Last week’s RHONY recap ended with Luann de Lesseps storming out of the dinner at the Wheatleigh Hotel without even finishing her filet mignon! And, it was all because she didn’t want to sleep in the fish room! That’s so very childish! Luann books a room at the Wheatleigh. Dorinda points out to Ramona that it is unkind of her to mock one of the guestrooms in her home.
Luann returns, because that’s a fifty dollar plate of food, and says that she was offended because she was drunk in that room last year. She doesn’t want to be trigger. I don’t believe her for a minute. And neither does Tinsley Mortimer. I hate that I am on Dorinda’s side for this. Tinsley says she will just give Luann her original room.
Everyone is already sick of Luann de Lesseps entitlement issues. Tinsley takes Barbara Kavovit’s room leaving Barbara to sleep with the fishes. I’ve always said I’d be just fine in any of the rooms these women argue over. I’d just be happy to be on a trip. Now, the interactions with some of these old broads, that would be an issue for me.
Day Two At Blue Stone Manor Summer Camp For The Elderly And Entitled
The Camp Counselor of Blue Stone Manor has arranged for yoga as the morning activity for the campers. This was clearly a request by Luann. Luann is one of those people who makes odd sexual noises during yoga class. This is either super annoying or it gives everyone the giggles. Or both. Except with these three. Ramona and Sonja make sexual comments of their own. If you have never done yoga, it looks like just a bunch of lovely stretches and simple poses. It is actually quite difficult and requires focus. Here is where I would be the entitled bitch punching everyone in the face for making me lose focus.
Dorinda comes in to announce the morning outing. They are going to a museum that has some antiques from the Morgan Estate. Yes, that Morgan Estate. Sonja is going to be in heaven. Dorinda is such a great camp counselor.
Field Trip! We’re Going To Ventford Hall!
I love a good field trip! They were the best days as a student and as a teacher! Ventford Hall used to be a Morgan Estate and still has some of the furnishings from that time. Sonja immediately starts going on and on to the poor tour guide about her relationship to the Morgans. Then she compares her townhouse, which she says is another Morgan House with historical importance, to Ventford Hall. After all of these years, I’m still not sure if Sonja Morgan and Ramona Singer are really dumb or if they think it is cute to pretend to be dumb blondes.
Sonja continues her verbal diarrhea about the Morgans non-stop. Dorinda touched some of the Morgan family letters on display. Sonja asks her to stop. Dorinda tries to get as far away from Sonja as possible. Ramona goes to tell Dorinda that Sonja has gone apeshit. Dorinda really is a good hostess. She simply goes and tells Sonja that it’s time to head back to the manor.
Lunch and Drinks in The Garden By The Pool
The RHONY are getting a totally new look at life at Blue Stone Manor. The weather is warm enough to swim and the pool is heated. It’s really beautiful. Dorinda takes a moment to have private conversation with Luann. She gives Luann a very sincere apology. She says she wants to find her way back to their friendship. They hug it out. Luann could have handled the situation in a more compassionate manner. Then Luann goes to get her outdoor massage.
Et Tu, Barbara?
Barbara arrives to summer camp. It’s Barbara’s first time at the manor. She love it. Barbara’s script clearly calls for her to bitch about the fish room. Do the writers think this is funny? Because it’s super obnoxious. They other ladies were all out enjoying the pool and the spa.
Barbara tells Sonja she is worried about Dorinda kicking her out of Blue Stone Manor just like she kicked her out of her apartment. Meanwhile, Ramona is meangirling Barbara to Dorinda as they watch the conversation. Ramona mocks her boots and her midrift sweater. Ramona is going to talk about how other people dress? Really? Do these conversations really happen with adults? I’m having flashbacks to teaching remedial reading to high schoolers. Then Barbara and Sonja start talking about he fish room. If I were Dorinda I’d be asking people to leave my home right about now.
Bethenny Frankel Comes To Claim Her Bedroom
For the record, Dennis Shields died just a tad over two months before this was filmed. Also, I really missed Bethenny Frankel in the first half of this show. I need her to be around to tell the women how horrendously they are behaving. Barbara is thrilled to see her as well.
Bethenny tells Dorinda that she went to see A Star Is Born and she had no idea it was about pill addiction. I didn’t either, thanks Bethenny. She said she lost it crying. This is why I have no real desire to see the movie. Everyone talks about how sad it is. I really don’t need to pay money to find things to cry about. I’m trying to focus on things that make me happy. Dorinda is a really good friend to Bethenny.
