It seems according to the RHOA recaps interactions, and the ratings that RHOA has sort of run its course. Are we really over this franchise? Or is it Bravo in general. At one point this season RHOC was beating RHOA in ratings. And this was a very low rated RHOC season. I’ll ask again, where do we go from here? What do we actually enjoy watching? Share you thoughts in comments please.
Kenya sets up a murder mystery party for the ladies. I don’t think this is a really great idea for this group for many reasons. Mostly because most of them are less than smart. The ladies from the Sprinter finally arrive on the island. Porsha says the trip was supposed to take four hours. That is a lie. It’s a good five hours to Charleston and then with traffic getting to IOP that could be another half an hour or more. So her claim that it took eight hours is questionable. Cynthia go there a bit early than the rest and was super please with her room assignment. For some reason they are all coming up with alter egos for their name tags. It’s ridiculous.
Dead Wrong
Let the drinking begin. And the murder mystery. It’s very um… stupid. Half the ladies jumped behind furniture when the keystone cops came in. This is not a murder mystery game type of crowd. They just want to drink and twerk. Only Tanya, Kandi and Kenya are the only ones remotely interested in winning the game. The prize is a chance at a nicer room. Tanya really wants to win and get the room. But Kenya just blurts out the answer. But she gives Tanya the win for trying.
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Apparently, Drew’s husband is there and she is going to stay with him. Latoya goes up to Drew aggressively and says, “Let’s talk about your struggling husband.” She grabbed her by the arm. Latoya is ratchet. There is no other word for it. Her abrasiveness is ridiculous. She doesn’t even know Drew but she is apparently pissed that she got the peach Latoya wanted. Everyone saw it and Marlo of all people had to give Drew a lecture about putting her hands on people. We are almost half way through this episode and not a thing has happened. Kenya makes Latoya apologize. I’m bored. I don’t care about Marlo whining about her room and Kenya being shady about it. GO TO BED.
People Start Getting Really Crabby
The next morning Kenya is up early making breakfast for Brooklyn. I hate that Marc makes production blur her cute little face out. She’s adorable. Drew calls Ralph to tell him about Latoya’s violent tendencies. Porsha wanders out to find a guy cooking a whole hog for the ladies. She’s “vegan” but it would not surprise me at all if she chomps down on that pork later either on camera or off. Kenya asks her nanny to call Marc so he can talk to Brooklyn. Marlo talks to Kandi about her issues with Kenya. She sort of wants to squash that situation. Dennis sends Porsha texts saying he wants to get back to her.
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Marlo is unhappy with the food situation. She wants crab legs and seafood platters in the kitchen and there is nothing fun to eat. Kenya orders herself a banana split and a crab cake. She proceeds to eat it in front of everyone else. Everyone is pissed. She eventually shares a few fries and a bite of her crab cake. Meanwhile, Latoya has bought a wig for Drew. Because, bitch. Dinner is the whole roasted pig with greens and mac and cheese and I feel like clawing through the TV to get a that.
Latoya decides to give Drew the wig in the middle of dinner. It was not well received. Then Drew goes to get something she has for Drew. Ut oh. As it turns out, Latoya initially told Drew she didn’t like her because of the character she played on The Game. So Drew says that since Latoya is so obsessed with her, she is going to treat her just like her other fans and autograph a photo for her. LOL. You go Drew. Since this seemed to end the war with Drew and Latoya, at least for now, Marlo tries to make amends with Kenya. She was “hurt to her core” about the bedroom Kenya chose for her. Really? Kenya says that Marlo trashes her every chance she gets. Then Marlo starts talking about Kenya’s butt injections. As if these two could ever make up.
There will not be an episode next week due to the Superbowl. Then we finally get to stripper gate.
Bravo and women fighting is getting played out! We want real friendships and people with wealth. Cynthia should not be apart of the cast. Porsha doesn’t need 20 friends that’s making it boring! Porsha is fun but not enough to carry the show! Drew is ok but she’s not the wealthy I want to see!!! Shamea needs a peach and more Fallon.
Kenya needs to go get therapy for her mama and husband issues and kind of let the other girls get along and support each other she the is the only one thats not genuinely supportive, can you guess I don’t like Kenya….
I think it was Falynn who brought the hubby. This episode was stupid.
Bravo could drop this one & RHOC as far as I’m concerned.
I still love Capt Lee., but Sandy needs to be replaced on BD Med. I still watch RHONY & RHOBH, and I like Married to Medicine.
I loved how Kandi rode hard for Kenya at the start of the episode by explaining that Kenya is bringing Brooklyn due to lack of responsible options for childcare despite having wealth. Kandi is a great friend.
