Here we go. I am excited for this show even though it interrupts The Voice mid show. The Voice is really good this season!
Gina’s birdnesting seems to be going well. She is bringing the last few things to the Casita when it is Matt’s turn to feed the baby birds. I get this is not an idea that would work for everyone, but it is so much easier in the kids and I admire her willingness to do it. She has redone one of the playrooms to be Matt’s bedroom. Bravo. I hope this is something they can maintain. Her casita is adorable. Kelly drools over photos of Matt. He is hot. Other sites have posted his photo but I will not because he didn’t sign up to be on the show. The kids still have not been told about the divorce.
Tamra arrives at Vicki’s house with coffee for Vicki and when Steve answers the door she says if she had known he was home she would have brought him one as well. He says if it is after four he’s on cocktail hour. I like Steve.
Tamra goes to visit Vicki who looks HORRIBLE. Why do people do this to themselves? Despite Vicki looking like death warmed over, the show must go on and Tamra has to trash Gina to Vicki. She says Gina is fake and lying about Tamra saying Shannon is mentally ill.
Gina and Kelly talk about the gossip mill and Gina points out she never said anything to Shannon about Tamra being a bad friend. Gina says Shannon called her into her room privately to ask exactly what was being said because she is in the middle of a custody battle and she doesn’t want to lose her kids child support. All of that is hogwash because the girls are old enough to decide where they want to live on their own.
The two surgery patients and Tamra are going to have a counter party with an old lady theme at the time of Gina’s birthday party. #Tacky.
Emily is having a party with a cup reader. I want to go! Gina and Tamra are together for the first time and Tamra is being cold. At the reading, Tamra is up first. The cup reader tells Tamra that she has a lot going on in her life and she has the right to do something for herself and perhaps divorce. WOW. I don’t mean to sound like a moron but these cup reading scenes always seem to me to sort of know *cough* production *cough* what is going on. Do you think Tamra would divorce Eddie? I don’t see this but I am not a Turkish coffee cup reader. Then she says they are not going to divorce but maybe just take some time apart.
She tells Emily she has a nice life and a nice family. Someone has given her many thing and she needs to repay her. She’s going to get news on the telephone soon.
She asks Gina if she really wants the divorce and then tells her she is going to sign the paper. She asks who besides Emily’s sister-in-law Shireen, (I like her!) who else has an SH name. They all say Shannon and she says that she needs help. She tells Gina to help her as soon as possible.
Meanwhile, Kelly and Michael attend Jolie’s play. Michael is there volunteering with the other moms. Kelly arrives in time for the show. There is definitely still chemistry between Kelly and Michael. Oh, look at them cuddling up! And we get to see some of the performance without the copyrighted songs from Oliver. Jolie did a great job and it looked like a great show!
Before Gina’s birthday party she went to her son’s game and then ducked out to film. Her son got the game ball and she feels very guilty for missing that event.
Vicki’s son stops by and he is not happy that she had another unnecessary surgery and did not even tell her kids. Kelly is the one who sent him a facetime of her stapled face. Vicki tells him not to tell Brianna. Brianna found out. Speaking of Brianna, she posted a very interesting photo yesterday of herself, her husband, her two boys and Donn. The caption was “my family.” She looked like she had lost a lot of weight and not in the good way, in the she looked sick and kind of a little bit held hostage way. I’m glad Donn is welcome on THE LAND to keep an eye on her because it doesn’t appear that Vicki is on the guest list for THE LAND anymore. I actually think that is why they moved. Vicki still has a life insurance policy on Donn. I mean I guess she paid into it and didn’t want to cancel it. I don’t see the problem there but I have a feeling y’all will. So let me know your thoughts.
I feel like I need a death box like Vicki. I’m not sure anyone would come looking for it except maybe my ladysitter. Eventually. lol.
It time for the dueling parties. Emily sets a beautiful table (lost art) for Gina’s birthday party at a restaurant. I love Emily. I miss setting the Christmas and Thanksgiving tables with my sister. It’s a sequined dress event and as someone just said the all look like disco balls. But in a good way. We also meet Tatiana Gina’s friend. I think she has been on before. Gina says she and Matt had phone sex on her birthday.
