I haven’t been able to watch this on Wednesday nights because there are two Bravo shows. I did managed to get a little bit spoiled on Twitter last night. People were losing their minds over the Chris and Paige situation. And apparently, Pastor Cal finally shows up to counsel the couples. So, I’m ready to get going on this MAFS recap.
Haley & Jacob
These two are not even speaking to each other. They did not ride to the airport together. Haley asked to have her seat assignment changed so she wouldn’t have to sit next to him. Haley has been hurting his feelings lately and the debacle with the “girls nights” that he was not invited to may be the last straw. Jacob thinks that Haley has a boyfriend. His feelings are hurt that she didn’t want him to go to drinks with her and the others the last night in Vegas. They fight immediately. They spend their first night in separate bedrooms. Jacob has apologized for calling Haley a liar.
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Jacob is weird at Haley’s apartment. Here place is very classic and his is going to be Wayne’s World. Jacob’s three dogs immediately jump on Haley and beg for attention when she comes through the door. Gee, I wonder where they learned that from? Jacob shows Haley all of his 80s clothes and shoes and miscellaneous crap. We did not see the backyard beach resort he talked about for hours at the reception. Jacob’s dogs are mean to Haley’s dog. Later, they meet with Pastor Cal. Jacob explains his insecurities. Haley basically doesn’t want him to touch her. Yet in the end they both say they want to make things work. I don’t think Haley does. She’s waiting for an acceptable time to bail.
Brianna & Vincent
Brianna starts bossing Vincent around the minute they get in the apartment. She is a neat freak and that would drive me insane. Either I zoned out when they went to each other’s real homes, or they haven’t showed it yet. But Pastor Cal has showed up to counsel them in their new apartment. They both tell Pastor Cal that they are very happy in their marriage. But are they really? They both say they have met the person they want to be the rest of their lives.
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The topic changes to foreseeable issues in the relationship. Vincent brings up that respect is important for him. So, her delivery at times is abrasive to him. Because, she’s so damn bossy. He says he is fairly laid back but there will be a point where he will bark back. He seemed very uncomfortable sharing this information. And she seemed shocked he felt that way. Also, he is wearing a dress shirt that is two sizes too small for him. Why didn’t she pick another one for him? Later Vincent visit’s Brianna’s place. She has a huge closet. He helps her pack. His apartment was nice too.
Later, Vincent pops some champagne to celebrate moving in. Some of it sprays out on to the floor. She makes these little jabbing insults like “leave it to you.” Then the fact that some got on his shirt was “real cute” and “real Vincent of you.” She’s quietly emasculating this guy and I don’t even think she knows she is doing it. It’s subconscious. You can see his mood changing rapidly. They go in the closet and close the door to the cameras. Brianna asks if he’s okay. He says he is just tired of her smart comments. She is clueless. They try to talk about it and it doesn’t go well. Vincent takes his backpack and heads to his place. đ
Virginia & Erik
Virginia keeps talking about wanting to have her space. Girl, you are going to have space because Erik is going to be gone flying for days at a time. Their flight home and first look at each others apartment was pretty much uneventful. Apparently, Virginia has cats and Erik is allergic. Erik’s apartment is a very clean, very modern bachelor pad.
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Pastor Cal shows up and these two really need him. They talk about the age difference. It’s really more of a maturity issue. Erik says that she doesn’t know the difference in being married and having a boyfriend. She has already gone out for a night without him and thought it was weird that he wanted her to text him when she got there. Then Virginia says that sometimes she sleeps over at her guy friends house on the couch. Pastor Cal tries to explain to her that is unacceptable.
Paige & Chris
Next we discover that Paige is moving in to the new apartment alone. Apparently, on the flight back to Atlanta, Chris informed her that he was going to fly to Chicago. Eventually, Chris returns to Atlanta and shows up at the apartment. But he would not allow production to film the conversation with Paige. Since when is that okay? After the conversation, Paige calls production to tell them what he said. He told her he is still in love with his ex and wants to get back with her. She’s crying. He says he has already spoken to a divorce attorney. She’s angry. She wants to air out all his bullshit with Pastor Cal and then she is done. There was lots of cussing and tears.
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Did Paige have family at the wedding? She needs a dad or a brother to come kick the dude’s ass. Wait! WHAT! On the ad for the next episode, we see the baby mama with Chris talking to Paige. Pastor Calvin stops by. Will she finally get some help? Paige tells pastor Cal that she slept with Chris on their wedding night because he wanted to and she felt obligated. She had sex with him again the night morning to avoid upsetting him. This is a highly triggering scene that make me physically ill. How does Pastor Cal not know about the baby’s mama? How could he not know this. Paige says they have had unprotected sex pretty much every day! Now he is all caught up to sped.
