Well boys and squirrels, the judge is reading the jury instructions to the jury. And since I just woke up, it is kind of putting me to sleep. His measured tone is kind of like a lullaby. I am hoping for a verdict today, but that is probably unlikely. The jury is being sequestered and may deliberate up to 10 pm each night.
Do you think they are going to come back with a verdict? I’ve been saying the whole trial it will be a hung jury. However, the prosecution really ended strong. So it that resonated with the jury like it did with me, they may come back with a quick guilty verdict. If it doesn’t come back fast, then we could have a problem. What do you think will happen today? Will we get a verdict?
Closing arguments are starting now. It looks like CNN and other stations are covering the closing arguments. Let me know what you think will happen.
I’m watching the closing arguments. It is unfortunately very likely to be a hung jury.
Reduced to manslaughter🤔His drugged addicted life “Didn’t Matter” #HistoryRepeated”
Well. Thanks for giving me something to laugh about post verdict.
I am very happy to be wrong. 🙂
Here is what we know about the jurors.
Juror 2:
A white man in his 20s. He’s from Minneapolis and works as a chemist. Because of his profession, he said, “I consider myself a pretty logical person…I rely on facts and logic and what’s in front of me. Opinion and facts are important distinctions for me.” He said he has a generally favorable view of the Black Lives Matter movement but added that “I think all lives matter equally” and that the “Blue Lives Matter” message among police advocates is a counter viewpoint that isn’t necessary. He has not viewed the bystander video of George Floyd’s death. He has visited 38thand Chicago where Floyd was killed because he and his fiancé considered moving to the area.
Juror 9:
A multi-race woman in her 20s. She is originally from northern Minnesota and said she was “super excited” to receive her jury summons because she believes it’s her civic duty. She said she was eager to serve regardless of the case, but especially in Chauvin’s trial, given the gravity of it. “It’s a very important case, not just for Hennepin County…but nationwide,” she said. “It’s just something everyone’s heard about, talked about…No matter the decision, people are still going to talk about it.” She said viewing the video of Floyd’s death left her with a “somewhat negative” impression of Chauvin. “No one wants to see someone die,” she said. The woman also said she sees racial disparity in the justice system. In connection with that belief, she added that she agrees somewhat that Minneapolis police officers at times use too much force against Black suspects. She considers herself a “go with the flow” type, and assured that she can be open minded about the evidence. She is the niece of a Brainerd police officer.
Juror 19:
A white man in his 30s. He works as an auditor and was chosen for the jury after expressing confidence that he could be fair.He served in a jury five years ago and was dismissed as an alternate. “I was slightly disappointed after hearing the process,” he said. “…I think it’s an important part of our society.” He said he saw at least portions of the video of Floyd’s death and had a somewhat negative view of Chauvin because “someone died, and that’s obviously not a positive thing.” At the same time, the man continued, he said he can examine the evidence “from a viewpoint of the law” before deciding whether or not the defendant is guilty.
The courtroom, including these juror seats, where the Derek Chauvin trial will take place at the Hennepin County Government Center in Minneapolis.
Juror 27:
A Black man in his 30s. He immigrated to the United States 14 years ago and went to school in Nebraska and moved to Minnesota in 2012. He works in information technology and lives with his wife and dog. He speaks multiple languages, including French. Learning that he was in the jury pool made him “surprised and anxious,” but he realizes it’s his civic duty. While relating to Floyd’s death and thinking “it could be anybody, it could have been you,” he also said, “I believe that I will be impartial.” He said he believes people have the right to protest, but at the same time, he realizes that businesses are shut down and damaged, and his wife is unable to make it to work. He wants to serve on the jury because “it is a service to my community and our country.”
Juror 44:
A white woman in her 50s. She is a single mother who works as a high-level executive in the nonprofit sectorfocused on healthcare. She took the unusual step of summoning her own attorney to the courthouse. At one point, the judge halted the live video feed and cleared the courtroom of everyone except trial participants out of unspecified privacy concerns. The woman said the bystander video left her with a somewhat negative view of Chauvin, explaining that “a man died, and I am not sure that’s procedure. … Not all police are bad, but the bad-behavior police need to go.” At the same time, she acknowledged sympathy for Floyd and the officers at the scene that night, saying, “Everyone’s lives are changed by this incident … and it’s not easy for anyone.”
Juror 52:
A Black man in his 30s. He works in banking and coaches youth sports. He said he has seen the bystander’s videoof Floyd’s arrest and that “I don’t think [Chauvin] had any intention of harming anybody, but somebody did die.” When pressed about assessing Chauvin’s intent, the man said he could still “definitely look at [the case] from an objective point of view.” He also said he believes discrimination exists well beyond what the news media reports.
