Who is ready for another episode of RHOBH where Kyle Richards gets blamed for LVP’s backfired plans? Also, I fear that comments are going to get political when Lisa Rinna and Denise Richards disagree with Camille Grammer’s views on Brett Kavanaugh. We actually tried to talk about the Kavanaugh hearings here. I’m not sure how excited to be about this particular RHOBH Recap.
Denise Richards
The episode begins with Denise Richards and her personal assistant Mikey putting out snacks for Dorit Kemsley. Already I have so many questions. Why does Mikey look so familiar? What kind of things does Mikey assist with? Why is Dorit coming over? Denise and Dorit seem like such an awkward pairing. Then again Erika Jayne started out the season as Dorit’s BFF. Maybe Erika Jayne said her rehearsals prohibit her from being cast in the role longtime. Production wants what it wants. Denise claims she liked Dorit from the moment she met her. That is concerning. I’m very distracted by Dorit’s ponytail.
The takeaway from this scene is that Lisa Vanderpump hasn’t spoken to Dorit or Paul since Denise’s wedding. And Denise has a stunning house right on the ocean.
Camille’s Bridal Shower
Wow, I thought this would be the last scene. I suppose it will be the Kavanaugh fight. I miss Kyle’s hats already. What is with all the weird ponytails this episode? Camille does a talking head about how great David is. Is he though? Check out this link. Camille’s picker has been broken for years.
The table setting is gorgeous. Camille was given a Swarovski crystal tiara to wear for the event. Dorit mentions she ran into Kathy Hilton and she was very nice. Kyle says she and Kathy had a nice dinner recently. Rinna says, “well, the show got cancelled.” True. But Rinna, try to think before you speak. Kyle laughs it off. In Kyle’s talking head she said getting back in touch with her sisters was the one good thing about American Woman getting cancelled. I actually really liked that show. So, it’s probably my fault it got cancelled. Along that line, y’all should enjoy Mexican Dynasties while you can.
Camille is pissed that Lisa Vanderpump didn’t come to her shower. Camille says when she was going through all the things with Kelsey Grammer, LVP told her to be strong and keep going to things. That was a lot of work for such a short segment.
Goodbye Vanderpump, Hello Vanderhall!
Kyle has a new toy. It’s a Vanderhall. A Vanderhall is a hand-made three-wheeled autocycle (priced at $30K) designed for sports driving, touring, commuting and city driving. She takes Portia out for a spin to pick up some items at Sabzee Market. The fancypants grocery store has a terrible logo. I could not for the life of me figure out what the B was supposed to be. Some of you rich Californians please regale us with stories about this place in comments. We are not even inside yet and I already have grocery envy.
Lisa Rinna’s Mom is in Town!
Lisa Rinna tells everyone she meets that her mother, Lois, in almost 91 years old. Her mom has never had a facial or a massage. So she is taking her and her daughters of IV drips. Lois is smart so she passed on fully participating in this informercial. It’s the day of the Kavanaugh hearings. So Rinna talks about how Dr, Christine Blasey Ford horrible it is that her family was receiving death threats. The prevailing feeling of most women who watched the hearings was that this is exactly why women don’t come forward with these sorts of allegation. We will soon find out that Camille Grammer, Trump supporter, doesn’t share the popular sentiment.
Dinner With Lois
All the girls are excited to see Lois. Rinna has a new $5,000 Hermes handbag. It’s tiny. But it is Hermes! Rinna’s kids are there and they are all grown up! They just stayed for a minute. They are too cool for this event. Camille tells Kyle that LVP said she was not invited to the bridal shower. Please. It was an all cast shoot. LVP refused to tape anywhere but her house right after Denise’s wedding. And Denise was the only one she would talk to. She has to get the gossip from someone.
Kyle calls LVP a liar and shows Camille on her phone that both her invitation and her birthday wishes were delivered. LVP was not speaking to anyone. Kyle is pissed at Camille for not saying that LVP had an empty place at the table.
Harry Hamlin didn’t come to dinner because he was glued to he senate hearings and all the news surrounding it. Rinna talks about the courage that Dr. Ford showed at the hearings.
Camille Has An Unpopular Opinion
Camille says she has a different point of view. She claims she has been falsely accused of abuse before.Or so she says. She was the one who claimed Dimitri was abusing her and she could not prove that he did so he was not prosecuted. So Dimitri actually filed defamation charges against her. I’m not sure why she is telling a different story now. Perhaps she is talking about someone else. I do seem to recall that Dimitri said that she was aggressive while on her medication prior to her cancer surgery. Why would she dredge this all up again?
Camille says that is Dr. Ford was assaulted, she would have told her mother or one of her friends. No one at the table agrees with that. Furthermore, she had no witnessed to the abuse she claimed against Dimitri so the whole stance of if you don’t have witnesses you can’t report it is ridiculous. Almost all the time when a woman is abused it is done in private. One of Rinna’s friends speaks up and says she was assaulted in the seventh grade and never told a soul unto recently. She talked about it because of the #metoo movement. So she believes Dr. Ford.
