Bethenny Frankel and Jason Hoppy are back in the courtroom today as Bethenny tries to get full custody of their daughter, Bryn.
And I wish they weren’t.
Whenever I actively support a particular housewife here, there is always a chorus of idiots, sometimes including Andy Cohen, who decide I am that housewife. Because all the housewives have the time to spend sixteen hours a day talking about stupid reality shows, talk show hosts trolling the gay party circuit, and husbands having babies with their sidepieces.
Andy Cohen fueled speculation that I was either Kenya Moore or paid by Kenya Moore. Then when Kenya left the RHOA, I got a lot richer when I became Bethenny Frankel. Now, I believe I have peaked as I am currently Kyle Richards, a very rich bitch with a very hot husband. I hope I get to stay being her. I don’t think it gets any better than this. So now that I am not Bethenny anymore, I have some things to say.
This entire courtroom drama is a bunch of bullshit. Today Bethenny Frankel has been on the stand crying about Jason Hoppy being mean to her on Facetime in 2015. Get over it Bethenny. For God’s sake, you were not traumatized by Jason Hoppy on Facetime. You were calling him, on his weekend, because it was Mother’s Day weekend and Bryn’s Birthday. That was not your time with Bryn. Just like you don’t let him talk to her half the time he calls when she is with you. Just stop.
Do you really want to talk about what you were doing in 2015? That was the year you dragged Luann de Lesseps hard all season over her dating life. You accused her of dating a married man, while you were dating a married man. That was the year you told everyone with ears that Dorinda Medley and John do cocaine. Then you called Dennis Shield’s daughter in the middle of the reunion to tell her that people were “attacking her character.” You were thick in the crazy in 2015 and this tit for tat court case drama from four years ago is a tactic to bleed the father of your child dry. I don’t think 2015 is a year you should be revisiting to judge the behavior of someone else.
Especially when your testimony is “he was mean to me on Facetime.” Just stop the madness. Do what is right for your daughter and end the feud with Jason Hoppy. This is just ridiculous. And I love me some Bethenny Frankel.
Bethenny needs to let it go. Even having a mediocre parent in your child’s life is better than a married dead guy who OD. Whatever “money” Jason made in child support he has spent and then some in attorney fees. She may think she is the only one who can parent and time after time it is all about her and not the child.
I want Bethenny to be happy but not at her child’s expense. She still wants to be the girl that has all these suitors. Bottom line was Dennis was throwing diamonds at her and he was still connected to is wife and FIVE children. Everyone seems to forget the darling little African-American daughter Dennis and Jill adopted-who became Bryn’s friend.
Bryn needs to learn to be happy with her extended family-not bitter and disfranchised. Bethenny does not seem to know the way,
I applaud the fact Bethenny knows how to brand and make but damn think of the child.
Your basic thought of being happy and satisfied with a situation in life is a good one.
The other comments in there are rather unnecessary. Why comment on David, the number of his children, why say anything about Bryn and her black adopted best friend? That is a horrible way to describe a child. Being adopted and having yourself described as such is hurtful, why mention the color of her skin? I don’t understand?
Please don’t explain, I’m not open minded enough to understand, and you are not alone in your thinking.. .
They should spend all their time and energy into loving Bryn, rather than rehash crap from long ago
I feel for Bethenny because I can say with 100% certainty that Jason would hold it against her if she didn’t try to call her child on Mother’s Day or on her birthday, she can’t win for trying. And for some reason everyone wants her to be the one to give in and let him get away with all his crap. Nobody ever tells him to do the same.
Amen
I agree.
I could not agree more, but the last time I commented, I was accused of being Bethenny. I wish I was her and had her money. LOL
I agree.
Sorry. So you can’t get along with the daddy? Celebrate Mother’s Day when she’s with you, and her birthday, the same. We have two families- Husband is divorced, I am as well. His ex- she crazy, and used to not answer the phone so Daddy couldn’t talk to his kids, told them they couldn’t call him, (until they got older) made the kids keep ALL their stuff at her house- even if we gave it to them, and would insist on all the actual holidays, even when the court order said otherwise. We just worked around it. Celebrated NOT on the real day- they had 2 of everything… We sucked it up, ignored it, and did it for years!!
Adults now- they get it. And they come here first, and often, all the time. I could almost feel sorry for the bitch.
Your experience sounds like it was handled very maturely, and now, like you say, you are reaping the benefits of NOT behaving badly!! Good for you guys!