Juror 55:
A white woman in her 50s. She lives outside Minneapolisand works as an executive assistant in a clinical health care setting. She said she has viewed the bystander’s video, but she wrote in her questionnaire filled out months ago, “I couldn’t watch it in full, because it was too disturbing to me.” That said, she pledged that “I’m not in a position to change the law. I’m in a position to uphold the law. … He’s innocent until we can prove otherwise.”
Juror 79:
A Black man in his 40s. He works as a manager and says he has been a victim of home burglary in the past and the police came to help. He believes minorities are often arrestedbut disagrees with the concept of “defunding” law enforcement and said, “the police do a lot. … I would trust the police.”
Juror 85:
A multi-race woman in her 40s. She is an organizational consultant who helps corporations improve personnel practices and efficiency. She is married with a son and said she spends a lot of time at ice hockey arenas. She said she believes police are human and can make mistakes. As relates to people who use drugs, she said,”I don’t think a lot people would choose to have addiction as part of their life.”Asked about the settlement, the woman said it wouldn’t impact her. “I don’t think that declares guilt one way or the other,” she said.
Juror 89:
A white woman in her 50s. She works as a nurse and lives in Edina. She assured the court she could judge the evidence fairly despite having seen portions of the viral video of Floyd’s arrest and after hearing about the settlement. The woman said her professional training would affect how she would look at the evidence. “We all use our life experiences to make judgments,” she said, which in her work include resuscitating patients in urgent situations and dispensing opiates while on the job. The judge interjected and pointed out that she can’t be “an expert witness.”
Juror 91:
A Black woman in her 60s. She is a grandmother and retired marketing professionaland volunteers helping children in need with their homework. She said she started watching the video of Floyd’s arrest but stopped after four to five minutes because “it just wasn’t something that I needed to see.” The woman said she has not formed opinions about either Chauvin or Floyd and was firm in saying news of the settlement would not affect her commitment to be an objective juror. She added: “I am Black, and my life matters.”
Juror 92:
A white woman in her 40s. She lives in the suburbs and works in the insurance industry. Like others, she has viewed the bystander video and was aware of the settlement but said those would not be stop her from being fair and objective as a juror. The woman wrote in her juror questionnaire months ago that she didn’t believe Floyd deserved to die and police didn’t need to use excessive force. She also said, “If someone uses drugs, I don’t think there should be ramifications of violence for that.” However, she continued, Floyd was not completely innocent. She said she has generally positive views of police and opposes any defunding of their departments, but also believes “people of other races get treated unfairly” by law enforcement.
Juror 96:
A white woman in her 50s. She has worked in customer serviceand said she is an animal lover, “especially dogs.” She said she saw the bystander video of Floyd’s arrest and wrote in her juror questionnaire months ago, “This restraint was ultimately responsible for Mr. Floyd’s demise.” That said, she pledged under defense scrutiny that she could presume Chauvin innocent as the law requires her to do. She said she believes the criminal justice system works most of the time.
Juror 118:
A white woman in her 20s. She is a newlywed and a social worker in Wright County whose clients are coping with mental health difficulties. She was unwavering in her confidence that she could judge only the evidence presented in the trial and added that her profession has provided her with the ability to be empathetic and keep an open mind about people.
This is why you’re so good at trial coverage. Very succinct descriptions of the jury members.
Thank you for supplying this in formation about the jurors. I’d only seen information about two of the jurors before,
Knowing what you posted do you think he still gets a fair trial? Just asking because I an used to Animosity… this really gives I sight to prejudgement that I am not used to.
I don’t think we’ll get a verdict today, but, I do believe something will happen tomorrow. I hope and pray this jury sees what we all have seen and heard what we all have heard.
I’ll be watching. Derek Chauvin can’t be found not guilty. Why are the other 3 not on trial with him? I thought that the hand of one was the hand of all? Watching all the film footage broke my heart. When they showed him in the EMS, I just sobbed.
The other three are charged with something like aiding and abetting a murder. That is probably not the actual charge but their charges are contingent on him being found guilty. So they will only be brought to trial if Chauvin is found guilty. If he gets off, they all get off.
I would hope the debate in the room is if someone is a drug addict or has a terminal illness does that make it ok to strangle or otherwise murder them. Because obviously not. But that was IMO the crux of the defense. Seems like an open and shut case,but so have a lot of cases that come back hung.
I would also hope that they quit making a saint out of him. He held a pregnant woman at gunpoint and pistol whipped her. That was ONE of his career criminal convictions. He was a DRUG ADDICT with a heart problem. He continually resisted arrest. Not saying it was okay but Police Officers get murdered everyday and everyone turns a blind eye. We know that whatever comes out of it. The usual THUGS are going to violently riot so they can loot and vandalize. Done.