Dorinda catches Bethenny up on all the drama. When she says no one wants to stay in the fish room, Bethenny volunteers. So it seems Bethenny did not in fact demand the best room. When she finds out Luann was trash talking Bethenny about getting the best room, she’s pissed. Oh here we go. It’s going to be that RHONY Berkshires trip where Bethenny eviscerates Luann all over again. I hated Bethenny that season.
The Bear Naked Chef
Art Smith has arrived with the Bear Naked Chef in tow. The RHONY are not worthy. Ah, the real reason Bethenny Frankel is pissed at Luann is because Lu left the rehab Bethenny set up for her two weeks early to do her Cabaret show. Bethenny says this in a talking head that was likely filmed much later in the season. This means that Bethenny and Luann must have a serious falling out. And what more likely place for that to happen than Blue Stone Manor. This will not end well. It also explains why Luann is acting like such a twat. It’s quite possible she is not sober.
Bethenny vents to Dorinda about Luann. Bethenny is starting to feel like her relationship with Luann is the same as the one she had with her mother. She says after Dennis died, Lu would just go on and on about her Cabaret show and never mentioned Dennis. Bethenny feels like she has been taking care of Lu like she did her mother and both of them trashed her publicly afterward.
This One Goes To Eleven
Sonja is already wasted and hitting on Bethenny. Ramona drunk and flirting with herself in the mirror. I don’t think there is any more rosé in the Manor. Drunk Sonja and Tinsley are drinking in the kitchen, much to the chagrin of Art Smith who has to be questioning why he took this gig. Dorinda’s kitchen is like a gallery style kitchen. It’s very close quarters.
Ramona and Sonja are not fond of the body hair on the BEAR Naked Chef. Doesn’t Sonja claim to have a lot of gay friends? Sonja and Ramona are both wasted. They have one of the best chefs in the country there overseeing their dinner and they don’t even know what they are eating.
While Lu and Dorinda step outside for a smoke break, Sonja has a full on hysterical freak out thinking about Dorinda touching the “Morgan letters” at Ventford Hall. Sonja needs to be put to bed. In the fish room.
Next week’s RHONY recap will unfortunately pick up at this drunken moment of the evening. Luann continues to trash talk Bethenny to anyone who will listen. Tinsley breaks down to Luann about her father abandoning her for alcohol. Dorinda and Barbara’s truce falls apart. Bethenny dares Tinsley to call Scott and tell him he is the love of her life.
Thank you for the recap. I am looking forward to seeing it later this week.
I kinda love Bethenny. Without B I am not sure I would be that interested in RHONY.
I’ve secretly suspected LuAnn wasn’t sober. I think she is trying to look sober for the court and public. I don’t think any of the RHONY women mind over-indulging with alcohol or sex and behaving like they’re in a fraternity.
XOXO1968: My thoughts exactly. I don’t think she’s sober either. I do, however, think that she needs to tell herself over and over “Money Can’t Buy You Class – Elegance is Learned” because she has neither. Class, nor elegance. She is such a wanna-be fake blowhard.
Luanne does not act like a person who puts sobriety as a top priority. She needs humility. She will never get and stay sober until she focuses on this goal beyond all else. The cabaret stuff needs to be put on hold. She needs therapy, meetings, and some sort of program.
What else can I say: Dorinda made it nice (again)!
No really, I’ve always had a soft spot for Dorinda, and I’m glad producers (thus far) aren’t giving her the kind of rough edit they gave her last season. We’ve seen Luann go “full Countess mode” in past seasons, so it’s very possible we’re seeing Lu take the cabaret act too far now. Especially if it’s getting in the way of her sobriety, Lu needs to reassess how she’s handling her recovery.
Overall, it appears that this is the beginning of the RHONY Season 11 realignment. Judging by who seems to be interacting with each other on social media the most now, I figured Bethenny would eventually rejoin forces with Dorinda as they both vented about Luann. I’ve been trying my best to give Lu the benefit of the doubt. But between the actual RHONY show and what’s been happening since filming wrapped up, I see where Bethenny and Dorinda are coming from.
I have tried to like Lu, but her entitled, self-absorbed act is TOO much. Bethenny should be offended by Lu’s lack of compassion. If this was only filmed 2 months after Dennis’s passing, I’m sure she was still coping with his death. I think the ladies should have let Lu stay at the hotel. They may have felt they needed to keep eyes on her. I just think they all acted in such an abhorrent manner as guests in Dorinda’s home knowing she tries to “make it nice.” I’ve really felt bad for Dorinda the last 2 episodes because of the women insulting her home. I was glad when Bethenny arrived as TT said she needs to be there to school the others on their behavior.
