I am so excited about this news. I totally followed Jon and Kate Plus Eight and my favorite was always Collin. He was the smartest person on the show and often called out his parents for the things that we were all doing at home.
At some point, Kate had Collin LOCKED UP. I was devastated. Seriously. I take things a bit hard but he was such a beautiful boy and she was the cause of any issues he may or may not have had and then just sent him away because he would challenge her stupidity on camera.
Now it seems Collin is back out living with Jon and Hannah has jumped ship too. I feel like Kate is paying off the other kids. I feel like she is praying for Kate Plus Six. But what I want is Jon Plus four or whatever with his new lady.
I really don’t care, I am just so glad Collin is out of child prison! I want to sign up for Collin’s book! Collin is way too smart to be in this family he needs to jet as soon as he is old enough.
How on earth does a parent send their child to prison ?
Was this a discipline-based camp ? Did she accuse him of something like stealing ?
Kindly provide info TT, I am somewhat baffled
I dont think she meant actual prison. He was in a group home type place I think or maybe a special home. Maybe TT knows more but from what Kate has said when questioned about it, well actually she never gave an explanation that I’ve heard but from what she did say I had the impression he may have has some form of autism or maybe a mental health issue, maybe a learning disability. Probably something she thought would embarrass her because we all know that in her head, she was the real star of the show.
I used to watch their show all the time too. Couldnt stand her and thought John got a bit of a bad rap.
Thanks for clarifying
He had “behavioral issues” according to Kate. She wouldn’t even tell Jon where Collin was for a while. She didn’t want to deal with a difficult child so she sent him to a group home.
When the parent cant be bothered adressing issues. Often we the parents need to change for the kids to chance
TT – thank you for your take on this. I watched Jon and Kate Plus 8, and thought Jon was actually the 9th kid most of the time. Definitely a douche. That doesn’t mean Kate was any better – but perhaps overwhelmed being a single mom to 8 kids when 6 of them are the same age. That would be difficult. I lost interest/lost time to watch the show as their marriage imploded
So I never got where I could tell the boys apart much, and certainly never watched enough to get a sense if any of the kids had issues (it would not be beyond the realm of possibility that among 6 preemies there would be some delays or behavioral issues that might warrant a in treatment facility.
I was more with Alison Arngrim (of Nellie fame!) and the Minor Consideration non-profit (founded by Paul Petersen to aid and support child actors, and advocate for legal protection of kids in the industry). They had serious concerns about how the kids were NOT paid (even though they supported how the parents set up trust funds initially) . Pennsylvania is one of the states that has the least protections for child actors – and these kids were not considered child actors so didn’t even have THOSE protections. Alison once testified on how she was sometimes treated by the public because the people didn’t differentiate between her and Nellie. Mady was getting the “difficult child” exposure (she may very well have been one… as some kids are) and what that may mean on how the public would treat her. As Alison said, she at least absolutely knew she was not Nellie, that Nellie was a fictional character… Mady was Mady!
I trust your gut and experience though. I just feel badly for these kids that there wasn’t a guardian ad litem assigned from the get go, and it doesn’t appear that they have an involved extended family to provide a safe space.
It surprises me how irrvelant this man is now but he still makes it a point to try and be, family business is no ones business and strangers opinions mean nothing and they should also mind their own business. Jon if your serious about your children get off of social media and stop putting your family business out there.
At the same time, if he was a regular dad posting on social media, no one would blink.
What social media are you on, regular dads get blinked at all the time?
Because Kate, The Saint, has never exploited them for her own personal gain. Get a grip.
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I guess you cant read either, I already stated Kate has her own issues, but she isn’t and hasn’t made it a career bashing her childrens father publicly, when your working and taking care of that many children you have better things to do like raising your children whether the world agrees with your methods or not. So maybe you should take your own advice and get a grip?
Yes she has you idiotic sucker.
Now I’m an idiotic sucker….get help and good luck with that!!!!
lol dummy
Mary Conrad #2 must have you in a tailspin. I hear she’s quite lovely.
I know I heard that to.
ARE YOU ON CRACK?
Kate most certainly made Jon bashing her career and kept him from Collin when she incarcerated him. HAVE SEVERAL SEATS!
Agree!
These special “homes” are notorious for bad conditions and abuse. Their techniques to turn bad behavior around include solitary confinement and turning the kids on each other. Elan in Maine was an example but has since closed , although for older kids , children as young as 13 lived there.
It breaks my heart that Colin had to experience 1 day of this.
How fast we all forgot Jons disgusting behavior after the divorce ?
Didn’t forget it but I’d rather his son be with him than in some special home just because his mom didn’t want to be bothered.