Floyd is not the one on trial. This is victim blaming. He may have been an awful human, but what happened to him was criminal.
Now tell us about Chauvin’s VIOLENT/THUG history…
Wow. All it takes in ONE NANCY on this jury and we are all fucked.
It’s why I said a hung jury, because there will be a Nancy. Victim blaming.
I’m changing my name.
Nancy the new Karen. Thanks for showing your true colors.
A drug addict!?! Oh my stars and garters! By all means, in the case of all drug addicts, let’s get a whole squadron of Chauvins to be their judge, jury, and executioner. It would certainly safe the state money.
Just kidding, being a drug addict is not a capital offense but being dumb like Nancy should be.
she might be dumb, but she dure doesn’t know how to think for herself, foxnews addict?
I wish Nancy was on trial next and I was on the jury…idiot.
Wow. No words “Nancy” other then maybe you will learn something from today?
No one should die acutely like George under the “care” of law enforcement. The fact that he was murdered in front of his community who respected (feared?) the officers, felt helpless yet continued to voice their opposition to his lack of care?
I honestly think this was so profound. No witnesses should ever feel so powerless again, ever! Poor George lost his life because no one was quite able to overcome their “respect” but probably more their fears of law enforcement.
Change is happening!
it sure sounds like you’re saying it’s OK.
I saw online that Minneapolis Public Schools are pausing all in person learning Wednesday through Friday and that city businesses are doing the same. This leads me to believe that the verdict may be delivered tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday.
I think this is going to be the case finally gets a verdict.
Prosecution did great.
They can’t day “we think he did it the prosecution just didn’t prove it”
They proved it 100%
“say”
Sorry should have put my thoughts together. Woke up to watch this.
The defense I thought made the case for the prosecution as well. Like a second time proving that a guilty verdict is just.
Fingers crossed that twelve souls saw this the same.
I have never been here before, but I have watched the trial every single day as though as I joked to my parents and my best friend and my daughter I was a juror, and that is because it has come to matter so much to me. I couldn’t sleep last night because I was so worried about the closing arguments! I agree that the prosecution did a very good job and like many of you — most of you it seems — I am hoping with all I have that the jury comes back with a guilty verdict! As to the issue and relationship to drugs that was brought up earlier, George Floyd is not on trial here! Derek chauvin is and he knelt on that man’s neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds! That is murder, plain and simple! But I don’t have the strength to say much more or I won’t be able to sleep tonight either! I’d like to say thank you to all of you for providing me a refuge for me to find other like-minded people who care so much about this issue. It means so much to me, and selfishly, when I know this will not be a help to the big picture, I am hoping that I will be able to genuinely sleep. Fingers crossed for a positive outcome! Good night to you all.
Hope you sleep well tonight. I think many people will.😊
Goodnight all, and T T, thank you for letting us have a great place to be.
And congrats on your new found motherhood. It is the best.😊
Here is what I want to know in re: to all the rioting, looting, burnings etc. after Mr. Floyd passed..
1. I in no way agree with what Chauvin did. I think he needs to be found guilty as well as the other 3 who stood around and watched. We do NOT need another OJ situation where we all know he is/was guilty and then he walks free smirking… THAT is NOT acceptable.
2. I want to know where is the outrage, the rioting, the looting, the burnings over the kids who get shot? Yesterday in Chicago, a 7 year little girl got SHOT TO DEATH in a parking lot in McDonalds. A few weeks ago a 2 year old girl was killed!! KILLED BY GUNFIRE! It was gang warfare and they were innocent victims. I want to know why all the people who love to riot, loot and destroy property ARE NOT OUTRAGED over the killing of innocent children. Why? Why? Why aren’t people pissed off and marching, protesting, etc. over this? I’ve wondered this for years. Never get an answer from anyone other than that it’s crossfire and that’s how gangs operate. Really? AND THAT’S OKAY????
Gangs and criminals are not hired and paid to protect and serve. No comparison!!
I know this. The 4 need to spend a LONG time in jail. I’m talking about the protesting that occurred after this happened. Innocent kids are killed and the protesters need to speak out against this.
They are protesting unfair treatment by the police. They are protesting no accountability from the police/law. You don’t have to look very far in history to see the many instances of cops getting away with murdering POC. So again, no comparison… Innocent children, and adults, die every day (abuse by a parent/spouse/friend/stranger, criminal acts, gang violence, etc). The people who commit these crimes are investigated, arrested, charged, and convicted. No need to protest.