Chris Finally Shows Up To Therapy
Chris waddles his fat ass in the room with a smile on his face and gives a wave like nothing awful is going on. He is having trouble spitting out his cover story. He mutters about divorce. He won’t answer Pastor Cal’s questions about why he keeps having sex with Paige is he is not attracted to her. Paige can’t even say that she wants a divorce. Girl. WAKE UP! Pastor Cal tells us on the way out that normally, he would fight tooth and nail for the marriage. But not this one.
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After Pastor Cal leaves, Chris starts apologizing again. He says he just hopes she doesn’t hate him. Then he whispers some kind of shit in her ear. There were no subtitles. Oh for fucksake. Paige tells production that he whispered that his fear was falling in love with her. And just like that, she thinks there might be a chance. She need to seek some serious therapy.
Clara & Ryan
Ryan goes to bed around 10 or 10:30. Clara goes to bed around 1 am. He wants the room completely dark. She likes to watch TV in bed. This is their first issue. Ryan actually has a house. Every drawer Clara opens has just random stuff inside. The house itself is nice though. These two are in a good place when Pastor Cal arrives. Oh they haven’t had sex yet! That surprised me. They are intimate, but they are taking it slow. Ryan wants more of an emotional base before they have sex. Clara ready for sex but she is learning to slow down a bit.
I never comment on these post, but I have to say it’s amazing to me that with the pandemic going on that producers allowed Chris to fly from Vegas to Chicago back to Atalanta then show up to film with no mask, putting everyone at risk. It’s bad enough how horrible he’s treated Paige, but come on, this is making me so nervous for everyone working on this show.
I am sure this is pretty much obvious to everyone, but Chris is an awful human being. There is something seriously wrong with him. I agree that Paige needs some therapy. Her self esteem is on the floor. I can’t decide if she wants to stay on the show or if she really thinks there is some hope to their relationship. All of the viewing audience can answer that question for her.
Haley does not like Jacob. I think that’s the bottom line. She’s just not that into him.
I was surprised by the fact that Clara and Ryan have not had sex. I guess he is being smart about not rushing into things.
Oh Paige, I thought you were pretty AND smart. Why are you even talking to Chris at this point??? He has used you and manipulated you beyond belief! God has given you so many signs to divorce this jerk!
Virginia thinks she’s still in college and hanging with the frat boys – she is not ready for marriage at all.
Still have hope for Brianna & Vincent and Clara & Ryan.
Haley and Jacob don’t even like each other to have any common interests – doomed.
I’m so tired of Paige groveling for crumbs from Chris. He’s totally mind- fucked her as well as lots of unprotected sex. Why would you want to risk pregnancy and disease because of some dude you just met? I hope she gets tested because God knows how many women he’s been fucking.
Virginia is immature. Saying she goes out Thursday, Friday, and Saturday? Is that her hobby? She keeps going on about needing space but she freaked out when she found out he travels for work and would be gone several days at a time. She was in no way ready to be married unless it was to a fellow alcoholic. Another epic fail on the part of the “experts”.
A few episodes ago, I had wanted to post wondering whether people were being cast for maximum drama rather than matched for compatibility by the “experts”. For various reasons, wasn’t able to at the time, but saw your post, which did a much better job than I would have.
Even given different schools of thought within the ‘science’ of compatibility, several of the “matches” are so questionable, it seems like it’s about wanting reality show conflict.
e.g. Virginia: “I claim I want to be married, but want to change nothing about my single binge-drinking-as-a-goal-in-itself, partying lifestyle. Even though I will have the freedom from my husband being away for half of each month, I’m already worried about not being able to party enough when he IS there.”
I also agree that among the egregious list of ways Chris has wronged Paige, gas-lighting is up there. Was so sad to hear that she continued to bang him all the way through. Object lesson in how many women think sex will keep a guy close and connected to them, that somehow then they haven’t been fully rejected. And the guy is just getting p*ssy, all the while devaluing the woman who still wants to be with him despite how he’s mistreated her. You can just imagine how much that fed Chris’s over-sized ego. And then his whispered comment to fuck with her emotions further, It so looked like a play he’s done before.
Good point about hoping sex will strengthen/keep/make a connection. I can see how that might have come into play. It’s disappointing that with all Paige has to offer that it might have been the case. Paige should have been like Dude, there’s the door. Don’t let it hit you in the ass on your way out as soon as he told her he wasn’t into her. Remember Chris telling the bridesmaids Paige wasn’t his type because he normally dates pretty women? He was showing his true self from the get go. Who would say something like that to the bride’s friends? And they tried to warn her after that. Unfortunately, Paige keeps saying God put her here. I hope she realizes It wasn’t God. It was the “experts “. Nothing divine about this match.
