It’s time for the first RHOC recap of the season. As always, the trailer is teasing a very exciting season. Let’s see if the actual series starts with a bang, or a whimper.
It’s great to see Shannon doing so well with her weight loss. I don’t need to see her working out. I don’t understand why production thinks we want to see people working out. We are couch potatoes.
Gina calls her dad in New York to talk about her DUI. Also, she has bought her own house. It is the first time she has lived on her own. She says that she was at an event for moms shopping for leggings and drinking wine. However, if I recall correctly her ticket for the DUI was written very late at night. Yep, I just fact checked myself with the link above and it was 4 am when she was pulled over. She had already gotten a ticket for running a stop sign before this second traffic violation. Then, she after this she got a third ticket. She had three tickets in 2019 in less than five weeks.
We will have to talk about Gina’s talking heads later. I have two screenshots to share with you. I would not know it was Gina if it were not in her scene.
A House Divided
Next, we move on to Kelly. She has a new man who is apparently spoiling her. He must not know anything about her.
Across town we see Tamra’s new house. No not the new house from last season. They decided that house didn’t like them and had bad mojo do they moved to Coto de Caza. I believe that is where Vicki lives and was the original neighborhood for season one of RHOOC. She super excited that they joined the very fancy country club. I would be shocked if they allowed Bravo to film there. Is that a typo on the chyron? Was this gorgeous house in California really on two million dollars? I think it would cost a little more than that in Atlanta. It’s money well spent though.
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In addition to Tamra’s son Ryan’s many other faults, he is an avid Trump supporter. I’m not sure if he can vote with his criminal record though. Tamra’s youngest son Spencer as “the total opposite” political views. Quite frankly, that may be just as bad. This country needs to find the sane middle ground. Ryan threatened to punch Spenser in the face for calling him a racist. If you blindly support Trump you are a racist. I’m tired of pussyfooting around that fact. On the other hand, I am for the wall and secure boarders. What I am not for is racism, bigotry and vile tweets. Tamra wants her sons to make up. Me too. I’d like less politics on my housewives shows.
The Quiet Woman
Ah… another scene with Tamra and Shannon at The Quiet Woman. Will Shannon throw a plate at Kelly this time? One can only home. I believe these two get along for the first few episodes at least. Shannon says she is dating a lot of men at the moment. Apparently, the one with her tonight is a front-runner. You go Shannon Beador. Find your happiness wherever you can.
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These two seemed to support each other as divorced women between seasons. They both trash Gina for her DUI. Because they both love kicking people when they are down. Shannon blames Gina for this.
Kelly has “invited” Braunwyn to The Quiet Woman to introduce her to Shannon. Because, Shannon is always so welcoming of new housewives. Braunwyn looks amazing. She shares that she nursed for 18 years across seven children. Surely, that is hyperbole. Or perhaps she is one of those helicopter moms who shows up to lunch at the elementary school to breastfeed her third grader.
Pharoah Cats And Jackasses
In a crazy scene where Kelly needs to address a rat problem, she says she thinks she needs to adopt a “Pharoah” cat. Le sigh. Does no one have a decent vocabulary any more? Did Kelly go to USC as part of the rowing team? She wants an outdoor cat. Good luck with that. The cat advocates and the dog advocates don’t generally let people adopt pets that will be outdoors. Because animals have been living in houses since time began.
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Gina goes out to lunch with Emily. Gina tells a whole new version of the night of her DUI. The mom event where she was just shopping for leggings is now at her friends house. There was someone in the car with her who had a open container and that is why she got the DUI. She claims she passed all the tests and the Breathalyzer “wasn’t registering.” This is stupid to do on TV. Currently she is in a custody battle with her husband. She recently asked the court to make him submit to random drug and alcohol tests. His response was that he had never been arrested for anything related to drugs or alcohol. But, she has.
True Friends (For Now)
I feel sympathy for Gina. Everyone fucks up sometime. The experience sounds traumatizing. She is a bit of an emotional mess, as one would suspect. If she is your friend, you should be there for her in the bad times like Emily is doing. Emily mentioned in her talking head the gravity of the situation and the repercussions of getting a DUI. But she is still there listening to her friend cry and talk about it. A true friend is one that walks in when others have walked out. At this point things are still decent with Matt. But that will become an even BIGGER issue than a DUI. But we have about five months before we get to that part of the story. Filming will have just ended, but Gina will come back to film about the attack.
Braunwyn Has Her Own Zoo
Braunwyn’s kids range from age 18 to ONE! Plus there is a pair of five year old twins in the middle! She’s been married to Sean Windham for 19 years. They met at a frat party in college.
Kelly’s boyfriend skeeves me out in the first 19 seconds of seeing him. This is the kind of guy I run from. He just too happy to be with her and overdoes everything. This may be a staged scene but in real life this is my cue to ghost the guy. Also, this is an add for a florist and a jeweler. Bleck. I see now why Michael was not happy his daughter met this dude. This guy makes Michael seem normal.
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Oh dear God we have to see all of Shannon’s plastic surgery. Why are we ending on such a gross note? Ugh and Kelly’s Botox! Kelly’s new man is a plastic surgeon. She’s get all the free work, he’ll get all the free advertising. Then she will move on.
On next week’s episode Tamra is throwing the first all cast party. And for some reason, she is asking Kelly if it is okay if Vicki comes. Since when is Kelly Dodd the decider of anything real or production-driven? Kelly is pissed that Vicki mentioned that she did cocaine on the last reunion. Kelly says her kid’s friends parents don’t want to let them come over. She drags her kid on the show to talk about it. It’s weird.
Yep, I remember when RHOC began. Lauri was “the poor one” because she didn’t live in Coto.
As for Tamra’s sons, I’ll just say I had an incredibly rough weekend. I’m trying really hard to get out of a very dark place. I’ve seen a lot of scary shit in my line of work, and what I saw over the weekend triggered by PTSD.
I guess when I look more closely at my own life, I feel more for Gina. She’s clearly going through a lot. She just needs some love and a lot of help.