Like I said, I understand what the protests are all about. I grew up in Chicago and still have a place there but have been in CA since pandemic. I’m old enough to know how the police act and what policies need to be changed. The point I am making is everyone (protestors, etc.) are all up in arms over this and the others who have been killed by the police but…. murder is murder. Innocent children are killed by stray bullets or retaliation shootings and where is the outrage over this? They are NOT prosecuted and are NOT sitting in jail. I’m sorry to say this and this will piss a lot of people off, but George Floyd had a full life, a 7 year old girl didn’t get to graduate school, have a boyfriend, get married, etc. And this pisses me off much more. I don’t need to be schooled on WHY there are protests, I am well aware of what they are angry about.
With all due respect to your valid point, why don’t you start the movement? Albeit this is a non-related topic to the Chauvin trial in my opinion, if it bothers you so much…do something about it and stop looking for others to do so.
TT, thanks for the jury breakdown. I had not seen those details before… I’m going to say he will be found guilty of something (hopefully the highest charge). Worse case, hung jury.
I don’t think he was a saint and I hadn’t heard about him pistol-whipping someone. But last I checked you still can’t kill someone just because. Not even if you believe they deserve it. This isn’t the wild west and unfortunately, there are police who abuse their power. And I would throw Chauvin into that bucket. As a teenager I was pulled over by a policeman who was aggressive and abusive toward me and its scarred me for life.
Well the prosecution did as good as job as can be expected. The defense closing is coming up soon. Then all we can do is wait. I’m thinking if we get a conviction, it will happen today.The longer the deliberation goes, the more likely we have a Nancy problem.
Defense has begun it’s closing.
Watching the defense closing. It’s not compelling.
No it’s not I was watching NBC news and they were saying it seemed the judge was getting irritated because the defense just kept going on and on and on.
TT, you don’t seem confident in the prosecution. Are you?
I am hopeful. I feel like they made their case. However, it is very difficult to convict a police officer. We are often disappointed in cases like this. I want to believe the prosecution will win this. They did what they needed to do. The defense closing is not impressing me. Everything that could be done as been done.
But there could always be a Nancy or three on the jury. It’s really up to 12 people to do the right thing. Just one person refusing to convict and it’s over.
I am HOPING for a very quick conviction today or more likely tomorrow. They have a lot of paperwork to get through before they can even deliberate. We still don’t know who the two alternates are. It may look like a slam dunk for the prosecution. But, we have been down this road many times and seen that justice rarely prevails in this situation. Let’s pray this time justice in fact does prevail. It not, that city is going to go INSANE. If I lived there I’d be on vacation somewhere and hope I still had a house when i got back just in case.
I am fascinated by the shoes in the background.
I was like, “what shoes in the background.” Now it is all I can focus on. What an unfortunate choice of footwear. These are shoes I wish I had. I am full blown lesbian from the ankles down. I have atrocious but comfortable footwear. I have sprained my ankles so many times in my life. Sometimes both swollen up like watermelons at the same time. I was leaving a teacher happy hour at a bar once and was in black spiky heels and in our cute little cobblestone village sprained both ankles and have not wore heels since That was decades ago. Heels and cobblestones do not mix. I bet she doesn’t even know her feet are on camera. Someone should call her at the break. lol.
I can’t believe how much it out there about the jurors. I’d be terrified I would be doxxed.
As someone who has been on a jury, all of your details are known by the defendant. It’s their right to know the jury, but it can also be scary.
You also have an audience during jury selection. I had someone come up to me after jury selection who knew a lot of my details and who wanted to “talk over coffee.” Nope.
My lawyer fetish has me feeling some type of way about the defense attorney. Bless his heart he is doing everything he possibly can for his client and I admire that. I respect defense attorneys who do their very best to defend even clients that are clearly guilty. They do that so that they can also vigorously defend the innocent. I wonder who is paying him, he has to be expensive. Is it wrong that I think he is probably good in bed. I miss sex with lawyers. lol.
The police union is Paying him. Last I heard was $1m.
I am amazed by defense attorney doing everything from rounding up witnesses to soley trying all aspects of this case.
I have a crush on the prosecutor, so there’s that, lol.
I remember in my younger days when having a attorney was necessary, him telling me “I knew you’d be trouble the first time I saw you”
It was a super hot thing having a tall handsome protector protecting innocent little me, LOL.!
Makes no sense to me why they didn’t take his offer to plead guilty and service 10 years in prison. That would have alleviated the whole hung jury or not guilty worry. Then the next 3 officers would have been tried or entered pleas as well. Would have possibly saved the city from what is sure to happen when the verdict is rendered.
Yeah, I will never understand that. He basically confessed and the jury is not allowed to be told that.
And I just heard that the most he will probably get is 12.5 years because he has no past criminal history and they have a first offender sentencing program. Which means he will probably serve a lot less than 12.5 years. And Maxine Waters is not helping a bit because if he is convicted, the appeal will probably grant a new trial. And Minneapolis gets to do this all over again.
The defense close is actually getting better. It might convince someone. I worry for our friends in Minneapolis.
