It’s time for an interview with Teresa and Joe Giudice, aka Andy Cohen’s favorite Felons By Bravo on this very special episode of WWHL. Next Sunday, the RHOA start their 12th season. TWELVE SEASONS! When will this all end?
Andy Cohen starts out trying to channel his buddy Anderson Cooper in some sort of a fake news room. As if. When Joe comes on he says hi to Teresa and she immediately said, “I mean who dressed you, I don’t get it?” Joe says he picked it. Teresa said, “oh.” Already we see that Teresa and Joe Giudice are not in a good place.It’s interesting that both Joe and Teresa wore orange to their first appearance on WWHL after being released.
Joe Giudice Walks Us Through The Flight To Italy
Joe says he is living with his grandmother in Italy. He describes it as “it’s small but it’s fine.” He says Italy is very different from the US. Joe looks great though. When Andy asks if Joe is still “juicy” we get another snappish exchange. Teresa points out that Joe’s physique changed over the years. When she said he was juicy she was referring to his muscles. Then he got “fluffy.” Joe says he was never “fluffy” he was always hard. Production puts up a clip of fat Joe on WWHL.
Joe goes through his actual flight to Italy. He claims he refused to wear handcuffs. He was escorted all the way to Italy buy armed agents. Joe says they all took selfies with him and that when they parted ways, he told them places in Italy to go have fun. The ICE agents apparently got a couple of free days in Italy. Teresa was not around for any of that. Teresa says that the entire family decided that Joe needed to wait out the judges ruling in Italy. He was not faring well in the deportation facility. This seems like a no brainer to me.
Joe Only Refers To Teresa As “My Wife”
Joe is still angry about the sentence. Especially Teresa having to do time. He says that the original plea deal was no time for Teresa. He says the Attorney General pushed the prosecutor to give Teresa her own sentence. Teresa deserved her sentence. She committed crimes on her own that Joe was not charged with. As Joe talks about the situation with Teresa he constantly calls her “my wife.” Teresa seems to be noticing the language he is using as well. Joe says it is all his fault.
Joe says that he is sad that he is not with his wife and family. It was hard for him to leave his life behind and go to Italy. Apparently he got his high school diploma in prison. He also took some computer courses. Joe was working on a business with a partner for what sounds like a website where players pick fantasy sports teams for professional sports. He says it did not have a gambling element.
Joe says in the ICE facility he was locked in a small room with seven other people and it was horrible. He is proud that he was never put in the SHU (special housing unit) for prisoners that need to be separated from others while he was in prison. But at the ICE facility, he was put in the SHU for opening a window (there were bars so it’s not like he could escape) to let air in. He was in the SHU for a week for that.
Really, Again With The Donald Trump Crap?
Then, Andy Cohen goes off on his ridiculous premise that Teresa and Joe Giudice know Donald Trump. Please. Teresa was on Celebrity Apprentice. That doesn’t make them best friends. Teresa’s eye makeup is hideous. There is the blob of white stuff in the corner of her left eye that is driving me insane. Teresa says she would like him to pardon her. Teresa and Joe Giudice both really love Trump.
When Andy points out that Teresa can’t vote, she asks her creepy lawyer who is clearly two feet away if she is allowed to vote. What does she care? She has never voted in her life. The creepy attorney has not left Teresa’s side in almost FIVE YEARS. Does he have other clients?
Andy tells Joe that on the upcoming season of RHONJ, there is a scene where Joe is on the phone with Teresa while he is in the deportation facility. In the call he blames Teresa for not getting him a US passport. Joe says he doesn’t blame Teresa. When he was in the ICE facility, he was very angry and in a bad place and was blaming everyone out of frustration.
Teresa Giudice Says She And Her Girls Have Changed
Bravo cameras will be filming Teresa and the girls going to Italy next week. Teresa says the girls have a few days off for “teacher convention.” Actually, it’s teacher conferences. She would probably know that if she had ever been to one. Teresa admits she is nervous to see Joe. She hasn’t seen him in almost four years. She says she has changed a lot. Teresa says she like the person she is now. She is more independent.
Andy rolls footage of the show when Joe was going off to prison. Teresa sobs through the whole thing. Like full on crying. But the white blob is still plastered on. Teresa says the girls have all had to become more independent. Probably because she is always off on some trip with her boy toy. She doesn’t mention that part. Andy gets to that next.
Teresa Still Blames Joe Giudice For Her Prison Sentence
When they roll a clip of the girls and Teresa over the years that Joe was locked up. Joe cries through the whole thing. Joe is upset that he missed his daughter’s graduation and move to college. Again, he says no names and stresses “my daughter.” Joe says they talk all the time. Joe says when Teresa was in prison it was really hard. He was drinking a lot. He could not stand going to visit her. Joe would lose it because she didn’t deserve to be in prison.
Andy asks Teresa if she blames him for her time away. She says there is no one else to blame, so yes, she does blame him. It never occurs to this one to take responsibility for her own part in the situation. Teresa says she got very angry after her mom died. She lost almost a year’s worth of time with her mother.
At the thirty minute mark, My DVR recording ended. I’m going to have to watch the second half at 10:30 pm on the rerun. I’ll be back….
