So as I am doing setups for this week’s RHOC recap, I see in the episode description “Kelly and Brauwnyn watch Emily rehearse her anniversary dance number.” I was kind of excited for this episode before I read that. None of the previews included this. I like Emily and that description just makes me worried for her. People are very hateful toward her on social media and she just seem like a sweet person in a sea of vipers.
Oh Lord. We start with the train. The rumor they are discussing is that eight guys pulled a train on Kelly. Apparently, they all heard it, and Tamra was the dumbass to blurt it out. Last week, a lot of y’all didn’t know what was meant by “the train.” I regret to inform you that “eight guys pulled a train on her” GENERALLY means that eight guys raped her. It means that if this is true she was probably so fucked up she didn’t know what she was doing and probably doesn’t remember any of it.
A New Low For The Misogyny Channel
I am SICKENED that this is being aired by Bravo. But nothing the misogyny channel does surprises me. However, this is a new low. And I had no idea how fucking low Bravo could go. I shall type the rest of this recap through tears like the triggered snowflake that I am. Because this storyline is unacceptable in every way.
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I hope Kelly Dodd sues Bravo for everything they fucking have. And I get now why Kelly is furious with Tamra Judge. She should be fired. This whole fucking franchise needs to end. Sorry. But this is just not right. How much longer are we going to watch this fucking shit? And NO, Tamra. That is not what pulling a train is. Pulling a train is RAPE you stupid fucking cunt.
Tamra Judge Should Be Fired
Shannon and Gina both say that the discussion they had in the car on their way home about “the train” must never be brought up again. The reiterate in their confessionals it should never be mention. Tamra Judge gives a disgusting confessional that make me want to throw up. Even Vicki freaked out when she brought it up. Braunwyn wants to let Kelly know what piece of shit Tamra said.
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Twelve hours later Shannon and Tamra prepare to go for a walk. Frankly, I think everyone on the show should have refuse to film with Tamra after that. Shannon thinks that “last night was so much fun.” On their walk Tamra doesn’t tell Shannon about Gina’s husband’s affair. Why the fuck not? You talk about people’s rape? Oh yeah, you hate Kelly so that makes it okay. Tamra says that she thinks Gina would benefit it Shannon reached out offering friendship.
Braunwyn Is My New Favorite Housewife
Braunwyn has Gina and Kelly over. I still can’t get over Gina’s confessional. If I wasn’t feeling badly enough about the disrespect of women on this channel, Gina seems to have done the whole “I’m not good enough or pretty enough for my husband so I am going to buy a whole new face” thing. Even her voice is more submissive. I’m sorry. I’m just irritated and frankly shocked by this whole episode. Gina is pissed that Braunwyn told Kelly what people are saying. Bitch please.
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If people were saying that about someone in my yoga class I’d hook them in. I haven’t had a yoga class in decades but still. I am getting angrier as the episode goes on and I didn’t pull enough photos for this many words. We are only six minutes in.
Braunwyn told Kelly everything. When I saw this clip and I heard Kelly say, “I haven’t even done a threeway,” I didn’t believe her. But who cares? We are all allowed to do whatever is consensual. Literally no sober sane person consents to a train unless they are porn stars. It’s NEVER consentual in the real world. I’m Team Braunwyn on this situation.
Gina Goes To Therapy
This recap is excruciating. I’m ten words in and already over 700 words. I thought I would spend this scene with Gina’s therapist talking about the weird shit in the (me in real life making a tubular hand gesture… what is the word for those things, it is not a tube) CYLINDERS next to her. There is like a calves bladder? Some sliced kiwi? And a giant crystal. Anyway, it’s weird. Gina is sad her POS husband cheated on her and and been dating the person he cheated with again for the past six months. She will be even sadder soon when he nearly kills her.
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In other news, Emily is going to be part of a Vegas show to impress Shane on their anniversary. She wants to do a fuck you to all the people who body shame her online. My thing is why are these people selling Sexxy hats? Wouldn’t SeXXXy be better? I really should have gone into marketing or advertising.
Emily, my love, I adore you. BUT YOUR HUSBAND IS MORMON! What would make you think this is a good idea? To this day I keep mixing up Gina and Emily’s name. They need to just change names. Please and thank you.
Braunwyn’s Family goes on vacation without her because apparently she is writing a book? Sienna’s four year old is having developmental delays. Damn, this girl is understandably falling apart. I do not think they should put kids issues on national TV.
With Friends Like These…
If that were not enough of a problem Jeff Lewis and his fucking loquaciousness likes to spew anything anyone has ever told him on his radio show. So Shannon told Jeff that she would not be surprised if either Gina or Emily were to be fired of the show. Oh I TOTALLY believe Shannon said that. But Shannon and Jeff are close friends. What fucking betrayal, Jeff! So of course Shannon is denying it. I’m not overly fond of Shannon but if I were in her situation I’d deny it too and say Jeff is just using her for ratings. Which could also be true. Who Knows?
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Emily responded on Twitter that Shannon “may have lost 40 pounds of fat but not 40 pounds of jealousy.” And a hashtag about her frozen fish. LOL YOU GO GIRL. You are dealing with enough shit without Shannon pouring gasoline on the fire. Tamra chastised Emily for it. Suck a dick, Tamra. SUCK EIGHT DICKS. You brought up a RAPE STORY ON SOMEONE. Emily was defending herself.
Rodeo Drive
So the guise is that Shannon planned the Rodeo Drive adventure for Gina because she had never been. And yet she was putting it into the atmosphere that Gina was going to be fired. TAMRA needs to be fired! Gina and Emily talk and Emily is really upset about life. Shannon picks up Gina’s bill. Then Shannon gets snarky about it. It’s all in on Emily from Shannon. STFU. Shannon.