You are on point! I cannot STAND Chris. I hate his big head, I hate his voice, he looks grimy, he’s so disgusting. And Paige, where are her family and friends? If that were my friend/family, I would be helping get her shit back to her house and assisting her in finding a divorce attorney.
Clara and Ryan have had sex. She said in a talking head that Ryan wanted to keep it to themselves.
I believe Clara said in that talking head that she and Ryan have a “physical relationship.” Based on what was said later to Pastor Cal, I think she meant to convey at that time that they are sexually involved, without disclosing to what extent, which we then found out later.
Why is Ryan lying about having sex, what is The big deal. I was feeling sorry for paige I donât feel sorry for her anymore she has become nothing but a rug for Chris and sheâs allowing it. Sheâs such a beautiful girl with a great body and low low low self-esteem. Haley and Jacob , Haley doesnât like him for sure he wants to try but doesnât look like she wants to.
Virginia likes to drinks way too much. Her face is really puffy, I have a bad feeling about her.
I didn’t see anything that said that Ryan was lying about holding off on sex. It’s only been a week.
I have theory about this meeting between Paige and Chris and the baby mama. Actually, I have two.
Scenario One : Chris just wanted to be on TV and the girl broke up with him right before came on the show. Then she wanted to be on the show and they hatched the baby idea. Boom! They are on a TV show! YAY!
Scenario Two: AND TO ME THE MOST LIKELY, it was the baby mama who insisted on the meeting. She wants to talk to Paige to find out if they have had sex and find out if all the bullshit he is telling her about Paige is true. Basically she wants Paige to validate whatever bullshittery he spewed. She want to know if she can trust what he tells her. NEWFLASH, NO! NO! SHE CANNOT!
I think both of those theories have merit. Regardless of what is true, I’m shocked that Paige would agree to the meeting. He has demeaned her in every important way in just a week! He’s lied to her. Abandoned her. Manipulated her. Used her like a sex toy. Gaslighted her. Humiliated and embarrassed her in private and in public. WHY would she agree to meet the baby momma of a man whom she should be dumping faster than a week old trout? It’s pointless! And if Cal or any of the others sanctioned or encouraged her to go shame on them.
I go with Scenario Two! Bullshittery – exactly!! And I bet Chris just LOVES drama between these two women. He looks diseased. Where did they find this guy? I would sue that show if I were Paige.
I didn’t watch but read a few recaps and Paige is either so desperate she will tolerate this BS or else she is in on it from the beginning and they just want to be on tv. Either way, they are irritating.
No she is desperate. You should have heard the hysterical phone call to production.
I think your scenario#2 is spot on.
Chris is likely manipulating his ex, charming his way back into her life as a family man. He is telling his ex girlfriend all types of lies and she wants to find out the truth for herself.
He didn’t become that big of a jerk during the show. He is an expert at it, Paige is just his latest victim.
I feel like a broken record but everything about Chris and Paige is so triggering and intensely disturbing. Knowing how deceptive and manipulative Chris is and how vulnerable Paige is, I can’t believe Pastor Cal left him alone with her. The push and pull he’s doing is definitely anxiety inducing. I’m sure the ex fiance wants to see if Paige’s story matched up with Chris’s, but I’m sure he also loved the idea of two women having conflict over him. Paige seems like a people pleaser who looks for and believes the good in people, which is a beautiful trait until a selfish narcissist comes along.
Virginia is extremely immature. Hopefully she grows up some through this process and they can still make it work. Hailey is checked out all ready so Jacob was acting out with the accusations. If there were mutual interests or an attraction to build off of there might be some hope, but it’s not there. I found it interesting how messy Ryan’s cupboards and drawers were compared to how neat and regimented he is. Then Clara who says she needs help with routine has her t-shirts neatly folded. Maybe just more of their ying and yang.
I think Brianna needs to understand what playful teasing is. Vincent giving her shit over her “drunk” TV was funny and playful. I don’t think she’d like it if he had said “That’s so Bri of you to leave your TV leaned over.” That being said he needs to learn how to effectively communicate what line was crossed because the sulking, leaving, and “you should know” bullshit isn’t helping anyone.
From one broken record to another, well said. Agree completely. Good analysis on Brianna too.
Good point about Cal leaving Paige with Chris. The “experts” not only screwed her over by inviting this jerk into her life but continued to fail her by not intervening once it became clear how abusive he is. He has her mind all fucked up. Her judgment is off kilter. She needs HELP! Not just Cal talking to the camera shaking his head.