Part Two Of Teresa and Joe Giudice Unlocked
I’m back! Teresa says that Joe Giudice is not the jealous type. Andy asks if Teresa and Joe have talked about their future together. There is a weird edit as if they cut out the answer. Perhaps for drama on the show with the Italy footage? Joe says if they stay together, they stay together. If they don’t they don’t. That’s a conversation they need to have. I think Joe wants to stay with Teresa but she has clearly moved on. Will the trip to Italy rekindle their relationship?
Andy asks Joe how he is feeling about her photos with the boytoy. Teresa says she is just friends with the guy. They were holding hands because he was helping her to her car because her feet were hurting. She is the worst liar in the world. They have both cheated while the other was doing time. If I were Joe, I’d be more worried about the creepy lawyer guy. Andy asks if this was the guy she met who was with her on the beach in Miami. She said yes. And that if she was trying to hide, she would not be out in public with him.
About That BoyToy…
The fact that Teresa was on the beach with her boytoy was news to Joe Giudice. Andy made public statements on WWHL saying that he hoped Teresa was “getting it” from the kid. Joe seems irritated and then Teresa said that she goes everywhere with the guy…and his friends. Teresa said that Joe was photographed with women while she was prison. Joe says “that’s what made it okay for you.” Joe says he was faithful to Teresa. He doesn’t not think that Teresa was faithful to him.
Joe is not the only one who feels this way. It seems all of her cast mates seem to know she was unfaithful as well. Teresa doesn’t feel like Joe was faithful to her. She is right. They are both liars and cheaters. Teresa is stammering around about nothing despite not having been asked a question. She says she loves Joe “as a person.” They are two different people now. She is clearly not planning to stay married. I do think Teresa really is afraid to be with him now. She’s afraid she is going to have feeling for him again.
I Felt Nothing
Teresa says that she felt nothing when she went to visit Joe in prison. I wonder if we could get Teresa to fill out a Psychopathy Scale. Andy could just ask her the questions on a reunion. She wouldn’t know what they were. Teresa says she never wanted to kiss him in prison because she just didn’t like the whole environment. Teresa acts like she visited regularly. She did not. Teresa even said at some point that she doesn’t visit because it’s gross. After her mom died, she was really angry and didn’t visit.
Suddenly, Teresa is saying she is happy that Joe is out. She starts crying. I think she has had a lot of tequila. Andy says “those don’t seem like happy tears.” Her response was confusion. Then she tries to convince Andy she is happy. She says that the last seven months of Joe being in ICE custody was horrible because Joe was just so nasty on the phone. So basically, she’s glad it is over FOR HER.
Joe Giudice Give Teresa Dating Tips
Andy asks if the girls know that Teresa might be divorcing Joe. Teresa says that they do know. She thinks they get it, but hope it doesn’t happen. Teresa says she can’t see a long distance marriage working. She doesn’t seem to even consider moving to Italy. Teresa says that Joe would have someone in Italy and have her in the US and she doesn’t want to live that life. Joe says if he wanted to get with someone in Italy he could have already done that. He probably already has.
Andy asks Joe if he is still in love with Teresa. He says yes. I believe that. Andy says that the way Teresa is speaking about the relationship as if it is already over. She says that is she feels now. She says Gia told her when she goes to Italy to seem him those feelings will come back. Joe says he doesn’t want Teresa and the kids to move to Italy with him. Their lives are in Italy. I disagree. Anytime kids have an opportunity to live in another country they should take it.
Andy asks an interesting question. If they divorce will Teresa have to sell the house?It sounds like she will. Joe says the next guy needs to have a lot of money. She needs to date men with money not these broke little kids.
Let Me Tell You Something!
Andy plays the clip of Caroline Manzo predicting that Joe Giudice would go to jail and that Teresa would divorce him and write a book. All of that seems to be happening now. The video enrages Teresa. Teresa says that Caroline is just so sad. She has led that “crooked life.” ROFLMAO. Teresa says she has never led “that crooked life.” Sweetie, you been to federal prison and so has your husband. Caroline has never been arrested for anything. You can’t hold Caroline accountable for a few skeletons on her family tree. Do you want your daughter to accused of living “that crooked life” because you did?
Teresa thinks Caroline Manzo ratted her out to the Feds. Really? Does she still not understand that this all began with a bankruptcy where they failed to disclose all of their assets? How the hell is Caroline Manzo responsible for your lies? Joe says he knows who went to the feds and it wasn’t Caroline.
Regrets? Joe’s Had A Few…
Andy asks them if they regret doing the show. Teresa of course does not. Joe wishes he never would have done the damn show. He had a great life before the show. Then Joe says that the Giudices coming on the show was the best thing to happen to Andy. No one even knew what “this housewives thing” was until they came on. Andy says that there was Orange County and New York before Jersey. And the best thing that ever happened to him was the birth of his son. Oh my, Andy is a bit heated with his favorite felon. Joe responds “And the birth of the New Jersey housewives and having us in your life.
Teresa ends the show by completely botching a Sophia Loren quote. “If you haven’t cried, your eyes can’t be beautiful.” Teresa says she has the most beautifulest eyes. Le sigh.
RHONJ Premieres November 6th. Wait, that is the same night as Atlanta? That’s going to be a long night of recapping. Can’t we spread this out? Check out the trailer below.
