Jeff Lewis was Flipping Out on his Sirius Radio Show today. Multiple sources have report to Tamara Tattles that Jeff announced on his show that Gage moved out of the house last night. That already sounds dramatic. People don’t move out of the house at night, people have a fight and leave. People move out in the day time with moving trucks and police if necessary. The calmer version of what went down is that Gage left and went to a hotel.
It was clear on the last season of Flipping Out that the two seemed to be even more estranged than usual. They were arguing over things like Gage spending too much money on clothes for Monroe and tons of other little things like who should comfort the baby and how that should be done. In addition, they both work for Jeff Lewis Designs which is clearly a very stressful work environment and Gage is a very integral part of the company.
It is exactly that reason that Jeff said the split had not happened much earlier. They have several big projects at the moment where both of them need to be present. It’s unclear how that will work out not that Gage has had enough.
Also of course neither one wants to be apart from Monroe, even part time. Jeff referred to himself as a single dad because Monroe is with him. I think we all saw this coming but it doesn’t make it any easier.
Last fall, Jeff talked about a possible proposal to Gage on WWHL. Jeff said that he wished he would have waited longer to have Monroe. But they are planning to have more. Jeff said he is probably guilty of spoiling Monroe. Jeff admitted that he felt remorseful after watching back episodes with regard to how he treats Gage. He does said that he is super emotional and just lets it all out and Gage waits for the cameras to leave to do his yelling.
On the show today Jeff said that Gage leaving “is necessarily ultimately bad news.” Jeff said everything is his fault. He always says that and it seems more like a ploy for sympathy than an actually expression of accountability. Jeff knows he is an asshole and just expects everyone to take it.
Jeff did take some responsibility he admits, “I didn’t help matters any at all. I didn’t fight for the relationship. I didn’t work on the relationship but around New Year’s, I was like ‘Oh, I don’t really want this.’ So I worked really,really hard and I fought really hard to keep this going. But I think it was too late and I think there was a lot of anger on his side. A lot of anger and resentment.” But you can’t blame your partner for having resentment when you are the one that caused it.
He goes on to make other excuses. Gage was in his twenties when they got together and he was in his thirties and more ready to settle down. Gage actually seemed like the mature one in the relationship and he is going to be mortified and furious that Jeff is talking about their intimate relationship on the radio. That’s not being the mature one in the relationship.
The couple has been sleeping in separate quarters for nearly a year now according to Jeff. Jeff claims that they were still hooking up in sort a roommates with benefits situation. On the show Jeff would joke about Gage not wanting to have sex with him. Jeff said the fact that they still had sex made him feel like things would work out and Gage was still into him.
But things came to a head last night. Or um, did not come to a head, when Gage wanted to talk about the situation with Jeff. Gage said the intimacy was confusing to him and he needed to get some perspective. With the sex carrot gone it seems that Jeff told him he needed to leave. Jeff says he didn’t throw him out he just told him that if he needed perspective in a sex free environment then he needed to take the space and go deal with his feelings. I a pretty sure Jeff threw him out. Remember Jeff is the one driving this narrative and his version paints him a level-headedand we know he is not.
When Jeff said “didn’t cry” that means he had a nuclear meltdown that probably scared the shit out of Monroe and the night nurse.
Jeff is painting this as a separation for Gage to sort out his feelings with a possible reconciliation at the end. I feel like they both lawyered the fuck up today. I think Gage has had all he can take. And now that Flipping Out is probably done forever, he is free to go. Between the situation with Jeff and Jenni and the lawsuit with the surrogate, these two have a lot of stress in their lives.
I think we all know where Zoila stands in this. She always hated Gage.
I have hit the batsignal with my sources in Weho and so far all I have heard is, “Gage is available? Can’t talk now I have to go get my balls waxed!” So if any of them come up for air with some further information, you will be the first to know.
UPDATE: The streets are saying that something is ALLEGEDLY going on with Jeff and Drew Scott from HGTV’s Property brothers. Both are (or were) in “committed relationships.” I suppose it is possible that they are just close friends.
I’m not at all shocked about this, but it does make me very sad. I wish Jeff would grow up, get his issues under control, and stop driving everyone out of his life who actually cares about him. I’d love to hear Gage’s side of the story.
I know, right! Zoila, Jenni, Gage… and the many, many, many employees, all gone. When is Monroe leaving?