I sadly agree.
Let’s hope the prosecution ends with a bang.
Jesus CHRIST! Why would the defense show this video? I am a few minutes behind because I was donating to WCK. This is my favorite charity. If you can spare five bucks, you can feel like you are doing something good in the world. Every tiny bit helps feed people after a disaster strikes. https://donate.wck.org/give/335927/#!/donation/checkout I know money is tight. I know it even more seeing how much money I lost in 2020. So I get it. But if you can, please consider it.
Back on topic, this defense is IMPLODING.
Yea I’m praying the defense attorney shot himself in the foot by replaying the video. The channel I was watching m, the reporters & guests were saying it showed his arrogance and reiterated that he had to know he was dead.
Is the defense ever going to SHUP UP?! Seriously. I think his strategy today was that there can’t be a guilty verdict if he never shuts up. Hence – he’s not shutting up of letting up.
Anonymous juries are crucial and essential in the city that I live near (and was raised in). A woman’s house was firebombed, and she and all of her children died, because she called the police on drug dealing and assaults that were happening in her neighborhood. The “no snitching” creed is an absolute reality and sadly, a necessary way of life- people who live in many parts of my city know that they will literally be killed if they call the police, and know they’ve got a mark on them as soon as they do (so nobody does). If the Maryland Court of Appeals had not ruled to legalize anonymous jury trials back in 2011 (judges can make the decision based on the potential for danger, which is present in most cases), there is no doubt in my mind that people serving on juries in this city would be killed on a regular basis for finding defendants guilty in criminal trials. As it is, defendants are rarely found guilty, or if they are, the judges reduce the sentences, even for repeat violent offenders, to the point where they are back on the streets quickly. People here are regularly “puzzled” by this phenomenon- I’ve personally believed for some time that the fear of retaliation is a real thing, and is what’s driving the extreme “leniency”, even in cases involving violent offenses. Anyway, it’s astonishing to me that in today’s incredibly dangerous world that some juries are not anonymous, but I guess my perception’s a little affected by living near the 4th most dangerous city. In the case of Chauvin, the juror’s lives are not in literal danger of “gang retaliation” as they are near my city.
When I first moved in to what I refer to often as “the ghetto” I did so because that was what my Daddy wanted me to do. He wanted me to teach at the elementary school next door and walk to work and most importantly be in town to visit him in assisted living. The was no way I could not come. I was in process of moving to Tampa for another job but I promised my daddy I would apply in my county. You know how you have to fill out the applications with all your former jobs and references etc. Yeah I barely filled out anything. I did NOT want to teach elementary school. My mother REALLY wanted me to do it. So somehow I was hired at the school next door. I could not say no. I ended up loving it and mother is always right.
I say all that to say that elementary school teachers are notoriously beautiful, young , white women. And they would work out together and jog through the neighborhood. The cops actually were in the area which is rare and they were told it was unsafe for them to run in this hood. Also, years later my house was broken into and the policeman told me “WHAT DID YOU EXPECT living here?” and when I told him some of the disarray was mine and not the burglars who stole my Libyan hoop earrings and my laptop and God only knows what else. The best part of all of this, was that the idiot cop LOCKED HIMSELF OUT OF THE COP CAR and someone had to come open the car for him. lol.
I used to call 911 when gunshots happened in my hood. And I felt like no one took me seriously, or maybe they just did not care.
But now, the house to my left and to my right where both single men killed themselves have been purchased and taken down to the bones and are both expensive houses. I get good offers all the time on mine. I sort of feel like I should get in on the housing boom but I can’t as long as Banjo is still here. Now it is an up and coming neighborhood.
I’m not sure why I started this post other than to say that the police never cared about my neighborhood until rich white people started moving in…. IJS I have never been convicted of a crime. But I was treated with indifference when I was the victim of one.
Defense is back.
Jesus. The judge finally had to stop the defense for a lunch break. At TWO! they usually go around twelve. or 1 normal people time. WOW. The defense was talking for two and a half hours. Apparently Derek Chauvin removed his mask during closing arguments so the jurors will have to look at him. That video was SO STUPID TO PLAY. Surely we will get a win?
I hate to ask but you have been so informative thus far and I can’t watch closing arguments since I’m at work (no, I shouldn’t be on your site either but I’ll work that out with HR if needed lol.) What video did they play??
We are back
TT, I am confused about something.
Usually the jurors are the leftovers after strikes.
This jury was selected. I missed a lot of the jury selection, how was it done.? Did they say “keep”?
I’m still in awe of how clean my living room is. Someone is going to help me have a garage sale in a month or so. Someone is coming to help. So excited.
Meanwhile this defense is annoying. The longer he talks the worse it gets for his defendant. I have no idea why he is doing this!