Judges have a way of wading through all the bs. Hopefully Bethenny will be told that Hoppy being mean to her has nothing to do with how he is as a parent. Bethenny loves her drama though.
I NEED TO READ THE COMMENTING RULES BEFORE POSTING!
I have seen some of the texts that Bethenny has sent to Jason and trust me, girl can give as good as she gets. They are both behaving badly and need to stop it.
Honestly, I’m really surprised she didn’t have her daughter on Mother’s Day. The majority of custody agreements usually give the kids to the mom on Mother’s Day weekend and vice-versa on Father’s Day weekend regardless of whose weekend it is. Co parenting is so freaking hard. It takes a real conscious effort to work at co-parenting and trying to keep the kids first. And if only one parent is doing it, then life is total hell for everybody. As much as I adore Bethany and enjoy her her on the show, I don’t ever see her backing down and trying to co-parent. Those two will drag this out until that poor girl is 18 and Beyond. I think that’s just their personalities.
I think you are 100% correct, I’ve had two sets of friends that have fought bitterly in this manner – going to court and debating every single decision regardless of what the kids actually wanted. I’m going out on a limb here and guessing that it was Jason’s year to be with their daughter on her birthday and it happened to hit on Mothers Day too. And it will be trotted out as evidence of how Bethany was done wrong (or Jason, depending on whose version you hear) forever. Super sad for the child stuck in the middle.
Even if she wins full custody, she’d ruin her relationship with Bryn all on her own.
10-15 years from now, Bryn will hate her.
I agree. Plus we only hear Bethenny’s side on things.
There will be a “mommy dearest” book in the future. Bethenny is doing exactly to her daughter what her mom did to her. The cycle is trying to be repeated by Bethenny.
It’s hard to ignore the parellels. And Bethenny is the opposite of “ self-aware.”
WOW commenting how Bryn will hate her Mom sure is negative. No one knows that, I was thinking what good relationship mother and daughter will have. A matter of perspective.
I agree, Calipatti. There’s a gleeful brutality here that is nauseating.
I agree as well!
If anything, Bethenny seems to be over compensating for her lack of being parented and feeling insecure as a child. She’s not responding with that behavior, she appears to be trying to make up for her rearing and then some for her daughter whom she so obviously adores and is parenting to the best of her abilities.
I hope M&D, Brynn get some serious counseling. Brynn is of an age now where she can start to understand pain, guilt, behavior and anger. In my opinion? She’s too young to have to try to understand what’s happening so she’ll need some outside help now. I also hope things settle down after this last court showdown. Leave it alone guys. Sometimes personal issues don’t get resolved. Not appropriate to try to make a point with your baby in the middle, ever.
It is odd that Bethenny did not have Bryn on Mother’s Day, that’s standard in child custody agreements. Anyway, she’s a control freak and she’s not going to let go till she has full custody and decision-making power. I bet the first thing she does when she gets that is bring her front-and-center onto the TV screen.
Regardless of Bethenny’s flaws, it’s obvious that she loves her daughter. I doubt she would use her like that.
Bryn was born on May 8th. As a divorced mom/single-parent of a daughter also born during the 2nd week of May, Mother’s Day and the child’s birthday often coincide which makes the standard Court division of alternate year birthdays and holiday assignments very difficult.
Bryn’s birthday and Mother’s Day overlapped during that year’s visitation with Jason.
Bryn being with her Dad that year has nothing to do with Bethenny, her parenting, or her particular custody/visitation agreement.
I don’t think these hearings should be out there on the internet, Bryn will probable see the stories one day.
Thank you TT, I agree 100% they need to let it go and move on for their daughter. Either one continuing for anything more than half is being incredulously selfish and not looking for Brynn’s best interest.
Hi Kyle ? LOL
Don’t these fools realize that all of this is out there forever in cyberspace and Brynn, or worse, an adversary, can call this crap up? It should not be public. Poor kid. Parents: Get a freaking clue. Stop this crap!
Given the hostility between these two I am for one of them being given full custody. I know this goes against what most of you think, but I believe it is the best outcome for Bryn given the circumstances. Bethenny and Jason will never be in the mind set to make joint proper decisions regarding Bryn. I don’t know enough about child custody cases to know if what I would like to happen is possible; one parent making all legal, medical, and educational decisions, yet keep the visitation schedule the same at 50/50. I am 100% on Bethenny’s side in this while acknowledging we don’t have enough information to know for certain. I will have to trust the judge here.