I root for Jeff and always hope he gets his shit under control. The show has entertained me for years. This makes me sad. Gage was sooo good for him.
This just breaks my heart. I really hope Jeff gets his act together and goes to Gage on his knees and begs for him to take him back. Poor Monroe! Gage was the primary caregiver and if there is no reconciliation you just know Jeff will be a dick about custody.
Jeff is the bio dad and they aren’t legally married. So Gage would have a difficult time trying to get primary custody. I wonder if Jeff allowed Gage to be Monroe’s adopted father? I don’t recall seeing that addressed on the show.
Gage is on the birth certificate. I assume that means he will have some parental rights?
If Gage is on the BC then yes.
While Jeff has a brilliant creative artistic mind he is so fucking insane, which is kind of what true artists are a good chunk of the time. He expects perfection in all things around him including his relationship and the fact that his abuse has destroyed that “perfect” picture he’s not happy. I always see him as trying to play the victim in his little bullshit “it’s my fault” game. I hope he pulls his head out of his ass at some point.
I don’t know why, but I have always hated Gage.
I’m with Zoila on this one.
I have not hated Gage at all, but I do find him passive-aggressive and I never liked the way he belittled Zoila, but I know she gave it right back too – I just loved Zoila so much on the show – miss her.
It’s impossible to be in a relationship with a narcissist like Jeff Lewis.
I hope for Monroe’s sake they can amicably co-parent.
Narcissists make shitty friends, partners and especially parents. He’s lost Zoila, Jenni and now Gage. Who is next? Monroe? He will never take his toxicity seriously as long as someone is there to enable him, whomever that may be.
Very true words, Navymommy.
Gage lasted longer than I thought he would. He probably stayed for Monroe’s sake. I hope he has some kind of support system to get him through future Jeff tantrums while the courts sort out the child custody and money issues.
Did Jeff’s therapy sessions ever help him? Doesn’t seem like it right now. His anger just never let’s up.
Has Jeff ever seen a therapist?
Yes. Since he was 14. It’s in the audio below. Gage has not. Jeff has encouraged him to find a therapist because he is so restrained with his emotions and holds everything in.
Jeff is trying to pin the breakup on Gage by explaining, “He doesn’t know how to communicate; he’s never been to a therapist.” Jeff then goes on to explain that he (Jeff) has been in therapy “probably since I was 14” but Gage never went and so never learned the “skills” of communicating his (Gage’s) feelings. He attempted to play this off by saying, “With me, you always know what you’re getting.” Because we’ve all seen Jeff rant, rave, scream, and belittle people. But he puts the onus on Gage for “Not knowing how to communicate and share his feelings.”
Talk about blaming the victim!!!
So you think Gage does know how to communicate?
I do think Gage is a grownup compared to Jeff and that he refrains from screaming. I think he realizes that you cannot outscream Jeff and that he chooses not to go head to head with him in a yelling match. And I believe he chooses his battles and doesn’t reciprocate tit for tat when Jeff is on a tirade ranting. I think that’s part of why they were together as long as they were; because Gage chooses not to get down in the gutter and engage with Jeff every time Jeff has a temper tantrum.
Now, whether or not he vents to Jeff off camera? I do think Gage knows how to let Jeff knows how he feels but that he does it off camera.
But I could be wrong.
Gage has admitted on the radio show in the past that he bottles things up and that he has gotten mad at Jeff off camera.
No breakup is entirely one sided.
Jeff said that he was proud of Gage, that he had recently started therapy. Jeff actually sounded a little hopeful that they could start over again.
Interesting as that seems to be the opposite of what I’ve read of Jeff.
Why am I not surprised? Maybe because we’re starting to see a pattern in terms of how Jeff treats others, including those who’ve been closest to him?
I hope Jeff gets the help he needs. I hope Gage realizes he deserves the love and kindness he wants in his life. And hands down, I hope Monroe doesn’t suffer as a result of whatever becomes of Jeff’s and Gage’s relationship.
Oh, and I hate to say this, but I hope this means the Bravo show is over. As much as I loved previous seasons of “Flipping Out”, I quit watching early last season once it became clear what was going to happen to Jenny. The toxicity was proving to be just too much, just as it has been for so many other shows on that network.
I agree did not watch last season, Can’t stand Jeff he thinks his sh#t don’t stink. As the saying goes.LOL
You missed a good season! Yes, it didn’t end well but other than that, it was very entertaining.