Oh and has Porsha given up being vegan since the season ended? On an episode of Chat Room a few weeks ago, she had her assistant bring out this big ass ham and was chowing down on camera.
For me, I’m tired of the women being mean to each other. I’m tired of the petty actions and wanting to purposely hurt each other. With Covid and the racial tension going on right now, it would be lovely if they could unite, get along, and treat each other with kindness.
The problem with RHOA is that Bravo dragged its heels when it came to renewing the cast.
Bravo should have been gradually switching out cast members over the years so as to give new cast members time to develop organic storylines. Now there is too much pressure to produce instant storylines, which is why Latoya has been so thirsty.
Bravo needs to get rid of Cynthia and Latoya as they add nothing to the show.
Marc and Brooklyn don’t film, so Kenya needs to be fired or demoted (like Quad on Married to Medicine).
Keep Porsha and the younger cast members (Drew, Falynn, Shamea). Add two new cast members to replace Cynthia and Kenya, and we’ll be good to go.
FULL Disclosure** This is one of the few episodes I’ve watched since Phaedra was “LET GO.” I just thought it was bs that a network would fire an important cast member but still profit off her actions by airing it. That goes to show how they’ll use you for the sake of revenue then throw you away when you become inconvenient. Talk about hypocrisy.
However, I do feel this is still very much a viable franchise but the producers of the show are so far out of touch with the cast, the fanbase and our expectations for watching the show. I will say this “I’M TIRED OF WATCHING THESE WOMEN B**** ABOUT NOTHING” and its embarrassing that Bravo thinks this is what we (BW or otherwise) want to see. Also, Bravo is hellbent on attracting a younger demographic BUT the OG’s are/were entertaining enough. This group of women have nothing of interest to offer. There’s 2 cliques, there’s NO dynamic, and they really don’t belong on a show together. Kandi, Kenya, Phaedra, Lisa, Drew, Marlo, Porsha and Sherree, I would want to see every week. These ladies.. I’m good
Another thing Bravo doesn’t do is invest in its talent. The success of She by Sherree (god rest its soul) would have benefited everybody. The success of Kenya’s production company, would have benefited the show. Kenya preparing for another shot in the acting world, would have benefited the show. Porsha working on a masters in African-American history, would benefit the show. Lets not even talk about Phaedra and Apollo situation or Marlo shining a light on the underworld of sex work in Atlanta. Why didn’t Nene ever teach us strip club etiquette?
There are stories here to be told, instead they wanna argue over wigs and room assignments and wonder why the ratings are in the tank. Not sure who does it now but they need an African American production company or at least one who understand the cast and demographic
@Nosey LaPierre, such great points!
Thank you…
BUT after giving it some thought, I’m with you TT just cancel the show. This ship could be righted but I don’t think Bravo has the capacity to handle it. When the show started this was the realest representation of black women on TV. The only other shows were The Game and Girlfriends reruns. We’re now in a media landscape that’s post Shonda Rhimes, post OWN Network, post Social Justice and the world we live in has changed. Look at Watchmen, Lovecraft Country, Scandal. Black women are seen as hero’s now and RHOA at this point out of touch with reality. We wanna see women winning, with a slight bit of shade for comic relief, not this.
And I like her but they can cancel Kandi. Her and Bravo have milked each other for all they have to offer. There’s other representation of Atlanta’s music scene they can find. I would rather see Vivian Green, Amerie (or her sister), MALI HUNTER, Joi, Nicole Gardner, or Keyshia Ka’oir
Great points?????
Totally agree!
Yes, yes, yes, Nosey! I may comment in more detail later when I wake up, but all of what you said. In general, so sick of seeing production’s hand in all of these shows and the same old same old scripts (always the party, always the trip, always the stupid fighting). It also seems that less and less of their real lives as individuals and families are being shown. It’s just the women, bitching and bitching and bitching with less and less authentic connection with each other.
I’d personally take less wealth and glamour for more true, real friendship circles, and in-depth glimpses into family and relationships with children. This just hit me- what would be cool (if these people exist) would be shows about circles of women friends who really live in the big cities (raise their children there, etc.). Not where the title leads you to think these people live in the cool city you want to see scenes of but the women all really live in the burbs. I find McMansions boring. Much of why I used to watch was for the cool, authentic, CITY scenes and people living that cool, urban life. Like RHONY still is (although they could cut out all the redundant trips from that- let us see New York!).
YES!!! If someone could make it entertaining I would be totally here for it and I think it needs to be seen. Work/Life balance. I’m thinking Austin or Nashville but yes there are so many different worlds behind the brick and morter that make up in NYC that deserve some shine. I once spent a day in Red Hook (with a celeb) and saw stuff I had no clue existed
Great points…. they only want to show the silly cat fights….I want to see their real actual lives.
