Before tonight’s episode of RHONY even starts, Ramona Singer, aka The Apologizer apologizes for saying horrendous things about Dennis Shields who passed away only recently. You know what Ramona Singer? If you are constantly apologizing and then doing the same things over and over, people will not want to be around you. You are lucky you are on Dorinda Medley’s team this season, because she is almost as foul as you are. Almost.
Frankly My Dear, I Don’t Give A Clam
Bethenny Frankel and Luann de Lesseps mock Ramona Singer’s party crashing. “I told you she would come. She’s not going to miss a free clam.” “Right? She’s gonna fill up her purse with them.” I love when these two are getting along. Sadly, I don’t think it lasts the whole season. While Ramona sucks up to the hostess thrusting gifts upon her to buy her way in, production plays a Ramona talking head. In the talking head, Ramona says that Barbara Kavovit just isn’t her type of people because she is “masculine and manly.” I’m sure Barbara is thrilled that she won’t have to be pestered by Ramona this season. Oh wait, she’s crashing her party.
Bethenny Frankel lets us know that just before Dennis died, they went out to dinner and he asked her to marry him and gave her a ring. She didn’t say yes. She said there were a lot of issues that needed to be worked out before that could be a possibility. Like his drug addiction, I presume.
Luann de Lesseps wants to confront Ramona Singer about all of her lies and misdeeds towards her but Ramona quickly flees. Unfortunately for her she lands right in the midst of Barbara Kavovit, party hostess. Barbara wastes no time making it clear to Ramona that she has Luann’s back. She says all Dorinda needed to do was call Luann and tell her she was looking forward to seeing her at the clam bake. That didn’t happen. Sonja plays yes man to Barbara while sucking down some clams.
Ramona Continues To Be A Problem
Then Barbara calls out Ramona out for her lies. Since Barbara was with her at one party that she lied about, Ramona moves on to another lie where Barbara was not present. Ramona starts talking about Luann’s lack of accountability. When did Luann pee in Ramona’s cheerios? Never that I know of. It seems that Luann’s sobriety is a major story arc, so Ramona just wants in.
Barbara and Sonja are trying to get Ramona to offer condolences to Bethenny in person. She’s trying to avoid it. I don’t think they should be pushing her to do that. Bethenny is overwhelmed by having people console her everywhere she goes. And Ramona isn’t genuine.
Bethenny talks about a guy she has met who is trying to date her. She says she does want to keep busy but she is terrified she will start crying about Dennis over dinner. I actually think Bethenny had been out to dinner with this guy before Dennis died. But I don’t have a problem with it either way. I’m glad she has found a handsome rich man who seems to care for her. He also has his own money so that is not a concern.
Lobster Gate
Sure enough, Ramona takes a three or four lobsters and a ton of clams back to her house “for Dorinda.” Sonja takes a few clams of her own. Tinsley is mortified that it is even happening. The other two have absolutely not shame or home training. Bethenny and Luann both trash Ramona and Sonja for taking the lobsters. This is all production. I fear it is like the fake storyline on RHOBH about stemware than went on for half a dozen or more episodes last season. I wish production would stop this. These ladies can irritate each other all on their own. Ramona is the worse actress in these situations.
Bethenny, Luann and Barbara laugh hysterically at Sonja and Ramona after they leave. Then Luann takes a swan dive into the pool. Is it a swan dive if you are diving on to a swan? Bethenny hops on one too. Then Barbara gets in the pool with her dress on and Bethenny decides to swim in her outfit. She had come from the beach anyway. Ha! Luann stole my swan dive joke at the end. I am not very original.
Back At Chez Blonde
Dorinda claims she was napping while they were gone but she is very slurry. Tinsley seems to have decided to take Dorinda’s side. Sonja is still defending Luann. Dorinda is mad that Luann said that Dorinda doesn’t admit to having a drinking problem. If I didn’t have a drinking problem that wouldn’t bother me. But this hit dog is howling at the moon. Sonja said that she asked Dennis to help Luann with the issues with her house because he was a very smart guy.
That is when Ramona says it.
“How smart can he be? I mean he was on drugs, come on.” Oh Ramona. Then she says she doesn’t want to talk about Dennis. She wants to honor him and his memory.
Back To The Big Apple
Bethenny talks about doing relief work in the Carolina’s. She really is amazing. People were so happy to get cash cards from Bethenny.
