I have great expectations for tonight’s Below Deck Reunion Recap if for no other reason that the awkward photos I pulled for it today. We start right off with sexual harassment. Not by the deckhands just yet, but by the guest that was harassing Simone. The charter guest was not confronted because they were guest and the ship had literally sailed. When asked about Kevin talking back to a guest who told him to step up his game, Captain Lee says that could have been handled better. Kate points out it is annoying when someone who tells you to step up your game. A perfect jab at Kevin for doing just that all season.
It’s time to discuss Simone and Courtney and how they performed as stews. For some odd reason Andy asks Captain Lee to weigh in first regarding Simone’s desire for more training. He gives a straightforward response about a second stew needing to come in with second stew skills. Simone wants to argue. Let’s just let Les Doggg handle this.
Why @capthlr @Kate_Chastain @BravoTV #belowdeckthailand pic.twitter.com/sFnQD7yzwr
— Leslie Jones ? (@Lesdoggg) February 11, 2020
Simone has no leg to stand on she could not cut lemons or open a bottle of wine. Most people can do both of those things without any training whatsoever. Simone says that her resume said she had no service experience and in the next breath she complains about not getting much time on service.
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Kate is being extremely professional and kind to Simone. Simone keeps whining. Kate finally suggests that she go take a course being a stew in Fort Lauderdale. This is something she needed to do before applying for a job. A viewer asks Captain Lee why he always lets Kate get away with bulling a someone to tears. This may be the case in every single season prior to this one. But that is not what happened this season. Simone is just a crybaby. Captain Lee doesn’t say that, I did. He said Kate didn’t bully Simone.
Andy Cohen Is Ride Or Die For Ashton Pienaar!
Andy has the nerve to compare Ashton’s treatment of Rhylee to Kate’s treatment of Simone. He is such and idiot. Kate points out that the guys cuss each other out all the time. There is no cursing in the interior, only giving orders. Abbi is the only one who is just happy to be there. She got flown in from Greece for this. Andy asked about her feelings on Ashton’s leadership. She gave a very polite answer.
Ashton basically said no one on his team feels like he cursed at them or treated him badly. Rhylee points out she was on his team. Then he brings up Katie on the season where she horrifically bullied Caroline by blaring speakers outside her cabin and forcing her off the yacht. Yes, that happened. Yes that was beyond horrible. But let’s stick to this season and what you did, Ashton!
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Then, Ashton says that Kate could have handled their interactions more professionally this season. Kate and I both have ARE YOU KIDDING ME? type reactions at the same time. Captain Lee asked Ashton if he feels like with his limited experience he is in a place to criticize someone with way more experience? Then dumbass Andy jumps in to defend Ashton by saying he ask Ashton to… to what? Criticize Kate? Kate responds that while Ashton was still gyrating in a speedo for dollar bills she was already a chief stew and that was before Below Deck.
Ashton Tries To Come For Captain Lee And Kate? How Stupid Is He?
Then Ashton asks Kate when the last time she worked as chief stew without the cameras. She says four years ago. AND. THEN. THE. LITTLE. ASSWIPE. ASKS. CAPTAIN LEE. Are you kidding me. When was the first time you worked on a boat you little piece of shit! I am surprised Captain Lee or Kate didn’t jump up and drag his ass across the stage housewives style! The unmitigated gall and complete lack of remorse from Ashton is ASTOUNDING.
I’m gonna let Leslie Jones handle this. My ass hurts.
I don’t watch reunions! @capthlr @Kate_Chastain @BravoTV #belowdeckthailand #doneterribly pic.twitter.com/51Z1IICer2
— Leslie Jones ? (@Lesdoggg) February 11, 2020
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Kate points out that Ashton is working on a yacht that belongs to someone the girl he is currently fucking owns. So it is not like he is really employable at this point. Then he starts threatening Rhylee and Kate saying they need to stop saying that or the is going to be an issue. Then, Andy defends Ashton AGAIN.
Moving On To Kevin & The Interior
Let’s face it the chef is always snippy with the stews. Is Kevin a dick? Yes, of course! But on the scale of dickish chefs, he’s certainly not in the top two or three! Andy is sticking it to Kevin way more than he did Ashton. Captain Lee and Kate are both very fair and at times very complimentary to Kevin. Kate thanks Kevin for the great food for the crew and says he is the hardest working chef she has ever worked with.
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Andy asked about Kevin saying he would never bring up his daughter to be like Kate. Kevin has enough sense to apologize and tell both Kate and Rhylee that the both have attributes he admires. Apparently, Kevin is smart enough to realize he should not continue to dig his own grave on the reunion. Andy keeps offering Kevin rope and Kevin refuses to hang himself. Kevin apologizes about the comment.
It’s Time To Discuss Tanner The Fuckboy
But is looks like we are going to start with Brian. Courtney says she has not enjoyed reliving the season. Courtney says that she had to block Brian for his very aggressive messages when the episodes aired. Brian says they weren’t aggressive he just wanted answers. Brian claims he did not break up with Courtney over text message.