Camille Says She Was Wrongly Accused of …Something?
Camille says she was assaulted too. She told her boyfriend, her mother and her therapist. I believe that Dr. Ford’s therapist did have notes about her abuse. Camille needs to understand that what she did doesn’t mean that there are a lot of people who never told anyone. I didn’t tell anyone about my childhood abuse until menopause. Because during menopause a lot of childhood trauma bubbles to the surface for some reason.
RHOBH Recap: The Camille and Dimitri Posts
Rinna points out that Dr. Ford did tell her husband and her therapist. Camille says that it was years later that she talked about it and that doesn’t make sense. I want to punch Camille in the face. Also I am remembering that Camille emailed me once about something I wrote about her legal case where I reported on the evidence ans she was upset that I wasn’t supportive enough of her at that time. Times change apparently. Camille is furious that no one agrees with her.
Apparently, it was Kelsey that accused her of being abusive. Rinna is pissed because Camille is making this conversation about Camille. Kyle points out that she was raised not to discuss politics, religion or sex in a public setting. That is her very polite way of getting the ladies to drop it.
Can We Get Back To Lois Now?
Rinna changes the subject by giving a toast to Lois. Kyle says that Kim is on a date in the same restaurant. Rinna hasn’t seen Kim since the bunny reunion. Kyle says her goodbyes and goes downstairs to speak to Kim. Kyle runs into Camille who went to the restroom to cry. Whatever Camille. Then she remembers that she is supposed to ask Kyle to be a bridesmaid in this scene. So she pops the question as Kyle is walking out. Kyle is thrilled. Because who doesn’t want to be a bridesmaid. Other than you know, everyone. Especially after age 30.
Camille goes back upstairs crying and Rinna comes to give her a hug. Poor Lois. Everyone bids her farewell and makes haste to the nearest exit. Kyle has not made it out of the restaurant yet. Oh look. It’s Kathy Hilton. What a coincidence! Sigh. Kathy and Kyle take their production cue and leave. This leaves Kim Richards to run into them all as they try to flee Camille. Rinna walks right past her.
Lois’ Mom Shares Her Story
Rinna’s mom was assaulted before Lisa was born by a male coworker. It was bad. He drove her down an isolated road and straddled her with a knife in one hand and a hammer in another. She thought he was going to kill her. He tried. He also tried to rape her. But, a military police officer patrolling the area knew no one was supposed to be on that road so he went to investigate. He saved her life. The guy went to jail for seven and a half years. After he got out, he killed multiple people and was sentenced to life in prison. Wow. He was the Trailside Serial Killer. He killed 16-18 women.
Lois was beaten so badly she has a metal plate in her head. She also lost her sense of smell. She didn’t tell her kids for years and years. Lois didn’t want them be afraid of the world. Rinna says she is the only woman she knows who was never raped or assaulted. That is why she feels so strongly about Dr. Ford being believed.
Both LVP and Erika Jayne got random filler scenes to insure they are paid for all the episodes. This is literally what fast forward is for.
So They Will Show Lisa Vanderpump’s Vegas Opening?
The trailer came out for the rest of the season and I’ll be damned if they didn’t film LVP at Caesar’s Palace. When I asked Tamara Tattle’s source about it they said that the season was wrapped. And it was. And that a Vanderpump Rules line producer hopped on a plane with the Vanderkids after a the Vanderpump reunion was filmed.
The source said that a producer has to be present all out-of-town filming. No filming was planned. So either they filmed her standing outside in front of the crowd of tens, or they used some local TV footage. It’s crazy. It also means we are going to have lots of wasted time with kitchen renovation scenes. Because when you are despondent and in mourning, a major home renovation is always the best remedy. Denise coming for Camille is kind of shocking!
I’ll try not to get “too political” here. But since politics is my day job, I have to write about a whole lot of assholes (Democrats and Republicans, btw) who do a whole lot of abusive shit, and my tolerance for such abuse has gone to zero, this just reminds me of all the harassment and abuse that still occurs and still gets excused.
As for LVP, I never thought I’d say this, but I’m done with that manufactured drama. I went by that bar at Caesars earlier this month. It really is just an overpriced tourist trap. And knowing what we know now about Puppygate, I’m so over this overhyped scandal that’s really just about a poor dog who was used as a pawn to get LVP more camera time and a juicier storyline.
So LVP dropped the puppy off at the kill shelter for attention for herself? Wow~ And I thought she was kind to animals. That Yulan Dog Festival shit is probably for attention for herself as well. Now let’s look at Bethanny and her passion for charities. I have a whole new view now.