Meanwhile, at Vicki’s house, the old lady party has started. In typical old lady fashion it will focus on Shannon being constipated since the surgery. I’m not sure I can recap this. Le sigh. Tamra brought Vicki two casseroles. And some enemas. Apparently, Vicki doesn’t need one because anal with Steve did the trick. TOO MUCH INFORMATION! They are going to give Shannon an enema. I just can’t. Actually, I think Shannon might have given Tamra an enema. I am not paying much attention.
Tamra tells Kelly she is at Vicki’s and totally forgot about Gina’s party. Then she tells Shannon that Gina compared her to her mentally ill mother.
Wow next week is the season finale. I will miss this franchise. There are currently FOUR housewives shows airing at once thought so something needs to give. The finale event is a Femme Fatale party by Emily. She is hoping her mom will come. I hope she doesn’t because these bitches will all walk up to her and say, “So, Emily says you are mentally ill and were a bad mother…” Oh no, she does come. This will not end well. Gina tells Tamra that Shannon is telling her blatant lies.
Are y’all gonna miss the OGs of the OC?
I can only speak for myself but really did not need another Shannon gets an enema storyline. Sorry, not sorry the old lady party was lame. Emily, Gina and Kelly are more my speed and I am an old lady.
I’m an old lady and don’t like how the younger three shame women for their age. There’s no one left to like in the O.C. for me.
Age shaming is one thing. Pretending enemas are a fun party favor is different.
I’m not comparing parties. Geriatrics has been a subject before.
Yes it has. Enemas and hair rollers don’t equate geriatrics though.
We’re talking about 2 different things.
Are readings the new vow renewals?
I can’t believe Eddie stays with Tamra. Maybe the reader is right.
Weird stuff from the cup reader re: Tamra and Eddie splitting up or whatever; they seem to have a pretty good relationship. Cute to see Kelly and Michael being proud parents together. I do think Shannon could use some anti-depressants, no shame in taking meds to get through major shit. What sucks is the way the ladies brought that up…now she’ll never consider it.
There is a huge difference between telling someone to consider an antidepressant temporarily to get over the hump of a stressful life event, versus gossiping behind their back about being bipolar or some other mental illness that isn’t stress-related. Emily is projecting her family stuff on Shannon, and it’s not cool.
It annoys the fuck out of me when cast members aren’t open about their own lives, whether actually hiding real stuff (Gina), or manufacturing BS storylines (Cynthia, Porsha) about themselves, or hiding their own stuff while also gossiping/shit stirring about others as their storyline (LVP). Gina has spoken very little about her own divorce, giving no real reason for it – we haven’t even seen her husband all season (yet he blamed the show for their divorce? whatever), but her main storyline has been to pick at Shannon all season.
I know Shannon can be annoying, but she is also very real. This woman actually gave herself an enema on TV, for crying out loud! Shannon has made for some very interesting TV. Gina, not so much.
Everything about Shannon is fake– especially her laugh. Loved the first season of Shannon when she was real and not so much now. Everything is calculated.
I agree with everything you said, Something Clever. Hiding and faking storylines gets to me, too. That’s why I can’t watch Atlanta or NJ anymore. I don’t believe those ladies. Shannon has her issues, but I do enjoy her authenticity, flaws and all. I’m hoping Gina’s keeping quiet about her marriage for the sake of her kids. Protecting one’s kids, especially when they’re so young, is admirable.
I am definitely team 40’s and under. The old lady party looked lame and it was rude of Tamra to “forget” to call. Dumb.
Regarding Brianna, I think she and her husband are keto. From experience, you lose a LOT of weight relatively quickly. I hope that she is healthy and just made some diet changes to lose the weight. I love her. Wish we could replace her mom with her!
It’s kind of funny Tamra “forgot” Gina’s party after saying she probably wouldn’t go. I’m just saying.
She didn’t forget the party, she forgot to call to tell them that she wasn’t coming.
Yeah, I don’t really believe that either. She said she forgot and we all know how truthful she is.
So who was driving the “kids are not going to film bus?” Was it Simon or Tamera? If it was Simon I’ll be he hates seeing Spencer filming only because he can’t control that anymore
I just realized I’m watching last weeks show/ I must have missed it and didn’t realize. Fuck these time changes. I have to wait until 10 pm pst to see tonight show !
