Patricia Altschul has filed a lawsuit against K. Cooper Ray accusing him of libel and slander. Tamara Tattles has heard for several months about the ongoing feud between K. Cooper Ray and Patricia Altschul. Basically, K. Cooper Ray and Patricia Altschul had a falling just after his last season on the show. My understanding of the situation based on watching them bicker on social media is that K. Cooper Ray feels that Patricia used her influence with Haymaker Productions to keep him off the show. Patricia’s son, Whitney Sudler-Smith is an executive producer of Southern Charm. It’s certainly not beyond the realm of rational thought that was the case.
Bad Blood
There are a few other factors as well. Patricia Altschul is now quite fond of Kathryn Dennis. She left the Thomas Ravenel camp after all sorts of things were brought to her attention about how Thomas Ravenel treated Kathryn Dennis. Particularly with regard seeing her children and the random drug testing at his discretion.
At that same time, K. Cooper Ray went from Camp Kathryn to Team Thomas. This was based on K. Cooper Ray’s personal relationship with Kathryn when she was still using addictive substances. He talked about that time here along with another former friend of Kathryn’s Shelby Dennis.
It appeared to this outsider looking in, that once Kathryn Dennis got a grip on her life and continued to blossom into a loving mother and responsible adult, some of the people who supported her in the dark times were left behind. On the other hand, those who treated her horribly were quickly forgiven. So suffice it to say K. Cooper Ray and Patricia Atlschul do not like each other.
My Personal Bias
At this point I should point out my own feelings and/or relationship with both the plaintiff and the defendant in this case. I’ve never been overly fond of Patricia Altschul. I do not find her to be a genuine person. My position on her has mellowed recently due to some mutual acquaintances that speak highly of Patricia based on their personal knowledge. My opinions of Patricia were based solely on her public persona. For those reasons, I have adopted a more neutral opinion on Patricia.
Conversely, I’ve always thought very highly of K. Cooper Ray. We have a personal relationship. However, he has become a very vocal supporter of Thomas Ravenel. In that role,he has said despicable things about the women who have made serious allegations against Thomas Ravenel. As a sexual assault and abuse survivor, I’ve had difficultly maintaining a friendship with someone who would speak such unconscionable things. It is my hope that when evidence is presented in court he might rethink his allegiances. So likewise, my opinion of K. Cooper Ray is also at a more neutral position.
Vexatious Litigation, A Lesson For Ms. Altshul
Somewhere a law professor will use this case to illustrate textbook vexatious litigation. This sort of lawsuit is the reason the South Carolina Frivolous Civil Proceedings Sanctions Act exists. Vexatious litigation is a type of frivolous lawsuit that is filed with the sole intention to harass or injure the other party.
So let’s look at the court filing. On Monday, April 8th, an attorney filed suit on behalf of Altschul for slander/libel. The filing lists four separate causes of action, so let’s look at them one at a time.
Infliction of Emotional Distress
I literally laughed out loud when I read that Atlschul is claiming,”Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.” That’s a pretty high bar Daniel R. Dalton, attorney for the plaintiff, has set. What on earth has K. Cooper Ray done? Is he waterboarding her? Playing loud music she can’t escape until she cracks admits she is colluding with the Russians? Do tell.
Better yet, how is this emotional distress manifesting in Mrs. Altschul? Has she sought psychiatric treatment for her deteriorating mental health? Has she been institutionalized since she has passed the point that “no reasonable person can endure?” Have men in white come to take her to a sanitarium?
According to this action, K. Cooper Ray’s conduct is so extreme and outrageous it exceeds all reasonable bounds of decency and should be regarded as atrocious and utterly intolerable.
MY GOD! WHAT HAS HE DONE!? WHAT HAS HE DONE????!!??!?!?
Well, Altschul is claiming that K. Cooper Ray called Altschul, a cheater and a liar, said she has substance abuse issues and claims she didn’t author her own book.
This is almost as good as Congressman Devin Nunes suing a parody account on Twitter called Devin Nunes’ Cow for a quarter of a million dollars!
But let’s not be hasty. Counselor Dalton has referred us to social media postings in Exhibit A. Let’s take a look at these posts that have cause Patricia Altschul to suffer beyond what any reasonable person can endure. Shall we?