Barbara and Dorinda go to dinner. Dorinda still denies that she heckled Luann at her cabaret show. Dorinda doesn’t seem willing to take any responsibility for her behavior. She knows better than to trash Luann in front of Barbara.
Sonja’s Paper Magazine Party
I had forgotten about Sonja’s weird Paper Magazine thing. It looks like I wrote a post about it so click here if you forgot too. Was the issue about her line of discontinued clothes from Target? All of the other girls are a bit confused as well. Even Sonja.
Tinsley’s mom is there for the event. She has never met a camera she didn’t love .Not even Dr Phil’s.
Dorinda is one of those idiots who doesn’t know what to say when people die so she just blathers on about herself and tries to make is about the person who is suffering the loss. She tries to compare Richard to Dennis. Bethenny points out her relationship with Dennis was far from perfect. It was clear for a long time even to TV viewers that she was not happy in it. Random people would tell me about loud public fights between Dennis and Bethenny on the NYC streets. Bethenny tells Dorinda about the engagement and how Dennis gave Brynn a ring too.
Luann arrives and the fireworks can begin. Dorinda says she is going to make peace with Luann tonight. Dorinda’s boyfriend John shows up. He looks clean and sober. Bethenny on the other hand has had a few and she is trying to get Luann to come over and speak to Dorinda. Bethenny forces Luann to come to Dorinda who is refusing to leave the bar. Luann really doesn’t want to be at the bar but everyone else is too drunk to realize that situation.
To be continued…
Next time, Sonja makes out with a girl at the party. It’s not a drunk college girl makeout. It’s a full throttle makeout session. Ramona’s date tells her it is unnatural for men to be monogamous. Then he tells her judgement is toxic. LOL. I like this guy. I mean as Ramona’s date. He seems like a twit. But, Ramona deserves it. Luann does her community service in a soup kitchen. It seems like Dorinda and Luann sit down with Bethenny to hash out their differences. Dorinda gets pissed at Barbara for telling her that Ramona expected an apology.
Ramona and Dorinda are vile, pathetic losers!
100% agree with you.
me three!!!
I think if Dorinda got sober for real, she’d be a kind person. No evidence, just my thought/hope. Ramona acts as if she has Asperger syndrome.. Socially awkward, can’t read people’s moods,or other clues to their reactions. I knew someone with AS but he wasn’t nearly as extreme as Ramona.
Ramona has none of the symptoms of Asperger’s Syndrome. Ramona is a narcissist.
This show is the best. The whole cast, although I’d prefer Jill to Barbara. Sonja is hilarious, and Ramona is cheaper than the day is long taking pounds of lobster. And you know I’m sure Tate’s likely gave her that pie to bring for free for the shout out. What she said about Dennis is beyond, and she then laughed and rolled her eyes. She’s disgusting.
How is B going from engaged to seeing a guy in her supposed state of despair. She looks like she’s fine but trying to TALK about how broken up she is. Dorinda still delusionally is making herself the victim. Notice B saying Dorinda seemed “tweaked” on the phone earlier? Hmm.
Can anyone explain Lu’s Ulster county home? Is that what she wanted to buy or is that one she bought in addition to the Hampton home and NY apt?
This is the only show I watch every minute because it’s good. They’re all MVPs.
LuAnn still has the home in Sag Harbor that is so beautiful and cozy. I don’t understand why she wanted to sell it. This new home upstate is an addition to her other two. I guess we will find out if it’s the one she wanted for 6 million dollars.
Luann was drinking at the time and not making good choices. She ended up buying a far more modest $1 million dollar abode on the Hudson River in the Hudson Valley while still retaining her Hamptons home.
It sounded to me she was trying for a geographical cure for her alcoholism. Cooler heads prevailed and she made a better choice.
I don’t think it was a bad idea at all for her to move out of The Hamptons. Sometimes a change in geography is needed to get away from all of the old drinking friends and places and start new habits. It was the price tag on the house she wanted and the fact that she didn’t have full rights of ownership over the Hamptons house as collateral that was the problem.
Generally, people in the program (12-step) advise not to make any big changes during the first year of sobriety. Don’t get divorced, don’t move, don’t get married. These are not hard and fast though.
I totally agree with you- watch every second as well! I’m giving Barbara a real chance- I like her good heart, and she doesn’t have an agenda. I like that she’s not all polished like the rest, even though she’s got money. So far, a lot has been set by production, and there is a lot of “canned” stuff- like the tacky lobster thieving- but that’s still hysterical. I’m all in!