I’m not suprised at all by this sadly. I have a soft spot for Jeff but we all know he brings this on himself and the very people who love him the most, give and share of themselves with him are the ones who take the brunt force of his hate. I can’t begin to explain why Jeff does this but clearly he grooms his loved ones, then keeps them guessing, then drops them with a polite good bye parting, “you’ll be better off doing what you need to do…” and moves on, apparently without a tear. I am afraid for sweet innocent Monroe. Who is there for her now?
The show is over. Bravo did not pick it up for a new season. Jeff was a wreck; he campaigned for another season to no avail. I think Andy Cohen did alot to help him get his radio spot. Unless he still has designing clients I would be shocked if finances has not added to their break up. Jeff is a big spender. Nothing is good enough unless it is the “best”.
Bravo fired (aka did not pick up his option) after the Jenni situation. They already have another show that they think is going to replace it. Nothing can replace it. This will be the fourth home show for Bravo and the first three are not performing well.
Yes I always wonder how much can he possibly charge clients to finance that whole lifestyle, all the nannies and people to restock the bottled water in the fridge for God’s sake. It’s kind of crazy they pay people to do EVERYTHING. Lunch is either picked up by (I think used to be Zoila) or delivered. I doubt anyone cooks in those pristine kitchens. One of the most awful examples was Monroe’s swim lesson!! How much do you think it Ciara for someone to COME TO YOUR HOUSE in LA traffic for a swim lesson for a three month old baby?! It’s like they are just looking for things to spend more money on. The house flips have been horrendously inefficient lately with all the anxious anal perfectionism. The way he keeps redoing everything is criminally wasteful. So yeah it does seem like he lives wealthier than he actually is. Also the private planes.
It costs not it Ciara
No way a guy like Jeff Lewis didn’t make Gage sign some sort of financial agreement long long ago. Custody is what remains to be seen depending on what legal agreement or if gage legally adopted Monroe since biologically that is Jeff’s child and they weren’t married.
He is on her Birth Certificate as Her Father.
Jeff has been talking on and on on the radio about the benefits of Horny Goat Weed, which he recently started taking. Apparently, he has had the expected result from the use of the goat weed – in that his libido is up, and he claims he increased his penis size by at least a full inch. And he jokes constantly about how Gage reluctantly “obliges” him when he is horny. In fact, they had a recent situation when they were in Orlando staying at a resort and the mood hit him so he had his way with Gage, with the nanny and baby in the other room. Well, the baby crib was in their bedroom, and, much to their horror, they discovered after the fact that the baby monitor was turned on and broadcasting their entire escapade into the other room where the nanny was playing with the baby! They were kind of bonding over their shared horror over the entire situation. But they also did talk about the event as if Gage were just “doing his wifely duty” for Jeff, which really grossed me out. Jeff has always talked down about Gage and to Gage and, really, to everyone, so I wondered if Gage would last. I’m pretty sure they do NOT have any kind of pre-nup – they aren’t married, after all, so I will be curious to see how it plays out if they are broken up. Jeff has joked about a break up for months now. Here is my biggest concern: Did Gage ever adopt Monroe? Because we know that they used Jeff’s sperm for Monroe. So, if Gage didn’t adopt Monroe, I have concerns over whether he has any legal rights to her, which would be AWFUL if he does not!!
Gage is on the Birth Certificate as her Father.
Good.
You keep repeating that in this thread as if that means something profound.
The fact is we don’t have a lot of law on what a birth certificate means in the case of same sex parents
Legally, with opposite sex parents the man’s name on the birth certificate means only he is PRESUMED to be the father. If a biological test shows he isn’t, then he doesn’t have any legal obligation (or custody claim) to the child.
IF Gage hasn’t formally adopted Monroe, why do you think Gage’s name on the birth certificate would override the fact that he is not the biological father (if Jeff wants to contest Gage having custody)?
Don’t get me wrong: I hope Jeff wont be an asshole and fight Gage on joint custody but odds are he will be.
It does mean something profound. They are both considered legal parents just like a hetero couple. The biology of the offspring is irrelevant they both have the same legal standing. This is not a new frontier in 2019 and laws have been in place for well over a decade and closer to two decades. They both have the exact same legal rights and standing.
