Or just a drug supplier? Word on the streets say this soon to be married young woman doesn’t look like she has slept for days. The Tamara Tattles source, who lives in her neighborhood says she has vacant eyes and scraggly hair when off camera and often looks like she hasn’t slept or bathed in days. The source says she is super pale without makeup.
Fame seems to be taking its toll.
Blind Item conglomerate sites who make their money off everyone else’s sources are welcome to use my blinds as long as you do not remove my links and site me as the source. Otherwise, we’ll have a copyright infringement issue. Thanks to those who do! š Love Ya!
Lala or Brittany
I’m guessing Lala. Brittany doesn’t have the physique of a drug user.
I agree, she hasnāt looked herself this entire season IMO. But her Dad did recently pass away, so I kind of took that as a reason…..but she does like pasta!
I lived a whole summer on Korbell and cocaine and looked like the picture of health. I thought I was fat; I wasnāt, but that is hindsight.
Crap. I hate to hear this. Myself AND my son have both overcome opiate addiction and I just can’t stomach what it is doing to our society. Suboxin, in my opinion should be handed out like candy on Halloween. If you are diligent it works. The Dr. visit costs me $100 per week but I’m clean. Ish. I got addicted because of surgeries and just could not stop. They were giving Terry my drug of choice in insane amounts so I decided when he died, that was it. I hate this and I feel for her so much. I don’t even want to know who this is. Sorry T I need to stop oversharing. But this sucks.
Love you, Nancy! Your comments are always absolutely honest, informative, interesting and often humorous. Thank you for being you. I don’t have a clue who this blind is about, but wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Such a struggle. I’ve seen addiction in my own family, particularly a grandson who also has mental health issues and is struggling (in jail at the moment), and another grandson who overcame it, is now clean and sober (ish – he occasionally smokes medical marijuana – legal in CA, but compared to heroin, that’s a big improvement in my mind). He’s been clean and sober for five years now, has a great job, a home, wonderful partner, and a beautiful new son. When I listen to him talk, I don’t know where anyone gets the strength to overcome it. I have nothing but mad respect for anyone who does.
English Rose, Coco, David Syd – Thank you so much you really don’t know how much that means to me!! For real it touches my heart ā¤ļø A Lot. Thank You!!
congrats Nancy, hope you are proud of yourself for winning.
Takes a diligence and determination to be where you are today.
I also don’t want to know who it is, hopefully the problem will be corrected soon.
Nancy, thanks for sharing your story! God’s strength to you as you continue your sober journey.
I 2nd this comment. This is as far as I’ve gotten through this blind item. Everyone has been so honest, caring and uplifting.
I’m getting to know and understand ya’ll, TT’s followers in bits and pieces. What a motley crew of wonderful people! I love that we can share our life experiences, get catty, be nice, listen, laugh, cry and watch the very bowels of TV to some of the best together.
Yup, 4 glasses of wine in…no intention of stopping, have a bota box, I worked too much last week, house is clean, laundry done, I can relax for 12ish hours before I need to adult again.
Thank you TT!
Well done Nancy – it takes a courageous person to admit that they have an addiction, and get their life in order
Glad you have professional help
Wishing you many happy and healthy years a head !
Thank you also for sharing, Nancy. Been on Suboxone for 11 yrs now, it saved my marriage, my family enjoyes being around me now, and I have a purpose in life. My problem now I panic when Dr. tells me itās time to get off of it. Question: why do you go weekly? Congrats on being Clean!
Hi Mary Ellen,
My nephew is on it and it saved his life. He’s panicking about getting off of it though. He tried and it was like going through withdrawals all over again.
SLOW and steady. I took 1.5 years to come down from methadone maintenanceā never slipped once, never used again. Doing it too quickly is setting yourself up for failure. If he canāt get incremental decreases, MAYBE it would help to switch to methadone and go the liquid route. I wish him luck and fortitude.
WOW I would have never thought suboxone was so pervasive in this forum! I actually worked with a physician for several years who was one of around thirty addiction specialists to have initially tested suboxone decades ago, and eventually facilitated the release.
He personally believes that a patient who is successful on suboxone shouldnāt attempt to get off, ever. But thereās a lot of dissenting opinions.
For all the above questions/suggestions:
1) suboxone should NEVER be ceased for methadone in replacement therapy. Methadone users are advised to transition to suboxone, not the opposite. Methadone is stronger, more dangerous, and much much harder to taper off. Iāve seen patients suffer post acute withdraw symptoms for years following cessation of methadone.
