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The Derek Chauvin Trial

March 29, 2021 by tamaratattles 89 Comments

I sleep with the TV on and usually don’t wake up until afternoon. It’s just the struggle bus I  am on and I am tired of worrying about it. It is what it is. So I woke up today and opening statements were happening. I have no idea why CourtTV was the channel I was on. It is usually either Wendy Williams or The View that wake me up as they are on at the same time in Atlanta which makes my TV change channels. Somehow today, I got the trial. And I was able to rewind it all the way back. And then I stupidly changed channels so I lost it all.

All that is to say, I did NOT like the prosecution’s opening statement. More specifically, I did not like the attorney. I do not feel like things started off well for the prosecution based on very limited things I saw. I am watching now, but it is kind of a boring trial. As a “juror” I am already checked out and over it. I think the defense had me at the point where they said he had a lot of fentanyl in his system. But what I can’t get over is that he used a fake twenty for a pack of cigarettes. I wish I could go back in time and just buy him a pack of cigarettes. I live in a neighborhood where there is a lot of monetary discrepancy. And all I can think about is I could have saved a life for the price of a pack of cigarettes.

I totally had a talk with myself recently about sharing money with people. I need to stop doing that. I do not have a lot of money. But sometimes at the seedy places where I buy beer and cigarettes, I do sometimes pay for people or give a few handouts. Sorry back to court. WOW! The 911 dispatcher finally gets to the point. Now we are getting somewhere. She contacted a sergeant to tell them that something was wrong at the 911 call to Cup Foods. Apparently, the 911 dispatcher called a supervisor to state that something was not right with the call. She could see the video of the the site and immediately knew something was wrong.  That is interesting. Now it is lunch break.

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  1. tamaratattles says

    March 29, 2021 at 1:49 pm

    If you guys were around when I covered the George Zimmerman trial, I kept telling you he would get off if the jurors followed the Florida Law. And I was screamed at and vilified and that is what happened.I want George Zimmerman to Go DIE IN A FIRE. But that was not the point.

    The main problem with this case is the prosecutors are fucking boring. I have no reason (you know other than the whole racist cop kills a black man stuff) to get on their side. AND I AM COMING FROM A PLACE OF STRING THE FUCKING RACIST UP BY THE BALLS. I am telling you now and hear me later, this is not going well for the prosecution.

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  2. PlusOneForLuck says

    March 29, 2021 at 1:53 pm

    I’m watching right along with you, girl. I REALLY don’t like the defense attorney. Putting the victim on trial ALWAYS pisses me off. Even if everything they say is true – George Floyd didn’t deserve to die. Derrick Chaivin went WAY TOO FAR in restraining Mr. Floyd. Period. Drugs? So what. Counterfeit bills? So what. 8 min. & 46 sec. While bystanders are telling you he’s unconscious & he’s telling you he’s dying. That’s the story. Period.

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    • tamaratattles says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:03 pm

      That is the NEWS STORY. This is a trial. The prosecution has a lot to prove. Y’all get mad a me every trial. And that is fine, I can take it, But I’m a fake student of the law. I never wanted anything more than to go to law school. I didn’t want to practice, I wanted to go to law school. And I have sort of self educated because my LSATs were not high enough to get me into Harvard which is where I wanted to go. I’m not kidding. I’ve mentioned before I was given a scholarship to some off the highway place who wanted me to come there. That was no my dream. I wanted to be on the the law journal at Harvard where we all sat around and talked about legal stuff.

      Right now I am on the side of the defense. And by that I don’t mean I don’t think Derek is a racist piece of shit, I am SOLELY looking at the law. And SO FAR I am presuming innocence. And nothing has moved the needle.

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      • PlusOneForLuck says

        March 29, 2021 at 2:46 pm

        That’s fair. Innocent. The 911 operator pushes the needle a little and the video pushes it a lot – as long as they don’t play it too many times and the jury gets numb to it…. I guess it’s evaluating each witness as they come. The 911 operator (so far) is a check Mark in the prosecution’s column for me b

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        • PlusOneForLuck says

          March 29, 2021 at 2:53 pm

          Ohh and you’ll get no hate from me. Mostly jus prayers that you are wrong about the jury….