Thank you. It makes NO SENSE for the head of a non-profit organization to deliberately sully its reputation & endanger its tax-exempt status.
Great comment atdleft ….ignore the ranting, frothing , Lisa cult followers. I too have heard that the cocktail garden is overhyped shite. (A bit like Lisa and her scuzzy husband)
I can’t comment because it screens tomorrow for me – I have to get it through iTunes BUT was wondering…. if Erika was at Coachella, I wonder why we don’t have a picture with Teddi, Kyle and Rinna after seeing the more to come – pushing me out comment? Anything on the grapevine TT
Not sure I understand the question. Coachella is happening now and filming was months ago. If you mean in present day, I don’t see Erika going to Coachella with the HWs, she’d probably rather go with her glam squad. She’s not particularly close with any of them outside the show.
This werk I have been blocked from LVPs twitter account (my first comment too😃). Seems like she just does not like home truths.Thanks TT your site is a refuge from her insane biased fans who are delusional…..(though I see a few venture on here with their crazed views.) This week’s highlight was the Mum and daughter Umansky trip in that cool little car and Portia looked adorable
I have never been to Sabzee Market. In fact I had to google it because I had never heard of it before tonight and it is in Encino which it is not in Los Angeles or Beverly Hills. It’s over the hill as some would say. I have been to Il Cielo which is fabulous and it’s pricey. I am too cheap so I wait and go during restaurant week.
Camille ? What was that?
Has she ever had the opportunity look at herself and examine her role in anything? I forgot she compared herself to God it’s no wonder she compared herself to a Supreme Court Justice.
Camile is showing her true colors again. Guess Camile of season 1 was the real thing and to think, I liked her. I was played. I don’t care who you are, if you’re a Trump supporter who would denigrate another woman and dare to ask why she waited so long, I’m done with you.
I never told a soul
Me either. Yes, she is pure Trump.
I am glad you are telling now. 👏🏻
I was 15 years old and naive as all hell. Took up a guy on an offer for a ride home from roller skating and was sexually assaulted. I fought him off (grew up with 6 brothers and knew how to hold my own in a physical altercation) and jumped out of a moving car. Walked 5 miles home and NEVER TOLD A SOUL, until I was a mature adult who understood that it wasn’t my fault and I had nothing to be ashamed of. I am so disappointed in you Camille. You are sounding like an ignorant ass.
TT, I am also shocked that Camille played dumb and didn’t tell Lisa that there was a place setting with her name at that shower. I normally like Camille but she was super annoying on this episode.
I don’t think she played dumb because she needed to confirm with Kyle that yes Kyle invited her. I do think she should have said. Let me check into why you weren’t invited and get back with you. That would have put LVP on notice because you know there would be receipts.
Isn’t there also a call sheet sent by producers to tell you where you are supposed to be on days you film?
Kathy and Kim at dinner was soooo random..sarcasm🙄 Can we ever get thru a season without talking to kr about Kim Richards?!?
looks like we still have to see LVP throughout the season according to the previews … ugh I thought we were done w her..
One more thing about Camille
Did ANYONE at the table doubt her story of abuse? I noticed that she received a lot of support. Did any of the women accuse her of making it up for screen time or attention or sympathy? I wonder how that would have felt to her as she cried.
You are so right on. Also, Kelsey was an ass and they were made for each other.
I agree, Flynn. I’ve never cared for Camille and knew she’s been pretending to be kind. She slowly is showing her pretentiousness.
I was a massage therapist for twenty years. I have had many middle aged and even elderly women tell me about being sexually abused as children and they never told anyone about it before telling me.
I was sexually abused when I was in around third grade. I never told anyone about it until I was in my forties. I think it is more uncommon for people to tell than it is to keep it to themselves.
Sorry the comment is long and a little off topic.
Not off topic at all. One of my most recent encounters with unwanted touching happened at Envy Massage in Atlanta. I had a male therapist. The massage table was not very wide. It happened to come up just to the level of the massage therapist’s penis. It seemed like it was rubbing against me a lot. I was super uncomfortable but also not entirely sure it was deliberate at first. Then I was sure and didn’t know what to do. It was supposed to be a half day spa with other treatments afterward. I left immediately afterward.
During the last election for Governor, our Secretary of State was one of the candidates. He ran against Sarah Abrams. She pointed out that under his tenure as Secretary of State numerous complaints were filed against Massage Envy for such behavior. This was YEARS AND YEARS after my encounter. He never addressed, received a large campaign contribution from Massage Envy and is now our creepy old white man governor.
So clearly, nothing would have happened if I had decided to report it.
When you are sexually assaulted in my case in that instance I thought that I was probably a bit wide for the table. This was BEFORE I got fat. Still, you kind of don’t want to believe it is happening when it is. And if you do believe, you think you somehow caused it. This is why people don’t report. That and people like Camille Grammer. She would have wanted an eye witness in the treatment room, or for me to run screaming from the room.
