This should be a fun Southern Charm Recap! Everyone except for Shep and Whitney are hitting the slopes. Plus, Naomie garnered the wrath of Aaron Rothman so he forced her to film a one-on-one with Ashley.
Madison is a great snowboarder. She got up at the crack of dawn to hit the slopes while everyone else slept in and procrastinated. While Whitney and Shep drink and huff pressurized oxygen from cans, the girls get ski lessons. The rest of the guys are apparently winging it. Oh, and Eliza has suddenly shown up out of nowhere this episode. If there was an explanation for that, I missed it.
It appears to be Kathryn’s first time on skis and lets just say she is NOT a natural. I thought Cameran said she knew how to ski, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Kathryn was just thrilled she survived the magic carpet ride up the bunny hill. Cameran laughed so hard all of them falling down while surrounded by small children doing just fine, that she peed herself. After one unsuccessful lesson and one trip down the bunny hill. The girls and Don all call it a day and head to happy hour.
A Rocky Situation
Madison, Craig and Austen are tearing up the actual mountain on snowboards. Kathryn and Danni ride the gondolas to the top of the mountain. On the way up, Danni wants to know the plans for the evening. As if taking Kathryn to the pot store was not enough, tonight a chef is coming to the house to make pot infused dinner for them. That doesn’t even sound the least bit appetizing. Not to mention, how much is Kathryn supposed to take?
I read an interview with Craig and Austen today where they pointed out that they got confused by the metric system of weighing the pot and bought way more than they could possible use on their trip. Kathryn gives a very sad talking head about the pot everywhere. She says weed is the reason she lost her kids. And the fact that no one on the trip seems the least bit sensitive to that situation is rude.
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Kathryn shows Danni a text of Whitney “inviting her over.” Actually is shows her asking if she can come over and he says sure. She was with Patricia at the time and told her not to tell her where she was going. Then there was allegedly a penis photo. Probably from his Grindr account.
Austen Rings The Bell
A popular bar on the slopes of Steamboat Springs is the T-Bar. Austen was “tricked” into ringing the bell which means he is buying shots for everyone in the bar. Or Bravo is. Austen is the guy who makes his dates pay for dinner. Austen is the guy who can’t afford to can the the beer he “invented.”
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Meanwhile Shep and Craig are mocking Austen for having fun with Madison at the bar. They just wish they had a girl on the trip with them. They are so jealous and mean. It’s like middle school all over again.
Naomie Pays A High Price for skipping the Colorado Trip
Aaron Rothman in his second of four attempts to get Ashley back on the show, forces Naomie to film with Ashley. She is not a happy camper. Ashley comes in and immediately goes in for the big hug. Um. Noe. Ashley says, SHE doesn’t want to hold a grudge. Naomie points out she called her a bitch in public in front of all of her friends. Ashley says she meant it in a good way. Ashley wants to know how to mend things with Kathryn. Naomie makes it clear that is not going to happen. Ashley says she is actually on Kathryn’s side. Um, NOE.
The Boys Get Higher Than The Rockies
Back at the houses, Shep and Austen are pregaming for their weed dinner with edibles. As one does. The cannabis chef arrives looking high as a kite. At the other house, Madison confronts Craig for always having something to say about her relationship, or lack thereof, with Austen. It’s really none of his business and he’s not privy to their situation. So he needs to stop giving them unsolicited advice. Great idea!
Back at pot central, even the wine has CBD in it! Look, I tried pot on more than one occasion back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. And I had one of two reactions. Usually, I just immediately needed to sleep. Except for that one time I was camping on Cumberland Island with a guy and all we brought with us were sleeping bags, a huge cooler of beer, some cheetos and raw hot dogs.
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It gets REALLY dark on Cumberland island and there are mountain lions and raccoons and lots of things in the trees with orange eyes. It didn’t help that the Cheetos were not carefully eaten, due to him being high. So everything on the island game to the tree we were trying to sleep under. I have never been so paranoid in my life and it was a walk of several hours back to where people were. I was stuck there. Once the sun came up, we went skinny dipping and sunbathed nekkid and then drank the beer and marched ourselves back to within ear shot of the official camping area. I don’t see the appeal of pot.
