From the title of this post alone, we all see where this is going. We saw a bit of a different Kate on the first few episodes of the season. Kate appeared to be less of a sourpuss. She has been encouraging of Caroline. This is totally out of character for Kate. Especially given the fact that Caroline is such an easy target who apparently had issues at home that distracting her from her third stew duties. Normally, Kate just throws the third stew into the laundry room and lets her out when the charter is over, or when she gets pissed off at the second stew and wants to complain to someone. Not this season. This season she was complimenting Caroline on odd little things. And frankly, it was kind of scary.
Then at the end of the last episode, the Kate we are more accustomed to appeared. Kate and her new GBF are laughing and gossiping about Caroline and Rhylee. They were not being particularly quiet because it was time for Kate’s “coffee” apparently. So this episode there will be some sort of confrontation. This will eventually lead to Kate running to Captain Lee and issue an ultimatum that Caroline be fired. And she will be. Probably not in this episode, but Caroline is doomed.
And so she has decided to bring up the rumors about Kate drinking on the charter. The allegations that Kate drinks wine out of a coffee up every night of charter circulates nearly ever season. Sometime people with nothing to lose say it outright, like Rocky and Leon did. Other seasons people from the show have mentioned it to me off the record. On the record I will say I believe Caroline.
I feel quite knowledgeable on this subject. And the facts are, despite these allegations, despite Kate’s on camera treatment of her stews and nasty comments about guests and her off camera issues with the legal system . She could probably strangle you with one hand while swilling tequila with the other and everyone will be on her side.
Oh sweetie. The consequences will be for you. The shit storm is coming for you! Why? Because everyone loves Captain Lee. I am one of those people. People think that Captain Lee is perfect. And he’s kind of close to it. But the one place he sort of veers way off what you would expect of him is Kate Chastain. Captain Lee is RIDE OR DIE with Kate Chastain. End of story. Point blank and the period.
And so is production. You know production, those are the people who film everything that goes on ON A BOAT. There are cameras everywhere. As you said, it’s not a secret to the people on the boat. But it’s highly unlikely that anything you say about Kate’s alleged wine consumption from coffee cups will ever air on the reunion. What will air is Kate and the second stew name calling. What will air is you crying. There will be a montage of that. And if as I expect, you get a ticket home and an ass chewing from Captain Lee, that will air A LOT. I suggest you go watch the reunion of the season that Rocky was on. She was beat up on that show and Captain Lee still talks poorly of her.
I know this seems highly unfair to you. I’m sure you have hurt feelings. Life is not fair. There are really only two smart moves for you here. You could have a family emergency and bow out of the reunion entirely and then do yourself a favor and don’t watch it. Or you could doll yourself up, go in there. Give a sob story about how many things you had going on in your life and you just wanted some time away from it all and then you realized you just weren’t emotionally up for it and apologize to Captain Lee and Kate for the inconvenience.
Sometimes you are the hammer and some times you are the nail. I promise at the reunion you will be the nail and there will be lots of hammers.
I was wondering how long it would take for the true Kate to make an appearance. I was liking her way too much this season. I feel sorry for Caroline, but this is a battle she is not going to win.
I’ve heard from other people on the show that she drinks all the time. Multiple people.
Yep. So have I. But those people all looked the other way except people who were treated badly like Rocky and Leon. It didn’t help their popularity AT ALL.
TT. You ARE insightful. For sure.
Honestly so what, what I mean is as long as captain Lee doesn’t give a hoot and she isn’t operating machinery also let’s face it the job gets done the guests are overjoyed oh well she’s on top of it with a lil shine on. Good for her.
Her job first and foremost is to keep the guests safe. Drinking on the job keeps her from doing that.
Boats are dangerous.
NBC has to pay huge premiums with insurance so if said employees are so inebriated safety team auditors along with their union would be involved. Piss tests and all. What we see is just a fraction of what is going on, plus unless I’m actually on this person’s shoulder it’s all hearsay.
That’s all
ROFLMAO
Why would Bravo be pee testing their employees? IT’S KIND OF ILLEGAL just ask Kim Richards.
Also, she is head bitch in charge of making sure toilets are scrubbed and beds are made and everyone gets drunk.
It’s not like she is driving the boat.
Most production companies now drug test all of their new hires. I’ve done quite a lot of game shows and they make you take a urine test where you have to lock up your purse and a staff member stands outside your stall while you pee.
