It’s time for another RHONY Recap. I really hope Tinsley is still there tonight. She’s pretty much the only thing that makes this reunion bearable. I’m already emotionally drained from tonight’s Big Brother Episode. Please only post about Big Brother in the Big Brother comments to avoid spoiling it for others. But okay let’s watch old ladies yell at each other while wearing uncomfortable clothing.
I am SOFA KING glad that Dorinda got fired. Her seething jealousy of Tinsley is abundantly clear. Then she tells Tinsley that she doesn’t want a co-dependent relationship with someone supporting her? Isn’t that what she has been grieving over for over a decade? Bitching because Tinsley didn’t mention her status with Scott on a daily or hourly basis to her; MEANWHILE, she had broken up with John or vice versa. Ramona asks Dorinda if she has a tracker on Tinsley. She sure did have a lot of time to keep track of every move she made while going through “terrible times.” Please let this conversation end with the replay of Dorinda’s drunken finale meltdown over the mere mention of Tinsley’s name.
I’m Bored
Ramona has also had enough. She storms off and of course forgets her mask. Because Ramona never wears a mask. Once she gets back we move on to the trips. Or maybe just vibrators and making out with your sister and sleeping in the basement. Andy comes after Ramona for calling the hotel staff servants. Then. Andy dismisses Tinsley and I’d like to turn the channel. But I shall solider on.
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Next we move on to Luann. I remember when I used to love Luann. Now I can take her or leave her. I feel like is it cabaret all the time. “A viewer” did call out Luann for acting like she did ten years in Sing Sing and was going there to tell all the real felons how she got by. Luann breaks down while talking about her father. Or does she? She’s so dramatic that everything she does seems a bit inauthentic so it’s hard to tell. Either way, we rapidly move on to Luann’s sexual desires for pretty much anyone from dog groomer to the tennis coach. Then we move on to how many men these women pass around like footballs. Dorinda seems to already have a new man.
Are We Going To Talk About Ramona, AGAIN?
We talk about the weird “mother daughter” relationship between Leah and Ramona that lasted for two seconds. Then Ramona talked about Leah’s mental health on camera. Ramona’s voice is hoarse from all the screaming and it’s making my throat hurt. Yet the screaming continues with Leah coming after Ramona for talking about her bipolar and hospitalizations on camera. He daughter had no idea about any of that and Leah had to sit down with her daughter and talk about it before she was ready. Ramona eventually fake apologizes to Leah after Andy basically makes her. I think Ramona might end up being pushed out just like Dorinda. Maybe not this season but I feel like she is next to go.
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It looks like we are going to end this shit show with a montage of Ramona going below the belt with everyone. This does not bode well for her future on the show. Dorinda says that Ramona tries to say that her face creams make her face look like it does when it is really a face lift and tells her to “Just Be Honest!” Ramona scream at Dorinda, “You like to drink a lot, JUST BE HONEST!” Dorinda shots back “You get laid by random men every night of the week! JUST BE HONEST! Sonja says, “That’s true!”
Then Andy finally puts a stop to it and Leah and Ramona how they can possibly move on from this season. Ramona gives some sort of Trumpian rambling statement with very little truth in it. Leah says that Ramona gave her motherly love and then took it away from her and that is a trigger for her. Ramona stands up to give her a hug and the health guys off camera start to lose their minds. Ramona has no idea how to social distance at all.
Next Week: Ramona and Dorinda get nasty with each other again. And Sonja just wants to get laid.
TT… oh dear God, make them stop! Thx for recapping these “women?”
I wasn’t sure what I thought about Leah this season, but I loved her at the reunion. She was so poised and calm and articulate in the face of a lot of yelling and drama. She may be the youngest, but she was the most mature. (Tinsley was too.) That was interesting how Leah said Ramona was like a mother-figure and having that taken away was a trigger. Having Leah there showed how snotty Dorinda is.
