Tonight’s Below Deck recap is going to be wacky and sad as Jackie and David Siegel appear as the primaries. Click here to find out what happened when they were on Below Deck Med. Jackie refers to herself as The Queen of Versailles because she has been building a sort of replica in Florida for over a decade. The 90,000 square foot monstrosity still has about 18 months to go before completion with an expected completion date in 2022. Maybe. This is an extremely whacky family. And sad because their daughter died of an overdose at age 18. This will clearly stir emotions in Captain Lee as his son also died of an overdose in July of 2019. The Siegel’s love reality TV. In addition to their own show, and Below Deck Med, they have appeared on Flipping Out, and Million Dollar Listing LA.
WTF Is An Energy Healer?
But before the new guests arrive Francesca needs to deal with Elizabeth and her sexcapade in the guest cabin. Elizabeth is just horrible. I don’t know why some of you are on her side. She’s incompetent and entitled. That said Rachel and Izzy have said that there are things that Francesca did that were not shown with regard to her treatment of Elizabeth. Yeah, and? Neither of them tried to claim that Elizabeth was in any way competent. Just that Francesca wasn’t nice to her. Elizabeth would not have lasted two charters with Kate. I think Francesca gave her too many chances. Elizabeth goes to call her “energy healer”. It’s not surprisingly ridiculously stupid. If she had the common sense to be embarrassed she should have been when Captain Lee caught the phone.
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It’s Elizabeth’s 30th birthday. She is sure there will be no repercussions for her tryst in the guest cabin and has very high expectations for James to do something very romantic for her birthday. The delusion is strong in this one. Francesca calls a meeting with Elizabeth. I’m trying to listen to Elizabeth’s prostests over her job review but I just want to reach through the screen and give her a hairbrush. She literally looks like she had another roll in the hay. Meanwhile, Rachel is challenged by Jackie and David Siegel because their food requests are polar opposites. She wants fancy shit and he has the taste of a fourth grader. She’s going to just focus on pleasing Jackie. Smart girl.
Elizabeth’s Job Is On The Line
Francesca is at the end of her rope with Elizabeth. She is going to Captain Lee about this. Ashling is very supportive of Francesca. When Francesca tells Captain Lee about James and Elizabeth he calls up Eddie and says if they want to play hide the salami in their cabin that’s fine, but not on the guest beds. He calls James up and tells him if he sleeps in a guest cabin again, he can pack his shit and leave. Francesca tells Captain Lee she wants Elizabeth gone. This is not the first time she has asked for him to send her home.[ Sidenote: I love the tropical flowers. I am totally a flower person.] Ashling and Francesca agree that it would be easier to send Elizabeth home than have to deal with her anymore.
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Because the Siegel’s are the next guests and very, very rich (allegedly) with many requests, Francesca and Ashling decide it is best to keep her. At least for this charter. Rachel has all sorts of cool, elaborate things planned. So she lives to fuckup another charter. But they want to keep Elizabeth away from the guests as much as possible. The Siegel boys already seem like fucking idiots. They asked Captain Lee what is job was. Basically, it’s to keep fucktards like them alive. Which could prove difficult. My Asian/YANKEE dog keeps insisting on going out in the frigid, damp weather. After all these years I still haven’t turned him into a southern dog or even a damn carpetbagger. He loves the cold. There are only four guests and 3,000 pieces of luggage.
A Club No One Wants To Be In
Oh it looks like Jackie brought a girlfriend, Nita. And David points out that he has 14 children total across three wives. But these two boys are the oldest of “this generation.” He’s eighty something. Let’s hope he lives to she the House of Versailles completed! And fourteen kids plus a wife is a whole lot of splitting of the inheritance. That will be a contested will and a complete shitshow eventually. Everyone leaves the bridge but Captain Lee, Jackie and David and the sad stories about losing a child to drug overdose begins already. It’s only been about a year at this time since Captain Lee’s son, Josh, died. It’s been five years since Victoria died. The Siegels tell him it will get easier. I’ve seen no evidence of that with my friend, Captain Lee. Not yet. And it breaks my heart.
