On the first episode of RHONY, everyone is in The Hamptons, or planning to head that direction. However, they are not all staying together. And, they are not all speaking. The episode starts off with some big news that happened during the hiatus. Luann de Lesseps was sued by her children and the Count over her house in the Hamptons. I love Lu, but I don’t see any good way to spin that story. Then shortly thereafter, she lost her sobriety and had to go back to rehab. She didn’t stay in rehab that long. But, I suppose we will get to that.
Dorinda Medley
Dorinda’s first scene is a walk in the park. At least one of these women is in a good place. She has been focused on exercising all summer. Dorinda stayed at her house in The Berkshires and just came back to the city to film. She also tells her friend Luke that she has realized that alcohol is not a good thing for her. Shall we take bets on how long this lasts? I say she has a drunken fight during the first half of the season. Luke asks if her friends had mention her problem with alcohol to her before. She says no. That was all Luann. Dorinda is totally trashing Luann de Lesseps to the Luke person. Listing all her crimes and misdemeanors (literally), and her wedding, and her divorce, and her return to rehab. Then she says she wishes Luann well, but it is not healthy for them to be around each other. I agree. Two newly sober drunks should not be hanging out together.
Bethenny Frankel
Bethenny Frankel is at her house in Bridgehampton with few good friends. It’s been three weeks since Dennis Shields passed away. She tells about Dennis’ daughter calling her the day he died to give her the news. She talks about texting Dennis after he died. Then, Bryn asked to text him as well. This must have been very hard on Bryn too.
Sonja Morgan
Ramona Singer stops by to filming with Sonja Morgan at her place. Sonja has finally put her townhouse on the market and is living in a new two-bedroom apartment near Central Park. She wants to paint the walls pink and have black lacquer doors. Ramona is not a fan of this idea. I’m not either. Ramona is selling her apartment too.
Sonja is headed to the Hamptons with Tinsley Mortimer. She is not staying with Bethenny so that she can stay with her boyfriend Brandon. Sonja says she will be right there if she needs her.
Meet the New Intern, Taylor
Later, we meet Taylor, Sonja’s newest slave assistant. It seems they will work for free even if they don’t get school credit for bringing her breakfast in bed in addition to waiting on her hand and foot. Check out their daily routine here.
Today’s order of business is to duct tape towels over her bedroom window. She’s having a man over tonight, and there is a restaurant level with her apartment right across the street. I’m making a metal note to go to that restaurant if I am ever in NYC again. It looks like a great place to write a blog from. 🙂 She tells Taylor that it will be a bummer if it falls down right when she is about to cum. That is just as classy as monogrammed towels duct taped to a window, Sonja.
Luann de Lesseps
In the Hamptons, Luann de Lesseps is at her house in Sag Harbour arranging her Vespas. The new girl, Barbara Kavovit arrives by car. Luann has known Barbara for fifteen years. He kids went to the same summer camp when she came back from Europe so they met through their kids. Apparently, Barbara encouraged Lu to go back to rehab after she lost her way when her children and the Count sued her over the Hamptons house.
Barbara actually tried to sue Bravo for airing her comments to Carole Radziwill at an event where she said Luann de Lesseps would rather get married and get divorced than cancel the wedding and validate all the mean things people were saying about her.
Luann says she is going to meeting every day in The Hamptons. Unfortunately, she is currently a bit behind in meetings and community service. Luann says she is so grateful that her kids can see her sober. She can’t slip again. Luannn says that maintaining her sobriety is still a struggle.
Tinsley Mortimer
Dorinda Medley meets up with Tinsley Mortimer. Tinsley is back from her summer travels with Scott Kluth. This summer they spent a lot of time living together in Chicago. She got to play house and play hostess and get a taste of what married life would be like. I just don’t see a future with Scott Kluth at this point. If he wanted to marry her, he would have asked her by now. Dorinda and Tinsley have both reached out to Bethenny Frankel right after Dennis Shields passed. However, they both thing right now she want to be with her closest friends. They will be on stand-by if she wants to reach out. It’s really hard to know what to do in a situation like that.
Scott loaned Tinsley a new black Bentley SUV he shipped over from Chicago. Bentley makes an SUV? She’s going to drive Sonja to the Hamptons. Can she even drive? Apparently, not. She can’t even get it out of the parking space. She says she has not driven in five years. I suppose a Bentley is a good car to relearn driving. Sonja already misses taking the bus. On the ride they talk about Dorinda being nervous to see Luann.
Ramona Singer
At her house in the Hamptons, Ramona has a swimming lesson with an instructor named Boris. Of course she makes it a sexual encounter. Ramona Singer is not shy.
Later, Ramona has Dorinda Medley over for girl talk in The Hamptons. Ramona has a housekeeper helping her. I am not sure who would be worse to work for Ramon Singer or Sonja Morgan. Dorinda doesn’t really want to see Luann. Probably because she was such a cunt to her at her Cabaret event that was the finale of last season. Ramona points out that Luann is struggling a “a broken girl” right now.
Dorinda continues to trash talk Luann. She hasn’t seen Luann or spoken to her since March. She says Luann was saying terrible things about her over the summer. Guess what? That’s exactly what you are doing now Dorinda. Then she starts crying because she is really hurt. Ramona says Luann can’t help herself. She is not in a good place. It’s not about Dorinda. Barbara is having an all-cast clam bake at her house. Dorinda is dreading it. Ramona says Luann is on her high horse when it comes to Dorinda. Ramona says Luann is very off right now and people are concerned. Dorinda says they just need some space from each other right now.