Just out of curiosity, did she say that or do you know her personally, just wondering?
They’re both disgusting. That was a long time ago, and he seems to be trying to do right by the kids Kate has abused for years.
I understand having a child with special needs. There are lots of us raising children with special needs IN our homes and doing the best we can to raise our other children as well. I understand that as a single mother of so children it would be more difficult for her but she has the financial means to afford support that most of the rest of us don’t. No excuse to have sent the boy away from his family and siblings when you could provided the support and additional help he needs at home with the help of aids in specialist that are readily available if you have the money. I think she simply didn’t want to be bothered .
Just want to make a comment for the “other side”. I worked in residential treatment for 20 years. For all of the abusive, bad conditions, and badly staffed centers there are hundreds of well run, loving, treatment centers that are doing excellent work and make a difference in kids lives. I have adults that i had thirty years ago that call me, visit, and send me pics of my “grandchildren”. Please don’t make general statements about a whole industry.
Thank you for the reminder. My son was in residential treatment for five months as an adult for mental health issues. His counselor said to me that he’d never received this level of care and was responding well. I was both relieved and upset at the same time. I had worked very hard to keep him out of such care, because of the bad reputation, but it was just what he needed. Bless you for your work!
No one knows the story on Colin. It must of been bad for him to be removed from the home and don’t want to speculate. Tired of the Kate hate. She wouldn’t do this unless doctor recommended and had seven other kids to think about. It’s amazing how Kate has raised these kids alone. Jon was blowing through money (condo at Trump Tower, 2 seat sports car, stole her computer info and wrote book) so she had to divorce him. It’s good he’s finally stepping up to the plate and natural for some of them wanting to know their father. The two older girls want nothing to do with him. I wouldn’t want to walk in Kate’s shoes and be worried Jon is raising Colin.
I agree entirely with you, yes Kate may not have been easy but Jon has to own up to his wrong doings and stop bashing his childrens mother publicly, we are all passing judgement but truthfully their toxic relationship is none of our business and Jon’s girlfriend should be ashamed supporting this nonsense.
The only thing Kate has ever said about Colin’s incarceration is that he had anger issues.
I am SO happy Collin is out! Hopefully he will be alright with Jon and Hannah.
Tamera looking at the Christmas trees in the background and Jon’s post that he and the children went Christmas tree shopping has prompted me to ask a question. What’s the possibly of having a Christmas Movie section where we could comment about the movies on Hallmark, Lifetime and elsewhere? I know that you want us to stay on topic, so I apologize in advance. The movies were really good over the weekend and I thought you “might” think about it, given last year’s Christmas Tree contest you had? Just a thought, hopefully I won’t get banned to the WLS? Or whatever you call it.
So glad Collin is home and with those that want him there.
My fav was usually Hannah.
Watched the show for a few years, but could not tolerate Kate.
The locals can tell you what a nightmare she is.
Will be interesting to see how many of them write books on their growing up on tv books
Thanks for the positive post TT
Oh good, if I go to the WLS I’ll have company! lol
Kate was never perfect but I truly believe she would not have this child away from home unless he had a real problem dealing and this was best for him and the other kids. John seems to forget he was never father of the year between hawking t-shirts, living with various women who were probably only attracted to him because of the show and hanging out with the likes of Michael Lohan partying.
Having to deal with a kid who has issues I can tell you it takes a huge toll on not only the kid but everyone in the family. For Colin’s sake I hope it is the right thing to do to remove him from a group setting and depend on Jon to help him with these issues.
I know someone who was trying so hard to get help for her son who was really having some psychological issues. Nobody in his home was safe with him there, they had to relinquish him to foster care in order to have an independent third party witness the behavior before they were taken seriously. I’m sure that if you have money, it’s probably easier to get your child into one of these places, but given how cheap Kate always was when it came to the kids, I doubt she was trying to buy him into one.
I hope this kid thrives with his father. There’s are so many different ways to help a child. It bothers me when families put their kids on tv for the parents needs. Kids come in all types, don’t assume each child can modify themselves to fit in your ideal mold.
