RHOBH is my favorite franchise at the moment and for some reason I just can’t seem to do a RHOBH recap timely. The cheese has slid all the way off my cracker. I am over this whole COVID thing. Our government has let us down. Anyway, let me see what I can do about this. Apologies for being behind on everything. I just want to sleep. I am three or four shows behind on recapping. š I really want to see the Rome shows though so let’s start there.
We pick up in Kyle’s suite after last week’s big confrontational dinner. In attendance are Kyle, Teddi, Sutton, Rinna and Erika. And Dorit, Garcellle and Denise are in Garcelle’s suite. Denise say that it is slander. Sutton fears that Denise will just get the hell out of Dodge, errr Roma. I suspect that is exactly what will happen. Then what will the bitches talk about? It’s all about getting the spotlight off whatever it is they are doing, and onto Denise.
Rain Boots In Roma
The next morning, Sutton had rain boots made for everyone. They are all personalized with everyone’s initials. Rinna calls Denise. She says the dreaded, “We need to talk” thing. Kyle does the same to Dorit. So very produced. I normally hate Dorit and her obnoxious fashions with the brand names in giant letters, but I am love her black Fendi hosiery. If I still had legs instead of tree trunks, I would buy those tomorrow and wear them quarantined in my ghetto shack.
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I adore Rinna. I do. But she should have given her friend Denise a heads up as soon as she heard the gossip. Rinna is wrong here. Denise makes it clear that she does not have an open marriage and she is not cheating on her husband. She also denies saying negative things to Brandi about the others. BUT, then she changes her story about having talked to Brandi before Kyle’s event. That’s odd.
The Group Takes A Break For The Day.
Teddi and Denise both opt out of the Ferrari adventure and shopping. Dorit and Kyle go to lunch. Dorit is pissed that Kyle always cuts her off. I hate myself for loving Dorit’s looks this season. I need reprogramming. At least I hate her talking head look. Kyle apologizes to Dorit for hurting her feelings. Kyle reminds us that she was a witness in the Brandi Glanville and Joanna Krupa lawsuit and testified that Brandi is an asshole but she’s never lied to her. Kyle doesn’t think Brandi would get herself into another lawsuit. I think Kyle gives Brandi too much credit.
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Denise decides to go on the Ferrari outing after all. Ferraris cost $200K+. This is totally Erika’s wheelhouse. They take off to a winery. Nothing good happens at a winery on reality shows. Dorit, Sutton and Kyle head out shopping instead. Which would you prefer? I’d rather shop. But not at the high end stores. At a market or an antique store or something. Sutton has set up private shopping at Dolce and Gabbana. Kyle buys a hat and a pair of shoes for $2,500. That seems like a good price to me, and I am cheap.
Perhaps The Winery Before Dinner Was A Bad Idea?
Meanwhile, back at the winery, I am really wishing I wasn’t out of wine. Garcelle is much happier in the smaller groups. Me too, Garcelle. Denise has an allergy to garlic. Erika says Tom has the same thing. He complains when she gets into bed if she has had any. Denise say to the others that she feels like some of the group thrives on chaos. That seems to be the point of these shows lately, Denise. Denise asks Erika about her issues with Aaron. Erika says that it never works well when the husbands get involved. Denise apologizes on Aaron’s behalf.
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After waiting almost an hour for Dorit to do a photo shoot for her IG, the women are off to dinner. Or the fight club. There is no difference. Rinna talks about her half nekkid dancing, and full on nudity on IG. I had two photos removed from my IG the other day for “nudity” they were both screen shots from a show. No nudity involved. There was one with a couple in a bubble bath, but zero body parts were shown. So weird.Ā Anyway, so far everything is going well! They are just talking about their day in Rome. Denise says things between Erika and Aaron were cleared up. Teddi seems to really hate Denise, what is that about?
Please Don’t Let This Be About Brandi…
It’s about Brandi. Denise says she feels unwelcome in the group when they attack her. We are reminded again that Sutton says that she heard that Brandi and Denise hooked up two years ago. Denise tells the Brandi story again. She says that Brandi knew everything that was going on in the group. Denise’s story keeps changing about Brandi. Could Brandi be telling the truth? Denise claims that Brandi has said she has had sex with at least one person at the table. Kyle and Rinna both think that Denise is lying.