Yes!
I gotta say, I was SO proud of Tinsley!! I’m a bit like Tinsley, I’m not good at “being assertive” I tend not to say anything when I’m hurt or I minimize it then by the time I do say something, I’m VERY angry so people like Dorinda go, “see! You’re overly dramatic yada yada”. She stuck to the facts with Dorinda, she also finally figured out what set Dorinda off with Scott giving John money (he filed bankruptcy in January so it was probably much needed) It was very uncomfortable to watch Dorinda go at Tinsley this season. Tinsley isn’t a mental giant but she never claimed to be, she’s a woman who wants to be married to someone she loves AND who can give her a nice lifestyle. She’s a product of her environment Frankly, I wouldn’t mind that myself!
Fwiw, Tinsley REALLY needs a new hairstyle. She’s clinging to a look that looked dated in 2007. A shoulder length chic bob, she has the jaw for it.
So agree with Tinsley’s need for a new style. I’d like to see her dressed in more of a Jennifer Aniston casual style, less prissy shoes, and with a chic long bob and NO false eyelashes.
Holy cow. God bless you for doing these recaps. It IS a shit show.
I agree, Ramona is next. It’s almost like a talent-how unaware she is of herself. I’m not disparaging ANYONE, but maybe she’s a bit autistic. She really misses so many social cues. After all these years I actually think she may be. I say this because I’ve a background in psychology, specifically how illness affects adolescents. I’ve done research that included students with Aspergers and they showed more self awareness than she does. But I think she may be on the spectrum which explains why she behaves as she does and is so unaware. Btw; NOT A SLAM. Just my thoughts as to her behavior. Not looking to trigger anyone. My apologies if I have.
But regardless, I do think she’s next to go.
Dorinda needs help (don’t we all), but boy it’s sad how angry she is towards Tinsley. Holy cow.
Stay safe Tamara.
As an aside, you can miss social cues for lots of reason. It doesn’t necessarily equate to being on the spectrum. Lots of people with ADHD miss social cues. She might have something going on which causes her to miss stuff but she could also just be self centered and dismissive.
I have a 14 year old son on the spectrum- very high functioning, and we have had a lot of conversations about this. Our theory is that childhood PTSD can mimic several attributes of ASD. Given the things Ramona has revealed about her childhood that would be my guess as to the main culprit for a lot of her behavior.
Bethenny is full of sh*t.
That’s a random comment. Between her HUGE contract with… I forget… HBOMAX I think… and her tireless relief work helping disaster victims, I don’t think your opinion of her really matters to her.
Why does Ramonas hair appear as a yellow flat blob she’s got enough money for this to not happen
I have always said that about Ramona, having worked with children on the spectrum for years. She does not have the social awareness, she is blunt and abrupt and does not understand why that is offensive. She often doesnt know how to act or behave in public.
I do feel like she is pretty much her true self on the show, since she has been consistently…. different since day 1.
I am over Dorinda too, but I did love how she called out Ramona’s youth to having a facelift, not the skincare line. Ramona just smiled awkwardly.
Lucky’s Mom, this explains a lot to me in a personal sense that years of therapy did not. Thanks. The check is in the mail. 🙂
Just FYI TT, I asked my therapist last year if perhaps I was slightly on the Autism spectrum because I feel so socially awkward & I’m a bit of an odd nut. He said the fact that you are self-reflective & worrying about whether you are on the spectrum, pretty much means you are not.
I might want you to mention I rock like Ian on Big Brother, have problems with interacting with others, excel at book smarts but struggle with interpersonal relationships, ended up all alone in my old age… Can you cover all those topics? Because I struggle to find a shrink that gets it. So I’ll pay for your therapy if you can figure that all out for me. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the warning about what to expect. I was worried there wouldn’t be any yelling tonight. ? God, I cannot stand Ramona. The first time I saw Ramona was when she threw a glass wineglass at Kristen. Hated her then and ever since. Take your poop and go home. Please.