I don’t think I’ve ever told anyone about that particular incident. And I never told anyone who could have done anything about it anything until the first person to sexually assault me as a child was dead. Though I found out later that my mother likely knew and the relative had a history of such behavior with children visiting his home.
I was about to end with apologizing for the depressing post. Then I realized that my initial reaction was to tell SP not to apologize.
I can’t believe that place is still open. It has a horrible reputation for males being inappropriate with female clients. I remember hearing or reading somewhere that many lawsuits have been filed and settled.
I am horrified to see the stories here. I do remember that place had lawsuits so I’m shocked that nothing was ever done. I think I read they installed cameras in the treatment rooms to combat what obviously was rampant abuse. Ugh. I read many years ago about some women at other places talking about similar things during massages so I ask for female attendants to this day. Not that they can’t do the same but it’s generally less likely I think. Such a violation at a vulnerable time.
Isn’t it interesting that one of the first red flags we tend to ignore is the invasion of our personal space? I was assaulted on a public tram. Sitting knee to knee with a woman deeply engrossed in her book, I felt rather than saw that the man who sat down beside me was too close. And yet, like you TT, I felt frozen. He had a sports bag on his lap and was obviously masturbating through it . Eventually, I stood up and said to the conductor ‘that man is doing something disgusting ‘. He fled the tram. I went home and threw away my pantyhose and couldn’t shower enough. The next day, a fellow passenger approached me. He witnessed it and happened to be a federal cop. As a result, I got to look at books and books of sex pests at the local police station. Nothing came of it. But we really need to take immediate action when we feel our space is being invaded. I didn’t look at this creep because public transport etiquette. I remember thinking that he must be very overweight. He wasn’t. He was just pressing his leg against mine. Gross.
I had a similar issue at Massage Envy as Tamara, a few years ago. I thought I was being overly sensitive b/c of my childhood abuse. Now I’m angry. Bastards.
That sucks, Tamara. Those are the worse – the abuses that a so close to being possibly excusable and we woman always question it or ourselves. If it feels creepy, I say scream right then and get away. 99% percent of the time it is.
I can’t even count the men from childhood.
You could discern clearly that each woman at that table had a story of abuse or inappropriate behavior to share. I don’t know of one female with whom I am close that doesn’t. I am glad that they discussed it, but Camille was off in her own head when she began her spiel, and it just got worse as she continued. Bless her heart.
it is said that it is very rare for a woman to claim abuse – extraordinarily rare. I have no idea why Camille insists on what they call ‘proof’. If a woman is going to lie, she can tell her “abuse story” to her friends, mother, and therapist at the supposed time. Is that proof to convict someone? I was just told by an 81-year-old woman that she was abused because I asked (she was my patient). She told me she was 11 and had never told anyone until me just then. She cried for quite a while. I guess Camille would call bullshit on her.
Am I the only one that is super annoyed how lisa rinna says Lois instead of mom and harry hamlin instead of husband? And 90% of the time during her talking heads she laughs after she says something. So over Rinna!
Calling your mom by her first name bugs me too! I was at the dump/transfer station yesterday and picked up Erika Jayne’s book– they have a free book swap. She refers to her Mom as Renee. The line spacing was weirdly big (1.5?). It was as if she didn’t have enough content. I put it down after 15 pages. Boring, but at least I didn’t pay $27.
Lvp’s book was there also.
I am glad you brought up the Lois thing. It bugs me too and seems disrespectful. I seem to remember she doesn’t have fond memories of when/where she was a child (am I dreaming that?) and maybe this is how she deals with it.
No, she didn’t have a good childhood according to her. She’s not close with her mom. It’s superficial
That’s weird for me to esp since my mom’s name is Lois! I never call her that, unless we are in public and she is not answering to “mom”. She also taught me all of my swear words.
I was so annoyed with Lisa and the new kitchen, didnt she design the last one? Then as she lame-swings the hammer at the cabinets she talks about the fight with Kyle being the “last time” she was in the kitchen, two weeks ago. Two weeks since she has been in her own kitchen. Poor thing, at least she has a catering kitchen right next door.
One thing I realized I like about Denise is that her face is still pretty natural. When talking with Dorit I noticed that her eyebrows still move! I think she is the only one in the whole history of RHBH that can do that.
No..I call my mom by her first name. To each their own.
Now RiRi, you know all families have exactly the same dynamic. There are RULES that must be followed! 🙂
I hope you don’t laugh a lot at your own jokes. Because that would be just horrible.
I call my mom by her name because 1. Its natural when your mom lives at home and everyone is calling her by her 2. She told me to because she never wanted children and perhaps was ashamed of me 3. She was cold, abusive and distant 4. I don’t really know her etc etc
I’m always a little put off by the use of profanity in the presence of a parents/elders. I guess I’m old fashioned. I have never sworn in the presence of my parents nor elders. It just seems so disrespectful to me.