Gage needs to get his embryos out of any sort of joint storage though because that could be a problem that could get messy. I forget who it is… that has frozen embryos and the exhusband wants to take them and implant them and the mother doesn’t. It’s a famous actress whose name escapes me.
I haven’t followed it closely but it’s Sofia Vergara and her ex that are still in a battle over their embryos. It seems like that case has been going on for years.
Yes thank you I am brain dead tonight. It’s not really a similar case because both of them have DNA in the game and when it comes to “Gages embryo(s)” they have his DNA not Jeff’s.
Don’t filet me for asking this stupid question…but.. I know how surrogacy works between a womam in SB case
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Sofia V egg and Nicks sperm …but isn’t it just Gage’s sperm ….like is was Jeff sperm for Monroe? I get that their situation is different because they agreed to jointly implant them and are jointly on the BC.. but does Gage and the same bio woman for Monroe…have embryos together? Or did they find a different bio mom .. jointly…to carry Gages child.. I guess I’m missing some episodes..
As I said above, Gage has embryos that have his sperm and the donor’s egg. Yes it is the same donor as Jeff’s.
In the event that this is a final separation, it will be interesting to see if Jeff has any control of the the “Gage embryos” since the both went into it as co-parents.
If ever there was relationship where the parents should stay together for the kids, it should be this one.
The Vergara/Loeb case is sitting in the Court of Appeals waiting for a ruling.
Ive thought Loeb was angry, a get even anger and this is his way to stay in Sofia’s life and should not force Sophia into a lifelong bond and financial commitment.
I believe in love, where we do not create problems from our insecurities, your partner comes first
and “the love” is cherished and protected. The list goes on.
I never saw a glance between Jeff and Gage of love or a shared humor about someones words. They never gave each other a soft touch in passing, never saw a gesture of caring. not even bringing the other a glass of water. To me they had a working relationship.
Horny Goat Weed doesn’t do shit! Jeff has to be getting paid to say this, lol.
This custody fight is going to be really nasty unless they worked it out ahead of time since they used an egg donor and surrogate — which they should have because that’s what any lawyer would advise. I don’t care for Gage either. He always seemed like an opportunist to me. Jeff is a piece of work but at least he’s up front about it.
How could anyone have the reserves of self-esteem to be Jeff Lewis’s partner long-term?
Gage didn’t have to adopt Monroe, he is on the birth certificate as her Father.
I have so many questions. Who’s name is on the birth certificate of a surrogate baby in this situation? Is it the sperm donor father and the surrogate mother? Is it the two people who will ultimately take the baby? Jeff and Gage weren’t ever married, were they? What does the law say about these new situations? Jeff is Monroe’s biological father, and since he’s not married to Gage, does Gage have any legal claim here? Did he legally adopt Monroe?
Both their names are on the birth certificate.
Even if Gage wasn’t on the birth certificate there is a thing called “presumed parental rights”. He was there during the planning and birth can she has grown up knowing him as a parent. This is a huge component for the courts to figure out rights and custody. Of course it’s not as strong as biological or adoption or birth certificate status but it is taken into account and presumed parents have rights.
Gage legally adopted Monroe. I definitely heard it on the radio show but I couldn’t tell you what episode. (I think a Lea Black ep though)
I never warmed up to Gage but I still felt that he whittled himself down to nothing in order to hang on to Jeff and that lifestyle. All he ever said he wanted was a ring for Pete’s sake. I never heard a reason for Jeff to decline but you should know after 10 years right? Gage will have excellent dating luck I bet.
If this is just a ploy to tease out another season it’s worth it to me because Flipping Out and Pump Rules are all I watch in real time.
I really hadn’t thought too much about it before. People start families all the time these days without marriage but these two have been together a pretty long time, their finances are surely comingled at least at some level, they planned a baby, she wasn’t an oops, Gage was pretty clear he wanted a family and marriage level of commitment very early on and settled for family (baby). Gage may have been whittled down a bit too far. He seems the type to put up with a lot “for the sake of the family”. He was young when he met Jeff, who is a force of nature, of course he was attracted to him!
I see why people don’t like Gage…Zoila (kiss kiss, miss u!), commentors, but because they just kept moving forward I trusted this was a mutually beneficial relationship and that we just weren’t privy to their intimacy and affection. He seems to have pretty quiet reactions and maybe just wants a quiet life? Idk, throwing it out there…
It’s pretty difficult for two gay guys to have an “oops baby”, lol.
