Vanderpump Rules is my jam. Manufactured pathos, a WeHo hipster fantasy. The deeper the delusion, the sweeter the Schadenfreude. But something isn’t sitting right with me. Last week got ugly. In ways it didn’t need to. Billie is unlikeable. Katie is cruel. Childhood triggers can mess you up. Inclusion is important. So is communication. And very loudly, for the bitches in the cheap seats, cis-privilege is real. I’m exhausted. My weave is exhausted. The panty-liner on my underwear is exhausted. Welcome to the season of transgate. And I was worried they’d focus too much on wedding planning (bridesmaids, ooh rah rah).
Scheana has moved all the way to Marina Del Rey. It might as well be the Valley for all the bitching her housewarming guests do. The long ride over gives everyone an opportunity to rehash the Girls Night In debacle. A certain part-time hostess seems particularly keyed up about it. Like suspiciously keyed up. The OG witches refuse to film with James (and/or Billie) so they take a camera crew out to lunch. They enjoy raining on Scheana’s parade from their moral high ground.
Scheana’s housewarming party is as desperate as it’s hostess. Billie Lee is the first to arrive, armed for rhino. James is so desperate to film, he pretends Scheana didn’t make him move her things and then break up with him. Raquel clutches her Z Gallery gift bag like it’s a secret portal to a universe where everyone likes her boyfriend. As if that exists. When the Big Names arrive, they’re forced to interact with coworkers they otherwise avoid. James tells Lala he wants to apologize to HerManRan. He’s willing to do just about anything to be back in favor, even listening to her complain about Billie. But when Billie charges in to confront Adultery Barbie, James takes a powder. Lala is on her own, no second for days.
Instead of yelling, Billie becomes the hero we’ve been waiting for (but never thought possible). She explains why being excluded triggers her in a way Lala might not have previously considered. Her honesty and accountability make Lala’s stubborn ignorance all the uglier. Unable to fight a battle of words (math is hard), Lala shifts into ratchet mode. She dismisses Billie, as if her very existence hangs on Lala’s approval. Lala is so stupid she doesn’t realize how especially cruel erasure is to the LGBTQIA community. I just can’t.
Billie rises up. She’ll go toe to toe when needed. She and Lala scream insults, entertainment for the vapid and vain. Lala flees in a self-righteous huff. My secret girlfriend Ariana wakes up out of the fog she’s been living in and explains the Billie situation best: “Nobody intentionally excluded her. But you can’t say you’re an ally to a trans woman and then speak over her every time she tries to explain to you how she feels.” Ariana gets Billie to admit taking the issue straight to social media was a mistake. It’s so nice to see some humanity once in a while.
Scheana has no real connection to the cast anymore. Her storylines are particularly fake. But the editors occasionally throw us a little bone, some insight into the mind behind Madison Marie Parks-Valletta.
Producer: So you didn’t have, like, secret feelings for Adam while you were dating Rob?
Scheana: See, if I say this, then I look like the girl who was with Shay thinking about Rob, and with Rob thinking about Adam.
Discussion point: Am I the only one who finds Lisa Vanderpump’s expanded role annoying? The Toms are opening a bar but aren’t allowed anywhere near it. We get it, Lisa. You. Did. Everything. Now go back to Beverly Hills and handle your business, or go home. With all due respect.
It’s Tom Sandoval’s birthday and we get an homage to Grease. In a millenial remix of Summer Loving, Ariana and Tom discuss will they or won’t they… have children. They’re totally out of sync, headed for disaster, and only Jax sees it. They’re doomed. The scene is saved by the extra sitting next to Ariana. He tries very hard to ignore the camera. Very, very hard. When the boys do blowjob shots, Sandoval swallows without issue. Schwartzie chokes and I’m a little surprised he’s a top. With all due respect.
James is allowed to join the fellows at the cigar bar for some Boys Will Be Boys time. Jax brags about his strictly religious, Southern fiancée’s as-yet-unconfirmed flings with women. He tells the guys he only gets mad when he’s messed up and needs leverage. What a catch! High on nicotine and testosterone, Sandoval tells the story of Lala giving Ariana oral pleasure in the backseat of his car. James is ecstatic. For a brief moment, someone else is in the hot seat. He brags about Lala’s sexual gymnastics, “She does handstands…” When he implies Jax knows of what he speaks, the Jax redemption arc shuts it down quickly. James is terrified he’ll be uninvited from Jax and Sandoval’s 70’s roller rink birthday party. He already bought his skates!