Eh, I finally started swearing in front of my parents (like, a lot) when I was in my 40s. It seems fake not to, and – besides – I learned at Mom’s knee. Not necessarily the F word, but everything else. It’s not like my parents haven’t ever heard it before.
Now my grandmother, that’s another story.
I am in the minority. I believed the Judge from the beginning and am thrilled he was finally appointed even at the expense to the humiliation of his family. It is a fact that a huge percentage
of women that claim sexual abuse are looking for attention and to hurt the person they are accusing. Granted some women suffer terribly from abuse but in Judge Kavanaugh’s case I do
not believe that woman. Bravo to Camille for standing up for her beliefs.
Lisa RInna is a foul mouth pot stirrer. I cannot believe she acts the way she does in front of her
Mother. Absolutely NO RESPECT at all. Her skelton ass is disgusting.
Here is some lack of respect for you. You are a cunt and I’d like to punch you in your dumb stupid face.
Dear Skye,
It is because of people like you that a lot of women (myself included) don’t report or ever tell anyone about being assaulted.
You obviously have no clue how scared and violated a person feels after they’ve been assaulted. Can you even fathom what it would feel like to have someone say it never happened. The claim was just to get attention or hurt someone.
You’re right Camille is entitled to her opinion, but it doesn’t give her the right to set a time limit on when a woman reports being assaulted. Or claim it didn’t happen because the woman didn’t report it.
What really makes me sad is you probably know someone who has been assaulted, but they’ve never spoken about or reported it. Just look at how many people commented here about being assaulted.
In the future please take a moment to think how your words and opinions will affect other people.
Sorry for the long post TT, but I had to speak up on this one
TT readers are the best. Thanks for your statement
#metoo
Skye, being in the “minority” does not make you right and I’m not sure you are in the minority, anyway. Groups of people who think like you: 1) Rapists who deny they raped. 2) Parents and spouses who deny rape claims against their children or spouse. 3) People like you who are surrounded by victims who would never tell you because they know you’d attack them. 4) Authority figures and those who had to be forced to report with mandatory report laws who still block reporting of assaults. 5) Defense attorneys and the like who have no scruples. 6) People who procure victims for the violent. Usw; the list is long.
And all the people said, “Amen.”
I would fall under #3. I wonder if Skye would tell me it had been to long since it happened. So I must be looking for attention…..
Amen
I hear live Congressional Hearings discussing life changing moments of violation and death threats to your entire family are great way to get attention, Michelle. Consider this plan for telling your truth should you eve choose to.
I call my mom Kathy all the time. Why call her mom when she really wasn’t one?
Ouch! I get it.
Wow. GREAT point, Melissa. Never thought of that.
I get it, I call my father by his first name (bka the sperm donor).
I have often wondered when ugly Camille would reappear. It was only a matter of time…
Wow, I also had an experience at Massage Envy in Phoenix (Deer Valley). A male masseuse I’d seen for ~1 year monthly gradually started massaging my inner thigh. The first couple times I questioned myself thinking I may be imaging this. My co-worker had recommended him and he was very good so I gave the benefit of the doubt. The third time — we’ll i wasn’t wrong. I got up, asked for the manager to call me. The manager stuck up for this guy. I was angry and felt violated again. I then complained to the head office. Again, nothing. I think this must happen a lot.
Great recap. The shower was decorated beautifully. Yup, Camille knows how to pick em but guess it’s not strange for one asshole to choose another. What is shocking is since her picker has been off, like you said, why she would potentially risk all that coin she hauled from Kelsey’s stupid ass with another marriage? At her age, she’s crazy to put a ring on it and risk him coming for the money she was lucky enough to score. On the Kavanagh thing, Camille is so fake and her ludicrous analogy with screaming about her false accusations reminds me of Vicki comparing herself to Jesus over Brooks. Really? Not the least of which it was said that Ford was so credible that they considered withdrawing The nomination until Lindsey “clutching my pearls” Graham started his faux tizzy fit that turned around the dynamic just as Clarence Thomas did at his hearing. The random appearances of Kim and Kathy. Lol.
I’d never get in that thing Kyle drove or put my child in it. Not safe. Rinna’s mother was saved by a miracle. What a story. Bless her and how amazing she looks. It’ll be interesting to see Denise ramp up some drama. Maybe.
I forgot about the attack! Ughh that made it hard for me to fall asleep thinking about what she must have gone thru. So glad she was saved and able to tell her story. Lois seems like a terrific lady ♡♡♡
The arguments against Dr. Ford’s testimony drive me insane. I was raped once by 2 guys. I told a few friends but didn’t report it because it would have ruined my life. If, however, one of them was up for a seat on the supreme court you would hear me shouting from every rooftop I could find to keep him out of such an important branch of government.
