So I first noticed this sentiment from some of friends on Twitter. People seemed to be pissed that Andy Cohen of all people was suddenly against exploiting black people for profit. cough RHOA cough other people commented that Porsha was on the show and thought the underground railroad was an actual train. I have been trying to tell you for years now, ever since Porsha was on Dish that she is faking her stupidity on RHOA for a paycheck and she is way smarter than we thought.
I also need to point out that Andy bought a house in the Hamptons recently and one of you sent me all the deets on that so thank you. You guys always have the scoop. All the rich people in NYC left and went to their summer houses and Andy basically bought his during the pandemic or perhaps slightly before. But he’s broadcasting from his summer home now. Guess he didn’t have the case for P-Town. 🙂
I Am SHOOKETH, Andy Shut Up
And yet, I went to mock Andy Cohen’s little Black Lives Matter event. Then I was the other guest was W. Kamau Bell. I love him! Then Andy mostly just shut up and let Porsha talk. She was fanfuckingtastic. She was articulate. She knows her shit. An Kamau just sat there nodding as she spoke and pointed down to her talking head box.
Porsha knows her shit. She has her FACTS. I was amazed by her intelligence. I KEEP TELLING YOU SHE IS FAKING STUPIDITY ON RHOA. And Kamau agrees with me! I’d love to here what you think of this WWHL episode. Kamau thinks that once the world opens back up and people can go to the movies and do things the white people will forget all about the black people. Do you? Porsha had very specific things about about what all people should do.
House Bill 636
Porsha talks about House Bill 636. She says, “If you go online, you can see my mug shots and there are two of them…” The bill will allow people to access any police officer with a history of excessive force. Kamau is just smiling and nodding and Porsha should marry him instead of Dennis. Kamau is a genius and if he is agreeing with Porsha she must be too. I’m NOT KIDDING. The man is brilliant. AND FUNNY.
Finally after a long, long, very fascinating conversation with Porsha Williams, Andy asks Kamau if he supports Bill 636. He says he thinks he should just leave because Porsha’s got it from here. Andy says he is sitting here watching Kamau slowly fall in love with Porsha. Porsha says they can be best friends.
Kamau praises black women and it just makes me love him more. He has sat there patiently silently cheering Porsha on for the first two thirds of this episode. Now finally he speaks up regarding racism. He says that, “It is unfortunate that a white person’s whisper is worth more than a black person’s scream.” And if the white people had not shown up this would not be getting this kind of attention.
Kamau Rocks Plus What White People Can Do
Kamau suggests Kate Schatz for white people resources and I pulled this Google Doc for you. For those white people wondering what the fuck you can do, HERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS especially if you have kids. Porsha suggests white people who want to do more go to SURJ. It’s for white people who want to help.
Finally, Kamau has a new season of United Shades of America. I love that show, if you haven’t watched previous episodes you should. Also am I the only one who gets subtitles that I didn’t ask for on all the Andy Cohen at home WWHL?
I started this post ready to dog Andy out for this since he loves exploiting the RHOA but he shut the fuck up and Porsha did and outstanding job. They are going to make it a two parter so if you missed tonight check it out tomorrow. Porsha is totally amazing. You know if I am telling you to watch anything Andy Cohen related, it’s important. He’ll probably win an award for this.
After I was doing all my posting crap I heard Porsha thanking Andy with regard to working with him. WHY DO ALL THE HOUSEWIVES STILL THINK THEY WORK FOR HIM. And Porsha’s spot on the show was ensured before this. But others have not been….story developing.
I didn’t watch, but I will. Thanks for the heads up.
Maybe, just maybe Andy Cohen recognizes he’s been part of the problem. Maybe he’s seen something in Porsha a lot of people didn’t way back when. All I can say is I hope it lasts.
I hope so, Mystery.
I love Andy to the point of mild obsession.
He is a privileged white kid like myself, but we are all capable of learning and growing! ?
I watched Kamau’s series and really liked that he wanted to get everyone’s opinions, he was good at that.
I differ in his opinion of white people showing up. I felt like the 18-24 group of white people were, for the most part, uneducated. The interviews I saw with them across all the 24 hour news channels were vapid. They couldn’t answer basic questions about why they were there. I felt like they were Not there for the right reasons.
