Yesterday we talked about Thomas Ravenel’s newest court filings that could best be described as “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.”
Today The Blast has video footage of the accident. Click the link to go look at the video so we can talk about it here.
I mean what the actual fuck? How does one even do that? She has space on either side! And what is up with that slow walk to the car and then just standing there for a bit before getting in?
I have been given a few bits of exclusive information lately about Kathryn that I chose not to make public despite the source being highly credible. I felt as though their observations may have been misperceptions.
I am now officially concerned about what is going on with BOTH parents. Thomas claims that not stopping to give information to the car’s owner shows a gross lack of integrity and character and shows that she can’t be a good moral example and role model. How the heck did Thomas even know there was a car accident in the first place? And where is this place she is coming out of? The Blast claims it is a house she is renting but I don’t believe that.
I’m more concerned about her ability to drive a car and if there was some sort of impairment involved.
Thoughts?
UPDATED: It should come as no surprise that the video was provided by Thomas to the SITE THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED. They are ever at the ready to take a pay off or a video to cause problems for their enemies or their clients enemies.
And in the full length version she was clearly on the phone when she go into the car. It is clearly surveillance footage from a security cam.
That said, the lengths you people go to to “explain away” the situation is bizarre. Perhaps it is because I have more information that I declined to post that I feel this way. I did the exact same thing when I started getting certain reports. So I guess I get it. But this is quite distressing information.
crap
Shit.
She has goons watching her constantly. Not quite sure whose payroll they’re on, but I’ve got a good idea. Hello , the hatred is so strong these people would stalk for free!!
Yeah, it’s not okay to hit another vehicle and not even attempt to take a pic and leave a note acknowledging what you did. Not smart at all.
That could be her house however. She shared on one of her insta stories the outside of her new place. It matches the salmon colored exterior on the tape.
I did this in Hs once but the car was much closer than that. i left the car I hit and the cops tracked me down and i got a $100 ticket and had to pay the lady $200 to get her car fixed but it didn’t register as an “accident” bc the damage was less than $500. I never even went to trial or anything. Just a really dumb $300 mistake. Also, I think she was on the phone.
is there video of the other side? i only ask because she could have easily reversed and hopped out once she was clear to leave a note.
i’ve been doing Discovery (stenographer) for 20 years; nothing is what it seems. i’ve seen one side come in with an ‘air-tight’ alibi ONLY to have the Defense pop out something they uncovered that unravels the case.
having written that, thomas is a DIK. 🙂
Yeah, you’re right. She’s out of view, the tape stops. What happened afterwards? She may know the person and called the person. She may have backed up, written a note and left her number. Yeah, she hit a car, that’s what we see. Not what did or didn’t happen afterward. When there’s such an obvious smear campaign going on against someone, it’s hard to believe all of this “proof.” Give it a rest, Thomas. You no longer control her. Sorry, move along. You’ve got your booby prize, that’ll do ya for awhile.
What happened was: she hit a car and then drove away. It’s that simple.
Suppose Katherine knows the owner of the car, and has the owners phone number.
Suppose the owner is a guest at her home?
Twenty somethings text, not call. They text In all situations, even fender benders.
TT says KD was on her phone as she got into the car.
iPhones have cameras.
Suppose Katherine snapped a pic of damages for insurance and to text owner the damage?
Our proof of insurance is an emailed card. Suppose Katherine texted her info?
Just playing devils advocate, my 27 year old son would use text in this situation if possible. Anything to
prevent an actual conversation.
And, to be honest, the cars were parked on private property,
KD did not sideswipe another driver doing 50 mph on a busy street.
In FL, these accidents are handled by drivers, no police reports are filed.
“anything to prevent a conversation”. I’ve labeled that “isolation by technology” years ago and people thought I was nuts saying that. Now look what has happened!
Total set up.
How the hell do you set someone up to have a one car accident in a parking lot with literally no cars even close to her.
I get all the Kathryn love, but she is not a perfect person who never does anything wrong.
I don’t think she’s a perfect person. She’s not my queen. Based on behavior I’ve witnessed on SM and the show, she’s kind of an angel compared to T and and his full-on hate crew. However, I’m not naive. I hope all the bullshit and games stop for the sake of the kids. What if the judge takes the kids away from both of them? Some game; potential devastating outcome.
That’s what I’m afraid of, both of them losing custody. The kids have bonded to their parents – good or bad. Looks like apartment complex where cameras are installed. She would hit a BMW. My daughter did doing minor damage like this car and it cost $2K to repair.