Next week: The drama continues. Can’t we just enjoy Italy?
Great recap. I didn’t watch the show until this morning and I worked all day, so your timing is perfect as far as I’m concerned. I’m really enjoying Garcelle and Sutton even though I didn’t care for them at the beginning of the season. Denise’s story seems to be getting muddled, but I’m not sure how much of that is editing to keep the drama going.
I agree TT this is also my favorite franchise. I couldn’t tell if it was the edits or Denise being Denise, that is half in half out of every conversation making her sound less than direct about how often she talked to Brandi. I think the former.
Garcell’s remark about Rinna not using the best mom wisdom by posting semi-undressed Instagram photos of herself when her daughter has body issues was a direct hit for me. Not the Garcelle I thought she was though.
And Sutton buying the ladies those boots wasn’t her trying to buy their friendship as much as her need to find an excuse to buy things period. I like Sutton, I recognize the symptoms is all.
So if we all send your our shoe sizes who will buy us all fancy monogrammed galoshes? LOL. I’d sign up, but I’ve worn shoes like ten times total of the past five months and a bra even less than that… lol.
I don’t know if Brandi is lying or not, but the fact that Denise’s story keeps changing isn’t good.
When somebody’s version of events keeps changing, that’s a pretty good indication that they are lying about it.
Exactly! The truth is the truth. You donāt stumble around the truth. A lie is something that keeps changing to fit a narrative. I hate liars. I have done in my family and deal with this shit a lot.
*some not done
Yup Denise is the liar here. For an actress she’s really not good at either. And of course she’s not in an open marriage, that’s the point. She lied about that to Brandi who she was hooking up with before she got married (as per what Sutton said, who really doesn’t have a horse in this race) and then cheated on her husband. Sorry Denise is lying liar face that lies.
Yep Denise is lying no question. She couldnt remember if brandi slept over? I would definitely remember if a friend spent the night.
I think sheās hooked up more than once with Brandi thatās why itās confusing.
Iām also wondering now if she started up with her husband at the sane time? Maybe thatās the issue? Was he still married?
I watch this show with my mom, who doesnāt read blogs or social media, and she said Teddi is mean. She IS mean. Sheās had an issue with everyone except for Kyle. Erika and Dorit were both able to put her in her place, but Denise is like me. If someone threw all of those bombs at me, at a dinner where I wasnāt close to anyone and far from home, Iād cry and panic. I donāt know if sheās lying or not, but this whole gang up is just plain ugly.
There are plenty of tweets from #TruthCannon Brandi Glanville exposing Kyle and Rinna…if we are to believe her.
Agree with all the above, also if I was Denise being hammered to death by all this manufactured drama I’d throw bombs everywhere true or not. Some of these chicks dont deserve the truth or the real story. Eff them, “speak your truth” Denise. God, I’m so over this plot. Let’s move on to beautiful Rome please.
I agree that Deniseās story seems to be changing. Both ladies tell the same ORIGIN story ā the first meeting. Both tell about the podcast on Deniseās locale (in Mendocino).
When Denise said, āI think she [Brandi] stayed…ā bad move. Bravo posted them having a pajama party when the podcast interview took place. But EDITING can include rearranging. The āAaron was there!ā that Kyle interrupted wasnāt repeated. And WHEN did Denise talk to Brandi before Kyleās party? Two months before or two days before?
I would like to see a side-by-side interview. When Sutton heard about the rumor ātwo years ago…ā [from Rome in November 2019] the timeline is wrong. The podcast was done April 30, 2019; aired May 3, 2019. If Sutton heard rumors about the make out session on first meeting (not the sleepover months later) that would have been sometime between Nov. 2018-April 2019. Making it maximum ONE YEAR before the Rome trip. Unless the date of the first meeting were sooner (and both Denise and Brandi got confused).