2) For the commenter who has to go to the doctor weekly, if you have a successful track record of clean drug tests, etc. I would advise switching providers. It could be difficult to find depending on the area you live in – legally a doctor is allowed only a limited number of suboxone patients – but you should have a doctor who provides subscriptions based on 30 day intervals, especially if youāve been on it for a long duration and demonstarted success. Thereās no reason for you to be paying $100 a week unless your doctor is money hungry.
3) For those of you attempting to get off, tapering is everything. Taper taper taper until
you can go every other day without a dose. You can google the āRobert_325ā taper plan that has for the most part become a cult standard. Additionally, thereās a standard list of vitamins and amino acids (L Tyrosine, etc.) that are believed to help lessen PAW symptoms, which in my opinion is the number one source of relapse ā after going through the horror of withdraws, youāre on a pink cloud for several weeks, until PAWs sits in and you question why you ever got off suboxone in the first place if this is what sobriety feels like. You have to fight through those first 2-3 months.
I hope my unsolicited advice helps anyone out there!
Yes Ktina, The two days I tried to detox off of Suboxone it was not pleasant at all to the point it terrified me! The withdraws were unbearable, so needless to say Iām back on it. Tell your nephew Good Luck in his efforts.
Thank you Mary Ellen!! Great to hear from another fellow sufferer!! I appreciate your comments more than you will ever know!! Glad to hear you’re doing so well!!š
I don’t go weekly that’s just what it averages out to. Can’t find anybody cheaper !!
Sometimes the detox/maintenance clinics get subsidies and / or grants that will cut down your cost.
I had several surgeries last year, after the first one I took the painkillers they gave me, on the schedule they gave me, for about 5 days. It took me a further 5 nights of being completely unable to sleep to get off them. I had developed a physical addiction in just 5 days. And the whole time I knew that if I just took one, I would finally be able to sleep. I never filled the prescriptions for any of my subsequent surgeries. They shouldnāt be allowed to just hand them out so freely without more warning and education.
Nancy, your story is important. I went through Suboxone therapy to get off all of the medications that the drs on base prescribed me for migraines. Had I not left those doctors, Iād still be taking tons of pain pills. They really do seem to make pain worse when prescribed wrongly and for long periods of time. However, I hate that now you have to practically beg like a junkie just to get normal pain relief. I crushed and almost totally cut my finger off in the fan of our very old leaf blower two summers ago and in the ER they were like āwe donāt give narcotic shots unless the pain is unbearableā. Well, my finger was falling off!! That counts as unbearable pain. The whole pain situation is just a mess. Letting doctors treat patients as individuals and monitoring prescribing patterns should be enough. Blanket statements like the one used that day in the ER cause undue stress and suffering for all involved. I also believe having medicinal marijuana available in all states would be a great thing. Iāve used some of the topical treatments for the R.A. pain in my hands and they were the best things Iāve ever tried. I was afraid of getting āhighā, lol, but there was no effect like that at all. I didnāt mean to write a novel, sorry! Just know that youāre not alone and that everyoneās story matters.
Oh Amanda honey – I hear that too. I had weight loss surgery (gastric sleeve – 70% of my stomach cut out) with only Tylenol. As an addict, I get it, but I begged the nurses to kill me when I woke up. I was like the little girl in The Exorcist.
Blondesense, you needed whatever they could give you for pain! My medical records show I used Suboxone for pain management to transition to a better treatment plan. There is no way Iām going to have surgery without post op pain relief. Doing so can cause all sorts of problems with healing. I mean you were in a medical setting being highly monitored. What could you have done? Ppl in so much pain theyāre numb or want to die deserve to maintain theyāre divinity whether they smoke crack or heroin. Weāre all ppl and drs should do no harm. I got my shot of something that worked and I got the proper prescriptions for my shattered detached middle finger but honestly, if I was a medical professional who just met a young woman bleeding through towel after towel and holding her finger together into one finger, Iād give her the ALL of the good stuff in an IV. And the rest of the prescriptions helped the physical therapy and the weekly reset as cartilage formed to connect the bone shards together. I hope that youāre doing well now.
In my early 20s I fell and herniated two discs in my back. Pain pills allowed me to move again to the point where I was able to heal myself. My Grandma, who is in her 80s and had her cancer return for a third time, has to take a pee test and feels likes sheās being treated like a criminal to get any sort of pain pills. Itās sad some people get addicted. But itās not fair to make others suffer in pain because of it.