Not saying she was right. This certainly was stupid, immature and irresponsible. This video doesn’t tell the whole story me-thinks.
I’ve been concerned about her behavior lately on her instastories. She seems out of it. And not drug out of it. Like mentally. She seems bipolar to me and in a manic episode. She’s still better then Thomas but i worry the kids full time may be too much for her. That crash didn’t help.
I thought she might be on her phone. I do that all the time— kinda stop and text before I get in the car. I usually put my phone down though… maybe she didn’t because of all the space? Just a thought.
TT, I support KD in her struggle with Thomas but I certainly do not blindly accept the KD is an angel theory. I’ve had doubts. Hard to maintain sobriety surrounded by a group of hard partying castmates in vacation destinations like the Caribbean. KD is still very young but she has grown up quite a bit since we first saw her on the show. I don’t doubt KD partied hard with Thomas. However, was she really as bad as Thomas says?
Unfortunately a relapse might have occured. I hope for her sake & the children this is not the case.
Did you see my Chris Paciello update? I lobster track of wgyere I left it. (Sorry T)
No! What is going on with him!?
He left witness protection in 2009 and has a club somewhere in Florida again. Still not killed by anyone he snitched on. Vanity Fair did a show on him recently.
This looks bad…
But maybe- if it was a place she was renting- she knows the owner of the other vehicle personally and was able to call or text them?
I know ya’ll are gonna laugh at me, but I can’t back up worth a damn either. I have hit other vehicles I should have missed, not because I was impaired, but I suck at backing up. She should have left a note, however, but the damage is minor and might even be able to be buffed out. Ravanel is reaching.
I do also, I can’t tell you how many times I have hit our shrubs or the garbage cans while backing up my driveway. I can parallel park like a pro but can’t back up my driveway. True story.
Me, too.
Yes, it. is not a good thing when you hit someone’s vehicle and leave. She panicked.
Morally she still outshines Thomas physically attacking women and getting away with it. There is a great need for therapy for this group. You never know how you would react in situations when you feel desperate.
Thomas is probably psyching her out whenever there is an opening. He is smart and has the funds to dig into her very being.
I’m just wondering how one pulls off a move like that when you know she must have had both A. a back-up camera and B. the parking/proximity sensors beeping into oblivion in that Jeep thing.
Just…wow.
I would say he has a PI on her 24/7 as he has done in the past. Also, because the tape ends there we do not know what happened next – ie did she park up and go back, did she know the owner to contact direct?…
I have to say I have also, when pre-occupied or tired (and definitely NOT substance impaired), backed into something that should have been obvious. I even have a friend who is a leading driver trainer and crash investigator who backed into a bollard one night after a long flight. It happens.
I am also sometimes slow to get to and into the car and out, while I run a check in my mind of if I have everything, etc.
If you are not well for any reason it is fairly easy to look and act as if impaired by substances. Then again, perhaps for some reason she had taken something that on that day did cause impairment.
I just don’t think this video has enough information in it to be conclusive of anything. More info may come to light.
Meantime, Thomas has impairment issues we all know about.
I think they both should have blood tests from time to time and ordered up by a person with no prejudice towards either.
I don’t think she’s impaired, she didn’t seem impaired when she got in her car or whe. She straightens up and backs up correctly.
Honestly? She’s probably on her phone and not paying attention backing up because it’s a parking lot and it’s habit especially if it’s where she lives.
As to not leaving a note, if it is where she lives maybe she knows whose car it is? And when she backs out of frame maybe she gets out then?
And as it is on private property and not a street I’m not sure it’s criminal hit and run even if she did leave.
The statistics for texting/cell phone use and driving are astonishing and scary. Especially for her age group. I looked it up because my 30 yr old son has totaled 2 cars, wrecked one more, (a rental), all due to texting while driving. Smdh. It’s just stupid and so preventable.
Have you ever been at busy intersection, rush hour traffic, at a stop light and looked around at all the drivers on their phones? I would venture to guess she was looking at her phone while attempting to back up. She had plenty room on both sides. I feel bad for her anyway.
Texting while driving is a freaking epidemic. It’s as bad as drunk driving. I have pretty major spinal issues and I met a woman in my neurosurgeon’s waiting room with her children who was there because she had been hit twice by people texting and driving. It’s ridiculous and people need to put down their phones and pay attention to the road.