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This recap has gone on too long and I have not even gotten to the final scene with the requisite knock down drag out fight yet. Banjo was worried about me when I cried earlier. Now I am laughing out loud over the ring prices. What on earth is wrong with people? I need to unload some jewelry so as not to be a target when I move overseas. These people are nuts. Do they need all of this shit or could they help others out? Yes, I want to see rich people doing rich people things, but these people seem to be flaunting excess. It’s not fun to watch.
White Privilege
On RHOBH you see filthy rich people going on expensive vacations. I love that. But you also see them giving back. Especially Kyle and Maurico. They are nice humans. These creatures, I am not so sure about.
Everyone knows that Emily is going through something. Yet the all gang up on her. Over Shannon’s comments to Jeff. Well just fuck them all. Emily admits she should have contacted Shannon directly. She apologizes. Shannon says she wants to move on. OMFG.
Tamra says that people should stop gossiping. Then she says THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW EIGHT GUYS ARE BANGING YOU FROM BEHIND. That has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. And I am SOFA KING INFURIATED WITH TAMRA JUDGE at this point that it has taken me two hours to recap this shit. The cavalier way she says “eight guys are banging your from behind” makes me think violent thoughts here. I am old and fat and never get off my couch, but I am sure there are more agile people who feel the same fucking way. HOW DARE SHE?
HOW DARE BRAVO? WHY DO ANY OF US WATCH THIS SHIT? This is WELL BEYOND BROOKS FAKING CANCER IN MY BOOK. And yet Bravocon is sold out BY WOMEN? FUCK ANY OF Y’ALL WHO SHOW UP AT THAT MISOGYNISTIC EVENT!
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Oh Lord, Emily brings up that Gina told her about “the train.” Now all hell is about to break loose. Basically, Kelly is pissed at Tamra and Shannon for not telling her first. I am starting to feel like this is all production bullshit and that make me EVEN MORE DISGUSTED. This Kelly, Tamra. Shannon scene replete with Kelly’s kid calling at the exact right moment is horrific. I’m sorry if y’all think I am blowing this out of proportion. This is just MISOGYNY at it’s finest and it show these women will agree to anything for a paycheck.
This totally explains why when the RHOC got the first few preview episodes, Kelly was DONE with Tamra. Tamra is the one who brought “The Train” up in the first place. She didn’t know until she saw the episode!!!! At the time Kelly thought it was VICKI who said it. Braunwyn should be Kelly’s new friend. Tamra is trying to lay this on VICKI WHO SAID NOTHING! And Tamra is the one who blurted it out. IT IS ALL TAMRA’S FAULT AND SHE NEEDS TO BE FUCKING FIRED!
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For Tamra to do such a thing to a mother is DESPICABLE! Point blank and the motherfucking period. Tamra is an evil person. And please spell her name right in comments because I DO NOT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED.
I took over two and a half hours to recap this because it was literally the most disturbing episode of any franchise EVER to recap. I apologize to anyone I may have triggered.
As soon as I saw the first round of “choo-choo” and “train” talk last week, I figured it would be this, but I was hoping it would just be the usual rumors of “kinky sex” and wild affairs that have plagued others on this show. (Hey, Vicki. And hey, Tamra.) And really, that would have been more than enough reason for Kelly to be pissed.
But now that my worst expectation has been fulfilled, I’ve had it (officially!) with both Vicki and Tamra. Rape is not a joke, and rape is not some scarlet letter for the victim/survivor to wear for the rest of one’s life. Regardless of how much truth is behind this rumor, it’s simply disgusting to castigate Kelly for allegedly falling victim to a multi-party sexual assault.
I started this RHOC season #TeamKelly, and this not only strengthens my resolve here, but this really adds to my growing anger at Comcast officials and the Real Housewives production crews who have allowed this shit to fester on their shows.
Because I consider you my friend, this made me sob even harder. My dog is unhappy and this is making it all worse.
And now Tamra is on WWHL and she’s saying that Kelly needs to hear Vicki out. No one has yet asked her about her deplorable rumor spreading. I cannot stand her.
Kelly doesn’t need to hear either of them out. Kelly has the right to choose whether to hear them out, and I don’t begrudge her for choosing not to (especially so long as neither Vicki nor Tamra apologizes for spreading these horrific rumors).
Then for Tamra to claim it’s not her rumor and that shannon and vicky ste thr ones spreading it is ridiculous. Shannon seemed to want no part in this and Tamra was clearly the one who wanted it out there. It’s sickening
Of the Tres Amigas, it appears that the two of us and Kelly all view Shannon as the least objectionable of the three. Still, she’s complicit if she doesn’t stand up to Vicki and Tamra and make clear that what they’re doing is wrong.
I want to keep holding onto hope that Shannon will see what they’re doing and reject it, but thus far it looks like she’s sticking with them while they continue attacking Kelly. As much as I’ve loved Shannon on this show, I can’t look the other way as she looks the other way while Vicki and Tamra sink to such a new, disgusting low.
The person I am the most concerned about is Jolie at this point. The amount of psychological abuse she has endured about her mother as a child is just sad. If Kelly can’t sue the show or the other women, I wish Jolie/Michael could. I was 3 minutes into the episode and i couldn’t believe what I was watching. I have looked at Tamra differently since she tried to basically date rape Gretchen with her slimy son. Now i see who she really is. She reminds me of someone who doesn’t believe other women who claim they’ve been sexually assaulted and calls them “liars”. I could also see this behavior from Vicki.
How many seasons did Tamra rant and rave about the Eddie gay rumor? How in the world could she do this to Kelly? I am so over the menopausal amigas…..
Right, not to mention when Laurie happened to see Vicki in a bed with multiple people on an insurance agent boondoggle!! That lit Vicki up on the slopes with that screaming in Laurie’s face about never having been with multiple partners! Tamara, I agree, this is the lowest low.