First of all, these all seem to be comments on website posts or comments on IG. This one is hard to read but it is about a time when K. Cooper Ray was on a public sidewalk reporting on the comings and goings from Altschul’s house while production was filming the first scene of a season of Southern Charm. That is literally all he says. I have no idea what the two random Internet comments has to do with anything. One says his recent snapchat was creepy. This is “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.” #VexatiousLitigation
Seriously?
Someone said some nasty things about Coop on the Internet. How is this “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.” How on earth is this random nasty comment about Cooper remotely related to Patricia??? Where did she find this attorney?
Here Cooper says he ran into Patricia at a charity even, and was polite and respectful. In HIS OPINION she was too drunk to know who he was. How is this “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.”
I feel like I am in some sort of Legal Twilight Zone. It appears that KCR is talking about Patricia but I admit at first I thought he was talking about Kathryn. It’s hard to say. No names are mentioned. However, let’s go with the idea it’s about Patricia. If true he refers to her as Dat Ho, a goldigger, and “a piece.” Again, HOW THE FUCK is this “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.” Also, if it is going to be held up as defamation in court, can she please prove she is not Dat Ho, a piece, or especially a gold digger or that a reasonable person would know these things not to be true. Side Note: Isn’t Dat Ho a comedian?
And finally, he definitely calls her a vile creature. That’s not very nice. But it appears to be HIS OPINION! Then he offers to tell her what is legal. She probably should have taken notice of that.
This is Attorney Dalton’s evidence of libel and defamation. Or as we call it, a day of pleasantries on the Internet. THIS IS HIS LEAD STORY! #VexatiousLitigation
Action 2 Libel and Slander
Okay, surely this action will list how his client was libeled and slandered. Nope. It just says, See Attached.
And it mentions accusing Patricia of “lying, cheating, inappropriate intoxication,” and not being the author of her book. Where are the examples of him accusing her of lying and cheating? I feel like she has lied about a lot of things on camera on national television. I’m not sure what she would be cheating on. Taxes? Boyfriends? Her diet? College Entrance Exams? What? And if the alleged intoxication at the Fireman’s Ball is considered “inappropriate” I don’t want to be appropriate. Who said her alleged intoxication was “inappropriate”?
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As for her book. Only an idiot would think that Patricia wrote the books she has published. Isn’t the ghostwriter listed right there on the cover? None of these reality people write their own books. Well, K. Cooper Ray did. Maybe that is what is causing her “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.“???
Action 3 Misappropriation of Likeness That Appears to Endorse His Business
Well, this should have been your lead story, Mr. Dalton. But where are you exhibits for this part of the filing? If he is promoting the site with Patricia’s name and likeness there should be screenshots, or flyers or some sort of advertising included in your pleading. You have evidence of this, right? Where is it? And if he is using images from Southern Charm, she doesn’t own the rights to those images. Also, she likely signed off her right to sue other castmates and the production company and NBCu for defamation. These things seem problematic.
And let’s say he is standing on the street corner or going on IG live saying COME TO MY SOUTHERN CHARM TOUR, Y’ALL! PATRICIA ALTSCHUL THINKS IT’S THE BEST TOUR IN THE WORLD! And he holds up Poster board with her photo and a caption with I LOVE K. COOPER RAY’S BIKE TOURS! What exactly are Patricia’s damages? How do you plan to prove any of this?
Do you understand the threshold for actual malice?
The statement must be injurious. The whole point of defamation suits are to right an injury to reputation. How are K. Cooper Ray’s little tours injurious to Patricia? Did she lose work? Was she shunned by her Amish community? Has there been a drastic drop in people asking her for selfies? Tell me more about this “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.”
Action 4. Irreparable Harm
Chile please. I’m not even sure that is an actionable thing. You probably should have just put that under action three. Something like “Patricia Altschul’s reputation is such that a guy doing a bike tour of Charleston focused on the filming locations of Southern Charm is causing her “irreparable harm” because she just can’t get the fuck over it.
I think Patricia is confusing her reputation with her feelings. No one with an upstanding reputation in their community does reality TV with pools full of beer coozies shaped like pink swans and drunks falling in bushes and alcoholic ne’er do wells past their prime pissing in the yard.