I was traumatized by her crazy eyed runway walk a decade ago! Has it been longer? Prob. But yes. She should take her random disturbing poops and go away.
omg I think I said something about that recently, I thought that by far it was the worst thing she has ever done. No one ever mentions it, never replayed, nothing. How she defended herself, making Kristen bleed, because her hair got wet, and doubled down on it.
Dorinda is a menacing person – she has no place on tv or with sane people, no matter how much Bethenny is trying to promote her as her new best friend on instagram.
Yeah, that’s so odd. When Bethenny left the show, it was dorinda that was vocal about Bethenny unfollowing all of them on Instagram and that she doesn’t know what a friend is. I’m just glad she’s off the show. She is vile and it seeps out of her. And yes she’s got a new man, probably someone to pay for stuff. I watched a repeat from season 8 and Dorinda mentions that it took her 4 months to start dating after Richard died. Like that’s impressive or something. These women can’t cope without men. Anyway I think Ramona will be next to go but I kinda wish it was Sonja. Her behaviour this season wasn’t even funny, it was disturbing. How can one be drunk, all the time
I think (hope) Sonja has realized things about herself and has taken steps to improve herself between the main filming and the reunion She has lost weight (even made a comment about it at the reunion), had some face work done (which looks great), and I hope she has also resolved to drink less. I don’t like drunk Sonja, but she has a sweetness and vulnerability about her, she is genuine, and she is funny. I hope she curbs her drinking and stays on the show.
Bethenny is full of sh*t.
Are you a parrot?
T’Challa does post here. I know for a fact.
I think she’s an alcoholic, she’s so bitter and resentful, she holds onto grudges and ruminates over the same few things over & over then works herself up into a self righteous rage & she projects it onto Tinsley or somone else. I was an alcoholic in my youth, I haven’t drank for 28 yrs -anyway but I really think she’s got a serious problem. I have no clue about Ramona or Sonja but my gut and decades of AA tell me Dorinda is one of my tribe. ( she’s also intelligent, charismatic and funny when she not being such a self righteous bitch)
This man be mean but she was married to Richard for six years, I have boots that are older. I always think pain is pain, whether it’s 10 years to 1 but for someone who refuses to let anyone compare their pain to hers, you’d think she was married 30 years.
I’m going to miss Tinsley. I’m going to miss Blue Stone Manor. Dorinda….not so much. She’s just too damn angry at this point, too jealous, too vicious.
I wish Ramona would go as well. I’m sick of her self-centered BS.
Sonja was cracking me up tonight when Dorinda called out Ramona for sleeping with a different man every night… “it’s true.” LOL
I just had trouble feeling empathetic toward Lu about her father. Is this real…her tears, emotions, etc??? Where’s this Lu been??? All we’ve seen for years is I’m the Countess darling, and Cabernet Cabernet Cabernet.
I’m with you about Lu! My default is to be empathetic so if this is real, we could actually have a much better show as long as she can manage to not slip back into her Cabernet persona. Sonja always cracks me up. I was very worried about her this season and she looks like she’s doing much better. I miss Tinsley already! I will not miss Dorinda’s rabid hatred.
“Cabernet” persona…
I see what you did there! ?
When Dorinda said she wouldn’t want to be in a relationship where “you have to give up your life and be totally dependent on a person,” I was astounded. Isn’t that exactly how she was with Richard? Moved to London with him? Was dependent on his money? Even now lives on his money?? Dorinda was vile to Tinsley, and I’m glad Tinsley held her own against her.
The lack of self-awareness exhibited by Dorinda, Ramona, and Luann is astounding.