          I am – happy is the wrong word – but encouraged at least that they are showing the trial on all the news channels….

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      • Wags says

        March 30, 2021 at 1:41 am

        So true…he is already guilty by public opinion however in a court of law…it’s just not the same.

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    • belladonna says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:27 pm

      I agree with you about putting the victim on trial. That’s what they do with rape victims, like they somehow brought it on themselves. The real crime here is systemic racism. Like Tamara said, the trial will probably come to nothing.
      There is a real problem with cops being bullies. POC get the worst of it, but they are bullies in general.

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  3. belladonna says

    March 29, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    Do I think George Floyd was an innocent? No, he was shady as hell. Did he deserve to die for that? No. I’ve seen two conflicting autopsy reports, one saying it was heart trouble from the drugs, the other saying asphyxiation. Whatever the truth is, what I saw with a cop kneeling on a neck was wrong.

    Thank you for posting this. I also tend to give to the homeless. Not the ones with signs, but the ones you know and can see struggling.

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  4. belladonna says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    There are the carotid arteries in the neck too, so even if you can breath, compressing those means no blood to the brain. So he could be saying “I can’t breath” while he’s about to pass out.

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  5. belladonna says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    Add an “e” to breath. Sigh.

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  6. Judith Vance says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    al sharpton was calling for jury nullification during the pre-trial festivities on the lawn. what little i know about this case makes me think that was unnecessary and overkill.j

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    • tamaratattles says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:32 pm

      Al Sharpton is a moron and I apologize for the entire state of Georgia.

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      • Navymommy says

        March 29, 2021 at 3:31 pm

        Sharpton is shady, race-baiting for profit motherfucker. A dear friend of mine has family that grew up with that turd. He was always a conning grifter POS. He is an embarrassment to the community he came from.

        In the law, you take your victim as you find them. I don’t care what pre-existing conditions Floyd had, and he is a problematic hero, a counterfeit $20 does not get you the death penalty. Chauvin straight up murdered Floyd. Every time I hear that video, I get sick to my stomach.

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        • PlusOneForLuck says

          March 29, 2021 at 3:39 pm

          I STILL haven’t watched the entire video. It’s too traumatic… I have to turn it off every time it comes to the part where he asks for his mother … it’s just too much.

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        • tamaratattles says

          March 29, 2021 at 3:49 pm

          Sharpton is scum of the earth and Phaedra wants to be the new scum of the earth.

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        • belladonna says

          March 30, 2021 at 10:04 am

          A murder conviction requires intent, and I don’t think intent was there. I agree that Floyd did not deserve to die for what he did. But, the law needs intent and we can probably only hope for manslaughter.

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  7. tamaratattles says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    When the jury was impaneled they were asked if they could follow the law and presume the defendent to be innocent. I’m telling you right now they all lied.I feel like I am one of the only people who could do that. You have to be someone who is really into the law to understand that completely.

    To be good juror members with me, you have to erase the kneeling on the neck video, You have to erase the massive vigils and protests ACROSS THE WORLD!!!! All of that has to be forgotten. Can you do that and rely solely on the evidence?

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    • belladonna says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:35 pm

      I’ve been on juries a few times, and you have to adhere to what is the law. You can think/know he’s a racist shit stain, but do the facts say he murdered a man? Manslaughter maybe. Did he know what he was doing could cause someone to die? I don’t have a lot of faith in people not being dumb.

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      • tamaratattles says

        March 29, 2021 at 2:44 pm

        I have zero faith in people not being dumb. I was only called to jury duty once and I had moved from the state.:(

        I don’t think anyone on this jury can be impartial. They live there and there was a shit ton of news media. Had there been no media he could have had a fair trial. And even me presuming innocence here is going to get me a lot of hate. But that is where I start from. It’s day one. Let’s see where it goes. That is where I am starting. Every time.