I bought that up because I think it speaks to the level of commitment they had in their relationship…
I loved the show for entertainment value, but couldn’t bring myself to watch the end with Jenni. Jeff is not a nice man and Gage seemed to be on eggshells the whole time. I hope Gage did adopt Monroe, Jeff seemed like he was not a hands on parent like Gage.
I’m disgusted that Jeff would be on radio so soon after talking about it. Gage will have many opportunities in all areas now and I hope he enjoys them.
Gage is her Legal Father, His name is on her Birth Certificate.
That’s wonderful. For him and Monroe. Would be nice to think Jeff will be adult about custody but that’s very unlikely.
Roza! We get it. Thank uou.
BRB off to get a back, sack and crack and go to my friends in L.A. FIGHT ME BITCHES.
I don’t know what half of that means, but it made me laugh anyway.
I think Mark assumes Gage is a top. 😉
Ahh! Gotcha. Thanks. Good luck, Mark!
Hurry Mark! He’s #1 got lost time to make up for and #2 he’s going to be highly sought after…good luck boo!
I don’t know what that means and I don’t want to know either. It is none of my business. It is too much information. I don’t want to know how they go about it.
The go about it with their hard throbbing dicks .Have you ever see a dick, Susie?
LOL, LOL, LOL. Tamara is never one to beat about the bush, so to speak.
I was joking because Mark was taking extra care to remove hair from his backside not just his sack.
Oops, meant as a reply to Tamara below.
Loved your response to Susie, Tamara!
Even if Mark is a top, which I doubt, I would hope that he would keep the back hair situation under control along with everything else. Gage would not take to back hair. Or a bear for that matter. Both Gage and Jeff are pretty metro.
What the heck does being a top or a bottom have to do with Mark having to get rid of his body hair?
Godspeed, Marc💥
What a year he’s had: lawsuit with surrogate, lost his grandmother, lost his BFF, lost his show, now lost his partner. His family isn’t too happy with him too. He’s gained a radio show and has a little girl, but his narcissism, impulsiveness, and obsessiveness gets him in so much trouble with every relationship he has, professionally and personally. Time to make more changes than just taking accountability. I love listening to his show, but for his own sake he’ll have to lose an audience to gain trust and respect. Put action (or rather inaction in acting out impulses) to improve. If not for himself, then for his daughter who will learn from him on how to interact with others and how to care for herself. Oh and Gage said (on the radio) he also put his name on Monroe’s birth certificate. So they both are legal guardians.
I hope he takes stock and ownership of atleady half…IN EVERY busted relationship.. Jenny…Gage…Surrogate…Bravo… Say what you will about Gage he obviously loves Monroe and did the heavy lifting With her especially are rough beginning.and I’m hoping Jeff’s not gonna be a d*** about that.
This is sad. Gage has put up with a lot and never should have agreed to have a baby together without marriage. I don’t know what Gage’s rights are? Do know he is the mother to Monroe. That poor baby has had a revolving door of nannies and now split up parents who travel quite a bit as it is. Andy Cohen loves Gage. Bet he’ll get in touch with Gage down the road. Gage seems like a nice guy and quite the catch with mid-western values.
I bet Chaz Dean is punching those digits too.
Ooooh. That would make an interesting new couple alert!!!
Or Andy
I would have thought that literally the last thing Gage wants right now is another partner with a newborn baby!
So many obstacles in this relationship. It was bound to come to a head. I knew it was coming to this. Having Monroe has not helped their situation and if anything has put additional strain on their relationship with a colicky baby with shrilling screams, conflicts on discipline and setting limits, Monroe’s emotional outbursts causing many of the nannies to quit abruptly. Hell. they can’t even fly with her on airplanes due to her behavior and screaming outbursts. Too many problems, lawsuits, loss of jobs, deaths, income, relationships. Even individual and couples therapy wasn’t working. I do hope that Jeff is not self-sabotaging. I wonder and worry for him. I never felt Gage was that invested in Jeff but was riding the gravy train and liked the business aspect of their relationship but even that has been in the shitter due to constant upheaval. worry for Monroe and for Jeff as he is really going to need help now since he really has limited support and is basically on his own now.