You think B looks fine? I mean, at Sonja’s Paper Mag party she clearly had her makeup done, etc. so she was soldiering on and looked good. But at the clambake? She wasn’t ugly by any means, but I thought she looked tired and all cried out. I wanted to hug her and encourage her to eat a little more
Bethenny came to the clam bake straight from swimming in the ocean. I agree she’s not fine. Still.
Oh, I know… I meant that at the clambake she didn’t have makeup on because she was swimming. She had dark circles under her eyes. The other times we’ve seen her swim and sans make up she was more pink too.
That’s how she looks, she has dark circles all the time, I’ve been watching her for years, this isn’t new.
So kind of you to come here and explain Bethenny to Erica on your very first post on this site. We have been waiting for you for so long Aria, This is the first episode of RHONY we have ever watched. We can’t wait to hear about your vast knowledge of the show based on your years of watching. Please, tell us more.
Do I misremember, or did they edit out the worst part of Ramona’s Dennis comments? I was sure the preview showed something like, “It doesn’t matter because he is dead.” If it was edited out of respect for loved ones, I appreciate it. If production got rid of it because of Ramona, that is almost as crappy as her saying it in the first place.
Bethenny’s ring from Dennis was beautiful. I hope she and new man are truly happy.
I agree TT, Dorinda was very slurry home alone…not a good sign. I actually liked Dorinda talking with Bethenny at the party. She showed some empathy and reminded me a little of original Dorinda—before she relished the self aggrandizement of her “fan favorite” status a little too much.
Is it just me, or would anyone else be a little disappointed with styrofoam dishes at a Hamptons clambake? Hopefully Barbara didn’t actually pay too much for the catering, but I didn’t notice any advertising. If you are ever bored one day, look up catering costs in the Hamptons. Even just the platters from Citarella will give your Platinum (or even Black) Amex a workout. Better yet, just look up lobster salad from Loaves and Fishes. Tate’s chocolate chip cookies are good for thin and crispy, but if you really want something great get stuff from Levain.
Ramona…there are no words to express how tactless you are.
On to something less pressing. This is the second woman I’ve seen wearing a silky silver robe as a dress. First, Lala’s crazy get up in wine country and now Bathenny’s dress tonight. I’m a vain woman who likes to know the latest fashion trends. Is this type of dress walking the cat walk this season?
Should I expect Dorit to be prancing in one of these get ups that will be the best at being the worst with some designer’s name stamped across her ass?
I thought Bethenny’s was more of an after swimming outfit more suited for a clambake/pool party.
I really hope I’m not the only one who has/had a friend like Ramona. Completely and consistently inappropriate in every situation. It becomes very embarrassing especially when you call them on it and they then go around asking people point blank…did I embarrass you? What are they supposed to say??? So they go on.
Now. Who brought the caviar? Either way, was dorinda opening cryovaced blinis? Why did I not know about these back when I could afford caviar?
Tinsley’s red sweater with white stars and the V in the back. Anyone else remember the V-back sweaters from The Limited in the ‘80s? Hers looks like an updated Ralph Lauren version, love the fringe. Want one!
Did Ramona just say “how smart can Dennis be? I mean, he was on drugs.” CUNextTuesday.
Am I really only at the 30 minute mark???
But isn’t it a better 30 minutes oppose to last night’s hour with the Beverly Hill women?
What she said about Dennis is unforgivable
Gertie, so true about last night’s RHOBH. It’s been a one-note season for sure.
The sweater is made by wild fox, available at said. They had a post on bravotv.com about it!
Saks – not “said” Aldo available online at Revolve whatever that is
Oh man, I don’t know if I remember those, but the Limited in the 80s was my jam. Especially when it wasn’t the Limited label, but Outback Red.
I still have my leather bomber jacket – my parents couldn’t afford a lot, but I got it (I can’t remember if it was my only birthday gift one year, or if I paid for part of it, or what). I wore the lining out. I know I’ll never fit into it again, which was a goal for a while – if I made it, I was going to have it professionally relined and cleaned. I’m sure there are still a couple of sweaters in my old closet at my parents house (the danger of your parents living in the same house you lived in in high school…)
Did anyone else see Bethenny signed a deal with Mark Burnett and MGM? She’s a freaking dynamo and then does charity work, too. Well done.
Cat37 She really is impressive with her juggling abilities, I would love to be her oldest “intern” just to see how her mind works up close. Especially how she deals with personal charitable pursuits vs. charitable requests.