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        • belladonna says

          March 29, 2021 at 3:05 pm

          I see the hate is already starting. Presuming innocence is what trials are meant to start with.

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          • tamaratattles says

            March 29, 2021 at 3:15 pm

            I agree but it is particularly hard in this case with all the media sort of sanctifying him. I am watching and reporting on this trial as a totally impartial juror. I am going to need the prosecution to prove that George Floyd died because or a racist POS cop kneeling on his neck. The fact that I am starting this process with the presumption of innocence, is going to offend a lot of people. But that is how the legal system works. I really hope I get to the point where Chauvin is responsible for the death. BUT THIS IS DAY ONE. If people are here to see me scream he is guilty, they will not get their wish

            I’m going to go on the evidence and then tell you what I think the jury will do. This often results in people HATING ME. I’m okay with that. I will continue to report on the evidence,

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  8. tamaratattles says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:28 pm

    Apparently, Floyd had lethal amounts of fentanyl in his body. As a fake juror, I am still presuming innocence. And I am ready for the fallout. Y’all hate me every trial (except Arias, lol). But I am simply warning you. I could see a not guilty verdict. BUT it is only day one.

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    • belladonna says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:48 pm

      I liked to watch LivePD and Live Rescue, and too much of the shows was using narcan on addicts who overdosed. Fentanyl is very deadly, and he may have died anyway without police intervention. It’s like only three grains of fentanyl and you’re dead. Drug use also damages your heart.

      I’m like you and would have to see all the evidence. What I do know is even if he is found innocent of murder, he should lose his badge.

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      • tamaratattles says

        March 29, 2021 at 2:55 pm

        This will be the entire case for the defense. And Lord only knows what will happen if this jury finds him not guilty. This will be a shitstorm either way.

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        • belladonna says

          March 29, 2021 at 3:50 pm

          The rage will be focused on him, but I personally don’t think this is the hill to die on. There is a huge mountain to attack, and it’s called opioids and how it causes so many deaths. I like to walk, and there is always the car parked near the neighborhood with a guy waiting to sell you your poison. There is a heroin addict who gets his delivered like you can order it like with ubereats. That is killing very many people.

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    • PlusOneForLuck says

      March 29, 2021 at 3:02 pm

      Everyone has a different tolerance. Mr. Floyd struggled with opioid addiction for a LONG time. His tolerance is would have been MUCH higher than someone who isn’t an addict. OD isn’t a viable defense IMO

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      • tamaratattles says

        March 29, 2021 at 3:07 pm

        Agreed and I guess we will get to that.

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    • Kat says

      March 29, 2021 at 6:35 pm

      I wonder though, if as you said, there is no way that this jury can be impartial (and that they probably lied when asked that question), then perhaps there’s a good chance that they are biased towards a guilty verdict (because, who wouldn’t be), and even if the prosecution continues to suck, the jury might still find a way to find him guilty- regardless of what is or isn’t presented in the trial?
      The “video seen round the world” in this case presents a different scenario than the George Zimmerman trial (or any trial without such direct, horrifying video evidence). Or, am I just being hopeful and naive? Could the fact that most jurors do not have legal minds or interests, actually end up producing a guilty verdict in this case, regardless of how weak the prosecution and how convincing the defence might ultimately be? Given the impossibility of finding unbiased jurors?

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  9. tamaratattles says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:35 pm

    I like to watch these trials if I am a juror. Completely impartial and presuming innocence, prove to me that the guy is guilty.

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    • NancyintheSmokies says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:49 pm

      I was high on amphetamines when my abuser knelt on my neck 40 years ago. Also stoned. I was gasping “I cant breathe” then went limp to fake death. It was asphyxiation, IMO.

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  10. Monique says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    Okay, so are you saying the law okays a grown ass man kneeling on another grown ass man’s neck? At the end of the day he killed George Floyd and he screamed over and over he couldn’t breath. But, that doesn’t matter here on this site. A damn shame.

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    • belladonna says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:50 pm

      Maybe read what is being said instead of having a knee jerk reaction? We are saying what happened was wrong and racist.