I do think the mother/daughter thing is huge between Ramona and Leah. Even before their moment at the end, where they talked about it, I thought that was key. I remember the scene from fairly early in the season, when they were in an SUV, when Ramona expressed her motherliness toward Leah. I think Ramona is very aware of the generational difference between her and Leah. She doesn’t think of Leah as a peer or a girlfriend; she thinks of her as a daughter. That is why Leah’s sexuality bothers her so much. She feels like she has to teach/train/guide/limit Leah; she can’t just cut loose with Leah as she does with Sonja.
Leah came off very well at this reunion. I am very curious to see if Leah really does say Dorinda doesn’t hit below the belt regarding Lu, or if that’s yet another misleading edit. Dorinda’s bringing up–at least twice? maybe more?–Lu’s mugshot when she is drunkenly angry at Lu reveals some very deep ugliness in Dorinda.
Ramona doesn’t think of Leah as her daughter, she thinks of her as herself. Ramona has strong narcissistic tendencies and treats Leah as an extension of herself. Since Ramona does not express her sexuality the way that Leah does, she strongly objects to it.
So proud of Tinsley. She did not hold back.
I know Ramona is in her sixties and Sonja and Dorinda can’t be far behind. I propose a show called The Village Vixens where these seniors can move to The Villages and get laid by Viagra every night of the week by aging Harry Dubins and sexually harass the younger, male staff. I have read the data where the STIs there are off the charts and the residents stay inebriated. This is right up there alleys. Ramona can go trolling for her 1%ers on weekends in Palm Beach.
I second your proposal!
THIS, thank you:
‘Ramona has no idea how to social distance at all’.
I mean she didn’t even think about her mask. At this point, there’s no one I speak to who doesn’t have them in their car, wherever they put their car keys, on the counter, etc. clearly she’s not developed that as a second nature which makes me question if she ever wears one unless it’s enforced by a business.
I was gifted with a few of the N95 masks (from one person) and also cloth masks (made by a kind reader) I wear the cloth masks on the occasions I walk my dog and shared with an older lady in my hood hoping the male in the house would use them too. (He is pissed he has to wear them in the grocery store. I keep one of each in my car. The N95 work best for me in the grocery store (aka around more people) and I hang it over my rear view mirror hoping the hot sun over the many days between visits sort of sanitizes it.
TT bring your mask inside and spray lightly with sanitizer & let it dry. Or just rotate them out every week and reuse after 7 days. Just read an article in the paper about how quickly germs multiply on objects in cars getting over 90 degrees – which is the inside of every car south of Maine. Coins being the worst – carrying staph & super bugs etc. I guess our cars are just big Petri dishes. I think all of us were keeping our masks in our cars.
I never thought of that. I keep some surgical style paper masks in a ziploc bag in my console in case the cloth ones are being washed but most of my friends hang them on their rear view mirrors. Something to think about.
I’ve said For years that Ramona is charmless & ignorant with no social skills. Social climbing seems to be her only job – hit it & quit it – & it is embarrassing to watch her “flirt” as if she was some 16 yr old coquette. And I’ve always thought that her distaste for Leah’s behavior is more mother/daughter than anything else. They had established that relationship early on & is the crux of her holding Leah to that different standard.
Dorinda is not just a mean drunk, she’s a mean person sober. She condescends, throws bombs at her “friends” and, as Tinsley rightfully said,
can NOT be wrong about anything. She has this elevated idea of herself – with all her pithy adages – that she is right about everything. She is reminiscent of a school yard bully that never left the schoolyard. I hope she doesn’t come back. Go stay in Blue Stone Manor & never return.
Brava to both Tinsley & Leah for being firm & articulate in their comments. Seems Tinsley’s time with that fighter/trainer worked because she scored jabs & a knockout on Dorinda. Laid her out & did NOT accept her weak ass apology.
Leah also laid Ramona out for the bipolar issue. It is another example of Ramona spilling secrets on another to appear relevant. As much as these women talk about being mothers, they always bypass Leah who still has a young kid at home. That was abhorrent & should be considered as vile a behavior as Dorinda’s. Ramona has done this time after time, season after season. PLEASE – get rid of Ramona! Please pay Leah whatever she wants so she comes back.
these reunions get worse with each one. It seems all that is missing is the cauldron and the pointy hats.