By the time Sandoval gets to SUR, Ariana knows he’s been talking. She’s not embarrassed, she’s just disappointed. Her sexuality is for her pleasure, not to titillate an ocelot. It’s called consent, even when you’re mad.
The entire cast reunites for Jax and Sandoval’s birthday party. Normally I love a costume but they’re all idiots. Billie apologizes to Katie and gets total bitch in return. Way to be a sore winner, Katie. You’re not fat but it doesn’t hurt to be the bigger person once in a while. Lala confronts James about speakly indelicately of her. He hems and haws. They started it. It was an innocent joke. He thinks apologizing to Randall is enough. What more does Lala want? Whether due to her publicists advice or an extra long yoga session, Lala offers Raquel an apology. It’s aggressive and curt but it’s progress. That has to be enough for now.
Next time: The Life & Style party looms. Will TomTom be ready for the blessed event? Jax throws his estranged mother under the bus to gain sympathy. Lala is the strict headmistress Scheana needs. And James continues to blame everyone but himself, just like mommy taught him.
Lady Cocotte, your recaps are literary masterpieces!
I have never been able to get into Vanderpump Rules, probably due to my having no frame of reference to any of these people. They might as well have come from some alien planet. Do such creatures really exist, and what have I been missing? Blow jobs, swallowing. choking, lesbian sex, drama, all kinds of people who seem to have slept with everyone and everything, plus an overabundance of Lisa Vanderpump? My tiny mind is boggled.
The title of the show, Vanderpump Rules, seems innocuous enough. Who could have known?
The mere fact that you can make sense of all this, and actually place it in a format that intrigues socially challenged old biddies, such as myself, is astonishing. Said old biddy, after reading it from beginning to end, is now pondering the very meaning of life. Well done.
Thanks, English Rose. I write about trash, you ponder the meaning of life. My work here is done!
You are the Hemingway of trash. Truly gifted, a great eye for idiots.
And only Jax sees it. Oh, how I love that. Jax gives a good interview because he has a lot of insight on his friends. Plus, he’s funny.
It is painful to watch James. He so badly wants to make it all better. It doesn’t work that way, dude. I hope he can stay sober. Maybe if he does, forgiveness will come in time, but he needs to wait it out and prove that he’s changed.
Tom Tom looked good. I want more shots of that gear cabinet thing.
I can’t take Scheana at all. She’s like a boy-crazy 15-year-old. But Marina Del Ray looked beautiful. Stassi was funny giving directions.
Thanks for another great recap Lady C.
Help me understand this.
The boys go out drinking and talk about the girls. Tom brings up a box licking incident between Lala and Ariana during some brief stupid moment in their lives. And James basically says “that’s lala she’s a kinky one,” and someone asks for details and he says something like “she does handstands and stuff” and Jax runs off and blows up the conversation into some big thing that is no different from any beans that have been flicked….and licked before and Lala is mad at…..James? For referencing an HANDSTAND?
STOP MAKING ME DEFEND JAMES LALA! He is hardly worse than the rest of the douchebags.
That part drove me crazy too. How is James the asshole of this story? Don’t get me wrong, he’s an asshole. Just not THE asshole.
Jax is the number one asshole!
Oh Adam, Adam. Why,why,why?
Camera time, that’s why.
If Schwartzie could be the cuddly labrador puppy he is on the daily, but turn into an angry power top when the time arose, he’d be the perfect man. I’d sign up. IJS. Hit me up Schwartzie. My body is ready.
Ok, my freak number is low. What sort of bedroom move involves a headstand? I don’t know how to picture this in my head. Don’t your arms get too sore before you could enjoy anything?
I just can’t muster any positive feelings about Billie. She’s trying way too hard to be interesting and dramatic enough to be a full time cast member. Her jealousy of the original cast just oozes out of every pore, and I just can’t get on board her crazy train. That has nothing to do with her gender or sexuality and everything to do with her personality. I suspect she will cry trans hater or cis privilege at anyone who simply does not like her because it’s a convenient way to place the blame on them and avoid any self reflection.