I agree with both of your statements. I too have tried to like Lu but just can’t. Bethenny called it a few seasons ago when she said Lu is unlikable. Dorinda gave Lu a sincere apology and of course Lu doesn’t any of her part in the fall out. I love Tinsley’s grace and manners but hated her decision to give Luann her room. Lu is the type of person that can’t handle grace, it simply feeds her delusion of grandeur.
Tinsley is just so nice… Maybe too nice to the rest of the RHONY cast.
Meanwhile, it’s startling to see Bethenny crack. Considering everything she’s been going through, the last thing Bethenny needed was Luann throwing her after the bus after she helped Lu get back on track in her recovery.
Dorinda redeemed herself in the Berkshires last week and this. It reminded me why I liked her so much 1st season. You were spot about her gracious hosting, apology with LuAnn and support of Bethenny. I hope she keeps it up. She made it nice without telling us so. My only negative takeaway is her $250000 bedroom and $12000 shark. I question the money brag and the decision making.
Sonja was just pitiful. Gotta give it to Ramona for trying to Sonjasit.
I love Bluestone Manor. I do not like scary Halloween decorations.
I interpret that as Dorinda defending herself and her Berkshires house against the various other women’s snide comments on “the fish room”. OMFG, why do they complain about any room in that house?!
When I’ve had to travel to Northern Nevada for work, I’ve stayed with a friend who lives about 15 miles south of Carson City. Sometimes she’s had me stay downstairs, and sometimes she’s put me upstairs. Wherever I land, I’m grateful to be staying there!
Sure, Dorinda could have refrained from humblebragging about her home renovation, but I’m personally willing to cut her slack after Luann, Barbara, and even Ramona whined about the friggin’ fish room, and especially after Luann took it to another level with the diva antics.
Good explanations. The $ comments could have been innocuous but editing made them more apparent. It wasn’t like she was asking anyone to sleep in the cellar or a tent in the yard.
I’m guessing when Dorinda said the shark was $12,000 she was talking about the price of the charter to catch the fish.
FWIW, I’ve heard that the taxidermists who do these fish use very little of the fish.
Catch and release.
@1sttimer: I really think she was talking about the square footage value and not the cost to decorate the fish room. I don’t know what a house like that costs in that location but that is what I have always assumed.
I missed Dorinda saying the shark was 12K. That is just silly.
Yeah. Dorinda was just defending her house not saying she paid that to decorate the room. Good grief.
Barbara threatened to cover one of the sharks in the room and Dorinda told her she might not want to since it cost 12k. I really don’t think that’s all that expensive especially if it was a real one stuffed, but even a replica of that size 12k wouldn’t be out of hand. I’ve seen smaller replicas for close to 700 dollars.
If you watched the episode she also has an antique tortoise shell above one of her tables that looks spectacular, and I’m pretty sure isn’t a replica, which makes me feel sad for the animal, but the value of the item itself I’m sure is not low.
In her great room she has a series of jade figurines that are quite lovely. They showed them in one of the previous outings at her house. Those as well I’m quite sure are not of insignificant value.
Dorinda doesn’t strike me as one to do things on the cheap in her home, and it shows.
You’re right. This episode alone had Dorinda looking like the best person and Lu a totally entitled bitch. I have to think it’s scripted. Dorinda talking about how Lu isn’t self-aware is rich indeed, but here, she was right. I didn’t understand how the women could all sit with wine glasses in that bedroom in front of Lu. Not cool. Show some support. I feel the women, scripted or not, on the shark room. It’s gross, doesn’t go with the decor in the house and must’ve been something Richard liked that she relented to but made him leave it in that room rather than her beautiful home.
Lady Morgan is the gift that keeps giving. I think her Blanche DuBois impersonation was fake, but still funny. Her drinking is out of control and I’m sure worse because she doesn’t eat much. Ramona actually made sense in this episode and I agree, how bad could B feel about Dennis when she’s already with her new boyfriend in Boston? But B was right about the room. Lu was wrong. Can’t wait until next week with more Sonja meltdown. And did anyone else find her comment about John and Dorinda not wanting him because Hess nobody particularly harsh? And I’m no fan of John’s, believe me.
That was because HE’S a nobody. Autocorrect. And Sonja also made me laugh saying there’s a budget Dorinda has for upkeep of Blue Stone Manor. Dorinda had to have gotten a huge chunk of money from Richard. B said I think season 1 that Dorinda is a sharp cookie and sold his business. He had 3 kids, and was only married to her like 4 years, plus they lived together just a few before that and they didn’t have children. He had to have left her a fortune to afford her lifestyle and what it takes to keep that house. I also remember an episode where she had a “memorial” for Richard attended by her parents and Hannah. She says she invited his kids, but they couldn’t make it. Uh-huh. I’m sure they can’t be happy about him leaving her so much for such a short relationship, relatively speaking.