I do know one thing for certain because I have seen it. When people get blackout drunk [Brandi], they often confuse reality. TO EXTREMES. Especially confusing when they remember SOME PARTS ACCURATELY and some not. Iāve seen people SWEAR something happened and believe it, even after video has proven it impossible. Memory is tricky. Lies are not. Which is it. A combo?
I saw something in the āpreviously seen,ā that I did not catch before. When Teddi and Kyle tell Rinna about the rumor during the airport ride, RIGHT AFTER Rinna screams, āThey fucked!,ā Kyle has a DELAYED semi-slo-mo reaction. She covers her head with both arms, then puts her head down. It looks totally rehearsed. What looks totally REHEARSED AND WORSE: Teddi does EXACTLY THE SAME MOVE. But two beats AFTER Kyle. It looks like she watches Kyle for the cue, THEN does it too late. Missed her mark! Bad acting. I now have nothing but disdain for Teddi. wish her well, but she is pathetic.
This right here. The 2 years before story From Sutton caught my attention. It doesnāt fit. Brandi is so far gone mentally that I think it is more than likely she has totally convinced herself what she is saying now is the truth. Which differs vastly from her previous tales about this meeting. I just hate this nastiness to be nasty vibe this group has going on. And itās led by Kyle, Lisa and Teddi.
Nothing fits in this debacle.
Kyle & Dorit – AKA Grifter Extraordinaire – While at lunch – Dorit was emoting her own personal version of LVP – That explains why so many people seem to like her this season.
Dorit is a long game grifter better watch your back Rinna she also wants the crown.
Yes!!! I noticed the same weird delayed reaction from Teddi. It was so off and felt completely rehearsed.
Because I don’t have a social life, I have become more observant lately. Did anyone notice what appeared to be a price tag hanging from Garcelle’s coat when the ladies were standing outside?
I think Brandi is telling the truth.
I do too!!! Brandi was specific about her facts and details. Denise canāt hold her story together. She claimed she barely talks to Brandi. Then, the flashback was shown where she was talking like they were pretty friendly. She claimed she did not talk to Brandi before or after Kyleās party. Teddi had Denise reiterate that. By the next day, Denise was quoting the info Brandi told her about the women and saying that Brandi sleeps with almost every woman she meets and claims to have slept with some in the group. The ladies needed the boots on that Sutton gifted them, the BS was getting deep.
After last weekās show, people brought up Kyle saying Brandi can be an asshole but she doesnāt lie…people were saying then it must be true that Mauricio cheated on Kyle then because Brandi said that (when she was a cast member). I do not remember Brandi saying it from her own knowledge. I just remember Brandi saying it was in the tabloids and that LVP wanted Brandi to bring the tabloids on the cast trip that season (they went to a beach that year). JoJoFLL you have a good memory on past seasons, do you remember what Iām referring to???
I think Denise is irritating the group because of how last season she told how she wanted Aaron to have a happy ending, talked about his big penis, and posted his erect penis under the sheet on social media. Then, this year at Deniseās house when someone commented that Denise & Aaron had had a rough year, Denise said he still has his big penis though and the kids were sitting at the next table then. Denise took the table talk to that level before the others did, so I think they felt she was being a hypocrite after everything she put on camera/social media last year, and the penis talk again this year. Now, after Denise supposedly being so worried about what her kids hear and not wanting other parents to worry about letting their kids come to her house, this stuff with Brandi comes out. Itās kind of like one time itās happy endings, big penis & erect cock, then she wants to be Miss Straight Laced and sheās scolding the others for talking about threesomes, then its coming out that she was having sex with Brandi behind Aaronās back. Who is she??? Wild Thing putting it all out on camera or Miss Straight Laced yelling Bravo, Bravo, Fucking Bravo???
Brandi rehearsed her story multiple times before a planned shoot where she was to retell the story to the people who already had an issue with Denise. Denise was bombarded at a dinner where first she was accused of talking bad about the other women and then accused of having sex with Brandi which had absolutely nothing to do with anyone at that table.
Unfortunately for Brandi her drunk tweets are out there to haunt her. She tweeted that she wanted to have a threesome with Denise and Kyle when they were on WWHL in July, months after their supposed hookup. She said Denise and Kyle have never spoken bad about each other in December. And she tweeted about her love of Denise almost all of last season after Brandiās timeline of the hookup.