I’ve always liked LaLa, and I’m really hoping to rumors aren’t true. However, she too is trying way too hard to be in the in crowd, and I feel like she’s lost a lot of why I liked her in doing so. I miss the LaLa who took no shit from the original cast and hung out with the people who didn’t make her jump through hoops to be their friend.
I was reflecting on how groups of girls treat each other compared to guys- Billie May not fully understand how this is how they treat all girls- not just Billie.
In the hierarchy, Billie is up there but not on Squad level with the witches. Remember her last week and the sympathy she got from the two “unknown Sur girls” at the hostess stand. They see Billie as someone in the mix above them.
We girls can be total bitches, and we fight the way we do and exclude and say awful things. That’s part of being a girl. Me, at try to restrain myself from doing it to friends and at work by watching it play out on Bravo with people I don’t know….
True. The bitches treat Billie way better than they treat Scheana.
Poor Scheana, she has had enough experience to know better from these past relationships and do better.
I have the benefit of being beyond 30 to easily say she needs to give in and be herself, as she is, and stop trying so hard.
Even if she does that, they still wont let her into the crew. They’re all staying stuck for the sake of a TV show paycheck….
Fun fact. Scheana Marie is 33.
Bless her heart…Tamara you make this so fun!
That’s a really good description and reasoning, GiGi. It is true, girls are mean, especially to each other.
I can’t either. I just don’t care. She’s the type that thinks being a woman is girls night and wearing make-up. Over it.
Women are excluded by other women ALL THE TIME! Welcome to the club Billie. They just don’t like YOU.
Exclusion always hurts and if it’s been a big part of your childhood it will hurt even more if you haven’t had the chance to come to terms with it. So I feel for Billie, I do. Ariana seemed to understand Billies p.o.v and that’s why no-one is mad at her. Katie and Lala need a long hard look at how they treat people. It’s not cute.
Agree with this 100%. For her to say it’s because she’s Trans is her reality for sure. I can’t speak to that experience. However, I can speak to my experience and I grew up a shy, sensitive, glasses wearing chubby girl that got picked on and excluded almost all the time. Bullied for being “fat” and “ugly” just because I didn’t fit the mold of what the “popular girls” looked/acted like. I was an easy target because my thick skin needed more time to grow. To say that didn’t affect me growing up and even now into my 30s, would be an understatement. I still have doubts that I’m not “good enough” when in a group of females. In a perfect world, we should all be included but Trans or not, females can suck and be exclusive at all ages.
Where she really and truly lost a ton of support was when she threw Katie’s weight into the argument for absolutely no reason. It wasn’t even relevant to the conversation, in my opinion. She attempted to disguise it in the argument, but Lisa saw right through it. It was simply a mean spirited bout of fat shaming, so she did exactly what she claims the other women did. Only no one actually shamed her for being trans! She made that up in her head, but what she said about Katie putting down the food wasn’t made up. She actually said it; therefore, she is the asshole! She’s the mean girl, and when she gets called out, she hides behind the trans issue pointing her finger at everyone else.
I agree with you about Billie! And Lala is still one of my favorite cast members even though she’s doing a little more following these days . I was laughing so hard when she said “ it’s about you and ya showed your asshole “. She overreacted to Billie just like she does to anyone who talks negatively about her man. I am with her on that. She’s a loyalist and definitely a friend you want. The pit bull comes out for those she loves .
Ariana was so mature and calm with her response in the heated situation . I think she would be a great mama one day! But she’s right and wise to not have any since she doesn’t want them, that’s not fair to the child. Anyone who thinks that having a child is like corporal punishment and stops you from traveling or living a vibrant life should NOT have kids .Pregnancy in itself is a miracle and babies -a gift . Maybe one day her perspective will change because I really do think she would flourish as a mom.
Also the friends still haven’t got the hint – back up off Brittany and Jax. Take them for their word – theyre happy, that’s all you can do anyway. Judgey speculation makes shitty friendships .