I usually get a lot of flak for it, but I am always pretty skeptical of relationships in which there is a big age gap. Also, the dynamic of an older, established usually financially secure guy partnering with a young, fit good-looking guy is exceptionally common in the gay community. And I can’t say that I’ve observed first hand a lot of success.
I’m not saying I don’t buy this. But if the show was over without Jenni this sure sparks new interest in the what will happen with Jefff/Gage, what about Monroe etc. If real it seems to me the timing of sharing it was planned out at least.
Jeff said Flipping Out has been cancelled. Jenni was a big nothing on that show. She’s been phoning it in for years making Vanderpump money. For her to blame Jeff for not having a career is ridiculous.
Kids can be hard on relationships, particularly if there are pre-existing or underlying issues.
And why does Monroe need a night nurse?? I have 3 kids, and they all slept very well through the night by her age. What are they doing in that house?
Having screaming fights, perhaps? Kids can definitely change a relationship for the worse if you don’t know the other person’s expectations, limits, values, etc. And if there is already tension, like you said, forget it. It only exacerbates it. I’m living it right now and it’s hell.
I feel for Gage. Trying to coparent with Geoff is going to be a nightmare.
Sounds like Gage has had enough and Jeff realizes he left it to late to change but is now hopeful and willing to do the work.
Not surprised. I could never understand why Gage put up with Jeff’s extreme moods swings. He wasn’t very nice to Gage judging from the episodes I saw. Not sure if Gage got with him for the money or what but I’m glad he’s out of there. Maybe he can find someone who doesn’t treat him like a punching bag.
Could you please pick one email and stick with it, Ruby? Thanks in advance.
Sorry the email issue has been corrected.
this is a new one, with a typo. Just use the one that rhymes please. Thanks.
The email below is my official email that I can be reached on. I’ll use that from now on. No typos.
Sigh. your date (YEAR) has five numbers. That is what we call a typo. If you would just go back to the one that rhymes and make sure it doesn’t have typos that would help me out immensely and stop wasting my type having this conversation with you in public.
I listened on the way home and felt Jeff loves Gage. I feel bad for all of them, hope they can repair their relationship. Career and family success don’t mix well .This is what I’ve learned in life you pick the one you value more in the end. I chose my family over being the big cheese.
Sad.very sad.
Post updated!
Jeff may have something going with someone at HGTV, but I seriously doubt it’s Drew Scott.
Oh, maybe it’s that guy with the horrible tattoos who has the lottery winners show.
The Scott brothers are straight or so they say. I don’t know how that’s possible though. My gaydar needed recalibration after the needle pegged in the red when I pointed at the TV the first time I saw them.
David Bromstad would be a great guess, especially if Jeff is spending time in Florida.
Oh I love David but don’t see him putting up with Jeff at all.
I don’t see him putting up with Jeff on regular basis either.
The realtor one is married married. Drew maybe?
Maybe a show? Drew just married a few months ago to a pretty Asian lady he’s been seeing for years.
One of them broke up with their long term GF last year and he may well be gay, but he seems like a nice guy, surely he wouldn’t fall for that. I hope not.
The show is over. Bravo did not pick it up for a new season. Jeff was a wreck; he campaigned for another season to no avail. I think Andy Cohen did alot to help him get his radio spot. Unless he still has designing clients I would be shocked if finances has not added to their break up. Jeff is a big spender. Nothing is good enough unless it is the “best”.
Andy didn’t need to “help” him get his radio spot, Its Radio Andy – Andy does the programming, etc. decisions. He’s the boss.
Oh, and I think it was Gage that was the big spender on clothes, etc. for Monroe – they weren’t Target clothes either.
Drew did just marry his longtime gf Linda who works for their production company as well. Jonathan and his longtime gf broke up recently and she’s already engaged to someone new.
The Scotts so own their own production company and do their own shows for HGTV. Perhaps with bravo not picking up Jeff’s contract, he’s looking into do something with Hgtv or the scott production company?
I remember on the season before the last one Jeff was talking about one of his clients and saying that they were talking about having a baby. He said that the only reason to have a baby was to save your relationship or something else. I can’t remember what it was. But I thought that was odd at the time. I thought then that something was amiss because he was having a baby. But I didn’t want to thing anything bad was going on. I haven’t even watched last season because it’s been a terrible year and I just can’t with the screaming and heartbreak.
