Onward and upward to tonight’s RHONY recap. I think it will be a lot more dramatic than the Southern Charm recap I just finished.
So, it’s the morning of day three of the RHONY Miami trip. And it has been a very eventful three days. An ambulance was called for Sonja, Ramona appears to be screwing Mario again, Tinsley’s always crying and Luann’s ego knows no bounds. That’s been a lot for Bethenny, Barbara and Dorinda to cope with. Everyone is either still drunk or hungover except for Barbara. And maybe Luann.
Bethenny talks to Tinsley in bed about Sonja’s drinking. Sonja stomped the top of glass table on the patio the previous evening. It was almost two nights in a row of having to call an ambulance. Bethenny wants to share her concerns with Sonja regarding her drinking.
An AA Meeting With The Countess At High Noon
Bethenny finds Sonja in the bed with Ramona. I don’t feel like this needs to be a group talk. When Luann wanders in to the scene I have no hope for this going anywhere. Bethenny is great at interventions. Luann is great at being condescending and lacking compassion. Somehow Sonja agrees to go to an AA meeting with the Luann.
Tinsley met a guy at the party the night before name Brett. I think Bethenny may have introduced them. As Tinsley and Bethenny are discussing him, Ramona walks in asking about the same guy. This has to be staged. These women can’t all be sharing the same half a dozen dicks. When Ramona tries to horn in on Brett, Tinsley pulls up the TMZ story about Ramona making out with Harry Dubin. There is a photo of them sucking face recently. Like REALLY sucking face.
Odd (Wo)man Out
I hate how Barbara is ostracized from everything. Ramona and sadly Bethenny come for Barbara when she tells the group she feels left out. Ramona starts screaming at Barbara for having a negative energy. That’s some major projection there. I can’t believe Bethenny is on the wrong side of this discussion. They make Barbara cry. She feels like she is not wanted and offers to just go home. Bethenny’s compassion toward Barbara doesn’t extend very far. But she’s the only one who even gave a tiny bit of sympathy to her.
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Despite the fact that they are staying in an amazing villa with a gorgeous pool, they all pile in the car to go to a fancy hotel pool for lunch. Sonja and Luann get out of their meeting and head to the pool. On the car ride there, you can tell that the meeting really made Sonja depressed. I think Sonja is a lot like me. Everyone else’s sad stories resonate and bring me down. And frankly, they never stop coming. I’m in the middle of several stressful events and I cannot be the therapist for everyone else. Luann on the other hand apparently views her AA meetings as a performance with a captive crowd.
Sonja is in a bad way. It’s raining. She just had to spend an hour with Lu in AA. The cabana is wet and sandy. She’s having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. This whole outing seems miserable. Sonja starts sobbing and wants to go back to the hotel. Only Bethenny seems to get that something triggered her at the meeting. Sonja cries and admits that the meeting was hard for her. She’s feeling alone. She’s worried about raising her daughter without a father. Everyone is being sweet to her, Bethenny gets their lunch order to go. Luann is oblivious to the entire situation and just wants someone to go swimming with her. Everyone goes back to the house except for Luann. She goes for a swim.
Look At Me!
After her peaceful swim time on the beach, Luann heads over to The Fillmore to see her poster for her cabaret show. I recall her posting about that show a lot on social media. So while much of this truffle fries and cabaret posters episode was heavily produced. I think most of the Luann stuff is really Luann being Luann. Back at the house, the girls are suddenly nice to Barbara.
When Luann comes back to the house, she has another blow up with Sonja. She just doesn’t get it. She accuses Sonja of attention seeking. So much projection on this episode.
I now see why Tinsley can’t get a man. On her first date with the guy from the night before, she gets drunk. She brings up her arrest, her mugshot, her frozen embryos, her overbearing mother and tells her age. Somehow the guys still makes out with her at the end of her date.
The Inevitable Breakdown of Bethenny
Eventually, everyone arrives for dinner at the same place Tinsley had her date for drinks. Luann of course was on her on personal timetable. So Ramona agreed to go check on her and ended up getting left behind with her. Then Luann ignored her the whole ride while checking for comments about herself on social media. When they got to the restaurant, Luann went on to find the group and left Ramona behind. Then she complained about being the last to get a massage and not having a hairdresser to give her a blowout. Oh the entitlement.
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Apparently, Barbara is wearing her big girl panties to dinner. She confronts Luann about how she hasn’t had her back. She reminds her that when she was in rehab, she stopped her whole life to be there for whatever she needed. And she feels unappreciated.
The other girls all chime in a bit about how Barbara was so focused on supporting Lu she didn’t get time to bond with the group. Tinsley who is drunk has found her voice as well. She slurs over one of her words and Luann mocks he for it. That. Set. Bethenny. OFF.
I can’t even recap what I am watching. I’ve never seen Bethenny lose it quite like this. All the girls point out that Luann is self-absorbed. That she never checks in on them. They look out for Lu and it is not reciprocated. Luann wants to leave. But Bethenny goes buck wild. I could not pull a decent screencap of this because Bethenny was whirling around so fast unleashing on Luann with all her might. Dennis dies and Luann never once asked how she was.
I’m fascinated by the other patrons. They have to be paid extras because they are not reacting to this at all.
Bethenny lists all the help she has given Luann. And it’s a lot. And Luann has never so much as said thank you. Ramona is sobbing for some reason. She says it is because her heart is breaking for Bethenny. But I am not sure Ramona is capable of empathy.