The fact that these two love Trump and don’t want to disturb his immigration policies basically says it all. There is no hope for these idiots
Typical entitled idiots. The laws dont apply to them, they are better than everyone else. They make me sick, neither Joe or Theresa has ever completed an honest day of work a day in their life. Karma is working its magic now….
No kidding, they are everything that is wrong with America. Somehow Joe comes off better than Theresa, maybe its because he doesn’t try to pretend hes not a thug. He’s just a thug that “works his behind off”, I guess that kind is better than other illegal aliens. As if working on the farm fields isn’t hard.
Most illegals, didn’t say all, work, work at any job they can get for less pay bc of their illegal status. Aliens? Like the green men?
@Calipatti, not sure what your point is about immigrants and the work they do? I think we agree they work hard. Little green men, haha, you’re right I probably should have used a different word.
They work VERY hard and for much less than Joe would be willing to work for. These guys are on roofs of buildings in 98 degree Florida heat. Joe doesn’t think he belongs in “that” group of people and continues to support the Mango Mussolini even though he was in one of those hell holes. Joe and Teresa are meant for each other. One dumber than the other and with the same “values”. They are disgusting.
I couldn’t believe Teresa blamed Joe and Caroline Manzo for her ending up in prison. To top it off the video they showed of Caroline talking about Teresa was all positive, saying the time may come when one of them goes away and Teresa has to pick herself up and raise her children, she can do it. Teresa is too uneducated to understand Caroline was encouraging her. Teresa got caught because she filed for bankruptcy. That has nothing to do with Caroline Manzo.
Prison hasn’t changed her 1 bit. She still has no remorse for what she did. Blaming everyone else for your problems is a narcissist. Joe has been cheating on her since season 1. And if someone is walking me to my car because my feet hurt – I would take my shoes off or at least walk like your shoes hurt your feet – she walked like she was fine. This just reinforced my intense dislike for her
she can’t feel remorse for problems created by Joe, she was used by him. That’s how she sees herself.
Carline has nothing to do with her problems. Joe and Teresa left a paper trail long enough for several agency’s to notice. Their first season with Joe giving Teresa so much cash to spend AND saying we only spend cash had my family saying, cash jobs, no taxes someone’s going to jail. First season!
TT: thanks much for this! I wanted to watched 90 Day Fiancee and was irritated the shows are on opposite each other! I will be back to check in on the final half. Much praise, but I knew if anyone had the deets it would be you.
Very good summary of the interview. I was shocked that Teresa blames Joe for “being away from her family” while in prison. Didn’t she lie and say she was a real estate broker and provide false W2 forms for a job she never held so they could take out loans? I was even more shocked when she said Caroline Manzo might have been the one who turned her in to the Feds, meanwhile she’s declaring bankruptcy yet displaying her home, lavish lifestyle, cars, and vacations on TV for all to see. Plus she was caught not declaring her $100,000 salary from Bravo on her bankruptcy form.
And flashing all that money while furnishing her home.
Pretty dam impressed how fast you banged this out. You didn’t miss a beat! Teresa was not suppose to get jail time. The day of sentencing the Judge told Teresa she felt that she was still being duplicitous, that’s where the shock came from. T’s anger is very misplaced. They both earned what they got, unlike the people on the Titanic. Poor Gia, having to insist on boundaries at such a young age. Joe was buzzed & Teresa was medicated & I am both. We all got through it 😂 Time to prepare for the next chapter – the reunification. I’m sure it will be heart wrenching because of the children.
God, those two are a mess! Thought I was watching Godfather for a second when Teresa asked if Caroline Manzo was a rat. And then I just about died when they replayed the clip of Caroline Manzo calling exactly what happened so many years ago. And am I the only one who thinks Teresa was so beautiful when the show started but all the plastic surgery and fillers just really doesn’t look that good now. Does she really need all that stuff? I guess it kind of crept up on me and I didn’t notice it until they were showing clips of her from season 1.
No , I thought Teresa was pretty too.
I feel bad for the girls.
Why, I post very little
I never thought she was pretty with that 1/4 inch forehead. She’s too over the top with make-up, hair, etc. and her whole dynamic makes her uglier.
Her girls seem okay despite being raised by her. Gia has some sense telling her mom to stop being so open with her. It’s her dad and mom. She doesn’t need her mom saying “see how he talks to me”.
Tre never was beautiful inside. She was always an entitled beast. Blames everyone else for her problems. I cannot call anyone with a Neanderthal hairline beautiful. And DUMB? Only Porsha and Tamra Judge rival her dumbness. When she said Melissa was only a Gorga by injection … what kind of Gorga does she think her sainted mother was then?
This ☝🏼!!!! Yessssss!
Teresa did NOT need so much work done. She is in her forties now and looks older b’c of it. All that work that she has done has completely changed her face.
I thought she was pretty in S1, but the table flip never impressed me. Anyone can flip a table, it’s not that hard to do. But most of us would never do something like that, in a restaurant or at home, actually nowhere is a good time to flip a damn table!
Unless you are an unhinged asshole.
Well said Laila, Teresa is nothing special she just thinks she is special, hell, she thinks she is the reason the HW franchise is as successful as it has become. My question has always been this “will she ever open her pak-a-book and give Andy back his balls”? No doubt with some of her stupid answers to Andys questions he never really puts her back against the wall and makes her answer his “hard hitting questions” yea right. I guess being in a relationship with Anderson Cooper has not done anything for Andy’s Journalism talents!