I could have sworn she said her dad bought Blue Stone Manor. I thought he was a contractor and worked on the house then went on to own it. Am I completely imagining that?
I may be wrong, but I believe she said how she told her family that one day she will own that famous house on the hill. That Richard bought it as a wedding gift to her and her dad had only walked in the contractors’ entrance for years because he was an electrician and she told him- no dad, you can come in the main entrance now. A real Cinderella story so that’s why I remember. I actually curious and googled. Richard co-founded a business for wealthy investors and served as George Soros’ advisor. Wow. It had branches all over the world. He had to have had mad, mad Benjamins. Incredible.
I think you’re right. I vaguely remember that now.
Um, she sings in BARS where people are DRINKING and the women are supposed to be under prohibition because of Lu?
A bit of a confession here I have to admit to thinking why are they letting people touch the letters a couple of seconds before Sonja mentioned the same. Which I think, and admittedly I’m giving myself a compliment here as well, was a rather astute observation on Sonja’s part. On consideration I concluded they must be replicas of the original letters, or tour guides are emphatic about not letting guests touch them.
The issue I have with Sonja is that they show her fingering other objects in the house after she just finished remarking about the deleterious effects of allowing hundreds, perhaps thousands of hands touching items over time.
Still I feel sad for Sonja, she’s attempting to maintain a connection to the Morgan name and to her Dorinda seems to be downplaying and disregarding the connection both with respect to her use of the coat of arms on the slippers she was wearing, and now casual disrespect for Morgan family historic documents.
My mother always said the gift should not draw attention to the giver. Yes Bethenny it’s nice you got Lu help and yes she’s acting entitled but to tout you as the lord and Christ, eh not a great look.
I cringed a little when she said that. And I am a huge B fan. Sometimes her delivery is so off but I am always rooting for her.
When the gift is saving her life and HER JOB getting her into a nice rehab, she is absolutely right at Luann should not be TRASHING her on TV. Not a bad word about her should come out of her mouth. And it just gets worse throughout the season.
AMEN!!!!
Does anyone know the designer of B sunglasses? I just loved them on her.
I was so jazzed to see those sunglasses because I just ordered some that look like Bethenny’s – and obviously were much less expensive.
Love, love, love these women. They care about each other and have history with each other. They don’t seem to fit into easy molds and aren’t caricatures that are contrived for viewing, in spite of some of the more blatant scripting. Ramona was a good friend to Sonja, and Dorinda was a gem. Last week, I was on the opposite side of the fence. The unpredictability makes it so much more watchable than the RHOBH [glad I am skipping that. I dont want to revisit the Kavanaugh hearings]
Bluestone Manor is incredible. I want to visit. I will stay in the damned shark room! Dorinda must’ve wanted to strangle these bitches for acting so childish and rude.
Lu, Lu, Lu. I think she is going through the motions of rehab because she doesn’t think she really has a problem, that it was a situational problem that will resolve itself. I dont think she or Sonja have ever moved on from their past lives with wealthy spouses. I hope she is more honest in therapy.
Oh, and meant to add that Tins was hilarious describing herself as the runt always getting the hind tit. Hope we see more of that Tinsley this season.
Talk about being triggered. Bringing Sonja to a Morgan residence where she will never live and has to listen to stories about the Morgan “family” was an evil genius producer move. Really cruel. Add alcohol and Sonja is guaranteed to go berserk.k
I just watched WWHL and I thought Bethany handled the Luann questions well. Seems like now she is in a good place with her. I found it very interesting that Bethany set up a longer rehab stay for her. I put my sister in her first rehab, she did not stay and the cycle continued for nine more rehabs. Those were crazy times. Alcoholism is a real thing-I hope Luann can take it serious for her own sake & those around her. The attitude she has seems “off” for someone working a program.
Alcoholism runs in my family; my sister went to rehab twice and it did not end well. Luann reminds me of her. I’ve had to rethink the drinking thing, but haven’t stopped cold turkey, even though I recognize it is a huge waste of time. I hope your sister is well now.
Usually alcoholics have to hit rock bottom before they will truly recover. Luann’s arrest was bad/embarrassing considering the press coverage, but no jail time and then seemingly being rewarded with her cabaret show does not allow her to fully grasp the severity of the situation. Her house in upstate New York may be a place for her to get away and continue with her old behaviors.