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Bethenny’s breathing is very erratic. She breaks down sobbing. I think a lot of this is about Dennis.
Next week, we pick back up mid-panic attack. The girls head back to NYC. Luann records a new song. Bethenny checks out Dorinda’s new apartment.
This episode was gut wrenching & for once it seems not overtly produced. I felt extremely bad for Bethanny. Luanne will be gutted like a mackerel at this upcoming reunion. Me thinks she will go the way of Carole Radziwill. Never a bright idea to turn on Bethanny. Bye Countess see you in the tabloids. Great recap. I wish you would purple pen the Luanne & Bethanny verbal exchange. Vicious. I stopped baking cookies in the kitchen to sit down for that soliloquy.
I’d love to see the purple pen on that scene. I’m going to have to watch it again. Something about Luann running in a field?
It was jaw droppingly scandalous !
Running in a field with only negligee on …. yikes
She almost crashed a boat and killed her friends, got rehab for free but left early to do her show but not before the police took her when she ran in a field in her negligee…Bethany also had lawyers at her home on a Sunday, so there is SO SO SO much that has been kept hush on Lu and I don’t blame Bethany one bit for being so upset. She spent the last month before Dennis died focused on saving Lu it sounds like to me and that is just rough Lu is acting the way she is. I always liked Lu but she needs some serious help and there is nothing wrong with that but she is hurting people that care about her and she is damn lucky she has them for now anyway. It broke my heart when she said of Barbra “was my friend.” Lu you are being a cunt.
I think that Bethany feels bad because she focused on and saved the wrong person from their addiction problem.
Luann was given everything and is ungrateful. Bethany focused on Luann and as a result Bethanymissed helping dennis who truly had her back and he died.
Bingo.
Agree! I felt bad for Bethenny, but at the same time was glued to it wanting her to eviscerate Lu. I hate Lu this season. Her entitlement truly is insufferable. I’m glad Bethenny let it all fly about Lu almost crashing the boat, running in the field, etc. There’s nothing entertaining about watching LuAnn look down her nose at everyone.
Well said. Lu has never been someone who put others before herself (someone had to go last for a massage, why would she think that person isn’t her) but she has been insufferable. Bathenny called right. I don’t think I would want to be in any AA meeting she attends.
when a person of … like Luanne, she is such a bad example, attends AA meeting, sitting and sharing, many of the everyday people feel better about themselves. The person who is “special” is elevated in that setting also. They are looked up at, often with a hero type worship. Maybe JoFlo or someone will explain this better than I did. I’m so impatient recently
That was hard to watch
I think Luann is not as oblivious as she comes across I think she knew very well Sonja wanted to leave and she was angry and didn’t care. Acting aloof is a defense I think Luann is one angry lady
I agree. Luann seemed enraged tonight. Her face and voice were scary tight when she was talking with Ramona. She’s always been insufferable to me with her whole entitlement shtick, but this is just beyond. She was barely keeping a lid on her anger.
I was listening to the show not really watching but I think you are spot on. Rage fueled Luanne tonight. I think she just Kelly B ‘d herself off the show. Cabaret will not be paying for her Cabernet much less her lifestyle.
I’m really liking Bethenny this season and it’s making me rethink the whole feud between her and Carole. There aren’t enough superlatives to explain how self righteous and narcissistic Luann is. For some reason I started thinking about her poor kids cursed with a mom who can’t see out of her own asshole. Tinsley, tinsley, tinsley. She would be perfect for Patti Stanger’s show! I loved Tinsley at the dinner though. How awful must Luann be for Tinsley to jump into the fray.
I thought of her kids this evening, too. In the first or second season, I remember her son, he was about 10 at the time, begging his mother to stay home. But she had to go out and meet her 20-something niece for drinks at some hip downtown joint. Not saying she should stay home every night but it was sort of presented as if she went out many nights.
Does anyone think Luann wanted Sonja to change because she was afraid Sonja looked sexier than her? It seemed as if Luann just wanted the undivided attention.
Oh, COMPLETELY.
Agree! I mean it’s Miami FFS! What was wrong with the way Sonja was dressed????
The way Luann was dressed for an AA meeting was insane! See-through skirt with a slit up to cooch.
No I think Luann was gently trying to tell her there’s basically destitute, recovering alcoholics and you wouldn’t want to be dressed in a see through crop top at that meeting. Genuinely think she was looking out for her.
And then Lu came down in a strapless outfit with a sheer skirt. Unbelievable.
Lu has been terrible this season but I do see the difference here. Lu was covered and ok for Miami while Sonja was wearing basically a bikini top and it was prob not appropriate. I get it this time anyway. I do think the struggle to fight for attention between Sonja and Lu is non stop. I think they BOTH hate giving each other a chance to be a star even in an AA meeting sadly. Sonja was over the top and taking all of the attention at Lu’s rehearsal so that pissed Lu off and she spread the rumor Sonja was on drugs, which she kind of seemed like. I think Lu and Sonja fight for the limelight. Romana used to do this also but has really stopped this season anyway.
Well said about everything…. and I do agree that the bikini top was too much for an AA meeting. It looked more distracting than Luann’s skirt.
Every episode I’m thinking LuAnn cant look any worst and Im constantly being proven wrong….
