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90 Day Fiance Paul & Karine Have A Lot Going On

August 2, 2020 by tamaratattles 52 Comments

Paul and Karine StaehlePaul and Karine Staehle are fighting like cats and dogs. Things took a sudden turn I believe yesterday when Karine supposedly got into a car with some dude, taking their son Pierre with her. Paul claims she left with no car seat.

I’ve read about this situation over the past day or two and the timeline is not consistent on every site that is covering the story. So I am going to just go over the major points and hope I get the order right.

  • Paul allegedly called CPS to report Karine. They did an investigation. Supposedly she was not always using a car seat. And there was something about the boy falling out of a high chair. Paul also claimed that Karine was always drunk.
  • The couple was arguing a lot. Karine called the police and filed a restraining order. In her statement she claimed that Paul was not letting her leave the house. He was also holding her green card and not allowing her access to money. There were also graphic descriptions of Paul sexually assaulting her. She also said that Paul’s mother knows what he does to her and does nothing to stop it. The order of protection was granted.
  • Paul accused Karine of taking the baby to a male friend’s house and drinking beer.
  • After Karine disappeared and turned off her phone and her IG account, Paul did an ID live from the hospital. Apparently he went to the hospital to get tested for STDs. He was actually in a hospital bed. That’s not normal. He claims that he tested positive for an STD. He says Karine has been cheating on him.
  • One of their most recent fights began when Paul saw Karine on the phone talking to a divorce attorney. She is filing for divorce if she has not already. Paul says he is really worried about his son. Also Karine’s mother is worried about her.

90 Day Fiance RecapKarine Is Filing For Divorce

That is basically the gist of the story. It’s a royal mess that will not end well. Karine has no money to get home, and no access to her passport or green card. Who knows who this guy is she is supposedly with. But he can’t possibly be worse than Paul, can he?

Feel free to add to this post in comments with anything I left our or additional information. It’s hard to get a good grasp on the story when most all of the posts have been taken down. But clearly they are not experiencing a “happily ever After”

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  1. Kenneth says

    August 2, 2020 at 12:46 am

    I fear the worst. This domestic situation sounds pretty bad. Holding onto her green card is a huge red flag. Human traffickers do that. And I won’t believe this “guy ” she supposedly left with, exists till I see footage since he has Camera footage of everything else. He’s clearly controlling and has that, if I can’t have you, no one can, mentality. People think he’s harmless and child like. But what would happen if a little tantrum-y kid had the strength of an adult Male? Even before they left Brazil, her mom mentioned his temper. His temper seems notorious. And at one point, he said he’d rather a judge take his kid then let her go back to Brazil with him. Like, what? You’d rather CPS take your kid? Then like clockwork, reports Karine to CPS. This guy is sort of a menace. And yes, she’s a brat but all she wants to do is go home now, or be able to get some support away from him. However, without her green card, she’s helpless. Can’t even buy a bus ticket. I always feel for these girls. Cause there’s a reason these men aren’t dating other American women. They’re looking for someone who’ll be at their mercy.

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    • Karen says

      August 2, 2020 at 8:09 am

      Karine isn’t a brat. She’s had to deal with Paul’s lies and temper tantrums for far too long.

      I hope she and the baby are safe.

      Reply
  2. LucyLoo says

    August 2, 2020 at 1:15 am

    Paul is now claiming that the sheriff’s department is looking for Karine and Pierre because they are missing.
    Do hospitals have the time do to do emergency STD tests with all thats going on right now?
    I have a hard time believing anything Paul says d/t his record of gaslighting and dramatics.

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    • Heather says

      August 2, 2020 at 2:25 am

      This is a straight up alibi on Paul’s end. If she wilds up being found dead, he killed her.

      Reply
      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        August 2, 2020 at 4:24 pm

        I think that as well. I pray her and the baby are at a safety shelter, which she probably was offered by law enforcement. Or a advocate for CPS?

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        • Alice says

          August 8, 2020 at 10:17 am

          As you said, law enforcement put her in protective services. As a Social Worker in a Battered Women’s shelter it’s usually the handlers or worker assigned that retrieve the woman/children seeking shelter. So that “man” is not some rando American she got picked up by & esp with an obvious language barrier, without the ability to leave the confinement’s Paul has her in, nor the proper documentation to leave the country. Therefore who ever truly believes this guy who obviously needs mental assistance & help, contacted a STD from a woman who cannot leave his sight much less use her phone unsupervised, then I have great Swamp land in the Florida Everglades to sell you!

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  3. Sasha says

    August 2, 2020 at 2:07 am

    Yes, he still wants to hang on to mamas boob

    Reply
  4. Deb in SF says

    August 2, 2020 at 3:18 am

    I have to admit, this freaks me out.