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Both Courtney and Simone received messages from the guys they were with saying something to the effect of “We are just having fun, right?” That was no coincidence we saw them both trying to figure out how to dump the girls before charter was over so they would not be expected to keep in contact. Andy sticks up for all the girls, except when it comes to Ashton. Did Ashton have some sort of mental breakdown back stage where Andy promised to defend him if he would just get on stage and do the show?
Abbi’s Happily Ever After…
Out of the blue, Captain Lee comes for Kevin. Kevin is sort of responsible for stirring the pot with Brian and Courtney. However, Captain Lee’s ire is disproportionate to the situation. Especially, since the topic of Kevin has passed. I don’t understand why Captain Lee is so heated toward Kevin.
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Finally, we get to talk to my favorite crew member this seaon, Abbi. She tells us that her visa to stay in Greece had expired so she told her Greek boyfriend that she was just going to move on with her life and perhaps visit him in the future when she could get another visa. He proposed. They got married. They have been married almost a year and they run a charting sailing business. Click the link! It’s a beautiful website and I plan to show up on Abbi’s doorstep when I start traveling again!
Time To Trash Tanner
Andy uses a viewer question to ask Tanner about his horrible treatment of Simone. Actually, I think Simone bears some responsibility for this. People treat you the way you allow them to. She did not present herself to Tanner as someone deserving of respect so he didn’t give her any. Unlike Ashton though, Tanner has the since to own up to his behavior and apologize.
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And yet, Andy goes hard on Tanner. Now don’t get me wrong, I wanted Andy to go hard on all the guys, but he went hard on everyone except Ashton, the worst of them all! Andy asks what Tanner’s mom thought about his behavior. Then, Tanner starts lying. He says he is not that close with his mom. But then Rhylee brings up tweets from Tanner’s mommy that I personally read on Twitter where she blames Captain Lee for “trashing her son’s reputation.” Oh, Mama, he did that all by himself. Rhylee refers to something his mother said about Captain Lee on Facebook and Tanner says that was a private group. Well I saw his mother trashing Captain Lee on a public Twitter comment.
Nothing happened with Kate and Tanner off the boat because he has a girlfriend. When did that happen, praytell? Kate says that options were limited on the boat and that is why she was flirting with Tanner after he split with Simone. I don’t know why we are even talking about this since nothing happened! Rhylee says that Kate and Simone were not friends so girl code does not apply. She has a point.
Next week on part two of the reunion, Captain Lee has had enough and walks off the stage.
If we ever needed convincing about the misogyny channel (I admit I did), Andy not coming hard for Ashton pretty much proves it. I won’t even go into his crappy management skills just kissing Kate against her will TWICE and the scene in the van were out of control and not legal. Good thing Bravo “Stars” sign an agreement not to sue each other or the producers. His treatment of Rhylee was BS too. Reading Capt. Lee’s tweets makes me pretty sure Smashton will not be back on any Below Deck franchises.
Dying to watch this reunion! Great recap twin.
I’m with you TT-I have NO idea why Andy didn’t go in on Ashton more for his behavior. Im actually a little bit in shock. I didn’t like Andy’s line of questioning either towards Kate. He was comparing apples to oranges with his analogies. I’m curious what happens next week that makes Captain Lee so angry. It almost feels as though there is something we don’t know going on behind the scenes concerning Ashton. Captain Lee seems furious but he’s trying to hold it in. Does Ashton have information on someone that we don’t know about? It feels as though he is being “protected”. I don’t get it and I thought the Ashton situation would be taken care of(isn’t that why they chose to have a reunion?). I was anxious to see what you and everyone here thought. I’m wrapped in a poncho eating shrimp and trying to get into Sailing Yacht…we shall see. I loved watching the Below Deck reruns today on Bravo. Crazy watching last year’s Ashton knowing what we know now.
I tried to get into Below Deck Sailing Yacht and couldn’t. I’ll give it another episode or two before I make my decision but I’m leaning towards “no”. Maybe (Sm)Ashton can book a trip and we can wave bye bye to him sailing off into the sunset because I do believe he “screwed the pooch” on his brief career as a Bravolebrity. Well he’s just an excitable boy (LOL)! I won’t watch any show he’s on so I hope he doesn’t do anymore yachting stints because Below Deck and Below Deck Med are two of the three shows I like on TMC (The Misogyny Channel). The other show I like is Project Runway.
Those boys ruined Below Deck anywhere for me… I’m down to Project Runway!
Bravo was heavily promoting Ashton, then when the viewers saw his atrocious behavior and did not like it, they have been defending him. I agree, it is weird. I have wondered if it is related to his accident ( which was 100% his fault ).
Maybe Andy has a thing for Ashton!?
Andy pissed me off defending Ashton, but giving Kate the 3rd degree. Simone was not 2nd stew material…really wasn’t 3rd stew material considering when Kate gave her a chance in service she didn’t even ask if the guests needed anything, just half-ass looked there direction and said the guests were fine. She couldn’t handle the wine or the fruit for drinks. No, Kate should not have had to train her the basics while in the middle of charters trying to cater to demanding guests needs.