JustJenn, thatās exactly what I was referring too. Itās disgusting and it doesnāt help anyone. My late husbandās oncology clinic had them doing random urinalysises and they could be called in for ārandom pill countsā. Terminally ill ppl deserve pain relief, the elderly deserve pain relief, everyone whoās in serious pain deserves treatment with dignity. I just wanted to get off what a questionable set of doctors prescribed me and we all know that an addict will get their drug of choice regardless. Making grandmaās, the terminally ill, and ppl with chopped off fingers jump through hoops because they need medical care isnāt the answer.
I just feel like thereās no in between now with perscribing opiates. Iāve had several surgeries at age 37 and always received pain medicine. Usually just a few more than what was necessary. A few months ago I had a hysterectomy and several prolapse repair surgeries all at one and received NO pain meds at all after I left the hospital the next morning! Only a few Valium which were useless for the pain. I had to call the 24 hour nurse line and beg for some medicine for which I got a 3 day supply. With no history of addiction I find it extremely unfair for those who need it for short term conditions.
I agree completely.
I suffer from Postherpetic neuralgia (PHN) , itās nerve damage/ nerve misfires after having shingles (40th Bday, will never forget) basically the breakout happened the morning of my bday, but looking back I had (what I thought was the flu) for 10+days a week or so prior to shingles outbreak & during that time the area that now (constantly feels like itās being hit with a blowtorch on high) was numb, I didnāt think much of it at the time & never thought shingles SO not getting the antiviral meds soon enough is most likely the reason I have PHN. Itās taken a lot of time and trying different meds (thank God my Dr is wonderful) but as of the last 8mths Weāve found a great medication combination ( Iām terribly scared of prescription meds period & tried everything before narcotics. i also take ālow dosesā compared to others w/ this, but itās enough narcotics that Iām constantly worried bc of all the drug laws and government officials āmaking these guidelines & not taking into consideration that many people on pain management donāt fall in the categoryās they are ordering the Drs to follow. My Dr and I speak regularly about how the government is not letting (good) Drs treat patients accordingly , but treating everyone as junkies. Thatās scary too. Yes we as a country have a drug epidemic, BUT not everyone who takes pain meds IS a problem! I voluntarily stop by the Dr office for a med count and I offer to take a urine test.. Just so my Dr can show them he is treating the pain (with success) not just handing out meds!
Sorry for the LONG rant, Its just such a scary time for patients who have legitimate pain & need pain management!
Sorry, I ment to reply to Just Jenn… I believe I may have replied to the wrong person..If so I apologize!
* commenting from my phone isnāt as easy as the tablet
Nancy, I donāt have children, but I cannot even IMAGINE what it would be like to lose a child. After using for years, I am very grateful that my mother did not have to go through what you are going through (I wish I were wrong that the pain never goes away). This post, and every post, about addiction makes me feel sad for everyone involved. I wouldnāt wish it on anyone, EVER, not even Phaedra. My mom died 8 years ago today; I will be thinking of her and you today with the best thoughts for two strong mothers who dealt with addicted children. ā¤ļø
My husband had an opiate addiction & hung himself. I work in a hospital & see such large opiates of pain killers being prescribed itās unreal. To be honest my kids need their wisdom removed & Iām afraid to schedule it because of the need for post op painkillers & addiction on both sides. They need to stop the drug companies from giving Drās kickbacks when they prescribe their stuff. Iāve seen docs prescribe 120 for 4 days so they werenāt bothered over the weekend. Scary stuff.
I’m so very sorry Maureen! I can’t even imagine how difficult it’s been for you. I’m in recovery for many years. If you feel comfortable you might explain your concerns to the doctor. Usually they don’t prescribe very much for wisdom teeth. It’s only enough for a day or two and many people are ok using over the counter drugs like Advil.
I’ll always worry about my son (14) so I understand your concerns about your kids. The best thing we can do is keep a very open, honest dialogue with them so they feel comfortable coming to us without fear of judgement. I work really hard on that.
Thankyou. I wish you & your son all the best. We talk about it a lot. It happened almost 14 yrs ago.