Cameran comes in and says she is not interested in the weed dinner at all. Yet she takes a sip of Chelsea’s wine with the CBD. Austen and Shep are both high as kites before dinner begins. We keep seeing Don without Eliza. I am going to have to find out what she was avoiding the cameras. Or they were avoiding her.
A Pot Peace Treaty?
Shep is being fake nice to Madison because she looks amazing her black jumpsuit. She asks him for an edible and he obliges. But for some reason this conversation has to take place in his bedroom. Shep seems to want to make up with Madison. But he wants her to admit she was just “toying with Austen.” Shep can never believe that anyone would choose Austen over him. Frankly, any female with a shred of dignity would choose pretty much anyone over Shep.
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Madison points out that Shep called her “white trash.” She says she will not tolerate that sort of behavior, Especially since he doesn’t even know her. You go girl. Madison, looks stunning tonight. That along with all of the edibles is making him more tongued-tied than usual. His response was, “Yeah, but it keep coming up!” WTF is he talking about. He says he always has to take his friends side. He never treats Austen like a friend. They are not friends. He is always mocking Austen. Madison says Shep is a bad influence. Shep says that Austen is never happy with her. Shep says a ton more shit. Then he apologizes. Madison will think about accepting it.
Pot Leaf Runners Adorn The Dinner Table
I feel like I am getting a contact high just watching this dinner. There is a debate over whether they should say a blessing over the drug infused dinner. Then nays win. Kathryn is not amused by any of this. Austen is supposedly the person who scheduled the pot chef. Kathyrn was actually very subtle in telling him she felt he should have run it past her. If I were in her situation, I wouldn’t eat bite of anything even thought the chef only put the CBD in the optional dressings. Allegedly. It’s not worth the risk, and kind of shitty of production. But, hey, it’s Haymaker. They are also trying to make her have run-ins with Ashley.
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Once again, I don’t see Eliza at the table. I know Haymaker had to go back and do a lot of post-production edits. Are they purposely wiping her from the cast? I’m not complaining. It’s just kind of weird.
Kathryn Finally Becomes Triggered
Kathryn checks her phone at the dinner table only to discover that on WWHL Whitney has called Kathryn a “drug addict violent sociopath.” Ut oh. This will not end well. And it was said in front of Cameran and Landon so this has to be really old. Right? And it is. Apparently, Kathryn was looking back at what these people said about her at the time her world was falling apart. Whitney has always been a snake. Kathryn gets up and goes outside. Just as the script calls for. She heads back to her house next door. Only Craig goes to check on her.
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When Craig comes back to the table a lot of people are high. They laugh when Craig tells them why Kathryn left. Cameran is laughing too. Is she high too or just a bitch? Craig finally shames Whitney into going to talk to Kathryn. Whitney finds Kathryn sitting outside in the dark. She doesn’t want to speak to him. He leaves. She probably just wanted to smoke without the cameras.
On next weeks Southern Charm recap. Austen tells Madison he wants them to be like this all the time. Madison says that is not enough. Shep continues to drive a wedge between Austen and Madison. Madison threatens to expose what Shep is really angry about. Austen says something that make Danni cry.
P.S. I have no idea why this recap took so long. Other than I felt stoned just watching this.
Is Eliza making pro T Rav comments like she did in her debut scene ? That’s the only thing I can think of as to why production is not giving her screen time. Ashley is so completely extra. No one wants to see her kind of crazy. Haymaker must think she’s a ratings booster. Hardly. I leave the room when she appears. When she finally snaps Haymaker is in for quite the payday. Tabloids pay big bucks when infamous people implode.
High Shep is actually funny. I enjoyed tonight’s episode. It felt lighter than usual. I don’t really believe weed is Kathyrn’s main issue. I liked how Craig argued for Whitney to go check on Kathyrn—he will be a good lawyer one day.
He will never be a lawyer. He may have been a good one but I think that is long gone. He is trying to make his own “mailbox” money.
ONCE MORE WITH FEELING! Craig does not want to be a lawyer. There is nothing wrong with that. He passed the bar, he does probono work, he has a successful business selling basic pillows for $60 .He has a manufacturer, he is expanding his line to other things.