I believe that is Bethennys success secret, she hires and works with great people. Bethenny seems to make quick decisions (good trait), doesn’t often second quess, and passes those on to people she trusts will carry out her direction.
I also think she works as hard as anyone else in her company… I’ve been support staff before. There were some above me who would drop a load of crap for us to deal with and then swan off not caring that we were also dealing with others stuff. Then there were other ones who didn’t think menial shit was beneath them… the “I can’t do what you do, but can I stuff envelopes or staple papers?” types. Coffee or water wasn’t my job, but they did phone hearings, and I would notice when sometimes that “hour tops” hearing was on its second hour, and slip in a cup of coffee or a bottle of water or just a note “Do you need anything?” One judge noticed that I was slammed one day… next thing I knew my favorite fancy coffee was being placed on my desk – he bought every staff person a latte or mocha. He still had high expectations of us, but he also noticed us. I get the feeling that B is a tough ass boss (I’m not sure I could work for her) but I also bet she notices details like what hot drink they prefer, etc.
Ramona is a vile POS. She is a real disappointment and I would be truly embarrassed to be associated with her. What she said about Dennis was vile and insensitive to his family and his memory. Ramona has no class whatsoever. I would not invite myself to someone’s party, talk sh^t about them and then take several plates of food. I have never been a Bethenny fan but I am liking her this season. Unfortunately I used to love Dorinda and I find her to be a truly horrible person now. Just like TT said, “If I didn’t have a drinking problem that wouldn’t bother me. But this hit dog is howling at the moon”. I feel the exact same way, if I did think I had a drinking problem then the comment would not affect me. There’s obviously some truth to this if she is so hurt.
Prycer, your comments read as if I’d written them myself!! I don’t know how Ramona can live with herself with the awful things she said. I CANNOT wait to see how she explain away her statement come reunion time — you know it will be asked!
Ramona is already trying to back peddle regarding her comment. I cannot wait until Bethenny get’s in her a$$ for that comment.
Don’t take this the wrong way… but I’m kinda in love with you right now.
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TT, I am sorry for referencing Kim K’s rear on the Paper cover in my two earlier attempted posts. I truly thought she was kind of fair game given she paid for that posterior and her fame (and all her sibling’s fame) is based on a sex tape her mother promoted.
I know the frequency of posts are not typical of me, I’ve just have had a bad week and I am wanting to control anything. If only for a minute, hence the multiple posts.
I love your site and I love the people on it—you keep the crazies at bay and the rest of us on point. You put the time, effort, and intelligence into your posts, and I thank you!
Ditto BeetsWhy, sometimes we just need an outlet. It’s all good, here’s to hoping you feel a bit better!
I thought Sonja looked amazing! I just love her, for her, she’s so unique!
Kipper, as the episode progressed I had to eat my words when I thought Sonja looked less than in the Paper pics but she looked amazing in the other prior pics…not sure what pub that was but she looked great!
Thanks for the positive thoughts, much appreciated 🥰
Beetsy, if she can put up with my crazy annoying ass… just sayin’.
“Frankly my dear, I don’t give a clam.” LOVE IT!
Have we already mentioned Ramona’s crooked nose in her talking heads? Wtf is going on there? Bad Botox? Someone finally punched her in the nose for being an asshole? It is so pronounced and distracting.
Only dress stealing Ramona would walk out of a party with 4 lobsters and a bunch of clams.
I’m convinced Ramona has Aspergers.
Yes! I asked last week if people know wtf happened to her nose. I agree. One of her 8 billion procedures gone wrong. I was thinking she had that indentation on her cheek at the reunion that is likely related to some filler or who knows on that same side where the nose is now crooked. It’s BAD. Her nose is crazy now.
I’ve noticed her nose a few years ago and it just seems to get worse as the years to go by
Ramona has some type of personality disorder. She’s like one of those kids that’s pushes to be first in line, grabs the goodie bags at birthday parties and has psychotic jealously. Her drinking amplifies her lack of self awareness.
I agree with your Ramona assesment. I would also say that shes very shallow as Mario is. I cant get over the things Dorinda says about John comparing him to Richard all the time either and acting like she us setteling for second best. I wonder why he tolerates it? He ought to leave her and be with someone who is into him.
I noticed this instantly in her talking heads, not only her nose, but her mouth as well. It seems like her top lip is crooked, lower on her right side. Reminded me of when my m-i-l had Bell’s palsy. Ramona’s isn’t that bad of course but noticeably different for sure.