How tragic. I am so sorry that happened to you. And that is so our country (or world) – your life would have been ruined if you had reported. This is so sad.
I get that Camille is entitled to her unfortunate opinion but her dismissing the others experiences as less important than her own is beyond insulting. And also stop fucking referencing to Kelsey! Oh my gosh Camille shut up about him! I cannot stand how she’s always trying to reference him without saying his name about how she was wrongly accused of something or her smear campaign or whatever language she’s using about it. I am absolutely no Kelsey Grammar fan other than enjoying him in Cheers, I think he did her totally dirty in their marriage, but you have to see the difference how she keeps bringing him up on camera and he never ever talks about her. It makes her look pathetic…Precisely why she needs to shut up about it 🤫
I’m heartily sick of Rinna constantly referencing Harry Hamlin (get the name out there, get the name out there! Hustle! ) AND Denise and ‘Charlie’. Every. Freaking. Episode. Even her WEDDING episode! Ffs, have some respect for your new husband! I’ve never liked Rinna. She’s thirsty as heck she’s got her head so far up Erika’s butt it’s sickening and that laugh at her own lame hilarity. ..erk. There were way too many Rinna focused scenes this episode. I am not a blinkered fan of LVP but I still maintain that we’re going to look back at this season in horror that the fraudulent Dorit in her fugly mansion that is barely theirs (i think a company PeeeKaaay is involved with owns or rents a share? ) displaced LVP who is at least an authentic BH housewife.
I’m really not looking forward to LVP in her kitchen anymore. That’s the third scene in as many episodes and that’s enough!
Camille seems to be unleashing season 1 Camille that earned her the ‘Most Hated Housewife ‘ sobriquet all those years ago. Exactly what she was whining about at the restaurant.
I love the word sobriquet.
Am I the only one who hated Kyle’s black one shoulder dress that her right boob was hanging out of? Instead of parading her Hermes bags around, she should invest in a stylist. I don’t think we need to admire all of the women’s clothing styles, but that dress was tasteless.
(If the Hermes bag Rinna passed around was the small bag with a handle, it is well above $5K. More like $10K. At least.)
Looked like an ice skating outfit. Better than the witches outfit from last week. I love how she says Beverly Hills this, Beverly Hills that, she lives in Encino. What a fake show off. LOL
Yeah, I could definitely do without the ongoing, in BH we all…., that’s the BH way. Annoying.
I’ve never been a fan of Camille, but this episode really got me. She seems to lack self-awareness. In this day & age, to make a comment that a woman always “tells someone”??? Shame keeps many people silent – both men & women.
I was raped at the age of 11 by my best friend’s older brother while at a sleepover. He came in the room in the middle of the night & woke me up out of my Winnie the Pooh sleeping bag and motioned for me to follow him. I have always blamed myself for following him. I didn’t tell anyone until the age of 40 when I saw my 11 year-old niece at her birthday party and realized she was a child. No, you don’t always tell. It is too dark. Too shameful. Only with maturity & self-acceptance can many of us talk about it today. Shame on Camille for being so ignorant about abuse at her age. As for Lois, wow! What a survivor!
I’m a big Lisa Rinna fan & Harry Hamlin – they are nearer & dearer after tonight.
Your frank post is well appreciated. And the more women tell their stories, survivors should then not have the shame as they see they are not alone. Not their fault.
I looked up theTrailside Killer after last night’s episode. The Wiki article stated that Lisa’s mom was his first victim and that the attack occurred in 1960. He spent seven years in prison. In 1970, he attempted a kidnapping and spent another seven years in prison. He was accused of committing 10 murders between 1979-1981. He’s been in prison since 1981 and is 88 years old.
Lisa’s mom is a very lucky person and quite remarkable.
Wow. God bless that lady. She’s amazing.
well this show proves what i have been preaching for years. the only real housewives show worth
watching is still, rhny.
Wow, after an episode like this, the Rinna haters are still frothing at the mouth about????? She calls her mom Lois! She calls her husband Harry Hamlin! She laughs too much! I’m surprised they didn’t throw in how she slaps her knee!
QUELLE HORREUR!!
It’s amazing how happy people annoy so many.
But if you have legitimate reasons for not adoring LVP you are a hater.
Rinna was great on WWHL last night too. I was shocked how the issue of the lawsuit against Dorit was brougt up as well as the video from the Bahamas.
I grew up in Manhattan NY and rode the subway as my family’s mode of transportation. There were always the flashers and pervs and we were instructed to ignore it and move away. NBD. One day I was about 9 and saw this well dressed white man jerking off under his briefcase. I felt sorry for him however because I thought he had a rash, his penis was so red. Not long before this incident, feminine hygiene sprays had just come and I sprayed my vagina with Rite Aid thinking it was the same. Oh was that a bad idea. I itched so bad between my legs and you couldn’t just go around scratching your privates in public and living in the city you are always in public! So I assumed jerk off man was in a similar situation. It wasn’t until years later I realized what he was doing 🤔
On another note Camille reminds me of this lastest incident with Brandi, always the victim. They seem stuck in victim mode.