Yep, things are getting bad my friend. Between the world we are all trying to survive and dealing with 97 meds for Banjo’s flea infestation, I’m rather paralyzed by anxiety and the narcoleptic depression that comes after the anxiety eases up a bit.
Hang tough. I’ve got to figure out how to get this house ready to be moved out of. I keep saying that. I fear I may wait too late and just have to flee at some point.
Use capstar, that works in about 30 min to kill fleas. Then use a monthly preventative. Sometimes ones you have used don’t work anymore. Bravecto works great and you only have to use it every 3 months.
Well RHOOC is upon us! Sorry this is long but I’m taking a break from work and this is the time I always read Tamara’s feedback:) I am still shocked the OG Vicki has been demoted to “friend”. I am shocked Shannon is back but I guess maybe her storyline will be better than last year. I think Tamara will be next as it seems BRAVO is replacing the older housewives. It is too much for us viewers to constantly see plastic surgery recoveries and superficial storylines. Get some real substance. Okay so these are the reactions I got from last night’s show:
1. KELLY – Her boyfriend does seem a little off. And the way he gave her that gift was beyond bizarre and well rehearsed. Like a business transaction?! I think he is just for the FREE advertising & Kelly is not classy enough to carry “wife” for a plastic surgeon.
I think her daughter has been hurt by her mom on the show. Kelly’s vile and classless vile mouth is disgusting and I think her poor daughter gets teased. Wasn’t their a bully issue in Kelly’s first season. I just don’t understand these older women’s behavior sometimes. Don’t they consider their kids? As far as the cocaine, Who knows if that is true but I think Kelly has done more damage to her daughter than the one comment from Vicky, which was wrong.
2. TAMARA – I just don’t see any interest with her anymore. It is getting old for me. As far as her sons politics? I agree we don’t need politics on these shows. Ryan should be able to express himself as well as her other son. Spencer’s behavior, who lives in a GATED WEALTHY COMMUNITY, which tamara said “DOUBLE GATED” and then for him to attack Ryan is not okay. Tamara is taking sides and should not. I can only imagine Spencer attacking Ryan. This has been typical in our country lately and now we see it in families. It’s not okay. We need to lower the temperature.
3. GINA – I feel for her. Whatever the reason for the DUI she is hurting. I don’t care if she came from a store, her friends house, or a movie theater, she got a DUI and she is taking accountability for it. I think her husband cheated on her and you can see the pain in her eyes. Her life was her husband since she was young, and I hope she comes out of this victoriously!
4. SHANNON – Shannon’s worry after her divorce was her weight, and now she is sooo happy cause she is skinny. How superficial can you get. I can’t imagine all these men fleeing to her because she lost weight. It will be just a matter of time these men will run once she opens her mouth and reveals her true self. BRAVO needs to get more inspired women especially about divorce. Maybe Gina will do that.
5. BRAUNWYN – WHY ISN’T ANYONE POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT SHE PICKED HER DAUGHTER UP FROM A PORTABLE CRIB IN A CLOSET!? I have no words. Her son needs to get that mop cut on his head too, her daughters seem off to me, and it just seems like a hot mess in that household. If her story line is only going to be that she looks good after having 7 kids or that she has 7 kids, I’m out.
6. EMILY – love her!! She is a true “ride or die” girl. She was listening to Gina and not judging. That is a true friend when you fail they are never disappointed. This is what we need more from BRAVO!! Not plastic surgeries! Gina’s husband just seems like a jerk. She deserves better!! Ever time he is on camera he is folding his arms. Which is a sign of guarding himself and he is has a stale personality. I hope he comes around for her sake. I think she says she hasn’t worked out and maybe she gained some weight. I think underneath she is screaming for her husband to love her and to want to be there for her and her kids. I am not sure he is capable of that.
Okay back to work! Great feedback Tamara!
K
Well said! I only wanted to add that I can’t take another season of Shannon’s meltdowns. I’m tired of watching all this plastic surgery, Gawd almighty what is wrong with these ppl & their body dysmorphia? They look deformed!! Stop it plz, Bravo. Well we shall see where these middle aged women take us with their antics! ?
I am with you!! I was recently thinking, after the RHOBH “puppy gate” storyline, and (just keeping it real) how Andy and BRAVO are actually making RICH PEOPLE even richer $$. Having these supposed wealthy women go on these extravagant, expensive trips, that they can afford themselves!? So these women go on their own extravagant vacations then return back to “work” to go on MORE extravagant vacations!
Hey Andy, what about sending us viewers on these luxury vacations instead of the wealthy housewives?! I think majority of your viewers can’t afford it and can only dream about going to these extravagant places. If you still need the housewives to go, then add to the budget $$ so each housewife can bring a viewer? I mean without us their wouldn’t be a BRAVO!? Right!?
Okay Tamara, it’s official. I just figured out a way for BRAVO to reach us viewers. Let us feel what it is like to be one of these real housewives. That would for some great TV!
Okay, I elect myself, my 2 daughters, Tamara, and Nancy too! Then Andy can select the rest. I mean do you know how amazing this would be. How many shows + # of housewives. I think our country needs to bridge the gap between the wealthy & us regular “folk”. With all the racism talk & the division of our country, this can bring us together!!
I would hope the Housewives would be on board! What does everyone think about this idea!?
If you didn’t point out the fact that the baby was in the closet I had to. How could Tamara not mention that in the recap. You brag about having all these kids but the baby sleeps in a playpen in the closet.
Another thing I have to mention is the fact that Kelly’s behavior on this show definitely is NOT normal behavior by any means.
I was always asking myself “what the heck is Kelly on bcuz she flys off the handle for absolutely No reason….?”
It’s almost the same personality trait as somebody using crystal meth or some of those other nasty drugs, where the person is seemingly calm and normal, and then for absolutely no reason, or for some reason very small… POOF!!! The littlest thing makes them FREAK OUT and act all crazy, making it impossible to Calm them down, exactly like Kelly does!!
Out of all of the kids from this show, I feel badly for Kelly’s the most. It must be awful having to face the fact that Kelly is her mother! How very, very embarrassing and beyond immature of Kelly!