Agree, and now Tamra is bullying Braunwyn about who she can and cannot speak to on the phone – apparently Braunwyn shouldn’t call or “reach out” to her other set of friends simply because Tamra doesn’t like them. Then to top that off, Tamra never once acknowledges she was the one who let the cat out of the bag regarding the rumor involving Kelly. I think Tamra needs to watch her own show.
Woah, I’m so dumb I didn’t even fully realize the Misogyny until I read this. Keely has every right to be beyond fuming. But production is going to edit her as a psycho all season, and make Tamara and Shannon look reasonable. Uggg…. Your right these shows are killing women. This right here is a nuclear bomb.
You are not dumb. Likely, you just didn’t think it could go so low.
But it has gone that low. So sad.
This episode was fucking horrible.
I like Braunwyn too but had to roll my eyes when she cried after her 7 kids left. A quiet kitchen, a cup of coffee – this is the stuff mothers dream of.
Just thinking the other day, Tamra is one of the few housewives I side eye the heck out of people whenever they say she’s their favorite or they like her.
I know it was so long ago but that thing with Gretchen and her son had to be one of the most awful things I have seen another woman push for on reality tv and now this!
THIS! I will never forget that naked wasted episode. Despicable.
I was thinking about the naked wasted thing to when I read this! Tamra needs to go and never come back. It really is no wonder her daughter doesn’t want to be spoken of by her.
I think that’s why she did this to Kelly. For that comment. She “befriends” her target, gets as much dirt as possible and if not makes it up and uses that “friendship” to make the story seem plausible. She’s always in for the long game and she plays so dirty. I think she does it because contractually the rest of the cast has no recourse and it keeps her in the drama…
The naked wasted episode when Tamra tried to get her own son to rape Gretchen was sickening. Tamra is the worst of all.
Tamra is vile with no redeeming qualities if there ever were they were sold off with her soul to the toilet of Bravo. This bitch needs to go, last two episodes were garbage and this show stinks like expired meat.
Tamra should have been fired IMMEDIATELY after the “naked wasted” with Gretchen event. Would production have intervened if Prepper Ryan (TT I know you hate namecalling, but Vicki’s son-in-law also is a Ryan) had done something? This is just as bad. Even IF Kelly did not have a daughter.
You just KNOW Jolie is going to be tormented at school. If anyone who reads this can come up with an idea to do anything on social media o reach out to someone who can, please let me know. Maybe JOLIE needs to be the one to sue Bravo. I haven’t even seen this yet and I am nauseated and crying. For Kelly too.
Part got deleted … anything or anyone to mitigate the damage [to Jolie] on social media …
I don’t want to rock the boat to what is obviously a sensitive issue, and this in know way excuses what people were talking about, but I was familiar with that term long before Real Housewives, and I have never understood it to mean “rape.” The term, as I’ve always understood, has always meant to have sequential sex with multiple partners and does not say anything one way or another about consent versus rape. Obviously the term can be used in non consensual context but at no time did I believe that they were implying that Kelly was raped by multiple men. Again, I am not saying anyone is wrong in this regard only that that was how I interpreted it during the episode, and I have some familiarity with that phrase being used. Albeit in the context of gay men.
Have you ever had the desire to be fucked by eight men at once? If your answer is yes, that means you are a sexual abuse victim.
DOES THAT CLEAR THINGS UP FOR YOU?
I dated a college football player 35 years ago & heard about trains then. The few “voluntary” train participants were young, vulnerable girls who just wanted to be liked by a football player. Well, they didn’t get a boyfriend afterwards, and they were ostracized socially. I wonder how many today are in therapy, drug abusers, or even alive. It was sad then and sad now.
I remember hearing rumors of “trains” during frat parties in college (back in the ’80s). I was too naive and stupid to realize the girls were probably unconscious, drunk out of their minds, or drugged (or all 3). These women are way too old to be talking and giggling about this in such a way. This show should be pulled off the air right now.
35 years ago i don’t believe “trains” were any more consensual then they have NEVER BEEN.
And i agree, Vicki and Tamra used that for shock value like usual, in their tequila attention seeking selves. If that’s what they are stooping to, shame on them.
When I was 20, I was at a giant party. It was 1970, lots of coke and booze. A girl took some guys by their hands to go pull a train in a back bedroom. She whooped and hollered the whole way. Two girlfriends and I were concerned and two guyfriends went to check that she was not being attacked. But she was WAY into it — and not very drunk. Two guys I knew were involved. They were diminished in my eyes. They were APPALLED by their behavior the next day. One took her out a few days later. I thought he wanted to hook up again. Not. He took her to a fancy dinner because he wanted her to feel better. He said she was completely blasé about it. She could not read the menu. That made him more ashamed of himself. We know now it was a classic cry for attention. In 1970, we didn’t know — were not “woke.” It was Christmastime. She left her underpants behind. They became the tree topper. Every Christmas as I top the tree, I think of her. Say a prayer, wonder what became of her. The odds were not good.
She wanted to be loved by someone. So sad
There’s a difference between consensual plural sex and sexual assault. I’m LGBTQ+ myself, and I once had a (consensual) plural sex experience. Whenever I’ve heard “train” talk, it’s nearly always been non-consensual (as in, sexual assault).
Vicki and Tamra must know something about the history of the “pulling a train” language. I suspect they knew exactly what they were doing by spreading this rumor about Kelly.
As Heather stated elegantly and truly, “if everyone insists you are dead, you need to lie down”.
(Gosh I miss her).
What a perfect response! I miss Heather as well… However, she’s far too classy (not too fancy, too CLASSY) to be associating with these women.
I stopped watching when Heather left. Kelly was especially violent and mouthy her first season and it completely turned me off. I do feel badly that she’s now dealing with the Tres Amigas Coven but I cannot and will not watch the show. Now I know I made the right decision.
