. Then, Margaret shows up to get in the mix. Melissa says that she doesn’t need their help with her marriage. Meanwhile, Joe whines to the husbands about being called a chauvinist. So, Bill says they women have a point. Bill says that Joe Gorga needs to be a better listener. Joe Gorga responds with “SHUT THE FUCK UP!” Which to me is a hilarious response.
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I get why Dolores was more worried about Melissa than Joe. She read the script. Melissa keeps screaming at Dolores. So, Joe Gorga comes over to stir the pot even more. So, Melissa pulls Joe away from the girls and tells them to stop interfering in her marriage. It is not helpful. Then, drunk Jennifer and Jackie get their cue to enter the scene and ask what is going on. Joe and Melissa move over to a private stage where their argument continues. These two are playing with fire here. This fake season could in up being a real relationship. Melissa and Joe leave the party.
End notes: Melissa has a new workout line but “being the wife of Joe Gorga is her hardest job.” Margaret and her Joe are just fine. Things are good with Jackie and Evan. Jennifer is still not speaking to her mother. Also, she can’t keep a housekeeper. Dolores is getting a thigh lift and already trying to decide what surgery she will get after that. That’s scary! Louie wants to be with Teresa “until her boobs drag on the floor. Charming.
Let us know how you feel tomorrow. My arm hurt like a mfucker after that shot!
Mine doesn’t hurt at all yet. It’s been about ten hours. Fingers crossed.
My arm was sore right away after both shots, so if your arm doesn’t feel sore now, I don’t think the arm will bother you.
It’s called Covid arm, happens to about 1% of patients.
I got my second one today. Let me tell you a much different experience this time around. No pain, no sick feeling this time, man I was laid out before.
which one did you get?
Pfizer, both in non-dominant arm. Its sore, but it hasn’t really caused a problem. Still slept on that side. I did read something interesting though, people like me that had a worse experience with shot one, could have been asymptomatic, who knows.
My mother got so sick after her 2nd shot that she truly felt like she was dying. She has just recently been diagnosed w/Parkinson’s & COPD. She mentioned to both her primary Dr & neurologist that she got so sick after 2nd shot. They both asked was there a time she thought she could have had Covid in the past yr that had not been diagnosed. She told them yes, she went to the ER last Feb but they just diagnosed her w/upper respiratory infection. Both Drs told her that was Covid & that’s why 2nd shot made her so sick. The neurologist also said Covid is causing COPD & Parkinson’s in some people, that the 2 diseases go hand in hand.
Mine wasn’t sore the first day. I was sore the next day. The soreness was worse w/the 2nd shot. I got Moderna. Oh, and I don’t know if it’s a legit thing or not, but a former teacher who my kids had said her Dr told her to do the opposite arm for the 2nd shot. I did what she said, but I really do not know that it helps with the soreness. The nurse who did my first shot said she got hers in her dominant arm just because it’s her dominant arm & she would move it more & hopefully it would not get very sore.
I get my second shot Friday. The first one left a big red spot, got really hard, like the serum was just under the skin, then it started itching. But I am still wearing my mask, few as trips out as possible and hand wash or wear gloves.
This arm reaction happened to me after my second Moderna shot. Like 5 days after I woke up with a huge red spot and bump. The bump hurt when touched and after a few days, it itched a bit. It took almost a week to go away. I looked it up and it’s called “covid arm.” lol
But I never had any of the other reactions people have cited.
I’ve been sharing the “45million shots before deploying to Vietnam” trick for YEARS. Make a fist. Stick out your middle finger knuckle. Vigorously rub the injection site and surrounding area with that knuckle, IMMEDIATELY after the shot. No pain, no bump. It has worked EVERY SINGLE TIME WITH EVERY SINGLE SHOT. For decades.
TT, good you got your shot!! YAY!!!!!! Why does Jennifer drink to the point of sloppy? Dolores is above this stupid discussion about Joe being a chauvinistic pig. He insulted her, she responded and he’s upset. Typical chauvinist. Thinks he is above a female. I could NOT be married to anyone like this. Melissa is trying to, in the words of Dan Fogelberg “change horses in the middle of the stream.” Good luck with that. Oh, Bill was dressed as Prince. Luis seems okay. Not sure about the rumors tho. Will have to wait and see…. I would love to watch Dolores and Frank and David as a show remodeling the houses. That would be more interesting than this.