This makes me so sad. I just wish them both peace and whatever is best for Monroe and themselves. Just because you love someone doesn’t mean you belong together. So sorry for them all.
Jeff cares about Jeff. That’s how he immediately gets over multiple traumatic episodes when most people would be balled up in the fetal position in a dark room. The break-up with Gage will roll off his back in no time. I know Monroe will not want for any material thing, but I just cannot imagine being raised by Jeff Lewis. Let us all hope the nannies and night nurses are all kind people.
The last time Jeff was on WWHL Andy mentioned him wanting to steal Gauge away (jokingly) but I also don’t think he was joking. If Andy and Gauge for together it’d be wild, but i feel like Gauge is smarter than that.
I thought about that too, and Andy has been in LA. But would Gage really want to go from one raging narcissist to another?
That’s too bad. I hope they can co parent nicely for Monroe. It seemed to me like Gage was more hands on with her. It must be killing him to not be with her in the home.
Oh my god, just listened to the audio. I’ve been a fan since the first season, but Jeff and the lady talking about their history with therapy was cringe-inducing. Gage’s problem was that he hadn’t been to therapy?! In all of Jeff’s years of therapy, did he not understand that saying whatever is on your mind within the confines of a therapeutic setting where you are treated with non judgment and unconditional positive regard is not the same thing as saying whatever is on your mind in a social setting. Knowing when to censor yourself is part of having good social skills. Saying whatever you think to people is not a good quality. “I’m just being honest” is invariably a defense when someone is just being cruel. And when Jeff says that Gage is not a good communicator, what he really means is that Gage passive-aggressively tries to get Jeff to fulfill his needs instead of stating his needs outright. Gage, conversely, wants Jeff to do them out of a selfless desire to make Gage. If Gage has to request it outright, then it has no significance. Jeff is doing it out of obligation rather than a legitimate desire to please Gage. In other words, Gage and Jeff each want the other person to be different people than they are. Hence, they are no more.
” Saying whatever you think to people is not a good quality. “I’m just being honest” is invariably a defense when someone is just being cruel. ”
This statement brings to mind Ramona. She is just as awful as Jeff can be.
Jeff is an ass but I love their chemistry on the radio show. I’m sad to hear they’ve separated. When I read Jeff’s account prior to coming to TT’s site, my takeaway was that Gage felt like he had settled down too young. hate I missed the radio show today. Poor Monroe.
Ha! Gage is such a boring control freak I’m sure he was like a 40-year-old in a 20-year-old’s body. The relationship was always depressing and gross – textbook narcissistic codependency and toxicity. It NEVER looked like either one of them actually loved the other. You can see love in a person’s eyes unless he is an emotionless control freak like both of these men and does not truly know how to give or receive love. Jeff is also abusive and pushes people away so nothing penetrates the wall around him preventing any emotion from coming in or out. As I’ve noticed in my experience with narcissists, when things are stressful or sub-par in the narcissist’s life then the lashing out and abuse become worse.
I think you have Gage all wrong. He shows great care and love for Monroe. He’s just quiet and reserved unlike Jeff.
Ha. Yawn.
It’s heartbreaking to see families break up. They both clearly love Monroe so I hope they can figure things out and reconcile.
I love Gage on the radio show. Jeff and Gage are the only reason I started listening to it live. I never care who the guest is or if there is a guest.
This is my recollection of a situation someone else commented on. Jeff and Gage both said on the radio show that shortly after they moved into their new home they accidentally left some kind of speaker system on in Monroe’s bedroom. They were watching Monroe on a video monitor. She was awake and up in her crib from 8pm-10pm which was not normal for her. They said they later realized the new Lindsay Lohan show they were watching was broadcasting in her room. This has been brought up several times since it happened. Nothing was said about a nanny in an adjoining room in Orlando while they were having sex.
Jeff has outbursts in front of the camera, but we don’t know what goes on afterward. I don’t know why Zoila doesn’t like Gage; it could be legit, or it could be jealousy, I didn’t watch then so I don’t know.
Jeff seemed to really be on a tear against Gage on the last season. But his grandma’s death left him profoundly bereft. He doesn’t deal well with sadness. Perhaps a good therapist could help … maybe not. But I hope they both put Monroe’s needs before their own.
Jenni enters stage right.