My god Tamra is a cunt. She sure is at the center of all the nastiness as always. I cannot stand her. Vickie is always looking for anything or anyone to make her feel good about herself and loved/lovable, I find that sad. Like I feel sorry for her sad. Shannon is a crazy loon, it’s not menopause, it’s notjing but being a giant fucking neurotic pain in the ass. We have seen her being insane and drinking too much since she has been on the show. That’s all any judge needs to see and then they know she is cracked. Kelly still loves Michael, she always will, she doesn’t know how to be happy. That also makes me sad. I really like Gina, she is pretty authentic and that is refreshing. Emily is my new most favorite housewife. I enjoy her and her scenes and I really love her relationship with Shane. You can tell that he is her rock.
I love Emily, too. Of all of the housewives ever she is the one I most want to be like. She is a good person—-by all standards better than me. I can’t say that for 99% of the HWs.
Listen I “was” Ms. hippy dippy granola mama organic all the way. I gave birth in the damn birthing suite alone sans hubby, mother, in laws and all of the like. I breastfed his cute little cheeks until 3 1/2 yrs old. I felt great but I stil needed chemical help. I fought it. I found a great psych. he said sometimes using a bandaid in times when your brain just cannot make or break the chemicals is ok.
I tried but I started hallucinating that the kiddo nursing was a ghoul I knew I was tired that I just couldn’t do it all alone so I relented.
10 yrs later my obgyn just recently allowed me to get to 100 mgs. It’s real there is no shame and I love Shannon’s hippy dippy ways but a slight tweaking may help. I started at 25 mgs 10 yrs ago. It’s taken forever to get to 100. To just have that tiny bit of relief can move mountains. She’s kooky and funny but the god awful mood swings bring me back to my unmediated bi polar birth mom. She can do better her girls deserve better. If she were truly hippy then she’d have left the show to circle her wagons to protect herself and her daughters. She chooses to stay on a show that is I famous for eviscerating it’s weak.
Go take time to heal, be a Mom to females. Christ if I could guarantee $25,000 child support and etc. my ass would be gone with the wind to insure I don’t pass on shitty interpersonal coping skills.
As always Tammyjo is gag inducing. Vicki terrifies me that a successful woman so desperately craves approval from anything breathing.
Dear lord. Casseroles and enemas??? That’s not a party; that’s like a nightmare!
I loved Emily’s table setting though. They’re so normal and nice.
Tamara! I KNEW you would say that the tea reader was production driven!! Let me live and have my fantasies that there is no man behind the curtain!! (Andy). IDK I love this show but rather have me a Bethanney Bitch session or an RHOA beat down anytime. I’d like to know more about Matt, thank you for not posting his picture. I’d like to know more about Gina and Emily. I already know all I need to know about the other 4!! Much more than I ever bargained for!!
I don’t think Shannon can speak without whining. She is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!!! It’s draining to watch her. I love Emily and Gina. Feel kinda done with the others. Who knew that Kelly would emerge as the sane, mature one with her divorce from Michael. She is great this season. Keep her and the new girls and say buh-bye to the rest.
Let’s both pray to our Almighty Bravo Gods that this happens!
God this is the best idea ever. And it’s also an extremely popular one. Why do we still have to see Tamras evil weasel face and Vicki. I honestly thought they would let Vicki go after that cancer bs. Although she has been at least a tiny bit tolerable this season. Shannon Tamra and Vicki need to gooooo. Love Emily and Gina.
I saw a post Ryan, Briana’s husband posted with her and their family and Donn. I don’t think Briana is on social media.
I’m curious about having insurance policies on an ex spouse actually works. Like, if Donn got remarried, would Vicki still collect?
Seems gauche AF to me.
Yes, it is her policy. She purchased it If Donn gets remarried his wife could take out her own. I presume both would be paid.
Makes sense. Asking for a friend of course (and really good for Vicki or anyone else).
Wait… What? How?
That doesn’t seem dodgy at all… 🤔
I assume that Vicki bought that policy while she was married to Donn and has kept it. From my understanding (which may be wrong) one has to have some kind of “interest” in a person to buy insurance on their life, e.g., husband, mother etc. You can’t buy one on some rando.