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    • tamaratattles says

      March 29, 2021 at 2:52 pm

      Of course not. I am reporting on a trial. And I understand that you want to be mad at someone, but I am not the problem here. I am here to tell you how the law works. And right now the prosecution is not doing a good job.

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    • Kat says

      March 30, 2021 at 8:56 am

      I actually think TT is doing the opposite. She’s watching the trial from the perspective of the law, while hoping and praying that Derek Chauvin will be proven guilty. Jurors in this country, no matter what we all want the outcome to be (a guilty verdict), are required to presume innocence. Guilt must be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, no matter who is on trial or what the emotions are behind the case.
      I’m with you- the video should be the “beyond a shadow of a doubt” proof (and it’s hard to believe that any other evidence that is entered could deny that proof). But, guilt must be proven “beyond a shadow of a doubt”. And sadly, there are other details that could strengthen the defense’s case (such as, they will try to argue that because kneeling on someone’s neck to restrain them is standard, approved police procedure, that the reason George Floyd died was because opioids affect the respiratory system, etc.).
      Nobody is saying that any of this is a good thing, and I haven’t seen a single comment on here where someone is saying that Derek Chauvin is innocent, but it’s the way the law works. TT is playing the role of an unbiased juror, and reporting back to us her observations. That’s it. And although I want Derek Chauvin to fry in hell, the case must still be proven (if it is humanly possible for the jurors to truly be unbiased, given the world wide publicity and justifiable outrage over this case).

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  11. Nantango says

    March 29, 2021 at 2:59 pm

    I get you, Tamara, but there are other things to consider: 1) Is the prosecutor an elected official? 2) Is he really doing his best to present all the damaging evidence? 3) Will he have to rely on the same police to provide him with evidence in the future? 4) Have local editorials supported either side of this case?
    “Officers of the Court” are also supposed to be impartial but are they? Did this indictment come from a Grand Jury or did public riots force the hands of the prosecutor? Inquiring minds like to know.

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    • tamaratattles says

      March 29, 2021 at 3:06 pm

      Nope. I am just an impartial juror here. I don’t think any of your points are relevant.

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  12. tamaratattles says

    March 29, 2021 at 3:03 pm

    I should make it even more clear right now for those of you had not watched a trial with me before. I am a trial watcher. I am educated in the law. I will be reporting on the LEGAL stuff and and not based on what you saw on the news, or your emotions, or how you feel.

    I told you back in the Zimmerman trial that he was going to get off because of the the stand your ground law. You have to follow the law. You can’t come in and just say he is a racist piece of shit. You have to follow the law, Of course I want him to be prosecuted. But someone has to present proof.

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    • belladonna says

      March 29, 2021 at 3:22 pm

      Yes, your feelings will have no impact on a trial. Most of you would be immediately dismissed if questioned as a potential juror. As Tamara has said many times, you presume innocence. Delete all of the hate you feel and look at facts. All of your pent up rage doesn’t apply to one case.

      Zimmerman, that guy was guilty but there was the stand your ground law. It was complete bullshit, but it was the law.

      Also, as a segue, what the hell is happening in Georgia? Making it more difficult to vote if you’re black?

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      • tamaratattles says

        March 29, 2021 at 3:48 pm

        Yep. Voting here is being an issue. I was at first not really allowed to vote at my voting place in the last election and then they FINALLY gave it back to us. It is hell hard to even find out where to vote these days. My voting site is moved ALL THE TIME. You never know where you are supposed to go.

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        • belladonna says

          March 29, 2021 at 4:11 pm

          I had my voting site moved when we voted out the Donald. The old white twats wouldn’t make eye contact and pretended I wasn’t there. California is blue, but there are pockets of racist assholes. I think people are pissed that they can’t tell my race.

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  13. Purplesilk says

    March 29, 2021 at 3:18 pm

    I know this is totally off topic and because of the seriousness of this trial I’m not sure is should ask this, but does the Defense Attorney sound and even look similar to Richard Thomas…John Boy Walton?