I agree 100% it’s insane and just as dangerous as drinking and driving. People need to put their phones away.
And I didn’t say she was on her phone to justify or okay her actions, because it’s not okay to get in a 2,000lbs hunk of metal and not pay attention.
I just meant in terms with her substance abuse issues she didn’t look impaired to me.
Agree with you Laura. A lot of ifs and alternative explanations.
The video I watched was 10 minutes long. First of all she was talking on her phone. Second, do we know that she took off once she was out of frame or could she have stopped and given her info to someone? I have my concerns about her but this video doesn’t prove anything to me.
Good Grief, Katherine! Don’t leave opportunities for that evil man to cause you trouble.
Goss, someone did this to my son at his work place. He had security look, but was told it was on private party, not a lot could be done. If we are honest with ourselves, many of us have done this. Maybe she knew the person and went over to talk in person. Not the coolest thing, but sounds like Thomas and Trashley are trying to grab onto anything and everything and hopes something sticks.
Leaving the scene of an accident is against the law regardless of who owns the property where the accident occurs. Many of us have NOT done this.
I thought the police wouldn’t even do anything if it’s in a private parking lot.
They won’t, they won’t respond to private property especially if the damage is under $1,000.
Wendy Williams told a story about a minor fender bender in a grocery store parking lot. She went home without leaving a note. The cops showed up to her house an hour later.Someone took down her license plate. I don’t know where y’all get the idea that private property is some sort of safe haven for playing bumper cars.
True story. Former police officer here. Damage to someones property is a crime whether it is on private property or not. Whether the police will cite for a private property car wreck is a different issue and depends on the policy of the department, some will cite , some will not. But, a hit and run is still a hit and run regardless. Astounded that some would say that we all have probably done that. If your vehicle was the one hit, would you feel the same?
Thank you samson for being the voice of reason and for your service to the community.
Wow, that’s awesome for her community, I couldn’t get the police to come out to an accident where a truck it me by coming into my lane three weeks ago in Houston Texas.
They told me as long as he has a license and insurance and the cars are not in the road and the damage is under $2,000 they don’t respond.
I was told this by a 911 operator, so lots of PD’s are moving away from accidents that are i Insurance problems. They just don’t have the man power.
By the way, it has been a HUGE headache without a police report, by only saving grace is my dash cam. This was also my first accident ever, never again will I be so passive, no I will claim to be hurt or something to get an officer to respond.
Typo with the word gross! Not saying it is right, but to try to say it makes her a bad person is silly! She may have looked quickly and did not see any damage. On a weekly basis I see people go through red lights, roll through stop signs and so on. I know it is not cool, as I said my son went through, just feel Thomas and friends are grabbing at anything. How did Thomas get the tape? Did he have a PI or friends with the person who owns the property or how? If it was the owner of the property, why did they not go directly to the vehicle or KD?
I have NEVER ‘done this’. What an ignorant statement.
Maybe if it is her rental she knew the person she hit and let them know? Idk I’m prob wrong, but I’m rooting for the girl.
I thought maybe she was on her phone, distracted, not paying attention and hit the other vehicle, but why she didn’t stop is bizarre. Also, I was wondering the same thing…How did Thomas know she hit anyone? How did he acquire the video?
I feel for those children. I’ve never thought Katherine was an angel, but I did think she was young and impressionable when she was with Thomas. I’m sure she was drawn to the persona he tries to reflect…wealthy, knows who’s who in Charleston. He probably had her believing he was going to succeed in political circles again. I was so glad she got away from him, and appeared to clean her life up. I felt like she knew she HAD to get her act together. Thomas thinks he is above everyone, everything…women are beneath him….he can treat anyone however he pleases, he can drink & drug & he’s Mr Powerful above anyone telling him he can’t have his way.
I hate that this happened w/her hitting a vehicle. I hate that he got the tape. I was really pulling for her. I thought she was the children’s best chance of living w/a loving parent.
I was in auto insurance for 25 years (auto claims). The person probably came out and saw the damage to their car. Complained to the property owner, they pulled the tapes, saw Katherine’s license plate and reported it to the police. It is on private property but I’d it was a hit and run, they would’ve run the plates and called her insurance company and her insurance pansy would’ve called Thomas/Katherine or henwould’ve Found out when his rates increased….OR if Katherine left a note, It would’ve been reported to the insurance company and they would’ve taken a statement from Katherine and if Thomas is paying the premiums, he would’ve found out when his rates increased.