No one on Southern Charm has a stellar reputation in Charleston. None. Of. Them. They humiliate themselves on at TV for money. They all think they are somehow presenting themselves well. All of them. They are not.
In Conclusion
Patricia has her granny panties in a bunch because she pays way too much attention to K. Cooper Ray. I used to follow K. Cooper Ray and seek out what he was up to. People do this if they are interested in what someone has to say. Then, I was disturbed by some of the things he was saying. So I stopped seeking him out. I think I have seen one video where he was inviting people to his tours. I don’t recall a mention of Patricia. Although there is no law against him mentioning her if he wants to.
Clearly, Patricia is seeking out K. Cooper Ray and she still doesn’t have one piece of evidence that shows defamation. Which indicates this is textbook vexatious litigation where one person with money tries to shut up someone she doesn’t like. This suit is clearly meant to be injurious to the defendant.
It’s a very bad look for someone who falsely thinks she is some sort of member of Charleston society, to punch down at someone who lost their job, lost their apartment, and is just trying to survive. THIS LAWSUIT will damage your reputation. Not some random guy on the Internet who doesn’t have your social media reach. In the interest of justice, the South Carolina Frivolous Civil Proceedings Sanctions Act needs to be enacted and damages should be paid to the defendant.
You should be ashamed of yourself, Patricia.
P.S, I always encourage you to READ THE COMMENTING RULES where I explain you are legally responsible for your comments. Most of these meaningless “exhibits” are actually comments on random sites. There is always someone with nothing but time and money to scour the net for every word ever written about them and file frivolous suits.
It’s about time! Someone needs to educate this guy on Southern manners! 🙂
Yes, because that’s what judges or for. It’s sort of a finishing school combined with a place to run off to when people are mean to you on the Internet.
About Kathryn dropping KCR, sometimes we don’t want to be around people who remind us of bad times. Just a thought because I don’t have a dog in this fight. I do think the Kathryn and Patricia giromance is an attempt at social climbing . And that Ms Atschul is trying to spend KCR into the ground.
Autocorrect wants to change KCR to KFC ?
KFC? Kentucky Fried Chicken? 🙂
I would also think that you wouldn’t also want to be around someone anymore that was around during the “darkest” times of your life, especially if you are trying to crawl out of that deep, dark hole you were in and are trying your hardest to be a good person, and completely turn your life around. Seems KCR only thrives on drama! Especially if he IS up Thomas Ravanell’s ass further than his polo stick was! That is one of the things Kathryn did not want around was DRAMA, with Thomas, of ALL people!!
I know folks gotta eat, but these fucking animated ads and popups are out of control. I can’t even get thru the gd post.
From what I did get, these people must be reallllllly bored.
That’s odd, because I was just thinking “damn, I could go for some Olive Garden!!” She is not doing herself any favors by highlighting this, and if this is the most injurious treatment she has ever received, she has definitely lived a “charmed” life!!
I used to like Cooper on the show. What I think is odd now about him is he continues to present himself like he is an active character on the show while he hasn’t been on in several seasons. He was a bit character for awhile but he wraps himself in the Southern Charm cloak still, evidently to try to turn a buck. In my book, that’s odd, particularly when he takes swipes at the cast and show quite regularly. You can’t bash them on one hand and then try to align yourself with them on the other. Another issue is the company he keeps on social media. He has apparently befriended a cluster of folks that I suspect are the Ashley Bulldogs from last year, or maybe they are just wannabe’s. Maybe it’s their blind support for Thomas and Ashley or their hatred for Kathryn, but it’s strange bedfellows to say the least. I think Cooper is a colorful character but he needs to find another path because he appears desperate to me. When I first saw the headline about Patricia’s lawsuit I was interested to see what things he’s done that I might have missed, but there doesn’t seem to be anything. I will admit I spend WAY TOO MUCH TIME following Southern Charm, but there isn’t any smoking gun here and I don’t think she will be satisfied in how the case is resolved. I think in many ways Patricia and Cooper are very similar people and perhaps they recognize that in each other.
The guy is injured. Wants his share of fame and is willing to befriend anyone who is a willing advocate. No doubt TRAV will eventually become a good buddy!