I was bored after 20 minutes. They are both just stupid.
I said exactly the same thing to my other half and walked into the kitchen to continue washing dishes. That’s how stupid it was, I’d rather wash dishes.
Yes! I wanted to watch this all day but then after 20 minutes I thought, um, this sucks. I should clean my kitchen and wash the dishes in the sink. That is how bad it was. Blah.
Andy is the worst interviewer EVER. He kept asking follow-up questions when he knows damn well Tre doesn’t have the intellectual ability to answer. I was disappointed. I thought Andy would do better.
I thought that was the best interview he had ever done. I loved when he asked Teresa if that was the guy he saw on the beach with her. I thought his questions were good andd he asked everything I wanted to know. Perhaps it was the absence of men in velcro speedos getting pelted with sticky ping pong balls that made me over estimate the quality of the interview.
Omg, I just peed myself laughing, TT!
Exactly why he did such a good job, you’re right!
Atlanta starts on Sunday and NJ on Wednesday so you don’t have to recap both on the same night.
She was correct. NJ has an annual Teachers’ Convention in Atlantic City in the first week of November every year.
That’s crazy pants. They shut down school for a Union convention? Everyone has to go? Who pays for that?
Few teachers here ever go… at least to the actual conference. For decades these were the days the teachers looked forward to, because we got to go from our tiny town to a large city across the state where there were great restaurants and shopping. We were so excited to pick our hotel roommates and what we were going to do for 3 days. Everyone had to prove they were there, so everyone just went to the Convention as soon as it opened up the first morning, dropped our union cards in the attendance box, grab all the freebies then we’d start a fabulous time of shopping, movies, and dining. It was a fantastic getaway. Keep in mind these were the days before there was such a thing as girls trips. After quite a few years most school boards caught on that teachers weren’t interested in attending the actual conference so then they gave us the option of allowing us to work in our classrooms those days, which was the option all of us chose because it was like heaven to get paid for for 2 days of catching up on our work with no kids. Then the school boards found out that a lot of teachers weren’t even doing that and were hiding out at home or snuck in a vacation so they decided not to pay teachers at all for those convention days and we were free to do what we wanted. They couldn’t make us have school with students those days because it’s state law that there is no school for convention for the few people that still wanted to attend.
Were you all forced to join NEA? Because this seems all sorts of wrong to me. I remember watching Chris Christie talking a a big teacher thing years ago. I attended and at times presented at the college level conventions when I was teaching. The South Carolina college conventions were GIANT DRUNKFESTS with gambling casinos offshore and crab boils. Obviously I loved it.
I’m wondering if you were required to pay NEA dues. When I taught at HBCUs I had NAACP dues automatically taken from my paycheck. Which was weird because they were paying my salary.
The last 20 years we weren’t forced to join the union ($600.00 a year!) but come negotiating time, the few of us who refused to join were given a snotty letter informing us that we were to pay $100.00 each to the union because they technically were negotiating for everyone. Good luck with that. Non of us holdouts paid. Our Union was WORTHLESS in negotiating better contracts PLUS I had over 300 sick days taken from me and offered up by the as a sacrifice to the school board. Yes, I’m bitter.
Not to mention they try to FORCE you to contribute and your money goes to THEIR political party which may not be yours. I paid for my voluntary teacher union, it wasn’t a whole lot but I wasn’t making a whole lot and it was to support the democratic party. I’m an Independent. I USED to lean Republican. Since the last election, that is out the window and I need to vote for every blue candidate at the national level for obvious reasons. But why are teachers or other unionized people expected to support one party or another. And why was it assumed I wanted to support the NAACP which is also ALLEGEDLY stealing from HBCUs?
Yes, I remember those nice little mini-vacations from School every year!
Do colleges have this too? Gia is going to miss a week or so at wherever she goes?
The conference is only Monday and Tuesday. Teresa said it was going to be a short trip and they were only going for a couple of days. I feel like they will fly our Friday night and maybe fly back Wednesday. That way the miss one day of school. I feel like Milania may refuse to go home with Teresa and want to stay longer.
It’s actually thursday and friday the teachers convention, then the following week in ac is the board of ed convention and them the following week is the njlm I go to this one all 565 municipalities in nj go to this one
NJ Public Schools generally all close the first Thursday through either Sunday or Monday for this convention. I know I have to be there Friday as a vendor.
Still no sense of personal responsibility. Teresa claims Caroline is a rat who lived a crooked life. Look at who went to jail.
I thought I was the only one thinking that. I MO, I feel like both weren’t taking any accountability.
Yep, and Teresa wonders how the Feds got involved…well, duh, she filed bankruptcy which is governed by federal law so of course the Feds were involved plus she didn’t pay millions in taxes. Instead she blames the Manzo’s. She’s soooo delusional.
NJ is a weird place. Students are actually off because teachers go to a convention in Atlantic City in early November. So that part is surprising, but accurate—no conferences. A convention.
My kids conferences are mon, Tues and wednesday then the teachers go to ac for thurs and friday
Can’t these people ever say no to a damn paycheck? Seriously. You are on a reality show. You have paid appearances and book deals and wine of the month clubs. For Christ’s sake, can’t you just have a freaking conversation in private and not get paid for it. Their poor daughters. Gia has more sense than both of them, probably.