I understood Camille’s point a little better once she essentially said she’s careful not to slander given her experience. BUT. A perspective like hers is very damaging. An incident either happened or it didn’t, and completely unconnected to that is whether the victim tells in a form considered proper by someone like Camille.
Her view is particularly damaging to someone like the woman I know who was a 12yo when she was raped by two men but didn’t tell anyone until her therapist after she had attempted suicide at 29. The therapist urged her to tell, beginning with family, and I could see her struggle when she later told me.
The problem with Camille’s point of view is that it is very condemning of someone like this young girl who already didn’t have a single soul in her life that she could trust with her story and is now blamed by people like this for that as well as the rape. It sickens me in the extreme.
I love Lois! I have no problem with Lisa calling her by her name at all. She’s one of the ladies and it feels inclusive to me. Wow, what a story, truly a remarkable woman.
I wondered immediately where Kyle thought she was going to put groceries in that Vanderhall!?
No words for Camille. How she could turn the hearings into a tale about her is very telling. I hope I can get over that and enjoy the wedding, may be hard now knowing what we know about David.
Did anyone else notice the milk of magnesia bottles in LVP and Ken’s fridge door? Lol!
I guess you’d be laughing at me as well. I’ve got a bottle of MOM myself. Sorry I am ill.
Not at all! It’s more a comment about me, I notice weird things. Plus I didn’t know you’re supposed to refrigerate, I keep mine in the medicine cabinet….
Same here – no fridge necessary! I have to admit, I notice weird things in scenes as well. Especially if I have the same things.
🤗 Hope you’re feeling better soon!
Clearly Lisa nor Ken is using the Milk of Magnesium because they both are full of SHIT!!
Spot on Renee!
I have nothing to add… just here for the comments!
Kyle said ti best to Camille “don’t apologize for your opinions”
Camille had one, and so did the rest of the ladies.
They didn’t get nasty and moved on. THAT’S what’s suppose to happen today.
No one’s right, and no one’s wrong. Opinions,
Camille’s opinion was wrong. It is never okay to victim blame or shame.
not all opinions are valid or equal
Camille’s opinion is wrong and insulting to all victims of sexual assault. And her FUCKING CRYING about some shit someone accused her of years ago as if it was any way relevant or justified the shit coming out of her mouth was ridiculous and disgusting. This is not an opinion like “pistachio is the best flavor of ice cream.” This is a social commentary that degrades victims of sexual assault.
Exactly!! Thank you for saying that
As a victim herself you would think she would get it.
No it wasn’t.
It just wasn’t the opinion you have.
Camille is a conservative. Kelsey is a SUPER conservative. No big surprise that she has that opinion. Disappointing yes but I feel the same way as Rinna. Dr. Blasey Ford was not going to subject herself to a SENATE HEARING if she was not fully committed to her story being the truth. No sane person would put themselves through that level of examination or scrutiny. Its also a deeply personal issue.
After seeing the women bicker at the table we move to Lois’ story. OMG. That was moving. Talk about a survivor. Is that the level of assault that women need to be subjected to in order to believe it happened? Physical wounds? Almost dying? A witness? Because I would guess a majority would not stand up to that burden of proof.
I apologize for the cacophony coming from upstate New York this evening. Do not be concerned. It was merely the sound of me falling out of love with Camille. Go back to Stockholm, Camille, and take your Syndrome with you.
This is perfect!
RE: Camille on Kavanaugh
I wish there were more tolerance to differing views. We all see the world through our own ideological prism based on our life experiences. I’ve read a lot of comments and I am overwhelmed by how many people have been sexually assaulted. I think those who have experienced that will tend to identify with victims, not being believed, and/or unable to report it. That said, I think Camille is seeing Kavanaugh differently because of an experience that impacted her. As TT pointed out she has been a victim of assault but apparently being wrongly accused seems to have a stronger reaction from her.
Personally, I don’t think I will ever regret believing a person is innocent until proven guilty.
Hi XOXO 1968 – it isn’t Camille’s support of Kavanaugh that has my hair on end. It is her reasoning. I respect her right to support either side – but I found her reasoning as to why she found Dr. Ford not credible to be seriously flawed. I can respect your decision to believe Kavanaugh innocent until proven guilty. That is reasoning we can all understand even if we don’t agree with you in this case.
From the beginning, I thought Camille came off as extremely judgmental. From day one – Her treatment of Kyle, her pronouncements on Faye Resnick, and now her pronouncements on how a sex abuse survivor must report a crime to be believed have left me cold to her. The ladies seem to love her so she must have redeeming qualities – I just don’t see them.