This site is not for people who fall for the produced story lines. Craig has multiple property investments in Charleston and a well balanced portfolio. He lives in the houses he flips during filming. And he spends his off season in the Bahamas. He is so not concerned about the people who buy into the storyline of the show that pays him six figures a year for five months work, plus appearance fees and everything else.
If he wants to settle down and practice law later, he has that option. But he is nothing like Shep and his mailbox money. He has his own company, the income from the show, a law license, and numerous appearance fees. AND HE IS PRACTICING LAW part time as a pro bono lawyer.
Were you making mid six figures when you were barely thirty?
Also – I don’t know about the other cast members, but Craig is the only one I see doing charity work on his IG. I don’t know if the others actively do and don’t publicize, but as far as I’m concerned, yay for Craig.
It’s always bugs me the way they try and make Craig look like a chump on this show. For the last 3-4 seasons its like they just want him to be this oaf like character and it’s always annoyed me. I guess he doesn’t mind playing into it, it gives him a secure paycheck. However when Shep named his dog after Craig that irked me too. It’s like the cast gets off on mocking him all the time.
agree! and then they wonder why he finally has a Bitch fit with them all…
@sabrinatoo The word on the street from a friend of mine from Charleston who knows Craig says that he is a really nice guy.
I was making about $23k a year in my twenties in the 80’s, fortunately, I did much better by my thirties and forties! I adore Craig, I’d tap that in a minute.
I knew about Craig’s other income streams, but not about the Bahamas, no wonder he was so tanned at the start of this season!
and he’s the most f**kable.
What kind of world do we live in where you could be a full on alcoholic and keep your children but heaven forbid you smoke some weed?
A full blown alcoholic who spent time in Federal prison for cocain use and distribution! Who the hell did he bribe to convince the courts to drug test Kathryn? The rich get away with murder in this country.
What has Ashley Jacobs done to her face? It looks like nose job, too much cheek filler and Botox. Wow. Her face doesn’t move. How old is she?
I was thinking the same thing about Ashley’s face. She’s definitely had work done, but at least she doesn’t look anorexic anymore. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
She’s not anorexic. She lost like eighty pounds in one season. She’s either on coke and adderall or Thomas bought her several surgeries.
Austen and Madison need to not listen to Shep, he is jealous and it is plain to see and it’s not a good look. I’m am really disappointed in them doing all the pot scenes seeing as how Kathryn has had legal and custody issues with it, as her friends you’d think they would have considered that and toned shit down at least. I love Kathryn’s skiing get up, she killed it with the ear muffs! I kind of like Eliza’s boyfriend, could do without her, can we keep Don? Please? I can’t believe what a douche Whitney is, I think he looks better this season than in season 1 but he is still icky. I love that Craig could snow board and there was Shep not even trying. I love dani!
Shep had injured his knee shortly before this trip–that is why he couldn’t ski with them.
I don’t think Kathryn’s Issues are just with pot and I leave it at that.
I agree, Kathryn blaming weed for her problems is disingenuous.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
It is pissing me off greatly how they keep saying that, when you KNOW she was doing coke, which is a completely different thing.
I actually really liked Shep when he was high.
Pot is your friend, not an enemy. Idiots.
Do not understand why this show is acting like such prudes about it, it’s beyond ridiculous,
Pot is legal in my state and I have no issue with it at all, they are from the south when it’s still ”satans lettuce” and EVIL. I can’t wven begin to tell you about all the elderly people who frequent the pot shops for edibles and such. I use an amazing rub for my muscle that’s all CBD. Here it’s not a big deal at all.
Thank you!! 💜💙💜
It’s ridiculous and to keep vilifying it and making it seem like that’s the reason, is disingenuous and plain stupid. It’s a wonder plant that helps many people. Kathryn should be honest about it. You were a coke head who smoked weed once in a while.
If she started with it and did nothing else, she would have been fine!
I completely agree that it is a wonder plant and it is here for us to USE.