Thanks for the recap TT!! Am I the only one who gets annoyed with Sonja for acting like she is a direct blood descendent of the Morgan’s. I get why she kept her married name, because of her daughter, but this is ridiculous This isn’t her family she isn’t a Morgan her daughter is. I’m over her attaching herself to society by way of her ex husband. He didn’t want to be married to her anymore, nor did he want to pay her a divorce settlement. She needs to stop acting like they are besties. I’m so over it.
I kinda get Sonja’s response. She is a part of that history and her daughter is a legacy. My history has some hiccups, not as legendary as hers but I get it in a way.
No she isn’t. She was married to him for a hot minute and she just admitted that they slept in separate bedrooms. She’s not part of any history. She wasn’t even married to him when the Morgan family was rising up to be this great family. She needs to stop kidding herself. She’s nothing but the mother of a Morgan and the ex of a Morgan
That’s not how Sonja remembers it. Dilusional idk maybe but her perception is reality and I’m with Kipper. I get it.
I do not, however, get drunken rage on touching the letters. That’s just just a drunken fit, but it tells me she has many regrets. Perhaps regrets about not realizing what she had until it was gone. And many of us are guilty of that as well. We dont realize what we have til it’s gone.
I think Luann is having a hard time filming sober. It’s very difficult for middle aged, successful people who have drank their entire lives to reconcile that they may be alcoholics and not just “going through a rough time”. She’s in a very specific situation where she can’t take-backsies and start drinking again, not only because of the court system but because the world is watching and now it’s forever going to be part of her identity/storyline to the viewers.
I completely understand why the fish room would bring such a visceral reaction – I’ve worked with people that won’t/can’t go to shopping centers where they used to purchase drugs in the parking lot (it’s always a parking lot). Luann spends so much time focusing on her sobriety that she can’t imagine everyone else ISN’T thinking about it.
Thanks for saying that. You’re right that locations and inanimate objects have very powerful associations for some people and maybe that was it for Lu. TT is undoubtedly right that the room drama is scripted for the rest of them. Lu is clearly struggling and it’s bringing out the worst in her. She’s all the unlikeable things people note about her right now. Dorinda handles it well and deserves commendations. Lu clearly has a long road in front of her.
And yes, TT, “Do these conversations really happen with adults?” unfortunately, they do – all around me and I continue to ask myself just that question each and every time.
Also, I’m still on track with the Fat Tuesday resolutions and following progress there, I just can’t comment because I can barely load the page any longer. Congratulations TT on your efforts and progress.
cannot take luanne. omg when she tried to get away w/ taking her kids share of
their family home, that the dad, gave up, and left it for luanne and the kids. she is
so self centered, and thinks because she sings, not well, in some bars, she is all
that. ugh!! and she is def drinking. she will never see herself for who she truly is
until she is in the gutter. i love bethanny still after all these years. barbara is a
phony bore. ramona has her number.
Oh stawp with the fish room! There were cameras, cast members, etc keeping her on her toes. This is a woman who does a Cabaret show FULL OF ALCOHOL drenched audience members, etc. She can handle the fish room. It’s all for show. If a fish room has a visceral reaction and not bars she semi sings in… theres a wire crossing. She just didnt like the fish room, period! She wanted Dorinda to give her the best room as a sign of her bowing to the throne of their friendship revival. Just like she wanted the best room in Colorado, when she went on the trip after she was married and wanted all the women to BOW TO HER and celebrate her life choices. Geez I just got married, you would think you guys would want me to have the best room etc etc… Same thing.
You don’t get to decide what memories or actions affect another person. Why does that even have to be said?
Luann doing a professional gig in a club for a couple hours and then going home is completely different from her spending the night at a friends house for days, in the exact room in which she got loaded in year after year as a RHONY tradition.
Props to Dorinda for holding it all together. I felt so bad for her watching this episode. It takes a special kind of jackass to turn up as a guest to someones home and proceed to insult their decor and tell them the room they’ve offered isn’t good enough. ?
I am continually shocked by the rudeness and crudeness of these women. Tinsley is the only one who is not rude, entitled, crude, or terrible drunk. Are there not any smart, funny, polite, nonalcoholic women in New York?
I was trying to give Barbara a chance, but I do not like her. If Bethenny could dial back her intensity from a 20 to a 7, I would like her, because she is definitely funny–but she is just too intense and brittle. She’s exhausting and constantly wound up, constantly interrupting and not letting people finish their sentence. Dorinda on this episode really managed to hold it together and came off very well, but I know how mean she gets when she drinks.