I don’t think Kelly wants a man for love, she just wants a different man to pay for each different thing; boobs, dental, plastic surgery, expensive things, and the list goes on… I mean, you can totally see how she Fakes liking the person!
Anyway, that’s my thoughts on all of this, not saying I’m right! It’s just how I see and feel about things…
KP
I’m sorry to hear you’re going through a rough time. I always enjoy your insight comments. I haven’t watched the episode yet but I have a lot of empathy for Gina. She looks unhappy and stressed in photos. I’ve been going through a divorce for 3 yrs next month. The constant manipulation, game playing worries etc wears you down until you’e a nervous wreck. We’ve watched it take a toll on Bethenny. My ex did not physically abuse me as Gina’s did and I can only imagine how that adds to her difficulties. Plus 4? 5? kids! Under 10! Mon Dieu! I can’t imagine. I hope people will try to be kind, patient and understanding.
Omg booorrriinnnggg…. I read the new HW said her most conflict was with Tamra – I thought when I first saw her oh Tamra is gonna hate her….Shannon’s reaction seeing her was jealousy too it was hilarious!!! Oh she has 2 nannies and a successful handsome husband and looks amazing….I think she has been grooming herself to get on this show for awhile, for that to be a personal dream is kinda sad:( So glad I moved out of the OC tho, like she said too much pressure.
Yeah. I think she literally moved the whole family to the OC to be on the show. Another woman from Florida did that once. Sold the house and everything. Then ended up not getting on the show after all and the whole family moved back wherever they came from.
I agree about Kelly’s boyfriend. I got a familiar, uncomfortable Brooks vibe off him.
Yes!!!!!
I did not get a Brooks vibe from him. I got more of a Kelly should keep her daughter away from him kind of vibe. I think it is either my childhood issue raising it’s ugly head, but I seem to also have an instinct when it comes to evil men with sick attractions to children/young girls and my pedo-dar when off big-time. He completely skeeves me out. I very sincerely hope and pray it’s just something else due to my CPTSD being in full bloom lately due to some unforeseen things that have come up and that I’m reading way more into it than I should. If it were me, however, I don’t care if he could sew in a new kidney for me AND buy me a tiara with real jewels and a yacht, I’m running the opposite direction asap.
I do not like Gina’s new look. Who did that to her? She was so young and pretty. What exactly has she had done to look like that? Kelly has a bad talking head look also.
She looks like shit. Why would she get white hair?
“Did Kelly go to USC as part of the rowing team?” ?
Omg I JUST caught that ?
I didn’t enjoy seeing Emily’s husband at his parents house because the library was closed. He’s got to eat can’t he come home and visit with his family? He’s gone all day and night 7 days a week? Something is up
It looks like Gina had a nose job. Right?
I was thinking that too! Why did she change her look so much! She looked really good and natural before! What’s with the hair too? No body shaming here, but in her talking heads it looked like she gained some weight plus a nose job and a bad dye job!
I really hope it’s one of those “filler” nose jobs and tons of makeup because she’s so cute and perfect without any work. She looks like she got tons of filler work done though and that makes me sad. At least it does eventually dissolve.
I have only watched the first 10 minutes but I have to ask what happened to Gina and Kelly. Was there some sort of two for one deal on noses? Why are they both missing their left nostrils?!? Everyone needs to fire the make up team.
I could have done without the Ryan scenes.
Gina looks like she had work done and asked to look like an alien. What is wrong with these people? I don’t think stress made her look like an alien, it’s bad plastic surgery.
Ryan and his dumb bitch of a mother need to go away. What does living in a gated community have to do with hating the Mango Mussolini?
It has nothing to do with it. Tamra and her pin for a face son, Ryan needs to go. We are watching clowns at their lowest. (sorry real clowns)
Ryan does resemble a pin.
Is it just me, or did the whole scene with Tamra and Ryan acting like he is a diehard supporter seem like very bad scripted acting?
The scenes with Emily and Shane made me sad for her and I feel like it is gonna get much worse before it gets better.
On a more positive note, I hope this version of Shannon is here to stay! She seems to have genuinely turned a new leaf. Good for her!
Yes. When I was watching Tamara and Ryan talk, I was thinking this looks like very bad acting. She mustn’t have a story line and wants us to talk politics on the blogs, is my guess.
Dang man I thought for a second there was a new Housewives show of which I had no clue, and then I looked it up, and whah…whah…it’s orange county, a show I stopped watching years ago. Really tough the thing that drew me in was the first picture which kind of looks like Christie from BB21.
I feel about as much sympathy for Gina as she had for Shanon last year. I watched the reunion and Gina was a bit too gleeful when it came to Shanon’s failures and a little to quick to talk about Shanon self medicating with alcohol. Seems like maybe Gina did a bit of that too…
They both went through/are going through really bad divorces with allegedly abusive men and they would benefit from supporting each other not tearing each other down (looking at you Shanon).
Gina looks terrible, I hope her divorce ends swiftly with less drama than it’s having.
I’m happy for Shannon. Good for her. One of my favorite scenes is when she said at the Quiet Woman, “This is not my plate!!” I don’t know why I liked it so much, maybe b’c she looked like a young girl who was in trouble after she did it. She looked cute instead of a raving bitch, like Kelly who egged her on by insinuating she’s fat.
Glad she’s moving on and seems happy. She looks great and I think she’s a hoot. It takes time and effort to get over an abusive husband. I hope she doesn’t give him a second thought anymore.
Omg poor Gina looks horrible! She looked fine during the phone call with her dad but her talking heads were awful! She’s doesn’t even look like herself and that platinum is doing her no favors – ages her many many years. She even looks too Jersey-ish/trashy in the opening scene when she’s holding the orange. I think her unhappiness has taken a toll on her physical appearance.
Tamra tagged her ex daughter in law (Ryan’s Ex) in one of her photographs on Instagram a while back and I had a look through her IG and saw she was a massive trump supporter and very right wing. She had a post about the demise of the American family and kids having multiple father figures in their lives. There were loads of comments calling out the hypocrisy as all of her children have different fathers. She was arguing back saying it wasn’t the same. It was so weird.