I’m sorry TT, can’t completely agree with you. I think Jason is as coo-for-coco-puffs as Bethenny. She is self centred, melodramatic, controlling, attention seeking and projects her shit on the other housewives, however I don’t actually think she is a bad person – unlike Ramona, who is just awful. She can also dish it out as good as Jason gives.
Jason however is quite off – he is possibly even more controlling than Bethenny and violently pissed off over her rejection. He is nearly abusive as Wendy Williams husband.
I like him initially but as I watched BEA I saw him gas light her and manipulate her through her insecurities – he is not a good guy. No responsible father relentlessly emails and harasses his ex wife if he loves his daughter more than he hates his ex.
I do agree for Bryn’s sake it needs to end. Just due to the character of her both her parents I can’t see it happening.
Yaaas! Preach! They need to hire an intermediary to negotiate everything and share custody. I am sure that she is correct in that if she says one thing he will not agree and go the other way. But I can understand why she would be upset because he knows what her position is going to be on a lot of things. For him to go out of his way according to her to feed the child a lot of meat and bacon and things like that, he is clearly doing it to be a contrarian rather than in the interest of bryn’s health. So sad
Are any of you talking about BPD qualified to diagnose BF? Unless you are an experienced clinician treating her you are NOT qualified to make statements about her mental health. BPD is a complex illness rooted in trauma and is often highly stigmatized. The types of comments made here do not help.
She admitted today that she threw water on Jason while he was sleeping. This woman is nuts and textbook Borderline Personality
YES!!! I have been convinced for years now that Bethenny has BPD and am always surprised when it doesn’t get mentioned in the comments of posts about her unstable antics.
I agree that she does seems BPD. Obviously I don’t know for sure. My mother has BPD and it’s a challenge. She’s a wonderful mother in certain ways and very hostile and selfish in others. However she has taught me tremendous patience and how to establish firm boundaries, both of which were ultimately to my benefit. I’m very grateful my parents divorced when I was an adult because the custody battle would have been as bad. The thing is BPD is a legitimate condition and I think we often vilify people who have it. I understand why and how they can be a nightmare, but they are people too and having BPD doesn’t make someone automatically evil. I feel bad for everyone involved in this situation. I hope all three of them have good therapists.
Ahhahahahahaha! If we were to have a pettiest thing you’ve done to your spouse thread, tossing water on him/her while sleeping wouldn’t even make the top 10.
OMG! Great idea. Let’s all spill our tea…
I am not usually one for petty games with the hubs, but some of his daily habits make me stabby. He leaves the medicine cabinet above his sink wide open every day. Just forgets to close it. I usually walk by and close it for him so it never dawns on him that he is doing it. I recently decided to stop doing that just to see if he would notice. Of course, he did notice. Came to me and asked, “Hey, did you know you left my medicine cabinet open? Were you looking for something?” I told him he leaves it open every day of his life and I just got tired of closing it for him all the time. He told me that was crazy. I told him he leaves all his drawers partially open too and never closes them back, which he also denied. So, the next day, I got home before he did and opened all his drawers, bathroom cabinets, kitchen cabinets, laundry room cabinets, etc. and went into my office to wait for him. When he got home, he said, “okay, I get it. You made your point. I promise it will never happen again.”
And the damn medicine cabinet has been open every day since.
Good!!! We do some crazy stuff while cohabiting! Thank you Jane for keeping it real!
LOLOL!!!!
Why do you think she has Borderline PD? What do you mean
Cases like this are the reason I left the practice of family law. Parents with unlimited money waste the court’s time haggling over issues like the Facetime crap Bethenny is dragging everyone through now. No one really looks out for the best interests of the children but they use that principle for every minor infraction that wouldn’t even move the needle in other cases. Yes, Bethenny is classic BPD. Yes, he behaves horribly also. It won’t be long before Bryn is old enough to choose which parent she wants to live with. In most states, that age is 12, but there are exceptions made for children as young as 9-10 under certain circumstances. I have no doubt they both love Bryn. I just wish their love for her made them even marginally reasonable toward one another.
It’s ridiculous that she wants this so “out there.” Some things need to be private ESPECIALLY where children are concerned.