I think Joe came off pretty well. He said they could make it work if they wanted to, told Teresa it wasn’t Caroline who reported them to feds, seemed pretty hurt and admitted he never thought she’d go to prison.
I think joe & Tre think it was Jaqueline or Kathy who turned them in. Tre is very stupid, but then again, I’m working my but off for nothing & she has everything. For all that $ they stole, I would do 11 months in the fed pen,’a low class spa’! Lol
I thought at this point it was public knowledge that Joe’s business partner, who also filed a lawsuit against him, turned him into the Feds.
It was his partner not Kathy Wakilie or Jaqueline.
Agreed. Joe came off better than she did and you can tell that they are done with their marriage This trip to Italy is for a paycheck.
Why… I don’t get it
I’m sick and you’re a fucking bitch!!
Go to hell
Let me in now??!!!
Thanks
You sound like you’re crazy if you don’t want to be here go
Wow
Shut up
TT, i think the white shimmering glob in the corner of her eyes was MAC Whisper of Guilt or something similar. It doesn’t cry off… its a high octane shimmer to highlight. Not to be used like that. Poor thing, she needs a better make up artist.
Also, I LOVED reading everyone’s comments yesterday. What a bunch of great people on here. Seriously, thanks for letting us comment like that….
I agree with you. Yesterday’s open forum was great fun. I do enjoy all the recaps and witty snark, yet have found myself feeling welcome to share. That is rare for me. Thanks to all for being open and welcoming! I have new bras coming and started watching The DNA of Murder with Paul Holes on Oxygen today while doing laundry. Great recommendation.
Is ZenTrying having an aneurysm ? What I miss?
No, just losing my mind…
Carry on🙃
It was amusing and entertaining to try and figure you out tonight Zen. Don’t lose your mind though, even if you’re funny doing it.
No clue.
Gigi, “MAC whisper of guilt” shimmer eye glob. I’m dying!
I started thinking that Gigi should write makeup recaps. Hilarious. I mean, we have seen some frightening looks over the years.
🤣🤣 I know! I was like wtf!? Maybe she got pages she was responding on switched….otherwise, aneurysm might explain it!
If Joe was treated that poorly in an ICE facility, knowing that the media was closely following his story, one can only imagine how the “average Joes” in ICE facilities are treated. But keep supporting Trump 👀
No shit!!!
Like the OJ trial. When they fuck up that bad under a media microscope what does that say for the rest of us?
Before you lambaste me I love TT.
My apologies
Take a Xanax! 🤣
Or better yet, have a Snickers. Who knew chocolate can stop you from embracing your inner Joe Pesci.
Thank you for the recap so I don’t have to watch it and give them any more ratings.
These two are just so dumb.
I despise Teresa so I could not stomach watching this shit show. However, I was ready for the recap! Sounds like Teresa is as delusional and stupid as ever. I fully believe that they are different people than they were before this all started. Staying married through all of that would have required massive effort on both of their parts. He could only do so much. For her it was out of sight, out of mind.
He is right about them being Andy’s favorite. Yes, there was OC and NY but NJ was the one that got the ball rolling for all the other cities. NJ was the epic “dinner table” finale. He LOVED it all and ate it up. None of this would have happened had they not flaunted their wealth on tv. So surely Joe regrets doing the show.
I hate Teresa. I won’t watch RHONJ. I could not bring myself to watch this. But I was interested in what Joe had to say. We have only gotten her side of everything for the last 4 years.
Joe took all the blame for their crimes, Teresa took absolutely none. Joe said he wants to work it out with her and said he’s still in love with her. Teresa doesn’t want to be back with him, but said she will see when she visits him.
Joe made Teresa seem like a saint who just signed ONE signature. Maybe because she’s the one bringing the paycheck in.
I think they both know the marriage is over and planned this interview together to make Teresa sound just wonderful. You know, the poor wife who didn’t know all the illegal shit that was going down. I don’t believe it.
Joe looks good and healthy. He looked better than the pictures online. It looks like him, but thinner.
Teresa also tried to blame Caroline b’c she predicted the whole thing.. from prison, a book about it and divorce. Caroline probably knew they were being investigated, so that is why she most likely said that. Joe said he knew who turned on them and it wasn’t Caroline.
Joe said he felt absolutely distraught when Teresa was ‘away’. Teresa didn’t seem to care that he was.
Oh, the best part was at the end when Joe said that RHONJ was the best day of Andy’s life. He implied that Jersey was the first and these two on the show were the best thing to happen to reality TV. Andy said there was OC and NY before them and the best day of his life was when his son was born.
Oops I posted this before reading your second recap on this. Carry on. lol
I remember that reuniion where Caroline said the things about Tre moving on with the girls and writing a book for them. She was 100% on the money. It blows my mind that Tre would blame Caroline (or Jacqueline as she’s done in the past) for their predicament with the government! It’s pretty ballsy. What’s even crazier is that some people believe it. If you create a diversion some people are so easily led. Al’s Manzo’s business may have started in a sketchy way when but it’s been around, in a crowded playing field, so long because he works his ass off and he’s hardly been home in 30 years. They got their money from hard work which is anathema to Joe Guidice.