Ramona’s mouth reminds me of Brandi Glandville’s mouth, way to much botox & fillers!
Omg the title of this post is so funny. I love you, Tamara! I’ll continue reading later unless baby wakes me. Thank you for your work!!!!’ I started visiting you bc of southern charm.. and now I swear to god— visit your site every damn San- as frequently as others that shan’t be named 😉 xo
Ps I still love Lisa Vanderpump 😬🤷🏼♀️😘
Note to self: Don’t ever go on a reality show, because it brings out the absolute worst in everyone.
LuAnn was so rude at the clambake, first chiding the blondes when they were leaving, telling them that Barbara had ordered all this lovely food for them, and then chiding them for taking any of the food. It was clear her goal was just to be unpleasant.
And then it would be one thing to take a plate of food for Dorinda (nice) versus loading up a tote bag full of lobsters and everything else (gauche).
And then Ramona’s comment about Dennis. Beyond. Ramona is so awful!
And then Lu bragging about how she’s such a star and bragging, “All my places are on the water.” She looked so bad in that entire sequence.
Why can’t Dorinda just admit she heckled Lu about Jovani??
I am really not liking Ramona, Lu, or Dorinda.
What has it come to when Tinsley and Sonja seem like the wise, mature ones?
Bethenny’s manic-ness would drive me crazy, but her charitable work is amazing. And she’s funny!
During the I live on the water so I am going to jump on my boat during zombie apocalypse ; ) sequence I thought she looked and sounded like she had been drinking.
I agree!
She was definitely on the sauce. She has developed quite the “tell” . . .
I love your post SD. It says what I was going to say with the exception that I cannot stand Lu. I got sick of her referring to her being a Countess for years and now we are having to listen to her being a Caberet star. NOT!!!!!!!! She is a amazon joke. People are going to see her show strictly out of curiosity.
It’s crazy to watch Sonja being the voice of reason. Bethenny I admire for her charitable work but other than that she drives me up the wall. Her recovery from Dennis’s death was remarkable. It didn’t take her long before she was in another mans arms.
I’ll always remember Sonja being the voice of reason on ‘Scary Island.’ She’s harmless and I love her.
So what exactly is the correct amount of time for someone to grieve before they date someone? Pfft!
It’s not 3 weeks for someone who was the “love of her life”. Heck she didn’t even give it three weeks. She dated the guy before Dennis died
To each his own. I never pass judgment when it comes to any type of grieving.
That doesn’t even make sense – I’m sorry I can’t go out on a date with you because next week my on again, off again boyfriend but always a friend is gonna die. HUH?
The church ladies are here to tell us how to handle grief and dating. Blessed be.
Do your thing, B. No one knows your head or heart.
I remember when Bethenny posted the photo with the ring on Instagram last Spring with no explanation but I assumed it was related to Dennis. It’s too bad how that all played out but love her charitable work and how she tries with her co-stars. Season 7 she tried to help Sonja with her psychosis and she’s trying to help both Lu and Dorinda but they’re both hard to help.
Both Dorinda and Lu refuse see their own mistakes. I get why Dorinda would take offense to Lu telling her to watch her drinking all while Lu was drinking in between stints in rehab, but Dorinda is too viscous and I need this feud to end.
I like the easy breezy that Tinsley brings to this show and how she and Sonja have been the fun ones to watch so far. I think the season may end up with a Tinsley, Bethenny and Sonja team which would be fun to watch.
I have no words for Ramona.
Barbara was 100% correct with what she said to Carole about Lu and Tom but I like to see her support and loyal for Lu and I wish each woman had a real life friend one the show. I think it would make it more interesting
I admit I was switching between this show and PR All stars, especially when I got tired of watching women bickering. Someone clear this up for me: I didn’t think Dennis was divorced , not that it matters at this point .
Bethany looked more tired than usual and almost scary thin. Loved that she provided Hurricane Michael relief. So many lost what little they had. She gets on my nerves, but God bless her for this work. I don’t see the others on any shows taking ownership of anything similar to the relief work. Unless you count LVP dogs. Jk
He was divorced already, I think he and Bethenny truly loves each other and we’re very passionate. That would explain the yelling match’s and on and off again relationship. Also what Bethenny said about things that needed to be ironed out or what have you.
Fwiw Legacy obituary shows him as married to Jill Schwartzman (sp) at death.
Hmm. I thought it had been finalized, and you can put what you want in an obituary. I’ve seen it happen a time or two in our local paper.