She also didnāt say Mauricio cheated, but when Kyle told Brandi she wasnāt wanted when talking to Kim Brandi replied āNeither are you ask your husband.ā So it was implied. She also said Lisa Rinna is bald and Kyle didnāt care about Kimās addiction problems unless a camera is rolling. Now that she is useful to Kyle and Co she is suddenly a pillar of truth? Ok.
With that, I lay my argument to rest, Your Honor.
BravA, BravA, BravA!
JoJo and Mel, I do tres!!!
This has to do with Kyle and Dorit. They used to appear to have a much closer relationship then suddenly, Kyle and Teddi are closer.
I may be wrong, but I think that Kyle might blame or hold some resentment toward Dorit because of the “doggie gate” ending up with Kyle defending Dorit to Lisa Vanderpump (calling her a liar etc) .
I believe that Kyle inwardly blames Dorit for the loss of LVPs friendship.
During one of their arguments about Teddies retreat, kyle said in confessional “I lost one of my best friends defending dorit”
We all know that was LVP. Personally I miss LVP.
I think you are probably the only one here who does.
I agree with you, terrie.
I guess I was wrong.
I agree with you too, Terrie.
I missed her too if for no other reason than I could watch an endless loop of her at her amazing house and playing with her pets. I am obsessed with the water surrounding her front door. I just want to watch how people like her live. I donāt care about who Brandi sleeps with. I like swans moreāeven with their bad temperament I prefer them to some of these ladies.
That’s exactly what I miss about LVP. The house and the grounds are so beautiful.
Iām glad LVP has the season off or somehow this Denise storyline would have been blamed on her. We are seeing the same tactics as past seasons that everyone blamed LVP for.
Uh oh. Now I’m afraid that the friend who told Sutton about Denise & Brandi is going to turn out to be LVP.
@JustJenn – You are cooking with gas. – Nailed it twice in one day for the above and “Brandi rehearsed her story multiple times”
Yes, Jenn. You are King of the World on this case.
Lol thanks you guys. Iāve never cared for Brandi so her hypocrisy and lies have always been very easy to spot for me and to remember. I thought I might get sent to the WLS for my comments ?
Just Jenn. STFU! lol. You know I love you. And more importantly you know the commenting rules. You are welcome to your opinion. I don’t really know what to think about this drama. I think we are evenly split. But Denise has the opposite reaction I would have if I were in her position. If it weren’t true I wouldn’t be threatening legal action and having a conniption fit. I’d be like, Oh yeah sure that happened. Or just laugh. It seems ridiculous.
If Brandi has never lied to Kyle then that means Mauricio did cheat then. Kyle really needs to be careful with what she says. Iām going to watch this episode tonight but not really enjoying this season. The producer driven gang ups on person are annoying, at this point I donāt even care if Brandi or Denise are telling the truth. Iām not even shocked that theyāve cut 4 episodes, couldāve cut more if this is the only storyline they have.
Great comment Chelle.
I donāt remember Brandi stating Mauricio cheated as in her having first hand knowledge so to speak. I do remember Brandi saying it was in the tabloids, which it was, and that LVP wanted her (Brandi) to bring the tabloids on the cast beach trip that year. Thatās why Kyle was so upset with Lisa that year for wanting Brandi to bring them and giving any credence to the tabloid stories.
THIS!
Shes said it repeatedly on Twitter, especially during the time she was being sued by that real housewife of Miami. She only stopped dogging Kyle when this season was being filmed. She also said on the show back when she was on that Mauricio doesnāt even want Kyle further fuelling the constant rumours that heās cheated. Kim and Kyle also mustāve been doing crystal meth in the bathroom and Kyle must smoke pot all the time. Brandi never lies.
I love the selective memory about Brandi never lying. When it suits them. What about admitting that she lied about RHOM Joanna Krupa? That is court record.
Brandi, whi I used to like, isnāt the Truth Cannon.
She is the Uncouth Cannon. Just saying anything hurtful she wants.