Thomas can “vilify” it BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL in South Carolina! I totally agree with all of yall of its benefits but some states are slow to game! apparently coke gets out of your system faster than pot so he tested clean and she didn’t of ILLEGAL drugs…I love Kathryn and want only the best for her and those kids! Thomas is, allegedly,
beyond a horrible person and psycho…
Pot is not the friend for many recovering addicts, they use it and it can take them right back to their drug of choice. Within a short period of time they’re back on the merry go round again. It’s fucking hard getting sober around people smoking pot and drinking. I tried to do it in the dorms in college circa 1983-85 and as much as friends said they wanted to support my sobriety, they would forget or not care and smoke pot and drink around me. Or my friends would have parties and not invite me because they weren’t sure what to do. It was confusing for them too, I’m sure. It was a very lonely time, getting sober is very hard and she’s under constant scrutiny. I can’t even imagine.
It’s truly AMAZING how all the potheads KNOW what Kathryn’s drug issues were. Or that she took a hair test multiple times. Apparently, being high all the time gives you some sort of deep insight into other people’s drugs of choice.
First of all said “I didn’t think that was her problem”, as much as we don’t like Thomas others havealso made some serious allegations. Secondly, I’m not a pothead, never smoked in my life. With everything you have researched and heard from your sources, do you think that was the only reason she lost her kids?
I was not refering to you specifically, just all the potheads who think getting sky high like Shep everyday is just fine now that it is legal. The only thing Kat tested positive for in her initial court mandated drug test was pot. So she did indeed go to rehab for pot.
I guess you’re right, if she had stuck with the drugs that leave your system faster she’d have been golden.
My apologies.
I’m just curious, I know what’s happening with this show and producer driven story lines, but do you think Its getting worst?
I really used to like Shep, but this season he has been such an entitled elitist pompous ass!!! He’s been sooo condescending to everyone who is “beneath” him. What has he actually accomplished? He lives and behaves and has even less of a sense of responsibility as a fraternity brother, a 20 yr old spoiled little rich kid. Ugh!!!!
I certainly found it more than a little ironic that Madison was confronting him about the “white trash” comment while he was higher than a kite . . .
In other words, Shep may be proud of his Boykin pedigree, but he does not wear it well.
CBD won’t get you high. It comes in different concentrations and I’ve tried them all for my back. I haven’t found it very effective but, I don’t have average back issues. It’s not like edibles which I hate. I actually don’t like weed in general but, ingesting it was one of the worst experiences of my life. I wouldn’t have sat down to that dinner either. The ski lesson was fun though!
I was thinking the same thing, but there are CBD/TCH hybrid products. I wasn’t sure which one the chef used, but it seems like the girls had been told it was just regular. CBD.
Most CBD products have some level of THC in them. Thus the concentrations I was referring to, I should have said ratio. But, none of them will get you high. I was specifically talking about the CBD wine. I wouldn’t go near whatever that chef was cooking! That was straight up THC and it would F me up. Sorry I wasn’t clear. Lack of sleep got the better of me.
Whitney’s Cheech and Chong comment just laid me out. Austen and Shep were the best buffoons. And…hoping Cameran changed those peed in pants.
What I cannot understand is why Austen set up a meal Cameran had no interest in. Wasn’t this her trip?
As for Kathryn, wouldn’t she get high from the cooking and infused smells? Contact high? I was in line at the bakery near Estes this spring, and the stoner behind me reeked so much I got dizzy. Today’s pot is nothing like 70’s skunk weed.
I always wondered who bought those over priced cans of oxygen to help acclimate to altitude. Now I know: Shep and Whitney. You need 72 hours to really acclimate around Steamboat. I know, they were only there 2 days and were drunk (which makes altitude sickness worse).
Oh, in the opening, 2 people woke up and the girl took out a retainer (?), grossing out tbe guy. Who was that?
I did enjoy the stoners, to be honest. And for the life of me, why would Kathryn look up crap from 3 years ago? She needed to remember what Whitney thought of her BEFORE she (allegedly) slept with him.
It was Eliza and Don Eliza took out her retainer
Go back and look there were teeth on that retainer. Weird! Looked like false teeth.
Ok just did slow mo-
She has no back teeth or something. She has a set of dentures.
You are right, dentures. Those micro scenes are always cool. I am still trying to figure out why Shep got angry at Madison for eating a whole gummy. Maybe just s control issue for him.
I don’t think he was angry …I think it was like “DAYUM girl…you just ate a WHOLE one?” she is a little thing and I think he knew more about how strong they are than she might have known? That is why he “high”-fived her….