It’s become a standard thing.
Bear- Are you trying to say that the cast are in a union? Which union would this be? not SAG. And 95% of reality shows are not even Union for crew and certainly not ones filmed abroad. However these were interesting made up facts I enjoyed residing
And a union piss testing? LMAO this is preposterous, illegal and clearly you have never been on lunch break at a set.
Kate isn’t an employee of NBC or Bravo. She is paid by the production company who owns the show and sells to Bravo.
Who is this mysterious union she is a member of that does urine tests?
What union are you speaking of? She isn’t a SAG member, is there some other mysterious reality show union?
She works for the production company not Bravo or NBC. Bravo purchases Below Deck from the production company.
Right, JoJo. Just ask Natalie Wood.
Gross
Ha, a new person to follow on Twitter 😀 I like this season, there is some crazy in it (Caroline included in my opinion), but it is much better than BelowDeck Med.
When Amy (2nd stew) a few seasons ago was asked the question (during the Rocky reunion) about Kate drinking on charter, she deflected. Agree on your post TT.
Yep because Amy is smarter than Caroline. I doubt she will be on the reunion.
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum,discretely swilled from a mug, either hammers or screws her stews into a dead man’s chest and they wind up in Davy Jones’s locker. Reality, t’is no myth.
The fact that she is even trying this shit shows how naive Caroline is. Love your take on it TT!
Did Caroline just delete her Twitter? 🙁
YEP
It’s there now. Different profile photo though.
Now the question is, Did the Kate fans troll her off or did Bravo have her account shutdown over NDA breeches?
Or she read what TT just posted, was face smacked and is headed for open water.
Looks like she was gone for about 6 days. She’s deleted the tweets above, but she’s been tweeting and replying to tweets about the show ever since. She seems to really be enjoying the attention she’s getting.
Lol ☕
Jamaican some coffee? I’ll buy the next round. Bottoms up.
I’ve lost a little respect for the Capt. that he lets his personal affection for Kate overrule his professional responsibility. One of the most important things for any supervisor (Kate), especially on a boat is to foster a fair working environment. And that she’s drinking and he knows it is really over the top.
She’s not drowning kittens in a bucket on the Lido deck in front of small children. She being a cunt on a reality show for money and getting her drink on and he has no control over Kate really as far as whether she stays on the show. Production loves them both.
He has many fine qualities. I try to think of Kate as his Achilles heel, She’s not going anywhere and they are better off as allies.
Seriously??! Who cares?? I think Kate is super professional and just wants to get the job done. The reason cap lee backs her is bc she dutifully does her job with little drama. Does she have favorites? Of course but how the hell can you be objective whilst living with all these idiots??? How about comparing her to that awful train wreck Hannah?? No one talks about her “coffee”. At least Kate can hold her liquor and mantian professionalism.
Are you seriously saying that he should fire her bc she drinks some wine during her 12 hour shift?? Have you ONCE ever seen Kate act inebriated while on the job?? I live in Florida and have many friends in the yachting industry and they ALL drink on shift INCLUDING the captain!!! Are you ALL REALLY that naive?? Jeezus
#HiKate
And yeah we have seen Kate seem inebriated many times. Like the time the kitchen caught on fire.
Oh you mean the time that Leon’s filthy, greasy pans (that he “stored” in the oven) burst into flames? And Rocky kept fanning the flames by repeatedly opening and closing the oven door? While Kate was upstairs operating the DVD player for the guests because Rocky couldn’t operate it?
Yeah, that was Kate’s fault. ?
Ha!
Was she really? Really? Take a look at the clip and then try to make a case. Lol. Inebriated is Hannah! Never once had Kate lit half a torch to that ones state of inebriation.
That’s funny, I also live in Florida with many friends in the industry and none of them drink on the job. The captain? That’s dangerous.
Jojo, maybe they aren’t really good friends cuz- they lying to you??♀️
Nope, they are good friends. Don’t drink on the job.
Ok lol. Montys marina. MIAMI beach jojo. Beers galore for captains. All crew dips in to the liquor cabinet.
I’m in Fort Lauderdale and Miami, is well, Miami. Doesn’t surprise me. I love Monty Greene! Know his entire family!
??? mean but funny.
??That was in response to Luka’s “not good friends…” comment. LmAo!