I thought I’d heard one of the reasons he was dismissed from the show was he was going online before episodes aired to try and give inside information. Not sure if that was tied to another money making pursuit or not. Maybe I’m mistaken about that, but if it’s true that has a to be big no no for any reality franchise and he deserved to be let go. And it appears that him and Thomas ARE very good buddies already.
Most of Patricia’s assaults from Cooper are launched from FB, Twitter, etc.. We don’t see alot of it but . . . it’s happening! Definately . . . . . happening!
So it’s happening but there is no proof? Where is this “Mental and emotional stress that is so severe no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.”???
I taught a Cambodian kid called Dat Ho. I felt for him.
A lot of those comments do make better sense if they were being leveled at Kathryn. Especially the ‘inappropriate drinking’ one. I’m wondering if a clueless paralegal pulled the wrong ones and it’s all got past the subeditors/editors / fact checkers of the 21st century and landed here where more enquiring minds commune daily?
I really hope this is true!! I wanna believe! Either way, I can’t stop laughing. Thank you for this.
Sorry about additional post; need my follow checkmark.
Here in Nevada, we use a somewhat different term for these types of lawsuits: SLAPP, or “strategic lawsuit against public participation”. Casino mogul Steve Wynn was notorious for filing SLAPP suits against people saying things about him that he didn’t want the public to know, and now there’s a perennial Congressional candidate who’s made a habit of filing SLAPP suits against opponents after he loses elections to them.
Patricia’s suit against Cooper sounds to me like a textbook SLAPP suit that’s meant to intimidate him into silence. After all, win or lose, lawsuits take a whole lot of energy, money, and time. Fortunately for Cooper, South Carolina appears to have its own version of an anti-SLAPP law (as we do here), so it should be easier for the judge to dismiss the suit sooner. But even here, it still costs at least $20,000 here in Nevada to file an anti-SLAPP motion, so Patricia probably knows exactly what she’s doing with this suit.
He was using a Bravo scene of him and her on his FB page to promote his tours. She commented and asked him to take it down because she did not agree to allow him to use her to promote the business and ppl would think she endorsed it which he refused and a ? show ensued. I can honestly say by reading his responses to her he’s a nasty vile man and her responses to him were respectable .He refused to take it down, btw the clip is property of Bravo, and she said if it’s not taken down he would hear from her lawyers . Idk if he has taken it down yet but it was still up the last time I checked a couple months ago.
Patricia has no legal authority over Bravo clips. #VexatiousLitigation
Does anyone know exactly how Cooper makes a living?
The tours that Patricia is so kindly drawing attention to.
I was going to add not a very good living since he got evicted from what appeared to be a garage apartment if my memory serves from one of TT’s previous posts! Thank you for always keeping us full of tea!
Thank you, TT.
Not one of these people are Charlstonians and that’s a huge deal in Charleston. Katheryn probably has the best pedigree.
Honestly I think K. Cooper Ray and Patricia just need to go back in their own corners of the ring and hush.
Stop talking.
Patricia is trying to pass herself off as this pillar of southern charm and she simply isn’t from the south. Living in Virginia for a short time? No. And hijacking your ex’s artifacts is just appalling.
Patricia was born in Florida, raised in Virginia, and went to college in Alabama. I’d say she qualifies as a southerner.
You’d be wrong.
How is that, exactly?
Florida is not a Southern gentility state… nor is Virginia (near dc). Alabama absolutely drips with it… but if college makes her a belle I get to be one for paying taxes to the state of GA for 7 years too!!
Wow, I did not know that. I need to google what makes one Southern because clearly living in the south doesn’t. Which states are considered Southern gentility states?
Well, excuuuuuuuse me! The Capitol of the. Confederate States just happens to be, ahem, RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, It’s a damn good thing the FFVs don’t read this site that I am aware of or a vexatious lawsuit would be coming your way. Just because NOVA has been infested with Yankees and other vermin does not make it any less Southern.
Virginia is Southern from the Piedmont area on down. And Miss Patricia was raised in Richmond. She did graduate work at GW in DC. But grew up further south.
she didn’t go to school in Alabama that was her father
You’re right, I read her wiki wrong.