It doesn’t mean that she’s a bad person. Accidents happen unless there was something else going on there. That video was very odd, IMO. Most newer cars these days have backup sensors and at the AVERY LEAST, you’d feel that bump.
LOL at Thomas paying for her insurance. He doesn’t give her a dime. Until recently SHE WAS PAYING HIM $100 a month in child support.
Been reading about TRav & his crazy court docs. Everyone is missing the point that TRav is out to destroy KD. Seen this in custody cases before, with men like TRav who project their own distructive behavior on the ex who has the kids. We all saw how TRav & KD evolved & he’s the master manipulator. Once KD was free of TRav & clean & sober, she has legit reasons to fear for her sobriety & the welfare of her kids. TRav is a millionaire & has lawyer’s skills to write these affidavits. (Personal note- a friend of mine caught her husband serial cheating & tried to divorce him & take the two minor children. This man went to law school but too stupid to pass bar- but wrote his own affidavits in custody battle. They read like TRav’s. My friend was gaslighted by her narcissistic sociopathic husband projecting HIS behavior onto her. Long story short she tried to take her life after the nonstop accusations by her husband. She survived but lost custody b/c of that. 2 yrs later proved her husband had manipulated the courts & almost drove her crazy. A new lawyer had the proof & in the end she got custody & her ex was proven a pathological liar & a con. She has the kids now but damage was done.)
TRav tried gaslighting SC cast that KD was the problem & the crazy bitch, but in reality he was the one. We all saw the proof last year & the lengths TRav will go to make KD look like the crazy & he is the victim. No excuse for hitting a car but we don’t know what happened next. And it really freaks me out that TRav had the video. All HIS court docs show up online but not KD’s? Who is feeding the media all these stories on KD? I don’t know the history of certain blogs being fed by certain realityTV stars but TRav seems to have the system rigged. Remember KD was paying HIM $100 a month in support.
This Ashely trainwreck last season was directed & paid for by TRav. But she’s not his latest victim, she’s part of the TRav manipulation. He found a great side piece to try & derail KD & get his kids. One last note – men like TRav use their kids to HURT the women who have held a mirror up to their narcissistic pathological behavior. There is no fatherly love there. These poor kids are just another means to go after their mother. TRav wanted a namesake but not the responsibility that goes along with raising kids. We’ve all seen how he parents. What kind of parent puts their kids in another house, behind the big house, because they’re worried about the kids getting the furniture dirty? Didn’t anyone else find THAT disturbing? TRav left those kids in another house w a nanny & lived HIS life while visiting them for filming… that blew my mind.
I’m done.
I have to agree with the other posters- I’ve accidentally hit cars while backing up, most recently coming out of a crazy liquor store parking lot over the holidays 😳 (I’m just not a great driver, but hopefully doesn’t reflect on my parenting :-)). Maybe it’s because I live in an urban area, but I’ve had my car hit by neighbors a couple of times with a lot more damage than that and no note left. A**hole move for sure, but never made me think they had a substance abuse problem or were bad parents. That’s a real stretch. Agree it’s also possible she did leave a note or contacted the driver- we can’t see the entire frame.
Wow, you are a super asshole. You really should be so cavilear about this… you realize you’re committing a crime and also what you’re doing is just plain wrong, correct?! I hope you never run across my car.
I mean…. i tend to agree but I would not let Kathryn drive my dog after seeing this. IJS>
Good grief, so sorry for my typos
Oh honey, if ever there was a site where typos are fine, it’s here. Have you read my posts? 🙂
I appreciate that, TT. I had spellcheck on and everything but was so into my thought….GAH!
Welcome to my world. 🙂 You are more likely to catch my wrath by bitching about other people’s typos than to have your own. WE EMBRACE THE TYPOS HERE!
The road to sobriety is very, very rarely a smooth one. You fall down, you pick yourself up over and over again. I cannot imagine getting sober with a vindictive ex, Private Investigators and millions of viewers around the world watching every action in my life.
Putting Kathryn on a pedestal as a Santa Maria is more pressure than she needs right now. She has to see she is slipping and self-correct. She has done it before and she can do it again.
As to the driving, I have been a liability assessor in the motor insurance industry for many years and nothing shocks me. There are many, many explanations for this footage and it cuts off at a suspicious point despite appearing to be CCTV which would have continued recording regardless.