Bethenny Has Luann and Barbara Over
Bethenny Frankel Invites Luann de Lesseps and Barbara Kavovit over to her Hamptons house. It is the first time the three of them will be together since her intervention. Luann brings a pie. Barbara says she has to leave and go get flowers or something because she can’t come empty-handed. Then she remembers she has a new fancy tool kit in the car from her product line. Perfect. By the way Barbara is a hugely successful builder who oversees huge projects in NYC. She’s rich, bitch! Apparently, Bethenny already has the tool kit in pink. I’ll take the black one, Barbara!
Luann is not happy that Ramona Singer made up a lie about Luann being drunk at a party at the reunion. She was there with Barbara, not by herself. And Barbara says Luann turned to her and said she was ready to leave. Luann says there were too many people there drinking she didn’t want to see.
These Three Are Not Fans Of Ramona Singer
Barbara is not a fan of Ramona Singer either. Apparently, Luann and Barbara were out dancing at a club. Ramona showed up and started dancing and looked at Luann asked, “Why is she here?” As if Barbara shouldn’t be there. She says she has probably met Ramona fifteen times and each time she acts like she doesn’t know her and they’ve never met. Both Lu and Bethenny say she does that to everyone.
Luann is mostly upset with Dorinda Medley. She says Dorinda has a lot of anger toward her. Apparently, Dorinda is still angry that when the girls were in Columbia, she cautioned her about her drinking. Luann is also upset that she is in the Hamptons and hasn’t even reached out to her. She doesn’t want to go to Barbara’s clambake because Dorinda will be there. Luann doesn’t feel strong enough for that right now. Bethenny tells Barbara not to invite Dorinda. Problem solved.
I like this team this year.
Thanks, TT. I am an hour behind everyone so I haven’t seen it at this moment and after looking at their faces, I didn’t realize how much I can’t stomach Ramona and Sonya. Even Tinsley annoys me. Don’t know if I’m going to watch this season or just read the recaps
Did Bethenny just serve fish, including shell fish?
I doubt it. She can have shellfish. Also, this was before she was hospitalized.
Such an improvement over RHBH. This is the all-star team. I am always happy to see it return. Real life problems, not some contrived bullshit. These ladies show it all.
“My head aches, and a drowsy numbness pains/My sense, as though of hemlock I had drunk,”
(John Keats)
I’m having trouble processing the fact that the NYHW are really back. And yet our Glorious Leader has posted with unequivocal veracity, so I can see the new NY season is underway. Which has, quite naturally, got me chasing my beloved John Keats, and some lines he wrote in “Ode to a Nightingale”. Keats detractors need not apply (or comment) (basically, just fuck off). I’m drawn into the heady lines
“Darkling I listen; and, for many a time
I have been half in love with easeful Death,
Call’d him soft names in many a mused rhyme,
To take into the air my quiet breath;”
As well as these lines in a later stanza”
“Was it a vision, or a waking dream?
Fled is that music:—Do I wake or sleep?”
Tell me Tamara, fled is that music, do I wake, or sleep?
This post brought to you by Deep Eddy Ruby Red Vodka. For as you well know, Deep Eddy has a profound affinity for the poetry of John Keats. (I made that up just now.)
Deep Eddy Ruby Red is my favorite!!! I prefer it with diet lemonade and a twist of lime, hubby likes it on the rocks.
I forgot how much I love ruby red until I read your comments just now!! Thanks for reintroducing it into my life. I’ll have to go get some later. 🙂
I’m big fan of sleep. I often tell Banjo he needs to go outside at four am because I am about to TAKE THE BIG SLEEP.
Just not THAT big sleep.
Oh…. we are such a fan of A big sleep here too. But yes, not The Big Sleep. I can’t tell you how many obligations I missed this week and had to admit ‘uh…. sorry, I was asleep.’ I am popping iron pills and chugging coffee hoping for a more productive week next week.
Don’t tell anyone Blondesense, but were are having a pathetic little group therapy sesh here https://tamaratattles.com/2019/03/05/its-fat-tuesday-yall/ where we try to encourage adulting. and waddling. And Jesus,
My fucking ad on this page just turned to twenty year olds in swimwear. Stupid. asshole. ads. lol
That was beautiful. Thank you for the Yeats!! Who knew I would be reading poetry here??
If you sleep, you are having a nightmare. Anytime Ramona shows up it’s a nightmare. A recurring nightmare with red-scarf guy as the Nosferatu haunting your dreams.
SPOILER ALERT! Red Scarf Guy returns as WHITE SCARF GUY this season in Emmy worthy display of acting range!
https://tamaratattles.com/2018/11/17/the-role-of-recurring-manwhore-on-rhony-has-been-filled/
Well, I forgot why Dorinda is mad at LuAnn. Is it about the Jovani stuff? Meanwhile, I might be taping this and watching/listening while knitting since it seems a bit boring right off the bat. HOWEVER, after RHNJ, maybe this is normal???
Luann didn’t invite John to the cabaret show as it was sold out. But later asked Tinsley if Scott would like to join. Of course Carole encouraged Tinsley to tell Dorinda so she is properly pissed and ultimately lead her to heckle With the Jovani shout outs.