Gina looks really odd, She’s had so much done. Emily too which is sad because I thought she was stunning last season.
ONCE MORE WITH FEELING, I agree with the demise of the family unit also. And also with the people calling Tamra a hypocrite. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF REPUBLICAN POLICIES. But Trump is NOT A Republican and if you support him you are a racist piece of shit. That goes for ALL the current Republicans in office who will not stand up for this PIECE OF SHIT we have in office. And is why i am voting a straight blue ticket next time, just like I did last time. The system is CORRUPT. The R are owned by NRA and refuse to do ANYTHING about mass shootings So I am out of this country. I am not like Whoopi Goldberg or others who threaten. I am trying to keep my dog alive as long a possible and then, I am going somewhere where I can afford medical treatment and prescriptions. That is the reason. And I don’t think this democratic socialist thing is any better. Just ask our Veterans how well this country runs their healthcare system.
They all suck. Which is why we don’t need any more immigration until we figure out how to take care of ourselves. That’s just me. I don’t make a lot of money. I don’t want to be on a lot medication. But if I have to be, I can’t afford to do it in my own country.
I agree 100% with your comment regarding healthcare our vets get.
Oh TT I wasn’t saying that Trump isn’t racist, just that it was weird for Sarah to be posting about immigrants and dems not having strong family units and multiple baby fathers when she does as well. It’s so hypocritical. So I’m not surprised Ryan has the same thoughts as that was his girlfriend. I’m not American and even I can’t stand trump. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I so much agree with this post. Is a veteran, and also currently have insurance. But, it’s the very high deductible type, so I’ve spent a night writhing in pain to wait until morning because I didn’t want to pay for an ambulance. And you will pay, a lot. Getting sick shouldn’t wipe out your savings. People who worry about more taxes, pay attention to where they are actually going currently.
Sorry for that. As for the show, I hadn’t realized the new season had started. Not sure if I want to see it, although I’ll read the recaps here.
A standing ovation is in order here, Tamara. I stand in agreement about the Republican Party. Under the current administration, it seems our country has become a hate monger society and getting more violent as the day is long. If we don’t stand up and start being proactive against all of his racist BS 45 is projecting out to the masses, I am truly concern something more horrific is bound to happen sooner or later. I am all for taking a page from the 60’s and 70’s page book. Let the peaceful protests began. Usually I refrain from commenting on politics, but in this chaotic time every voice need to be heard. Blue ticket all the way.
Oh, yeah RHOOC was #boringandpredictable. I will read your recap, but not give them time or space on my DVR. And, if Trump talk is Tamra’s story line for this seas, peace out. The door is nailed closed on RHOOC.
Tamara, I want to frame this comment! Couldn’t agree more and I don’t have the writing skills to say what you did so succinctly. Thank you!
Tamara,
I just read your post from Wednesday. I read your blogs every day and I am SHOCKED about how you are calling Trump supporters RACIST. I am extremely insulted and disappointed that someone in your “line of work” who need people to support your site that you are insulting many of us. I am not and never have been a racist!! And nobody I know is a racist now or even when I was growing up.
I want you to read this article. My son was on that football field that night and as a mother I was HELPLESS watching my son and husband (who was a coach) take cover because shots were fired as the parents took cover in the bleachers. Our school’s cheerleaders were getting off the school bus when the car drove by.
ARTICLE LINK:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2017/9/30/18506213/providence-hope-academy-take-cover-during-friday-8217-s-game
Not once did us parents say where has Obama been? Why didn’t he do anything to help the violence in our city while he was President? Where is Obama now? He has the time? Why can’t he come to meet with the young kids of our inner city and talk with them, sit with mothers who have lost a son to street violence?!
You want to talk politics so, Obama will be here when they open HIS Obama Center that is costing us $500 million dollars. He will be here then but not to visit our troubled streets but, to cut the red ribbon on his new center. A center that will be surrounded my poverty and violence. Do you know how many young people can go to college using that $500 million? How many single mothers can get a FREE home so she can take her kids out of the violent neighborhoods?
So, please don’t call me a racist because I support our President, it’s just not right. I didn’t vote for Obama, I didn’t like any of his policies or what he did with healthcare or to our country, but I always respected him. My parents taught me virtue, having good morals, to have faith, and to always be kind and respectful. And that is what I have taught my own children.
Tamara, you have a platform here, I wish you would have just made us laugh, give us relief from the toxicity that is ruining our country. If everyone is going to blame 1 person for every issue that happens within our contry as our President then we should start placing blame on our past Presidents that have left us struggling because of a law or executive order they signed.
After the shooting at the football game & police were present these young men came together and continued to play the game. They never saw eachother’s skin color, they were bonded because of what just happened. They didn’t see eachother as enemies, but as fast friends. These boys are the true heroes!! And after the game our mothers met the other teams mothers and we embraced because we had been through hell just 90 minutes before. I will NEVER forget that night or the mothers we met. So, if you and your readers want to feel better and call me and many of YOUR supporters racist, then this will be the last time I read your blog.
I have my own business and I would never and could never insult my customers in the way you insulted me. I respect, appreciate, and am grateful for each and every person because without them I wouldn’t be in business. And for that I am truly blessed!
It’s been fun…but I must go.
PROUD TRUMP SUPPORTER 2020!!!
If you support a racist lunatic, you are a racist.
Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
This site does not need condone racism. You are a racist and contribute to the division of this country with your racist views. You need to look at a mirror and ask yourself why you are so proud to support racism.
I am sorry you and your family went through that.
The new attack on President Trump is to say that he is racist and all of his supporters are racist and/or white supremacists. I guess the good news is that they have moved on from the Russian collusion hoax.
Tamara, I am disappointed that you are saying this. I remember during the election and shortly after that you understood that voters were voting on policy, not racism. Some of the people who voted for President Trump voted for former President Obama.