#uncouthcannon
It also means that Kim WAS doing crystal meth in the bathroom all night long (BITCH!) and that Kyle wants Kim to fail. Also, her husband doesn’t want her! “Nobody wants you here!” “Nobody wants you either! Ask your husband!”
Kyle exposed herself by trying to paint Brandi as a teller of no lies when she’s been calling her nothing but a liar for years!
Hahaha you beat me to it. Brandi also accused Kyle of smoking pot all the time in Amsterdam which Kyle denied using the āmomā excuse. Oh and Kyle must bully Kim. Brandi was certain of that in her last season and even tweeted that Kyle orchestrated the whole āKim is an alcoholicā storyline for season 1. This is the woman theyāre now claiming doesnāt lie. Good luck to them.
I don’t think Denise had sex with Brandi G. Drunken kissing maybe a little groping but find it highly improbable that someone like Denise ( who has been put thru the wringer with her marriage to Charlie Sheen ) would put herself in the position of being with someone as notoriously vindictive as Brandi Glanville. In my eyes I just don’t see it but if they in fact did I understand why she denies it. Brandi is a trainwreck & not a very good choice for a random act of intimacy. All she wants is to get back her diamond & seems will say or do anything to make it happen. I feel for Denise. Ugly situation all around.
Denise has a track record of being self destructive in her choice of romantic partners. I donāt know her, obviously, but from the outside, it looks a lot like she seeks out people who bring a lot of drama into her personal life. Getting involved with a Brandi-type tracks.
I kind of wonder if Denise and Brandi has originally cooked this up as a storyline but Denise bailed and is now freaking out that Brandi followed through.
I was curious if Denise threatened Bravo legally, so I googled a bit. I didnāt find that intel, but it does seem like Denise is litigious and invests a lot of time pursuing damages for reputational damage. This is total conjecture, but she may have changed course because she was advised that unless she portrays herself as Mother Theresa, sheās going to have a hard time suing others for hurting her image.
I donāt think anyone cares if Brandi and Denise hooked up, I think itās the lying. If Denise isnāt lying she is foing an awfully good imitation of a liar.
I agree. I also think Teddi was genuinely hurt/ticked off by the things Denise apparently said about her. I’m sure Kyle made it clear to Teddi about how she believes Brandi to be truthful. Teddi has no reason to not take Kyle’s feelings and experience with Brandi as fact.
@jaded Exactly you are exactly right
Did anyone else notice the ( seemed like to me & I rewatched it a few times) face Teddy made when she responded to Sutton āBc its REALLY badā ? It ? like serious bad acting!
I love Teddiās role as an unrepentant tattle tale. Being the wet blanket probably isnāt a popular role, but it is helpful to have her constantly keeping score and announcing all inconsistencies in Deniseās statements.
Love the recaps TT. love your site I visit 2-3x daily. You wonder why Teddi really hates Denise, it’s obvi that she is jealous at all the love Denies got her rookie season and became instant fan fav an all Teddi got was oh she’s boring. This group will gang upon one that’s getting lots of love from the fans so they can hide their real problems.
At the dog park when all the doggies are frolicking and play fighting, thereās always one dog who runs over to try to break up the party by barking at them. That dog is āThe Fun Police.ā Teddi is that dog.
I thought Teddi was upset because of the things she said about her. She only told the rest because she was pushed into it by Rinna or to get even with Denise’s statements about her.
Teddi doesnāt hate Denise. Teddi is Kyleās messenger. Happened last year with LVP and now Denise. Kyle is the pot stirrer from the top but keeps her hands clean because Teddi is the one dumb and desperate. She can only stay on the show with Kyleās support. She has never had a story line except for being the messenger. The outing of the hookup was orchestrated by Kyle. Her house. Her sister. Why didnāt she deliver the message? Kyle will always try to and keep her hands clean. Last year is a perfect example. Here we go again.
I wish I could say you’re wrong about that, because I’ve always liked Kyle, but I think you’re absolutely right.
I wish they would all leave Denise alone. Other than Aaron, it is no one’s business and why do they care ?
Denise’s story changes more frequently than Dorit’s accent.
YESSSS!!!!!
LOL!