Wasn’t Colin the one who had a real interest in animals, and he was always memorizing stuff, etc..I had the impression he was on the autism spectrum, which I am sure could be very challenging with so many kids. I’ve seen people struggle with just one such child, so can’t imagine having a child like that and caring for 7 more kids also! But, if she had money-which I think she did?-it seems like it would have been more reasonable to keep him at home, with caregivers or teachers, and not send him off. If sending off was the only option, then they should have made sure he was close to home and/or ensure that they all saw him regularly. Him being separated from the others at Birthday time was the worst!! Like many of the people on here, I watched their show with interest during the early seasons. And, Kate certainly seemed like a loving, hard working (albeit bossy) mom. And I heard nothing but bad stuff about John re:the divorce. But, I changed my tune when Kate started focusing more on her own appearance than on her kids. She seems very vain and selfish now, and John seems to have grown up quite a bit. It’s just a pity that the kids couldn’t have two solid, responsible parents to look up to as they have grown up. Both of their parents have been shit shows at one time or another! Regardless, glad to hear that Colin has returned to a loving home with family members. Thanks TT!!
Put me on the waiting list. I want that book too.
Colin’s book will be a blockbuster. Everybody abhors Kate & John. I hope he can heal. I cannot imagine those two as biological progenitors!
Jon seems to have matured since his time with Kate. He has a girlfriend with two kids. Hannah is with him fulltime by her choice. I am surprised more of the kids have not opted to live with Jon.
I’m team Jon. He’s grown up a lot after a ton of terrible choices. I think he’s likely done more or tried more than we all know. Kate would never admit any help he’s given (except in a back handed way) and she hasn’t changed a bit. I work with kids and can say I’ve never had a student go to a residential treatment facility unless it was really needed, those places are full all the time. Some are great, some are crappy, it all depends. Rooting for Collin and really, all the kids. I’ll support them through any books, podcasts, movies or mini series they create.Lord knows they will have the material.
It looks like from Jon’s IG that Collin may just be doing home visits with Jon.
I’m really not sure how Kate managed to get him locked up for this long. Collin is very smart and that was a huge challenge for Kate. Collin would talk back to her Kate always had some sort of issue with Collin . He was often singled out as the disobedient child and had a lot of anger toward Kate because of it. Kate appears to have gotten him diagnosed with something. Collin doesn’t even look like himself anymore. I wonder if any of his brothers even see him at all. It’s all very sad. Collin has always been my favorite.
He was one of my favorites as well. Always a sweet and smart kid.
He is sweet. Kate didn’t like being held accountable for her words & actions & I think that’s why Colin was banished. She is like a character on American Horror Story. Kate seems truly demonic.
i am a bad mother that sent my kid to prison. You people are ignorant. You don’t just get a kid into a facility without proof that it is in the best interest of the child. It took years to get the help my kid needed that no matter what I did I couldn’t provide on my own. The state run facility was the best thing that ever happened to us. It was hard on us both but my kid got the help he needed and is now thriving. You judgmental assholes with no clue can go fuck yourselves.
I’m sorry that you had to go through a trying time with your child, I feel like many commenting with hateful comments are doing so because they dislike Kate and post as if they know all that she thinks, does or is about. Happy Holidays to you and your’s!
This judgmental asshole’s opinion that Kate did not ever have Collin’s best interest at heart, and that Collin was not diagnosed with ANYTHING until he was randomly incarcerated and that when he finally got out he went to live with Jon, or possibly he is the only person visiting him because the real issue Collin has is Kate has absolutely nothing to do with your kid.
This post is about a boy named Collin. Not your kid.
Of course you can get a child put away if you’re willing to pay for it. You are naive and maybe a little ignorant.
I agree that she probably didn’t do it because she wanted to, but because she had to. My son is not diagnosed either but he has major anger issues. Wouldn’t know it by meeting him or looking at him. He doesn’t show it until he really knows you. Granted I’m not sending him away (because I wasn’t stupid enough to have 8 kids) and we make it work through therapy but he attends a special needs school and he receives therapy there as welll. The school has been a godsend and has only changed him for the better. They are way more positive than his public school was and so he actually has confidence and is starting to like school. Hopefully the same is true for Colin. Too often we try to place kids whole are just a little different into boxes and it can so negatively affect them.
Most kids who are sensitive act out angrily when their parents are going through a divorce and have been uprooted from their support system. It’s not unusual.
Kate is a vindictive manipulative fucking cunt who have and will continue to fuck up her children.
What he said?
Ditto!
1. There is speculation she did not even have fertility problems, yet wanted multiples, so took medication for both pregnancies.
2. It’s been written that if the kids didn’t like the lunch she packed and left food in their lunchbox, she would repack it everyday until it was gone- even when that meant eating moldy bread.
3. Of course Jon acted immature, because Kate would not choose a man who was a firm decision maker.
4. Does Collin really even have an issue so exaggerated it requires an institution?
I question that because these points prove how controlling Kate is- she prides herself in her regimented ways. She has no room in her life for a child who is sensitive, emotional, questions her, or has outbursts. She basically was quoted saying he had emotional problems she could not control and with the others, she institutionalized him. If I had been her child, she would’ve re-homed me for sure! And maybe I’m projecting here, but it seems to me that maybe Collin is a “why” kid who wouldn’t just blindly follow orders and it led to a path where his buttons were pushed and he acted out. And Jon may have made mistakes, but he seemed like a dad who would love his children unconditionally, which is more than we can say for Kate.