Nosey Lapierre well put ??, thank you.
I agree completely
It’s too many women to keep up with, let’s just start with that. The production team this season definitely didn’t know what in the world they were doing. The cast should’ve been Kandi, Porsha, Kenya, Drew, Cynthia, Latoya and had Marlo, Shamea and Falynn as official friends. This has to be Cynthia’s last season, I’m sure of it. Kandi and Kenya are definitely questionable at this point and aren’t bringing anything interesting to the table as far as storylines at this point. It’s season 13 and nothing has progressed because we’ve seen everything this format of women can bring with the exception of Drew and Falynn.
Let me start by saying that food is very important to me, so if I was invited on a trip by someone and she ordered crab cakes, fries & a banana split for just herself, I would have grabbed the food & tossed it in the garbage. If the food in the refrigerator was good enough for the other women, it was good enough for Kenya. I loved how Drew handled the wig situation. That actually made me laugh. Back to food, that bbq spread made me drool. I still enjoy Cynthia, Kandi & Porsha, but the rest of them could be let go & I wouldn’t really miss them.
Everyone keeps saying keep Lorena and bring in a younger crowd, so we can watch a bunch of women twerking. No Thanks. The Housewives franchise needs to bring in some more middle age women with husbands and who are doing things.
Who is Lorena?
She means Porsha. Apple doesn’t recognize it as a word )
This was funny!!! But Cher is right, the network is trying to attract a group that consumes YouTube and Instagram. Most of them don’t even have a cable subscription
I was watching the Porsha baby special yesterday afternoon and I have such a hard time watching her imitate NeNe.
All those goofy things that were Nene, and not great, but her.
It is not genuine watching her after she started doing that. She’s Nene 2.0 and I rather if she had developed her own quirks.
(I can’t stand Nene but had to put in this context to comment, lol)
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CherT, I agree with you!
Like Belle Collective on OWN, and well as LMMH. These two show are really good. They Have Real Husband and Families ?
Way Better Than RHOA.
Drew is the worst! I can’t get past that horrible, camera hog husband. I can’t believe that Kenya didn’t ask the other ladies if they wanted to order lunch. She should know better than to mess with Kandi when it came to food…Kandi’s true number one love.
YES!!! If someone could make it entertaining I would be totally here for it and I think it needs to be seen. Work/Life balance. I’m thinking Austin or Nashville but yes there are so many different worlds behind the brick and mortar that make up in NYC that deserve some shine. I once spent a day in Red Hook (with a celeb) and saw stuff I had no clue existed and thats just 1 neighborhood in one bourough
YES!!! If someone could make it entertaining I would be totally here for it and I think it needs to be seen. Work/Life balance. I’m thinking Austin or Nashville but yes there are so many different worlds behind the brick and mortar that make up in NYC that deserve some shine. I once spent a day in Red Hook (with a celeb) and saw stuff I had no clue existed and thats just 1 neighborhood in one borough
Kenya was not a good hostess. Although I agree with her on giving Marlo the unattractive room due to hurtful insults, she was so wrong in running out fir food and not either inviting the others, or checking to see if they wanted something. Then, to make matters worse she sat in front of them eating the delicious food while hearing how hungry they were. This episode was not what I know a girls trip to be. In my opinion I think this franchise has run its course. Unless Bravo can come up with some interesting women who don’t have to walk around all day everyday and everywhere with their boobs exposed, and twerking, then RHOA can be put out to pasture.
I stopped watching RHOA this time around after watching every single episode of every season. I didn’t know it was back on and then had a revelation. I didn’t miss it. Main reason, the ugliness that is Kenya Moore. Yes, I know, hurt people hurt other people but no thanks. Bye gurl.
Agreed. That would be perfect
After thinking about this show..I must say not interested anymore. Too much rudeness, bitching with each other doesn’t make black women proud. If it gets cancelled wouldn’t bother me a bit. Thanks much.
I am kind of over RHOA mainly because the friendships does not seem genuine anymore and that make for less interesting storylines. But looking forward to new episodes of married to medicine and wish they would make new seasons of Family Karma and Mexican Dynasties!
Family Karma is coming soon! They had to shut down a couple of times for positive Covid tests. But it should be here by spring! Summer…September… lol.
I love Family Karma, but Mexican Dynasty was all time favorite. I love the musical family!
Sadly, there won’t be any more Mexican Dynasty. 🙁 Because Bravo never let’s us have fun things. I’m surprised we got Family Karma.