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Somehow cough Francesca? cough the Queen of Versailles had to wait on her mahi. And Rachel is pissed. Rachel wants to talk to the captain about service. There is a discrepancy about whose fault this is. Rachel clearly hates Francesca still to this day. But to be fair, it looks like it was just a misinterpretation of the ticket. The crew becomes increasingly concerned about Covid. Elizabeth whines to her friend about her 30th birthday being depressing and uneventful. Gurl, you are on a yacht in the Caribbean and on a TV show. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Captain Lee Is Apprehensive About Dinner
I realize James is an ass, but what the heck happened to Ro? He seemed like such a nice guy. Then he tells Izzy that her promotion to lead deckhand is not a big deal. She just got promoted to “lead shammy.” Wow. Way to be a dick, Rob. You are last shammy. Go fuck yourself. James is just as bad saying that Eddie only promoted her because now if something goes wrong it is on her instead of Eddie. Go fuck yourself twice, James. And don’t do it in the guest rooms.
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I’m really worried about Captain Lee even rewatching this episode. It’s just going to make his grieving more difficult. But he goes off to dinner anyway. At dinner they find out that Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson both have Coronavirus. David Siegel is clearly a Trumpster because his response to the news was, “Coronavirus is no worse than the flu.” Two months later he had aquired PPP loans and offered to temporarily hire travel bloggers to promote his resorts according to an email obtained by the Orlando Sentinel. The email, promising the recipient “THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR A SCAM,” said, “We have federal money available to us at our company, to hire temporary employees.” WOW. It’s just like the flu until no one visits your timeshares.
White Privilege At 18 and 19
I can’t with Captain Lee crying. I’m crying. We are all crying. 🙁 Captain Lee comes back to the table. I admire him for that. He hugs the whole family. Jackie and David and the boys were so kind.
Francesca gets a shitty “cake ” and no birthday sex. James did nothing and didn’t even hide the salami! Hardly a tragedy in the overall scheme of this episode. The Siegel boys drink a shit ton of Hennessey. Then they raid the bar. They threaten to jump off the boat. The consider stealing the tinder. They want to go in the hot tub. The staff tries everything to get them to bed. Eventually, after a temper tantrum or two they both go to bed.
That was heavy.
Wow. We have addicts in our family and it’s horrible. Well, it was when they were alive. It’s such a fucking selfish thing – addiction. Don’t jump on me, it’s a disease, but of all the diseases, this one is selfish. I hate it. Meanwhile, those two boys obviously learned nothing about addiction. I do NOT like this family as when the father sat down and said “I wonder what poor people are doing” I wanted to smack him. I HATE when people say stuff like this. What makes you any better than anyone else? Your $? Is that what you think you arrogant POS? I’m sorry you daughter OD’d but you Sir as an asshole. And PS, pay attention to your two young kids cuz they are trouble. Spare the rod and spoil the child to be biblical here. And I can’t stand Elizabeth. And Rachel has a few screws loose. James and The other one (ron?) (rob?) need to fall off the boat. Such little boys. I only like Captain Lee. That’s why I watch and to see him in this much pain is heartbreaking. And it was him and his wife’s only biological child. That’s even worse.
Hi Gigi, with all do respect, my family member did not make the decision to be addicted. She was not selfish.. the guilt and the pain she had for not being able to be there for me and our family … was… was killing her as much as what she was using She wanted OUT. But she couldn’t… I’m sorry for your losses as well.
Jenniper – I feel your pain AND Gigi’s. I’ve experienced both feelings re: family members with addictions and other issues surrounding them.
Refusing to try is selfish. And there are those. I’ve iced my cousin out of my life because of his selfish refusal that we should just tolerate his abuse while he refuses to even TRY with doctors and it FUCKING HURTS. It PISSES ME OFF.