I haven’t even read the recap yet because I like to read them the next day, but I just watched and I have to say I am loving Tinsley this season! Not that I didn’t like her before, but I thinking she is holding her own and saying a lot of truths!
***wine typo I meant think
wine typos are always welcome here. 🙂
I agree. LuAnn had to have been more hideous than what we saw on camera (if that’s possible) for Tinsley to feel the need to jump in. I think Bethenny is helping her get her confidence back
When you reach the levels where one person is being told by Ramona that she isn’t empathetic, and another person has Ramona crying quietly because she is sincerely feeling your pain…. you are one fucked up bitch.
I feel like I couldn’t catch my breath when Bethenny finally let loose. I saw the previews and I thought it was just a drunken rant per usual from HW. But while she was clearly in distress, every point she made to Luann was concise and crystal and SCREAMED the truth.
Oh, and you mentioned that B didn’t seem as sympathetic to Barbara. I think two things (1) it was clearly at the level Barbara needed it to be and (2) that was Bethenny’s FOURTH intervention (for lack of a better word). She confronted Luann when she arrived, in Luann’s room. She assisted Sonja with the EMTs the first night, steered her clear of an accident on the second night, and staged a small intervention in the AM. (and shocker, Ramona was supportive and did the right thing in being quiet, only briefly interjecting loving support. I was stunned). Then she was working on Tinsley, and getting her back in the saddle so to speak and getting her to not call or dwell on Scott. Then, of course, Barbara.
No wonder she finally lost her shit. It isn’t like she was even a year into her grieving process and her custody stuff was gearing up with the fucking asshole Jason.
The audacity of Luann to accuse her of “bullying” and turning it into a mockery of B STRONG??? She really is an absolute shitty person. I knew she was with the jab at Carole and her not having children… but this is even beyond that.
That any of these screaming harpy cuntwaffles think only LuAnn is a self absorbed diva is laughable. Sonja IS an attention whore, ffs. Bethenney is always screeching over everyone and we know about Dorinda the Slurinda and Ramona the Rude Selfish Bitch. JFC I shouldn’t have watched the show when I’m already annoyed.
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Please! Did you watch the same show!
That may be true but those four are still more tolerable than Lu
Agree total,y Bella Donna. I might have taken the Exorcist routine by Beth seriously if she did not do this same rage filled freak out at least once every season and then at the reunion for good measure. It is an old stand by of BF to start spewing until she makes herself sick, and eviscerates a few bystanders. Meh.
I thought Bethany and Dennis had broken up and she hadn’t seen him for like three weeks prior to his od. I read she was already dating someone else. I remember thinking Dennis was really crazy about her, and I hoped it really was an accident and not suicide. Of course she would still be upset, but they had broken their engagement. If I’m wrong someone let me know.
Bethenny and Dennis broke up all the time. When they were off, Bethenny dated others including this new guy.
Thanks, I thought so.
Out of all the chaos, I really felt bad for Barbara. She hasn’t really been my favorite but I think she’s just too normal for this group. The hurt look she gave when Lu said “was my friend” was tryly gut-wrenching.
Oh, I missed that comment because LuAnn because so much was happening . I have to rewatch this episode without interruptions.
Yeah, it’s at the end of the episode when everyone is confronting Lu
Watching Beth have a full-on panic attack brought back many painful memories. Even while she is melting down, her mind is still top notch— “Life is NOT a cabaret.” The thing that pissed me off the most was LuAnn dismissively saying “Look at you.” (No. Look at YOU in your negligee running through a field, bitch.)
I think this has been brewing inside Beth for a while (obviously) but I think that subconsciously Beth picked up on some cues that Lu was secretly drinking and realizing that she had done so much for Lu while Dennis was going through his shit, along with Lu’s lack of empathy … it was too much.
Knowing now that Lu was drinking while having her SPECIAL ALCOHOLIC haughtiness and her treatment of Barbara make it even worse.
I think Bethany has a lot of guilt. She basically was saying that while spending all of this time trying to help someone who didn’t appreciate it, she could have been helping Dennis.
After seeing her help Luann, help Sonja,help Barbara and HELP ALL VICTIMS EVERYWHERE for the past several years, you don’t think she tried to help Dennis? Shame on you.
I think maybe she has survivors guilt anyway? Like maybe she thinks she didn’t do enough to save him, even if in reality she did all she could? Losing someone to an overdose is so hard. My heart hurt for Bethany tonight.
And shame on Luann for not being as good of a friend to Bethany during her time of need as Bethan was to Luann during hers.
I thought they were temporarily separated when he died and the separation was based on his issues. If my recollection is correct, I totally understand Betthany’s emotions. It would be a real roller coaster of grief and undeserved guilt.
No, I absolutely think she tried to help Dennis but you can hear when it began that she did all of this for Lou Ann while her boyfriend was overdosing and is now underground. IMO Luanne is not grateful and it sounded as though they were separated when this happened and B just wishes she was there then instead of with Luanne. That’s all
i agree. some people say mean drunk. luanne is a mean sober. has always been a
terrible mother. i have to scream when she says anything about being a mom as well.
or saying something to someone who does not have kids. bitch. yeah, like trying to steal
her kids house. bethanny having to talk to her kids, while crazy ass is having a melt down.
she owes bethanny and barbara her life. bet she never even sent a card of sympathy for
the loss of dennis. boyfriend, good friend, or important person in B’s life. or sent flowers
w/ a thank you card to both b’s. i would have to knock her out.