Obama’s policies made it very difficult for small businesses. Regulations were strangling us. Obama care increased my premium by over 50%, my copay was higher, and less was covered. I am trying to help my small business survive.
I’ve watched the democratic debates and with policies like De Blasio saying he wants to tax the hell out of businesses and his top rate is going to be 70%, Yang is giving every living person $1000/month (where does that come from?), free college, free health care, Harris locked away people for smoking marijuana and laughed about it, former VP Biden would have won if he ran in 2016 but I am not sure he is able to do it now and embracing Obamacare concerns me.
My point is that all of the candidates have flaws. I vote policy. Race doesn’t even factor into my decision on who to vote for. It is unfair and unfounded to call me racist when my vote is based on policy and nothing else.
The MSM coverage of President Trump is over 90% negative. They will not give him credit for the positive things he has done.
I’m not angry with you Tamara. I am not leaving because of what you wrote. But, I am disappointed because, like I said, I really thought you understood. I think what happened this weekend has all of us emotional. While the MSM is blaming President Trump for the shootings please take a look at the Ohio shooters political leanings. I know CNN has reported it. Also, the Texas shooter has conservative values he also did not like President Trump.
I think Tamra from RHOC was a fool for bringing this up on camera. There are so far left and far right loons that are going to cause problems for her sons. What was she thinking?
This isn’t about policies, or Obama or anything other than racism, misogyny, raging white privilege, and a complete inability to show empathy to the mass shooting victims and their families.
If you are okay with those attributes the you are a shit person. It’s quite simple. Either you support a raging racist blow hard or you don’t.
Sorry if I’m replying to wrong person but this is for “Proud Trump Supporter”. (They’re probably in WLS now anyway) I’ve been a registered republican all my life. Live in a VERY RED STATE. If you don’t live in a red state you just don’t get the healthcare clusterfuck. I voted on policy and am ASHAMED to say that I voted for the orange, racist, white privileged, homophobic, pussy grabbing, Putin lovin’, dumbass N Korea believing one with fucking dementia and a Twitter problem. HE IS WE TODD DID. This is NOT the same Republican Party I grew up with. The far left is no better. This country is SO INCREDIBLY FUCKED UP IT’S FRIGHTENING!
Use your brains people! The NRA owns the Republican Party. Climate change is real. We can’t take care of our own. While I’m not fooling myself that healthcare is going to get any better, because socialized medicine doesn’t work especially if you can’t afford it bc your country is in debt up to its ass. I will be voting a straight blue ticket because I don’t want the lunatic getting another term. Any person with critical thinking skills is somewhere in the middle! An Independent is not going to be electable.
Trump is irresponsible and his rhetoric was most definitely a catalyst for the El Paso shooting. You know the one, where the shooter TARGETED Latinos? Hello?! I’m for borders being closed because we must fix ourselves first, but I don’t want to put human beings in what amounts to “camps” either and separate them from their families much less kill them!
Christ on a cracker! We are going BACKWARDS! And if something doesn’t give, we are headed for another fucking holocaust. Trump just nixed the assault rifle ban on his way to El Paso (where he was NOT welcome)! Not to mention he confused Dayton with Toledo!
He is ready for the nursing home. I simply just can’t stay silent anymore. There are college kids who actually believe that the world is flat and that we never actually walked on the moon.
“Those who don’t learn their history are doomed to repeat it.”
…. sorry I forgot who said that but omg people PLEASE WAKE THE FUCK UP! If you’re not in the 1% you are FUCKED. That’s the deal. Red or blue.
TT, sorry for the derailment and the rant. Delete if necessary.
That is all.
Rant over.
It’s sad that Americans are so overwhelmed and/or brainwashed into believing that a universal healthcare plan won’t work here. It works everywhere else and it’s worked in most countries for decades. I also would like to move to a country with universal healthcare even though I won’t be eligible for it due to the fact that I won’t be able to become a citizen I would still have cheaper healthcare than here in the U.S.
We are America: we can’t do anything.
We are already a socialized nation in many regards and we need more socialized protections for the lower classes and the almost non-existent middle class.
Seriously. This website I learned about a few years ago will change your life and make you understand why there isn’t enough money down here in the trenches in America. It’s not some weirdo site. It’s a site run by The Economic Policy Institute which is a non-partisan, non-profit think tank founded in 1986 to gather actual facts to study the needs of low and middle income Americans.
I won’t outright post a link here. I don’t trust links from people I don’t know so I’ll just tell you how to find the site if you’re interested. You can google “income inequality and American worker productivity” and you’ll find a link to the EPI with a bunch of very simple graphs that lay it all out for you. Took me about 5 minutes to understand that the American worker is basically making the same salary now that he or she made in 1979 while producing almost 70% more during that same time!
How did they do that to us? Mostly downsizing and busting unions. Then our medical care became too expensive and we were all scrambling just to try to remain middle class. Now we are scrambling to literally keep a roof over our heads. So much pressure. So little money. So unhealthy.
TT, forgive this rant on here but your need to escape the U.S. for healthcare is something my husband and I have been struggling to make happen for years. We feel your worry and desperation to get everything in order and nothing seems to go right. We wish you luck.
Canadian friends of ours actually wished they could adopt us and put us on their healthcare plan a few years ago! Don’t I wish…
The EPI is far from nonpartisan.
Thanks for the info, Fly. I feel your pain. If you are between 50-65, you are SOL as far as quality, affordable health insurance is concerned. And your chance of finding or holding onto a decent job with benefits decrease in that time frame. You are the first to be laid off, and the last one to get an interview.
And SJ, facts ARE nonpartisan.
You’re welcome, Katherine. But I feel terrible for the derail of this thread. I posted this early this morning after a fitful night of sleep. I was actually coming here to see if I could delete it.
TT, I’m sorry for the derail. I promise it won’t happen again.
Katherine 2.0, they may be your facts, but I can prove them wrong.
Gee, when I wasn’t making enough money I went back to college to get my 4 year degree…I decreased my full time hours at work and moved out of my apartment. I then rented a room so I could afford my education. Imagine that, to want to better myself and achieve the lifestyle I wanted. I swear, if I could do it, so can a multitude of others…
How pray tell did you afford to go back to college while decreasing your full time hours at work?