Ohhhhh… that’s right! Thank you Floridagirl!
Dorinda is angry Luann asked her how her Margarita tasted and from there Dorinda went off on a cruel rant against Luann. Dorinda claims Luann was deflecting her issues with alcohol and was being preachy when Luann tried to get Dorinda to slow her roll as she was getting aggressive. Dorinda is still claiming the same as of last night-Luann owes her an apology. Dorinda was a mess the night of the incident with lipstick smeared all over her mouth. Dorinda broke a glass-not intentionally but hey she wasn’t drunk.
Dorinda upped her game when she heckled Luann at her cabaret show by repeatedly shouting out “Jovani”, as Dorinda thought Luann should have thanked the designer of the dress she was wearing. Dorinda now claims a reporter from People Magazine was there and said she wasn’t heckling.
Doesn’t seem Dorinda and Luann have mended any fences.
Again, now I remember! Thank you Valley View!
Valley View …it sounds like you tried to rewrite history or frankly leave out some things. Or maybe you just have amnesia…because l distinctively remember LuAnn remarking to Dorinda that she was “changing” and Dorinda biting back at Lu because she felt LuAnn was in No position to chastise her or anyone else about drinking alcohol. And quite frankly l agree. She needs to sweep around her own front door 1st.
This is why I provide links to the recaps of the scenes referred to. Had either of you gone there, you would have read this. It wasn’t just Luann who had to deal with Drunk Dorinda. She was off her rocker AGAIN that night. Luann had “swept around her own porch” and was trying to help her friend.Meanwhile Dorinda was losing her mind and throwing glasses at Luann while saying the most vile things to hurt her. I thought Luann was very kind to Dorinda all things considered.
Meanwhile at the other end of the table, Luann tries to make pleasant conversation. She asks Dorinda how her margarita is and Dorinda responds with “Why would you ask me that?” Luann says, “she’s starting!” and Dorinda is offended by that as well. Luann says that Dorinda drinks to a certain point and then gets mean. We are at that point where slurry Dorinda says, “A countess got married and now she’s not a countess anymore.” And then “You drink some more and get arrested, honey.” Dorinda breaks a glass in Luann’s general direction.
Luann gets up to leave and Dorinda stands up and gets in her face. Dorinda brings up Luann’s mugshot. The waiter tries to replace Dorinda’s drink and Ramona cuts her off. Dorinda tells Ramona that she will never speak to Luann again. Dorinda goes to smoke. When she comes back Luann leaves in a cab. Ramona points out that Dorinda does become very aggressive when she drinks. Dorinda denies this while being very aggressive with Ramona. Dorinda repeatedly tells Ramona to shut her mouth.
Dorinda is pathetic! She proved it last night too! Team B, Lu, and the new girl Barbara ( so far ) Sonja is a neutral lover! Dorinda and Ramona are SKUNKS!!
Thanks TT for the details.
It doesn’t matter if someone who is drunk gets advice from a friend or a waiter. Drunk is drunk and Luann was simply try to defuse-she was not on a high horse about sobriety.It is not as if Luann was trying to Twelve Step Dorinda.
Dorinda was just sucking up to Carole. Dorinda was an epic fail with Bethenny on the Puerto Rico trip and decided she needed to take Luann down as a favor to Carole.
I so get why Luann said that to Dorinda during the dinner. Which to me wasn’t that bad. Maybe I think that cause I have a friend who acts just like Dorinda when she is drunk. My friend is a mean drunk. She doesn’t know when to stop and she mixes drinks. When she starts to slur we all go “it’s time”. She had the nerve to call me out in front of a group of friends and ask why I had an attitude a year ago at a party (yes a year ago), I asked did she really want to go there and she stated “yes”. I said “okay”, you are a mean sloppy obnoxious drunk and I was embarrassed to be with you. She had the nerve to to say “god, Prycer why are you being so mean”. You asked and I told you that’s why. Our friendship of course is not the same and I keep her at arms distance now.
Thanks for the recaps when I can’t watch
How refreshing after the NJ reunion debacle!
Looking forward to the only franchise I’ve weaned myself down to.
Dorinda goes into each season with an enemy. She is always accusing that person of talking crap about her but she is filmed doing the exact same thing. Last season it was Sonja, this season Luann, I can’t remember who it was prior to that but I am sure it was someone!
Seeing Luke with Dorinda made me miss Ladies of London! 🙁
Me too! I loved Ladies of London
Speaking of LoL Caroline S is going to be on next week’s Million dollar listing LA (in Dubai).
Agree about Ladies of London, but does anybody he know how Luke knows so many Bravolebrities? I feel like this is the 3/4th time he has been on a show since Ladies was cancelled.
Dorinda lived in London for many years and I believe she said she know Caroline Stanbury, whose best friends with Luke.
True about Dorinda’s London connection, but I feel we saw him on a CA show, too? Or I could be misremembering and everything has been Dorinda.
He was Caroline Stanbury’s makeup guy and I believe, they took a trip together to visit Julie’s Scotland castle. Can’t remember if there is a CA connection,but he’s beginning to look a little hungry.
Yes, he was on LoL a lot as Caroline’s friend/makeup artist, and he has been with Dorinda before. I just really feel like I have seen him in at least 2 other shows places, but I can remember details.