Yes exactly, she purchased it when they were married. Was she supposed to ask for a refund?
Didn’t she clearly say “You can legally insure your ex-husband”? Sounded like she took the policy out when he was her ex. But I’m sure she had life insurance while they were married and like you said “Was she supposed to cancel it?”. But I think that’s where the confusion came in. Can’t remember yesterday but I remember what the HW’s said? WTF is wrong with me?
If you watch true crime shows, you can see that IN SOME STATES people can take out policies on whomever they want. Then kill them. I think that insurance companies have made changes after being scammed. But taking out a policy while married is sensible and she paid for it, so when he dies, the money is hers. Just business.
Actually, you CANNOT take out life insurance on just anyone in any state. You have to have some “interest” in the person. THey must be a partner or a family member. You can’t take out life insurance on Cher and just wait for her to die. You have to have some sort of relationship.
Nm that was a premature post. Now that I’ve finished reading your entire post I feel dumb.
In my state you can take out life insurance on anyone without a relationship but it has to be in writing that they agreed to it and were of sound mind in doing so.
Wait a sec. So anyone can take a policy out on anyone? I want to take one out on Mick Jagger and Betty White. I love both of them so that’s not shade just a smart purchase.
Shannon Tamara and Vicki r just plain pathetic….. love Gina and Emily!! The old lady party summed up this season!! Give this show an ENEMA!!!
She did anal whilst constipated? Well… she’s brave. TMI indeed!
See now we are in your area of expertise….
Hahaha! Oh Vicki, I can’t…. Just, no. Ugh.
I thought Shannon already told Tamara NO about telling Gina telling her she was a shitty friend. Those are Tamara’s words. Unfortunately for Shannon, I don’t think Gina misheard anything, she just repeated it. Her motives are what they are debating, but Shannon’s pretty much been in bed. I’d prompt her as well if someone was discussing my mental health during a custody case. (Tamara just wants to pretend like she had nothing to do with any of it)
Obviously, Shannon gets much better. I believe Gina and Shannon are ok too….I guess Shannon chose to let bygones be bygones with Tamara. I think Emily is wrong here. She’s the first to say she doesn’t know Shannon. She’s an attorney. She should know better than to diagnose people she just met. I’m glad this season is over. WTH would it have it been about without Shannon? That’s sad! For us.
Emily didn’t diagnose anything. She said that Shannon’s behavior brought back unpleasant memories of her mother. Probably something Shannon’s daughters will be saying one day. This show will definitely leave scars on them.
The show will leave scars or Shannon will leave scars? I truly feel for Shannon’s girls.
Agree!! They shouldn’t be seeing all of this!!
Tamara! You got me all misty-eyed about setting a table being a lost art and doing that with your sister. I did the same with my own sister when we were kids. We would get my mom’s “good silverware” out of the plastic she kept it in, pulled her Cambridge Glass dinnerware (another lost art) out of the cupboard and set the Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner table. Wonderful memories.
I have a request. Can you please post a Thanksgiving forum this year where everyone posts about what they’re making/eating for the holidays. It’s one of my favorite of posts of the year…among many favorites.
Emily’s table settings reminded me of the table settings on Below Deck, complete with glass beads scattered around.
Yass please! I still remember TeeCee’s recipes from way back and miss them.
Wasn’t TeeCee one of the nut jobs from way back in the day? Or am I confusing my nut jobs.
Yes her Thanksgiving recap 2 years ago was lovely miss it as well.
We need and want nice things.
I follow Briana’s husband, Ryan on Instagram. They are on the Keto diet. I don’t like him one bit, total d*uche canoe, but, I like to keep up on what Briana’s doing. Donn visits them regularly…
You can’t type the word douche, because? You don’t support feminine hygiene? I get douching is bad for the vagina (can you type vagina?) but it’s just some medicated water in a squirt bottle. Can you type squirt?
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@K8T: Nice to know they are doing Keto. I am too. I belong to a couple of Keto groups on FB and there are lots of women in the groups that are doing it to help manage their Lupus flair ups.
Emily’s table settings reminded me of the table settings on Below Deck, complete with glass beads scattered around.
Vicki to Tamra: I don’t think lying works ANYMORE* on this group.