I was thinking it was the manner in which he died
He overdosed and Luann is an alcoholic who can give herself alcohol poisoning and die and she doesn’t seem to care. It’s hard for Bethany to watch much less go through again seeing that she tried to help Luann and it was all for naught and she couldn’t help Dennis in the same way to preserve his life.
this….
When Bethenny first asked Luann, “When did you ever check on me about Dennis?” Luann should have realized right then. Instead, she said, “When did you check on ME?” Unbelievable! Bethenny’s guy died. There is no comparison. I was so shocked at Luann’s selfish blindness. And all the things Bethenny said . . . Wow! Luann was more of a mess than we knew (even after the arrest), and Bethenny did way more for her than we knew. And now Luann is an entitled ingrate.
I loved the handful of times Tinsley chimed in–just speaking the truth calmly and calling out Luann.
Luann clearly thought of the people at the AA meeting as just an audience who should listen to her, while Sonja was really touched and saddened by their stories.
In the preview, Luann says she’s going to go out. What?? Why doesn’t she just go back to the house, to her room.
As always, I am so curious to know how Luann feels when she watches this back. Can she see now how utterly awful she is?
Ramona saying that until a girl has a ring on her finger, it is fair game to try to steal her guy was shocking. What a lousy friend she is! I think that because she felt rejected by Mario, now she wants to “win” over another girl by getting the guy they are both interested in. She was practically gleeful looking at the TMZ picture of herself kissing Harry.
It’s narcissism 101. Their issues are always worse. Narcissists should NEVER have children. They never put their needs first like when Alex begged his mom not to go out so much. She didn’t even feel bad
“Luann clearly thought of the people at the AA meeting as just an audience who should listen to her, while Sonja was really touched and saddened by their stories.”
100% yes! That is exactly what happened. Luann wants adoring fans hanging on her every word. AA is just another place to really tell her “story”. To renact. To be the star. GTFO.
In AA, when a recovering alcoholic says they “went out” or are gonna “go out” , it means they drank or they are going to drink.
Bethenny is an actress!! And she turns on everyone!! She had
basically dumped Dennis, and had all those younger guys in the wing!! And for that matter, none of these over aged, over paid females are friends! They will cut your heart for a dollar! Everyone calls out Luann for being so full of herself!! What about Bethenny? All she does is pose in her Skinnygirl clothers, hawk the rest of her line, and portray herself as the greatest mother in the world!! And for someone who bitched about the fact that she never had a decent relationship with her father, and put on all that crap when he died, she sure as hell can’t wait to remove Hoppy from Breyn’s life!!! Remember, that sweet little girl is his too!!! Maybe he doesn’t want her to become another Bethenny, and I don’t blame him!! But Bethenny is the one with all the money, so the world is on her side!!!!!!! Disgusting!!
“All she does is pose in her skinnygirl clothes…” etc
You are kidding, right?!
You mad bro?
Someone save the puppy.
Is it safe to say your not a fan of B? Lol
Is it safe to say your not a B fan? Lol
While I don’t agree with everything you posted, the two episode gang up on Luann made me uncomfortable. My sister in law was in town working on her computer while I had the Bethenny melt down playing on the tv. Her reaction was– it’s a public restaurant; the skinny chick with the big boobs is a bitch. She never saw the show before. Not airing in Qatar.
While I love Bethenny, she is a bit of a monster when it comes to her custody case. It can’t be just one person slinging the mud. I don’t like Jason hoppy, but Bethenny trying to get full custody is absurd. There’s always an asshole in custody cases– usually two.
Something about Bethenny is off to me. How many times does she have to ream
Luann a new asshole?
Kdwagz I agree with you. I am so tired of Beth being the only person who gets to tell anyone off and makes other’s do what she says (AA meeting and go to bed). If I didn’t want to go to an AA meeting I would not have gone.
Cheryse Marsay Sample’s comment had me double checking the commenting rules for excessive use of exclamation points. Where is Ramona screaming “TAKE A XANAX” when you need her?
I think B is so upset because this triggers her memories of her childhood and her mom who was/is just like Luann. She couldn’t fix either of them…
I’m so glad you said that Anon. That’s exactly what it is.
I said it on the southern charm recap but there are similarities between kathryn and Luann like lake of empathy especially towards the people that have stood by them. .
Hearing all the background from Bethenny about how much she did for Luann – you do not go to those lengths for a coworker, but you do it for a friend.
Squeezy, I think the same thing. Kathryn and Luann dont really give a shit about their girlfriends…it is all about men, men, men.
I was totally impressed with what Betthany and Barbara did for Luann. Wow! No wonder they are furious with her. Both Luann and Sonja came from middle-class families and married up. The lost glory seems to haunt them.
I am beyond embarrassed for how this group carries on like girls gone wild/Virginia Wolff. Whether it’s breaking furniture, screaming fits or hustling men, it’s rumble in the jungle by middle aged women. Did I here Betthany say she preordered food at the restaurant, including tuna? Sigh. At least she tried to limit the drinking on an empty stomach.
LuAnn VIOLATED her probation conditions by not attending AA. Yet on the show she is all about AA. It shows she is all about how she looks for the audience. She doesn’t care about other people telling their stories, she uses AA as a warm-up to her cabaret shows. She lacks empathy towards others and their addiction. Sonja has empathy. She was triggered by what she heard in AA. She tried to tell LuAnn this during the car ride, but LuAnn couldn’t even remember their stories.