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    • belladonna says

      March 29, 2021 at 3:24 pm

      Thanks for putting that in my brain. Good night John Boy.

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  14. PlusOneForLuck says

    March 29, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    This witness (Alysha Oyler) is completely useless with bad video footage. The State could have skipped her completely

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    • Wags says

      March 30, 2021 at 1:53 am

      100% agreed

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  15. fixencase says

    March 29, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    The is prosecutor is so timid and terrible at questioning his witness.The 3rd witness (Donald Williams) has some very compelling information, but the prosecution is going to screw it up. I can’t imagine how he is going to do with the defense witnesses.

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  16. DawnMammer says

    March 29, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    I don’t think either lawyer side is jazzy. I also suspect the judge made it clear this was not to be a circus. Our city has already suffered enough. I think the prosecutor has done a great job so far.

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    • tamaratattles says

      April 1, 2021 at 10:31 pm

      The male prosecutor was good today. I’m really hoping for a conviction. But I am still predicting a hung jury at this point.

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  17. Karen says

    March 29, 2021 at 8:25 pm

    Tamara, I was really interested in reading your trial watch, but you’ve already lost me

    You’re starting off the same way you did regarding Brianna Taylor, and I just can’t deal with your right wing fans reading to jump in now.

    BTW. I worked in a convenience two, twice in my life. Never called the police over a suspect $20. There are cameras, and I could be wrong. I simply refused the purchase and let my boss know.

    Y’all have fun.

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    • Belladonna says

      March 30, 2021 at 4:53 am

      Good to know there are black Karens too.

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      • Karen says

        April 1, 2021 at 10:22 pm

        Interestingly enough, we’re not just named Shanequa.

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        • tamaratattles says

          April 1, 2021 at 10:34 pm

          Whoopi is that you? 🙂

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  18. jojersey says

    March 30, 2021 at 7:40 am

    Whether people want to admit it or not, Floyd’s use of drugs in no way makes it ok to kill him. Chauvan being a racist shit in no way means he did it. Those things about Chauvan’s racists beliefs only matter if he relied on that and killed Floyd because of it. I’ll likely get hate for this but I know a former prison guard who when they saw the tape told me they wouldn’t have let Floyd up but they may have adjusted how they had him pinned. He said way too many people claim pain, can’t breathe etc at first just to get an opportunity to escape or hurt the officer.

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  19. tamaratattles says

    March 30, 2021 at 10:43 am

    I am going back to bed….. but still watching…..

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  20. Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

    March 30, 2021 at 10:45 am

    Day 2: the martial arts witness, he really gives a good picture when he said the cop stuck his body cam in his face as intimidation. How horrible!! Trying to report “he witnessed a murder” and how emotional he is, is worth a thousand words.

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    • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

      March 30, 2021 at 11:12 am

      Donald Wynn Williams II is the witness. MMA fighter.
      I don’t think the defense is going to undo any of his direct testimony.

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      • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

        March 30, 2021 at 11:35 am

        Ugh. The prosecution isn’t helping with the re-direct.
        No rehabilitation of the witness, just making the cross more memorable.
        Disaster. The witness is falling……………..

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        • NancyintheSmokies says

          March 30, 2021 at 8:06 pm

          What happened? He was doing so well! I didn’t watch today (Tuesday) – working.

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  21. Jananell Gibson says

    March 30, 2021 at 10:48 am

    I agree. I think the prosecution is bombing on purpose in graciousness to the murderer.

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    • Kat says

      March 30, 2021 at 3:34 pm

      I guess the question then is, why would they do that, knowing the price that the city (and cities all over the country) will pay if the prosecution does not win? What’s the angle there, what would there be to gain? I would think the pressure to convict would be enormous. Serious question….

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  22. Fofeena says

    March 30, 2021 at 11:05 am

    I went to George Floyd Square on Sunday. It was beautiful and peaceful.
    I spoke with one of the witnesses who will be testifying at the end of this week or the beginning of next week.
    He told me his name but I forgot, there was a lot going on around me at the Square. He is from Mississippi, he witnessed the whole incident.
    He asked for prayers for himself and for the case. He believes that the cop will get off.
    And that really sucks. My city will burn, again.