OMG you’re right I just watched it again oops I thought it was a retainer my bad
I always thought those 99.9% air canisters were bs… until my most recent trip to Denver. I’ve never had multiple drinks while in the city and had 3 martinis over the course of 5 hours. I woke up at 5 AM puking my guts out and didn’t stop until 2pm when the pharmacist recommended I try one. I felt better within 10 minutes. I don’t even care if it was a placebo affect.
Also, it’s extremely rare to get a contact high. I read something recently that such little THC is emitted into the air when a smoker exhales, that it would take being in closed in a room while 16 joints were being smoked for you to even begin feeling a little high. That being said, the smoke itself probably does affect people who are already sensitive to it.
Your comment makes sense. Altitude sickness is awful. I don’t use the canisters, but I would if I was drinking.
I am probably hyperallergic to cannabis, so being around it makes me feel odd. Just like being near strong perfumes.
An expert explained THC vs CBD to me. The plants have varying levels of each compound. In order to get extracts with medical grade CBD for childrens’ issues, first you get a low THC strain. THC can be removed from marijuana, leaving the CBD, but as a medical treatment, you have to start with a low THC plant. THC gets people high. CBD is the nerve relaxant.
also I have seen “Oxygen Bars” in non altitude city malls to help negate “hangover” issues…isn’t this kinda the same thing?
Isn’t it production who sets up these trips for them? Not whatever cast member is purportedly the host? So Kathryn should be mad at production for the weed dinner, not Austen, right?
I think Eliza was at the table. Don was at one end, and Eliza was to his left.
The whole Kathryn/Whitney story line is just bizarre to me. Why is Kathryn wanting to repeat so often that they hooked up over the summer? I find it really hard to believe that happened, but if it did, it seems like a gentleman wouldn’t kiss and tell. I can’t help but notice that Kathryn sleeps with the rich guys–Thomas, Shep, Whitney–but not with the one guy who is truly kind to her but doesn’t have the money of the others: Craig.
Yes of course production sets this all up. Yes the Kathryn and Whitney thing i beyond bizarre. It is all storyline and Craig is a bad actor.
No, I think Craig just has higher standards 😉
I am not a Craig fan. Despite all he spouts I think he is an arrogant lazy jerk. Kathryn isn’t sober and acts all hurt Whitney doesn’t shout from the roof tops he slept with her or that how dare Austen not consult her about the pot dinner. She’s slept with most of the cast and still considers herself a lady?
Ashley is doing herself zero favors. She needs to move on. Clearly being with Thomas was a health hazard. I said all along Thomas feeds the woman he is with drugs, alcohol, and fills them with negative stories about others.
Wait, so you’re measuring how much of a lady she is by counting the men she sleeps with?
That’s not fair.
Complete double standard for sure
What I am saying, is that Kathryn loves to kiss and tell. To the point that if you don’t agree you slept with her she runs off offended. I never thought she was some innocent young waif that got caught up in Thomas’s spell. She knew exactly what she wanted and wanted to make sure by any means possible she got it. Well, it backfired.
This was actually a fun episode, except Kathryn feeling uncomfortable around the pot. Unlike Luann, Kathryn has Thomas and all his friends watching her every move..some of which were on the trip with her.
Also why is Madison with Austen? She could do a million times better.
I’ve wondered why Madison is with Austen also. And why Chelsea ever dated him. I don’t see his appeal at all.
Can someone tell me… what’s the deal with the false teeth on Eliza?
I am “hoping” maybe she has “ordered” some implants or crowns and she is waiting for them? I think Naomie refusing to go on the trip made Eliza a sub that she(production) did not intend on? What do you think TT?
Eliza was given the full cast mate photo this season. So I reached out to my source who told me that when Haymaker went back in to try to improve the show in post production, Eliza was edited out of a lot of things because her story arc didn’t work out. AKA she was unable to integrate Ashley into the group as Rothman so departmentally wanted.
So she was demoted to friend mid season? I thought I saw her in the cast photo and then she was only in a couple of episodes.
Poor Naomi and that producer guy must be some kind of special asshole. Ashley is horrible TV.