But I see others trying, and failing, then trying… having some success… and then it overwhelms them. I can’t be mad at them any more than I could if they died of cancer.
You aren’t getting what I meant by selfish. Addiction IS a disease so therefore it is not a personal decision. But cancer has tons of meds to help it, my UC has tons of meds to cure it, MS just started getting new meds to help it, but addiction? NO MEDS to help like many other diseases. That is what I mean by selfish. I’ve been on an SSRI for 20 years, it’s meds to help my anxiety, etc. But addictions? There aren’t any meds to help in the way SSRI’s can help. Make more sense? It’s not the person with the disease that’s selfish, it’s the disease that is selfish.
This episode was extremely sad. I feel so bad for Capt Lee and his wife. I pray to never be a member of that club. This had to be hard for him to film, but maybe, even though these people are whacky as hell, maybe it was a little bit cathartic to talk with them about his son, just for a moment. You know the pain never leaves him, and he’s opened the door just a crack to that pain w/Francesca & Eddie, just briefly.
I’m team Francesca and it pisses me off that Rachel is team Elizabeth. I was really hoping they would get rid of Elizabeth tonight. TT you’re right, Kate would’ve already chewed this bitch up & spit her out.
Indeed. Elizabeth is incompetent and should go; so should James and now just for his fling with Elizabeth. He is more than rude to Izzy and brings Rob along with him. In the real, non-TV, corporate world, they would both be on performance plans or fired because of their attitudes and behavior.
Also, I get the Rachel is a crazy talented chef, but she is out of control and insane when she drinks. She puts the staff in danger and harasses other people. She should be gone.
I am liking Francesca who have Kates shoes to fill ,and Aishling (I think) is a wonderful stew.
Also, and this may be unpopular, I am a bit surprised the Capt Lee is talking so much more about his son’s death. Capt Lee does not seem the type to share all this on a reality show. It probably does help other people, but I just don’t see this as his normal behavior, even with a very tragic event in his life.
TAM, agree.
However grief has its own suitcase (shrink talk – not mine) and you don’t get the choice when to unpack it – it hits In waves.
I found his vulnerability, beyond.
We can all be tough on the outside, handle your job – life…but when true tragedy hits.
For some we collect ourselves, then someone sees you – knows & shares the same pain. Found it truly charming, tough guy – breaks down. Always liked him, last night I wanted to give him a hug.
Tam, it’s kind of a coping mechanism the first few years after losing an adult child to drugs, at least that’s been my experience. EVERY thought is on the child we lost, and it’s difficult in social settings, to concentrate on anything other than everyone’s comments about their own kids, trigger, seeing someone’s own addiction, trigger, seeing someone’s kids getting wasted while the parents allow it, major trigger. And letting people know is a sort of heads-up, for when we break down emotionally, at any possible moment in public. You’re exactly right though,, it is weird to see this side of him, but only because I’ve been through it, I can say I’m not entirely surprised by him opening up about his son’s untimely death. My heart goes out to him and his family.
Mother ATX I am so very sorry for you unimaginable loss.
Rob started out so nice only to now reveal himself to be a total Dick, he is acting like he is from South Africa or something.
LOL. No offense to South America. But I get it.
Thank god those boys were under Ash’s watch and. It Elizabeth’s.
I’m unfortunately a member of “that club” and I’m really passed off at the “Queen of Versailles” and her husband. Let me preface what I’m about to say with my own experience so know one feels the need to call me out. My 25 yo daughter dies of an overdose in 2016, like their daughter. I LOVE BEING A MOTHER and put in the work to be a good one. Back to the Siegels. The way they carry on about their daughter’s death, like its The Red Fucking Badge of Courage and allow their UNDERAGE sons, to drink alcohol and be intoxicated just PISSES ME OFF. The Siegels must guilty of breaking some law, with regard to their sons’ intoxication in Antigua. I’d love to see them charged with something. They’re setting their boys up for failure in a game of Addiction Russian Roulette!