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  5. Nicole says

    August 2, 2020 at 3:56 am

    Please check out @187anonymousgossipp IG They have all the receipts on Paul. Everything he’s doing to Karrine, he did to his ex GF. I’m talking about accusing his ex GF of cheating, turning off her cell phone so she couldn’t communicate, mentally and physically abusing her, reporting her friend to CPS when the friend tried to help her escape from him. He was convicted of violating a restraining order against him in 2015 in addition to the charges he had against him previously for arson, kidnapping, etc. Paul has a pattern of preying on young, vulnerable girls. His ex GF says she was only 18 when she met Paul on dating app. This guy is bad news. We all need to support Karine and help her escape this nut job.

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    • tamaratattles says

      August 2, 2020 at 4:39 pm

      If a random person on IG can find out all of this information, why can’t TLC do a decent background check? I haven’t read it yet so I’m not saying it’s true But it seems TLC is putting men on this show with a long history of violence toward women. Like the guy with the Russian girl who “surprised him” in the US.

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      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        August 2, 2020 at 4:53 pm

        This show I think is causing another way for wanna bes to get on TV.

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      • Dasjj says

        August 3, 2020 at 3:30 am

        Exactly, both Paul and Geoffrey allegedly have issues. TLC can and should do a better job of screening.

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  6. Vickie80 says

    August 2, 2020 at 4:50 am

    I am legit concerned for Karine. Paul is, and always has been a lying, manipulative, abusive, controlling arsehole, I dont believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
    I hope she has got away from him and he never sees her again.
    #freekarine

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  7. KaraW says

    August 2, 2020 at 6:37 am

    We need a Go Fund Me for Karine to get home. If every fan of the show gives a dollar, she’ll be all set. Could probably have every fan give a nickel and she’s make it.

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    • The Other Shay says

      August 2, 2020 at 7:01 pm

      I’m with you, Paul scares me. I’ve been nervous for her since day one.

      Reply
      • ZenTrying says

        August 2, 2020 at 10:21 pm

        I totally agree!
        He’s so unstable!

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    • ZenTrying says

      August 2, 2020 at 10:18 pm

      I’d be happy to donate, Paul is downright scary!!
      I wouldn’t put anything past him!

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    • Jill San Pedro says

      August 5, 2020 at 2:52 pm

      I will donate too! I am scared for her and her baby…

      Reply
  8. Joey says

    August 2, 2020 at 6:40 am

    Karine needs to find a women’s shelter and they can help her. Since she has a restraining order, she needs to file thru the order to have the court get back her passport and green card, and Pierre’s too. TLC should be held accountable to find her a therapist because they made a lot of money off her. Or they should pay for her to return to her parents.

    In my opinion, TLC should be held accountable because they exploited Karine and Paul. This relationship has not been healthy since we first met them. There is a reason they are not discussed on Pillow Talk.

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    • Kari says

      August 3, 2020 at 7:12 pm

      They were on pillow talk last night

      Reply
  9. tuatha12 says

    August 2, 2020 at 7:00 am

    I am not shocked by this, Paul does love creating major drama.

    I would like to see the results of his imaginary STD test.

    After Karine’s 2nd miscarriage and how Paul dealt with that nothing shocks me in regard to their relationship

    Karine may also be pregnant again so I guess moving forward he will also be wanting a DNA test if he manages to brainwash her into staying.

    I am actually fearful for Karine and the baby.

    Paul’s life revolves around gaslighting, dramatics and pity parties for himself.

    A fool who knows he is a fool has a little intelligence, but a fool that thinks he is intelligent is really a fool.

    Paul is a gobshite – His mouth is metaphorically overflowing with faeces.

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    • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

      August 2, 2020 at 4:49 pm

      Gosh, it is so sad when children are added in a already disaster. His story just fits his way of planning and plotting. The RO said that she came back to see her in laws. That is not ringing true since he would go right there. The court should see what they are dealing with, he exhumes crazy and dangerous.

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      • tamaratattles says

        August 2, 2020 at 4:53 pm

        My reading of the restraining order was that they never planned to live in the us, and she wanted to stay living in Brazil. They came back so his in-laws (his mother) could spend time with the baby. And (not mentioned on the RO) was so he could work and get some money for them to return with.

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        • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

          August 2, 2020 at 6:57 pm

          Oh, that makes sense, I wondered why she was coming here to get away from him.