I literally ran here to comment how much this made me miss Ladies of London! Those were the daysss
I am ready for NYC with their real world problems. Alcoholism, children lawsuits, fiancé deaths, cougar hunting, townhouse dumping, socialite that can’t close the deal, new housewife and real grudges. No bullshit season long puppy/panty controversies.
So glad RHONY is back! As Christi said, real ppl with real lives is so much better than manufactured drama every damn week. Good lord Sonja and the towels though. A rather nice looking apartment isn’t a dorm or a house you rent with 5 friends because you’re all broke and right out of college.
And yeah, all of the super luxury brands are into smaller to midsize SUV’s. Some are very cute and some aren’t that cute. Porsche was first Maserati’s Levante is my fave. I have no idea how I ended up on a local Maserati mailing list but I did and I loved that vehicle. Love the white Ghibli w/red leather interior as well. That car screams sex! Aston Martin is even releasing an SUV sometime this year. The Bentley isn’t my fave. I love saying all of this with my not super luxury car sitting in the garage. Hey, a girl can dream! Ppl buy $98k Navigators and Escalades so I love seeing these really sexy ass cars.
I couldn’t imagine parking at the Shop Rite in a really expensive SUV. No one puts the shopping carts away. I’d rather take a trip around the world and drive a used Honda. Just get the premium AAA for breakdowns.
OMG! My pet peeve is people who REFUSE to bring their shopping carts back and leave them either in a parking spot, at the end of the parking spot just enough so nobody can park there, tipped over into a bush, balancing on a curb or just left in the middle of the lane. And these are the SAME people who pay money to go to a gym to walk on a treadmill.
I agree it is so rude. I used to live in Maryland where no one did that. Now in New Jersey everyone does it because New Jersey people are pretty awful. Don’t @ me
I hate that too. Especially when they leave a dirty diaper in the cart. I hope this is just an East (Contra Costa) County thing. I haven’t seen it since I moved from there but it happened there frequently.
Yep. Used for me as well. I do love the pretty fancy cars and they are all over a certain shopping center. Their owners tend to not return carts and I hate that too! The walk is never as long as the walk you just took around target or wherever. However if someone gifted me a Ghibli or Levante, I’d gladly park it wherever and always return my cart. I’d also require the insurance to a gift as well. Can you imagine the premiums?
Hubby and i walked out of Target one night to see a new Bentley in the parking lot!
I always feel like I’m in a hoopty when I go to Target. lol. It’s the Mecca of G Wagons, Lamborghinis, Audis, Volvo’s, Escalades, $78k trucks, etc. I don’t get it! Right across the clover leaf interchange is Walmart where I obviously fit in much better.
I’m so glad these ladies are back! Thanks for recap, I can’t wait to watch tonight
Ramona is a vile, diseased cunt.
I can’t believe you didn’t catch her “words of sympathy” about Bethenny.
I watched again, and I quote:’
“I feel bad that Bethenny lost her friend Dennis.
She doesn’t have that many close friends and I know she relied on him in a lot of ways, so I feel badly”
Why does she keep hammering, implying year after year, that basically, Bethenny doesn’t have anyone?
Ramona is the Queen…of Passive Agressive. She may have another superpower stronger than The Aplogizer.
Ramona’s unflattering oversized breasts that start just below her chin..along with her bloated gut makes her look huge. When she was sitting on the park bench I had to rewind to see who that person was. Leaning into the fridge with her ass in the air and swimming while harassing that man. I watched and wished I had that self esteem…Self awareness can be such an bummer.
I thought as first that Dorinda was speaking to a homeless woman.
I laughed to see Ramona in yet another crocheted dress….given she looks fab for her age. But what has she done? I saw something else about her “man craziness” getting out of hand. I guess we will see. I’m about to really hate her next week I believe.
I heard it and agree 100%, Ramona is a cunt!
Yep ! This is the fake bullshit my mother in law does . It’s constant veiled insults that leave her clutching her pearls in innocence if I try to call her out on them. It’s just fake and manipulative.
I’m not sure why I’m so excited RHONY is back, because I can’t stand Ramona. She makes me cringe every time she is talking to a man. She is so smug and self-satisfied, but every time she opens her mouth, she reveals how dumb she is.
I’m sad for Bethenny.
LuAnn came across as so bitter and mean tonight, not like a happy, healthy person.
Is Sonja’s townhouse sold or just on the market?
It was sad seeing Tinsley’s excitement about her summer with Scott because I know they’re broken up now.
Luke, the guy Dorinda was walking and talking with, was Caroline Stanbury’s makeup artist on Ladies of London.
Sonja was renting the townhouse.
I was so happy to see Luke! I forgot Dorinda has the London connection from her marriage to Richard. Yay!
Lu is still thinking she’s the queen and everyone should bow and curtsy in her presence. So annoying!
I truly can’t stand Ramona nor Sonja. They are in “heat” all the time constantly panting after men. Do they make a female version of Viagra? I remember Samantha from Sex and the City took a regular one once and had the best “O” ever. Or was that Ecstasy? Are we women in our prime in our 60s, too?
Dorinda and Lu need to get over the Jovani mess. That cannot be part of their storylines again this year.
I feel sad for Bethenny that Dennis’s passing is going to be her storyline.