Yes, “covid is nothing more than the flu” It’s a hoax!
OH ! … THAT’S why they added outside additional freezer next to me. Fuck the fuck off with that.
To be fair, back in March a lot of people thought covid was only a very bad case of the flu. There wasn’t enough info and conflicting reports across the board plus it was almost unimaginable how awful it would get. Obviously now we know differently. You have to take discussions of covid during that time on all of these shows with a grain of salt.
Sorry, first time posting, long time reader.
And actually, although covid is very contagious and can be deadly especially to vulnerable populations, for most people it is a flu. The vast majority of people survive it with anything from no symptoms to awful flu symptoms. It’s still prudent to take proper precautions because who wants to take the chance? But the reality is it’s true that for most people getting covid is like getting a flu.
I’m not
No it’s not Lucinda.
A very dangerous post, I just buried my father in law last week….2 time cancer survivor…. wasn’t the flu, he died from COVID-19.
I find the recklessness in your post, disarming..
But go do you – just a flu bug…….till you have to make funeral arrangements.
LuluC, I got you. And may I send you my most sincerest condolences. Some people will never get it. Unfortunately until they themselves or someone very healthy and close to them doesn’t make it through “the flu”
Yes. Exactly. That is why.
We are grieving people here. And we do not need you you show up all Kelly Dodd like and claim it is just the flu. I have way too many people here who either had someone die, had someone almost die or are worried that their family member might die. So if you don’t want to be respectful of that, you can get the fuck on with yourself.
Thank you ❤️
Fuck You Lucinda. There are many people here who have had relatives die and one of my favorite people here’s husband was hospitalized for so long and on a ventilator until he finally came out. It was on the fucking news. MANY PEOPLE HERE have lost loved ones. Your flippant comment is insensitive and extremely hurtful. You’re unbelievably insensitive. We all know people who have had COVID and lived. But here, on this site, we all know people who have DIED. Like basically half a million or so people in this country. We also know people who have had mild cases. We also know people who have been on ventilators for months. TAKE A FUCKING SEAT ON THIS TOPIC.
My comment was not flippant, it was just factual. Dr. Fauci says the mortality rate for covid is about 1%. That means 99% will survive, in other words the vast majority as I said. I never said it wasn’t deadly. I never said people, especially high risk populations, shouldn’t take precautions. Why do you assume I don’t know people who’ve had it? I do. My condolences to anyone who’s lost loved ones. That’s very sad.
What I don’t understand is the personal attack for merely expressing a different perspective, one based on the science and coming from the king of the covid experts. Can’t someone express a point of view in a non-emotional, fact based way and have it be accepted as such? Why the hysteria? Did people not bother to read what I wrote and jump to conclusions? There’s nothing factually incorrect in what I’ve said. Is it because I merely dared to deviate from the majority opinion by pointing out the statistics?
I never tell people fuck you, no matter how irritated or angry I am. I try to treat everyone with respect regardless of how I feel. This is your sandbox Tamara. You can say whatever you want, you can cancel whoever you want. If you want an echo chamber you can have an echo chamber. I’ve put up with being attacked here before at times completely without reason (Ash and his plagiarism comes to mind.) I’ve shrugged it off and carried on. But this time is different. My guess is this post probably won’t be allowed to survive. I hope it does because I think I deserve to be heard after being called all the things I’ve been called.
If anyone can tell me how what I said was inaccurate I’d be very interested to hear their thoughts.
No one is saying that what you said was inaccurate. But it is VERY HURTFUL to my readers here who have lost loved ones and had husbands on ventilators for months. It seems a bit odd to me that I know so many people who have died, almost died, and survived.
So it may turn out that your stats are wrong. And I will defend my posters here at all costs. I know way too many who have buried people, come so close that their husband was filmed leaving the hospital because they were not sure he would make it. And your flippant attitude is hurtful. And I am willing to lose you as a commenter if you can’t be more respectful.