Yay, this matter of intent had me confused. I know the prosecution said he doesn’t need intent, and the defense keeps talking about intent. I was not crazy.
I expected him to testify for the sole purpose of intent.
If I caught it, a juror may have.
For murder, there needs to be intent. I’ve said before that the best to hope for is manslaughter. As in Chauvin didn’t intend to kill, but he did so anyway.
Thanks belladonna 😊
Bugging the crap out of me the defense “misrepresentation” of things I know I heard.
The prosecution have me back my sanity, LOL.
Felony murder doesn’t require intent to kill and that is what they charged him with.
I think you might be mistaken about ‘intent.’ I won’t post a link here but there are good definitions available with a quick Google search. ☺️
I will google. I always welcome educating myself.
“Sometimes the line between manslaughter and murder isn’t clear”.Proving intent is the difficult part. Yes, I read about the difference. “Manslaughter is an unlawful killing that doesn’t involve malice aforethought.” Maybe second degree murder?
I think malice can be proven. Reckless disregard for life, proven. I think it was shown by the prosecutor that Chauvin should have known that was a deadly move. We have to leave it to the jurors who saw more than we did.
Yes, he knew exactly what was happening. Whether or not his left hand was in his pocket or not is irrelevant, it’s clear he was using THAT HAND, THAT ARM to put more pressure on his left leg which was on George’s neck. I’m sorry, for being so emotional, I’m not a snowflake I swear! I’m just glad we’re all here to express and talk.
They don’t need to prove intent to kill, or intent to break the law, just intent to do what he did (assault), which WAS a violation of the law, and resulted in death. The rebuttal pointed that out because Chauvin clearly thinks he is above the law; he didn’t intend to break the law, he intended to assault/mistreat/abuse George Floyd that resulted in death, and in so doing, committed a homicide which meets definition of second degree murder.
This is exactly what I heard that led to my confusion. Thanks.
It’s already been about 2 hours and that makes me a bit nervous that it will be a hung jury and seeing that it’s more white women and white people in general, i know for a fact that it might not end well. i thought it was more diverse than that…and with someone in the comments already speaking bad on Floyd when he’s not on trial, concerns me that some of those white women will do the same…ijs
So, I guess deliberations are from 9:00am until 7:30p.m.
Dear Lord, please give this lump excuse for a human being, and all others involved.. exactly what they deserve. Please help this jury realize how important this situation is 🙏.
I do believe the deliberation is or has already ended. Depending on where you are in this country, we should know today. I’m bracing, and I’m emotional.
Yes, he knew exactly what was happening. Whether or not his left hand was in his pocket or not is irrelevant, it’s clear he was using THAT HAND, THAT ARM to put more pressure on his left leg which was on George’s neck. I’m sorry, for being so emotional, I’m not a snowflake I swear! I’m just glad we’re all here to express and talk.
So Lawn Kid showed back up yesterday. He has a car! He cut my lawn, did some work around my house and I let him stay in my bedroom ( I’ve been sleeping on the couch to be near Banjo for years now that he is getting older.) He seems to be doing well, yet still a bit homeless. Clearly needs clothes. I bought him a pair of Levi’s that I never got to give him and he LOVED THEM. Like I thought he was going to cry. He didn’t seem to realize that he had picked out exactly what he wanted. He put them on right away and still talking about how cool the color was. I was just glad they fit because they were skinny jeans and he is skinny.
Anyway the reason I am rambling on about Lawn Kid again is because his car has very dark tint. Like it’s probably illegal. I am just paying he doesn’t get pulled over. I gave him THE TALK for the millionth time. The tint gives the police A REASON to pull him over. He seems sort of oblivious to the child that was murdered over an air freshener and expired tags. It’s a fine line between not wanting to scare him and worrying about his driving back and forth from Atlanta to Pensacola. I know I am not his actual mother, but she seems to be pretty useless. I don’t know how actual mothers have black teenaged sons DRIVING. I’m literally a nervous wreck.
I’m watching American Idol and The Voice with Banjo right now. I am so behind on shows. There has been a lot going on at my house. I am so behind and trying to catch up. I was offline a lot with Lawn Kid. I promise to get back on it. Thanks for sticking with me.
It’s a sad reality that you don’t give police any reason to pull you over, and as we know, being black can be reason enough. I thought you had given up on Lawn Kid, but I’m happy that you are still helping him.
The Jury is still out and we may not hear their decision today.
Someone in tv was saying they should really make a statement and co me back after 9:29.
I never gave up on Lawn Kid. He gave up on me for a minute. Hell he might be staying here again tonight He’s literally my kid but I do not know how to parent him in these times. I may have a fucking roommate and I do not want anyone in my house,
Does banjo like lawn kid? Dogs instincts and all.