I was hoping Tinsley and Scott would be engaged by now. They seem to breakup and makeup all the time. I wonder if he breaks up with her before they start filming again. She needs to reach deep into her “trick” bag and secure the big ring so she can get married and move to Chicago.
I like the new girl.
Love the new girl! So glad boring Carole is out. NY is by far, the best franchise!
Did it ever come out that Lu actually set up the trust she was supposed to?
I think what it was is that If Lu sold the Hamptons house she was to use that money to set up a trust. She didn’t sell the house. The kids might have preferred she just keep the house.
That’s not what it was at all. Click the links about it in the post.
I don’t miss Carole at all. I’m glad she’s gone, too.
In fact, I forgot about her until I saw her mentioned on this post.
Did anyone see Dorinda on WWHL?
Yes and she’s still in denial that she has a drinking problem. All she did was deflect and interrupt Andy.
Love the recap!
SO excited these girls are back. My favorite show. Dorinda continues to be delusional and in denial. Lu was trying to help her and be the cautionary tale of don’t drink too much. Instead of appreciating that, Dorinda continues to paint herself a victim and lash out at Lu trying to warn her. Total denial just because she wasn’t arrested, clearly she’s been wasted enough something bad could’ve happened, which is the point. And what to make of Barbara’s comments about the intervention for Lu and then Durinda also saying on WWHL that they saved Lu’s life? What the hell? Do they mean she was like suicidal over the whole lawsuit and everything and drinking herself into a bad place? But Dorinda can save those victim tears. And speaking of tears, we need clarification from B on how long she and Dennis were broken up before she’s with a new boyfriend. Seems like she’s trying hard to say she’s devastated but not really acting that way. And much like Wendy Williams, I don’t think she’s ever going to be able to tell the truth as to what she knew about his potential addiction issues because if she goes on record as knowing, then she helps Jason’s case saying that she showed reckless judgment in allowing Brynn to be around someone who was under the influence allegedly. So that is a very difficult wall to straddle to say why they could never stay together and why they weren’t together anymore, which likely is because of his addiction issues allegedly, and then admitting that she let their child spend a lot of time with someone who had those issues.
Sonja in bed waiting for peanut butter toast is beyond hilarious as is the assistant who so looked like she just wasn’t having all this bullshit for the cameras. And again, she had 2 dogs, now 1. Other than her daughter’s dog, I still am concerned as to what happened to all of her animals. What the hell happened to Ramona s nose? It’s progressively gotten more off center! And I like Tinsley. I felt bad watching this because we now know that she and Scott broke up, and I actually always thought that they would. I was actually surprised to hear her talk about how they spent the summer together and lived in Chicago etc. I never understood how it took so long to even get to that point in this relationship. They’re always breaking up, which is never a good sign, and the worst sign was her saying that he dates other women. Right there you knew he was never going to marry her. If he’s taking so long to decide, you know he has hesitation about her. And he should be thrilled to be with such a pretty girl. i predict he may end up being one of those stories you see over after stringing her along for years then turns around and marries someone else in four months.
I like Barbara, didn’t know her info so that was interesting to see. She looks like a a lot of facial filler version of Leah Rimini.
@Cat37: IMO with Dorinda and Lu their problems do still stem from Cartenega. Lu laughingly said that Dorinda “was turning” by pointing out Dorinda’s drinking problem, but I think Lu was still drinking and on her high horse about her sobriety on camera. That’s why Dorinda was so mad for Lu to hide her drinking but pointing out Dorinda’s on camera. Their reaction were both over the top and hope they work through it. The rest of your post is spot on.
Luann never told drunken Dorinda she had a drinking problem. She told her she was starting to turn and turn she did into a obnoxious, aggressive drunk. Luann was not drinking at the time.
What Dorinda did was uncalled for-just because Luann sought treatment for alcoholism does not give Dorinda or anyone else the right to lobby insult after insult to her. Luann’s drinking never had a effect on Dorinda or anyone else on the cast.
I do not understand why Dorinda thinks she is owed an apology. She as made herself into such a victim. Even Ramona said she goes off and gets over it-I do not see Dorinda getting over it.
Exactly, VV. I love Dorinda but cringe at Drunk Dorinda. But beyond that, the woman holds a grudge longer than my Italian uncles. She stews over everything in the off season rather than engage in any honest self reflection. I worry about her.
Absolutely, Dorinda got defensive and struck like a cobra. And remember Ramona also tried to tell her to back that shit up and Dorinda jumped on her as well. Again, Lu was looking out for her. D can disagree with being told anything being she’s a grown ass woman, she’s sensitive about her drinking and doesn’t want anyone telling her that. She called B a bitch and told her she ruined everything at the Puerto Rico dinner because she’s a belligerent drunk. B was right. Over and over it’s the same pattern. And Lu made the gentlest of comments. But D doesn’t want to hear it.
By Lu saying teasingly “she’s turning” implies Dorinda is getting drunk. Not cool to say to a good friend on camera, whether true or not. Dorinda said the minute she got out of rehab Lu went back to drinking and believe her. Lu had booze in her new apartment. Dorinda has a bad temper if she’s drunk or not but found her to be a loyal friend. Neither one should drink IMO
It’s very cool to say if your friend is drunk on camera. Especially when she goes on to stumble around with red lipstick all over her face on camera while blackout drunk and being an ass to everyone.