PEOPLE ARE DYING AND YOU ARE SAYING THINGS THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
Perhaps you should find a new one if you cannot be respectful.
I don’t know a single sole who has DIED of the flu. And unfortunately I know way too many of my friends here who have died of Covid. It’s totally not just like the flu no matter what Trump tells you.
Why do you keep telling me to be respectful when I’ve not said ANYTHING that is disrespectful to anyone here. I’ve said covid can be deadly. I’ve said people should use proper safety precautions. I’ve said it’s very sad when someone loses a loved one to covid.
Does all that mean I cannot reference what Dr. Fauci has said? You called them my statistics but they’re not mine, they’re Dr. Fauci’s. Attack him if they turn out to be wrong. You brought Trump up, thereby politicizing the discussion but I’m not going there. I only care about that you said you defend your posters but I guess I don’t count. As I said, you can have an echo chamber if that’s what you want: a mutual admiration society with no tolerance for a different perspective on anything. Because that’s the heart of it. I’m not disagreeing with anything anyone has said about covid but because I point out 99% of people who contract it will survive I am attacked, what I’ve said is misrepresented, and told I am not welcome here.
You are being a cunt STOP BEING A CUNT. Or LEAVE.
I’ve been running this site for a least a decade. Never have I EVER had to comfort so many people whose family members have died. AND THEY STILL ARE HERE READING YOUR DISRESPECTFUL NONSENSE. NEVER HAVE THERE HAD TO BE REFRIGERATED TRAILERS to hold all the dead bodies in my lifetime.
Never during the flu have they made us all (well probably not you because you do not care) have we all been told to wear masks.
Never has the whole world shut down over “THE FLU”
If you don’t understand the difference between a global pandemic and the flu then you just need to fuck the fuck off.
I actually read your post, and 3 more times before commenting.
From my own perspective, Dr Fauci – while a brilliant man….has changed his position on this disease several times & adjusted true stats. So, he’s not necessarily my go to, outside of just proper self precautions.
Have this morbid side, and while driving up to my FIL’s gravesite… I counted 8 green tents where funerals were going on.
After a 9 person, masked up 20 minute service outdoors – had to go in to fill out final paperwork. My SIL was handling much & I asked the funeral director (very large funeral home & cemetery) how many funerals are you doing each day. On average 18-23 per day, of that he said 72% was due to covid. He also enlightened me, that in that stat (am a numbers person), they were including suicide.
He went further, because I was inquisitive – he spent 6 weeks in May in NYC, must have caught my Brooklyn accent, never able to shake. Spoke of handling hundreds of bodies to trucks & in that moment I just folded into a chair.
At least my FIL’s body was able to be shipped to Texas & have a proper burial – imagine the families who’s loved ones were locked up in a truck for days/weeks.
You are absolutely entitled, to believe Fauci – stats on TV, know many who do as well….some in my own family. It is nothing like the flu.
Wow, there’s another word I’ve never called anyone.
I understand you and others here have emotions running high because of what covid has meant for you and your loved ones. I have said before and I’ll repeat it I’m very sorry for the losses people have suffered.
Why would you say I don’t care when NOTHING I’ve said indicates that? Have I ever said don’t wear a mask? I said in my original post and others people should take precautions.
You have said so many times how disrespectful I’ve been. Because, as much as the deadliness of covid has been the reality for many here, it is not the experience of most people who contract it. All I was doing was defending another poster who very mildly commented about what the perception of covid was in March of 2020 who was being attacked by pointing out what the facts are. That doesn’t diminish the loss of those who have suffered. It shows how unfair it is because the odds of having that happen are actually very low. So if it happens to you or your loved ones you got dealt a very shitty hand.
I’m done now trying to have a rational and adult discussion in which both sides listen to and understand the other point of view to promote UNITY since all that’s happening is continuing to be personally attacked, vilified, and called names. I hope someone may see this and understand where I’m coming from. We’re not on different sides of this issue. Covid is deadly and people need to be very careful.