Also, when in the history of Below Deck have any of the deck hands talked to Capt Lee like these douche bag brus did. I can’t believe the way both Kevin and Ashton talked to him, argued with him and questioned him. We never heard Eddie, Kelly, Ben talk to Capt Lee like that….beyond disrespectful!!!!
I hope next week Andy goes hard on Ashton for shoving his tongue down Kate’s throat, for acting like he was about to punch her in the van, Kevin kicking sand in her face, but I’m really having my doubts.
I’m thinking Andy is saving the most dramatic stuff for Part 2. How can Ashton possibly defend his behavior with Kate. Even Kevin & Tanner were concerned on the infamous van ride.
I hope he grills the guys for their behavior, especially Ashton. I could not believe how he kept on w/Kate, and asking about the bullying, even pulling a clip from last season. I don’t think Kate trying to get Caroline off the boat after Caroline quit even compares to what Ashton has done.
Butter disbelief is one of my new favorite terms. 🙂
Kate’s behavior toward Caroline was horrific and unexcusable. She has many past behaviors like that. However, THIS SEASON, she handled herself quite well and was extremely fair to the other stews. Simone needs to quit whining, She doesn’t know how easy she had it.
Simone is nothing less than nauseating. On so many levels. So, Kate did not give Simone any “opportunity”. Laughable. It’s not like she gets less compensation by folding laundry vs carrying a dish. Everyone splits the tip. I mean, did Simone really “try”
to portray exemplary service/ No, it’s easier to blame Kate…Kate “mistreated” her…but Simone couldn’t demand any respect whatsoever from Tanner who crapped all over her profusely. The deeper the season went, the deeper the level of Tanner crap.
Andy has lost his grip on “reality”, you should excuse the pun. Does he really need that extra stir on the pot? We have enough chile in there. It was peculiar that he was defending Smashton, who was cowering and barely making eye contact. tamara may be on to the backstage breakdown before the walk on
I am in butter disbelief at Ashtons behavior on the reunion, I was sure he’d see the error of his ways and be humble. What a dick. Too go for Captain Lee and Kaye has to be one of the dumbest moves ever. Simone is a whiner and I just can’t do a whiner…. and Brian trying to act innocent is annoying. Rhylee looked very pretty tonight , all the girls did.
Thank you for starting my day with a laugh, inadvertent as it may have been. I’m sure your phone changed “utter” to “butter” behind your back. But I LOLed at you being in “butter disbelief “.
Utter butter. Ya know. Lol. ??♀️
I think Andy really hates women, hence the housewives shows and his constant siding with sexual predators (Ashton)… also on WWHL he always has half naked guys come out. He needs to have that shitshow cancelled.
Of course. Adam is a stripper and Andy loves him some male stripper. He can do no wrong.
I don’t remember an Adam who was part of the crew—or any past crew for that matter. Did you mean Ashton?
Adam was the chef with an over abundance of onions…..
I’m not going to watch WWHL anymore. I’m sick to death of Andy.
OF COURSE Andy didn’t come for Ashton. He is the king of the misogyny channel. He may be gay but he is still a bro. And he likes to keep the women in their place, and their place is fighting and having to defend themselves. That is what makes him his money! Ashton is the king bro. He is the pied piper of bros. And Andy wants to steal some of his bro shine.
Andy wants to fuck him.
My thoughts exactly.
Andy holding Ashton accountable for his attacks on Kate or the infantile gaslighting of Rylee is something that will never happen. Instead, he will continue to run interference for him by coming after Ass-hton”s victims at the reunion . Ashton will be allowed to dredge up his version of their pasts and gloss over his actual litigatable and possibly prosecutable actions, because for whatever reason, Andy is smitten. No accounting for taste.
Edited to include a Leslie Jones tweet in the post. Go watch it!
When can we have Leslie as the reunion host!!!
Ha I tweeted “a petition” for just that earlier. We would never be so lucky. Bravo can’t afford her anyway.
Great recap! Ugh, Simmons is such a whiny little brat. If she’s at al interested in a yachting career she’d do exactly what Kate said and go take that course in Florida and then thank Kate for suggesting it! Andy’s non reaction towards Ashton was just bizarre. It was bad when he didn’t react to Ashton’s criticism of Kate, but to barely reacted to Ashton going after Captain Lee was so weird! Something must be going on! I’m pretty sure that Lee must have wanted to knock Ashton out since he’s really big on respect. I really, really hate these “brus”. Rhylee is absolutely gorgeous. I’ve been following her Instagram and she’s living it up, traveling the world and making and selling really unique and interesting jewelry out of things like porcupine quills and animal tusks! She is a genuine badass.
STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AND WATCH THE SECOND LESLIE JONES TWEET I POSTED ABOVE. WE NEED AT LESLIE JONES TO HOST THE BELOW DECK REUNIONS FROM NOW ON.
And her 15 other tweets LOL I LOVE her <3
She is perfect! I picture Leslie Jones hosting the reunion in my head and it is SO much better! Thanks for posting those tweets! I always forget to check for them!