There was also a huge fight at the other end of the table between Carole and Bethenny that production was supposed to be focusing on but Dorinda breaking glasses and freaking out the waitstaff kind of too precedence. Everyone at that end of the table told Dorinda to slow down. Ramona told the waiter to cut her off after the glass incident.
The camera doesn’t lie. Dorinda was obviously turning from casual drinking to her nasty drunk persona. LuAnn had nothing to do with that.
If you really watched and compared LuAnn’s confessionals last season (and her PR interviews) she looked completely different after the arrest and rehab. Her face was less flushed and puffy. Her eyes were no longer dull and glazed over. Her overall demeanor was happier and clear headed. Something changed in January. One would logically deduce the change to be absence of alcohol. (Sonja had a similar change a few seasons ago when she dramatically reduced adult beverages.) I do not know when LuAnn began drinking again, but I do not doubt one bit that her sobriety extended past rehab and continued through filming. That Includes during cast trips. Ramona and Dorinda both had reason to cast doubt on LuAnn’s continued sobriety. The only 2 people I would trust to comment on when LuAnn started drinking again are Bethenny and Barbara, and I don’t think they will tell. Definitely not Barbara.
TT, I never considered Dorinda disrupting the Bethenny and Carole showdown. I was just so shocked how everyone tried to contain Dorinda’s obviously inebriated state. Now I wonder what would have played out differently between C and B. But you know, as you always said, see you next Tuesday. That part wouldn’t have changed.
Maybr if luann actually worked the program and the 12 steps, she could be a voice. Dorinda is in denial and her conduct was not cool but luann’s countess sniping about it at that lunch was hardly the voice of someone who is doing the work to stay sober.
The 12 steps has a high percentage of failure. Most don’t make it. It’s not the answer for most addicts.
It’s got a 100% failure rate.
JoJoFLL- I assume you’re just overstating the percentage of failure for effect, right? Fynn is right, the percentage of “failure” is extremely high. It’s depressing. I’m holding on to the possible cliche of “progress not perfection” instead of failure, otherwise I doubt I could get up in the morning. In any case, I’m lousy with math but I am sober largely bc of AA. So maybe it’s not quite 100% failure. Of course the day isn’t over and I could relapse, so maybe I’m wrong. Sorry if I’m rule-breaking with my rambles!
You’r e breaking any rules. I fully expected those in recovery here who are where they are because of AA to be highly offended by the comment.
Where did you obtain your information?
Did anyone else notice Ramona’s wildly inappropriate behavior towards the swim instructor? If the situation would have been reversed he would have been sued by now, issued a statement, settled out of court, and shipped off to rehab.
How much longer does Ramona get a pass for being constantly inappropriate and a horrible person in general?
Am I the only one who notices this?
@JoJo: It was totally cringeworthy. Wonder if Boris is used to these rich women acting that way in the Hamptons? Nice to see them all back.
Ramona’s storyline is how to lose a man in 30 seconds or less. She’s a natural born male offender.
Ramona reminds me of my Aunt Lillian (she passed years ago) and she was in her 60’s when I was like 13 or something and at a family wedding she was flirting with the bartender and said “Can I have a cherry on my drink, I lost mine years ago” and I didn’t know what she was talking about so I asked my mom and my mom told me later. I was MORTIFIED! I couldn’t be around my Aunt after that.
When my husband and I got engaged, my mother held a party. Mymother’s younger sister told my husband, who she was meeting for the first time, that her sex life had improved since she had all her teeth pulled and got dentures. He wasn’t 13, but still . . .
I love these crazy aunt stories. I hope to be the crazy aunt some day. After a certain age, women don’t give a fuck and often say things for shock value.
JoJo are you just now noticing this? She’s always been this way. It’s no longer shocking. Just like she said I’m meeting someone for drinks and then I have a second date for dinner. Ramona does it all for shock value for the show.When she gets together with Sonja, they both try to out slut each other. I think they are both desperate to prove they are still desirable to men. Despite, you know, not having a man. Sonja’s comments about having a man coming over for the night to have sex with her was equally pathetic.
To me, it just like Dorinda being drunk and obnoxious. It’s just a regular day for them. It looks like the three of them will be on the same side this season, at least for now. Which makes it easy for me to prefer the other three.
That makes sense to me.
Ramona and Sonja are just sad.
Ramona’s outfit for the two dates made me almost throw up. It was nothing more than a swimsuit cover-up and you could see her black thong underneath as she walked in the door. I have to fast forward or close my eyes through her flirty scenes…It makes me sooooo uncomfortable.
Yes! Thought the same. An over-60 woman running around in clothes you can see through like she’s a 20something Kardashian Jenner. Gross. And as someone said above, the fake boobs did her no favor. Makes her look much heavier plus I presume she gained a couple pounds and also hormones are causing her weight through the middle. Implants were a huge mistake because she’s short. And I don’t get what happened to her nose. All that work she gets done made something change.
Ramona has a great body and can wear whatever the fuck she wants. Why on earth do you think anyone cares about what you think she should be wearing?
No doubt. I’d kill for Ramona’s body. She is pretty tiny in real life.
Pretty much confirms Ramona has to hire men for companionship. Ramona is an awful human being. Ramona and Dorinda grooming one another over what big hearts they have is laughable. They are both at odds with Bethenny, Luann and Sonja. Although Sonja seems to be rather fluid this year.