Louie’s eyes are unsettling to me.
All of Louie is unsettling to me.
I hope all this lovebombing isn’t the first step of an abusive person.
It is he’s not what he seems I don’t trust him based on the fact that he fell in love with Teresa. That alone is suspicious
It most definitely is. She’s not used to this type of adoration and is lapping it up. It will end and he will control her and she will make excuses for him just like she did for Joe.
I thought he looked older than 46 and was kind of creepy in a way that men who have had to much plastic surgery look. Teresa wears way too much makeup and needs to dial back those extensions. What is it with women closed to fifty sporting Lady Godiva hair?They look ridiculous and much older.
His face is unsettling. To me she could do much better! Then again most of these men are not my type to begin with. And yes that’s a hard 46 if that’s true, lol!!
I thought it he looked like Joe.
I thought Marge was Morticia Addams the wife of Gomez. Bill was Prince.
Joe Gorga does come across a bit chauvinistic, but I can see that Melissa is not the same girl he married, and he doesn’t know how to navigate it. I think women continue to mature, and men sometimes don’t. When I met my husband, who is 5 yrs older, I thought wow he’s got his shit together, he seems more mature than the guys I know & have dated, but he stopped there. He was more mature at the time compared to 20 y/o guys, he was 25. Then, as life dealt blows, he didn’t want to handle anything. He does not do adulting well. He told me one time that in his head he just thought he could pretend something wasn’t so & it wouldn’t be. WTF??? I have wanted to leave SO many times…child with a rare muscle disease, father blew his brains out, a husband that can’t be relied on… do I leave and add divorce and all that entails onto my plate, or stay. I could really relate one time when Capt Lee commented on something being “the Devil you know.”
You deserve to be happy. Change is scary. But you are wiser and will make better decisions now. Without a 225-lb. albatross around your neck. The devil you know is still a devil. You will feel so free. Listen to your heart. And your wise mind.
Thank you. Some days I need to hear that. People have always told me I’m strong. I just don’t feel strong anymore. I always had to be strong for my son. When my dad committed suicide, my brother-in-law wanted me to help him w/my sister. My husband totally checked out. My 15 yr old at the time stepped up & should not have had to. I was suicidal and would be dead if it were not for him. My husband told me, “he didn’t kill him.” A short time later I found he had begun texting a 27 yr old. Nothing came of it. He’s an attention whore and craves attention. She had just asked him to let her know when a job got posted where he works. He did. Then, he spied on the manager, texted her how many applicants, how many interviews, she would no longer be off on Columbus Day, anything to text her…from 7:50 am to 9pm. I wish I had divorced him then.
We need a plan to get you the fuck out of there. What state are you in?
TN
You need to rent a storage unit and start moving you stuff in there.
All the problems you have will be lighter once you lose the load of a bad marriage. I PROMISE!
Sounds like my life. I’m so sorry. I know the feeling. It’s so hard always being the strong one.
I will never make my delicious Drunken Shrimp recipe without thinking of that photo of drunken Jennifer!
I thought Teresa was a unicorn. I didn’t know she was cotton candy. That is sort of cheating. Because she has cotton candy for brains.
Teresa should join Chris Humphries in the Hall of Shame for fake cookbook authors!e
She said cotton candy but with that horn protruding from the top of her head, I’m pretty sure she was a unicorn! She should have dressed as a box of rocks.
Dead
I thought she was unicorn poop.
🥳 👏
She was 100% unicorn because Cotton candy doesn’t really have a horn? In its head? Also the glitter ? Maybe she isn’t sure what a unicorn is? Like dots of butter not really sure what that is either
It wasn’t a horn lol It was the paper cone thingy that holds the cotton candy when you buy it at the fair – the wand/stick part lol
THANK YOU! I kept meaning to comment on that but I’ve been either super busy or asleep for the last twelve hours. 🙂 So, defending Teresa was not top of mind. But you are correct. I think that people here may not have ever had cotton candy. 🙂
I still want to make it clear she looked like an idiot. 🙂
I think that the “horn” was supposed to be a cotton candy stick.
I want your Drunken Shrimp recipe please.