I agree. Daily Mail posted some pics of Bethenny at the courthouse with her boyfriend and she’s sat in the lobby area looking all “distressed” it looks so staged. Then you have photos of Jason walking past the cameras and even a video of him telling them to move aside so he can walk through. She loves the pity party. I love Bethenny Frankel on the show, I follow all her social media so I’m not hating on her I just think she’s lapping up the attention this is giving her.
Jason seems to want to be with Bethenny and is so bitter Betty about it he will do anything to have contact with her. They need to wrap this mess up quickly before Brynn hates both of them.
What happened to the happiness when Brynn was just born and Jason’s parents were always around so proud and happy?
Oh please be Kyle, TT and let me friend you. I’ll friend you agoraphobia style and visit you at your lovely home, it’s a short jaunt from me. I’ll bring the wine and we can stare at Mauricio while spending lots of money online, all while lounging in that great pool.
#AgirlCandream.
In my humble opinion, what Jason does when the press isn’t around is likely as horrible or worse than Bethenny does while the press is around. He lost his cash cow. His only way to her money now is using Bryn. I have watched both of them for years, and know someone who grew up with Jason. He was a self-centered Mama’s boy growing up. His Mom gave into every demand he had and there were never any consequences for him for bad behavior. Jason lets Bethenny get vilified in the press while he just pokes and pokes behind the scenes. I do not understand how 2 people who cannot and likely will never compromise are supposed to make joint decisions on their child. I was married to someone just like Jason and we share a 30 year old. Even after 28 years of divorce he still pokes and pokes then plays the innocent victim when people are looking. The media’s focus always is Bethenny and her actions, but where is the focus on what Jason has done and is doing? Where is the scrutiny on why Jason’s parents are not in court with him if they love their granddaughter so much? Jason and his parents saw on ATM with no family around her and grabbed on. Now that the bank is closed to them, Bryn is their only limited access to the ATM so they will ring every bit of sympathy and money using her.
Sounds like you have a job in the Skinny Girl P. R. Dept.
These questions are very odd. Why on earth would Jason’s parents be at the hearing? And BETHENNY is the one who is refusing to co-parent and keeps going back to court asking for full custody. What has Jason done and what is he doing again?All of her complaints are from 2015!
Ugh, the worst. If either was a grownup and cared about anyone but themselves, this would have ended years ago.
TT, if you want to take a day off from being Kyle Richards? i’m available to sub for you! lol
ahhhh, bethanny. such a freaking whinebag. i was so over her even before she remained and carole radziwill left. i can’t help it! i just loved carole’s obvious tongue-in-cheek “i really don’t care about putting any effort into this sack of lies reality show, but i’ll take the $$$” attitude. it made me chuckle.
Bethenny is a psychopath and is extremely damaged from her own upbringing. She’s recreating that environment with Bryn. Jason is no saint here but put yourself in his shoes. He helped her build her brand and make millions then all of a sudden he’s cut out of her life. I think she drove him to act like a nutcase. Now they’re slapping at each other in court, both looking like fools. She’s bringing the new boyfriend to court to be petty too. Why else would he be there? She needs to knock it off. If she were genuinely interested in what’s best for her daughter she’d stop with the dramatics and settle this quietly. When the marriage ends and there are kids involved, you need to put away your anger and hurt, find yourselves back to the place where you can be friends and get along for the sake of the family that you created. It may not be the family you had envisioned, but it’s the one you have, make it work.
Bethenny is not a psychopath. Outside of all the court drama, she clearly loves Bryn. They both do. Her boyfriend is there because court is difficult and emotionally draining and having emotional support is helpful.
I have a different take on this back and forth courtroom drama of Bethenny and Jason: It’s a ploy. Bethenny is really forcing Jason to pay out his settlement in lawyer’s fees by taking him to court so often. I don’t know Jason’s financials pre-Bethenny but I do know that a good lawyer costs lots of money. Eventually, Jason will be broke and then, Bethenny will take him back to court to request sole custody based on Jason’s no longer being able, to financially support Bryn.
I am also sick of this ex-couple and wish their child could be placed with someone else who could possibly think more of her than her parents do about themselves and/or trying to hurt each other.
Neither one of these adults are being good parents as neither is truly doing what is *best* for their child.
The only one winning in all this petty back and forth are the lawyers on both sides.
She’s only doing this to get out of paying him child support. They doctor said the custody should stay the same and that Bryn is thriving under the current agreement.