@JoJo, No you are not the only one who noticed. Her behavior was vulgar. What I do not understand is, how do you have a swimming pool and do not know how to swim?! I had a coworker who had a pool (with no fence or cover) and I asked what would happen if she fell in. She didn’t even have the first aid skills to save herself. Smdh
I fast forwarded through Ramona scene with the swim instructor to avoid this.
The fast forward button may be the greatest invention of our time.
I thought exactly the same thing, if a man was making those comments to a woman, there would be uproar!
Dorinda is absolutely stunningly beautiful in the top cast picture here. I’ve noticed before she’s really photogenic, or else she’s the one that gets to pick and photoshop what pics get used. The cast will never be great when it includes Ramona. Every minute of having to watch or listen to her is a minute lost to idiocy.
Dorinda and Ramona are beyond pathetic old hags!! I will take Bethenny, Lu, new Barbara any day w all their flaws!! Tinsley is just plain slow….
He was Caroline’s makeup guy and they took a trip together to visit I think, Julie’s Scotland castle.
Ignore this, I was trying to answer a question above.
He was Caroline Stanbury’s makeup guy and I believe, they took a trip together to visit Julie’s Scotland castle.
Bethenny almost had me in the kitchen with her friends. Then I noticed the perfectly placed salad dressing bottles!! Always a reason for being on camera.
Everything in her house is perfectly placed…. it isn’t a conspiracy. Why would she buy a different salad dressing?
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a commercial. Always. She wouldn’t buy a different dressing. She would pick two of her dressings. Position them so that we see that there are two different flavors …side by side with the labels facing the camera. Hard for me to take her seriously.
You’re right. Everything in her house is perfect. I love the red and white chairs in her kitchen.
Omg what it’s so ugly. Nothing goes together. The red everywhere is stressful. She desperately needs a decorator. The outdoor areas sometimes look nice but still a jumble of random styles thrown together
Of COURSE she puts out her salad dressing. Why wouldn’t she? Product placement is literally in her contract.
I didn’t even notice them. Am I the only person who watches the Housewives shows for entertainment purposes only. I see the product placement most of these women do but isn’t that what the shows are for?
I just don’t care to dissect other people lives because I’m trying to live mine!
Kimberly….I’m oblivious too! 😂
From the season previews itlooks like Dorinda will turn Betheny against Lu during the season with lies and BS. It also looks like Betheny becomes a raging lunatic again. I’m done with mean, drunk Dorinda. On WWHL i had to switch the channel she’s insufferable. She is the show downer along with Ramona. I like Lu she got knocked off her high horse which I think was a good and humbling experience but I think she got back up and is trying to better herself. I hope she can stay sober.
I saw that too PixnTrix. I hope that doesn’t mean Lu is drinking AGAIN. I could see Bethenny not playing along with that on the show.
Thanks TT and I agree… I like this cast and Barbara seems like a great addition. Ramona seems boring now.
I have lived this show since the beginning, Ramona always pisses me off. Every once in a while I will feel badly for her in a situation and then she opens her mouth and ruins it. It’s like her brain isn’t wired the same as ours are, sort of missing the empathy chip or something. At first I wasn’t sure about Dorinda, in one of her first scenes she was at a restaurant and asked a black man wearing a dress shirt and tie to get her another drink, he said he didn’t work there and was a guest like her. She did t even seem to be remotely embarrassed by her assumption. Then she got a bit more “normal”, then she became the every year she has to hate on someone new twat she is.
Grrrr, I’ve always struggled w/Ramona, so self absorbed and cringe worthy, especially around men, service profession like waiters or chefs, housekeepers and even her daughter. We’ve seen her sweet side but it never lasts. Typical that Barbara noted Ramona’s inability to recognize her after numerous introductions at events over many years. Barbara seems pretty down to earth, speaks her mind without a fifth in her belly and the fact that she loves Lu enough to confront her in a caring way says a lot to me.
If Ramona’s not interested, she just reverts to “me, me, me…”. She’s an OG I know isn’t going anywhere so I just tolerate her. She also seems to switch sides and although annoying in my “reality” watching over the years, I’ve switched sides a few times too so I’ll give her a little slack there! I really liked Carol and Dorinda their first few seasons. I don’t miss Carol one little bit and honestly I want Dorinda to slow her roll, humble up a little and not drink so much ’cause I really want to like her again.
I didn’t realize how much Carole cast a haze of negativity and weirdness onto the show until last night. Having her gone allowed the others to truly show their real personalities. There was something very controlling about Carole and when someone filmed with her she seemed to color the whole interaction with her own issues.
I’ve been watching HW shows since the beginning and I have never been so struck as I was with the letting go of a HW. What a difference.
@Kate, I agree that this show is much better now that negative Carol is gone. Love to watch Bethenny. I like the new lady Barbara and LuAnn. It’s hard to watch Ramona and Dorinda. Sonja’s new place seems perfect for her.
You’re totally right! There was a haze of weird ambiguous vibes with Carole. It’s almost like the show got switched to 4K without her. Lol
-Ramona calling it, guacamola and the housekeeper rolling her eyes. Lol
-It felt really wrong to me when B read off those personal texts from herself and Bryn. Its one thing to say they happened, its another to read them word for word (including emoji’s?)