Lucinda, I apologize for my outburst. I have had long conversations with people here who are grieving. It is heartbreaking. And your comments felt as if you were belittling that pain. Anything that I perceive (whether that was you intention or not) to say things like “most people don’t die” or to imply this is not a big deal because it’s not a big deal for most people, just pisses me off. There are several people ON THIS SITE who have lost loved ones to this “flu” and this site is basically just a random sample. People are burying their loved ones. People have had their loved ones on ventilators and by the grace of God survived. I’ve listened to their pain. And I don’t want them to come here and read that basically “for most people it is not a big deal” kind of stuff when they are in the middle of a very serious grieving process.
It makes me cringe to read TT call Lucinda awful names. TT, she doesn’t deserve that. We are all walking this journey of navigating corona. Everyone has their opinion on it. My mom always said opinions are like assholes, everyone has on. At at this time, everyone should know someone who has had it and a people who have died from it. TT, you have a platform to lift people up and educate them, not tear them down and embarrass them.
Sorry, this is a completely different post
out of respect regarding Captain Lee. It was heartbreaking to see and hear what he and his family just went through. Damn it man,… I’m crying again and crying solves NOTHING.
Tried and true.
It is OK to cry! It releases some stress, momentarily at least. Plus, being human and all.
I feel like garbage person for even watching this episode regarding Captain Lee. I thought he was a little showy before but I really enjoy him now & I hated the exploiting of his son’s death. Those guest were so arrogant & the sons will be useless humans as expected. If you don’t learn to work for a living you are in serious trouble but after 15 kids dads probably over the discipline thing. My youngest sister got away with murder bz she was the last one. The ONLY thing I was bothered about was that Elizabeth was taken to task & James wasn’t but I was glad he got reemed( sp) by the Captain. Eddie was laisse fair about the cabin thing bz he’s a boy & sex happens. I think Eddie is chill & cute bz he gives me a Michael J Fox vibe who I had a total crush on back in the day. I thought Rob was nerdy hot til he got sexist. Elizabeth is an inconsiderate air head & its suck bz I’ve had those co workers but I’m not sure I would cry about it.
I am a tax preparer and in our office we refer to men like David Siegel as Seman Slingers. Anyhow, this is my covid story (and it kinda takes the scenic route so I apologize in advance). On July 4th a close friend lost her 19yr old and only child in a traffic accident when a intoxicated driver hit his car. In the first week of January the same friend lost her father to a long non-covid illness. Because of covid none of the funeral homes had the time, space, personnel, etc. to have his service until last Tuesday. So while my friend was attending the service for her father, the driver who killed her son was in court being charged (and promptly released) for the accident.
I hope this makes sense & follows posting guidelines (I read them but I have insomnia fog).
I don’t understand why everyone but Ash rallies around Elizabeth. She flashes those doe eyes, that crooked mouth that is silently saying “huh” & gets in her feelings and everyone says. “Awww” and pats her on the head. Chess & Ash have to work with her, they know she doesn’t pull her weight so THEIR opinion is the ONLY one that matters. If you feel sorry for anyone, feel sorry for the two doing ALL THE WORK. Chess not seem to be naturally bent toward bitchery (like our beloved Kate) so if she is, there must be good reason.
The 2 DICKhands are showing that nothing has changed. Rob is such a jerk and we all knew James is an asshole so I hope they are called on their shit with Izzy. And I think that had everyone not told James – who, I repeat, is an asshole – that he HAD to do something for Liz’s birthday, he might have done so.
These guests – who are scam artists – are awful. The 2 sons are HORRIBLE ENTITLED BRATS & mom & dad are just crude & classless. The “Queen” is quite full of herself, ain’t she? And good thing Ash was on late duty. She used her head & cut them off when she really just wanted to push them overboard.
As for Capt. Lee, that’s a hurt that never goes away. You’d have to be made of stone not to be moved by his tears.
One more thing – PLEASE FIRE ELIZABETH NEXT WEEK!