I honesty don’t get her. I’ve tried but I find her to be very self-centered person but that could be the whole raised by wolves thing.
I have yet to read a statement or send Jason do an actual interview commenting on this. Maybe he is a jerk but this jerk was good enough to marry and have a baby with. This jerk was also good enough, as she admit on camera, to help her succeed in the start of Skinny Girl. This jerk was good enough to live with when he was footing the bills while her only job was RHONY.
I don’t understand what planet she’s from that would think a man who seemed to really want a child and has been a good father, unless you listen to her, and appears to put the child and not a fling of the week first what man like that would give up full custody of the only child he’ll probably have who was named after his own brother.
Jason wasn’t poor before her and while he may have gotten a little richer with him I look at it as combat pay!
And yes he may be a jerk for his alleged crimes against her but she just admitted she wasn’t all that innocent what with calling him/his family White Trash and for throwing water on him while he slept, well she’s not sure if he was asleep but she did throw water on him.
IMO she wants it all regardless of what is in the best interest of the child. She doesn’t want this kid to have a non-wolf raised childhood so she can basically have this woe is me for the rest of her life. I think she’s also ticked that she can’t have the child on TV because he has said no.
I mean come on now she was engaged to this guy prior to him ever getting a divorce and wasn’t she dating someone else when he passed? I wonder what his wife, technical she still was wasn’t she and his kids think now that he is a storyline on a reality show to be trash talk by Ramona.
I seriously hope they resolve this for the child sake because I don’t see stable in Bethenny’s world.
Wonder if this is the same judge who told Bethenny to quit wearing her four year old’s pajamas. I’m sure they have more than had it with this case.
My first husband left me after four years and two daughters after he started sleeping with a married tramp at his work. The only time I took him to court was when he stopped paying child support. He married again(not the tramp) and he said he couldn’t see the girls because it was hard on his marriage. I married an amazing man, we never talked down about their bio dad but it killed them to find out on their own what a loser he was. When our girls married, they asked my husband to walk them down the aisle. He is grandpa to seven amazing grandkids that my ex has never met. It was a long journey and I am thankful that I handled it the way I did.
Their child is named after his deceased brother. His family will never give up control of her. They see how emotionally charged Bethenny continues to be and feel like they have to ‘save her’ from an unstable mother. I think Bethenny is a good person but she’s easily pushed around emotionally. Just watch how Ramona plays with her. It’s sad. I hope one day she realizes how often it’s used against her and that she gets it under control. Bullies love sensitive people. It’s entertainment for them. Do whatever you can to stop showing your emotions to everyone Bethenny. I’m rooting for you.
I’m sorry. I’m LMAO over the would Bethenny is a sensitive person who is easily pushed around emotionally. You should watch this show called Real Housewives of New York. Bethenny Frankel is on it and is often a bully. Check it out sometime!
If Bethanny thinks Jason and his family are “white trash” why did she marry him? and what does she really think of those less fortunate? Also, does she have a revolving door with men living there with Bryn? This man who stepped out of the shower when Bryn was there apparently had some sexual allegations and was dropped from college.
Sorry, but I have to side with Bethany on this. I do not believe that Jason is capable of co-parenting with Bethany. I believe that Jason is hiding his crazy and Bethany has been holding back on saying anything because of Bryn and she did not want what Jason is doing to come out in such a public way and was hoping that Jason would get over his anger issues to be able to co-parent with her. Per her testimony. Jason forced her hand. Some of it happened last year, but he if he is still unable to co-parent with Bethany which she stated in her testimony- that he makes every decision a full battle – she has every right to fight. Even if a Judge does not give her full custody, I hope they get an arrangement whereby they do not talk to each other.
It is not unusual for a Mother to want to talk to her daughter on Mother’s Day. Even if it was Hoppy’s turn, a good Father should have made sure that Bryn called her Mom on Mother’s Day and vice versa if the situation were reversed. This is a no brainer!
Women who are assertive in their professional lives are not always that way in the personal lives. I have seen it too many times where women who you work with have it all together, but their personal lives are shit.
Living in the real world
What happened to the idea of a guardian ad litem for Bryn? Has this ever been suggested? It is sorely needed in this case for Bryn to have someone to advocate soley on her behalf. It would give the guardIan ad litem an opportunity to interview and observe each parent in relation to Bryn and make a determination/recommendation in Bryn’s best interest.