Many 18-24 year white kids have no real experience with huge societal issues like this. Many spend their lives in a bubble of childhood until they are 18, then go off to college for 4 years in a semi-independent manner. But they are still in a bubble. At least, this has been my experience in a working to upper class area. I don’t fault them for not having a firm idea of why they are there. If they are there and willing to learn, then that is great. If they are there to start trouble, go the f home. Sometimes its about optics and if there are thousands of white gen z kids out there, it makes the images more compelling. If the images of the huge crowds and massive support puts pressure on the legislators, then let the dumb kids come! Maybe they will learn something.
And I totally agree with Kamau’s sentiment of the white whisper vs the black scream. It is a sad state of affairs. Sad but true.
Tamara – if Porsha fakes being dumb for RHOA (which I totally believe), do you also think she fakes being aggressive and having anger management problems? Serious question, not being snarky.
That’s a good question. I think she was legit jealous of Kenya when she came on the show. Smart people have anger issues too…
Wow. I was so ready to read Andy to filth over this. Instead, he let Porsha and Kamau take the lead. And yes, Porsha really isn’t as dumb as she sometimes plays on RHOA.
I suspect Porsha thanked Andy on-air because she knows they have to maintain the illusion of Andy calling the shots on all things Housewives because the Comcast-NBCU executives don’t want us to think about how they really run Bravo and all their other networks. Since I don’t want to derail this thread, I’ll leave that there and instead praise Porsha and Kamau some more for redeeming WWHL (at least for this one night).
Also: every time Ariela comes on, I think areola and DIE LAUGHING!!!!
I am a 6th grade boy.
I replied to the wrong post!!!!
I am very sorry.
I watched but I wasn’t 100% focused. It is on my list to rewatch with full attention. I think that Andy knows that this is an important moment and if he was willing to give Porsha and Kamau a platform, with lots of white viewers, then good for him. Especially since they did SUCH a GOOD JOB delivering their message. So is it exploitative, probably not since I think that they got as much out of is as Bravo did.
Looking forward to part 2!
I’m going to give it another chance also, Kete.
I started watching but wasn’t in the mood for such a serious tone at that moment.
But will watch it On Demand now!
Wow… can’t wait to see this for myself. I greatly appreciated seeing her out in the streets protesting. I can’t say that for any other housewife (but am ok being corrected as I’ve been fairly disconnected the past few days).
Cynthia and Mike took their girls to the LA protests.
Nene and Gregg were out a couple of days ago. I was shocked to see Gregg because of his compromised immune system but he was out there marching.
Nene IG seemed to imply it was a photo op. Gregg stood on a street corner long enough to take a photo and called it a day. Which is fine because he should not be out in a crowd in the first place.
TT, I was so hoping that you would speak about last nights episode of WWHL (thank you). I realized that Porsha was playing a part on RHOA when she was out there protesting and was interviewed. Last night she was AMAZING!! She really should run for office instead of being on RHOA, that likes to stereotype black women and show misogynist behavior. I really hope that one of them say’s Bravo needs to restructure all their shows, that would be a start. Fire (or cancel) most of the cast from VPN (Stassi, Kristen, Lala, Brittney and Jax). If they do not do something about Stassi and the crew than they are just blowing smoke up our asses.
OMG, Bravo is finally doing the right thing!! Stassi and Kristen both got FIRED!! Now Jax, Lala and Brittney need to go as well.!
Good luck paying those million+ mortgages. Glad the guy’s got the boot too.
Now MTV is firing people, Dee from The Challenge got fired as well. I liked her and I am really shocked by her behavior.
What the hell did Dee do?
She posted a racist comment on Instagram.
MTV also fired Taylor which I’m confusedd about. Don’t really care for Taylor but MTV knew about her past racist tweets! They even filmed teen mom og episode around it, where she apologized to Chey for those past tweets and let her know Ryder would be okay with her! Soooo I am not understanding why they fired her. Well I do understand, they are trying to make a statement and appear to be with the movement. However, you rewarded Taylor with airtime for this same very topic a year ago..also, while we are at it, please fire amber portwood. The domestic violence is sickening and she’s rarely with her children! I’d rather watch just Gary and his wife on there with Leah.
At least not another wedding to endure by bravo! Max and Brett got the boot too. I’m guessing if the Faith info never hit the air, they would still have jobs.
Um, no. Run for office because she knew something? The girl is nothing more than a 2-bit you know what. I can’t stand her.
I truly believe she is playing a role on RHOA. I now wish she stop playing that dumb role and let people see how smart she is.
She needs to stop then. It’s not doing her any favors acting dumb and ugly. She’s so unlikable.