WHAT. THE. ***L*I*T*E*R*A*L*** FVCKITY FVCK FARK FOOK DID I JUST WATCH.
Raise your hand if Andy just flew to the top of your I WILL DUCT TAPE REMOVE EVERY HAIR ON YOUR ASS list.
RUFKM
He had BETTER be setting Sh!t up for a verbal takedown of that smirking inappropriately arrogant little prik next week. how DARE you even HINT Ashton’s behavior this season OR tonight is justified. don’t MAKE me come for you.
Courtney ? Lovin you. more & more, Girlfren. For all Simone’s ‘boot eye haff goot colledge’ claims, you are far more eloquent, insightful and alert. And you stand your ground !!
We’re sending you a tiara
Andy seemed scared to offend Ashton. Ashton got the bosun job eve though he was not ready. My working theory is the accident affected many decisions for this season. Production/Bravo/Comcast want to keep Ashton from flipping his lid. Captain Lee may have also been in agreement of keeping Ashton satisfied until he saw record of Ashton’s unacceptable behavior. I am sure Captain Lee’s personal or corporate liability insurance while on charter is not insignificant though nowhere near Bravo and Comcast levels. No one wants a lawsuit. I know they sign contractual stuff, but this all takes place on the high seas and often in international water. The no sue clauses may not be air tight, and the accident was severe. Ashton may have leverage. Or thinks he has enough to bully his way in the show on his terms. He sure seemed to consider himself untouchable. Wrongly accused and untouchable.
Re the Ashton liability and humoring him to deter any lawsuit. Ashton dug his grave himself in one of the voice overs where he openly verbally admits he stepped “over the line” closer to the water when his foot got caught up, and further goes on to say that he was “trained to know better” that he knew he had to stay behind the line. It seemed odd to hear Ashton admitting he was wrong about anything, but he either 1) was still in awe after a near death experience 2) probably reading from a script a savvy producer handed him….either way Andy comes off like an ass in catering to Ass-ton….is Andy hot for Ass-ton? maybe…I just think Andy is not as sharp as he used to be, is resting on his fame laurels, and is now just as offensive and smug himself as the “bro’s”
What I took from the show- Andy is a total rude dick. Ashton looked completely scary enraged by not being able to express himself. Kevin attempted remorse, but it just didn’t play. Simone’s 15 minutes are way over.
TT thank you for adding the Leslie Jones clips!!!!!!! Amazing!!!!! Andy needs to be replaced. In this Me Too era, it is inconceivable that Bravo not only allowed and aired what we watched on this show this season, but aired a reunion with misogynist Andy Cohen having Kate defend herself for honestly doing her job while not holding Ashton accountable for his drunken, raging assaulting behavior. I love Capt Lee, but after this I don’t know if I will watch another season. I’m not watching the new sailing version. I just had no desire after what we saw on Below Deck. I only watched the reunion in hopes of seeing Ashton and his brus verbally decimated.
On tonights Below Deck Saling yacht Captain Glenn took one of his deckhands and went to a guests room where a couple was fighting. The guy was a raging drunk. He checked on the safety of female and even after she told him she was fine, he had the deckhand stand outside the door to make sure that the fighting stopped. He made it clear on confessional that no violence is allowed on his boat and he and his crew stand read to restrain anyone on board who is being violent.
Just an FYI. Two totally different shows.
I will have to check it out then. I had always enjoyed Below Deck. I love Capt Lee. This season just wasn’t the same. I felt like I wanted to finish the season, and see how it ended, but at the same time could not wait for it to end.
I noticed the difference in the two captains style. Sailing Capt Glenn was hands on at every step and went out to dinner with the crew to keep them under control. Some crew lost it on the boat after they got back, but not in public. Captain Lee must be a little shocked when he sees each season how the crew act when they leave the boat. They are loud obnoxious drunks especially Ashton. Even when they have a paid play day, he doesn’t usually attend and bad things happen, like kicking sand like a two year old. Would they act the way they do it he were around?
I think the crew respects Capt Glenn and the first day off he showed them how he expected them to act on leave. Capt Lee is hands off until it is too late.
There is a huge difference between a large motor yacht and a sail boat. Completely different situations. Captain Lee has a lot more duties than Captain Glenn. It’s not really a fair comparison.
Also, Captain Glenn is on a much smaller vessel allowing him to hear any sort of ruckus on the boat. Captain is inside the wheel house far away from the drama dealing with moving the boat safely from one port to another. He relies on Kate and Ashton to keep him informed. Kate chose not to take her issues to Captain Lee. Probably because she knew Captain Lee would want to fire him but he was also close to Ashton after the previous season.She chose not to put him in that position and handle things on her own.
Ashton ran to Captain Lee demanding he fire Rhylee because he is a misogynist scum bucket who can’t handle females on the deck disrupting his misogynist bru nonsense.