Two pieces of information I have not seen discussed yet:
1) On the radio show, Jeff has already complained that he can no longer take a sleeping pill at night because he (now) has to be able to hear Monroe at night and get up and tend to her. Since we all know and watched on the show, that Gage was the primary care giver. Oh poor Jeff! Having to wake up at night just to take care of his very own daughter!! I’m sure there are now a million and seven little things that Jeff is going to have to learn how to do, now that he got rid of his daughter’s one consistent and attentive parent.
2) On another podcast that features “Boots on the Ground” insider information, (not sure if I’m supposed to mention them per TT’s rules) someone reported that Gage had sex with someone else WHILE JEFF WATCHED. This was apparently an attempt to “help” Gage sow all those wild oats that Jeff claimed Gage never got to do, since Gage committed to Jeff at “such a young age.” Again, Jeff seems to be using this excuse for Gage leaving; that Gage tied himself down to Jeff when he was “too young” and hadn’t experienced life the way that Jeff, who was already pushing 40 had.
Wow… you left a WHOLE LOT out of 1. If you are going to report what you’ve heard on the radio, at least be accurate and be sure you’ve heard the whole conversation.
Jeff said that in the past year from hell, he hasn’t been sleeping more than a couple of hours a night and it was taking a toll. That while he and Gage were still having relations occasionally, it felt very “friends with benefits” as Gage was sleeping in the guest bedroom. He said honestly, that was at times painful and made him sad (no emotional intimacy) . He said that he had a high tolerance for the over the counter sleep aids, and he’d have to double up just to get 6 to 7 hours, and it wasn’t very restful sometimes even then.
But then he realized that as now he was essentially a single parent, he COULDN’T take the sleeping pill and was worried he wouldn’t sleep at all. But he said that night he had some of the best sleep he’d had for a year.
Jeff wasn’t claiming that Gage didn’t sow a lot of wild oats, I think it was a statement of fact. Gage didn’t date a lot before he met Jeff. I think that IS part of what he’s struggling with that he settled down so young.
*checks to see if the audio is still up at the end of this post* Yep, it sure is.
The more Jeff talks about the split with Gage, the less sympathetic I am to him. I just read an article where he said there’s a chance they might get back together in weeks or months, and yet he keeps blabbing his big mouth and saying things that paint Gage in a bad light. Why does he feel the need to air all their dirty laundry? It seems that we witnessed a lack of affection between them for quite a while now,
in fact, it made me uncomfortable at times.
Jeff is impatient, sarcastic and always positive that he’s right, which must be very hard to live with. In contrast, Gage seems like a bit of a cold fish, but that might be a defense mechanism in response to Jeff’s rudeness and lack of respect.
What it boils down to is that no one needs to know what goes on behind closed doors. Suffice it to say, Gage put up with enough and he left. I feel really sorry for little Madison. Jeff has never seemed as hands on with her as Gage was, which is kind of proven out by the fact he’s complaining about not getting sleep now. Gage must have been the one who took care of her at night.
Jeff needs to keep his big, argumentative mouth shut and show some dignity during this difficult time, especially if they want to keep things civil. Stop talking trash. Jeff, and trying to make yourself look better. I was really disappointed in the way you acted during the whole Jenny debacle and thought you were a grade A jerk. Then I watched the show for a little bit and started to be won over by your dubious charm, now I’m really turned off again.
I feel sorry for anyone with whom you’re in a relationship, whether it’s personal or professional. I think you’re a thoroughly narcissistic, unpleasant person, and you need to take a long hard look at the way you treat people, otherwise you’re doomed to a lifetime of failed relationships.
“Jeff is impatient, sarcastic and always positive that he’s right, which must be very hard to live with.”
You say that like it’s a bad thing! /Twirls
Touché!!
BE CAREFUL TT. Drew just got married and made a very public spectical of remodeling their dream house in 6 episode special and then an over the top wedding. She seems super sweet just seemed to Mary Poppins to be real for me. It rumored they both have beards for years but with all the well planned PR to make sure u have covered and protected youyself.
It been discussed a lot. This is not some brand new tea I’m spilling. It’s what the streets are saying.
I think it’s sad that precious Monroe won’t have two parents. But it would be worse to raise her with Jeff’s behavior as a model. Even if Gage does not move in, Jeff’s relationships with EVERYONE seem to be very dysfunctional and not good for her to witness. As a fellow perfectionist, I like Jeff, but he really seems worse after his grandma’s death.