Ditto about Billie. I am tired of hearing about her being Trans. She just won’t let us be happy for her. She refuses to be happy for herself.
Billie, you are a woman now. Your transformation is complete but you won’t stop talking about being transgender. Go live your best life as a female. You are blaming others for not accepting you but it looks like your problem is self acceptance. A happy person is someone who is comfortable in their own skin. God accepts you and loves you. Go in peace.
Billie would benefit greatly by having a sit down lunch with Lauren Foster.
Great recap. Alain said, and Lisa agreed to keep the two Tom’s away because they would hold things up by asking questions like the five year olds they are. Lala is just gross in the way she talks and behaves. Why Schenna moved so far from filming is puzzling but love the area she’s in. Jax better hurry up if he doesn’t want to be in his 60’s having kids graduating from high school. I wish they would fire all of them and recast in a new restaurant, either Tom Tom or the new one in Vegas.
Jax is 39 (for the 3rd or 4th time). He’s going to be in his 60’s when his kids flunk out of high school. I mean, we ARE talking about Jax and Brittany. You know those kids are going to be dumb.
Dumb by nature AND nurture. If Arianna is godmother they MAY have a fighting chance.
Wow what a thing to say about someone’s innocent unborn children. Winning in life …
I cannot take any Scheana scenes…her vocal fry is on another level.
I, too, have mad love for Ariana…always have. I really loved when she put Sandoval in check, cool as a cucumber just shut him down, insulting his hat was the ultimate dig!
I see your handstand Lala, I may need to try that move!
I wish they would just let James in the group, he is hilarious when not on the defense.
That was a dismal review.
I like Lisa and enjoyed seeing her reveal Tom Tom to the Toms. She is far more magnanimous than she is being given credit for. Of course if someone doesn’t like her they will see her as taking credit for doing everything instead of having a genuine desire to surprise them. The glam steampunk decor is noteworthy and beautiful.
Also noteworthy is that Ariana just isn’t that into Tom. I hope he cuts her loose soon and let’s her be the hip but bitter bi old maid she wants to be. If the show was cancelled, she would abandon him soon after.
I didn’t start acting like Ariana until I was married for 20 years. She’s way too young and new in a relationship to act that way towards Tom. She’s wanted to be an actress from the beginning and is using him for a story; not a good one, but it’s something.
Yours is an excellent observation. You nailed it. She behaves disinterested as if they had already been married for a very long time. This is abnormal.
Now we find out that she likes women and probably prefers them, which explains a lot.
Tom blows her cover by telling the truth, which is a good thing.
She is his roommate with girlfriend privileges. She loves him but is not in love with him. She enjoys being his partner for a TV paycheck but she is not in it for the long haul.
I think Lisa is much smarter and more caring than people realize. She was looking out for Tom’s best interests out of genuine affection and concern for his future. By bringing him on as a partner, Lisa also knew it would help smoke Ariana out and it did. Either she would get on board and want to be his wife or stay aloof. She knew it would help his life progress, that he could expect more.
Tom is learning that Ariana isn’t willing to move things along as things should progress in a normal relationship. She fears pregnancy. She fears childbirth. She wants to travel. She wants this and that. She is stalling.
As Tom grows in confidence financially, we hope he finds the courage to cut his pseudo partner loose. Let her go back to bar tending and writing her cocktail book without airtime.
There is a cynical side of me that’s asking…. is Lisa doing this for Tom & Tom? Or did Lisa think about that poster she could make of Tom & Tom kissing, and the name Tom Tom, and realize she could cement her place in WeHo as the Queen of Pride? I’m probably wrong… I’m sure there are million gay bars in the area, but the thought crossed my mind that she is creating an upscale club for those who are sexually fluid with Tom and Tom at the top of that list. How much is it altruism and how much the almighty dollar?
Oh. That is interesting. The photo is what she had in mind all along? She gave them a stake in the business as guarantee that they would not object. She sprung it on them after the bar was complete. She is cunning.
You are 100% correct. To exploit them and their photo she has to give them a piece of the action. It all makes business sense now.
Oh please tell me y’all are being sarcastic with this Lisa made them partners to use the picture and be the queen of pride BS. Lisa is already the queen of Pride.
i have been to TOMTOM and the picture is no longer there
Correction. Lisa
is already the queenexploits pride well enough without a picture of her bar staff kissing.You seem to know A LOT about Ariana!