LuAnn will continue to think she is a special alcoholic and will never learn the lesson until she is in jail. She was crying when the Judge put handcuffs on her at her last hearing. She thinks she doesn’t deserve this, but clearly she does. Bethenny has been holding in a lot of information that if we knew everything LuAnn did when she was drunk we would understand even more why Bethenny is so upset.
Thanks, Joey, for pointing out the AA meetings were for the camera. It’s a shame she’s using AA and exploiting the program. Recovery is a marathon, a long process, and requires people close to the alcoholic to be understanding. Luann is obviously not working on her sobriety in these last few episodes. She’s burning bridges, and no one has an obligation to keep helping her when she’s so ungrateful.
There have been plenty of times over the years that I’ve pulled for Lu as she navigates her inexorable course of hubris-to-humility and back again. But I don’t think she can come back from this. She lorded the AA thing over Sonja, directing her in what to wear, for ef’s sake, then made her LATE to the meeting, then belittled her after the meeting and disregarded her emotional reaction to it. Then she became self-righteous at the mere mention of Dennis (what about ME?), and to top it all off, she had the Swarovski-crystal-encrusted balls to mock Tinsley for slightly slurring one word. All while, as we now know, she was NOT sober herself. This is unforgivable, and Lu is irredeemable.
I was shocked at LuAnn’s unmitigated gall when she mocked Tinsley after watching Lu literally falling down drunk in prior seasons.
Oh TT this is a wonderful recap. You have captured everything that disgusted me while watching this episode. I also was watching the guest in the restaurant wondering why noone was looking at the
table. Lu makes me sick. Cannot stand this manly woman. She cannot sing a tune. She just talks
the word of the song. Basically she is a joke. Sonja has never gotten over her divorce. After all these
years and all the men shes had since the divorce she still aches to be back in a wifely status. (is wifely a word lol) My heart went out to Bethenny. She has resented Lu for months because she didn’t reach out
to her when Dennis past….maybe she can move on now. For some self centered reason Lu just doesn’t
think she did any wrong. PLEASE BRAVO if you read TT’s please get rid of Lu. She is insufferable.
WTG TT you nailed this.
From some reason I think the customers were the production crew or paid actors. There is no way in hell that paying customers are not going to watch that sh^t show or call the manager over.
Damn, why does my sentences break off like this?
LuAnne and Sonja suffer from not having that powerful, end all husband in their lives any longer. They are a bad case of who they are as a person is who they married; very rich, very accomplished, powerful men.
To a lesser extent Dorinda, Tinsley, Ramona.
Not at all Bethenny and Barbara.
The curse of living in (on) Manhattan. Have family there; it’s all about family status and $.
Agree 100%. A couple of seasons ago all LuAnn could talk about when speaking about Tom was the Penthouse, Palm Beach (which he’s actually in West Palm), their travels and his friend’s yacht.
In last week’s episode when Bethenny asked drunk Sonja who was the President, Sonja answered Bill Clinton, that didn’t surprise me because when he was President Sonja was still married to a Morgan and living that high society life she craves.
Neither LuAnn or Sonja can see that their behavior on the show prevents the type of man they desperately want to even look at them let alone date or marry them.
I haven’t seen this ep and didn’t read the recap yet, but wanted to ask if anyone realized the mansion they’re staying in on Star Island is right next door to the mansion RHOA stayed in the season where they all went to Miami to celebrate Cynthia’s bachelorettef (when NeNe and Kim had that big blowup on the tour bus)? That’s all…back to your regularly scheduled commenting. ?
alrighty then. gotta watch this episode with the sound ON. lol i blame YOU for this, TT! lmfao
luann is always going to be perpetually angry because her ex-husband the count stepped out indiscreetly with his mistress and it forced luann to hand him an ultimatum that ended their marriage. i think she really thought he would put her and the family first and he did not. she’s NEVER going to be okay not being in that marriage. she’s desperate to be in the limelight as a replacement for her countess days when she should just slip back into semi-obscurity and find a very rich man to take care of her. she’s statuesque and can still look amazing when she wants to.
ramona and mario. ramio? marmona? rammo? just go ahead and tell everyone you two are back together.
tinsley. oh, that GIRL. 43 years old and still a 23 year old girl. i have had “poor” people’s therapy. it’s basically about 10-15 sessions of the therapist dragging you back to the reality that you ARE poor and you need to wrap this up because you can’t afford much more. in your sessions you will cover these things: did the psychiatrist give you anti-depressant and anti-anxiety meds ( ?), remember your common sense, and now get on with it and get out. rich people’s therapy must be set up differently to keep you perpetually fucked up so your therapy lasts for the rest of your life—unless you run out of money. because 15 sessions of poor people’s therapy would have tinsley living her best life. she is so beautiful and i can’t help but think i might like her if i knew her. she seems to sweet, but then she goes into desperation mode whenever she gets within three feet of an eligible male. le sigh. tinsley should only meet up with her mother if her mother is in a staightjacket and a ball gag is in place…
oh, bethenny. i don’t like you, but sometimes you come down off of your high horse looking rode hard and put up wet and do something good like throwing a bitch fit at lu! heh.
the sound will deffo be ON when i pull this episode up on demand.