I was thinking the same. If Banjo approves of him, then it’s good. He may also eat some of the food you cook and don’t eat yourself.
Yes. They are actually vere close.
Lawn kid is back outside washing my car. I already hugged him again. He literally doesn’t know about this trial. I keep trying to explain it but doesn’t watch the news, SAY HIS NAME! GEORGE FLOLYD. That could be my kid, MY LAWN KID. I didn’t ever give up on Lawn Kid. He gave up on me kicking his ass for a while. He can stay here.
Verdict is in, but we have to wait a bit yet.
Omg, I am so glad they reached a verdict. I still think it will be a guilty. 3rd degree or manslaughter.
Verdict will be read at 3:30 pm central time. The court house is sending all other employees home now and. Clearing mpls. Prayers please I live 10 miles away
Definitely prayers for you and all of Minneapolis. I hope and pray that this goes how it is supposed to.
I wish we could all talk in live time right now. This is making me so anxious. I think Chauvin will be found guilty, but who knows. I pray he is anyway. I keep flipping channels like one channel is going to have more insight…they don’t, I’m just anxious.
Guilty of third-degree murder! Guilty on all three charges!
Thank God!!!!!!!!
Utility on all 3 charges
Well, well. FINALLY, Chauvin seems like he cares.
I did notice he seemed a little uncomfortable finally. Thank goodness his bail was revoked and he was remanded into custody. Finally, some consequences. God bless this jury.
HALLELUJAH!!! GUILTY
I’m literally crying tears of joy that he’s been found guilty on all 3 counts.
Being from MN, a little bit of hope is what we needed!!!
I am Grateful to this Jury! Thank you for charging him guilty on all charges. And congratulations to the prosecution team. My heart goes out to Floyd’s family and loved ones.
Well it all happened. Sorry I was emotionally exhausted and sleeping, WE DID IT. Please don’t let our cities burn any more Lord. Let us all be together as one Amen.
One small step for man, one giant step for mankind.
So true!! Thank goodness!
Sending hugs to all!
The judge said sentencing in 8 weeks? If I was the guilty cop, I would beg the judge to give me my sentencing sooner. Jail is way worse than prison.
Crying.
OMG! THINGS ARE WORKING OUT. I am so happy.
I may just let Lawn Kid live with me.
I just pulled lawn kid in to watch it.we are watching it together.
I had to my fake son come inside. He has no idea about this. I ONE MORE TIME gave him the THE TALK. He will probably stay here again tonight, He has no idea why I made him stop washing my car. He dose not even know this is happening or what a moment this is. I am trying to teach him. He has no clue what is going on . HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I just want him to stay with me and be innocent.
OhhhhTT.
Your innocence sometimes is endearing. 😊
He better be the best son EVER. He has many aunts, LOL
Ask him what the date is, and we can gauge him. (Answer:4/20 weed day)
Yeah, this kid is just going to have to live with me.
I can’t put him out in the world. I need to protect him and TOMORROW we are getting that tint off his car, Not my kid. He will NOT BED NEXT.
There is something so comforting knowing Chauvin will be so uncomfortable tonight. Hope he thinks about what he did..
A policeman in jail. He will have to be put by himself and not general population, which is 23 hours inside the cell. Hope by sentencing he realized what he did.
He wouldn’t last long in general. Being sequestered is probably the worst punishment. He’ll go to federal because the hell that is jail is for people serving short sentences.
And he’s been out on bail. I don’t know how long he was in before bail, but he hasn’t had the experience of prison yet.
It won’t be local cops who may still support him? They will not be happy with him. He will probably have to be sequestered for a long time if not the duration.
So, they can lock him up and throw away the key, but sadly a reversal is always there.
But for now, he’ll be miserable.
Now will we see the other three go to trial?
There were cops on the prosecutions side. The look on his face when the verdict came down. Guilty, guilty, guilty.
Seeing the reaction of “finally, some justice” brought tears.
It was so emotional. The next cops need to plea. They are probably not having a very good night.
August is when the next trials are.
What will the others be charged with?
Aiding and abetting
If they are any kind of intelligent they will plea.
There is more than aiding and abetting. If you’re part of a crime that results in murder you are culpable too. We just saw a murder two and three verdict, so they may have to face charges too. (I can hope.)
He will go out the way Epstein did, save everyone tax dollars. I’m ok with that too.
I want him to suffer a bit.
I just came by to celebrate and rub in Nancy’s face that Saint George Floyd got justice!!
I was reading about this guy because we usually know everything about the defendant and the victims get lost.
He had 18 prior complaints!!
Him and George Floyd both did security at a bar. So he probably recognized him.
I am shocked 😲.
One of the next cops has 6complaints. The other 2,none.