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    • Fofeena says

      March 30, 2021 at 5:18 pm

      When they were showing the minors video today, this man was standing to my left, in between the garbage can and the bus stop.

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      • Fofeena says

        March 31, 2021 at 9:40 pm

        It was Mcmilliin. Bless that sweet sweet man.

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  23. Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

    March 30, 2021 at 11:18 am

    I think what might get a conviction is the fact that they are really making this a “NEVER SEEN before” situation .
    If they want to make this a “Rare occurrence” which is bullshit but if it gives permission to convict, so be it. For now.

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  24. Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

    March 30, 2021 at 3:26 pm

    I think what needs to happen is get the medical examiner on the stand, establish cause of death, and don’t lose the jury with filler and emotional but not evidence information.

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    • NancyintheSmokies says

      March 30, 2021 at 8:10 pm

      Absolutely. Swift and sure.

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  25. Fofeena says

    March 30, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    I wanted to jump through the screen when the cops attorneys were questioning the MMA fighter. Trying to make this witness look bad, he was trying to save a mans life! Hell yes he was mad and angry and saying all kinds of stuff.
    That man knows when people should be tapping out! He knew the cops should of gotten off of George Floyd! I would have been raising hell too! Ooohhhhh that got me so mad. I had to turn off my tv.

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    • Kat says

      March 31, 2021 at 2:13 pm

      I know, me too. The angle they’re going to try to push is that when police are trying to restrain someone, having to deal with angry crowds gathered around them at the same time creates an atmosphere of heightened pressure and stress (and more to deal with than the original person they’re dealing with), which then supposedly affects their ability to judge and act the way they would if they weren’t dealing with the crowds.
      I think it’s bullshit and I don’t buy it (because since the Freddie Gray death in my town in 2015, the gathering crowds, shouting, pushing and filming is just an every day reality of policing, and I would think that they’d be trained to deal with that extra pressure by now. Of course when there is no trust in the police by the community, it’s understandable that this is what people feel driven to do, to protect themselves. And by now, I would think that police have protocols to deal with these situations without “losing it”.
      I’m just speculating that this is one angle that the defense is using.

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      • Fofeena says

        March 31, 2021 at 9:50 pm

        We had a situation in Robbinsdale last week (city just outside of Minneapolis) where some kids jumped and stomped on an elderly man, carjacked him, when the cops caught up with the carjacking suspects, crowds gathered and filmed, one of the teenage car jackers was resisting arrest (tbh I do not know exact details and I don’t want to speculate) some media outlets said he spit in a cop, but I wasn’t there and the people filming didn’t catch the entire arrest- just the part where a cop, cold clocks this kid. There is so much anger and frustration with the police in my city.
        For a grown man to knock out a teenage kid in cuffs is just too much. The cops need better training. They need to be able to handle the increase in crowds filming and keep their composure, that’s their job.
        Innocent until proven guilty.
        Peopke in Minneapolis and surrounding cities, now have classes teaching bystanders to film and protect people who are being detained by police so that they are held accountable for their actions.

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  26. Robin says

    March 30, 2021 at 5:32 pm

    I’m curious as to why the officers felt the need to continue using force once the subject was in their control, cuffed, and not resisting. Generally that’s when you would sit them up or roll them over. Use of force is only needed to gain compliance but once that happens there should be no more reason for it. If a subject is saying they can’t breathe and feel sick, the officers should be using their training to render aide and call for help. At that point he was under their control and posing no threat. Chauvin had his hand in his pocket and did not appear at all concerned. Putting continued stress on a body already in distress is not what officers are trained to do. I am curious how they’ll get around that.