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      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        August 4, 2020 at 1:57 pm

        Should have used the word “correct” not “true”

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  10. Melcle says

    August 2, 2020 at 7:49 am

    This whole thing is so scary! There is a almost identical story that was posted several years ago about Paul. He had called CPS, said she was mentally ill, threatened her, etc…. she needs to get back to Brazil w Pierre ASAP! Even then I don’t think he would be done. He is extremely dangerous!

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  11. JustJenn says

    August 2, 2020 at 8:19 am

    I hope Karine stays somewhere safe and far away from Paul. The 90 Day Fiance thread on Reddit has all of his old IG lives and they are scary. I could see this ending in a murder suicide.

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  12. Daphne says

    August 2, 2020 at 8:26 am

    Paul reminds me of my ex husband who called the cops on me for a verbal arguement! My ex had something seriously wrong with him and so does Paul. I hope Karine and Pierre are okay. She has got to get away from him and fast!

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  13. Joey says

    August 2, 2020 at 8:42 am

    Karine needs to ask the Judge who signed the restraining order to order Paul to return her passport and green card for both her and Pierre.

    TLC has a responsibility to help her return to her country or at least give her a safe place to stay. Isn’t TLC paying for Syngine and Tonya’s apartment? Why can’t they help Karine?

    It is obvious something bad is going on because Pillow Talk doesn’t mention Paul or Karine.

    Sorry if this comes through twice. I can’t see my original post on the site.

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    • Antoinette Roybal says

      August 2, 2020 at 9:25 am

      Maybe we should ALL put the pressure on TLC to help her and the baby.

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    • Fave4 says

      August 2, 2020 at 12:42 pm

      Read something totally different. Supposedly the fans call CPS and the police because they were concerned over pictures she downloaded over the Internet because the house was a mess and they were concerned for her. I believe there’s a complaint that could be looked up.

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  14. tuatha12 says

    August 2, 2020 at 9:52 am

    I was actually shocked they ( more specifically he ) was allowed back on the show perhaps it is actually a blessing in disguise for Karine.

    Karine I believe is safe and well in a shelter this is just Paul attempting to cover his arse with the same shit he has been claiming for years rather than take any responsibility for his actions and of course wanting his pity party.

    I have despised this man from the moment he appeared on the show, a 30 year old man took a bubbly 19 year old physically, mentally and emotionally drained her, convinced some of his fans he walked on water –
    ( well he does have duck feet ) and claimed she was nothing but a cam girl/lying hooker which was all untrue.

    He keeps getting her pregnant as he will not allow her to get birth control – 2 miscarriages, one beautiful baby with another on the way in the space of 3/4 years, he keeps control of every aspect of her life.

    Karine and Pierre need to return to Brazil and TLC has to take accountability as well as responsibility for their safety until then.

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    • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

      August 2, 2020 at 4:43 pm

      I hope she is at a shelter. TLC I’m sure will help her. Maybe “the guy” was rescuing her and he works for TLC. Fingers crossed. He just had too much covering his ass and obsessed making her look bad to not worry.

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  15. Lorelli says

    August 2, 2020 at 10:27 am

    This guy always gave me the creeps. I hope her and the baby are safe.

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  16. wanderingblonde says

    August 2, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    I have a very bad feeling about this.

    I hope Karine and her baby are okay but I could easily see this becoming a tragic murder.

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  17. Jillian Peterson says

    August 2, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    Has anyone heard anything new? This is scary as hell and feels like it won’t end well. Who the hell goes to the ER for an STD test? The whole thing is way off.

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    • Melissa Morin says

      August 2, 2020 at 8:22 pm

      In these times?! I am genuinely confused as to how in the fresh hell that happened. I hope he had his ass chewed out. Hospitals have sick people who need care. The only place he belongs is the psych ward.

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  18. Mrs. Greenway says

    August 2, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    Paul has always been a scary dude, and he’s never going to be able to get it together enough to care for a family. His parents have written him off. Karine has no one in the U.S. She is not perfect, but very, very young and completely vulnerable. TLC needs to pay for Karine and the baby to get back home to safety. Now. They should think of it this way— if anything happens to Karine and the baby, their whole 90-Day empire comes to a screeching halt.

    Praying for Karine and baby Pierre.