I had my wisdom teeth pulled and requested Tylenol 3. I had a very bad experience with Vicodin in the past, which is what they wanted to prescribe to me and I said no. After the Tylenol 3 ran out, I just used over the counter Extra Strength Tylenol and it was all good. There’s a mild dull pain after the surgery but with some rest and OTC meds, it should be manageable without super pain killers and they should be back to their normal selves after a day or two. I’m so sorry to hear about your husband.
Thankyou. I had a lot of dental work done over the years. If the dentist didnāt use a drill I was ok with Advil but if a drill was involved I needed something stronger. I know this a blog & but I feel a lot of support from everyone. Thankyou
I too am on a Suboxone treatment plan at is has saved my life. I fell into a codeine addiction treating pain I didnāt realise would turn out to be Multiple Scelrosis. I have never had any intention of coming in here and complaining about my health in a TT thread, I just wanted to let you know your bravery inspired me to be honest too.
We do more than drag the stars of our guilty pleasure shows! Lol. We support one another too. š
Given the title Iām assuming itās LaLa as she was in a moved called āThe Rowā.
*movie
I think you’re right on. Plus looks like a family of four in the boat and R.E. has 2 kids if I remember correctly.
I thought Lala but I didnāt catch the Row. Sadly, I think you are right.
Thank you!! I was totally not getting what the clue in the title was.
I never get these. Damn you, Tamara!
It has to be Lala. She was so beautiful but in these recent pics of her she looks pretty bad. I thought it was plastic surgery, but maybe it is something else. I hope she recovers because I always thought she was stunning with such a free spirit.
Could it be cold feet keeping her up and looking pale? Depression making her slovenly? Whereās the drug connection besides her appearance?
Anyhoo, if itās little LaLa, āDaddyā is doing a bad parenting job.
And I donāt blame James for being upset that LaLa is selling her youth and future to some fat old producer with two kids, especially if she is doing drugs with āDaddy.ā James is just way too crass in his approach. And I think he still loves LaLa.
suboxone is more addicting than heroin. don’t fool yourself.
Squirellmistress, you are spot on with that assessment! Iām addicted to Suboxone, NOW!
I agree with you. And it scares me that drug companies can control the pricing (remember the epi pens) after they get you dependent. HOWEVER, the physical addition is the smallest part of addiction. Having access to a legal substance can help break the other parts of addiction ā the lifestyle, the highs and lows, the terror of not having your āmeds,ā etc. And you donāt experience the euphoria of opioids with suboxine so you can break that part too.
Yes, but you won’t die
She said in the last episode she is off Alcohol, so maybe she is on to something else now. Sad.
Wow š
Sounds like Lala to me. I like her & feel bad to hear this. I hope she gets help.
My guess is Lala. If so, itās too bad since she talks about her days being sober. I wish her the best.
In the past, Psychiatrists that I worked with would not prescribe Suboxone and it was not on the Formulary for Medi-Cal patients even though these MD’s treated dual diagnosis patients. These patients would often ask for it to be prescribed during my assessments. I would have to refer these patients to private MD’s who would prescribe and monitor as private pay clients. You would think that So. Orange County would be treating chemical dependency as needed but like everything else, this area prefers private pay clients for more extensive treatment. It’s a shame really because we have the highest rate of overdoses leading to death than anywhere in the state. This is happening because we are a distribution area for drug cartels coming in from Mexico.
My pain doc says VA and other clinics are switching over to Suboxine. He says it is harder to quit than oxy and methadone. In the Bay Area, my Kaiser primary wanted me off everything ā CHRONIC PAIN ā the pain educators wanted us on pain meds WITH MONITORING. Kaiser did not have Subs because it is expensive. At the county clinic, they were all pushing Suboxine. I was fortunate that my pain doc in Sac tried out Ultram because it WORKS on me. He really does not want people on Suboxine.
We all thought Lala, but now that I’ve watched the Girls’ Night In episode of VPR, Brittany seems a little off the rails there. Hyper. Emotional. And a little thinner. Lala is hard to tell with the changes to her hair and makeup.
This post got really dark and descriptive for who had it worse……wish you all the best. I would not be surprise this is Lala. She seems like she would so just about anything to fit into the hollywood dream she has.
It wasnāt a contest for who had it worse. Just trying to offer support & comfort in that their not alone. That was an asshole thing to say
Has to be LaLa. Supposedly she showed up at Nastarianaās party the way she did because she was depressed. And she seems a lot different this season. Also, I think the boat clue refers to Randallās boat.
I really hope sheās okay. I struggle with extreme depression, and itās truly frightening.
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