It is illegal to put false, pertinent data in an obituary. Any reputable funeral home will do their diligence. I lost my husband 11 months ago and I will never judge anyone’s feelings, but my heart also hurts for Dennis’s family. They didn’t sign up for this.
He was not divorced. The marriage ended years ago, but they just stay married living separately.
Season 9 reunion, LuAnn accused Bethenny of being with a married man. Bethenny was very clear that Dennis and his wife (her friend) had been amicably (I think relatively) separated for a long time. Hence Bethenny thought it ironic when early season 10 LuAnn did not realize who Dennis was when they met at a dinner. Dennis wore a tiger Gucci sweater that Bethenny mocked. By that point, Dennis and Bethenny were connected in the tabloids so that a finalized divorce would have been widely reported. I would assume that divorce was one of the many things Bethenny wanted settled before an announced engagement.
As TT mentioned about them living separate lives, I think LuAnn also mentioned Bethenny sleeping over at Dennis’ house with his wife present or children there or something. I think Bethenny said there was real estate still jointly owned as marital assets that led to such rumors.
His wife also has had a longtime boyfriend. If they were separated and both fine with it, stayed friends (Dennis and his wife) – why couldn’t they all get together for holidays? I know it is rare, but sometimes exes DO remain friends. Plus doing that for the holidays? Great for the kids, even if said kids are adults!
I am already burnt out on LuAnn and her diva attitude. She is such a shooting star. Lady, get over yourself and hire a fashion stylist. LuAnn always look as if she picked out what she was wearing at the last second before leaving.
Dorinda and LuAnn are wrong for taking jabs at each other. Get over it already. Not as bad as puppy gate, but it is getting there.
I am not sure why all was mortified that the ladies took the food to go. Barbara told Sonja she wanted to do it
for Dorinda. Now, Ramona taking over a pound of lobsters and claims to go was uncouth. Ramona is more than a bit much and her comment about Dennis was so tacky.
Agree. They’re giving Luann too much power — and she is loving it.
Lu was trying to get people to lend her the money, six million dollors, for that big house she wanted to buy. I thinks shes a bit crazy and delusional, kinda bipolar acting. Thats the part that freaks me out about her. I also dont agree that shes not an angry drunk, because of how she acted when arrested. Maybe her and Dorinda dont like their similarities. Lu hasnt been an angry drunk on the show, but shes had many angry outbursts off camera with Tom according to him, and she threatened that cop.
Lu is someone I go back and forth on. One season I like her then two seasons later i don’t. I think this is going to be a don’t season. If Ramona lived in the regular world someone surely would have beat her ass by now, or at least given her a good slap.
With you on Lu. I surprise myself in the way vacillate on her. When Bethenny and Carole attacked her so viciously and with such vitriol, I pulled for Lu. Prior to that I was rather neutral, except for Carole’s stupid Princess / Countess contest.. Last night, I disliked her for the same things that others have pointed out before. Idk, but it seems to say more about me and her foil of the moment.
I am the same about Lu, but I am pulling for her after the hot mess she made of her life lately. After the outright lies Ramona spread about her at the reunion, which she glossed over after Barbara called her out, I am not sure I could’ve restrained myself from scratching her eyes out.
As for being a diva, that may grow old. For now, though, it’s nice to see her regaining a sense of self worth and confidence. Why can’t women crow a bit about their successes without judgement?
Lu has never been without her sense of self-worth and confidence. First the whole “I’m a countess” thing, then “I’m getting married, so everyone needs to defer to me,” then “I just got married, so I should have the best room,” then “I’m a cabaret star,” and on and on. When she talks about being blocked from buying the house upstate, it’s very clear she thinks she was entitled to that and resents her kids.
I don’t think it’s a good look for anyone–men or women–to crow about their success.
This the QUALIFIER. “A bit of.” Women historically undervalue themselves.
Thus not this.
Lu can be funny, she wasn’t an angry drinker. She can make a snappy comeback. She never seemed to really hold grudges until this season. She is more appealing when she is vulnerable and not acting like a countess. I think both her and Dorinda really miss the lives they had when they were married, even if Lu’s marriage wasn’t great she liked the lifestyle.
Yes, I’m still pulling for her, it’s just that the qualities you’ve both mentioned that had made her easier to defend were not as evident last night so I understood for the first time the particular ways in which people dislike her. She seemed to be exhibiting that manic behavior that people have been speculating about when she was going on about her real estate holdings. I now wonder if it’s like someone I knew who was bipolar and had behaved badly to many family members before I directly observed the behavior they were talking about and then understood.