I agree that Patricia isn’t southern by Charleston standards. If you haven’t been in that town for five generations, you cannot be buried in the graveyard at the church. It’s funny that Kathryn has been treated the worst by these interlopers, but she has the best Charleston pedigree. Other than maybe T-Rav who still has plantation mentality.
JoJo is correct, and I had to laugh. You guys can keep her! She is a true half baked Yankee Doodle, and fits right in with these nut bags, lol. The only thing that makes these folks tolerable is good works and charitable relationships with their “adoptive” communities.
Sorry but no.
She’s not a southerner. Sarasota and Washington DC are not the south.
Florida isn’t in the South?
No. Not even a bit.
Really? As a Southerner I’ve always considered Florida to be in the South. I live in New Orleans, is that not considered the south either?
Florida is like a mirror image of the US coast, flipped down. North Florida is like the South, but South Florida is like New York/New Jersey. So many people in Florida are from some other state or country. Only a few people in the northern part of Florida are culturally Southern; the rest are culturally like wherever they came from. Florida really is a thing unto itself.
If Florida is one of the featured states in the Bible that is Southern Living, it is a Southern State. Texas is also included.
Florida may be considered a “thing unto itself” but a good chunk of it is Southern. Florida was a member of the Confederacy. Some parts of the state have been settled by people of European descent since before statehood. My family have held land in Florida since the Territory days (North FL, below the GA state line). I was expected to, and participated in Beauty Pageants. I attended Mississippi University for Women and graduated from Florida State University.
Depending on where you were raised and WHO raised you, Florida is a part of the “gentility south.” So, pshaw and pish-tosh to Florida haters 🙂
You’re reinforcing my point: North Florida is like the South, the rest is not. (I lived in Central Florida for 23 years.)
YES! love this! my Grandmother’s family was from Milton, Fla. in the panhandle and most certainly Southern.
Florida was the third state to secede from the Union to join the Confederacy.
It’s ABSOLUTELY “the South” both literally and figuratively.
Many people don’t know that Miami was the singlemost segregated city in the US. There used to be a literal WALL to seperate the white from the black section of town (Overtown, then known as “Colored Town”).
The AME church one block from my house in Key West had been burned down by the KKK in the 30’s. That’s about as “Southern” as you can get.
That history and its effects are all over the State of Florida today. Just because Broward County, where you live, has a lot of transplants and snowbirds doesn’t mean it’s not “The South”. The same can be said for Metro Atlanta. Does that mean Georgia is not “The South” either?
Only geographically speaking.
Please enlighten me on the guidelines to being a southerner. I’m not snarking, I genuinely want to know.
Anywhere north of Orlando
They must have actively fought in the Great War of Northern aggression. Florida is more of a state that was settled by the Spanish and then made Popular by the rich tycoons in the early 1900s as a vacation spot.
Are you FROM Florida? My family were pioneers in the crazed wilderness of this state. The east coast was a tycoon playground, not the north and the north central parts of the state.
In that case, Janabanana, I’m sure you’re aware that FL was the third of the original 7 states of the Confederacy, and did, in fact, actively fight in the Civil War?
There were also battles faught in FL, such as the Battle of Olustee and the Battle of Santa Rosa Island. I’m sure you were aware of that, too, right?
Floridians, those who live in Gainesville and up including the panhandle are southern. Thats all folks.
Karebear. Being born in Texas but raised in Tallahassee I always assumed I was a southerne. I guess I have been living a lie.
FYI- I secretly always wanted to be born in London. ?
Mustn’t thou change thy accent, milady?! ?
@JoJo: Patricia was raised in Richmond, VA, the capital of the Confederacy. It’s also where English speaking America began (1607). If VA isn’t the south/gentility then nothing is.
Also, George Washington University (GWU) has a campus in VA.
No, Virginia is considered more of an Eastern State like Maryland or Delaware.
Texas is the South but it is its own kind of South.
Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee.
Kentucky, Oklahoma, and Arkansas are kind of weird southern states.
I think you have to have an SEC school to qualify as the South.