While Parsifal III is a sailing yacht, she is 177′ feet long. I would challenge you on your assumption that Captain Lee has a “lot more duties” than Captain Glenn, to the contrary I would say the opposite is true. Having worked on both types of boats I have a bit of first hand experience. That said Lee is what I call a hands off captain. It’s okay to be that way if you are working with a long term crew whom you are certain all do their jobs properly and get. on well, but in a situation like these short Bravo charters with temp crew, it’s a recipe for disaster. I worked on many large motor yachts where the captains were very hands on and involved.
As for Parsifal III and Glenn, it takes all the skills of a motor yacht captain PLUS a ton more skills involved in running a massive sailing yacht. There are many more ways for people to get injured on a sailboat, you have all the systems of the yacht to worry about, plus all the sailing related stuff. It’s a lot.
Really. loving Glenn, just the sort of captain I enjoyed working with. Highly skilled good natured, calm, cool, hardworking and fun too.
I always liked Capt Lee’s hands off style. He has stated he’s not a babysitter. My husband & I always complain because Capt Sandy constantly micromanages everything. It really gets on my nerves. I have absolutely no experience as you do of working on either vessel. I’m just speaking on viewing the shows.
I really like Captain Glenn! He has a very hands-on approach, plus a very laid back attitude with the crew (thus far). He also seems to have a great sense of humor, which usually makes for a more pleasant working environment.
Why is Captain Lee’s head so far up Kate’s a ** ss?!! I used to like Captain Lee, but I’m soooooo over him after watching his and Kate’s behavior on tonight’s reunion. I feel so bad for Simone and Ashton. Kate and Rhylee are despicable human beings. They’re mean girls and Captain Lee has their backs. Captain Sandy would not have been the whiny little b*tch that Captain Lee was tonight. I can tell that Ashton has lost respect for Captain Lee. Ashton was smart to shut down and remain quiet the rest of the show. Kevin spent the rest of the time bowing down to Captain Lee and Kate and profusely apologizing to them FOR WHAT?!! If I didn’t know any better, I’d think Captain Lee and Kate are f*cking. He is sooooo out of line!
Yeah, you’re right.
Ashton is the victim here.
Never mind that he sexually assaulted Kate THREE times.
Never mind that he clearly has very severe drinking and anger management problems.
Never mind that he doesn’t have the first clue as to how to manage a staff, and somehow thinks that respect is due to him rather than his needing to earn it.
Oh, also? You’re a moron.
I agree with everything you said.!!!???you are not a moron. So childish to call names because someone doesn’t have the same opinion ?
You seem to have the false notion that everybody’s opinion is of equal value. Yours is trash.
I was wrong though. It’s you who is the moron. PM2901 is a fucking moron.
That’s not name-calling. It’s a simple statement of fact.
“Ashton was smart.” “Ashton has lot respect for Captain Lee.” “Kevin..profusely apologizing…..for what?”
There are always mentally ill people who blame the victims and their supporters and defend condone the sexual predator and his fellow harassers. While such people are unwelcome here, it is certainly a reminder that there are people watching these shows that are not playing with a full deck. This commenter’s email address presents as a female. So I feel like this may be a victim of sexual assault in need of mental health services who is acting out toward other victims because she never got the support she needed. Not quite sure how Simone deserves to be lumped in with Ashton. That part is a mystery.
Or… she is just a run of the mill cunt with a very low IQ.
or Ashton’s new agent.
Wait
TANNER’S MOM!?!??
IS THAT YOU??
Is that you Tanner?
Rhylee is always angry, loud, mean and argumentative. If GG from “The Shahs of Sunset” and Vicky Gunvalson had a kid, it would be Rhylee.
I kind of love Rhylee. Yes, she sometimes flies off the handle. but wouldn’t any of us if our “teammates” literally turned their backs on us when we walked in a room or tried to work with them? They are such children and SO immature for their treatment of her, all the women on Below Deck, and constantly running to each other and gossiping. AND they seem to not see that their behavior is a problem!
Kate’s ridiculous explanation of “girl code” was BS!!! Kate is a vindictive, unprofessional, petty hypocrite! I can’t stand her.
Simone is that you? Judging by all of the comments I’d say there’s a good chance.
Yea a few of the commentators on here sound like they have to be Ashton or Simone. They may have taken lessons from Ashley (T-Rav’s crazy ex) and created some new email accounts.
Kate and Tanner were flirting and Tanner was asking Kate out when Simone hooked up with him. Where was the girl code then? Later, Kate backed Tanner off when he hit on her saying that he was with Simone. Although I thought it was gross,Tanner and Simone were no longer together when Kate started flirting again.
Kate is great. Yes, she has made some mistakes in handling her crew, but overall does what she is supposed to do. I really admired her for not running to Captain Lee and telling him about Ashton’s behavior. On the other hand, in the corporate world, Ashton would have been fired and probably had charges filed against him.
When is Kate ever going to be held accountable? That’s a rhetorical question because as long as Captain Lee is enamored with her. . .she can do no wrong and is safe.
He isn’t enamored, he respects her because she gets the job done! Unlike a 2nd stew that doesn’t know how to open a wine bottle or cut lemons.
She isn’t “safe” when a man is shoving his tongue down her mouth or hitting windows in the van. 2 men protected her from Ashton.