It is lonely being the only RHONY watcher who cannot stand Bethenny. I’m going to go sit in the bathtub and cry into my lobster pop tart.
I’m a situational Bethenny fan. When she is good, she is soo good, and on point. But in certain situations she can be unbearable. But loving her this season.
Agree, some seasons I love her. Some seasons I cant stand her.
You’re not alone I’m not a big fan of her’s either. I don’t like how Sonja felt pressured going to an AA meeting that she didnt want to go too. I don’t know how I would feel someone always ordering for the table. One time would be OK but constantly would get to me. Though I know I would be down for the lobster poptart.
Yes I’m not a fan of bethenney either and saw the episode and it was clear that it was a gang up on Luann. Notice Barbara was good with the girls as soon as she trashed Luann. B might ha e some unresolved issues that she bottled up and unleashed on Luann much like in the past but this stems from b being annoyed by the comment about the fish room.
Dorinda completely stirs the pot and b never got over that comment. Since then b has found ways to go at Luann and having Tinsley chime in as her lapdog and Sonya blows in whichever direction the wind goes.
Luann makes it easy for them so that’s the sad part she gives them ammunition but each example they give easily can be applied to other cast and they don’t go as hard against them as they do Luann.
B can plug her products Ramona can try to plug hers Sonya can make up businesses yet they need a drinking game for cabaret in which Tinsley was the dummy trying to take shots and Luann didn’t even say cabaret once that scene. High school and pathetic.
Bethenney has certainly made fun of people misusing words/slurring yet its so bad luann did it??? I’d respond the way Luann did to Tinsley if someone was chiming in and messed up. What Luann did was not out of the ordinary.
In the end, Dorinda stirs the pot, bethenney always has a target, Sonya goes with the majority, Ramona adds to it and is just glad it’s not her and Tinsley just wants to chime in so she’s not completely ignored.
As much as I like Luann and her delusions are tolerable for me, I feel the ladies are trying to push her out.
Ramona barely has a storyline.
Dorinda’s storyline WAS luann.
Sonya is crafty she knows how to stay in the game.
Tinsley is the one that needs to leave but they are already putting out smear campaigns trashing Luann before the reunion even airs and now using the “she’s a liability” excuse when they had no problem exploiting her at her most vulnerable
I hope luann can survive to the next season but it’s not looking good.
That was hard to watch. I could feel Bethenny’s heartbreak and grief. Lu is something else.
I’m glad BF put LuAnn’s shit in the street. I want to hear all about the negligee clad countess running through the field and then having an ambulance called. Also, remember how pissed LuAnn was at BF for not lending her $6 million to buy that house? The one she stole her kid’s trust fund for? What a cunt she is and I didn’t think anyone could be more cunty this season than chubby Ramona. Poor Ramona must hate seeing herself on the screen, she’s so damn vain.
Ramona got lipo. Her stomach is flat, and snatched now. She looks good. New teeth, new stomach, true renewal indeed. lmao. Bethenny ran into her on her snaps last week, she looked fierce. Such a train wreck tho, but great to watch * Kenya pop corn yum juicy gif * hehe
I thought Ramona looked good at supper, the skirt and top she wore were flattering on her. She doesn’t nail it very often but when she went back to check on Lu before supper I was truly liking what I saw.
It won’t last. It never does.
Observation of Bethenny : She has said that her mother used to get wasted, and Bethenny would be her caretaker, trying to make her ‘better’.. fix whats broken, so in return subconsciously, she can receive her love etc. I have noticed a pattern when something is wrong with someone Bethenny turns into a very kind compassionate caretaker, helper, counselor, willing to bend over backwards to help someone. Her charity, etc. As she did with Luann. Bethenny swooped into help someone she wasn’t even that close 2, and just like Bethennys mother, it was unappreciated, she was never given the love and support from her mother back ,etc etc, and the same way it was mirrored by Luann’s, only concern for herself. Everything taken, nothing given back, even in just kindness and gratitude. ie Never good enough! Luanna criticized Bethenny, threw her under the bus, probably the same constant way her mother did. They say we attract our childhood experiences over and over again. Couple that with losing Dennis, and Luanns behavior, Bethenny was really talking to her mother subconsciously during that outburst. Luanns gross behavior the trigger. History repeats itself over and over. The mother wound is very deep. When I see Bethenny talking and counseling Sonja about her drinking, its like Bethennys mother daughter relationship being played out subconsciously. Bethenny wants to help the world, and broken women, and is re experiencing this pattern, this wound, of it feeling like, no matter what she does, it’s never good enough… Makes me feel sad for her. It’s a terrible thing to reincarnate in our lives.
I agree with your observations Lea.
Beautifully said
It’s called co-dependency. At some point, unless she burns herself out, she will learn to set boundaries and be more particular about who she gives her energy to.
I grew up with a mother similar to Bethenny in that she was prone to histrionics. I mostly like Bethenny but I tune her out everytime she has a meltdown or starts crying. Just can’t help it. It’s like a knee jerk reaction. Not just her but anyone who acts that way. I have to read the recaps to find out what she says. Didn’t hear any of the negligee in the field story.