It’s time for her to go….Goodbye Tamra!!!!
Both Vicki and Tamra are in the wrong and should be fired. Vicki for alluding to the fact she knew some deep, dark secret and tamra for blurting that shit out. Both are just thirsty bitches who will do anything for camera time. And I’m team Braunwyn all the way, she did the right thing by letting Kelly know what was being said.
My heart breaks for Gina and Emily. They both are going through some shit and deserve so much more than what they’re husbands have given them.
On a positive note, I thought Gina looked amazing on her rodeo trip. Her hair and makeup were extremely flattering unlike her talking head looks. It’s probably the best I’ve ever seen her during the entire series.
Yes, yes and yes!!!
I’m feeling like I should just skip this episode – I hate the direction this has taken, especially given what’s been going on in our country these past few years (#MeToo, etc). AREN’T WE BETTER AS HUMANS THAN TREATING WOMEN THIS WAY?!! I care most about Emily and Gina in this franchise, and want to watch the episode to see them, but I’m having a strong reaction to this recap & think maybe I’m better off skipping it. Tamra is so WRONG for doing this to Kelly!
You didn’t trigger me Tamara. The episode pissed me off big time. I’m sorry you had to write this recap. I was never a fan of Kelly, but my God, what the hell did I just watch? Bravo has sunk so low to have a storyline about rape!! I want to bitch slap that twat Tamra for this. No more with her. She’s an awful person and needs to be fired. Vicki gets demoted and this bitch stays, nah ah, no more!!
Emily is stunning and I have no idea why she gets so much hate on her appearance. Even if she wasn’t so beautiful, still, just leave her alone!! She’s a nice person and doesn’t deserve being harassed online. I love Emily. She’s someone I would love to be friends with.
Shannon confided in Jeff, no doubt, and there he goes and spills the tea about their private conversation. Shannon should be mad at Jeff, not Emily.
Back to Tamra. Bravo sucks ass, and so does Tamra. What will it take to make all this stop? They have sunk so low, it is beyond repairable. She has gotten away with too much over the years, but this is the lowest that I have seen of her. Get the fuck off our TV’s and take your pin for a face son with you.
I changed my mind. I wasn’t a fan of Kelly and now I am. I will stand by her and support anything she says and does. She is a victim in this, and I don’t think this storyline is going to end.
I heard that Vicki, Shannon and Tamra go against Kelly this season. For what?! Defending herself.
I’m glad Emily handed Shannon her ass on twitter. Her frozen fish looks like shit. #YourFishIsUglyBitch
I’m glad Braunwin is nice enough and was a good person for telling Kelly what was being said.
Emily is pretty but she’s a big girl. She got crap on line because she was wearing a bathing suit and had back fat. Sorry if that offends people, but it’s the truth. If you sign up for a reality show, you’re going to get scrutinized. Emily and Gina need to wake the F up and move on with their lives without their crappy husbands. They have no self worth and continue to be treated badly because they think that is what they deserve. No ones husband stays in a hotel for weeks on end “studying”. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
There are times that discretion is the better part of valor. While they do bring their personal lives to fore, our reaction is something we can temper. Emily and Gina are not to blame for their lives and familial interaction.
Ktina, maybe she has no self worth because of comments like that. Who cares if she’s a big girl, she’s beautiful and has more to offer than being on an air diet, wtf?
I think Emily is stunning. And has a great figure. Is she stick thin? Nope. And who cares if she wore a bathing suit? Is she supposed to swim in a wetsuit as to not offend people assholes who should be minding their own business.
She didn’t offend me, just being honest
FFS! Emily is probably a size 8 IRL. I just can’t anymore with the fat shaming and victim blaming! What the actual fuck?
Emily isn’t even a “plus sized” woman. It’s ridiculous how disgusting some women can be.
Actually you weren’t being honest, you were being a judgemental asshole. Emily is hardly fat and is in fact more in line of what the average woman is compared to the other housewives. And even if she was 300 pounds, people deserve to be comfortable. They deserve to be able to dress according to weather conditions without some miserable bitch looking at them and judging them because their own life isn’t interesting enough.
Yep. Tamra was absolutely disgusting in this episode. She brought it up. Brought it up again. Then brought it up AGAIN…that’s not even including talking heads. Then having the audacity to call out Emily for not empowering women bc she tweeted a hashtag about frozen fish!? COME OOOOON.
And Tamra kept pounding the point home at Shannon. Tamra has and will always been a wicked cunt. She will always stir shit and do ugly things to others and try and act innocent and shift the blame elsewhere. I’m not a Kelly fan at all but I really felt sorry for her, her other behavior is mean and hateful but on this I’m am really disgusted. My heart breaks for Emily, she is beautiful and has a body that is more what we regular women have and she deserves a better husband than Shane. Gina makes me very, very sad. I hope she gets her shit together soon.
Tamra is the devil.
Agreed. But I’m of the opinion that BRAVO is the ultimate devil. They are the ones that edited and made the decision to air this shit. This show (and the rest of the franchises for that matter) should be canceled. The misogyny channel has crossed the line of human decency for the last time. How long are we going to tune in and in essence tell them it’s okay? I’m out. Deleted from my DVR. It’s disturbing.
I agree. Tamara is a succubus and Bravo is the. Real Devil.
Don’t you just love how Bravo decides not to air the woman chasing Dorit around the pool, but it’s just fine with airing (false) rumors about Kandi conspiring to drug, kidnap and rape Porsha? And now Traingate.