Joe Gorga a little chauvinistic. But, I don’t agree with the women (or Melissa) saying that he holds her back. Remember “on display on display”? He was her biggest fan and did a lot to make it happen for her. He had a recording studio added to the house and supported paying for voice and choreography lessons. He helped her with her fashion show and built things for her store. I think he renovated the whole thing. A man who doesn’t want his woman to succeed wouldn’t do those things. And, damn, he adores her. He says all he is asking for is a little attention. My hunch is that Melissa has a full plate and is distracted by that and he feels neglected. JMHO this is a manufactured storyline or Melissa is wanting to fly no matter how much he supports her or worships her.
I’m not sure Marg’s renovations suit my style but she has a lot of personality in her home. I like things a little more muted and fewer patterns but it suits her and JOE got it done!!
Jennifer is messy and Bill enables all of it. Is that good on him or should he be helping her see that she has crossed the line? I’m not sure.
Did Teresa really make up the cheating rumor to get back at Jacki? If so, that is low.
Deloris is stunning. She has Frank wrapped around her little finger. It’s too bad that he didn’t mellow sooner because those two adore each other. Side note: Frank telling his contractors to listen to him and ignore Deloris is a bit chauvinistic. Deloris might be an accidental hypocrite. She’s not as independent as she claims.
Teresa, meh. I don’t know about her or her man. But, I enjoy watching those girls so I will stay neutral on her hoping she stays on the show.
My Mom did Moderna without any problems and I did J&J without any problems. It feels so freeing.
Delores told Melissa she didn’t like the women talking about her behind her back, then immediately talked about Melissa behind her back to all the women within earshot! Quite a bit hypocritical I would say.
Oh, you’re right, Floridagirl, I missed that. Hypocrites run ramped on these RH shows and it’s hard to catch all of it. 😉
Love Deloris but she’s bull of bs. There is no way she’s as content that David didn’t give her a ring. She’s gone on and on about it before. Why not be honest and say that it’s disappointing but he’s worth being and she’s patiently waiting?? Completely hypocritical to Melissa. The reunion ought to be interesting. The Gorga’s need to call her out.
I agree with you about Joe and Melissa. I think there’s a bit of truth to all of it – Joe is from an extremely chauvinistic culture (old school Italian men), and, he’s in a male dominated business. His exposure to “modern thinking” is limited. Melissa has grown and changed- her kids are older, she’s “feeling her other side” so to speak- discovering her brains, strengths, talents, and now she wants to use them. Joe is very sweet- and he loves her. I think she wants his support beyond the “surface” things he builds for her (like the studio when she wanted to sing). She maybe wants to have a man who understands and really celebrates this new side she’s discovered, understands when she’s tired, etc., and he’s having trouble. I hope he grows and evolves, because I think he really does love her, but she’s growing dissatisfied.
TT, I had no issues except a sore arm from the first Moderna, but was running a 101 fever for two days (and tired for a few more) from the second shot. But remember, if that happens, it means you’re immune system is still working (so that’s a good thing, right? :). So you might be down for a few days (make sure you get food and stuff in the house before your second shot), but after that, within two weeks, you’ll feel so much safer and more protected! Although I’m still wearing my mask indoors… The other thing is, we can still get COVID despite having the shot (small chance), but it’s reduced to very mild symptoms. THanks for doing this, TT- I know it was scary, based on what you’d posted before…
I got the Moderna. So did my husband. His arm was a little sore. He got right arm first, then left arm. I got right arm first also.
I get my second shot Friday. The first one left a big red spot, got really hard, like the serum was just under the skin, then it started itching. But I am still wearing my mask, few as trips out as possible and hand wash or wear gloves.
Sorry about the repeat comment. It kept saying I was posting to fast.
Too much coffee in the morning Audrey? 😉
Dolores is my current favorite housewife. Yes he relationship is not conventional but if it works for her they should not be badgering her about it. I would like to see Theresa partnered with someone she could be content with. We all need a little more love in our lives. I hope she finds it with Louis. Dying for the reunion. I will miss watching these New Jersey women & their families ! Off to work. Will watch this episode as soon as I get home. Thanks for the recap.
I like Dolores too, but it makes me sad she feels she needs surgery for every part of her body,
She may not like who she is and that is why she is constantly renovating or having surgery. I wish she would stop with all the surgeries and see herself how we see her. She is a beautiful, strong woman.