She’s more into girls than men, she doesn’t love her boyfriend, she doesn’t even want to be with him and LVP brought Tom in as a “partner” not for profit but to smoke Ariana out.
Fascinating stuff.
Thank you for this.
Some folks write their own fan fiction, GLH. Can we have Ariana and Kristen fall in love, move to Montana to raise horses together? They could have a sideline breeding German Shepards.
I like this idea. I do think that if she were a lesbian and not bi or fluid, she’d be out and about. I also think you can have a shy vagina but cut loose at times. I don’t think it was a fake storyline because I know people with similar issues but it is not as if they don’t have better periods. With Lala – they were disinhibited by drinking and having fun, but I also think Lala makes her feel beautiful and safe. I think her experiences with her ex were far, far worse then she has let on. She has said that she doesn’t want to say more for fear of retribution or waking a sleeping dog.
I completely saw the Billie/LaLa fight in a different way.
Billie is a thirsty bitch who will do whatever she can for screen time.
Billie knew exactly what she was doing by not specifically calling the WeHo transphobic but liked and retweeted the other posts that did.
While LaLa is rough around the edges, Billie is certainly hurting her cause.
Adriana plays the fence more than Sheana does lately.
I don’t think Ariana is on the fence. I think she lets the kids fight their own battles while clearly stating that Billie’s exclusion – while it felt hurtful – was not based on transphobia – which is the truth. However, Lala was a twatwaffle with her finger pointing, dismissiveness and superiority complex. So both Billie and Lala were wrong for different reasons.
Thank you. Billie is looking for screen time and playing the only card she has.
Lady Cocotte I love your Pump rules recap! It’s one of my favorite shows and I do think its driving young people to move to LA. Get your start climbing up the entertainment industry while having a great time partying and waiting tables! If only it were that easy, I knew people who came home from LA who felt washed up and were called old by 30. This after years of waiting tables, head shots, acting classes etc.
I do have a couple questions about the show. Do Tom and Tom have any real responsibilities at the Tom Tom Club or was Lisa taking their 50000 check like Craig Conover giving a check to JD to join his business? Also, as far as Scheana, how/why did she move to Marina del Rey? If she wants to film with the rest of the cast, Weho is a bit of a drive from MDR, and she will miss filming opportunities. Also, MDR always seemed to be full of older people, playboys, airline folk, even Scheana mentioned the men had parties on their boats the previous night. Is Scheana now going for an older man instead of Rob? She must have made a lot of money oh her Vegas gig, as her Marina pad looks pricey.
Yes, the Toms are the Craigs of VPR. Nice catch!
The Toms each forked over 25K for a 5% stake in Tom Tom’s. They’re the “face” of bar, LVP & Ken are the majority stake holders and hopefully they’ll be able to grow the fuck up and actually work, learn to meet deadlines, etc… So far, they’ve proven they can’t meet a deadline, stay sober for meetings…so I don’t blame Lisa & Ken for not including them in the design & set up because they don’t know what the hell they’re doing.
These business transactions are not always real. And the have 5% if it is real between the two of them. They will never have a say in the day to day business and they know it. All off the not being allowed at the club and then showing up and the drunk business meetings and such is all production driven. None of it is real.
my take on Billie Lee – she has a rare opportunity to “school” and show people that – the struggle is real. Instead she grabs a huge ego and uses her platform to lie and create the “trans” card! .
Proof is in the pudding, aka tweets with Billie lee being tagged in the event, not after Billie Lee has her tantrum. And Lala is right – each bravo employee/ celebrity has control of their own social media, and shutting down hate is that persons responsibility. The day this happened, Billie lee encouraged and answered the hate – instead of being honest – oops, didn’t see that I was actually included, my bad!
Because someone apologizes – does not mean that the other person needs to accept it. Kate got hate on social media for weeks after this debacle – meanwhile Billie lee sent out “poor me” IG’s by the dozen, and she has now “cleaned” her social media that reflects what Lala said “you didn’t shut it down”
of course Billie Lee (my faorite) is going to make herself scarce with Lala and Katie at work – since when do these Bravo people face their consequences in the face? oh well.