I cried…I mean sobbed. My heart broke for Captain Lee and his family. I still see the pain of the loss in his eyes.
For the record, I’m not on Elizabeth’s nor Chess’ side. My observation is that Chess has a raging hard on for Elizabeth. With reason, she doesn’t want to work with her, she’s been ACTIVELY looking for evidence to get her sacked.
On the occasion that Elizabeth tried to show initiative and be proactive, Chess found fault with her for not checking in with her before she started to work.
NOTHING Elizabeth does will ever be up to par for Chess.
I wouldn’t mention this if Chess were perfect, but she herself has issues communicating with Rachel. Elizabeth’s BS happens behind the scenes, while Chess’s breakdowns with Rachel effect the guests in real time.
Just sayin….
I was living in south Florida when captain Lee’s son died, it was on the news there. At the time I was living with my relapsed husband who had gotten clean ftom alcohol before we married, was clean for 5 years, and then got a Rx for oxycodone and it was downhill from there. I said you know you can’t take that right? But he did anyway. He OD’d the day that hurricane Irma was hammering us. I had to get him to the ER by myself, at night, in the worst of the hurricane. Despite dying and being brought back, spending 10 days in a coma in an ICU getting his lungs suctioned constantly, he was using again within two days of discharge. If that experience didn’t stop his addiction, and my telling him I was done if he didn’t stop, if none of that was powerful enough to make him quit I knew it was hopeless. (And he had plenty of resources to go to for recovery, people who had helped him before.) He just didn’t want help or to stop. Sometimes you just can’t help people, no matter how hard you try.
So what happened next? Did he end up passing away?
No. I divorced him and his family continues to enable him. He has ruined himself financially and continues to use.
I am truly sorry for Captain Lee.
I was shocked to find out Elizabeth is 30. I thought she was like 23.
I think even less of her than I did before.
I guess I don’t really understand why James didn’t want to have sex with her….You KNOW she wanted it.
And I have never ever seen a bread cake before!
I can see exactly how the mahi mahi orders went wrong. I think it was both of their faults.
Francesca shouldn’t have written it that way, and Rachel should have read it better…
I was shocked the Queen didn’t complain.
She has to have the hardest looking fake boobs I have ever seen in my life.
Well….bummer for me….We had a huge storm last night and I came into work and nobody is here…
Should have stayed home!
I agree I hated when the primary said I wonder what the poor people are doing? We are doing exactly what you’re doing, eating, drinking and enjoying family and friends just on a lesser scale. I love Captain Lee and I’m so sorry for him, he said it right when he said parents are not wired to bury their children. My GOD I would not survive it. I can’t believe Elizabeth, we were sitting on the bed…really? No, you and James were doing it on the bed and does anyone remember that was not the first time, she just got caught the second time.. I was hoping she would get fired last night but that did not happen. I can’t stand her whiny voice. Do you think she’s a plant? I don’t know, Andy Cohen making it a big deal by saying who is team Elizabeth and who is team Francesca makes me think Elizabeth was planted to annoy Francesca and create drama. No one can be that brainless. She takes ZERO accountability for anything she does. Elizabeth leave already!!
Elizabeth said she had FIVE YEARS experience! At what? Tying her shoes?
And yes, the order mix up was both C & R’s fault. But I’m hard pressed to be on R’s side considering she walked off & put the whole ship in turmoil. Short memory that one. Maybe it’s all the alcohol??
I too am baffled at Elizabeth and how people take her side and hate Francesca. I am seeing one boss and two workers. The boss expects the same out of each worker. One of the workers (Elizabeth) simply sucks and the other one (Ash) seems to take direction and be just fine. This tells me that Francesca isn’t the problem, otherwise she would have TWO sucky workers. Another thing that makes me laugh is how Izzy now has two people who aren’t taking direction (James and Rob) and they are being assy to her…meantime she sticks up for Elizabeth…who doesn’t take direction and is assy to Francesca. Karma? Maybe now she’ll understand that when you’re the boss, you really do expect people who work under you to do a good job, all the time, while following directions.