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  27. LisaLisa says

    March 30, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    TT, I watch a trial the same way you do, no matter how I feel about the crime, the defendant, the victim or public opinion.The Prosecutor is not doing a good job or presenting this case, he lost me in the opening statement. Some lawyers just aren’t built for a case of this magnitude. I wouldn’t say the defense attorney is stellar but he is doing a better job than the State. My fear for this case is whether it was overcharged based on what can be proven. Remember Casey Anthony’s jury was stuck on the fact that there was no exact cause of death despite the fact it was obviously homicide. For me, I wouldn’t need to know if the baby was overdosed, suffocated or strangled. No toddler duct tapes her own face and crawls into trash bags inside a car trunk, but there were people on that jury who refused to convict based on that. Sad. My fear for this case, is the contributing factors (drugs, heart disease, hypertension…etc) in George Floyd’s death, possible over charging and also Derek Chauvin being the main focus of the case. Dr. Michael Biden–who lies for no one–stated in his autopsy that it wasn’t actually the knee on the neck that prevented him from breathing, it was actually the officer with his knees pushing and holding George’s back to the ground. His lungs were compressed and he could not breathe in to take in air. You don’t really see the officers that are behind the car on top of George, you mostly see Derek Chauvin on his neck with that ” I could a shit ” expression on his face for almost 9 minutes. I watch that video and  it is insane that none of the officers thought after 1, 2. 3. 5…7…almost nine minutes, that it was enough and this man is going to die a cruel and  excruciating death for an insignificant non-violent arrest. I am also curious as to whether they knew one another previously. Apparently Derek Chauvin and George Floyd both worked at the same nightclub at the same time–although different shifts–as bouncers/security. My guess is there’s something there. I just pray both sides present their case well and the jury makes the right decision–whatever decision that may be. 

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    • tamaratattles says

      March 30, 2021 at 11:26 pm

      Yes the opening statements are everything and the attorney who gave the opening for the prosecution did not deliver. The defense attorney is also a more “likeable” person. Things are not going well at ALL. This is going to be a nightmare. Also, there are too many options to choose from for a conviction.

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  28. Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

    March 31, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    The prosecution needs to be mad, disgusted, offended by the crime. This prosecutor is soft.
    I missed the opening statement, but can imagine the lack of intensity.

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    • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

      March 31, 2021 at 12:28 pm

      Also, I think by the lack of objections, it shows that the defense isn’t 😟worried. Just to ruin his questioning, you object to break the attention of the jury.

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      • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

        March 31, 2021 at 12:33 pm

        Better yet, I would call for a sidebar, go up and ask “what time is lunch?” just to break up the testimony. I think I’d be a defense attorney that was ruthless. Lol.

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  29. tamaratattles says

    March 31, 2021 at 4:23 pm

    I had to stop watching today. I can’t watch the murder anymore. Today though we got footage inside the the store where Floyd was buying the cigarettes. He was clearly on SOMETHING. That is bad for the prosecution. I don’t see a conviction happening and am starting to wonder if that should even happen. This is a horrible trial to watch. Even worse than the Zimmerman trying when I saw he was not going to be convicted very early on.

    Why wasn’t the killer allowed to take the plea deal he was willing to take? I’ve never understood that part.

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    • sickandtired says

      March 31, 2021 at 6:22 pm

      Maybe you need to turn on your sound because you’re obviously missing a lot. Is it reasonable to pull a gun out within seconds and yell put your “fucking hands up” for a person who has allegedly passed a $20 bill (the officer didn’t even look at the bill when he walked into the store just took the mangers word)? Since when is it OK for a person to “point a finger” at someone and they go straight to arresting that person, with no questions. The officer didn’t see ANYTHING happen. No video, nothing but went and put a gun to a man’s face… George was not resisting (they walked him across the freaking street!!), he was scared….The body cams also revealed the passenger stating that the car was a friend of George’s sister or co-worker or something like that… Lastly, what does “being on SOMETHING” matter? I’d argue that a huge majority of the people police encounter/arrest are on something. Not justification for death. So if they figured, like you, that he was on something they should have been paying even more attention to his health knowing he was in a “fragile” state. Because surely they are fully aware of the slowed down bodily functions that occur when you’re on SOMETHING. SMH

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      • tamaratattles says

        March 31, 2021 at 7:06 pm

        The entire defense will be predicated on two things. George was high (and apparently confessed on camera to “hooping” which is a drug thing apparently). So the autopsy report will be huge. The other thing that has to happen is proof of intent. That is a high bar that should not be “sprinkled through the prosecution’s case” but rather CLEARLY STATED IN OPENING STATEMENTS.