I find it fascinating that Katie has literally dethroned Stassi as Queen bitch of the witches of Weho, I also find it interesting that Lala is now accepted. I didn’t care for Patrick because he made me feel sorry for Stassi with how terrible he treated her, I prefer to not like her. I do like her boyfriend a ton. I feel a little for James, that kid has been fucked from the word go and I just wish he’d get his shit together but he hasn’t had good examples so it might be a while. I usually forget Billie is trans, she should stop reminding us and stop with the bullshit. She had an opportunity to shut some shit down and she didn’t do it. Lala, I did love you so for not giving 2 fucks about the bitches, I hate how you’ve gone to the dark side. Ariana has to be one of my all time favorites, she is usually the voice of reason and Sandoval totally stepped on his dick by telling that story. That’s nobodies business but those girls.
On the other hand, Sandoval has been covering for her by keeping this information under wraps. Some might consider it cheating. It probably has been bothering him for a long time. Finally the truth comes out and now we understand his frustration with her lack of long term commitment. He broke her confidence but maybe he feels that the guys have his back more than she does. He is airing his grievances about her. She abused him. She did it in his car. That is nasty. She is nasty. Kristen did it on his sofa. She did it on his bed. Yeah, he resents her behavior and finally outed her. She disrespected him and their relationship. She wants to be on the show. This is what happens when you get down with a cast member.
If Sandoval was upset about what happened, he should have talked to Ariana about it. You know, his partner. Instead, he played the cool boyfriend to her face until he was ready to publicly shame her. I kind of get why Ariana doesn’t like him.
If it bothered him so much he could have pulled the car over and called them an Uber. Bringing it up to the guys was not the best way to address the situation if it truly was an issue.
One hundred percent, LC and SCF. Time and place. Was Sandoval’s “outing” some passive aggressive payback because he was “a little annoyed?” Or was he just trying to make good tv? Either way, it was a shit move. [Assuming, of course, it wasn’t all planned in advance as a storyline.]
I like Ariana and Sandoval. Just not together.
Tom was there and aware and Ariana hid nothing. Jax and Kristen did it behind his back. Maybe they have an agreement, also.
His girlfriend hopped into the back seat of his car and let someone do things to her while he was present. Is that cheating or what do you call it? Whatever the case, it is certainly not just between her and Lala. She did it while Tom was there. How bizarre and maybe disrespectful too.
If your partner did something similar wouldn’t you be angry? Instead she was angry with him for recalling the disturbing incident of her bad conduct in public. What if someone walked by? What if the cameras were rolling?
She has a twisted view of who should be angry with who. Expressing her sexuality while being his partner and in his presence is just sick. She is demented and perverse to think he would be okay with it. He was probably in shock.
Why is there an arrow pointing to the dude in the first pic?
Because he’s the star of the episode. Am I the only one who saw him mugging his way through Ariana’s bar scene?
my girlfriend was at Tom Tom last night and said drinks and apps were fun but ALL of the plants and flowers are FAKE! even the little succulents at the tables! Fakery in the bakery – just like LVP!! I saw the flower PUMP wall was also fake fake fake like a step n repeat at a funeral home. Jeezus we own a fairly dirty nightclub innthe PNW and even all of our plants are REAL.
Frumpy grandma decor with plastic greenery. I can’t wait to do the SUR-Pump-TomTom pilgrimage the next time I go to LA but let’s call a spade a spade. LVP’s style smells like mothballs.
I smell Giorgio Beverly Hills that’s been in the bottle too long. But yeah, I’d still make the pilgrimage to all 3.
Oh God, I used to love that scent! (Probably still do just haven’t smelled it in a looong time) lol.
Giorgio was my favorite to wear back in the 1980s.
There is nothing more stank than rancid perfume. When that stuff gets old, throw it out.
Does anyone recognize Brittany in the opening sequence of each show? It’s bothered me from EP1–her face is like another person!! What is going on there?
Totally! Scheana’s entrance is hysterical in it. I laugh at it every week.