*emphasis mine.
I love Tamara’s costume. I once attended a company meeting that way (sans the face enhancements) but with a giant coffeee mug of koeoke coffee. We got off work at midnight and meeting was at 8a.m. And I had to leave a famous Bay Area MLB player asleep in my bed. Oh, my wild youth.
On Nanette do tell!!! 😉
Got a question here-what exactly is Gina’s casita? It looked like someone’s guest room by their pool, is it on her property and where she goes when her hubby comes over for the weekend or is it a rental? Also, how come no one ever really has to work on these shows? Most divorced people would have to get a job, but perhaps she is getting a lot of alimony like Shannon.
Speaking of Shannon, I don’t get why the others indulge her pity party daily. Remember when she yelled in front of the entire LA Coliseum at some USC game about a lady doing her husband? Thought that was odd to embarrass herself, even if she did come upon the lady at the game.
As far as Brianna, I feel sorry for her. It seems like she lets the hubby boss her around. Remember when he yelled at Lydia’s sparkle mom about putting her feet on Vicki’s couch? He seems wrapped real tight, I think he was married before Brianna. Not sure why she married him?
I miss Donn on the show, Perhaps Vicki is keeping the policy as its the only thing she has left of Donn, and she knows Donn was the only man ever really good to her.
I know everyone condemns Ryan yelling at that vapid sparkle lady but remember he was headed for his 5th deployment and scared shit he wouldn’t come back. Tension is tight before deployment no matter what the situation is. Give the guy a break. Brianna is no slouch.
Vicki seems to be recovering well from her gobble-lectomy. Vicki has no sentiment regarding the life insurance policy. She hopes to make the money back she lost when she divorced Donn.
Gina “casita” is a guest house she rents monthly when Matt is in town. Question is: if they get along so well why can’t they stay in same house together?
If it wasn’t for Shannon it would of been a dud season. She is what she is.
I thought she said on the show that it was a little apartment type back house that she was renting from a friend of hers to make transition easier she said it wasn’t a great chapter but it was a transition chapter? But honestly I thought it was cute! But then I also don’t feel the need to have plastic surgery constantly or fake lips or cheeks like the OC ladies do 😂😂
Vicki is 100% keeping the life insurance policy on Don because Vicki is allllll about that money.
Brianna married her husband bc she loves him. Not everyone chooses a perfect human being as their husband.
Thank you for this sentiment, Kelnola. I’m going to have to remember that one as I found it very helpful.
The old lady party was pathetic. The only thing worse than seeing a vag rejuvenation is hearing them do enemas. Just how much lower can they go?? Sadly I think Ryan moved the family to get away from Vicki and her influence and while he seems unbelievably happy, I wonder if Brianna is.
As far as insurance, I still have a policy on my ex-husband and we’ve been divorced 10 years but I had paid into it for 8 years before the divorce so I’m just going to keep it up. I imagine state laws vary, but there was a male acquaintance of mine who is totally money hungry and he would befriend old people from his church who were in their 80s and 90s and offer them tens of thousands of dollars so they could have more money to live out their remaining years but then have them agree to naming him as a beneficiary of a million-dollar life insurance policy which he pay the premiums. So he could maybe invest $30,000 up front in a person and another $10,000 a year in premiums but then get a million-dollar return in just a few years. I think it’s reprehensible but apparently it’s legal here.
JFC. What a ghoul.
Please send him my way. I think we can make a deal!
I actually liked the old lady party better. Maybe its because of those cracks made about age, in Jamaica. As soon as they found out Tamra wasnt coming, they cackled and talked shit, so who cares. Yeah, it was rude but it I couldnt make myself care. The parties are allways so full of back biting and fake friendships, that I thought it was hilarious, to have a un house wife party. I think Vickies surgery came out great. I love Steve for her. The insurance on Donn was creepy. Shell probably get it on Steve too. Kelly and Gina do not need a divorce, they just want to be single and see who else wants them. Theyre most likely gonna be in for a rude awakening, but will have to see for themselves. I wish them good luck. Im glad Shannon finds her strength and mojo in the future.
I could see the old lady party being better if it was an age thing. Are enemas and hair rollers fun in a different age group? If the younger women said the older women were less fun because of their age shouldn’t the older women have fun on their own terms? Surely enemas don’t show fun at any age.