I don’t respect Dolores aka Tree’s soldier for that reason. She will always be that way. She makes excuses for everything that horrible, criminal does. The cook who didn’t know what it meant to put a pat of butter on the pie. Oy Vey!!! I can’t even listen to her voice.
She just had a thigh lift THIS season. Remember there was a shot of her with her scars…I think she was showing Frank.
How many back-to-back thigh lifts can you get?
I feel like people that have more than one cosmetic surgery need serious therapy. I could see a nose job, OR a boob job, OR lipo. But if you are doing tons of surgery… You have an issue.
Several years ago when I got Banjo I took hims for walk. He was a handful and a LOT to keep up with. I felt like he should have rescued a runner. I live quite close forner students. The were teens at the time. So one of them offered to walk him. I stood on their front stairs after a couple glasses of wine in the dark. At that time all the houses in my hood, had steps that went the same way. But the owner of this house was a builder and change thing up. So I thought I was going down the steps in the same way as the rest of my neighbors and stepped off the porch and did a face dive. I was sure my nose was broken, It was not, I was fine but I thought if it was broken I might want a nose job. Eventually I realized I like my face the way it is. And my nose was not broken.
My face is my face. I don’t want a fake face. You’ll have to get used to my old mug.
I just got replacement upper dentures (broke my tooth bone on a steering wheel at 18) and my old ones pushed my upper lip out slightly, but SO noticeable to me. That showed me how much the littlest thing can really change your face.
Thanks again for getting me through my late husbands cancer, I used to read your blog all night. I just thought you were so real, educated and interesting and still do. You were there for me in many ways, and I will never forget it. You are the only HW blog I read, TT fan to the end ❤️
This is an awesome recap and a great episode. Sometimes It seems like Jennifer was playing drunk in this episode…I could be wrong. Jackie seems sooo insecure…. I don’t care what anyone says….if you use my kid in an analogy doing drugs….you will find yourself eating pavement….or in Jackie’s case…..Marge’s half done floors.
Can we talk about Margaret new house, wow, lotta pattern going on, definitely her forever home. Did she and Dorinda use the same designer, lol!! Costumes were cute, but Joe really should have been a pirate then again how would he show off his body. Tre’s cotton candy looks likes it’s going to fall down. Oh Jen sweetie, you have kids, your older, stop being a messy drunk, not attractive. Didn’t see the cher at all in Jackie and and the sonny wig was hilarious. Margaret made a great Morticia though. The Joe fight seems so forced, God those two are so desperate for a story. I wonder if Melissa sees that when your not authentic, you smile more than usual, almost laugh, because its FAKE!! We get it, they are setting up the next plotline for this fight for next season….ugh… also I’m feeling a vow renewal coming for Jen next season, because why not!
Her and Dorinda do have the same taste? Can I call it that? Eclectic maybe? That’s not for me.
I am so disappointed with The Marge’s redo. Just ugly!! I was expecting fabulous and not in a Theresa way. Ugh. She and Dolores are definitely my favorites and I am so sad this season is over! NY looks like it’s going to suck, but I will watch and of course come HERE for the real tea. Tamara has been 💯 on EVERYTHING! I was aghast when she said something at first about production driving stories. I am so naive!!
I have really enjoyed this season. Delores is my favorite. I respect her for being a loyal friend, her selflessness with charities, and how she endured working as a corrections officer. She is someone I could be friends with.
Me too. She seems the most loyal most loving & most genuine of the group. She’s also stunning as is. Wish she saw what we viewers see & stops with all the unnecessary plastic surgery. Beautiful woman inside & out ! Not bashing her for having a little fine tuning now & then but she seems obsessed with imaginary imperfections. Natural beauty is rare & she has it in excess. I could see being friends with her in real life. Feel bad she is so harshly judged for maintaining a good relationship with the father of her children( despite his onerous ways ) & loving David without having to be connected at the hip for filming. I bet he adores her & he is MAGNIFICENT with her children & ex husband. I give him serious respect & kudos for that. I will miss these ladies. RHONJ is the highlight of my reality television week. Hoping RHOBH with Kathy Hilton is an epic season !