Tinsley is a bit ditsy, but at least she has some politeness and social skills (which Ramona completely lacks). I think she is the only one I could stand to hang with in real life.
Agree about Bethenny. Dialing down from a 20 would be a great start. She’s witty, insightful, and intelligent but she makes me feel she’s about to come through the screen to use those qualities against me or someone nearby.
I loved the TT bit about Ramona flirting with her reflection. Narcissus 2019.
Did anyone notice that Sonja, after tearing Dorinda down for touching the papers was touching stuff on the table right afterwards? I know paper is more delicate but seriously.
When Sonja was in the bedroom alone I think she put something in her bag. The camara zoomed in on her bag open. Ramona came over to her and escorted her out of the room.
I saw that too. It looked like she took several things.
She may have taken things but she i initially took her readers out of the bag for a closer look at the boxes.
Luann is so “like uncool” now. Stating that she “can and will insult someone to their face” is reprehensible. Yuck!
Poor Sonya. Bless her heart. Anything to do with the Morgans sends her on a fast downward spiral. She really needs to get some help to move on from the Morgan name. Her daughter is a Morgan but she is not.
I love Tinsely’s manners and grace but hate that she wasted them on Lu.
Don’t like Barbara and I hope she’s one and done. Even Luann is already trying to get some distance.
Happy to see the return of the old Dorinda! I hope she’s back to stay and I love seeing Blue Stone Manor in the warm daylight. I’d love to visit and would sleep in any room she offers.
I hope Bethenny finds peace and that her current relationship works for her and Bryn
I finally saw A Star is Born last weekend and was underwhelmed. Maybe it had too much hype. It was OK, but nothing new was added to that oft told tale IMO .
I’ve seen both previous ” A Star is Born” movies years ago and have no desire to see the new one. I know how is ends… pfftt. Same reason I never watched “Titanic”…we all knew how that was going to end, lol.
Did anyone else notice that Barbara and Ramona walk the same?
Like truck drivers.
Thanks for the recap T!! I rented “A star is Born”, I just KNEW I’d love it but noe. Only part I liked was the performance between Lady’s Gaga and Bradley Cooper. “Bohemian Rhapsody ” is uplifting and AMAZING. A definite yes.
Blue Stone Manor is beautiful, especially the grounds. Dorinda must have a staff of at least 10 to take care of it. Nice seeing the home in the fall instead of winter.
Sonja being upset was a combination of things. The old Morgan house reminded her of the albatross that her NY home is. Plus she mentioned she spends $2K/month for storage fees to keep artifacts for Quincy. Then the Morgan-Adams legacy, which Sonja holds onto tightly.
I too wonder if Luann is still drinking. She still has the alcoholic rage going on. I think she will be ashamed of her behaviour once she watches herself on the show. She needs to get her life together. She is un-cool.
Luann is not sober. At least she acts horribly entitled and horribly grandiose. You need humility to get and stay sober. I wanted to be supportive of her but I cannot with her attitude. She needs ongoing therapy with an addictions counselor, work some kind of program, and stay out of bars. This is not the time for this cabaret thing. Stay sober a few years and focus on that alone.
Hasn’t Sonja said on multiple occasions that she and her husband bought their home in 1998?
How is that a historic Morgan home?
Ramona’s nostrils must be ferociously jealous of Sonja’s nostrils. That’s all I got.
Poor Tinsley, the runt of the litter, yet still more gracious than the rest!
HAHAH! I died when she described suckling the hind teet lololol
Wait a minute, did Dorinda just say her house is a Stanford White? This is triggering my Evelyn Nesbit obsession.
Yes I caught that too. Very historic! Wow!
Oh I adore you – I blurted out “Red Velvet Swing!” before I could help myself.
I can’t believe I’m saying but I think Dorinda did an amazing job this week. I was thinking she was beyond hope. She kept her cool and was gracious in light of all the crazy. THAT was the Dorinda we all fell in love with and I hope she stays around for the rest of the season. Luann, well, no so much. She is in a tough spot though – staying a part of the group while sober?? Is that possible? BTW, I do think Dorinda probably paid 12k for the shark & have it installed. The cost of the room was probably way up there, but whether it’s girlie enough for the countess & friends that is another matter!
I just love this Dorinda! I really struggled with my disappointment over her behavior last season because this is the Dorinda I fell in love with and didn’t want good Dorinda to be gone forever! Fingers crossed she keeps it together, she really did make it nice, clearly she knows how to hostess and roll with disgruntled guests with grace and generosity. Blue Manor, no words. Just amazing! The outdoor area and pool? Wow!