….because when watching, she knows you will judge her relationship with the boyfriend and justify how cruel Jason was for suggesting that the boyfriend was abusing drugs while he was with Bryn. It’s evidence she can use in her present custody case. She knew this while filming.
I’ve been reading the summaries from B’s court hearings this week. Honestly wish they were televised. One site has her walking down the hall wiping tears. (Perfectly placed.) Some of the texts they shared are so embarrassing. Like blaming Jason because Bryn didn’t get accepted into a private school that costs $50,000 per year. 1st grade. The rejection letter must have been devastating to Bethenny.
Does anyone know where Jason lives now or where he works or does B support him?
Yes, it felt very self-serving and hollow.
Prediction: whatever happens this season, B will inevitably come out standing, Ramona taking zero accountability, Sonja sleeping her way to the top of Target shoe wholesale buyer, Tinsley will cry her way through Manhattan, Dorinda will slur and scream and continue peri menopausal meltdown and the Countess will walk away unscathed and hosting the Grammys in Estonia.
Well thanks for spoiling the entire season for us! LOL! You are correct. But it is all in how we get there at this point. 🙂
Fabulous comment!, Lisaj!
Sonja is tacky AF. If you are waiting for window treatments how about just buying the paper curtains for Bed Bath and Beyond. When I got my place that was my first purchase. I put up paper curtains until the window treatments were installed. I then moved into my place.At least put up some damn newspaper up instead of some beach towels with electrical tape. Smdh.
True. And for a nicer, more finished look for (relatively small cost she can spend less than $50 and get curtain rods and draperies delivered off Amazon! Why would she ruin her sleep night after night to save $50? She doesn’t try to find the *BEST* solution; she just cobbles together some quick solution.
I just looked on Amazon and blackout panels are $7 each. I think she needs 4, so that’s $28!
Nice-looking curtain rods are $10 with different metallic finishes (bronze, pewter, etc), so $20 for a pair of curtain rods.
That’s just a quick, easy fix that would be beautiful and let her get good sleep while waiting on her blinds!
Hello!! We’re talking Sonja?! Sonja who washes her “fine French” undergarments in the bidet? Sonja fascinates me! I find her very strange yet endearing. She’s a special kind of one off. I don’t hate her for certain.
😂 I am with you! I love Sonja’s crazy . She definitely has a mesmerizing quality . I was just laughing so hard when she and her assistant are duck taping a towel to her windows .
Luann is insufferable and as Dorinda said, “sanctimonious”. Add on pretentious & Untalented…I’ll finish with #CanNotStandLuann!!
And this was the Premiere episode! I am watching RHONY for Bethenny/Team B. She’s already Best dressed, followed by Tinsley
(I also 💖 the 80s, Tins) & Dorinda. Looking forward to the Workout episode 😃.
This was the most boring opening of a season of RHONY I have seen.
What is up with the scene of Dorinda’s talking head? It looks like someone glued her to the background like worst photoshopped job.
Note to Ramona: #metoo goes for men being harassed as well.
I was sad watching Beth talk about Dennis, especially the part about Brynn texting. I would love to see Beth on Hollywood Medium or even not on the show, just to have a reading with Tyler. I believe Tyler has the gift and that Dennis could say goodbye to Beth and Brynn. Just because Beth is moving on, doesn’t mean her love wasn’t real.
Dorinda must have had a turning point to even consider not drinking. Even for a day. But the denial is thick. As long as she can blame another person, she is doomed to repeat her mistakes. Same with Lu. Pot, kettle; drinker, drunk. Whatever. They both could benefit watching themselves on previous seasons.
Yes, Tyler was fascinating last night with Kenya Moore…. “I see scribble scribble scribble…a mother figure….scribble scribble… she is not your mother….scribble scribble… she is your grandmother….scribblle scribble and she says your mama is still a bitch scribble scribbble and your husband is hot.”
That was simply life changing for Kenya.
I see… a window… a person… saliva… tongues! Oh my…!
I have the gift too.
Did you see Macklemore and Wendi McLendon Covey? THAT was some stuff. Kenya shouldn’t have had it in a baby store.
Bethenny’s confessionals on Dennis are heartbreakingly real- the guilt, the questioning, the texts, the dismissal of questioning because it doesn’t matter he’s dead.
I really like seeing Luanne’s journey through this experience in the system. She has so many resources to be well yet no system that operates on rewards and punishments will fill her ego’s need for fame and attention. It’s a compulsion like alcohol. Use anything substance, food, sex is a symptom of a greater disease in a person with resources. It is just a symptom of a disease. Luanne needs mental health treatment not the black-and-white 12 step model that boxes people in so that she can be healthy and sober. Her children and ex-husband suing her is probably the best thing that could’ve happened to her, because when the people you love don’t need anything from you anymore and can walk away over money and houses you realize what really should drive you as a human who is vulnerable and empathetic. I hope we see her succeed.
Glad NYC is back! I’m so glad Carole is off the show. I liked her at first but last night was so much better. I’m might be in the minority but I enjoy Tinsley!
Is Luke ‘dorinda’s friend’ the same Luke who was Caroline Stanbury’s ‘best friend’/make up artist on ladies of London? Is he just a Bravo rent a friend? Also wish ladies of London was still on….
Apparently Caroline Stanbury will be part of next episode of Million Dollar Listing LA that partly will take place in Dubai, the broker Tracy says they are friends.