Ramona’s comments about Dennis, then lies and slight changes to her lies about Lu when called out – inexcusable. And Dorinda’s denials regarding her own alcoholism won’t do her any favors.
Man, that sounded harsher towards Lu than I intended. I simply meant that I recognize that some of those behaviors are what set people off about her and I wonder if there are things left unsaid. I really felt for her when I saw how very much she did not want to approach the bar, as if she knew she couldn’t trust herself and was in real pain as a result while those around her seemed so oblivious. I was back to why not let Lu have her braggadocious side if it gets her through?
Who knows, Maxie? We could all be sick of her by the end of the season and full of love for Ramona. 😉
Well, that would be an interesting season.
I bet my nose that Ramona will repeat her Dennis comment again, in real time. Probably at the reunion, in some babbling way. “I don’t know that Dennis wasn’t on drugs” shrugs shrugs “But I have friends who saw him at a party. At the Regency. Doing cocaine off of LuAnn’s stomach” I can’t with her. Each city has their delusional housewife and Ramona is NY’s.
Ramona is VILE! Time for her to go! That was the most awful comment I have ever heard from a housewife. She is defending Dorinda being mad about Lu’s reference to Dorinda and alcohol……yet says something like that about Dennis. What a POS! Get her off the screen!
A million times yes! Ramona is a first class cunt.
Was that Lu’s daughter making out with Sonja in the previews?? Whoa.
I was wondering that too. It looked like her hair from the back but, no way right?
Did anyone else think that when John came into the party and saw Dorinda their exchange was more than platonic? I think Dorinda is done with John . If RHONY was on all year, I would be happy! Best franchise, no other comes close!
Yes! I noticed that too! Their greeting definitely seemed a little impersonal for a romantically involved couple. Not that you have to hug and kiss and get all mushy, but they did seem a little off. It definitely wasn’t a warm and fuzzy vibe.
why is Ramona apologizing today to Bethenny for her remark about Dennis? She should be apologizing to Dennis’s family.
Ramona apologized to both, Dennis’s family and Bethenny. Bethenny was just as important to Dennis.
If Ramona cared to change her nasty remarks, she could had years ago. She has never been held accountable where the person did not forgave them.
I thought the time she questioned Bethenny at lunch about what her daughter Bryn thought her sleeping around, would be it for Bethenny. Bethenny forgave her.
Ramona has apologized and all was good. This time Bethenny might take longer to forgive.
And Dorinda went for Lu with the “she’s going back to her kids house” comment! Lu never addresses the fact that she did not set up a trust for her children with the sale of her first hamptons home. The Count gave his half of that sale to the children to be put in a trust. How did Lu afford the upstate home, be it a smaller version of what she wanted? She said a while ago on WWHL that the matter was settled but I don’t think it is.
I appreciated Tins’s excellent manners on display last night. It’s nice to have a reminder that good manners can actually find some air to breathe and survive in a HW world
I felt so bad for Tinsley! Her face when they started loading up hundreds of dollars of food and asking “should we have steak tonight?” was one of pure horror.
It’s moments like that look of horror that make me appreciate what she brings to the show.
Regarding the lobster party debacle: I think Ramona is a piece of work, but LUANN is not given a pass because she’s sober now. Her snippy, rude comments, acting like its her OWN party, dictating that they can’t take lobster to Dorinda, and being a full load bitch is not helping her Countess image, and it is NOT helping her program. She should remove herself if she can’t behave. Wasn’t impressed with the countess.
The first epi of the season of Showtime series Billions, had a dedication to Dennis Shields. I was surprised to see that.
Luann was awful at the clambake. She was incredibly nasty and mean spirited. Looks like she needs to re-read Class with the Countess.”
I’m already bored with this season…between Puppy Gate and the AA members on RHNY…it’s a snooze fest!
The Brunettes were correct-you do not show up at a party and take food to go. Even Dorinda found their early return odd. Ramona was not invited and showed up? Just plain tacky. Sit and eat your food.
Dorinda is a drunken old sot and should not be crying the blues about being called out. It doesn’t matter if it is a drunk or sober person who makes the obvious connection. Dorinda is a messy drunk. Quit talking about how nice and kind she is-she just is not a kind person.
Luann was a little too stoic but someone needs to be the manners police.