Denise had a night to get her story together and still couldnāt. I hope she stretched first because that reach sounded like a really far one when she claimed Brandi says it about everyone (referencing sleeping w/the women).
Agree!!!
Its so hypocritical of Rinna to scream dont put that out there about her possibly being the one Bradi had relations with. Rinna was the one egging them on to put it out there about Denise. And DInise never mentioner her name, they all just turned and looked at Rinna.
Exactly, Eddie. That’s par for the course for Rinna though.
I am loving Dorit this season. I even thought her hour photo shoot before ādinnerā was endearing. That really lets you know what a mess the show is. Brandi came in ready to film and sounded just like a defendant prepped by a lawyer. I just donāt buy her version of events. Denise seems genuinely confused and upset by the mess. I suspect editing has made her story seem shaky. I wish Sutton would send me a pair of Hunter rain boots because Iām certain weāre going to have plenty of tropical rain to go with the COVID. Ooo! Donāt know if this is allowed but when I typed the brand I saw them for $36 on Nordstromās Rack if anyone is interested in gifting themselves. I like Sutton more and more each episode. Sheās a normal weirdo. At least it seems that way since all we get is Brandi and gang up on Denise drama. I honestly forget about Teddi until she speaks, then I wish sheād just hush. We survived the first week of school in a pandemic. Every day felt wrong and itās felt like a month passed since Tuesday. I need a baggy of Rinna and Sonjas pills. Lol
Brandi is damaged and a drunk. I can’t believe anything she says because she is desperate for money and wants back on TV.
Two things caught my attention on the show: Garcelle’s comment about Rinna flaunting her mostly exposed body on social media while having a daughter with body issues. Rinna lives for attention at any cost; and, Sutton said she heard the rumor regarding Denise and Brandi two years ago but Denise said she met Brandi one year ago. WTH?
Rinna recently stated she’s known Richards for 20 yrs I don;t think they where friends, She however is a close friend of Heather Locklear who Richards screwed I think Rinna is getting back for her friend
That whole thing of Denise betraying Heatger Locklearās friendship was debunked years ago. They were not friends. Sheen worked with Locklear. Denise became involved with Heatherās ex, Richie Sambora. All of those people either know each other or ate six degrees. Locklear wasnāt the person who started those rumors, either.
These bitches are dull-witted AF. The remark Garcelle made about Rinnaās dancing and her daughter was not a blast on the daughter, it was the opposite. Rinna is the one who talked about her Ameliaās body issues and had her discuss it on TV. They hear what they want to her parents ā e.g. mom shaming ā then accuse someone of doing it.
So on Point.
In Deniseās defense, if I was working on 2 shows (RHOBH & Bold & The Beautiful), had 2 teen daughters & another with special needs, a really insane ex who was dragging me into court, a new husband and recovering from moving during the fires, I wouldnāt remember off the top of my head about my communications with Brandi. Maybe she didnāt remember talking or texting with Brandi before the party until she thought about it.
Did Denise & Brandi sleep together? I donāt know and no longer care. But weaponizing the story is dirty.
@Kick – Good defense.
This!
If Brandi knows everything abput whats going on in the cast, it has to have come from Kim…. via Kyle.
We donāt know everyone who Brandi is in contact with. Or in CAHOOTS with. TT posted here about one member of VPR production who edited to make Scheana look bad. There could be members of production (or cast) who didnāt like the edit Brandi got, or who have it in for Denise. Or, who have it in for Kyle by making it look like she is the one who is behind it all.
I think Brandi may be getting tidbits from multiple people. Some things she may repeat verbatim, others embellished, other things are lies.
People who say Brandiās texts from Denise prove she is telling the truth are full of shit. The texts only show that Brandi went up to Mendocino and taped her podcast. Thatās a fact and not in dispute. If Brandi DOES HAVE the receipts SHOW them!
Every woman is sociable until a cow enters their garden, Bravo have allowed Brandi to be a “cute hoor”
Pretty self-explanatory if youāre Irish, from ācuteā, as in sly, and āhoorā, as in whore. Particularly aimed at those in business, politics and anywhere else that deals are cut.