I always felt there was some connection between them based on the time they worked security at the same place.
I haven’t read the comments yet.
I just came here to say Amen. Justice was served correctly today in one case. One very important case.
I had waited so anxiously the breath literally blew put of me with relief just hearing the first verdict, I started to hyperventilate as the continued guilty verdicts were read!
RIP George P. Floyd Jr. RIP peace now with your Mama. We will never forget you George.
well my “son” is a runner. lol. He took off in the middle of the night. I wake up periodically to make sure Banjo ….and now Lawn Kid….is still breathing. Banjo was fine and Lawn Kid is gone. I am too old to be raising a teenager! lol. If he comes back, we have to go get the fucking tint off of his windows. I don’t need him to have a reason to get pulled over.
He really didn’t know much at all about the George Floyd situation. I had to sit him down and talk to him about it. I don’t know where he is at the moment. I’m sorry that I am a bit behind on recaps. I am somehow having a real life. I’ll be back on board very soon.
You are a very caring person! I worry about you. I think maybe I don’t know enough about this young man to feel comfortable. My heart goes out to him but we need you safe and sound. Keep us up-to-date how you all are doing! ❤️
He’s a good kid. I trust him in my house and with my dog so that is sort of a big deal. I’m just trying to keep him alive because he is a bit…. unaware of what is happening in the world. I am just going to take his car and get the tint removed ASAP.
Ok, I trust your judgement. Keep us posted!
Playing devil’s advocate. Did the jurors find him guilty because he was guilty or because they were too afraid to not find him guilty? And I’m sure the defense attorney hightailed it down to the Appeals court first thing to file for a new trial and overturn this one due to Maxine Waters’ and Al Sharpton’s ill-advised comments to become more confrontational as protestors if Chauvin was not found guilty. It would have been better if those two had kept their mouths shut and let the system work. But for now it seems the jury got it right and Minneapolis can go back to semi-normal life till the other shoe drops.
Not having watched the trial or seen the evidence myself, I’m still going to err on the side of believing that there was enough credible evidence to find him guilty on all counts. I do feel that there was at least accountability in this case, if not justice (as many Black leaders are saying). It’s impossible to imagine how or why someone would continue to kneel on someone’s neck who was already restrained and passed out. While I am so relieved for George Floyd’s family that accountability occurred, I guess I find the whole thing so tragic (on all sides) that I don’t feel “joy”- this is not a “happy” situation. And I’ll probably be crucified on this site for admitting this because there are so many who seem to hate police (and in my logical mind, I do understand that because what many are doing is heartbreaking and sub-human), but- my dear brother, who I love with all my heart, is a cop. I know a lot about how the entire culture within policing (and the training) makes some snap- and I also know the hell they go through on the streets. And I also know it’s not an “excuse”, and something drastic needs to change.
For me, I’m crying so hard for George Floyd and his family, I DO believe that accountability was served, but I’m also extremely emotional because in my mind and heart, I think “there but for the grace of God could be my own brother”. I have no reason to believe that he is anything but a “good cop” (he was state police, then career FBI, retired, and is now a chief of police in a smallish town as his post-retirement gig). I’m just saying that this is so damn complicated, drastic change is needed, and I love my brother with all my heart. And who do we need when someone has broken into our house and endangering our life? Please don’t let us (as a people) become so filled with hate that we completely forget what cops do every day and the hell they go through, especially in big cities (and I know it’s hard, I do, and if my brother wasn’t a cop, I’d be so anti police I’d be one crying for defunding). I just can’t stop crying for everybody, and I’m praying so HARD for change. I’m praying that somehow, as hard as it is (but especially hard for Black people who, as a culture, have been brutalized), that we can rise above hatred.
I think everyone knows we need police. It’s just there are way too many young black men being killed for literally no reason. that has got to stop. We do need the good cops like your brother and the majority of the police force. But there are way too many dangerous police out there than need to be removed.
I completely and totally agree, TT. This whole thing is just hard, emotionally, because it hits close to home for me. Multiple and competing feelings happening. And I am fully aware (because these folks are close to me also due to the work I do) that Black folks have suffered brutally- really since they were forcefully brought to our shores, and it really hasn’t stopped. I know all these things. I was spilling out emotions, There is a huge (I mean huge) “Defund the Police” sign in out city- and while I understand the sentiment (and the idealism of those who truly believe that neighborhoods can “police themselves”, or “call the social worker” when something violent is happening)- I also think of the good cops, and how much worse the things they have to deal with are now, out on the streets, but they’re out there doing their jobs, putting their literal lives on the line, right under that sign (which is in a very violent part of the hood. It’s ALL hurtful- the brutal, bad cops, and the increasing demoralization and dehumanization of all cops, due to the bad ones. It’s truly a WHOLE shitstorm!