It’s one thing for Tamra to talk about the train over and over and over around the other girls, but Bravo did not need to air it. Then, to air the subject in SEVEN of her 10 or 11 ITMs. And the WORST one — where she goes on about why no one should gossip, then goes into “eight guys banging you from behind” — looks like production decided the pink sequin ITMs weren’t enough and had her give the red dress one afterward. She blames Vicki, Shannon and Braunwyn and states the rumor spreading “is not my fault.” Yes, it is. She is the ONLY one to keep repeating EIGHT GUYS and bring up FROM BEHIND. Despicable!
Thank you for saying what I feel. Horrified, nauseated, angry.
In my teens/twenties, the females discussing “trains” were the smirky holier-than-thous, pointing fingers.
No more.
The misogyny channel certainly has a lot of wiling female participants who will apparently sell their souls for a check. I don’t feel bad for any of them.
“I don’t feel bad for any of them”
ARE YOU FOR REAL?!
Kelly should quit if this show is hurting her daughter but she stays, why? Fame and money. She’s too stupid to see that it is her actions and hers alone that are making Jolie’s life miserable
Ktina, Can you please not ever reply to one of my comments again. This subject has sent me over the edge and I’m afraid that I might get so pissed at you that I’ll say something I’ll regret.
Judging by the entirety of your comments you are either young or stupid or both because you are definitely missing the big picture here. Fuck you very much and thank you very little.
I agree. Tamra is the succubus and Bravo the REAL Devi.
Don’t you just love how Bravo decides not to air the woman chasing Dorit around the pool, but it’s just fine with airing (false) rumors about Kandi conspiring to drug, kidnap and r-attack Porsha? And now Traingate.
It’s one thing for Tamra to talk about the train over and over and over around the other girls, but Bravo did not need to air it. Then, to air the subject in SEVEN of her 10 or 11 ITMs. And the WORST one — where she goes on about why no one should gossip, then goes into “eight guys banging you from behind” — looks like production decided the pink sequin ITMs weren’t enough and had her give the red dress one afterward. She blames Vicki, Shannon and Braunwyn and states the rumor spreading “is not my fault.” Yes, it is. She is the ONLY one to keep repeating EIGHT GUYS and bring up FROM BEHIND. Despicable!
I can’t believe Tamra keeps getting away with this bs. She’s disgusting & should be fired! This must be Tamra’s way of getting back at Kelly for Vickie being demoted after the last reunion. She puts it out there for Vickie & proves to Vickie she has her back. The 3 Amigas can go away, or at least demote Tamra & Shannon too. I stopped watching it tonight after seeing Tamra’s ugly face trying to look innocent. I will not watch RHOC again unless I see something on TT’s recaps that gives me a reason to. I’ve also stopped the dvr from future recordings. Ruining lives & hurting children is my limit. #donewithRHOC
I think Tamra hates Vicki, though. I think (hope?) that it’s production behind this. I wonder what kind of language is included in their contracts.
I’m fairly certain Tamara didn’t mean she got a train RUN ON her,(her verbiage was wrong 100%) but more participated in group activity. Even if she did (I am not in any way a Kelly Dodd fan, as I do feel like she’s a poor excuse for women everywhere) BUT having said that, it’s NO ONE’s business. In no way shape or form was this okay for Bravo to go into a full story line on this especially if it was rape, (unforgivable) but in any form of slut shaming. And Tamara should understand the consequences of her actions of speaking about this over and over again. Disgusting. Completely out of line. Also, I feel like this show is going to ruin poor Emily who seems very sweet. (her husband is an idiot that needs to be kicked to the curve) I may skip this season.
And you know that Andy will say something stupid at the reunion like, “oh, we’re just celebrating women’s sexuality.” He will gaslight her and turn it around on her for being ashamed about her sexuality or shaming of other women who consensually engage in this.
Andy pulled this same BS when Tamra and Eddie were pissed about the rumors about Eddie’s sexuality. When you are accused of something that you didn’t do or of being something that you’re not, it doesn’t make you a hater for those who do/are. It’s just you standing up for your integrity. Shame on Andy for not knowing this, and for trying to drive up ratings by spreading rumors.
Not only did Tamara try to blame it all on Vicki concerning that dinner table conversation they all had where Tamra blurted out “Oh, you mean the train?”, she ALSO blamed it on Shannon – like Tamra thinks she’s lily white and played ZERO role in all that – Shannon didn’t say a word about it at the dinner table – she said she did NOT want to discuss it – period. Yet, in that separate moment of filming of Tamra where they cut away and talk to the camera, Tamra said something to the effect of “Well, it wasn’t me – Vicki and Shannon were saying it.” Ummmm, nope, Tamra, that was YOU and Vicki. As far as whatever was said to Jeff Lewis – I think Jeff Lewis is a jerk (and yes, I still liked Flipping out and would watch it if it came back just to watch that beautiful little girl of his and Gage’s), and I believe Jeff just made up some veiled “insider info” that wasn’t even truthful. I know Jeff and Shannon are friends, but what does Jeff care really – the world revolves around him and if he has to push a certain unreliable agenda to sell himself/radio show, he will. Just my two cents.
The Tres Amigas were on the Jerry O show and Tamra called Kelly a train wreck and they all giggled. Vile. I still won’t forget the naked wasted episode. Tamra is just vile personified. This is a new low even for bravo. I think to even save this show they need to get a whole new cast in. Or just scrap it entirely. As much as the other housewives may annoy me there’s never been anything as bad as Tamra and co. She should’ve been fired over the Gretchen thing.
Despicable. Tamara is over 50 years old and is acting like a mean teenager. Tamara is continuing to laugh about it. I wonder how she would feel if someone said those ugly words about her mom or daughters?
Tamra is a freaking grandmother. She is too damn old to act like this. She is white trash with some money and plastic surgery.
She’s proof you don’t have to be poor to be white trash
Imagine the “Train Wreck” that Little Miss Christian-in-name-only would be had she not met and married Eddie.