My vote for best opening sequence ever, I watch it every week, never fast forward, can’t wait to see this LadyC tho I really don’t have to after your recap! Thank you
Did anyone else notice that James seemed less than sober at the roller rink party? In my opinion anyway.
Yes! At the cigar bar too. He thinks his problem is alcohol but it’s bigger than that. James is an addict. Replacing alcohol with drugs won’t help.
Ok I’m stuck on the Ariana/LaLa thing. Didn’t we spend last season listening to how Ariana hates her vag? Isn’t that cheating? If I were Tom and not getting sex and then the gf gets oral in the back of my car in front of me, I would be upset. Tom cry’s over everything yet he seemed so okay with the whole thing.
I think he wants to be cool (not like, uncool), but it really does bother him. I’ve never really understood them as a couple.
Tom has good reason to be upset with Ariana. Why not tell the guys what she did? It is shocking. It is cheating. She has been playing him and making excuses for giving him the cold shoulder. He is an abused boyfriend in love with a lesbian. She should just own it and stop holding him back from marriage and children. 🌸🌸🌸 Her comedy sucks too.
Arianna has slept with TomSan, Scheana, Lala
Lala has slept with Arianna, Jax, James
Katie has slept with Peter, TomSchw
Stassi has slept with Peter, Jax
Kristen has slept with Jax, James, Brittany, TomSan
Scheana has slept with Arianna
Main Cast Hookups- Girls
That’s all I can recall of the girls. I didn’t include the current paramour except in Brittany’s case.
actually I forgot Brittany.
Brittany has slept with Kristen, Arianna Jax
Wow didn’t know any of that!
arianna and scheana hooked up? which season was this revealed?
It’s too bad really. They could have picked a better representative for the Trans community than this one. Her borderline personality traits just mean chaos. You can’t fix this unfortunately.
Lady C! I love your re-caps but they seem to be smoking some crazies out of their hiding places these past few weeks 😂
I think LVP has an expanded role because she has more control and a higher level of respect on VPR. Which is kinda meh. I prefer RHOBH where Rinna plays the role of her constant foil perfectly lol.
I KNEW I hadn’t dreamed that Lala and Jax hooked up. I am PRETTY SURE it was after he was with Brittany and she was moving out west but he was playing it like she was a casual GF. And then Lala referenced it once saying “we fucked and it was no big deal” or something like that. The edit was pretty low key.
Jax shut that revelation by James DOWN. SO FAST. Because he doesn’t want Brit-AM ENGYED-nay to know.
I thought the same thing. Why did Jax get so upset when James referenced Jax and LaLa and the headstands. He must have told James that he hooked up with LaLa and she did a headstand? ( What ever that is, have to check Urban Dictionary I guess) But they are all so open about their hookups why does this one bother LaLa and Jax so much? One of them had to be cheating when it happened. I’m guessing Jax cheating on Brittney.
My biggest takeaway from this episode is that Ariana does not in fact have a SHY VAGINA. Her vagina seems very outgoing on full display at the slightest request from…well anyone.
Ariana is not shy at all! It was she who recently explained call times on Twitter and talked about how this is a TV show and a job for them…
I walked away from last week’s preview thinking “why would Tom share that out loud to the boys? What about their relationship?” and then I reminded myself that these are not real relationships and it is a TV show…
OMG It’s not real??? I have to keep reminding myself…
Agree. That is the takeaway.
She becomes less likable with each episode. Her brother is probably creepy too.
Also the guy mugging for the camera in the first photo could be Red Scarf Guys brother. At least to me, the person with no facial recognition skills.
I know we’ve likely moved on from this post because it’s from yesterday, but I just need to vent this out. I think Ariana is great. I also think she deserves so much more than Tom Sandoval. She’s smart, witty, and mature. He comes off like a fucking child. During the whole Ariana and Tom sex draught season, I was thinking a large part of her reluctance to be intimate with him was a manifestation of her subconscious telling her he isn’t the one.
I wonder if part of her reluctance to marry or have children is in part due to the mismatched partnership she’s in. I see her with someone as intelligent and mature as she, someone who challenges her, but what the hell do I know? I see a small part of their lives, so maybe the dude is just playing a role.