Southern Charm was tanking in ratings in the first few episodes, so Bravo had Haymaker make lots of changes post production. Part of those changes (sadly for Rothman) was too downplay the whole RETURN OF ASHLEY shit. So since that was the whole point of bring Eliza tothe forefront, they wiped her out of a lot of the rest of the series. So clearly she was THERE for everything and given a main cast gig, Bravo wanted to change direction and so she was wiped out of a lot of scenes.
TT- great recap! When Katherine walked out during dinner I loved it when Craig asked Whitney something like”What will it cost you to check on friend when she is upst?” I thought that was amazing. Whitney had no answer.
I’ll start by saying this is my favorite show and I genuinely like and enjoy the entire cast. I have always given Shep a lot of leeway for his behavior, but I found nothing fun or appealing about him during the dinner. High or not, he was obnoxious, silly, with deplorable table manners. All I could think about was how proud his parents must be (not!). Craig redeemed himself for his tantrums through his concern for Kathryn – I was disappointed none of the others who passed on the weed were sensitive to her situation. I know some have commented that her behavior implies more than weed as the cause of her problems, but let’s not forget the mental health issues she’s dealing with, too. Those issues are a daily struggle.
Shep’s table manners are the worst. He is a slob, chews with his mouth open (and talks the entire time). Reminds me of boarding school boys of my youth — not enough mothering to give them manners. Most outgrew it.
Shep gave anti-cannabis ppl plenty of ammunition with his over the top antics but it was still better than drunk Shep, which honestly isn’t saying much.
My 135lb self could smoke all these chumps under the table. Yes, I’m proud of that. And gummies/edibles have legit never had an effect on me. I wish they did because I’m super jealous seeing everyone stoned-to-the-bone during these episodes.
Unpopular opinion? I’m just not a fan of Kathryn and her fake storylines. I admire her for getting out of a crap situation and doing her very best.
She doesn’t seem like a super good friend. It seems like her friends, especially Danni, always give her more than she’s willing to give them. I’ve had friends like her and it’s like walking on eggshells waiting for her to rage out and cut us all off.
And this whole “I lost my kids to weed” bullshit is too much. At her “lowest point” she smoked weed? I’m thinking there was a substance involved and weed was simply there to bring her down from that. I remember Andy’s reaction 2 (?) reunions ago – “you went to rehab for weed?” Exactly Andy, exactly! As a stoner, there’s enough judgement against the drug she shouldn’t make it out to be any worse than everyone doing shots and drinking beer around her as she maintains “sobriety.”
Last unpopular opinion… Ashley looked really beautiful in her scene. She’s a fuckin’ psycho who needs 3500 cc’s of self awareness STAT but her scene didn’t bother me nearly as much as Kathryn’s fake storylines and the bro-downs between Craig, Shep, and Austen. But at least home girls craziness and delusion is 100000% real and not made up.
Finally, I agree TT. Madison was a boss bitch this episode and her “white trash” self put Shep right in his place. While looking smokin’ hot too!
agree…Snail…but I would go for 3500 cc’s of Thorazine for Ashley…Kathryn is lucky to have Danni and Madison from Gwynnes in her corner…I think she knows but struggles with stuff…at LEAST I do think she tries to do right by her kids…which sad to say I do not think the baby daddy does…
Dear God,
Please send me a beautiful, sensitive and thoughtful man like Craig.
Eliza and Don have been on this trip the entire time. They were at the airport and on the bus. Eliza was the one at the table who suggested saying the blessing and then when no one did, she is the one who said they would go to the church when they returned home.
Way to entirely miss the point.
So I know this is late, but my husband just watched and in the texts Whitney said “come for a drink”. I didn’t read all the posts so this could have been pointed out before. But given Kathryn being sober/not drinking….
So sad this season is blah for the most part. Craig is the best. He’s just so pure and he keeps getting more adorable every season while the other guys are circling the drain. Seriously, how could they not mention a stoner dinner to Kathryn? Damn I wish I was in a legal state! When visiting, I love partaking. Knowing exactly what you’re getting takes the anxiety of having a bad reaction away for me. I’m not into smoking random strains just to get high. I support cannabis and CBD as medicine 100% and believe recreational cannabis use should be legal as well.