I think the enemas were a funny joke thing I didnt take it seriously,, and pretty sure they were basically doing what the others were doing, talking, laughing and having some adult beverages. Except, they were relaxed, at home, comfortable and were in the company of who they liked. As opposed to sequins, and hanging out with women theyve been having issues with. For once, I didnt have to listen to the fights, cursing, Im gonna kill you, you said this and that, and all the BS. The younger party were the ones with the sour puss faces over it. I was proud of Tamra for owning her age too. I think they should allways have seperate parties, because I like seeing women hang out and not fight. It was nice seeing Steve there too, and how hes watching over Vickie.
I like Steve, too! More than anyone else on this show! How did Vicki land such a cute, sweet, funny guy?! And he seems to genuinely care for her. She better not fuck this up like she did with Donn.
This is an interesting perspective bc to me it seems like she annoys him all the time. In every scene with the two of them he seems to be rolling his eyes at her. I feel cringy watching them together but I do kinda like him. Way better than Brooks. I couldn’t stand his face.
He hung in there after the enema night so he can deal with just about anything those crazies can throw him. I like his sardonic humor.
Vicki is announcing that she is interested in opening a bar in Mexico. She is also inviting anyone who would like to go with her down there Dec 1st- 4th.
Emily is such a great friend, arriving early to set up that table and it looked great! Who cares if Tamra showed up or not. She’s just a bitch anyway. The old lady “party” was ridiculous, Shannon is annoying and Vicki is just herself at this point. I don’t think she said that her and Steve did anal to get rid of her constipation. I think she was just trying to imply it. I’m SURE Andy will ask about that at the reunion. It does not surprise me one bit that she still has life insurance on Donn.
I think that Kelly and Michael will eventually get back together. I feel like Kelly just wanted to sleep around a little bit without it being considered cheating.
I’ve loved this season but season since season 9 in my opinion:) feel like we need the return of Alexis now she’s divorced Jim
This season of OC was boring. They need to take an extended haiatus of the show and reboot it with new people. Keep Kelly and dump everyone else.
Did ANY of us think we would be putting Kelly up as #1? I thought she was funny since she started, but her mean jabs were too much. She and Michael make better friends than romantic partners.
I’m not sure why but Michael looks like he still totally adores Kelly.
Well… that was a short season.
Lots of people here noticed Kelly and Michael flirting, but did anyone else notice the band on his ring finger of his left hand? It is only there for a hot second when he is making buttons.
I thought it was a jab at him being present when Tamra said “Oh, Steve. If I’d known you’d be here I would have brought you a coffee too.”
After she said that, I focused on how odd it was for him to be in the family room next to the kitchen while they had their girls’ night. Husbands normally make themselves scarce when their wives have ladies over. Tamra was right. He was expected to stay upstairs or be out of the house.
Steve was eavesdropping and “contributing” comments like saying “I’m not cleaning that up haha.” He should have gone upstairs.
Shannon is driving me nuts this season! I don’t think I could deal with a friend who was that neurotic.
TeeCee wasn’t a nut job. She was a bit of a bitch (and I only say that because I don’t think it will offend her) but she was hilarious. I think she’s good friends with Tamara.
Thanks, Kelnlola. I just remember a huge kerfuffle from a year (or more?) ago that was so bizarre you couldn’t make it up. I wish I could find the post Tamara made explaining the madness.
I seriously wanted to smack Vicki when she did that whole ‘I need this shirt in an extra large for my friend Shannon’ bullshit. Then went on to say she needed a medium. I think it’s one of the rudest things ever done on this show.
Vicki, Shannon might be a tiny bit bigger than you but you are one of the ugliest(on the inside) people to ever grace my tv. She can lose a few pounds but nobody can change the fact that you are a horrid, bitter bitch.
I need a death box too TT, lol. Was this a short Season? If so, I can see why – so boring and contrived. There were glimpses of “real-ness” with Emily’s wish for a daughter, Gina’s divorce and Kelly’s co-parenting come to mind. I think Shannon’s meltdowns are also “real.” Vicki was ultra fake this Season and Tamra remains one of my most hated HW’s.
The Reunion will be snooze.