I used my savings and student loan. Also, received a grant.
Gee, now imagine a world where you can’t afford to cut back hours. Where you and your children can’t rent a room to live in. Where you can’t afford, nor qualify for assistance, for an education. Where you can’t afford to cut your hours or risk losing the luxury of PAYING for a 700 dollar a month health premium. That sucks BTW. That’s the real world that 75% of Americans live in. Yes I made that % up but facts died a few years ago so fuck it. I love your determination and admire it as well, but in life it’s not possible for everyone to reshuffle the hand they were dealt.
It makes complete sense that Gina kept insisting that nothing was wrong in her marriage—she was scared of him.
I just read what he did to her. Wow. I hope she can get another Bravo abuser out of her and her children’s life. It’s so much harder when children are involved. You have to remain in contact with your abuser if the courts fail you. I don’t know anything about this case, but it my eyes, he’s dangerous to her and her children too. He tried to kill her. My God.
Poor Gina, no woman deserves to be treated that way, especially by someone who vowed to love and protect..
I made a comment above about Kelly’s new man, but wanted to delve in a bit more into other characters:
1. Emily looks pretty as usual I heard her on some podcast last wee or this week (I have lost track of time) and could not believe how much hate she gets online (sounds like IG mainly) about her looks, calling her [email protected]@ss, telling her to lose weight, lose weight for her daughter because her daughter is [email protected], etc… – WTF???? She is gorgeous and she has curves in the right places – she is FAR FAR from fat or even slightly overweight! There are PLENTY of men who would adore her! Heck, I’m straight and I adore her. I hope her marriage can withstand what is ahead – it already sounds like it’s on shaky ground.
2. Tamara – Still pretty as ever – praying she keeps her trap shut more this season (yeah, I know, that’s a pipe-dream). Her eldest son needs to be institutionalized and I mean that seriously. There is something really disturbingly wrong with him.
3. Shannon looks just awesome! Good for her! She seems less annoying thus far and good for her and getting out and dating. (I could have done without the plastic surgery garbage.)
4) Kelly – I’ve never truly “bonded” with her – she is what personally I’d call a high maintenance narcissistic friend (on this show, however, who isn’t? Well, except Emily from what little we’ve seen thus far and last season). I tend to shy away with people who snap very quickly and violently – not my kind of people. I’ll probably never care for her – there, I said it.
5) Gina, Gina, Gina – I did not recognize her either. Did she ask the plastic surgeon and the fashion stylist to give her the “barely over a hooker look?” My heart goes out to her as far as her soon-to-be ex goes and the domestic viloence – been there, don that, got and wore it into rags the T-shirt, then bout 10 more. I hope she uses a personal driver all year or hitches with the other gals. And she slows down in the booze (but, she’s going thru a lot too – unfortunately, getting hammered a bunch will not help that).
5) BraLine or BoredWind or Braunwynne, whatever her name is – I didn’t see enough of her to make any opinions and she’s the newbie, but wow – 7 children! Kuddos for her for looking so gorgeous and chic! I’m always fearful, however, with couples doing reality TV who have had a successful longer lasting marriage (I think she said they’d been married like 19 yeras) with suffer some kind of catastrophic disastrous falling out – fingers crossed that won’t happen. Hey, someone new – we’ll see how it goes.
5) Was the part-time OG even on tonight, aka Vicki? I missed her if she was, but I was cleaning up the kitchen and doing dishes during the show, so may have missed her – meh, wish they just hadn’t asked her back at all – so over her. She is far more FAKE than all of them combind.
I’m sure I forgot someone – I’m exhausted and have been working OT for weeks now – we’ll see what this season brings – can’t be any more boring than last season, can it?
So excited my favorite show in the HW franchise is back and the premiere didn’t disappoint! Even more excited that production gave us our first Vicki free episode ever and I’m hopeful there’s more to come regardless of how much she filmed.
I know I seem to be in the minority on this site but I adore Kelly and loved that she had so much screen time tonight. Instantly loved Braunwyn too and I think she’s going to be a great addition to the show. Still don’t understand how Emily got a second season.
Kelly is so low class. She thinks saying vulgar things to people is so funny. Then she wants to get a cat(an animal she hates) to throw it outside to kill rats. She is a hot mess!
Agree. I don’t like her at all, she brings the showdown. This use to be a great franchise, it sucks now.
Has Kelly ever lost a bar room brawl?
Too funny!
I didn’t watch! So proud of myself. I watched Little Couple and Dance Moms. Somethings never change on Dance Moms lol.
I did catch an interview where Tamra explains that Ryan and Spencer have very different political views and that Ryan did threaten to punch his younger brother. Course Tamra blames it on that she had Ryan so young, that she couldn’t keep the lights on, and birthdays were at Chuckee Cheese. So, she knows it upsets Ryan to see how his half siblings got a better childhood. Give me a break.
I didn’t watch either. I swore off of this series after the episode where the three were in Mexico and Tamara was flashing anyone who would look and running around naked. She was saying things like “sometimes you just have to show your tits.” No, Tamara, you don’t….It was like an episode of Grandmas Gone Wild. It’s great that she has a fantastic body at 50 something but it’s about self respect. I can’t take her….She wonders why her daughter won’t return her texts? I would be completely and utterly embarrassed. She found “Jesus” yet likes transphobic comments her son makes on his Instagram account. She is the epitome of hypocrisy.
I’m still laughing at “Cause animals have been living in houses since time began”. Actually TT I laughed at a lot of your snark this morning. I look forward to your recaps.
Preparing to move is difficult to say the least. And if there’s other stuff going on, it’s even harder. Hang in there.
“USC rowing team” I am cracking up too! These “ladies” say the darndest things and TT doesn’t miss a beat. I am laughing my ass off over here in the WWWest!
That car that Kelly is driving is insanely ugly! Good God! I can only imagine how much it cost. She’s an idiot.