Such a great point !! I also think she deep down knows she has outgrown Tom. I pick up a “ love him but not in love with him “ vibe . I know the thought of marriage terrified me and said I would never get married until I met someone I knew I wanted to spend my life with.
I have a question that definitely comes from a place of ignorance, because I’m not familiar with anyone in a transgender situation, but someone enlighten me…
If you are a woman in the wrong body, once you have fixed that body, why do you call yourself transgender? And why make everyone aware of it like its a personality trait? Sure, you’re gonna open you to people you love and care about, but surely you’re just a WOMAN now?
It’s a little odd to me when she’s all, “don’t make me feel like I’m not a REAL woman,” while consistently reminding everyone she’s a transgender woman, which literally means you used to be a man. It’s confusing for my little Neanderthal brain. Help me understands, internet!!!
It’s my brain just to black and white? Like, if you tell me you were born a woman, had surgery so the outside matched the inside, nothing else needs done, especially when you’re “passable,” then you’re a woman. No questions asked, no need for further discussion.
Mark, thanks for your thoughtful question. I’m certainly not an expert on trans issues but I’ll offer my opinion. The biggest thing is trans women are women. Pre-op, post-op, no matter what name they call themselves, they’re women. Billie calling herself a trans woman doesn’t negate or lessen her femaleness. If she constantly called herself a blonde, she’d still be a woman. Same idea.
Not all trans women have the body/facial structure (or means to purchase them) to pass as a cis woman. When a quote unquote straight looking woman like Billie claims her trans status, it helps people recognize ALL trans women as women. Billie has been through a lot to reclaim a body that matches her brain chemistry. She deserves to be proud and recognize her trans identity. She doesn’t deserve to play the trans card (because that’s inherently manipulative) but that’s a separate conversation altogether.
Perfect answer for me. I tried to respond to this great question last night but I just couldn’t find the right words.
For example, I think this is a timing thing and this period of time is about education, acceptance will come I think very quickly. I believe in probably less then 20 years (Seems long but really quick in the history of this plight), yes, it’s a story (hx) that will be shared but the person sitting in front of you is the sex they were born to be. I don’t think it’ll be a deal breaker in relationships, we all know someone who’s transitioned (maybe not) but I have and there were so many barriers, fear, misunderstandings on and on. A lot of locker room type giggles and questions behind her back. That’s never a fair set up. She was always very honest with me, I learned a lot. I think it’s going to be okay, but we have to accept that some people are going to have severe opinions, either try to educate with kindness or remove their prejudice from your mind and heart by not agreeing and staying true to that.
Billie has a chip on her shoulder. I do too about certain things. We’re all going to get better at this.
Sorry, I literally answered this question a number of times last night, I still don’t think my words express my thoughts and feelings correctly.
Here’s the other thing, some people in life, you’re just not going to like and visa versa if you just don’t click. Here’s to the day no one needs to wonder if it’s because of sexual preference, transgender, any part of that. I’m glad somehow I learned that in kindergarden and never was intimidated by my choice of friends. Of course I’m attracted to people who make me laugh, challenge me, understand but don’t always agree…I like that so I attract like minded…human nature? Blabbed on too long, thanks for the forum TT, you’re the best LadyC and I always love your comments Mark, if you need a place to cuddle after LA, I’m always here for you!
Haha! Thanks guys! I love that this is a place where I can genuinely ask my Ignorant Bastard questions and get thoughtful answers, without someone instantly going to a place of negativity. I understand a little better now… Who knew Tamaras gossip site would be a place of education??? 🤣
And LC, I think that may be what added to my confusion… the fact it seems like she was “playing the trans card” more than advocating her truth. It’s never a good look on anyone, no matter your situation.
Am I the only one who Scheana managed to get exhausted during this episode?
I think she said more times that ‘yes, she had slept with Adam, but no, they are not a couple (basically because he doesn’t want to)’ in this episode than all her ‘Rob can hang a TV in less than 7minutes’ during the last whole season.
My Gosh!
Also, when will Ariana leave Tom? (Poor Tom, hopefully Kristen is not around to try to get him back. Nah…she would be too busy trying to bring James down)
Poor Raquel, she thought she had a strong role this season. Lala summed it up :Sorry. You’re welcome’ and then she left