Dorinda is very angry that Richard died, left her, and took away her great life.
Ramona is a horrible person and needs to go.
This is my last season of RHONY unless they do a cast shake up.
Agree! Ramona needs to go; give Leah her raise. Find some younger housewives to mix it up with. Glad Tinsley got her happy ever after!
Apparently, Leah didn’t have the best representation when signing on to the show. She signed the usual five year contract with options that outline what she would make for each season. All the celebrity love has made her think she should get A LOT MORE. She has new reps who will probably be able to get her pay kicked up a little bit, but nowhere near what she is asking for. The good news with Dorinda gone, and possibly one more *cough* Ramona… she will be able to ask for more if she is on a third season. To be fair, she is not making much at all (comparatively) to other housewives, but she has to wait her turn.
JoJoFLL I agree 100%. This cast needs to be blown up but I think I’m in the minority of viewers who is not crazy about Leah. I’m afraid they will make her the focus of next season and if that’s the case then I’m out.
I think the Bravo suits didn’t appreciate the class and grace of Tinsley until it was too late.
Not everyone wants to see rude, crude and mean drunken fights every single episode!
I miss the early season when the friendships were authentic and not straight out of central casting and the storylines were about their actual lives instead of the production driven crap we’ve witnessed the last 3 season of RHOBH.
Totally unpopular opinion here but I kind of see where Dorinda is coming from. Not to excuse her behavior but I do see how she felt she put her all into it and also has continually opened up her home to film in etc while Tinsley just hopped onto a plane filmed what little she had to and left. I saw Leah try to bond with the women where as Tinsley didn’t. Dorinda was always my favorite housewife and it’s sad to see that she’s faulted this season and probably should have taken a season or two off or known when to step back and work on herself. Hope she comes back eventually better and we’ll get to go to the Berkshires again! Again, I know I’m in the minority on that opinion.
Also ready for a break from Ramona and her complete lack of awareness and Trump like personality.
Completely with you on this. Apparently Tinsley showed up to film then left and didn’t bother she may have struck up a friendship with Leah but she had no attachment to the other Ladies.
Say what you want about Dorinda on the show but of all the housewives in any of these franchises she seems genuinely invested in the other ladies lives outside the show.
Great recap twin. I just realised something about watching RH franchise that is funny & yet profound. In the entire month of not watching Bravo ( whilst reading your recaps ferociously) I figured out that by not working my second job waiting tables I have no need to follow these shows anymore. I always use these shows as anger management i.e. after coming home from a grueling 8 hours in a mask on the sidewalk in the heat & is no longer necessary ! Will read your recaps til the day I die but no more Bravo housewives for me. Until RHONJ returns anyways. Love the Italian family dynamics the children growing up & laughing at all the shenanigans of the adults who are clueless about everything happening outside of New Jersey. Gia & Frankie will far surpass their biological progenitors. Love them both. Smart funny sweet young adults who will hopefully end up together. # hopeless romantic # just plain jane old maid hopelessly devoted to love
I don’t understand why Dorinda continues to say that Tinsley’s financial security is dependent on Scott!? Tinsley’s family is wealthy AF. She’s never worked on the show, before or during Scott!? WHAT AM I MISSING?!
I’m so happy for Tinsley sticking up for herself, and can’t believe how jealous Sonja is of Tinsley.
Ramona’s blonde hair is something else ?
I don’t like Ramona but she is necessary for push and pull between the cast, in my opinion. She’s old, Trumpy, impolite, politically incorrect most of the time, and impressively unself aware, but no one is going to join the cast and willingly be that guy. No one halfway sane, at least. There has to be at least one love to hate person. There also has to be some real estate porn and now that the decrepit townhouse is out of the picture, all we have is Ramona’s Hampton’s house.