There are people who have parking accidents 3, 4 even 5 or more times a year and they think nothing of it. They think it is normal or they have bad luck. A lot of people panic and leave, then do the right thing later. Around 10% of people simply drive directly to the police station, afraid to confront the owner in person. I need more information and there are crazier drivers than this who unfortunately have custody of their kids.
The day we moved into our new house, I backed my Infiniti straight into the bricked in mailbox. Yes it should’ve beeped but the hill and angle and speed didn’t seem to set off the sensors. I was so concentrating on not hitting the u haul and the movers who were parked horribly that I wasn’t thinking about a mailbox and in the time it took me to check the camera screen, I’d hit it. It’s also on the opposite side of my old mailbox so my brain had moved onto other things I guess. I had plenty of room to not hit it but I smashed it good. No impairment, just tons of moving anxiety regarding finances, school changes, etc. I’m sure I was on my phone walking to my car since I was headed to my parents house for a shower and to pick up my youngest. I’m sure I looked impaired or very stupid at the least. Shit happens. This may or may not be anything. My car has also been backed into at Target. It was night and I didn’t notice until I was in my garage. No one left a note. No clue who did it. Just another bill to pay.
Eh, not good but not sure if I would leave a note. If I rode past and saw virtually no damage I’d move on.
i’m thinking she had something in her hand walking up to the car. she paused to maybe dial a call?
then she backed into a vehicle in what does appear to me to be a rather narrow space (look at how close the camera mounting is to her car as she passes).
how do we know she didn’t send a text –“hi neighbor, so sorry but i just hit your car! am late for work, but will see you when i get home tonight. SORRY girl, i’m a clumsy b***h!!”.
and then she mentioned it to TR later, not thinking that he would actually dig up the footage to use against her.
*slightly chagrined to have spent that much time thinking about this*
Wow. She could have been impaired or on the phone. People who talk and text while on the phone are the absolute worst! I put my phone in my purse while driving so I can’t even be tempted to look at it. She was acting kinda weird before getting in the car, though.
While driving lol
Clearly something is up w Katherine in this video. Nobody drives like that normally, let alone drive off. I don’t even have to explain cause it’s all on video.
Lawd have mercy!!!!! Thomas is really reaching now. He’ll claim any and everything he can to slow the judicial system down. He’s extremely knowledgeable when it comes to that. This is not at all what it seems. KD knows the lengths TR will go to cast her in a bad light and AJ is right there by his side. KD knows what she’s working with and what she’s up against. Damn, I can’t stand TR and his non-MFing factor azz!!! Karma is a bioch and she keeps receipts! 🙂
I totalled 3 cars between 19 and 26. Twice my fault. Cell phones were in the distant future. No drugs or drinking, just not paying attention and being a bad driver. I don’t know her so who am I to have an opinion? Would I have left the scene in an accident that was my fault if I could? Maybe 😊
ugggh – come what may!
the video takes us to a point – how the HELL do we know if she shut down her vehicle and called the police?
come on! this video is from October 2018 and I still stand behind Kathryn, do you actually believe that ANYONE would actually let Kathrine skate on a HIT AND RUN/?
come on!
Good point, October, 2018? I’m going to assume this is long since resolved no matter what we see and or didn’t see.
Still a bummer though. I only want to see Katherine on her game.
I looked at the Charleston County courthouse site and I found only one charge against Kathryn and it was many, many years ago. Thomas’s listing on the other hand……..
Stone cold sober, I backed into my friends car last summer. It was a sunny day, I saw her car off to the side, we got in gabbing and boom! I had to tell my insurance agent that she has an idiot for a client.
I think it is right to be concerned about Katherine. I didn’t want to say anything before, but did anyone see the late night/early morning videos she posted on Christmas while the kids were in bed? She was certainly under the influence of something when she was speaking. I have rooted for her for a long time but I also think she is likely drinking and mixing meds. Hope she can get it together – she really still is young.
I read this last night and woke up with the same uneasy feeling I have when I’m worried about one of my kids. Praying for the best!
Maybe people aren’t familiar with Charleston and the city spaces. That is very likely a old home divided up into apartments, or also looks like it could be on Ion which has terrible parking like that. As for “a ton of room on both sides”….if you pay attention the where the camera is located, there are flowers billowing in the wind right next to it, like they are smooshed next to it. That would indicate there is a wall or another home there. A lot of buildings, especially downtown have these very narrow alleys that lead into parking spots, or similarly have way too many spots in one lot bc they’ve squeezed so many apartments into an old historic home downtown. They can be tricky under normal circumstances to eat out of, and I’d guess being on your cell phone doesn’t help. Distracted driving isn’t good….