What’s sad is Kelly and Tamra are gorgeous but they are mean nasty evil bitches. It’s like Kelly thrives on being nasty, it makes me sick. Tamra is just dressed up trash, she and her thug son will always be victims of something and when she cries it’s so fucking fake. I did find Shannon refreshing, I do hope she stays that way. I love Emily, she shows you can be a bigger woman and be beautiful and successful, she really is one of my favorites ever. I feel like Tamra will have issues with the new one because she is hotter, and seems to be a nicer person.
I haven’t watched this show in a few years, but decided to give it a chance again last night. On a positive note, I love Tamara’s new house!
But I got distracted right off the bat by Gina, who can apparently afford (ahem) physical renovations, but won’t spend $40 to get her CRACKED iPhone screen fixed. In fact, I’m sure if she would’ve walked into the Apple Store and told them she’s an RHOC they would’ve comped it so it wouldn’t be a poor reflection of their product and brand on TV.
THIS ??that fucking phone.
I’m still laughing at “the crazy cat lady” answering the phone with an enthusiastic “MEOW”
For the longest time I couldn’t put my finger on exactly why I didn’t like Tamra. I thought it was the constant shrieking or her hypocrisy. I had stopped watching the show years ago but this weekend I watched last season and it suddenly hit me. She has mean eyes like there is no light within. Freaked me out a little. I won’t be watching again but thanks TT for your amazing recaps.?
Last season was an absolute snooze fest. Hope this season will be better. Tamra’s oldest son is vile.
I stopped watching this show awhile back. After checking it out again, I think I made the right decision to stop watching lol.
With that said, I wonder if the big change in Gina’s looks has anything to do with the (alleged) assault by her husband? I’m not sharing this to get a bunch of replies of sympathy bc it happened to me years ago and I learned to live with the long term effects and I’m just fine.
However, I was assaulted and was repeatedly hit in the head to the point of incurring a TBI. This asshole pulled me by my long hair and my hair came out of the roots. (Technical term was “traumatic alopecia”) Reconstructive surgery was required as well as wearing lots of hats and wigs for several years before hair grew back. I thankfully had insurance—- as I said it was a looong time ago.
My point is, maybe we shouldn’t judge her change in appearance so harshly. She could have a lot of swelling from surgery Post assault, and she wears hats… perhaps she decided to go platinum with a wig. I have no fucking clue. This is just a thought I had due to my own past experience. If she was married to the guy, it’s likely it wasn’t the first time and only she knows what actually happened. I would just hate to blame a victim bc it happens ALL THE TIME. Maybe this time a nose job was medically necessary? Just food for thought….
Allegedly!
Also, I would like to point out that even post head injury I know the difference between a pharaoh and a feral cat even though I’m not a cat person! None of these women are the brightest bulbs in the box to start with. And the plastic surgeon boyfriend totally skeeved me out. I really just can’t with this show! Has jumped the shark for sure!
He does seem skeevy! His office staff looked like blow up Barbies. Yikes! You’d think one look at his staff would be cause to pause on the plastic, apparently not, Kelly is tipping into the “too much” department.
I’m going to give Gina a pass for now. She is that tip of the iceberg, we don’t know what all is going on under water and what we do know isn’t good.
Does the new wife have her baby sleeping in a closet?
Kipper! Thank you I was shocked nobody mentioned it but me. That is simply crazy and so not okay.
K
It’s actually totally ok.. I have friends who did that with their little ones. We’re in OC. Her night nurse recommended it. It’s pitch dark in there. Why wouldn’t it be ok? As long as they’re safe, what’s the problem? geez
I would never have my baby sleep in a closet. This is so strange. A shoe could attack my child. A tunnel is dark, should people put their babies there too? Under the kitchen sink will be the next place, cause it’s dark! Okay.
It’s weird considering they’re in a bigger than average house. I know ppl in one bedroom and studio apartments have to do what they have to do but I was confused by that arrangement. I suppose it’s fine as long as they have eyes on the baby and the baby is happy, healthy, and thriving. Just strange to see in what appeared to be a rather large home.
I’m not making a judgment about this situation, only an observation. I never had the two way radios, my houses have been small. Both my girls were on my boob or fed in the middle the night because I heard them fuss. I’ve always lived modestly so maybe her youngest’s bedroom was far, far away? In a way, I soo get it.
Amanda, I am 99 years old and very crabby. I had to sleep with my baby in the out house toilet. So, this is a sore subject.
I’m joking. I guess people can do what they want. But, I would never do this.
Yes! I saw that too! The baby crib is in the clothing closet!
Best episode ever because it didn’t include she who shall remain nameless! You know, nameless who was in cahoots with a scammer to dupe people into cancer insurance, she who has had ridiculous amounts of horrible plastic surgery that has made her unrecognizable from season one, she who’s constant meddling drove one adult child to flee across the continental US with her husband and children to have a normal life, she who clearly is trying to marrying another man to regain her RHOC Orange. I think I’ve left out a lot like she who is clearly the worst friend ever and had it documented on film.
Good news? Shannon & her weight loss & happy life post divorce! Kelly was entertaining as always! Sad Gina is having a hard time. Tamra entertaining other than the son thing. New girl seems like a good fit. Love Emily, sorry that it seems that marriage is going down the tubes…she’s smart, witty, and I hope all goes well for her!
While all that is true, she is THE ORIGINAL HOUSEWIFE. And deserves to be on the show. There are others with much worse offense who have scammed hurricane victims out of money while promising to restore their homes, lying about jobs they don’t have to get loans they couldn’t repay. Criminal activity, prison time, etc, etc.
I am now understand why you don’t like Deloris on Jersey.
So true Tamra. Whether the fans want to admit it or not, Vickie Gulvason is THE ORIGINAL HOUSEWIFE of RHOOC, period. Not Tamara, Not Shannon, and damn sure not Kelly. And, the rest re just fillers. Across the board there have been several housewives that has done MORE egregious acts than Vickie. Get over it. I agree she deserves to be on the show more than the ones that are there now. Besides, without the OG of the OC, what in the world would Tamara, Shannon, and Kelly whine about this season?