37 comments about how you can’t stand is doesn’t exactly make you likable.
What?
Is tonight live or pre-taped? Because if they address stassi, Kristen and the blah twins getting fired it will be very interesting.
They tape it together and split it up by making a part 1 and 2. I doubt that they will mention Stassi and Kristen unless Andy comes on afterwards and says something. Maybe he will say something on Wednesday.
I missed the show. Maybe I can see it on demand. Porsha has likeable moments on RHOA – I don’t care for her “character”. I’d like to see this side to her. And if Kenya can play a role on RHOA, Porsha can too I suppose. Damn you TT for making me reconsider Porsha! Kudos for Andy for using his platform for good.
Don’t fall for it. Anyone that can stoop as low as Porsha has, is not a good person.
I do not think that Matt and Brett should have been fired. They were young Neanderfucks when they (separately) made the comments and both have changed and grown since then. Max especially, including apologizing to his family, which includes his black grandfather. As young people, we sometimes say and do stupid things. Max and Brett seem TRULY sorry. Stassi and Kristen seem sorry they got caught.
Jax has said worse things about Faith than Stassi and Kristen. But his were more about FAITH, than about her being black. Stassi and Kristen made false reports to the police. They are lucky the statute of limitations has expired.
While I do not agree with the racist and mean things, if this is a reality show (cough, cough) about workers at SUR (cough, cough) and these things were not said on the show AND DO NOT REFLECT THE VIEW OF THE PRODUCERS, is that a fireable offense? If this is about THOSE PEOPLE in their private lives, should they be fired? For being their “real” selves.
What about Todd Krissley? Any of the shows that feature people who are RW Christian — hating on Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Catholic, etc. — will they be fired or canceled?
Bravo is just trying to LOOK GOOD. It could have DONE some good. Using examples of teachable moments.
Even Malcom X changed his stance against violence. (That’s when he was killed.) No longer out for violence but for TEACHING and INSPIRING inclusion and true justice and peace. “My mind is a lethal weapon.” is my favorite Malcom X quote. He knew we could change minds to think and feel differently and that is more powerful than bullets.
Depends. Has Chrissly said anything negatively?
Nanette – love you bringing up Malcolm X (Malik el-Shabazz) His autobiography had a huge impact on me in college. That people CAN change and grow in their philosophies and beliefs especially.
fyi… I’ve never heard Todd Christley say anything that indicates he’s a right wing evangelical nutjob. I did hear him on Jeff Lewis’ show and other shows saying that he refuses to give oxygen to the “Todd is gay” rumors because that would imply that being gay is a bad thing. He may believe in Jesus, but I think socially and philosophically, he’s fairly open. The son tried to accuse him of being racist in regards to his granddaughter – but now the son is stabilized and changing his tune. And as someone who has watched the show – he adores that little granddaughter of his and I’ve not seen an indication that he believes that she’s an exception to the rule when it comes to BIPOC.
” I’ve never heard Todd Christley say anything that indicates he’s a right wing evangelical nutjob. ” Again as someone from the ATL I worry you might be on crack.
“He may believe in Jesus, but I think socially and philosophically, he’s fairly open. ”
LIKE SO MUCH CRACK.
I was about to say that Todd has a half black granddaughter that has been featured on the show. When your family becomes enriched with different ethnicities or cultures your perspective is changed irreparably and for the better.
As a white woman in her early 50s (and still fabulous) I am living for these entertainment shows putting up some real content to make people think and to start conversations. Jimmy Fallon, Seth Myers and now Andy. I especially appreciate that every night Amber (on Seth’s show) would give a story of her personal experience with police to show the bias and and far reaching it is.
I love that Kamau said it’s time for white people to start talking about the systematic inequality within our own circles. So true!
And I’m also seeing lots of content on social media that the black lives matter movement needs to be inclusive of the black LGBTQ community as well.
Seeds of change are being planted, now let’s nurture them and help it grow.
Peace and love to all y’all!
Peace and love to you as well LH.
Lara, you echo my sentiments eloquently.
Down to the bio! ?
Yes! I have t seen it yet but intend to. And I’m feeling very smug about my consistent love for Porchia. She has made missteps but I have always thought she was smarter than she acted and better than she was given credit for.
Porsha is very articulate and has evolved. I don’t think she knew the Underground Railroad wasn’t underground, but she educated herself about it and other matters. She does her grandfather proud. She’s also a great example of people can educate themselves and evolve.