She seems to be desperately trying to please him recently. On the same show Eddie was in the audience and she kept screaming about how amazing he is and it just came across as desperate. I wouldn’t be shocked if Eddie was finally sick of her and the behaviour.
The older OC cast will do anything to stay on TV so sadly this doesn’t surprise me.
I haven’t had the time to watch Bravo and now I am making the choice not to. I don’t want to support these horrific storylines…. Kelly can be rude and say some crappy things but she does not deserve this.
It was evident what kind of person Tamra is from day one! That is why she has been kept on the show! Tamra a Christian? What a joke! She wouldn’t know how to be a Christian if her life depended on it! She is a hateful, backstabbing hypocrite!!! I haven’t watched this show for 3 years now, but I do sometimes read these reviews. Nothing surprising here!!! I totally agree that this so called show should be cancelled!!!
Same. I could see Tamra’s true colors the minute she was introduced on the show. I also stopped watching years ago, this franchise is beyond disgusting.
This show was disgusting. Bravo is disgusting. I hate that I tuned in last night and added to their ratings and thus their profit. How much lower can Bravo sink? I’m scared to know the answer to that question. It’s bye bye Bravo for me.
I CAN NOT STAND TAMRA! This storyline is beyond disgusting. I won’t be watching.
I have never literally thrown 7:24 am STILL AWAKE AND I WILL POKE YOUR EYES OUT IF YOU DISAGREE
I am so glad I decided to quit watching this show. Vicki needed to go after the first season. She’s never been likeable in my opinion. Tamra needed to go after the Gretchen incident. Kelly is spiraling out of control and then some. Train gate should not be a part of the season at all. But, oh how Tamra and Vicki like to feel superior and run their mouths. Then we have Shannon who, like her amigas cannot keep it shut. Show should be canceled asap.
Train gate. Exactly. Every season gets worse by either some “boring gate” or “despicable gate.”
I don’t even know where to start. I can’t say I’m triggered but it does bring up a lot of feelings. Anytime I think of a woman put in a position where she is taken advantage of and abused it makes me literally sick to my stomach. I don’t think it’s true in regard to Kelly, but if it is true it is criminal and should not be handled so lightly. I can’t believe Tamra would actually say that on camera, and then blame Vicki. I can’t believe we’re talking about pulling a train on a RH show. I can’t believe that castmates are talking about pulling a train in their talking heads while protesting that they would never talk about it. There is so much hypocrisy, hatred and anger that it is unpleasant to watch.
But I will say that I appreciate the fact that Tamara is willing to call it out for the atrocity that it is and not just sweep it under the rug.
If Tamara is still making fun of Kelly and the train, then Tamara is not a good person. Any friend would stop making jokes and help Kelly, or talk to her privately. This will damage Kelly for life. I can’t imagine what Jolie will go thru. It is mean spirited. Tamara is bullying Kelly. We don’t stand for it to happen to our kids, why do we allow it in our tv show?
Tamara is showing her true colors. Wasn’t it last week she and her mom attacked Ryan’s ex?
Someone needs to help Kelly, not make fun of her.
Tamra is a POS, Always has been always will be, even with her self proclaimed religious storyline.
Kelly is like a rabid bull in a china shop, the way she comes at people. Emily was on her side last night but Kelly went off on her. She will rage at Vicki, but Tamra gets nothing. Vicki is the fall guy. I dont get why this “storyline” is ok in anyone’s mind and all participants need schooled.
Emily is too nice to be on here.
Tamra for years has gotten away with her shitty behavior. I think the women stay on her side cause they dont want her coming for them. I remember the season Lizzie confronted her and Vicki and Heather ran to baby Tamra after she ran off like a child. She must have something on them, as she doesn’t seem like the type of person Heather would normally hang with.
She is nasty and vindictive. Andy’s favorite type.
Shannon had the nerve to complain that Emily was having a moment after all the emotional outbursts she has had. What happened to empathy and compassion? New Shannon needs to buy a heart.
Looks like Braunwyn is still hanging with Shannon and Tamra.
I would love a season they all treated Tamra the way she has treated them.
She can not get off my screen soon enough. But I am sure she will be there til the OC ends.
Hugs Tamara
Hope you are okay – this episode was disgusting, Tamra is vile, I don’t want to watch this franchise any more, you are right apart from Emily these women are not nice, and I don’t find any of them interesting they have none of the depth of rhobh.
I always think I’m right. Even when I’m wrong. And I REALLY hope I am wrong about the backlash Jolie is going to have at school and on social media after last night’s airing. She felt battered over the cocaine rumors; this is worse. Once one kid hears about this, it can go viral. Kids know how to use the online urban dictionary to find out what a train is. I give it three days to get out of control. I remember when getting a zit on the day of a school dance was the end of the world. That’s what it’s like when you are an adolescent. Kids commit suicide over their own mistakes and rumors. Bad timing for Kelly to be in Greece. But Michael is a good protector. Jolie is going to need it. (Please be wrong.)
I 100% agree with your comment. I too think you are always right. I hope Michael shuts down all of Jolie’s social media.
Just like Kelly said, that is why Tamra’s kids don’t like her! Ruthless!
I have pretty much stopped watching all of the RH shows except NY. I watched part of episode 1 of RHOC and turned it off — same shit, different season. That was before this whole scandal started. I will never go back.
But it seems to me that in addition to simply not watching these Bravo shows, something more should be done to demonstrate the public’s/viewers’ outrage over this disgusting topic. I just don’t know what it is. I wonder if the FCC watches this show. Is it ok for networks to broadcast anything at all?
This explains Kelly’s flight to Europe — she can’t bear to be here during this horror. But her behavior/postings are worrisome. Even for Kelly. I hope she can somehow find some way to process and get past this. And I hope she has hired a lawyer. I know all the HWs and other reality show participants sign all their rights to sue away, but this seems to rise to a level of intentionally outrageous behavior by Bravo that should vitiate the contract and allow Kelly to sue.