Oh! I am very familiar with Monty Trainer’s (this is the original name) when it really was just a watering hole for the boating set and not the over the top tourist trap it is today. I grew up in South Miami. There is one other famous boating set dive marina turned fancy. If either of you (@JoJoFLL or @Luka) correctly you will gain some credibility. Cause this friends of friends shit has to end.
It’s funny, but the picture of Kate with the coffee cup looks like Kim Richards. I did a double take. There’s a look drinkers get, kind of a pinched, thin lipped look. Both women look like drinkers. Wish I could be more articulate and descriptive.
This is WAY descriptive 4 paz. I know what you mean.
Thanks for getting my comment, SEKirks.
I actually love Kate but you’re spot on. She’s absolutely a drinker. It also shows on women worse than men. Women get a weathered look to them. That being said, she’s damn good at her job and I hope she knows her limits so as not to jeopardize anybody’s safety, including hers.
Right?! I agree that she is damn good at her job. I really don’t get people saying that she is lazy. Cap Lee wouldn’t stand for it. She is always on point with the themed parties and always makes sure that guests are looked after. Like the recent episode in which she made the deckhand dress up in Tahitian garb bc she said that charter needed to be more fun since they were all furs to their phones. They didn’t ask for it- she just thought it would make the charter more interesting and memorable for them. She’s proactive and on top of things. Not going out for smoke breaks all the time like the other one ?.
Lol . . . Bravo keeps us on the edge of our seats! Waiting . . . waiting for Caroline and Chandler to be fired. Waiting for the horrific accident! This has to be the BEST Below Deck season ever! Looks like “mutiny” on My Seanna? The deck crew has no focus/guidance and can’t seem to mesh with the interior crew to do the one job they are ALL hired to do; Safely entertain and make “magic” for the charter guests! Can’t wait to see what happens next . . . . .
What are the Deck Crew face wraps about? It’s not cold in Fiji! Mosquitos? Does anyone know?
OMFG. First, they moved the show to Tahiti. And now, this? I guess I’ll have to keep watching Below Deck this season. I wonder if Caroline will follow through on her (now deleted) threat, or if she somehow doesn’t appear on the reunion.
Caroline has a very inflated sense of her own importance. Plus, in reading about “cluster b personality disorder”, it appears to fit Caroline much more than Kate.
I am confused about one thing – Caroline tweets “your little secret would cost your career, considering it’s wildly illegal”. What’s illegal about having wine in a coffee cup, or drinking while on duty? Is she trying to hint that Kate does more than drink alcohol? Is there some maritime law that says Kate can’t drink on the yacht? I don’t think so.
Here’s what I think:
Caroline is unlikeable AND batsh1t crazy. I am not sure which is worse.
Kate is likeable and {maybe} a drunk.
Hmmm… which do you prefer to watch?
I choose Kate.
However, I do have a caveat — Kate really seems like a total no talent and kind of a degenerate and not nice person so I kinda go — ugh. I don’t think Kate is that entertaining. She seems super lazy. She seems lost and unhappy, not evolved at all and really phoning it in. Kate doesn’t seem like she’s got a positive grip on much. She isn’t vibing for me. It’s too bad it’s kind of sad. Like she thinks she’s a professional Biyatch on TV and that’s her life. I mean — ugh. It’s sad.
Caroline is horrible, I will watch just to see her thrown off the boat.
I hope Rhylee kicks someone’s ass.
Well the rumors are of more than just drinking on the job. The same rumors that circulate about Andy’s use of, ugh, shall we say intoxicating stimulants. If this is so, I find it hard to believe that Captain Lee would turn a blind eye as the potential liability for this behavior would have consequences. Think insurance and legal liability. Maritime law is very different from land lubber law. The captain is judge, jury and executioner out at sea.
Are people saying Kate drinks during her shift, or after she is off-duty, but still on charter? I looked up whether yachties are unionized, and there is LOTS of info on organizations and certifications. We know that there are SOME sort of maritime agency that tracks hours, skills, and rank — remember Eddie getting his boatswain stripe from Capt. Lee? — and there are international maritime laws, etc. But, as for Kate, she works her butt off and strives for perfection, handles her own problems so Capt. doesn’t babysit (until this season) and keeps the guests happy. Even when the crew goes out to party, Kate never gets “Hannah-wasted.”
I have a huge soft spot for Kate. Watching her this season has been a huge highlight for me. If she drinks or not she does always manage to maintain a level of grace & decorum.
Are you hitting the crack pipe tonight, Marc?