She is held accountable for her behavior at every reunion and interview. People call her names, and point out her faults all the time. She owns then and moves on!
Yessss!!!! THIS ?
I can’t believe everyone is going after Andy Cohen. I think he was extremely fair on tonight’s reunion. He made some great points on both sides that people tried to gloss over (namely, Kate!!).
Calm down Ashton.
COMMENT REMOVED BECAUSE COMMENTER IS A MORON WHO DID NOT READ THE COMMENTING RULES.
Another commenter whose point gets completely lost amongst personal insults and attacks. Also Ashton didn’t stand up for himself. He asked an asinine question and ended up looking like a jackass. I hope he isn’t stupid enough to “stand up” for himself if he’s questioned about sticking his tongue in another crew members mouth not once, but twice. And if anyone tries to say it wasn’t that bad or what’s the big deal. Please allow one of your co-workers to stick their tongue in your mouth on two separate occasions And then tell me it wasn’t that bad or a big deal.
This is coming from someone who really liked Ashton. Until I saw his behavior this season.
Did I really just read a comment where someone inferred Captain Lee and Kate are f*cking. Followed by he (Captain Lee) is so out of line. Perhaps the commenter should review the various words they used. Since their language and insinuations were waaaayyy out of line.
You don’t like Captain Lee, Kate or Rhylee. No problem, but please express your opinion in a somewhat logical and respectful manner. Otherwise whatever point(s) you were trying to make get lost amongst all the personal attacks and insults.
I know. I’m asking a lot, but I figured it was worth a shot
I, too, was surprised about how angry Capt Lee was at Kevin. To me, the one he would be most angry at is Ashton, though perhaps Ashton’s accident last season complicates that relationship. I thought Kevin genuinely felt remorseful after he watched the season.
If Andy doesn’t bring up Ashton’s violent behavior in the van and the fact that he forcibly kissed Kate not once but twice, I will be really upset. That behavior was the worst thing all season.
These charters are not really the place where one can get the amount of service training Simone needs. It should be assumed you know how to open wine and cut fruit and do other things, and the only training would be boat-specific things, not starting from scratch. As Kate said, laundry and turndowns have to be done. It makes much more sense for the enterprise as a whole for Simone to do those and Courtney to assist with service. They don’t have time to give Simone remedial training.
I like Courtney! And at the beginning of the season, I thought she would be a whiny brat–but I changed my mind.
Rhylee butted in too much tonight. She didn’t need to get in the middle of things between Brian and Courtney, Kevin and Kate, Tanner and Kate/Simone, other things. She is just abrasive; she wasn’t helping things.
I didn’t really like Capt Lee that much this season. He’s always telling the bosun that it’s their job to be on top of things and to run their team and to manage people. Well, the same applies to him. The whole boat is his team. He should be aware of what’s going on, be aware of how the guys are treating the women. He pleads that he didn’t know all this was happening, but I think he should have been paying attention enough to know.
I agree, however, if he had shut down the drama, there would be no Below Deck.
Abby is there because she was invited as a female deckhand on a TV where the male deckhands were all misogynist assholes on the low in and a sexual predator on the other end. She is there to give her point of view just like everyone else. She was also very nervous about the entire experience and clearly didn’t want to say too much. Plus, many of us, myself included were interested in her new life in Greece. I already knew about it because I follow her on Twitter.
Andy is trash and probably the reason Capitan Lee walks off the stage next week. People are so afraid to keep their jobs that they never speak up to Andy and it’s ridiculous to watch. Ashton was so out of line all season with absolutely no redeeming qualities.
Why is Abbi there? Is she just a prop? The line female on the brus side? Part 1 was disappointing. Far too much emphasis on Kate & Simone when it’s really all about the abhorrent behavior of the brus towards the women. Courtney is amazingly self assured and expresses herself well. She did not back down, did not call anyone names and held firm to her what went down between her & Brian. Brian continued to try to define Courtney’s feelings for her and she was having NONE OF IT. Brian is a far too simple minded person to try to go toe to toe with someone who is articulate, smart and actually THINKS before she says something. For Brian to attempt to dismiss how she felt was ridiculous. Kevin’s apology tour continues & while I will give him some props for owning up to his behavior, it is a very small percentage. He’s still a professional dick. Tanner is just useless. Simone needs to educate herself on common sense. She takes no responsibility for her own lacks. And Ashton? From body language alone, you know that he is seething underneath and wants to punch Capt. Lee & Kate. How dare they hold him accountable? Accountable for what, he thinks? He is such a rage filled imbecile, an entitled man baby with no depth or perception. He was repulsive and the major reason this hate-filled group of man babies raged so hard. Part 2 had better address his issues directly. I don’t care what Abbi thinks or why this guest or that guest was horrible. Get to the damn meat of the season which was the sexual & verbal assaults that occurred. For Ashton to accuse ANYONE of being unprofessional is a joke. Receipts are right there.
Disappointing is too nice of a word. What a shit show. Andy Cohen is an ass wipe who apparently loves fellow ass wipes. He went hard for Kate and gave Ashton a pass. Yikes. And Simone??? Why didn’t he ask why she was turned on by Tanner’s drunk, freshly vomited oriifice? Also, why go after Kevin when he seemed to be the only dick with actual remorse?