Everything is viewed through a prism as to how it affects Teresa first and primarily. It’s Tre’s world and we just live in it.
Sliceo’pie
Her entitlement annoys me the most. When she received an expensive car when she got out of jail, Andy asked her at the reunion why did she have to have such an expensive car. She said something like..”Would you drive a Honda Andy?” I don’t remember what cars they were, but it pissed me off
It was a Lexus I remember it being reported that it was worth $90.000 at the time..
I am pretty sure Theresa said Ford not Honda. I remember because I drive a Ford. Love my little car.
All this interview did was validate my disdain for Teresa. She is unintelligent and is unable to take accountability for anything. I was never a fan of Joe but somehow I felt some empathy for him during this interview, but not Teresa.
That marriage is already over but hopefully for their girls’ sake they can keep it somewhat amicable (though it doesn’t look like it from the season trailer).
Just throwing this out there…I would not be surprised if it came out that Teresa and that sleazy lawyer of hers had something going on this entire time. I understand the need to have a lawyer to advise her but he doesn’t leave her side.
Yes, that marriage is definitely over! You could tell they were holding back from saying negative things about each other. At least holding back long enough to get a free family trip and paycheck from Bravo for a reunion in Italy!
Do you think Teresa and the girls will be staying in the grandmother’s small house?
Hell no!
Do you think Teresa will be shopping at Versace and all the fabulous shops again? Absolutely!
Marion Jones, former Olympian who served time in prison used to have an attorney follow her around too. He was with her for interviews for her books and media. He would even sit in the stands when she played women’s professional basketball ball and WNBA job pays next to nothing. She had a husband and young children at the time and here is the lawyer, everywhere she went.
Just speculation, pure speculation but the common guess was there were additional bad acts that she had not been prosecuted for. It was just another guess that the lawyer was around to keep her from saying anything that she shouldn’t. He didn’t want her to go back to jail and if there was any opportunity to monetize her situation of course he was there for that.
So perhaps he is around to make sure she doesn’t rat her own self out and be in on a portion any money she makes.
The first two paragraphs were all about Marion Jones and her trailing lawyer. I just was trying to say maybe Teresa’s lawyer is doing the same thing Marion’s attorney attempted to do for her.
When was this filmed? I think Bravo talked about only a few ago. Joe looks gross. Too skinny IMO. Tersea’s hair looks great. Gia, or any the girls, do not need to be filmed with Joe reunited in Italy. It is not worth any amount of money. That is a personal, private family event.
Teresa will never turn down a paycheck
Going through peri menopause and it’s a fucking great time. My husband came home and because he digs me he agreed to watch this dumpster fire with me. I’ll tell you what, we laughed so hard at the stupid salad. My day got better. And now I feel a bit awful for laughing at the inarticulate ignorant duo. Their kids deserve better
Smits, hey one typo you are smuts, I amuse myself. You will be better soon, promise be a distant memory except the weight gain and being hot that lasts forever. You will perfect.
Some nights when I am sober, I feel like some of the comments make even less sense. Tonight is one of those nights. Sobriety is way over rated.
Giudice paper trail and lack of paper work was huge.
First season Joe handing cash to Tre saying we pay in cash shouted unreported income. Then non payment to so many people, one person goes to file a lien on Joe/Teresa’s business learns there is no legal business, been working w/o bonds which are registered with the State or Feds. With all of us on computer data bases, the idea these two could defraud the government is idiotic. There were so many ways they left themselves open.
Most people know if you turn a person or company in for let’s say taxes, you better have all your taxes in order. You will be looked at also.
Again, TT, much thanks for your insightful review. I thought Joe got more real than he has ever been in the last 5 minutes about himself and BRAVO, And Theresa descended into evil.
The week has just started and I guarantee nothing will be as hilarious to me as Teresa saying Caroline lives “that crooked life”. I literally laughed so hard I had tears. I’m laughing as I type those words.
No pills, nice glass of bourbon, scotch or whisky, add a good sized filtered water ice cube, sit down, rest your head back, swirl glass and sip slowly. Will cure all pains.
SO WHO CALLED THE FEDS???
I don’t think anyone had to call the Feds. They were rich as heck and declared bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court caught them when they evaluated their assets. They lived in a mansion, drove band new cars, and worked on TV. The bankruptcy court ordered them to auction off their furniture in order to pay their debtors. Teresa and Joe then withdrew their bankruptcy petition. The court took a closer look at what was going on and discovered unreported income, fake W2 filings, fake jobs listed on forms, failure to pay taxes for 4 years, plus more.
Obviously that crooked rat Caroline Manzo. Sorry, that is still cracking me up.
Joe’s former business partner that sued him also.
Yeah Joe made mention that he knew who called the feds, and it wasn’t Caroline. So it was his former biz partner?
Actually TT it is “teachers convention”. every year in NJ the kids have a 4 day wknd in early November where the NJEA has their convention in Atlantic City. Combined with Election Day and Veterans Day makes for a great way to get a weeks vaca with the kids only missing maybe 1-2 days of school. Go to any Caribbean resort in early Nov—will be 1/2 filled with Jersey ppl. Always. Did it for many years when my kids were younger.
Or Disney.
Disney fans in the know actually call it Jersey Week.