I remember that I thought Camille was a horrible person in season 1. And, honestly, I was surprised that she was embraced later knowing that she bought a PR team. To me, that felt disingenuous and I wasn’t ready to believe she wasn’t the person she already showed us (w/o a PR team).
That said, I feel like her reasons are her reasons. She brings her own slant to how she views things — we all do. Something I have thought about since watching RH and finding forums online is how can we all watch the same show and have such different views of what we saw. IMO it is simply the prism colored by our life experiences.
It was interesting seeing the divide when Kim Richards on the show. People who had a toxic person in their family put all of their frustration from their real lives on Kim. Others thought Kyle was jealous of Kim’s early success because, they worked hard when they were young and missed out on a lot.
It is just “our stuff”.
The LVP stans still get under my skin. I know they have their own prisms but … UGH! So, I get where you are coming from. I was just surprised to see so many intolerant of her opinion and why she claims to have come to that opinion.
I think Kelsey really was vicious in the end. But, who knows … maybe he was pushed to that by Season 1 Camille.
I want to know what the morally corrupt Fay Resnick was doing at Camille’s shower!
Love the phrase Morally corrupt Faye Resnick!😆😆😆😆 thanks for reminding me of the gem that Camille once gave us lol
Its a new season. Their besties now.
I had never heard of Sabzee Market, either. But I see that it’s a Middle Eastern market, and that area has a large number of ME expats, especially Iranians. The food looks good. I might have to check it out.
Now I just have to watch the show!
Camille is disgusting. I have no need to ever see her on my television again.
Camille’s opinion is shared by Republicans and Lisa’s is shared by Democrats. It is political, just like Bill Clinton and Monica and Clarence Thomas and Anita. People believe the spin the media places on it as well.
O.J., Robert Blake, Aaron Hernandez and Michael Jackson are innocent in somebody’s opinion.
Some people get away with crimes and others don’t. Justice is not perfect nor is the majority holding a particular view always right.
This country is infamous for the railroading of a multitude of minorities for crimes where public opinion wanted them lynched and burned out of there homes. So, no I wouldn’t believe everything said by anyone nor every news report. People go to great lengths to fabricate stories, payoff politicians, provide false evidence and/or destroy evidence for an agenda.
I can assure you that Camille’s thoughts on Dr. Ford is NOT a Republican position. Also all member of a political party do not agree on all politics or politician within that party. Plenty of Republican women did not want Kavanaugh on the bench.
Camille is just a total piece of shit.
I’m always Last Chance Charlie with these shows,never get to watch when they air – and wow, Camille’s dinner was one of the weirdest out of the whole series to me, and not in a fun way. She’s welcome to her opinion, and while I do think there’s some, er, internalized misogyny mixed in there, mostly Camille’s behavior was in line with people, friends, relatives, who aren’t used to airing their real opinions outside their very closest circle. So the crying seemed more like a release. I feel we need to recognize our different viewpoints without trying to punish or metaphorically kill each other off. And i don’t agree with Camille at all.
I love Rinna, didn’t Lois encourage her kids to call her by her name? Unspeakable crime she experienced. Shit. But another oddity about the dinner was when Rinna had her mom stand up to celebrate her, and Kyle totally pulled focus by squealing about seeing Kim. And then everything that followed was equally strange. LOVED Denise’s reaction while Camille was talking.
Such a weird season. I get that LVP getting blowback from years of annoying her castmates, but wow production really turned on her. Because I feel like this is a planned demolition of Fort Vanderpump. Like, the aggressive wearing of pink by all the cast, Kyle on the swing in the opening, some other things – I find it amusing, it’s an anti-LVP mutiny! And if she returns next season, her status will be different?
Oops, sorry for blogposting!
Camille is a feckless kunt.
I’m a millennial who was raised by parents that could probably be identified as feminists, although I doubt they would label themselves that way. They made me read the Beauty Myth in 9th grade and taught me about consent, and my right to both turn down and choose to have sex. Despite being raised to be open and confident about my body and my right to pleasure and safety, despite having parents and friends I knew would believe and support me I didn’t tell anyone for nearly ten years. I couldn’t comprehend it, I couldn’t bring myself to say the words out loud. So I’m sorry but Camille’s point of view on this matter is incredibly limited. I hope she takes the time to talk to specialists in this area so she can learn that people’s responses to trauma vary vastly.
Only those untouched can remain so unmoved from empathy.
Holy shit. Lisa’s mom was the victim of a serial killer. She survived but that part of the show blocked out all other parts of the show. I can’t imagine.
How ignorant and apathetic to dismiss this type of consciousness of violation of one’s self.
Don’t suprise me I went to hs with Camille . Always the mean girl that is the true Camille you see mocking people . Ruthless gold digger loved off daddy’s money then Kelsey . Pretty outside means nothing . Fact