This is my first time commenting on this site even though I’ve read it for a year or two! And I came to say – I am no longer watching RHOC after this episode. I’ve been watching since the very first season and have stuck with it through bad season after bad season, but this is inexcusable. I am voting with my remote – time to cancel this show!
Tamra is a miserable bitch. I hate her on this show…. I want Vickie back and Tams gone!
Horrible, Vile, disgusting. I’m sure Bethanny is so glad to get away from RH after this gross storyline. For anyone even questioning whether a train is 99% done to a semi-conscious or unconscious woman who cannot give consent – please think about the other side for a moment. What type of men are participating in a train? Do you think it is Normal, balanced, attractive men with a moral compass? No, it is not. This behavior attracts the lowest of the low. To put this on national television is horrid. Kelly may have a foul mouth, but NO ONE deserves to have this put on television. I’m fast forwarding through anything Tamra says. Loving Emily & Gina still. They are real and interesting with being gross.
Bethenny is trying to save the Amazon. She’s not paying attention to this garbage rumor. But, like you said I’m sure she’s glad to have separated herself from this crap.
I don’t watch any of the housewives shows any more. TT, I do read your reviews but I think I will stop doing that now. It feels terrible to read how horribly these episodes affect you. I wish you would stop reviewing them. They have taken misogyny to a brutal level and no one should be watching them!
I hope you are feeling better.
OMFG.
I have no words.
Tamra has always been a POS IMO and despite what she thinks she was never the hottest Housewife.
I quit watching a couple of seasons back but I do read a recap now and then. I’d rather go back to the older seasons and watch Vicki embarrass the crap out of her kids.
Tamara said it first, but as far as I am concerned every woman on that show that is part of any “train” discussion is a POS. The others should have stood together and shut it down. They had the power to do that and chose not to, making them all equally culpable. Still, production, especially the show runner, should be fired and banned from TV work. Production is at the top of this pyramid, I’ll not watch this franchise any more. They can all go fuck themselves.
What they really need is to hire women who aren’t so damn desperate fame and a paycheck that they will stoop to targeting others with made up accusations, lies to stay relevant. I stopped watching BH because I couldn’t take that anymore and it was making me too anxious to watch them target LVP. Now we have this group using this disgusting storyline to target Kelly. Participation in trains is non -consensual rape as far as I am concerned.
I wonder has anyone heard if Shane passed the bar? I think there was testing in April and July. I live about a mile from Emily and Shane. The library is down the street from me.
Hi TT, Vicki was accusatory in tone, as “the Train” is gang-rape, I wonder was she talking about something totally different… but it gave Tamra an opening to use the phrase..
I have an intense dislike for both women but they’re prepared to sell their souls to be on TV, I blame Tamra 100%, she ‘s a piss poor excuse for a human being, hope your ok, love to Banjo, x
I can only hope there’s a Kandi/Phaedra outcome. This storyline is not entertaining. The way Vicki “subtly” introduced the idea that she knows worse things, and then Tamra blurting it out. They are both to blame for making this a storyline. It’s gross. Even the way the were acting about Gina consoling Emily outside of the store. If it’s not about them, they can’t stand it. Tamra is not acting very Country Club. (Insert eye roll) This show reset the bar for low.
Tamara said something about Gina husband having an affair then dating the woman he had the affair with and how that was like sticking in the knife and twisting it. Isn’t that what she did with Eddie? Only difference was Eddie was a close friend of Simon.
My main concern is for Jolie first, then Kelly and the father…then extend that out to the entire family on both sides, the number of people this affects is staggering! Thanks for the recap TT, I’m sure it was horrible to have to do-
I maybe be wrong but wasn’t Phaedra allegedly fired from RHOA for her accusations against Khandi and Todd. What Tamara said about Kelly was unforgivable and just as damaging as the Phaedra/ Khandi incident. I thought I liked Eddie but I’m shocked that he has put up with Tamara for all these years. I find it hard to believe that he accepts the type of woman she is. Somebody please tell me why he is still with her. Maybe he is “safer” with her than against her.
I think you’re right, allegedly. But if they fired Phaedra over a libelous comment, allegedly, shouldn’t production and the Bravo execs also have been held accountable? After all, they let it continue to be a storyline the whole season and promote it as such. Same in the RHOP situation with Ashley’s husband. So over Bravo.
Thank you, TT. We are 100% in agreement on Tamra! Disgusting waste of space.
First of all I’m stunned and disgusted! I’ve haven’t watched the episode and after reading this I don’t think I can. I cannot believe Bravo would condone and air a storyline about rape in this day and age! It’s deplorable! I my humble opinion this all lies at the head of Tamra Judge. She’s the one who said. The only one who opened her big fate mouth and said it. Yes Vicki and Shannon knew but neither of them said it and admonished her from saying it. Between the naked wasted and this I can no longer watch this show. I cannot and will not support a show and network that has such disregard for women. The Bravo exes have really fucked up! I hope all women take a stand and reject Bravo for this!
I know some people will say these women will do anything for money and they agree with these storylines. But do we have to watch it? Do we have to tune in? We need to say fuck no Bravo you don’t treat women like that!
Ok I’m going to get off my soap box. Have a great one y’all!
I quit watching for years after the naked wasted episode. I was so disgusted I couldn’t even stand to look at Tamra. Now this.
Bravo has started up the Spin Machine. Soft pedaling. Within the last hour. About 4:30 EDT. Looks like preparation for a backlash. Not enough!
Nobody Cares- i agree about production. If I’ve learned anything from the countless episodes of Law & Order, I think McCoy would call that depraved indifference. I apologize if my legal term is wrong.