How’s dad is buried on their property, right next to the house. Joe won’t let her sell their house.
Wow, that really doesn’t seem like a good idea. I didn’t know you could do that! I didn’t want to even bury my animals and I live 20 minutes from Tre. That;s huge when you go to sell! By the way folks, ignore the grave to the left of the pool.
I do a lot of genealogy research. Knowing where ancestors are buried helps with validating your search. The website Find-a-grave is one of the main sources for burials. Find-a-grave lists Francesco “Frank” Guidice being buried at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery in Totowa (Passaic Co.), New Jersey. Theresa and Joe’s house is also in the Totowa area and is located about 11 miles from the cemetery. I’m guessing it’s just a memorial for Joe’s Dad at their house.
I don’t know whether to breakdown and watch this shit show or not. I feel like I will just want to put my 3 lb. sledgehammer through the screen if I try to watch it…
Yes, it is a memorial that looks just like a grave. But the body isn’t there.
That’s weird.
That website “find a grave” is a scam. It has huge inaccuracies. I read them on my family and wanted to correct the info as did many other living family members. When each of us tried to contact them to clarify the inaccuracies and provide the correct information, they told us each individually and separate from each other’s requests that they own the material they publish on the website and for a ginormous fee, they would sell it to us so that we could put whatever corrections we wanted. Needless to say, our dead family’s graves still have a ton of complete bullshit listed on their site.
Sometimes, strangers will buy a grave from that site of someone who is in an historical cemetery or of someone of somewhat notable lineage and double the price (that was case with one of my grandparents)
It’s a pretty lowlife scam if you ask me. Fucking with legacies of peoples dead loved ones in order to make a profit. SMDH
So, if you’re really into genealogy, better double and triple check your info rather than relying on that POS site to give you credible information.
@IJC: Wow. I have never had any trouble with the site and even went through the very easy process of asking an individual if I could take over a relative’s page. I asked and they switched it over to me. The reason that individual had my relative’s grave was because they had made pages for everyone at the cemetery. (Did you try contacting the person running your relative’s page or did you contact the website to intervene?) My experience with the site has also allowed me to make up my own pages for relatives I could not find. I have also found multiple pages for some people so I don’t know why you can’t make up corrected pages for your relatives. I also don’t just use Find-a-grave for verification. There are multiple genealogy sites too numerous to mention here. I’ve actually never run into any wrong information on Find-a-grave. I am sorry your experience has been so terrible.
Well I’m glad someone has had a decent experience with them. I own the remaining plots in the historical cemetery and paid for perpetual care for all of the graves on that family plot. The government now is the presiding power for the cemetery since it was deemed a historical site. And as all govt agencies, got nowhere. It’s frustrating and disheartening. I was originally going to be buried there but after that experience we all decided that we rather be cremated than have inaccurate crap on the internet. One of the living actually owns several funeral homes and crematoriums in the state and couldn’t even get anything changed without paying the person who bought the Find-a-Grave a fortune. Fortunately, we have all our genealogy documented in the family and some in the library of congress. Plus everyone is some version of the deceased’s namesake and has access to the documents. But anyone (even perhaps far removed lost relative) who were to search online will read the bullshit version.
We pick our battles and I chose not to fight this one because, too much energy and money.
Sad but doubtful there will be large amount of people looking at it. Sigh :/
You don’t want to be buried in a historically significant, family cemetery because of internet inaccuracies?
That makes zero sense. Is there another reason?
Lol. I guess that was worded poorly. In short, yes there are other reasons.
In NJ there is Teachers Convention every October. The teachers go to Atlantic City for 3 days to attend meetings. For once, Teresa was correct.
Haven’t had the chance to read all comments yet, but I believe that Juicy Joe’s Dad is NOT buried on the home’s property. I believe it is a memorial, not a grave. Now why I bothered to procrastinate about going to work to comment. Anyone know if when we watch these housewives shows if the clothes and jewelry are really theirs, or just loaners? I lean toward loaners.
Glad I turned it off after 10 minutes. Creepy.
I can’t believe all of you who keep saying this. I was GLUED TO EVER SECOND. Then again, mental illness intrigues me. All I could think about what the psychopathy scale every time Teresa spoke. “I felt nothing” gave me chills. It was like watching an interview with Hannibal Lector or something.
OMG! Theresa IS actually EXACTLY like a dumbass Hannibal Lector! You nailed it, TT!
So was I.
Does anyone else think that Teresa is starting to look like Danielle Staub? They must have the same plastic surgeon and it is not a good look for either of them.
👆🏻What she said!
Just wondering…did Melania get a nose job. She looks completely different. If she did that’s emotional child abuse in my opinion…TT do you have any inside tea about that?
True story and the people are dead: I was close with a good friend’s family after I moved to their small town. This had happened before I knew them. Brother was in a pricey private school. His parents invited his best friend and family to dinner. Mom gave a private tour of their magnificent house. I loved Mom but she was one of those — as some call them “classic one-upper Italians.” She described each piece of art and furniture “this chandelier was handmade in Venezia” etc. The friend’s dad paid VERY CLOSE attention. He worked for IRS. Things didn’t add up with tax returns. Dad went to jail; mom did not. Agent was PISSED that mom didn’t go to jail too. It was never made clear to them if the whole schoolchum, private school etc. was a sting or a coincidence. My feeling was they were low on some target totem pole, but dad didn’t rat. My friend’s dad owned a vending machine company. Classic.