After FINALLY making it to New Orleans, the city I long assumed would feed my artistic inclinations, I walked through the park to cafe du mondes for my long awaited beignets. I was shattered by the homeless people sleeping in the grass and shopping cart ladies walking around. I cried silently while waiting in the longest line ever. Then I was too upset to eat satans biscuit. Being from the “top of da boot” (north Louisiana) where everyone is poor, or poor adjacent, I still wasn’t prepared for the gut wrenching pain of seeing this. So I get why Sonja was so upset listening to people’s “rock bottom” stories. Luckily for me in this instance, I could find a little joy watching men by the truck load walk around in red tutus. While drinking hurricanes. At 8 in the morning.
Long time lurker… just wanted to say your phrase of “eat satans biscuit” made me chuckle quite hard. I have never heard of the phrase before and I will always see those beignets differently now. 😉
As they say in the south, praise the lord and pass the biscuits.
Luann needs to switch from alcohol to weed. She needs to chill the f out.
Am I the only one who noticed the product placement for GT Kombucha during the Miami episodes? Bethenny was shilling it instead of SkinnyGirl. We have barely seen SkinnyGirl this season.
I noticed as well but what had me laughing was Ramona sitting in the bed with her Ageless bottle, making sure to hold it upright and directly facing the camera for the entire scene.
On WWHL they showed Ramona’s product placement. I didn’t realize that Ramona intentionally had the cream positioned for the camera, until they showed the recap. I missed the GT Kombucha.
Bethenny’s melt down was a long time coming. Everyone at the table was frustrated and disappointed in Luann, some with personal history of putting their own needs and lives on the back burner to get Luann the help she needed. No one at that table doesn’t want Luann to succeed in sobriety and at life, not one. This episode solidified my disgust for Luann. I too want her to succeed, be healthy and happy and with that share with these ladies (us) the joys and sorrows that come with life. She appears incapable of humbling herself to the humanity of her situation and blames everyone but herself. It’s really difficult now for me to keep rooting for Luann, she’s in such a dark place it’s no fun watching. I hope she’s taken time to get serious about her life since her last court date.
I love Bethenny will all her weaknesses she doesn’t let her insecurities stop her, constantly trying to support and care for everyone around her and takes on care of complete strangers with her charity works at risk of her own sanity. I love that she can verbalize her thoughts under fire, she’s so smart that one. It was nice to see everyone else at the table agreeing, caring and supporting her tonight. She was too kind keeping and holding back on many details of Luann’s struggles (Barbara too), that is a good friend. I hope she gets love and support from everyone after that emotional meltdown, she deserves snuggles, hugs and someone holding her head and hands.
I want to know more about Luann crashing a boat and running around in fields wearing a negligee. Does anyone have for info on this?
I wonder if Luann is bi-polar in addition to having a personality disorder like narcissism. Sometimes people who are bi-polar self medicate with alcohol and other drugs because bi-polar meds often have pretty undesirable side effects. People I’ve known who are in their manic phases are extremely grandiose and do crazy reckless things. Kind of like her trying to buy a 6 million dollar mansion, staying up for days at a time calling, emailing everyone she knew asking for that kind of money! My guess is an ambulance was called and she escaped through the woods in a nightie rather than be put in restraints and taken to the hospital for a mental evaluation. Alcohol can make you do some stupid shit but this sounds more like a psychotic break or bi-polar disorder
Bethenny makes great TV but not a great friend. She is caring but constantly taking notes to be used against you when she turns on you and turn she will. She has turned viciously on every single woman on that show. I mostly feel sorry for her but I really feel sorry for poor little Brynn. She too will never be grateful enough for all her mother has done…etc.
I disagree. I think if Luanne had been slightly humble, a bit thankful and had a “Hey, how ya doin?”, Benthany would have been fine and this blow up would not have happened.
What a crazy episode – omg!!!
Luann
I 100% percent agree with everything they were telling Lu, and I may be in the minority but I did still badly for her. It sucks to be the one that everyone is aiming at.
Babs
My heart went out to her when she said she would just go home. So glad she was connecting more with the group towards the end of the episode.
Sonja
Came off as a human being this episode and admitting her fears for the future. They have been episodes when she came off as a bit cruel and self centered.
Tins
Needs to get out of her own way. She is a nice girl but at 43 you have to stop over thinking and pick a lane. The husband thing may have wait if she is really serious about being a mother.
Ramona
We see glimpses of human behavior from her every now and then and this was a good episode for her. And from last episode, she was definitely meeting her afternoon delight for a tumble – but was it Mario??!!!?
Dorinda
Not much to say about her this episode.
B
My heart went out to her during her breakdown. Someone previously said that Luann is bringing up memories of B’s mom and that is why she is trying so hard to save her – and I would have to agree. The problem for B, is like her mother, Lu will never give her that appreciation / affection.
I felt somewhat bad for Lu when everyone was piling on her but that flew out the window when she under her breath said Babs, “was her friend”…
Luann needs to take a look at herself already. It’s like getting arrested made her think she’s some sort of a special star. I used to love her, not this season. She’s bringing the season down with her attitude.
Tinsley, what the hell. I love her, but don’t tell your life story (including getting arrested) on a date. Otherwise, she’s endearing.
It was nice of Bethenny to have helped Lu with stuff but the fake panic attack (it’s not the first time) is over the top and proof of why her E-list acting career never took off despite her hanging out with Hollywood heavyweights like Paris Hilton.
Pretending Dennis was her fiancee is unconscionable and opportunistic. When she wants sympathy and attention, he was her fiancee. When she wants to look credible, she turned him down.