I love Lesley Jones’ commentary more than the show.
I haven’t seen the episode yet but enjoyed reading the recap and the comments. I have never understood people going after Kate so much this season. It’s true she’s not always exercised the best judgment in the past (being good friends with one stew and being mean to the other, for example: not the best way to manage a team). But she has often had to deal with stews who didn’t want to work, had substance abuse issues, were bat shit crazy, and couldn’t stop crying for no reason. I think this season people ganged up on her early on for what? Expecting people to do their jobs? Or people who made mistakes and couldn’t take their own accountability so they blamed Kate (ring any bells, Kevin?). Finally Kate couldn’t take it any more. I wish she hadn’t stopped to their level, like the night she wouldn’t let Kevin use the door. That was so childish. But sometimes a person gets maligned and treated unfairly and ganged up on and they don’t react very well. I have always liked Kate but I think she’s getting burnt out. She’s sick of dealing with demanding and unreasonable guests as well as childish, aggressive, or incompetent crew members. I would hate to see her leave with this as her last season though.
Ashton was seething with rage the entire show. That’s why he was so quiet. Unbelievable how he has taken not one ounce of accountability.
I couldn’t believe Ashton came for Captain Lee like that. One would expect he do that to Kate, but not the Captain. I swear his attitude about Kate got worse and worse after she had repeatedly, and politely, shrunk away from his MULTIPLE sexual advances. There were at least 2-4 on camera. Were there other times that were not?
Also, for everyone wondering why Captain Lee is going in on Kevin so hard, it’s probably because he is super pissed about Kevin kicking sand in Kate’s face. He has always maintained that he sees Kate as a daughter and has defended her as such. So he is pointing out every bad move Kevin made. He is not wrong about the Courtney/Brian saga…..Kevin overhead the what Courtney said to her superior (Kate), took it as shit-talking and immediately upon seeing Brian told him Courtney ‘was going around telling everybody’, which was an exaggeration. So technically, it may have been a non-issue had Kevin kept his mouth shut.
Simone just made herself look dumb. Courtney has behaved like a class act.
My favorite part was when Rhylee ask Simone if she still thought of Kate was “evil”. Best call out of the night at the reunion.
Now I’m off to look at the Lovely Ms. Leslie Jones twitter feed and see if the Captain put a blog out.
With everything that happened this season I had forgotten about the sand kicking thing. That makes sense. It’s not so much that I thought Captain Lee was too hard on Kevin. It was that he didn’t go hard on Ashton and Tanner and neither of them felt any remorse at all. Then we got to Kevin who at least had the God given sense to say the proper words whether he meant them or not. So it was odd to me that Captain Lee showed restraint with the other two, but not Kevin.
I still like my theory that Ashton had some sort of emotional breakdown before the show so everyone was treating him with kid gloves. But he sure still went after Kate and Captain Lee. I don’t know what to think that whole thing wss weird. I wish Leslie Jones would have been at that reunion.
That is a very good theory. He was sitting there like a pouting child that didn’t get his way. If that was the case, it totally makes sense that Andy wouldn’t be bringing up any triggers until the end, most likely to prevent a walk-off. What I didn’t expect was the Captain Lee walk-off. Have to wonder what the last straw was before it happened.
Maybe he doesn’t think the other two are worth his breath at this point. Tanner is a goon who was literally following Ashton’s lead like a lost puppy. Remember at the first day off, it was like Tanner kept trying to be like Ashton. That day was also the day he decided he didn’t want to be locked in to Simone all season. Typical follower.
And totally agree about Kevin saving face and not meaning his apologies. He looked like it pained him when Kate spoke of him so highly. It hurt to watch her continue to give him accolades when he just shrugged it off.
I think Kevin seriously damaged his career with his behavior on the show. I commend Kate for her high praise of his cooking talent.
Before I even read your blog I was thinking something went down too or Andy, Kate, & Lee were all picking up on Ashton sitting there seething.
Also, I think Andy has watched every moment of the After Shows. He knows that those guys have showed the teensiest bit of remorse. (ie Kevin’s shocked look when he found out the kicking sand was filmed). Ashton has shown NO INKLING of sincere regret or remorse. Even on the boat, the brus were initially a bit shocked with Ashton’s behavior (or Kevin’s sand kicking in terms of Brian) but they would IMMEDIATELY lean in to him and follow his lead.
By confronting them first, it kind of cuts some of Ashton’s support down to size before even mentioning shit Ashton did.
Oh, and what Kate did in reaction to Caroline’s relentlessly bad behavior was WRONG. But here is the thing… when called on the carpet on the boat, she owned it. I think at the reunion she said she regretted it. SHE ADMITS HER SHIT.
Oh, Simone is unbelievable. I think she wanted more sympathy about being hit on by a guest, when she has shown ZERO support for what Kate went through which was so much worse!