She literally turned the care horizontally in the space before backing up HARD into the other vehicle.
Oh, I’m not disagreeing that it was idiotic. I’m just saying I can tell the type of parking lot it is, and I agree that it seems like she’s on the phone. I think it’s a simple case of using a phone while driving which never ends well. I don’t think she was impaired. That said, sometimes her social media stories do appear concerning. I just hope the best for her and the kids. As a Mom who lives downtown here, my heart breaks for the kids and everything they will have to learn about and the stigma of it all once they get older. I’m always rooting for her to do great things. I had kids around the same age….and maybe shared a hairdresser 😳 hehe……and it really is hard to be that young and adjust to it all. I can’t even imagine adding the public eye and a drug fueled manchild to the mix.
Thomas is a desperate man. He’s worried about this effecting the kids character?? Because he CANT PROVE anything else!! That’s her new place she just polled on IG asking her followers if they want a tour. It’s not a traffic accident since it’s a parking lot. Hopefully she knew them and handled it appropriately. Her recent IG story WAS CONCERNING. It’s clear Thomas is out for blood. I just want her to go to meetings and get and/or stay healthy. She out of her league in fighting with Thomas.
I agree . And a fender bender even if it was a hit and run does not warrant losing any parental rights . Thomas sucks and Kathryn is better than she was , and they both are light years better than the broken and corrupt foster system in America . Trust me as a nurse I have seen the state come in and try to do everything before resorting to placing a kid in foster care .
Also I still think Kathryn is the better choice for full custody . Thomas is crazy .
If she tried to leave without owning up, it was really tacky. If she didn’t fess up because she was afraid she’d be drug tested, even worse. That all said, I can’t believe family court would give a hoot. My son’s ex (we called her ‘plainiff’) did stuff that would curl your hair if I told you. The courts don’t care about her moral character if she isn’t with the kids when it happened. I don’t think the court should have ever given Thomas full rein to make her drug test as often as he did. But I do think the BOTH of them should have been drug tested randomly, and probably still should.
I will reserve my opinion until we hear Kathryn’s story. She may very well know the person who owns the other car. And I am not excusing Kathryn’s behavior if she did indeed hit this person’s car and then didn’t bother to contact them, but our vehicles our dinged and scratched to high heaven from other people not being able to negotiate in a parking lot. And I’m sure there are some very “upstanding” citizens who have been guilty of damaging our vehicles and then just driving away. Is that okay? No. It’s not. Is it illegal? Yes. Does it rise to the level of criminality that compares with…oh, let’s say distribution of cocaine or multiple sexual battery charges? No. It does not.
My worries are still for the children and I still feel that Kathryn and her family are better for the children than the Ravenel’s.
This has gotten to be a sad, sick story – from the beginning w no end in sight!! Just a lot of heartbreak all around!! He definitely has PI on her 24/7!! He is a bad bad guy!!
I wish only the best for Kathryn, as troubling as that video is. But TRav I loathe. It’s hard to describe the depth of my disdain and hatred I have for his complete lack of character and basic human decency. Rarely does one have the evidence of a complete unraveling unfold before your eyes, yet that’s just what he exposed over the SC seasons. He’s one for the record books.
Thanks Lorelli for clearing up that Kathryn did immediately contact her neighbour and sort this out. I am so sad that some people immediately assumed from an inconclusive short video that she just did a drive off. It also sickens me that a man who is evil through and through is so invested in destroying a past partner.
Hum, for some reason I’m not seeing my posting? I did refer to another source although not by name. I need to recheck the commenting rules. Anyway, I’ll always be cheering Kathryn on 100%. I feel like Trav just gaslighted us all.
I saw the same info, Lorelli. Looks like this is all on Trav and Kathryn handled the accident appropriately.
You definitely need to reread the commenting rules. Discuss information you see on other sites ON THOSE SITES.
Sorry, T- wasn’t sure where the line was 🙂
Hi Lorelli, I can’t now see it either. I thought if you had transgressed TT would have put it up, perhaps with bits blacked out, and admonished you. Don’t really understand what, if anything, you did wrong as no other site actually mentioned.
I also think Thomas is playing with all our minds, hopes and fears and we need to stay firmly in the territory of proven fact for both parents. I hope evidence is produced in court for all his claims, and if not that his claims about Kathryn are thrown out.