Respect your respect of the original OG of Houswives franchise, but I just don’t feel the same way. Agree to disagree? XXOO! Hoping you don’t feel the same way about every OG of the francises? An OG. From RHOA comes to mind, who needs to be let go. As does an OG of RHONY who was let go and is desperately trying to return…sometimes the shows just have to move forward! I know you feel that way about another OG of RHOA who got her own spin off than is now a hot mess!
There is only ONE OG. It’s Vicki. The original housewife from the original franchise. All the other franchises are imitations.
Love you TT ! I get it! You make me smile all day long!
Why did they let her go?? I really am shocked.
My understanding cat’s have to see the mouse move, they don’t have instincts to hunt cats. Unless they see them, then they aren’t phased.
Learned that working at a Pet store (major one)
After watching the truly wealthy, classy, born or raised that way,( RHONY) the Orange county ladies give me a fake vibe. As if we have wanna be actresses.
First episode, we’ll see. Amazing the new faces, wow!.
Along with Jersey, they are the white trash of the housewive franchises.
It’s a good thing it’s usually sunny in OC, because most of these ladies seem to be fair-weather friends. Every season the allegiances change.
Perhaps the alien look is in vogue in OC, Tamra’s Ryan used to look like a Prepper, in his ITMs, his bald-headed look is alien scary. In the opposite vein, Shannon looks great, she looked even better on WWHL.
Dear shallow Tamra Judge — you can take the girl out of the trailer park, but … in the “to come” teaser, it looked like we will be treated to yet another Tamra running away shrieking, then shaking and sobbing in someone’s arms. Who DOES THIS!
The USC rowing team must have lots of Bravolebrities. I remember Dr. Drew being appalled on WWHL at Tamra’s lack of education. One of my pet peeves is the reality people overusing a phrase, or misusing a word (“literally, I died”) then half the nation does it. The “me” instead of “I” has crossed over to “educated” newscasters and commenters and every time I hear “squashing a rumor,” I scream “QUASH DAMMIT!” At least Kelly realized “pharaoh” didn’t sound right. (She would never make it as Shep’s GF.)
It’s bad enough we have shows about people with 45million kids on other networks, I hope it’s not the storyline for the new girl, aka “Kelly’s friend.” Shannon said on WWHL she was “awesome.” (Another overused, incorrectly used word that I hate.)
Me? I am literally “laughing out loud” to your totally awesome comment. I think I overuse these words and phrases. I’m “gonna work on that”. ???
Why can’t Tamra’s storyline be unpacking, decorating and shopping for her new home? I love the fancy stuff these shmancy HWs can deliver that I can just look at, ponder and try to knock off on a budget. Why can’t we just go to lunch? I wouldn’t take political advice from anyone on this show and I don’t want it pushed down our throats on this show or in the comments either (TT excluded, her site, her right, you don’t like? Move along).
Perhaps the alien look is a thing now, yikes! I wouldn’t mind a gobble neck fix so I am curious about Shannon’s procedure but there was too much other stuff happening in the office so I have no clue what it was that she did. As far as boobs? Things may have changed now as I’ve been off the market for a long time but check me if I’m wrong men, no matter the condition, you just want access? I’ve had a boob correction that made things “better” but not what I was really hoping for and I’ve NEVER had a complaint from day one, even though I feel they grew in wrong!
This was a fun day of catching up with my DVR and now understanding comments. I love this site TT. Even when you drag yourself to work (I get it) you bring it! Hope you and Banjo are feeling a little better tonight and tomorrow will bring you a no flea situation!
I love Tamara’s Tales too! If I need a laugh and to feel good I come and read. Helps me feel better about myself!
I worked at the Bay club and I remember Braunwyn. They are looked alike but that name is pretty memorable and her hot hubby! Anyway it’s looking to be a decent season of Vicky bashing thank you Kelly for the cocaine-gate story line, ugh!! Seriously though, please get rid of Kelly’s freebie doctor pronto, the desperation creep factor is too damn high with him. Tamra, once again your story lines are straw graspers, just please keep your weird son off this show. He was a tool years ago and still is, seems like every scene he will be in I will FF. Even Vicky’s SIL knew when to leave the show. Emily, oh dear Emily, I have nothing to say, but if I see her child kick the dog again, seriously parent that kid and stop this! Gina, gonna love your Sonja trainwreck. Let’s be real I’m only looking forward to Vicky’s wedding to see her BIL Roger Lodge doing a play by play ala Blind Date style. And, Shannon please stop the self deprecating talk, your not with the loser anymore, love your boobies!!
Vickys paid for boyfriend is on Tamras IG defending Ryan and praising Trump. His defence is that he’s a Latino so he can support Trump without being racist. If the whole season is gonna be watching these people it will be awful.
WTF happened to Gina in the confessional? Is she one Prednisone? Pregnant? Weight gain? Took me a sec to realize who it was
I don’t actually like any of the OC women. Why do I watch?
Kelly put on the schtick about the Paroah cat because her word confusions got her attention in the past – overacted.
Her boyfriend was creepy AF – like some weird business man from Get Shorty or something.
Gina looked weird. And to everyone saying ‘what has she done? She looked so pretty before’ .. no she didn’t, she troweled on the makeup with a spackfilla.
I did love Tamra’s house. Thanks for the laugh for the commenter who said Ryan looks like a pin.
The new lady’s husband is gorgeous.
Why do I watch?
I think this episode said a lot about the emotional maturity and compassion of a white male, who lives behind “double gates” that can have empathy for those that struggle vs the emotional immaturity of someone that grew up struggling and still lives off of other people’s dime (his mom’s) and yet has zero compassion.
I see this every damn day. I’m over here like fuck you karen, both your kids were on Medicaid and you collected unemployment and worked under the table for cash but you are sooooo tired of people milking the government. There is not a mirror big enough to show some people their stupidity.
I am with you about Gina’s talking heads. It had me so distracted. Still never did figure out what was wrong with it. But it didn’t look like her. I normally think she is beautiful!