It was hard to watch last night. I am glad that Captain Lee had someone to talk to last night who could really understand his grief. I lost a cousin to addiction years ago and my aunt & uncle were never the same after he died. The Siegel’s need to pick up on the message their sons are sending because there’s clearly something wrong with those entitled brats.
As for Elizabeth, she’s there for the camera time and nothing more. Working with people like her makes your job twice as difficult and it doesn’t take long for resentment to build up.
Rachel is an amazing chef, but she does have a screw or two loose. She seems to have had issues with Francesca from the beginning. The food order wasn’t written as clearly as it could have been, but Rachel could have asked for clarification before prepping the food.
James & Rob are just idiots. James resents that he didn’t get the promotion & Rob is trying to impress James by being rude to Izzy.
I hated this couple when they were on Flipping Out and BD Med – please lord not again. The were cheap with Jeff and left a lousy tip for Capt. Sandy’s crew. As far as the mahi mahi goes it’s a cheap cut of fish that sears in 2 minutes. What’s the BFD?
I think Rachel’s issues with Chess is nothing more that Kate not liking her and wanting to give her a hard time. There is a reason they never cast Rachel and Kate on the same season.
First Time Poster: Did you guys see that Francesca tried to read the ticket to Rachel but Rachel cut her off and said she was trying to concentrate? Perhaps if Francesa had finished reading the ticket, Rachel would have gotten the order correct.
I did not see this but wish I had! I hate when Francesca does something that makes her look bad, knowing how much effort she puts in to the contrary.
These last two episodes have been very difficult for me to watch. My heart breaks for Capt. Lee and his bride. And I hurt for my parents who almost were members of that club no one wants to be in — several times. They had no idea how many times I overdosed.
If anyone reading this ever has to deal with someone overdosing — DO NOT DEPEND ON NARCAN TO SAVE THEIR LIFE! Go ahead and use it, but begin CPR ASAP. Back in my day, we did not have Narcan. It was all mechanics to save a life. And it most often works. Because it is respiratory failure that kills opioid users. If you can get them breathing — THROUGH ANY MEANS NECESSARY — you have a great chance of saving their life. Monitor until they are way out of danger of stopping breathing AGAIN. It may take a while.
I don’t know that we love Elizabeth, as much as Franchesa has ZERO personality. She takes her job way too seriously. Also… with the other girl “crying” … not one tear actually fell from either of her eyes. Franschesa sucks and so does that other one who fake-cries and pretends to be your BF while stabbing you in the back.
Yes, taking her job seriously is a huge character flaw. Muchlike expecting Elizabeth to do her job rather than focusing on James. How dare she!
I thought the Rachel-Francesca misunderstanding was more on Rachel – they showed Francesca trying to tell her what the orders were, and Rachel interrupted with a snarky comment about how she couldn’t remember it as she was trying to do something else. Then, Francesca provided a list of the orders (after trying to tell her verbally and being snubbed) and Rachel didn’t read it carefully, but still blames her.
It looks like Rachel just doesn’t like her so doesn’t pay attention to what she says, and then blames her for mixups.
And wasn’t there a movie less than 10 years ago about how the Siegels had lost all their money? How did they get it back?
Good catch!
I am angry that Mr Seigal feels he’s so much better than us poor people. And from what I read he received PPP for his timeshare business to hire temporary employees to promote it. A billionaire receiving PPP when mom and pop and small companies are losing their homes and businesses infuriating!!!!
Captain Lee just broke my heart. I pray for him and Marianne to find a way to live with this heartbreaking reality. If you ask me, this opioid crisis is a pandemic, many countries are suffering the same devastating heartbreak. I can’t even begin to imagine this kind of pain. It was horrible to watch, but I think it is necessary for people to see the effects it has on those left behind. Perhaps if enough people are moved we can find a way to bring some closure to this horrible madness.