The only time I laughed during the reunion was when Ramona called Dorinda a liar liar pants on fire for saying Ramona isn’t “that thin.” How is “you’re a liar” a response to fat shaming?
On the other hand, I find Leah likeable but useless to the show. I keep reading that she’s “real” but I see someone doing a parody of what she thinks a down to earth young downtown former juvenile delinquent would act. She seems like the type of girl who kissed other girls just for attention a decade ago when that was something attention seeking girls did, and she’ll do that or take her clothes off all the time. Not a ton of room for evolution there.
I’m really surprised to read how little she is paid for the show. What would motivate someone to have her whole life and family publicly dragged through the mud for 60k a year? She escaped the season with her reputation relatively intact and got a bunch of exposure for her brand. That’s an accomplishment.
I will miss Tinsley. Dorinda robbed us of her.
I’m not sure Ramona is actually a Trump supporter, her incoherent rant to her shrink was straight up Biden. Hoping Andy questions her on that next week, it was literally the funniest part of the whole season!
She is. You don’t attend a fund raiser of you’re not a supporter. And she voted for him in 2016.
Trump & Ramona make similar gestures. Now, all I can see is Trumona.
Don’t you remember the election season?
I think Housewife shows in general really only work when there is longstanding friendships between the women before they join the show; otherwise it just feels scripted/fake. I don’t mean all the women have to have been close friends, but every woman needs to be genuine friends with some other cast member.
Also, I think the emphasis should be on casting witty, fun women. The emphasis seems to have shifted to a need for “storyline,” which they take to mean drama, which just turns into screeching and fighting or rehashing the same argument (pantygate, puppygate, etc). I don’t need “storyline” if the show is following clever, witty women living fabulous lives and reacting with good humor.
Also, I would make the rule of no promoting new products on the show. I didn’t mind seeing LVP’s restaurants, because she had those businesses long before the show, but Ramona’s lotions, and Sonja’s toaster oven and clothing line, and Gretchen’s purses, etc–all that just makes the shows feel like fake infomercials, like they are just trying to capitalize on their “fame” from the show.
I know Ramona socializes and has dates, but I can’t believe she has sex with lots of men. I think she’s prudish down deep. I don’t care what Sonja says — Sonja probably does have sex with tons of men.
I was so happy that Tinsley stood her ground and didn’t back down with Dorinda. Tinsley made great points. And you know she was getting to Dorinda because Dorinda just screamed louder and made more disgusting remarks, like “Tinsley, I hate your life.” wtf? But Tinsley wins and that I am sure is still killing Dorinda. I am digging deep to feel sorry for Dorinda and her unhappiness, but just can’t. Her meanness is shocking.
I am not sure what Leah adds. She tries too hard to be the cool, outrageous girl from downtown. Her drunken behavior was not entertaining.
I found it interesting that Lu didn’t like what she saw in herself when she was drunk and decided to back off drinking. Good for her.
I found Dorinda’s anger toward Tinsley (and Ramona) at the reunion noteworthy because she seemed sober. At least, she wasn’t slurring. Maybe it is too generous to say that Dorinda is just mean and angry when drunk. I’d been using that theory to excuse her bad behavior…that alcohol turned her from a mogwai into a gremlin.
“I hate your life!” is such a miserable thing to say, or feel.
Comparatively speaking, I still don’t see why Dorinda lost her spot. Housewives have had way worse behavior including bullying, physical altercations and breaking the 4th wall.
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never learns, she becomes more unbareable each season. She lacks breeding, sophistication and simple good manners. I truly think if they get rid of her it will destroy her. I’ll miss the lovely Tinsley. And I can’t abide Leah. I’ll not miss Dorinda or the way she treated Tinsley. Luann is full of herself, but she not a mean girl. Sonya needs help, but she need this show for the money, so I hope she stays!