Ok this why I’m totally disturbed by this episode. Paige and Chris opting for making a baby on the honeymoon. So he has sex with Paige even though not feeling it, then the family nonsense, next day tells her on the honeymoon ex is pregnant. Tonight she shares he wanted a honeymoon baby, so no condoms. Now this news is after she learns he impregnated the ex, and all accounts shes ok I’ll with this?! Chris is an idiot, user, manipulator, but Paige really. He tells you you’re not attractive, then you’re his queen, next hes getting back with baby momma, but wait for it, he could fall in love with paige. This vetting process, other than pulse checks how about a serious psychoanalysis! I can only take so much of Pastor cal pretending to be surprised by hearing chris totally snowed them. It makes you wonder who will come out the other side with these awkward matchups!
Haley and Jake, bless his heart! Opposites don’t attract but lets be real if he was a solid 10 in bed she’d find a way, cough cough paige put up with ALOT!! Vinny and bri you guys are still boring and will be on couples cam in 6 months after Brianna watches how cunty she was and learns to respect good ole vincent. The other two couples ehhh. Girl that wants to party, your hubby is gone 15days a month, plenty of drunken nights with your guy friends. And the other guy, will you just have sex with your wife.
Yeah, I like Paige and think she has a lot to offer but how could anyone have unprotected sex with a stranger? He talked a good game, I’m sure. He figured out what buttons to push with her pretty fast, classic narcissist behavior. Every time he says “God” he has her right where he wants her. But seriously, her continuing to have unprotected sex after he told her he wasn’t attracted to her? After he told her he’s still in a relationship with another woman? Come on!
I always assumed that they test them all for STD like they do on shows like Big Brother. Once season of Big Brother, they were already in the house when one guy tested positive for HIV. He left with no explanation and his daughter was in the house…
Also, the whole honeymoon baby was Chris and his family’s idea not Paige’s. That said I think Paige should have been on birth control coming into to the house and before the show. Because she is not ready to be a single mother. So I agree with you, but I wanted to add that they are probably all tested. HOWEVER Chris appeared to still be banging people AFTER the wedding.
Interesting about the testing. I hope that’s true.
Yeah, I remember Chris talking about a honeymoon baby (one of the many inappropriate things he said at the reception). If it’s true that he pressured her, that in itself is not cool and should have been a red flag. Even couples who get along great from the beginning talk about having children in a few years. I don’t know who would commit to having a child with a stranger on day one.
I hope we get to hear the whole story from Paige at some point. I don’t believe anything Chris says and I’m afraid what Paige says is tainted by Chris’s manipulation of her.
Who was he banging?
Also, I donât think you can test for all venereal diseases. Women must be cautious and protect themselves with strangers.
It looked like Paige threw caution to the wind because they were married and God ordained it in her mind. But he was still a stranger! Run Paige before you lose what shred of dignity you still have.
You can in fact test for all venereal diseases.
Vincent was making fun of her TV and her clothes and her shoes and then freaked out about a stupid little joke â and didnât even say anything when it happened!
I couldnât take living with someone so sensitive. Youâd be walking on eggshells about every joke. I mean maybe it came off a little meaner than she meant and wasnât very funny. But it was obvious she wasnât trying to say he was stupid.
Just like her âdrunk TVâ wasnât saying sheâs a sloppy drunk.
Just my opinion, but I think there’s a difference between making a joke about the fact the TV is leaning compared to “that’s so Bri to leave the TV like that.” Just like there’s a difference between commenting she has a lot of shoes to saying, “Of course you’d have a closet filled with shoes”. She even felt salty enough about his TV comment that she commented on his, so I don’t think she’d like her form of “teasing” if he did it back to her. But he also handled it very poorly. He seems really immature and like he doesn’t know how to express his feelings in a constructive way.
As the youngest sibling of five, I’ve gotten the kind of teasing that Brianna dishes out my entire life. And at family gatherings it multiplies. It’s sort of a cumulative effect. And Brianna does it ALL DAY LONG. So I understand why Chris removed himself from the situation. He tried to blow it off by saying he was just tired. But when she forced him to explain, SHE got pissed at HIM and showed no remorse for hurting his feeling.
ARRGHH! Why aren’t they putting a stop to this Paige/Chris mess? I am sure that the contract has some kind of wording about the truthfulness of the statements and Chris has certainly NOT been truthful!
Poor Paige! She has been duped and gaslighted and it doesn’t seem like there is an end to it.
I am a relative newbie to MAFS but this seems extreme. I want to throw something every time I see his smirking face!
I’ve started watching this since I started reading your recaps causes my bp to rise . I hope the money is good.