I didn’t even want to get online today. I’m glad to see that most of you understand my ginormous meltdown last night. I’m not even sure I understand it myself. I finally got some sleep but am still emotionally spent. And feel kind of embarrassed. Thanks for understanding my outrage about the episode.
You were not alone. I had nightmares about it from midnight until 4 a.m. (Of all nights to run out of CBD oil.) After I woke up, I zipped through to rewatch all of Tamra’s ITMs to see if they were as bad as I thought. WORSE! I am not happy that you are upset, but I am happy that my favorite recap writer has such a tender and kind heart. I need to find out the name of Tamra and Eddie’s CBD company so I don’t spend ONE RED CENT with them.
I 100% agree with you! This story line has major implications for Kelly and Jolie. We are in the #metoo movement and this just set back women and abuse. Adult women laughing and making fun of another woman for a sexual assault is beyond words! This triggers women that were abused. I can’t get over the fact 50 year old women are making fun of another woman for this. I am beyond shocked. I feel angry, embarrassed for Kelly, and hate towards all the oc women who talked about it and did nothing to help Kelly. It just shows women are not supportive of other women and abused women are victimized by the press and peers. This is why women don’t report abuse. They are teased and humiliated.
You did great. I’m proud of you.
This was in reply to Tamara’s comment on last nights posting.
In kind of hilarious news, some first time commenters were trying to explain swinging, BDSM and group sex to me. Most of them had no idea what they were talking about. 🙂
Just send them over to Bravo where the “experts”are weighing in. Trying to make it OK. But not!
I plan to go back watch the comical and write letters why I will no longer we their products, or service’s because of this show. And bravo will also get a letter. Will it impact any thing probably not.
I looked at another site (don’t be mad) and the comments were so against Kelly. I was horrified. I remember the phrase “pulling a train” from high school. NO woman or girl is part of that unless they were very drunk or incapacitated somehow, and this was done against their will. I see the real situation now with age and wisdom. It is AWFUL that most of the other woman on RHOC participated in this!
I needed a shower after this episode. Not only can I not stand Tamra, Shannon is on my last nerve this season. I felt so bad for Emily, she is having such a hard time and Shannon was just a bitch to her. I think they should cancel this one along with Atlanta and Jersey. Originally these shows were fun, that’s gone to shit now!! BTW odious NeNe slapped a cell phone out of a guys hands at the airport after saying he was her biggest fan. Thant’s the NeNe I know and hate!! I hope he sues her.
TT,
Great to know you and hopefully Banjo were able to get some sleep! I watched the show and was horrified to watch Tamra slow role the horrific unsubstantiated rumor deflecting herself all the while … what a piece of garbage Vicki is for even whispering the vile rumor to be a topic of conversation on National TV. Both should be fired! I thought about this scene all day .. who in their right mind would ever cut and edit this episode? Thirsty ugly ppl. And the worst part is that neither of these two women – Vicki and Tamra – would ever admit what they did was calculated to run Kelly off the show ..those two nasty women need to shamed off the show. Will it happen? No! And why not? Ratings. I’ve watched this franchise from Day 1. No more.
PS Hope you’re back on twitter, too!
This was my last episode. I was mortified by what transpired. I feel horrible for Kelly and her daughter.
I hope the ratings tank and they pull this trainwreck.
Garbage like this doesn’t belong on tv. 😔
Shannon had what Lauren Manzo had done to lose weight. Lap band. It’s disgusting Shannon is making it seem like she lost it naturally.
Shannon is very lucky nurses are also supposed to hold the same oath as doctors do.
Most of this thread is dealing with the harm gossip can do. You either are spreading rumors, or a nurse, or other medical person, broke an oath. And next thing you know … a trainwreck occurs.
Wrong. You can’t get lap band if you’re only 40 pounds overweight. Manzo was obese.
And you know this how exactly?
I have been reading your blog for years but rarely comment. But after reading your recap and the comments I felt the need to….and mind you, I have not and WILL NOT be watching this episode and any other episode of OC again. First, I must live under a rock because as a 46 year old woman I did not know the term “train.” And quite frankly I am glad I didn’t because just the thought gives me anxiety. Although it seems that my personal experience when I was 18 years old could be described as that…when I was so drunk that I had one person and that person invited his friend- to assault me. While I was able to deal with the experience and move on and now have an amazing husband and children it still keeps me bound in a way I can’t explain. And to hear that there are women who mock such experiences just about blows my mind. I just don’t get what is going on and how could this be construed as “entertainment?”
My heart goes at to Kelly while having to deal with this HORRIBLE women. My heart goes out to Jolie, because let’s be real….kids are just cruel. Those women out to be ashamed of themselves. But the worst part is they will NEVER admit fault. Just pushing it off on someone else. This franchise is done. It is not entertainment anymore.
I’m so very sorry that happened to you. It breaks my heart to hear stories like this. And you are brave to share yours. Sadly, it is still happening at colleges and the boys are still getting away with it. And people wonder why it’s under-reported! I totally agree that it is not entertaining but rather nauseating and horrific. And these women are irresponsible for allowing production and the network to exploit it. This is the lowest of the lows I’ve been unfortunate to view. No more! If this isn’t an example of a hostile working environment, I don’t know what is. I am glad to hear your life turned out great and you have a family,etc. But I also know that some things are impossible to erase from our memories and the pain that comes with it. Godspeed, srt 3!
Let us not forget that not only are these women mostly incapacitated but they can also be sober and mentally manipulated into allowing this to be done to them. Parents please raise your sons to be compassionate gentlemen and your daughters to be self-confident ladies.
Just when I thought Vicki G would be off my TV, she has to be pulling stupid LVP-esque tricks like this, with Tamra as her Kyle-esque side kick. Sick.
I was never a fan of Kelly, but she did her job of being Vicky’s friend when no one else would film with her, and she brought the train wreck behavior that production loves. Bravo did her dirty.