I’m really liking Tinsley this season. I never didn’t like her, I just felt she brought very little to the franchise but she’s actually a great balance to the chaos. She’s a very sweet lady, I can’t believe she’s 40! She seems so young to me.
I’m rooting for Lu. Yes, she’s a hot mess right now and not very pleasant to be around but I do hope she gets it together, finds her true self, stops relying on a man and a title for her self worth!
Sonja got triggered. She definitely knows she screwed up a long time ago and misses her old life at times. (I’d bet if she were still married to her ex she’d be miserable beyond belief). She’s moved forward really well in the last few years, she got triggered and I’m sure it hits her hard at times, I am actually sorry for her, “mistakes” of our young adulthood can carry with us for a lifetime.
*probably should have said can haunt us for a lifetime.
Thank you TT, I no longer read around. I’ve become TT site monogamous. LOL, it never gets boring!
If Lu is sober then she is a dry drunk. She is just holding on and not working any program. She has no insight to her problem and she will not be able to stay sober using just willpower. I finally got sucessefully sober 7 years ago and I was and still am very humble and thankful for the people who stuck by me. Giving up drinkinng is finally a feeling of absolute freedom. Lu is angry and resentful. This will not end well.
I love all the NY ladies.
But with Bethenny re: the comments that the girls say (like Lu and what Ramona said about her being in Boston). Honestly I don’t think it’s anything that Bethenny wouldn’t of said. See Beth to me is like LVP, and instead of the British accent, its her quick and comedic way that gives her a pass.
I believe Lu is sober but I definitely think she is a dry drunk right now. Not really embracing a program. Hopefully she’s better now. But also like Dorinda says the uppity countess will always be there.
Money cant buy you class…. I have never seen such rude people. Dorinda invites them into her home, bethenny wont come unless she gets a certain room, (and after all her charity work as of late I’m surprised)
Ramona wont stay unless the pool is up,
LuAnn won’t stay in the fish room….
RUDE ASS PEOPLE…
I cant believe anyone would want these people as their friends
Dorinda, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to stay at your beautiful home…. and I find the fish room incredibly relaxing…
PS the Halloween decorations are AMAZING
I didn’t catch the episode yet, and maybe I am just thinking like the former alcoholic I am, but it sounds like Luann just made an excuse to go and drink unbothered at the hotel.
Lu needs to read her book again. Her behavior was beyond abhorrent. They are all pretty disgusting when it comes to being guests at Dorindas beautiful home. There is not a bad room in the place. The grounds are stunning. The upkeep on that has to be astronomical. It is pristine even when filming is not happening. Her IG photos are lovely during every season of the year.
The Naked Chef was fun…a hairy arse…not so much.
Am I the only jerk that would have let Luann stay at the hotel? I don’t play that martyr game. You don’t like what I have offered and found something else, okay. I am not going to beg anyone to stay at my house, go someplace with me, etc. Dorinda should have called Luann’s bluff and left her at the hotel (with the masseuse and yoga instructor).
I like Luann, but her actions keep on getting worse. She is so entitled. She has no self awareness. She has people helping her and she doesn’t seem to care or appreciate it.
I liked when she was fun, relaxed and humbled. I didn’t even mind when she went crazy when she got married. I figured her love made her nuts. Bethenny is right Luann “life is not a cabaret.”
Ramona was right when she said 14 days is more like a vacation than a rehab. I think she might of needed more time away to get the help she needs.
I didn’t like how she treated Tinsley, telling her to get her luggage out of the room. She was nice enough to give Lu the room, appreciate it!.
Who paid for the rehab? It’s about $30-50 K and I am doubting she has insurance paying because she left before completing the program
Bethenny didn’t “set up”
30 days rehabs are licensed hospitals with protocols.
I would bet that Luann agreed to 30 days at the intervention and then 15 days in abandoned treatment
You hit the nail on the head with the comment about Luann not being sober in parts of tonight’s episode. I think when she showed up the dinner at the hotel she was clearly not sober. You could practically see Ramona salivating because of this and then it’s Ramona who purposely fans the drunken flame by mentioning the “nicest” room being saved for Bethenny.
I loved season 1 Dorinda likely because she got the typical first season good edit, but have thought she was mean and uncouth since then. So I’m with you TT, it says a lot that these women are so rude about accommodations and demands in her home, that I am taking Dorinda’s side here. I would have told them all I could help them make a reservation at the hotel.