She totally never thought the underground railroad was an actual train. HER ENTIRE FAMILY ARE ACTIVISTS! She’s been marching since she could walk.
I’m one of those fairly smart cookies – got a degree and everything! – who will blurt out shit like that. Have my whole life. I never judged her on that sole comment even though I laughed my ass off.
I’ve not watched this WWHL – I’m kind of in a mental shutdown right now. I can’t read new books for some reason (and I’m a reader!) I’m rereading portions of books I’ve read before for comfort. I have this huge list of movies to watch with my parents (yes, I’m still quarantining with them) but I’ve now got my mom hooked on the early seasons of America’s Next Top Model (we’re on Season 4). I’m fishing in Animal Crossing constantly.
But I’ve seen Andy’s Instagram clips of Porsha on CNN when CNN didn’t even know who she was. She’s doing her granddaddy proud. I don’t think people GET who Hosea was. They need to watch Selma by the warrior Ava DuVernay. Seriously people… WATCH IT. Her grandfather is portrayed in it. A major player in the civil rights movement. I wish he was still here to stand with Representative John Lewis. I worry he’s going to get the Rona.
well, um you don’t really want the ATLiens to discuss Hosea. … so perhaps we stick to what a good job SHE did.
TT, Nene is having a meltdown on social media and even claiming Andy and Bravo are racist. This has to mean that she is getting fired…. of course, Nene has to make BLM and the murder of unarmed black men about her privileged, millions dollar making ass…
Don’t count on Nene getting fired. At the moment though, only Kandi Kenya and Porsha are negotiating their contracts, once that is over they will see how much money they have for the rest of them.
I wonder how Phaedra feels watching this episode…
I would have taken the whole thing a lot more seriously if they’d had an intelligent and informed person speaking on the matter. But Porsha??? Who thought the Underground Railroad was a real train that ran underground? Who doesn’t know how many days are in a year?? Girl, bye!!
Why didn’t they get Dr. Jackie? Or Dr. Simone? You know, people who are educated and articulate and well informed? Porsha is only relevant because of her grandfather and clearly the apple fell so far away from that tree that it spoiled and turned to mush. My friends are a lot more educated and well spoken than Porsha is. I’ll listen to them before I listen to Miss Porsha. ?
You need to watch WWHL. This was NOT the RHOA Porsha. No way did she get so articulate, informed and intelligent since RHOA. She ROCKED. Tamara has been right all along, she was playing dumb for storyline. This “new” Porsha has a much better storyline. Nite to Porsha: Smart is so much sexier than dumb. I have completely changed my opinion of Porsha.
Carson, I have a strong feeling you did not watch this show, Once you did, you will realize that you are the uneducated one.
You are correct; I didn’t watch. I didn’t want to hear Porsha talk about this and I’ve said why.
In my opinion, NO ONE could have done any better than Porsha did on both nights of WWHL. She has a brand new fan in me. I think she was much more normal and likeable this season, but the REAL person on WWHL was nothing short of amazing. No THOT. She was articulate, quick-witted, and very clear on her topic of what people need to do going forward.
I have repeatedly pointed out here that I don’t ordinarily watch Dish Nation. And once I started because of RHOA, I would check in from time to time. I’m not sure anyone knows how HARD that job is. It’s not showing out on RHOA where people follow whatever you do. It is way more complicated. And she is exceptionally good at it. Not Ditzy. Very well spoken. Funny. Professional. Just very good.
And now this I am Team Porsha forever.
But I would be remiss if I didn’t say that Bravo probably probed her to say the stupid shit about the underground railroad. I feel like Bravo doesn’t want any of the black women on RHOA to be perceived as smart and successful. Kandi is the only one who really bucked that Idea.
UNTIL NOW.
Tonight’s episode was even better. I am OFFICIALLY TEAM PORSHA.
Also I watched right before I had to recap Dirty John. W. Kamau Bell shared a story about his young daughters being exposed to to the video of the murder of George Floyd. One kid asked why he was calling out to his mother if she was dead. And the NINE YEAR OLD SAID….”Maybe because he saw her.” AND NOW I AM CRYING AGAIN.
I didn’t realize the first night who Kamau Bell is. I’ve eaten at that restaurant he mentioned in Berkeley where he was chased off by an employee for bothering some women at a table outside, one of whom was his white wife. Small world! I remember that incident very well, and the place changed hands shortly after the public outcry. Thanks so much for recommending we see WWHL cause I hadn’t planned to.