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  19. Melissa Morin says

    August 2, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    I have been following the hullabaloo. An EPO was filled. The police report was posted online. I am happy that their local pd made good use of a translator/interpreters. Paul is claiming that because these services were utilized that the report and EPO are not legal sworn statements. This line of thinking is incorrect. US law enforcement and civil court proceedings have had to contend with major consequences if an adequate translator was not provided. Even if someone is fluent in English, a translator will be brought in to help ensure that things are thoroughly explained. Karine did release a statement stating she and Pierre are safe and law enforcement knows where they are. With an EPO this is not kidnapping. If Karine were to just up and return to Brazil she would be subject to the rules from the Hague convention, of which, Brazil is a member. As someone who is married to a US citizen and there has now been contact with LEO’s regarding DV, she may qualify for VAWA. This legislation was implemented for these kinds of situations. Many fans thinks she would be far more likely to return to Brazil with legal arrangements regarding their son.
    The manic and unhinged behavior Paul has exhibited online, will not reflect positively on him. Regarding CPS, he clearly does not understand that by calling in behavior on his spouse, he will not just automatically get placement. The way CPS sees it, he repeatedly left their child in her care knowing that she had been negligent in caring for their son. Since previous reports were unfounded. They may realize they are being used as leverage in future family court proceedings. They do not look kindly at being used as a weapon. As far as Paul’s claim concerning her drinking and possible fetal abuse. Karine would have been enrolled in a program by her Dr and CPS if there was some validity to this claim. She certainly would not be allowed to have Pierre with her alone. Nor would she be permitted to stay with a relative that has the child for emergency protection. As an aside, if Paul is being uncooperative in regards to psychiatric medication this could prevent him from being taken seriously in any legal setting. CPS and family court are civil proceedings are not public and sharing those documents is illegal in most places. Minors should be protected. The police report mentions marital rape. It is possible her current pregnancy is a result of this. If there is evidence of this, that could wind up as a public legal matter. I survived horrific DV at her age. Today, I am proud to be able to say I won. I wish this for any and all who have been through it.

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  20. tuatha12 says

    August 2, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    Karine and baby Pierre are safe and well.

    She stated they have been rescued from an environment that was no longer safe for all involved.

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    • tamaratattles says

      August 2, 2020 at 5:42 pm

      Where did she say this?

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      • Melissa Morin says

        August 2, 2020 at 6:25 pm

        She released a statement on IG, someone assisted her with it. Based on the structure and diction it was probably xreated with the help of a translator. Possibly a women’s advocate who is ESL. The person who assisted, is a native speaker of a romance language (most likely Spanish or Portuguese), and is fluent in conversational English. It definitely had the correct legal vagueness to have been pre approved by legal counsel. The statement was too professional to have been posted by Paul imho. I know that fans online have been trying to pin point her location, and contact her family in Brazil. Her mother posted that they were safe as well.

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      • Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

        August 2, 2020 at 6:37 pm

        I tweeted it to you if I need to I will delete.

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      • tuatha12 says

        August 2, 2020 at 6:55 pm

        On her IG account

        In her statement, Karine confirmed she was the one who filed the report and denied she and her son have disappeared. “Just to clarify, the EPO was me, I had help from a translator since I do not speak English,” she added. “I also would like to state that I am not missing. The police knows where to find me if they need me.

        This is a legal matter not a ‘media matter.’ that being said it’s the first and last time I will speak about it. Thank you all again, Karine.

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        • The Other Shay says

          August 2, 2020 at 7:03 pm

          I’m so glad she’s safe!!!!!

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        • tamaratattles says

          August 2, 2020 at 7:19 pm

          Thanks Tuatha!

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        • Carol Turlington says

          August 3, 2020 at 1:10 am

          What is an EPO? Just curious.

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          • tamaratattles says

            August 3, 2020 at 2:58 am

            Emergency Protective Order

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  21. Cheryl B.(cherylannburke1) says

    August 2, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    The whole thing is on an tube video live stream Paul started before cops got there. She’s pregnant, her lawyer is talking to the cops who were getting crazy dealing with this. Paul:’s mom kept saying “can we do this private” and wondered what happened since yesterday. His mom cares about the poor baby, and finally kinda lost her shit since karine called the cops no one knows why, baby is hysterical, lawyer is insulting Paul, Paul is insulting karine, it’s awful!!!!!
    It is “Paul calls cops on Karine” the video name. It has all the nastiness, accusations, possibly a Bi polar reveal, and a grandma I have tons of sympathy for.
    Let alone how sad another baby is going to be thrown in mess.

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  22. Carol says

    August 2, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    I just hope mother and child are safe. Paul is not stable or sane

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  23. Jennifer says

    August 2, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    Shelters, at least here in Seattle, are scary places. I feel for any woman who struggles with these kinds of issues. It takes 7-8 attempts, if the victim survives, to get out and rebuild. I hope Karine and Pierre are safe and well.

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  24. Sunnie says

    August 4, 2020 at 1:41 am

    So many twists and turns. Unfortunately with Paul’s record and recorded history of lying, exaggerating and manipulating the truth for his sole benefit its difficult to believe any if what he says. Given he has been violent in the past, I hope ppl can refrain from judging Karine, and really just pray & hope for her and Pieri’s safety.

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