Actually there is a teachers convention in New Jersey…. so there. November 7th and 8th..
I’m from NJ and actually the public schools here do have off two days next week for the annual teacher convention. It is put on by the teacher’s union and is two days in Atlantic City. I’ve been a few times as an exhibitor for various jobs I have had and let me tell you the educators really party after hours. It happens every year and lots of folks do plan vacations and trips around it. For once she was correct! 😉 I agree with you totally about her makeup here.
I love correcting teresa as much as the next person – but she’s right about teacher conventions – in NJ every November we’re off for 2 days for the NJEA conventions in Atlantic City.
Theresa sent herself to prison. She went on a national television show & bought $120,000 worth of furniture IN CASH. That she just pulled out of her purse like it was the most normal thing in the world.
No one who’s operating legally carries around that much cash. An IRS employee was probably chilling at home watching Bravo, picked their jaw up off of the floor & then started a process the next day at work.
Seriously, over the holidays last year, we had a good sized cash deposit for my business at the bank. It was around $8,000 (a lot for us). The teller couldn’t even put it in the computer without a manager, a form & my social security number. Over $100,000 in cash is not normal.
Actually, she didn’t pay $120K in cash but put the deposit for the furniture down in cash.
That’s a fallacy that keeps popping up every couple of years.
Well, it’s just silly for Teresa Giudice to point her finger at Caroline Manzo, when EVERYONE knows it was Nostradamus who gave her and Joe up to the Feds.
Ohhhhh… I thought Nostradamus had predicted it. But that was Caroline Manzo. He was just the rat. Is Nostradamus living that crooked life too?
My feeling is that Joe thinks he’s still in with a shot at getting back to America if he’s still married to a US citizen. She is realistically his only way back in right now, as slim as that chance is. I think she is waiting until her father dies to go ahead and divorce him, because she knows it would break his heart.
Wow. Ok. I think you just summed it right up.
Many people on this tread made excellent points.
It was uncomfortable the whole time and Teresa definitely has checked out while Joe still pretends there’s a chance. I read Tamara’s recap before watching so I noticed every time he said “my wife” and “my kids” etc. but there was one time he called her “Tre” and I think I jumped along with her on the screen. She seems afraid of him or falling back to their way of life. Watching the flashback seemed surreal when she was so into him but that’s not the case any more.
1) The tension between Joe and Theresa was uncomfortable to watch.
2) Theresa crying: she had an emotional break that let her talking points and fillers show right through.
3) Theresa is terrified of Joe; Joe doesn’t have must to loose and Theresa does.
That was heavy.
Being separated from your children is nothing to loose? Sacrificial lambs as a vain life lead to a fractured reflection in an unbroken hand mirror.
I loved every second even though it was uncomfortable watching them pretend like there’s still a chance they won’t get divorced LOL Will she have to pay him alimony!?? How F**ked up would that be! How the hell does a divorce like this even work if Joe isn’t considered a citizen. Should be interesting! Another book!
I thought maybe Joe and Teresa might of planned to make Teresa look good. But I changed my mind. These were all raw and mostly honest emotions coming from Joe. I think he owned up to his mistakes, but Teresa didn’t of course. I like Joe better. He was also kinda funny saying Teresa needs a rich boyfriend, not the boy she is hanging out with. He said she needs a lot of money and the Bravo check isn’t enough.
But, then I remember the local news showing Joe being a slumlord, I get mad again. His tenants were freezing. He bought a generator there and almost used it INSIDE. He could of hurt them, not to mention while Teresa and her family are all home, warm and cozy, his tenants were freezing.
I have to admit. I thought the interview was very good, it was like old school reality TV that was interesting. I thought it was very telling. I hate myself a bit b’c I know they did a lot of wrong to people. I believe Joe payed the price and lost everything. Teresa, not so much, she didn’t lose anything, which makes me mad. And she is still blaming others!.. Joe, Caroline, everyone except herself! I’m getting mad again. lol
New Jersey residents, I have a question…
The last time I went to NJ, I kept getting lost because I wasn’t allowed to make left turns. This was way back in the 90’s. I found it so odd and confusing. I couldn’t get to where I needed to go and was so aggravated.
Does your state still have this law? Is it the whole state? And does it annoy y’all?
I mean I know it’s not in neighborhoods, but do you have to make a zillion left turns just to go to a supermarket?
Ah, the infamous jug-handle turn. I hate driving in NJ.
Actually Teresa was right it is a convention. in NJ its called NJEA where teachers around the state gather for continued learning
I just watched it and have a few thoughts.
Joe sounded contrite, composed, and smart.
Teresa still has her head in the sand but I can understand that her anger comes from losing that time with her mother. She did make a good point that if she stays with Joe, he’ll also have a mistress in Italy and she doesn’t want to compete with that.
I do not think that Teresa only signed one document.
I don’t think Joe was ever in love with Teresa but dated and married her because of parental pressure. I think he wants out of the marriage as much as she does. Or maybe she doesn’t.
I wonder how much she’s paying him to sit there and keep his mouth shut during this interview?? Someone needs to get a body language expert to cover this!!