Ramona once again showed what a glutton she is. What a disgusting human being.
VV, I totally agree with you.
enough w/nasty luann! dictating who should come to clambake, who she can tolerate. if she’s soo fragile and can’t be around certain people, how is she able to do her lounge act w/all the drinking, etc. she is soo entitled and from what’s been written lately, not attending meetings or fulfulling her parole. anyone else would be thrown in the slammer. she is no longer the countess and she has nooo class whatsoever. it was nice that tinsley had some manners and was mortified! ramona such a pig – show’s up uninvited, stays half and hour and throws all the lobsters and clams in a bag to go!!!! it’s great that they keep showing clips of it but since it’s ramona, sure she’ll have no embarassement or feel anything for what she said about dennis. dorinda owns nothing!!! she needs to be in rehab w/luann! she probably knows it deep down but will not admit it. sonja has seemed to reel in the drinking! as much as there is wrong w/bethenny, I really admire what she’s done for so many suffering from diasters. truly hope she and hoppy can get it together for the sake of their child!!!!
Everyone grieves differently. But I am puzzling over Bethenny dating within weeks of Dennis’ death. And her statements that she’s getting over it quickly. When my sweetheart died, I couldn’t think about another man for a really really long time.
This season is having a really slow start. Every scene is so awkward.
They were in an “off” moment when he passed. I think T is right – she had probably already gone out with the current guy a couple of times (or even just once) before Dennis passed. She said that their relationship was complicated and often “on and off” – but off just meant open to dating other people. They were still friends and talked to each other.
If anything, this kinda shows that with B, what you see is what you get. She has to know people will question it and is entirely capable of keeping her mouth shut about it (I don’t think this is manufactured either – she’s been spotted with the guy when not filming)
Ramona is retired and on a fixed income! Like me, she probably has Ziploc Freezer Bags in her purse at all times just in case she attends an event serving something good that warms up well in the microwave. I was not raised to be this tacky, but I am…Ramona is good television. She is always out of order.
I’m thinking Ramona doesn’t use a ziploc bag! I can totally imagine her just piling shrimp into her purse. I mean she really sucked at shoving all of those lobsters in the tote bag; they were falling off the unwrapped plate into the cloth bag. You’re 100% correct that she is GREAT tv! there’s not a production team in the world that could coax “Ramona” out of any reality star. She’s definitely one of a kind.
I found the listing for the house Luanne ended up buying. It’s just upriver from me on the other side of the Hudson, in Port Ewen. Not particularly easy to get to from the city – there’s no commuter train service on that side of the river – so that should act as an effective Ramona-repellent. I’m generally not a covetous person, but the listing has me drooling a little, goddammit. “Fabulous Mid-Century modern, round house design with a truly stunning, irreplaceable Hudson River panorama and direct access to the water with over 200′ of river frontage…It boasts an open floor plan with up close views of the river from just about everywhere. Beautiful gourmet kitchen with dining area opens to the spacious living room with fireplace and radiant heated sleek slate floors. Sliding doors open up to a stunning deck overlooking lovely gardens and majestic river views…Wake up to a breathtaking view every day!” You know what I hate? I hate it when money CAN buy you frakkin’ class. (herein the DalaiMama slithers away muttering morosely)
It’s sounds like a lovely sober house. 🙂
Now here in the south, we like to take a casserole over to welcome new neighbors. I’m going to need you to do your neighborly duty once filming ends,
Maybe we will get to see it on the show this season or next. I’m happy for Luann.
Just out of curiosity, how long is the commute from your side of the river to NYC? Couldn’t she just take a boat or car to the other side? What type of train is it? Is it Amtrak or an actually commuter line?
Thanks, Dalai for the info on the house. It is enviable.
Nice! Good for you, Lu. And thanks to Dalai Mama for the detailed description. I echo your house envy.
The Prycer is right!!!
Who would have thought years ago that Sonja would turn out to be the voice of reason and fairness? I really do like her. She doesn’t take “sides” just to position herself somewhere good on the show. She disagrees respectfully and will stick update or friends or those she thinks are right. She has her own opinion and voices it when in the minority like with “the blondes”, but is still respectful. She is nutty and beats to her own drum but you can tell she has a heart of gold. I stopped watching for years, but came back couple seasons ago and love Sonja now that’s she is less drunk and distanced herself from Ramona.
It’s weird. It’s like she got a pesonality transplant with a side of an minor IQ injection on one of her trips to the spas of Costa Rica…