I think I have to disagree, respectfully so, that VA isn’t southern. VA is big geographically and has a lot of areas with southern accents and true southern charm. I’ll give you Northern Virginia is an entirely different bird altogether. I lived in Fairfax (NoVa) for 7 years and got called out on my accent a lot. Between the federal government, contractors, military and diplomats, the DC/MD/VA area is extremely transient and as culturally diverse as anywhere. In 7 years, I may have met 2 people who were actually raised in NoVa. I was, however, a member of that bastion of 20th century southern charm—the Junior League. You can’t get much more genteel than that in the south.
I think there are a lot of old families in Richmond, Charlottesville and even Roanoke who would take offense with being told they aren’t southern—not to mention Colonial Williamsburg.
Not to mention the FFVs along Route 5 in Charles City County better known as the James River Plantations.
I do need to clarify that VA is considered mid-Atlantic as a geographic location. Still a lot of culturally southern people.
I also lived in CT that is geographically and historically considered New England. However, Fairfield County borders Westchester County, NY and is a 50 minute commuter train ride from midtown Manhattan. That hardly qualifies as New England in the same way as MA and ME. I also lived near New Haven. The people there are decidedly New Englanders as a general rule.
Anything south of the Mason-Dixon Line is the South. Period.
I’m from Fairfield County. It’s in New England. I promise.
Upper South, Deep South and Southwestern. And Northern Florida is the redneck South.
To say that Virginia, THE CAPITAL OF THE CONFEDERACY, isn’t a Southern state, is just plain ignorance. It seems you’ve never been there.
Ever heard of the Mason-Dixon Line?
Virginia is well below it.
I could go on and on, but I’ll leave it at that.
You seem to be defining “Southern” by some arbitrary standard that exists only in a Margaret Mitchell-esque fever dream, rather than in any reality.
Amen sister!
Considering Im a Charlestonian by birth, grew up in South Carolina, and can trace my roots back on my mother’s side in Charleston to the Revolutionary War, and every female in my family has come out at St. Cecilia, I think I’ve got a pretty good grasp on the South.
That’s a far cry from ignorance.
You have an elite and expert view of Charleston not necessarily of the whole South. I also grew up in South Carolina and am a member of the DAR and the Daughters of the Confederacy which traces from the VP of said Confederacy. I would say that Richmond VA is certainly the South as is Florida. They may not conform to your St. Cecilia definitions but 99.9999% of the South the rest of us live in is reality. Charleston isn’t the ONLY model for Southern (GASP!!!)
Well, I was born in the backseat of a Greyhound bus rolling down Highway 41 and even I know better than to tell a native Virginian that he/she’s not a true southerner. 😉
Virginia is a southern state and I respectfully disagree with the comments stating otherwise. Is this like those conspiracy theories where people do not believe we landed on the moon? I find it amazing that anyone would say VA is not a southern state; while referencing NOVA and the Eastern Shore, as examples to support that logic baffles me. Show me any state, particularly in the south that does not and has not experienced migration since the Civil War? The areas of NOVA & Hampton Roads Virginia have now and had then a strong government presence. Virginia is a large and diverse state in regards to: economy & landscape. It was and still is a focal point and stronghold during past wars and any in the future. You cannot step into VA and not be aware of that and actually see the impact from both the Revolutionary War (thank you, Yorktown for ensuring we are independent Americans) and Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy. They city of Richmond was burned during the civil war; Robert E. Lee surrendered in VA; and there are battlefields and trails all over VA ; not to mention that Richmond has the Hollywod Cemetery for Jefferson Davis and other confederate state politicans. Just because someone sees NOVA and decides to place a narrow and broad opinion as the critera to disqualify VA as a southern state is ridiculous. I suggest you hop off the interstate and you will see plenty of southerness. I cannot believe this is even a discussion and that anyone would have to explain this considering, the vast amount of history tied to VA and the role VA played in the civil war. Talk about taking an opinion and then stating it as if it was a fact does not rewrite history or change the present reality that Virginia is a southern state.
Well said, Lisa!
Not one person on the show is from Charleston? This will be news to the Ravenel family. And we have been around the block here on what is “the south”. Florida, at the time Patricia was born, was absolutely southern. The influx of Yankees came mainly after WWI and it took decades. If you’re going to say Florida isn’t southern you’re going to have to also contend that Texas isn’t the southwest because the populations have shifted over the last 70 years.