She’s never been the smartest person in any room but she’s just as desperate as these other broads.
Unpopular opinion, but so insightful. I’m in total agreement,
You seem very confused, my dear.
Paris Hilton is not now, nor has she ever been a “Hollywood heavyweight”.
Bethenny was a paid employee of Paris Hilton’s mother and did things like pick up Paris and her sister from school…therefore, this was many years before anybody ever heard of Paris Hilton. So I don’t think anybody would describe that as “hanging out with a Hollywood heavyweight”.
The rest of your comment is equally asinine.
The number of people here who think Bethenny was faking that panic attack is a harsh reminder of the kind of angry, ignorant world we now live in.
Bethenny’s panic attack was definitely real. I’m a big fan of her quick wit and her compassion for others.
As one who has suffered from them my whole life i would say that hers was real. That’s why it’s hard to watch for me.
Luann’s rage and her refusal to accept responsibility for anything fueled it. Of course it’s Bethenny’s memories of how she felt with her mom! How could it be it’s be? I think the panic is in this moment she’s realized she helped Luann-pure selfish angry ungrateful cruel Luann
It’s the people who don’t have anxiety who don’t believe it. Which fortunately, or unfortunately is most people.
I could hardly watch. Been there, done that. And people telling her she is going to have a heart attack are doing the abosolute worst to “help.”
Last panic attack I had I was fortunately with my sister. She calmly pulled me out of the crushing crowd of people, bought me a lemonade and gave me a Valium. My brother-in-law was completely horrified because he had never seen me that way. It’s a hard thing to handle for an outsider if you’ve never been around a person who has them.
Simply awful. Last one I had started when I was in an Uber. Made him stop and get me some baby aspirin, then stayed on the phone with hubs for three hours hyperventilating while trying to muffle it as I was in a hotel room 2000 miles from home. You simply cannot control it.
Lu was like a cornered feral cat. That quiet rage is scary as fuck.
I like Bethenny, always have. She is my favorite housewife of all franchises.
I couldn’t watch the episode because I couldn’t bare to see Bethany go through that. The previews alone were awful and it continues next week? I’ll no doubt tap out. Did I have my head in the sand about Luann or did she just get this way since she “stopped” drinking? I feel like I don’t know her at all. Thank you, Tamara. Whatever you’re going through and dealing with, I would take it all away from you if I could. Stay strong.
Karen, don’t tap out. The drama will be short and at the beginning and they will all head back to NYC within the first five or ten minute of the show.
Thanks for the kind words on the personal front. I am a bit better today. I just have a lot going on and might need some blood pressure medications.
Also, Karen, on the show that just aired, you could watch most of it and just end early. The drama with Bethenny doesn’t happen until the last 10 minutes or so.
Luann has a bunch of “normal” siblings out there. I wonder what they think of her behavior and entitlement. Lu must have something over them because I’ve never heard them say a word in any mag or blog.
That throw down broke my heart. I knew that Bethenny and Barbara had moved heaven and earth to help LuAnn, but I had no idea it went even deeper than we all imagined. Someone as powerful as Bethenny and SHE is physically sitting in Lu’s driveway to protect Lu from Lu. Not to mention the other things. When LuAnn got divorced, I felt for her and hated the Count…but now I wonder if he just grew too tired of her antics so the kids got parked in boarding schools and he got the Hell out of Dodge.
“How Dare You” could be our new drinking game. She needs to lose that phrase and embrace the phrase, “I’m sorry” because a simple, “I’m sorry” goes a very long way.
I also thought the other people sitting close to the women’s table seemed too oblivious as to the jumping up and screaming at each other. If I were sitting close my jaw would be on the floor and I would be staring so intently that my eyes would be bugging out. I think it seemed like extras in a staged scene.
My heart went out to Bethenny . She is in a deep state of grief. Luann was looking down her nose but it is not too late to change her selfish ways. Tinsley is so beautiful she just needs to relax around men and be her true self and not try so hard.
Were I diner there my reactions would be:
First: Excuse me we’re just trying to have a good time would you mind?
Second: Excuse me we really are just trying to have a good time and enjoy ourselves would you mind keeping it down?
Third: SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I thought the same thing, MarshaMarshaMarsha. They definitely looked like extras or part of production. I just heard on a podcast recently that Tej is a production assistant – that blew my mind and opened my eyes a bit. And this was after I watched the episode and could not believe that as someone is having a full on panic attack/meltdown no one was even looking their way.
Dear Betheny, Look at you! You know a lot of people rag on you dear, but really blah, who needs them anyway. Now about the last episode dear, I really feel rather inclined to say I love you, I really, really do. Thank you so much for putting the Cabaret Colossus in her place at the bottom of the barrel where she so clearly indicated with her behavior she wants to live.
Also say hi to Dorrinda, tell her ForumDude says Hi, I adore her, and the Cyndi Lauper housewife Sonja (she just wants to have fun) too, also Tinsley she’ll figure it all out and probably end up with like two sets of twins and triplets, which she should dump on her mother to take care of as often as she can, that’ll teach her mother.
Oh yeah, one last thing dear. If you get a sec could you explain girl code to Romona that horny heifer hasn’t a clue what that’s all about.
TT, when did they move to Thursdays? I just looked on Bravo and it said that.I hate waiting even til Wednesday for this show.