I don’t think anyone here lived with this woman, yet you all have such negative things to say as if it were fact? This is disturbing on every level to me. There’s a lot of hate for this woman based on what you all viewed on a show each week years ago. Unless someone has this kid’s medical records, how can you state what his mental state is or was? This is just horrible irresponsible on every level and goes against “just gossip”, something is really wrong.
She put herself on tv so we could all watch her and form opinions. She made a lot of money off of putting her life on display. Yet we’re not allowed to have thoughts and opinions? STFU. The fact that Hannah chose to live with Jon and Collin will be released to him when je is released is quote telling. The rest have Stockholm Syndrom.
Your so-called opinions are sometimes written as fact, there’s a different HUGE! But then again it’s clear with your name calling above you’re just posting hate to be hateful. Have a good day dear! Nope I won’t stoop to your level and tell you to STFU, it’s totally beneath me! lol
Mu opinions aren’t “so-called”. They exist. Look up words before you use them because it just makes you look dumb and nullifies your comment.
The same can be said for your typo. “Mu opinions…” ??
If you are so disturbed and want first-hand commenters to state their opinion, then why are you coming to a blog about “tea” to read what all the “horrible, irresponsible on every level” people have to say?
Is it so far fetched to question how a controlling parent would especially struggle to nurture a child with behavioral problems?
And do your own research on Kate. I’ve read way too much for some of it not to be true.
Plus we witnessed her interactions with Collin FOR YEARS and it was always different from her interactions with the rest of the brood because Collin was smarter than she was by the time he was six or seven. He was very inquisitive and resisted her regimented rules.
We saw it on the show, with cameras rolling. I can only imagine how she treated him when the cameras were not rolling.
I agree with you 100%, TT!
A hit dog will holler, yes my post stands as it is, you state you’ve read too much about her for it not to be true? That’s pretty deep logic, as for commenting, UNLESS I hear from TT, my right to an opinion is no different than your’s. Have a great holiday season. lol
I wonder if the other children are scared to leave because it will piss her off and she’s made them feel that if they leave, they can’t come back and live with her if it doesn’t work out with their dad. They either have to stay with her or lose her love. Speaking from my own experience.
I don’t think the shameful part is sending the child away. I have two children and if I ever thought one became a danger to myself or each other, I would do anything to keep them both safe. That being said, I would be there to support them both in their different journeys. It doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of evidence that Kate did that. I also think Kate seems like the kind of person who would publicize the hell out of it if she did. Seems like a very sad situation all the way around. Hopefully his dad and others will help him thru this difficult time.
The only thing Collin was a danger to was Kate’s enormous ego.
Damn right about that fact !
Then I hope he’s in good hands with his dad. No one should ever give up on their kids. I know far too many people that wish they could have children of their own who would never do this.
What social media are you on, regular dads get blinked at all the time?
I’m no Kate Gosselin fan,but, the fact is no one knows exactly what issues Colin is dealing with, and most people do not understand how difficult it can be to parent a child with emotional issues. When other kids are negatively affected by a troubled sibling sometimes an impossible choice has to be made. Sadly, I believe Jon and Kate both use their kids as pawns, and it is possible neither of them are equipped to care for Colin’s needs.
I was sent to one of these places as a teenager. My parents sent me to one in Mexico that was eventually shut down by Mexican authorities…. it was that bad. The owner was a convicted child molestor (of boys, so I was safe from that, at least).
These programs rarely help in any way. They just damage kids further. Treating children as if they were criminals for being different, more “difficult” than their siblings, fucks them up. Parents are essentially saying the kids are more trouble than they worth, and they was their hands of them. If Colin was setting fires and abusing animals, than yeah, send him somewhere. The majority of kids I was in a program with were highly intelligent, nonconformist kids who spoke up when something didn’t seem right and acted out because life is not fair and parents are not always competent.
That’s how I always saw him.
All residential treatment facilities are not the same. Some are great and some are horrible just like most things.
Jon has been trying to get Collin out for two years. Now that the treatment center is ready to release him, he wants to live with John.
Kate is going to fight him for custody just like she did with Hannah. She lost the case with Hannah, and appealed it TWICE. Racking up legal bills on both sides for a case it is highly unlikely she will win. If I had to guess, Collin most likely refused visitation with her if she even bothered to try to see him.