I was born in Sarasota. I’m 40 now, and it was DEFINITELY southern until about 15-20 years ago when the retirees came and blew that place up. Might as well be Boca. Either way, reality TV is no place for the elite (southern or not).
There are no Ravenel family members on Southern Charm and that is exactly the way the Ravenel family would like it.
There are at least two. Their father is Thomas Ravenel.
WWII.
Next you will be telling us AGAIN how Thomas is just a loveable lout.
Love you Tam but your feelings for Cooper are clouding your vision or you haven’t seen all of what Cooper has done to Patricia. It’s incessant. He’s a vile person. Needs to be stopped. Go Patricia
This has nothing to do with anyone’s opinion. See, this is a court filing. It is up to the plaintiff to prove their case. In the filing they need to show some sort of CAUSE for their 4 actions. They also have to show that the actions were injurious. The filing failed in all respects and should be thrown out of court.
The Internet is full of assholes. I’ve had everything under the sun said about me, my family, my website, photos of “me” posted, I’ve been doxxed to hell and back. I had plenty of actionable, illegal things occur on the Internet. I do not seek these people out to see what they are saying today. I keep records, I document and I go on about my business because my time is valuable and can either go about my business or I can whine to the court system. I have better things to do with my time. I have documentation going back years. It’s there should I choose to use it, but frankly I don’t have any interaction with those people.
But if I went to to court, I have evidence of actionable behavior. This is one of the most hysterical filings I have ever read. Someone called her Dat Ho on the Internet and promised to show her what is legal and fair? Or said they saw her at a charity event where she appeared to “lit” to know who they were?
Where is the PROOF in the filing of any actionable behavior and more importantly how exactly was she injured by the behavior.
The legal system and based on provable facts and provable damages. It’s not a judge’s job to take the moral inventory of the litigants and determine who has the better character. These sort of LOOK AT ME frivolous lawsuits filed solely to financial damage the defendant are illegal.
You know more about me than filings but I’d think an attn’y would want to show just enough to justify the case but not too much until needed. I’m in Cali which has same SLAPP statutes the Nevada guy talked about. I agree w/ everything he wrote based on the attachments you posted from the filing. But all those videos of Cooper talking can’t be attached on paper as exhibits. That’s where the most slanderous things are.
You were EXTREMELY clear and laid that case out like a table setting at Patricia’s!! (Minus the copulating alligators). You have a really great legal mind and I for one am very impressed. You could not have been clearer. You spoon fed it to us for Gods sake!! Thanks for all your efforts, they did not go unnoticed. “So severe, no reasonable person could be expected to endure it.” Jesus.
Um, you mean from the first or second season? Those comments? The ones from before any allegations? Yeah. And I think I called him a roue’. Still fits.
Well that settles the question of Virginia, with its very own Lee-Jackson day. ?
Well hell’s bells. This landed in the wrong spot.
Katherine,
OMG I couldn’t believe that comment either. Just…WHAT?
But of course, your response was so much better than mine.
Yours was pretty spot on. Should also say that Lee-Jackson Day is Virginia’s substitute for Martin Luther King Day.
IDK, but I’ve been munching popcorn and watching the volleys regarding real southerners and such! Wow!
Suing someone with 8k followers (nothing to sneeze at but a fraction of Pat’s following) just brings about the Streisand effect. Now I will forever remember ‘Dat Ho’.
I have had quite the education on Southerners on this comment thread!
I grew up in Pensacola which is sometimes referred to as LA — Lower Alabama. We are more like Alabama/Georgia up there than southern Florida.
Home Depot has been collecting snap shots for more than a year. I’m pretty sure Patricia has a case. 🙂
Your honor, we would now like to present “evidence” from “Home Depot” who much like the plaintiff cannot find anything better to do with her time time become fixated on the defendant. She has a theory that he posts under multiple names and according to “Home Depot” he is colluding with the Russians….
I’m shocked Home Depot’s tweets weren’t included in the exhibit attached to the motion it’s just as ridiculous as “I lived in the building behind his and when I would look into his apartment it was deplorable!”
Aren’t you the one who thinks that court is where you take people to teach them manners on the Internet?
I’m “pretty sure” you don’t understand the law.