So much! So much to say! I started watching Bravo years ago with Top Chef and then Project Runway (maybe not in that order) and when I started seeing ads for Below Deck, I watched that, too. I confess to watching two of the Housewife shows as well, though not as regularly. I house/pet sit frequently and Bravo has always been one of the channels I search for on a new tv/cable system.
This may change. I still adore Top Chef and Project Runway but this overt misogyny (sp) is unacceptable. I watched some of WWHL on occasion but not often because of the hours I keep and never really noticed Andy Cohen’s behavior. I cannot condone or give it my time. I at one point thought he was funny but if last night (and the comments of many who clearly have watched him longer) are any indication, I will not be giving my time to the ads that run during his programming.
I have not always agreed with Kate’s behavior but I do believe in learning, growing, redemption of a sort. It could be that that is occurring. Kate’s behavior is NOTHING compared to Ashton’s. We all saw it, nothing that Andy or Ashton or anyone else says can change that. As LesDoggg (sp) we have the receipts. I loved seeing her recaps on Twitter!
I re-started my Twitter account recently just to follow Capt Lee and Kate to show support. It is important to always stand up for what’s right and correct even when those in authority refuse to do so. This is how you effect change.
I found TT far too late but am glad I did. Powerful voices, funny comments and often good sense.
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I stopped watching WWHL, CNN’s New Years Eve and grit my teeth during Reunions, because creep Andy. Is our only recourse a complete Bravo boycott until they give Leslie Jones his job?
The Misogyny Channel’s only redeeming quality is the backlash dished out On the Couch, Pillow Talk and Reddit assuring us American society isn’t complete trash and has a chance of being saved. Talk Soup which returns this week did the same to aid the digestion of all the crazy we see on TV. Mastermind, exec producer, publisher and chief puppeteer Andy stomps those dreams to dust. ?
I just went to Lesdoggg twitter account and it indicates it has been suspended.
Thank you for the recap. I got part way through and couldn’t finish it because I was getting angry. If this is Bravo’s goal, to make women angry, then it is succeeding. They’ve also lost me as a viewer on very many shows. The people who like the conflict and the assholes being the winners, they can have it, because Bravo doesn’t serve it to you on a silver salver, but on a shit stained and rusty hubcap.
The other thing I want to say in defense of Kate is she will say good things about someone regardless of what has gone on. Even people she’s had conflicts with, she is honest about their talents and contributions to the crew and will give genuine compliments. So it’s not like she’s always complaining about people and being negative, refusing to ever say a good word, unlike some others.
Kevin was completely gobsmacked by her praise. She literally rendered him speechless!
I have to say that I was a fan of Ashton in his first season. He made some questionable choices but nothing egregious. This season? I cannot possibly be more repulsed by him. The fact that he just pushes the blame back toward others is disgusting. I hope that he is never asked to do Below Deck again. I was sad there was no Ross this season. I would have loved to see him again. Maybe his asshole ways came out more because he was in a position of power. Maybe having a superior last year held him in check to a degree.
Ross got arrested in FLL while drinking with Joao awhile back. Haven’t seen him since.
https://tamaratattles.com/2018/12/22/ross-inia-has-been-arrested-in-west-palm-beach/
TT, are you Leslie?
huh?
Okay y’all, I’m so mad at myself! I caved from my long Bravo boycott to watch this bullshit. I blame myself for thinking that Ashton would have to answer to his behavior on a Bravo show hosted by Andy. SMDH. I will now get back on the wagon and continue to lower my expectations. I don’t think it will happen in part two of the reunion either. Andy just sucks that bad. Just Jenn said it-everyone is too afraid of losing their jobs to ever speak up. Therefore, IMO, everyone is complicit. Plus, I think Ashton has a lawyer because he is not smart enough to use the words “defamation of character “. Not that I think he has a leg to stand on, though.
The only thing that I noticed that gave me any enjoyment was that when Andrew turned his head the change in lighting showed his bandaid which he was obviously self conscious of as he pointed it out at beginning of show… but the lighting change showed the massive bruises that had been attempted to cover up with makeup. I take great pleasure in visualization of him finally getting his ass kicked! It was probably just a party wound but a girl can dream, lol!
This just cemented my Bravo boycott. I also think that the suits are going to fire all the OGs (especially HWs) because of ageism and their extremely ridiculous paychecks. I’m thinking that they will be bringing in younger new ones who will take less pay. I don’t think they are creative enough to reinvent any of the shows that became popular, so it will just be same shit, different day.
I was sofa king mad watching this. But I only have myself to blame. The network and Andrew will never change. I am now just hoping for the day that Nene and all the rest of the unwatchable “bravolebreties” who are stupid AF, or misogynistic assholes all fade away and file for bankruptcy (or go to jail for tax fraud) because, illiterate and zero financial planning.
The misogynists might be winning the battle, but I’ll not be lining their pockets anymore and eventually others will follow when they tire of it (but never underestimate how many stupid people there are in the world) so I pray that they will not win the war! Fuck Bravo, Andy, Haymaker, 51 minds and any and everyone who has ever been a part of this entire collection of shitshows! Boycott resumed.