All I can see for sure at the moment is that for some reason she backed into another car at slow speed. I can’t know what happened next.
She is young and up against an evil man on a long term basis. She needs tons of support. It must be a devastating way to try to live her life. Thomas is like a cancer she must fight forever, and it is not fair. It must be colossal pressure every day of her life.
I cannot find the post you describe. I would like to see a statement by that car’s owner. That MIGHT clear up the accountability factor.
On some days, I cannot turn my head very well so I have to visually asses the situation and I drive VERY SLOWLY, so if I hit someone it would do no damage. It is EASY to fuck up when you are not focusing, especially when there are legal issues going on.
What concerns me most is that TRav will try to turn this into a “reckless driver” situation. Even if the legal aspect is solved, he will trump it up into whatever he can to disparage her parenting skills.
Even Thomas can’t amp up a slow speed bump in a parking area into something serious and reckless out on the road, thank goodness.
He is basically 100% gaslighting with this one IF Kathryn did follow up. And without evidence from the other car owner we can’t assume it was a drive-off. Surely TT would post if she had proof Kathryn did not contact the other car owner. And although that would not be nice, it happens. The other car could have looked OK as she backed past the second time. Especially being black.
Sometimes it takes a while to do follow up. I borrowed my dad’s white car to go to a play at the university when I was a student. I came out to find it dented badly. My dad did not believe I knew nothing about it. But several days later he got a message from the person, via her employer. She had been working cleaning on-site and the procedure was to go through the employer with any incidents. She could so easily have driven away. She reported it at work the next night. Phew!! I was one lucky girl.
Sorry TT I thought I was ok in posting what I did. I was anxious to share some information with like minded friends who are concerned like I am. Hopefully all the true information is available shortly for everyone to see.
In my opinion, something has definitely been going on with Kathryn, and I am saying this as one of her supporter. We all love a come back, but was it too good to be true? Being an enemy of Thomas can’t be easy, and she really needs to watch every move she makes since he’s always lurking to destroy her. I just hope Their situation in court doesn’t backfire on the both of them, and these poor babies end up with a relative.
The rule is . . always do the right thing! Even when it’s hard!
It is truly beyond logic how someone can drive into a car like that with SO much space available on all sides. Good grief! Something is not right with this chick. I have no clue why people think she walks on water, but to me, she is still a hot mess. And a boring one at that. Most overrated person on Bravo, in my opinion. If she is hitting parked cars with that much space, I really worry about how she drives with moving cars and her kids in the car.
that was no set up, she is a crappy driver and should have gotten out of her car like most other level minded people, the fact that she did not and completely left the scene shows a lack of responsibility and poor judgement, I am not out to bash Katherine, but some common sense would have been a good choice. Also the fact that she was wearing glittery purple leggings with what looked like white heels is a complete fashion crime.
T T, are you going to investigate this further and tell us who shot the footage and if Kathryn did follow-up with the person whose car she backed into?
I am very uneasy about the fact a short video, that I am sure Thomas had a hand in obtaining and publicising, has been used to damn Kathryn for doing a hit and run. I don’t feel it is right to make assumptions here.
A “hit” is understandable, and could have happened for many reasons, including being spooked by surveillance. A “run” is simply not proven by this video, as it stops so abruptly.
It seems clear that people are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of what their eyes tell them. When you have an accident, you immediately get out and look at the damage. You do not pull up and continue backing out the driveway. If you were going to stop, you pull back into your parking space.
I am not saying I believe anything, and I agree you have outlined the gold standard way to behave in the circumstances of a hit. It is what I would do myself. But I am older and co stantly on the lookout for early onset Alzheimer’s (LOL I am serious!)
I just feel I currently do not have any hard evidence of what happened AFTER the video is cut off.
I also think young people rely almost totally on their phones and would be unlikely to leave a note if they knew the owner of the other car.
I think to a young person a hit would be a hit and no need to examine the other car before reporting it. in backing past the second time she would have been able to see their was little damage to the other car. From the angle, I would think her car took most of the impact and damage.
I am also very, very suspicious any time Thomas is involved in disclosing information about KD. Why has this come to the media now? Sorry, I have gone from admiring Thomas’s charm in Season 1 to not trusting him an inch!!