        I am on the same side of this as you are. But I have been watching criminal trials for decades. I am telling you is that it is looking better and better for the fuckind defense every day, and this is THE PROSECUTION’S case. The defense hasn’t presented a case at all yet. The prosecution has to clearly prove an awful lot of things to convict this man. And right now IN MY OPINION they are doing a crap job.

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        • sickandtired says

          March 31, 2021 at 9:02 pm

          Chauvin is charged with second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter… The defense has to convince the jury that it was just a coincidence that George died at the exact same time he was under Chauvin’s knee with his hands behind his back… His “underlying condition” may have been the reason he died, however it did not cause his death at that moment. Pretend George is asthma and Chauvin is Covid-19. Covid is the cause of death)… If the cops don’t know a person’s medical history, it’s probably a good idea to simply let them breathe…… This trial has forced me out of many years of lurk mode. So disturbing/frustrating…We’re on the same side, but I just can’t take anymore impartial juror talk. I only want to hear one side, my side, the side that’s sure there will be a conviction and long sentence. 🥺

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  30. tamaratattles says

    March 31, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    How was George Floyd driving a Mercedes SUV to the corner store when he had to use a fake bill to buy a pack of cigarettes. Has anyone addressed whose vehicle that was?

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  31. tamaratattles says

    March 31, 2021 at 5:32 pm

    How many of these body cams are they going to make the jury watch? THEY ARE GUT WRENCHING. I Have to put them on mute and hope they move on to something else less graphic. Then they just start it all over from another angle. Floyd was refusing to get in the back of the car because he was claustrophobic. However, one of the officers offered to roll the window down for him (which would have helped me) but he just could not get in the car.

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  32. Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

    April 1, 2021 at 11:53 am

    We have to consider a hung jury. Just the way we see things so different here is a make-up of a jury.
    Bet it will be a long deliberation.

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    • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

      April 1, 2021 at 11:55 am

      I think the trial will be won or lost by the defense.
      Prosecution is useless, I wonder at times who they are representing.

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      • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

        April 1, 2021 at 12:49 pm

        Since his intent is going to be the crux of the charges, I imagine Chauvin will testify.
        Possibly a opportunity to get inside his head.

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  33. Kathy Lilley says

    April 1, 2021 at 1:08 pm

    Somewhat related- I’m obsessed with the OWN series, Queen Sugar. The episode this Tuesday that dealt with the effects of the death of George Floyd on the members of the family featured in this show touched and shook my soul.
    I know emotions can’t be part of the actual legal proceedings related to this trial, but they sure are a part of things for people, and will be a HUGE part of things post-trial.

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    • Kat says

      April 2, 2021 at 6:47 pm

      Sorry- the comment above is actually Kat. My stupid computer auto-filled (nothing to do with me of course, lol)

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  34. Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

    April 2, 2021 at 11:19 am

    I’ve seen this Lt. Zimmerman before. Hunh. Can’t recall where but his voice and face he’s definitely been involved somewhere.

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    • Cheryl B. (cherylannburke1) says

      April 2, 2021 at 4:31 pm

      First 48 has filmed in Minneapolis enough to recognize Lt. Zimmerman. 😊

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  35. Kat says

    April 2, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    I haven’t watched any of this on tv, but following it closely. He’s the one who stated that kneeling on the neck of someone who is already handcuffed is tantamount to “deadly force”, right? Hard to imagine the jury seeing that any other way, I would imagine.

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  36. tamaratattles says

    April 2, 2021 at 7:14 pm

    Today was a great day for the prosecution. They need more days like this.

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