I’m over Bravo in general. After the fight on Potomac….I was turned off I don’t want to see fights and screaming matches….I don’t want to see these ladies carrying bones back and forth. I’m tired of the same stale drama and shade. Bravo is trying to get a younger audience by bringing Drew and Latoya. I had no idea who either of them are. Drew is trying to hard to be perfect and Latoya is just trying too hard. The others…… I’m just completely bored with. I wanna see these ladie’s real lives how they interact with their family and friends…not fake ass made .for TV drama.
Yet Bravo is going to drive this right into the ground. Clearly they have no new plans for production.
Exactly….they seem to like this model.
Right. I used to love Bravo, and I still watch much of the time because it’s like a stale addiction. And, I obviously know nothing about what goes into Bravo’s decision making process, but they seem to be completely blind to the connection between the dropping viewership and the choices that are being made by this production team to present the same overly scripted themes, over and over again.
Their choice to keep this production group is almost, I don’t know, kind of “suspect”. Like, is there a Bravo exec who is related to someone on this production team, or is there a member of production who has some dirt on someone high up at Bravo? I know, I know, probably not, but I just internally shake my head sometimes to see the deterioration of these shows and the increasing lack of authentic connectedness between the women, yet Bravo stays with the same production team and the same old formula.
I also wonder how Bravo does it’s market research- like- I wonder if they ever do focus groups to see what’s working and what’s not, or do they just rely on social media? Or, do they just kind of take stabs in the dark and listen to production to see if a cast member or a theme is going to work (which is what it’s feeling like). They just seem so disconnected to the times. And when they try to portray something more connected to these times, they botch it horribly (like casting Leva to explain all the things to all the people, and Wendy to portray an “educated” woman).
For shows like RHOA and RHOP that focus on the lives of Black women, there could be such a great opportunity to showcase so many beautiful, brilliant, amazing Black women who are “rising like phoenixes”, contributing and kicking ass in this world, despite having to deal with racism and fight a thousand times harder for everything they have. Of course, there can still be arguments and fighting and glam (because that’s real life too, for those with more wealth), but show things in a more authentic, complex way.
I’m really beginning to feel in my bones like it’s some form of conscious or subconscious racism at play on the parts of Bravo and production, when most of what is highlighted on RHOA and RHOP is trashy stuff (twerking, flashing boobs, screaming and screeching, physical fighting, etc.). Although, even as I type this, I realize that they also push this side of things in all the HW shows, regardless of the races of the cast members. So, maybe it’s the “formula” that’s just grown old and stale (or is now being overdone). Just think they need fresh thinking, new blood, and a big overhaul. But the first step- connect with the damn viewers- we have GREAT ideas! But alas, they seem stuck in their isolated silo…
True and i agree. But as Tamara and others have said, Bravo will run Real Housewives into the ground. 🙁
The music playing over shots of the pig while Porsha was saying grace had me DYING!
I loved how Drew handled LaToya with the signing of the picture! Good for her! LaToya is just rotten to the core. She is hell bent on fighting someone. I miss the good old days of RHOA. I think this ship has sailed…
Great morning Tamara. I know you get frustrated often. I know a lot of times you feel that we don’t care about RHOA anymore or your posts. I want you to know that I visit your site several times a day looking for posts and TEA on RHOA. I’ve done so for years. I don’t comment, but I read your posts. Don’t give up. A lot of times I don’t even watch the episode, I just read your posts. I even read your MAFS posts because I don’t watch it a lot either. I’m a busy momma, so tv doesn’t excite me when I’m home amongst the family. Take care of yourself and do what you love. 🙂
I think RHOA has run its course. Any depth to these ladies disappeared long ago. They are all caricatures of who they started out as on the show. The new ladies are just one dimensional characters. I hate that ratings dropped the season NeNe is not on the show. It makes it look like the show doesn’t work without her which is not true. The story is tired and there’s no more mileage to be had here. There was a time I’d have to watch RHOA twice to soak it all in. Now I barely watch it out the corner of my eye.
Maybe all the housewife shows have worn on me. RHONY I barely watched last season and that used to be my favorite housewives show. I tried with RHOSL. I tried hard and just can’t. I probably wont watch RHOP next season. The way the gaslighted Monique at the reunion was inexcusable. I don’t watch OC and I may not watch Married to Medicine bc they are gaslighting Mariah behind the scenes and she’s suing them.
I stumbled on to a reality show called House of Ho on HBO max. It’s about a wealthy Vietnamese family living in Houston. It’s only 6 episodes but it was a good palate cleanser.
TT, I’m a loyal and longtime viewer of your site. I’ll still read your recaps and I love reading the comments. You got me hooked on MAFS. I was reading your recaps long before I watched the show.
I have been watching the episodes from 3-9, and it’s just noise.
I think it has run its course.
They are not classy, funny, interesting or necessary.
I am trying to say more positive things posting, so I will bounce over to the first RHONJ post. 🙂