It’s coming out now because Thomas released the video to his favorite website in order to discredit Kathryn. The video shows a Kathryn backing out of a parking spot with an empty parking space on both sides and still managing to hit another vehicle. It is credible evidence that for whatever reason, Kathryn’s driving my jeopardize the safety of her children.
Not surprised at all. But it is a manoeuvring error at low speed in a car park, and she did not have the children with her.
If every woman who ever achieved this in an isolated incident was deemed an unsafe mother, then fathers would be picking up a lot of childcare!!
It is just one incident, like his DUI offence was, on open road, in traffic, at road driving speed. Courts did not seem to think that made him unsafe to have the children.
I think the greater suggestion is that she is dishonest and did not report the hit. That is his real intention in my view. And I hope the truth about that comes out too soon. But, in the meantime, he has flung mud that will stick in some people’s minds, regardless. Not nice!
I feel if he was on sure ground with this he would have saved the accusation for the custody case – with an affidavit from the other car owner that Kathryn failed to report the hit.
Um that is exactly what he is doing. I love Kathryn but that was a very fucked up accident. I don;t care if she was stone cold sober I would not put my kids in the car with her.
Oh I know it looks that way, but noone stood to be injured by that crash at such low speed, and no other moving traffic. And sometimes if the car is at an angle to a hazard the warning device will not operate.
For some of my later years of work I was in a high level team advising government private sector others on road safety. I have seen it all.
In what is now 55 years of driving, noone has been injured, let alone killed, riding with me. Yet I have driven on a number of very dangerous, poor condition, isolated routes, and in heavy city traffic, as well as locally. And over the years I have caused several low speed hits to myself plus been the only one NOT hitting the car in front – in a exressway pile-up that demolished my car. Today I take out my vulnerable grandchildren as passengers and their parents are unworried by that.
Imagine my surprise when one morning, stone cold sober, I arrived in the city to park and work for the day and found myself crashing in my parking building. I was about to pull into my park when some young people, parked next to it, suddenly reversed at speed towards me. I backed up to avoid being hit and got my car sitting balanced on the raised concrete edge of the ramp between floors, that I had just come down.
That meant I had closed off access to the building’s parks, and I faced a very angry attendant, almost dancing with rage. I called my car club for help and a lovely chap arrived as a crowd gathered to watch.
People were taking video footage, I expected to go on-line, and there were many faces at the windows of adjacent high rise buildings. The Club chap pulled a plank from his vehicle, made it into a ramp, and then drove my car back off the edge, from where it had sat balanced. Then in front of the crowd, which he ignored, he asked quietly: “Where would you like it parked Ma’am”?
I hardly liked to enter the office, but not even the younger chaps tried to tease me. They were great! All of us, through our research and experience knew it can happen to anyone. Just not more than once or twice., for sure.
I think Kathryn has been driving those children around for some time without any incident with them in the car. I really do not believe a oncer slight hit in a parking area, that does not even disable a vehicle, can be construed as dangerous driving. But who knows what the judge will think.
t sounds like you may be saying you have heard of a relapse. I could see this being the case in this video only because she has so much space on each side and just goes straight back toward parked vechile which is clearly in parking lanes. That said nothing else in this video says impaired. I clearly saw her adjusting her jacket/ moving her hand up and down in front so it looked to me like she was unbuttoning the jacket before she got in to sit down. I am assuming this by the actions of how her arm moved and can’t see buttons, but watch and see if it makes sense. She didn’t stumble or do anything else suspsiocous so I sure hope it’s just a dumb car mishap. I just totaled my own car with my kids in it. I looked over my shoulder for literally one second to lane change and then couldn’t stop in time when I looked back car was stopped and i slammed brakes and swerved but it was no avail. I dumbly had let my license expire and the uninsured person I hit insisted on calling cops. Well, the cop said nothing about my expired license but imagine I was someone like Katherine with past in the public eye, I would have been fined and car impounded on spot and it would have been splashed in headlines. I’m sure all would have assumed those two mistakes I made together meant I was impaired, wobbling post to say… we assume a lot and sometimes the easiest explanation or a dumb mistake is all something is.
I once drove my car right thru a red light with my children in the car. Hit a Yukon. Totaled my car, thank god we all had our seatbelts on and no one was hurt. Distracted because I was lost looking for a street sign.
Wow so sorry you endured that. See this is why I don’t want to judge her for this. We could have perfect records and one day be absent minded and make an idiot mistake and bam… totaled car! Thank god we don’t have the world, following our every move with ire and judgement.
Just hoping she did the right thing!