It’s so funny, I commented this morning but logged back in after a long day at work, and the picture of Theresa struck me. At least 95% of the time, she has her mouth open. She’s the definition of the term “mouth breather” (as in, dumb as a box of rocks). The picture where she thinks she’s “cotton candy”, but with a horn, with her mouth open, is so perfect for her. This picture could be used as the heading for the caption, “And the Dumbing Down of America is Complete”.
It’s not a horn. It’s the paper cone that cotton candy is served on. The cone is upside down. It’s a great costume!
Why does Teresa look like an upside down ice cream cone?
This season seemed to fly by. Teresa was on Xanax or something so it was kind of a chill season, but I liked it. I’d be happy to have this whole cast back.
I agree. I thought it was the best of all the housewives Covid seasons, even if it was a bit contrived.
I think Louis is a user, and knew exactly who Teresa was…but hey, let’s let that play out too. It’ll be good for future seasons.
Dolores is my fave by far. I feel like she knows Teresa isn’t the brightest bulb on the string. But after 30 years of friendship, she’s not gonna turn on her. Unlike most housewives.
However, I do feel like Jackie could go. I like her, think she’s smart, and don’t think Evan cheated on her. But for some reason, she’s just not fitting in. Sometimes I barely remember she’s on the cast, even though her analogy was the star of the season.
I’m gonna reply to myself, and ask Tamara a question: a friend who works in TV said housewives ratings are down across the board — but Bravo is really worried about RHONY and RHOA ratings (since Dallas never had great ratings).
Is that true? Or should I tell him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, lol!
Based on what I’ve heard, Bravo is very concerned about RHOA and RHOC. It’s way too early to worry about RHONY.
You are close. It’s an upside down cotton candy. You got the cone part figured out, but all of the fluffy pastel “hair” is cotton candy, not ice cream.
I am glad to hear that most of y’all had no issues with the vaccine. The first shot kicked my butt! I must be in that minority. My arm was was swollen and painful I had a hard time performing daily tasks. My throat was super swollen and I was so tired I thought I might be pregnant. I am pretty healthy. I know about 5 other women in my age range ( late 30’s) that also had the same issues. I got the Moderna vaccine by the way.
Okay I know this is off topic, but since we are discussing the vaccine, I thought I would throw in my two cents. I had the Pfizer shot. The only side effect I had was a sore arm the next day. That seems to be what most others around my age, 63, experienced. However, my son who is 43 and had the same, said it kicked his butt the next day and that held true for the younger folks who work for him. He told them to take the next day off if needed as a medical. My 39 year old daughter and her 43 year old husband just experienced sore arms as well. I guess it is all down to individual immune systems.
On to Jersey. Joe G. has that typical old country Italian culture ingrained into him. This is a new world for him and it is going to take time for him to catch up, if he ever does. He definitely loves his wife and wants to support her. Melissa would probably not be quite as dissatisfied had she not been on a reality show and started making her own major bank. Delores, Delores, Delores. You are gorgeous and we would definitely be friends but you need to just STAHP with all that surgery. I can’t figure out what hole you are trying to fill. Love Margaret, she seems the most typical Bergen County housewife to me. Her taste level is definitely her own. I grew up with going to Italian friends’ houses and yes, the living room furniture and dining room chairs were all covered in heavy plastic and the rococo accessories were quite jarring. Jackie is pretty typical too. Jennifer is a twat who equates her bank account with her self-worth and got lucky with her husband. Tre is just annoying but I have no patience for the willfully ignorant. Her daughters are lovely and miles ahead of her. I am side-eyeing the new boyfriend. He appears to be parched. I am looking forward to the reunion and thought this was a good season. Less screaming and yelling and they didn’t beat the Jackie story to death.
When he asked Theresa if he could kiss her, I cringed. The guy is definitely thirsty.
I dont know why people get so upset over the sore arm! Its a few days of ouchies. I had allergy shots for 15 years, so my arm was always sore, hot and red. No more allergies, though!
I had Moderna, got sick both times, and arm hurt, bfd, totally worth it.
I got my 2nd Moderna yesterday, and I feel a little under the weather, but it’s nothing I can’t handle.
I had my second Moderna shot 9 days ago, sore arm both times but that was it. I’m just relieved to have it done.