When Sonja and the rest of them starting getting water I grabbed my box of cheez it’s and enjoyed the “show”.
I am going left field and mention something no one else has. I was so disgusted with the naked chef and his hairy ass crack. I am too much of a germaphobe. I found it disgusting and I would have never eaten the food.
No me! I would have eaten the food off of his hairy ass crack.
The dearth of fag hags here astounds me. 🙂
I thought he was awesome. I’m a believer!
One of the things I love about Dorinda is that she has really good intuitive insight into people which she occasionally, almost casually, shares. She did a lot of it the first season, and then slowly drifted away from it over the interim. In this episode it’s her insight on Luann. The thing about Dorinda is that while her actions may some times be extreme, they always come off as genuinely what she’s feeling at the moment. There’s no artifice there.
I’m embarrassed for the ladies constantly bitching about the damned Fish Room. Dorinda has the patience of a saint because I would have thrown the entire lot of the thankless, graceless, ill-mannered, discourteous c-satchels the f on out of my house after the second mention, but Dorinda puts up with two days worth of that petty carping.
Did anyone else catch Bethanny’s reaction on walking into the room and seeing The Naked Chef for the first time? Priceless, loved it.
Sonja should probably never be allowed to own a pet. Also Sonja for starters you begin the process of marketing a hairy ass by referring to it as fuzzy. That is unless you’re marketing it to gay men in which case just pay for a Shout on the gay “dating app” Growlr it’ll sell itself at that point.
Tinsley is perfectly lovely.
Barbara tsk tsk tsk that heifer came for a fight. Within minutes of arriving she’s referring to it as the Fish Room. Question is who told her about the hideousnous of the Fish Room…Luann did that shit. Not even sure why since it’s a perfectly fine room. If I’m going to complain about that room, and I wouldn’t, it would be about the color, but given the theme of the room it’s perfectly fine.
“Dorinda puts up with two days worth of that petty carping.” I die.
I have fallen in love with Forum Dude He’s been here like five minutes and has already won my heart.
Thanks.
Same! Thanks ForumDude for summing up my exact same thoughts for me 🙂
OMG! Barbara walking onto the pool scene was like John Wayne strolling into a western scene. Both her and Ramona walk like they have a cob up their butts. All the finest clothing and shoes in the world will not make a pretty scene when the wearer of the clothing walks in them like a neanderthal.
My “unsophisticated” Grandmother from the midwest knew the basic importance of a proper laddie’s walk in heels and taught me how to do so at an early age, yet these women spends $$$$ on fancy heels that they can’t walk in with any grace. Barbara, Ramona and Vicki Gunvalson are the worst high heel walkers.
When Barbara was speaking to Sonja, I thought she was going to start kissing on Lady Morgan. Did their interaction have a super intimate vibe or was it me? Maybe they both have bad hearing and have to stand super close and stare at each other’s lips. Old people problems.
Sonja will make out with anyone when she’s “tipsy” and I believe I heard it here that Barbara doesn’t have a set in stone “preference.” That said I think they were just being naughty and playful for the cameras.
I think Luann is really struggling with the fact that she is an alcoholic when alcohol played such a huge role in her everyday life. I don’t think she has grasped what a big problem it is and how much work it is. As a result she lashes out. She was always entitled since day one but it doesn’t really bother me as I’m not actually dealing with it in real life.
Sonja was making such progress with the Morgan past and this really brought it all back up. Her crying about the letters was really upsetting.
I agree with everyone about dorindas turn around. She is such a fun person. Her therapy and working out and focusing on her health is bringing her back. I also love the blonde hair and leopard shirt In the talking heads and comparing it to Erika’s same get up in her talking head. The nyc girls are not as super polished and I enjoy both takes.
Bethany make up and styling is on point I am loving her style.
Tinsley is growing on me. She is not as dramatic but she has a lot of emotional stuff going on that she never gets to let out. And her mom is always putting her down in a I was just being nice way. That must have been hard to live with so I understand her anxiety.
I was liking Barbara but now she’s getting On My nerves.
I only watch this one and Beverly Hills and they are just so opposite in comparison to culture. Nyc is such direct in your face and tells it like it is. Beverly hill is all subterfuge and never direct. It so interesting.
Bethenny has great style. Loved her outfit when she arrived at Dorinda’s house. Not a fan of the naked chef. Dorinda was more likeable this episode.
I hated Bethenney the Season she slut shamed Lu at Blue Stone too TT. She’s rocking it this time around tho – just like the Dorinda turn around. It’s fun to watch!
And yes, poor Art Smith was like WTF?