It’s a bad day for alleged and convicted sexual predators. Bill Cosby was sentenced to three to ten years in state prison today. Cosby was found guilty in April of three counts of aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2004. Cosby’s trial was the first major celebrity trial and conviction in the #MeToo era and conviction emboldened both the #MeToo and #TimesUp movements.
Judge Steven O’Neill handed down Bill Cosby’s sentence in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania court Tuesday afternoon at 2:10 pm. “This was a serious crime, Mr. Cosby this has all circled back to you. The day has come, the time has come.” He practically said “times up!” Then he told Andrea Constand, “I heard the very clear impact on your life.”
The prison system will determine the exact amount of time he will serve under Pennsylvania law. It’s a strange but old law in the state where the prison system will use an established formula for the prison to determine the exact time to be served.
It’s official! The judge has denied bail to Bill Cosby! He will be remanded to prison within moments. Andrea has left the courtroom happy. The courtroom is currently being emptied, presumably because Cosby is about to be handcuffed and the lawyers have asked that he not be handcuffed in the courtroom despite there being no cameras there. Cosby is now being taken to jail.
Bill Cosby walked out in handcuffs in front of the cameras JUST NOW!
UPDATE! One of Cosby’s publicists is claiming racism and sexism(??!!) and going off on a very bizarre rant that makes me question his sanity. He’s claiming falsified evidence, and all sorts or weird shit. He’s losing his mind on TV! The publicist yells at the crowd that anyone who wants to say anything negative about Mr. Cosby is a joke.
Camille Cosby’s publicist is also screaming about a tape recording being doctor and that false evidence was used to convict. She is claiming that the recording of the phone call that Andrea’s mother made was edited to make Cosby look bad.
I’m feeling a little sick and a lot of hatred toward this man, as I am sure many survivors of sexual abuse are today. Thoughts are with those who have been triggered by this lengthy trial, and hope that it brings us all some resolution. #metoo
Predators need to be housed away from the general population. This sentence sends that message, that and it’s never too late to come forward, if you’re a victim of sexual abuse.
At last!!
Thank God for some JUSTICE!! For every woman who has suffered from sexual abuse and assault, this is a victory! Fame and money should never protect a rapist/predator!!!!
It’s a shame that it took so long but every dog has his day . I’ll be back to play later, back to work
I can’t help but wonder about his wife or for that matter Kavanaugh’s wife, Weinstein’s wife, Sandusky’s wife. What did they know and how can women work together to stop this mess. As a survivor myself I know the damage. I also know that others knew and felt helpless to stop it.
Thats terrible. I’m so sorry for whatever you’ve been through, keep on surviving and thriving!
Who knows how much they knew. The whole Polanski scenario showed how people in that business will excuse away or turn a blind eye to whats in front of them. I hope this is the start of a long list of creepers and shitheads (men AND women) getting whats coming to them!
100% behind you ladies. I am a survivor as well. I think sadly almost everytime somone else knows and chooses to turn a blind eye, which is the why this movment needed to happen. And keep going as well.
I’m a man lol but yes to everything else you said! Too many people live in silence.
Oh I’m truely sorry GLH. Just the other day I made sure I didn’t make a gender reference ,and toady where’s head. No matter the gender I appreciated what you posted and am glad there’s people like you who understand.
Ach don’t be silly
No need to apologise and offence was taken what so ever Gracie! ?
*No offence was taken, lol
Thank you TT for making this such a comfortable site/forum to comment in.
Like others here I was a victim of sexual abuse, and in my case it happened in high school, as it allegedly happened to many of Kavanaugh’s accusers. No, I didn’t report it. And I am saddened to say the nature and severity of this group attack took it’s toll on me to the point I developed agoraphobia which in turn made me full on disabled.
Unlike some in this Administration I do not believe my attackers were children but found them to be young men who calculated they could get away with, at the very least, an attempted rape without consequence. They were right. Part of the reason I didn’t file charges were their defenders who, upon discovering what the young men did, defended their behavior to me, the victim. Everyone from their then girlfriend to their moms to their sisters turned on me, their accuser, to beg for my liency and to not report their “youthful ignorance and enthsiasm”.
I will be with all of you in spirit during the upcoming march.. The rest of you who choose not to believe these multiple accusers, believe what you want but as long as you choose to ignore ANY possibility of guilt and defend the innocence of a possible sexual predator understand your duplicity in women shaming and future such attacks.
Whatever Camille Crosby knows, she has been on a mission in the past several weeks prior to sentencing to have the judge removed. She has tried multiple avenues and has attempted to have ethics charges brought against him.
IMHO, this was a deliberate attempt to intimidate the judge and influence his sentencing decision.
Both Cosby and his wife display the kind of superiority that comes with immense wealth, and a belief that the rules do not apply to them.
Yes. Camille is just as bad as he is. I think she may be going senile. I’m not joking. I’m very serious.
She may be senile now, but not when this began. I suppose she MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN — in the beginning. But at some point, she must have known. She liked her money and her position as “Hollywood royalty.”
I keep thinking about all,those pudding commercials and how much money Jell-o lost from this, if any. Just from a sociological standpoint.
Fun Fact. TMZ got the menu for Cosby’s first meal, allegedly. Desert was vanilla pudding. Probably not name brand Jello, but we can pretend.
Weinstein had a contract marriage (he got the trophy wife, she got the funding for Marquesa and a baby daddy). By contract she turned her head, she at the very least knew.
At the very least, Georgina (according to dozens of firsthand witnesses) was present for disgusting verbal abuse and pushing and shoving of staff members, women being called stupid c**ts etc for small infractions like packing wrong or not foreseeing Harvey’s needs. She is either very mentally beaten down or complicit.
I don’t feel that way about Georgina. I based my opinion mostly on this article from Vogue in case you are interested in a different perspective.
https://www.vogue.com/article/georgina-chapman-life-after-harvey-weinstein
I haven’t heard much of anything about the things you are suggesting and who was present to make the accusations toward her, so I have basically only heard one side of the story
I sure wouldn’t want THAT as a baby daddy! Maybe the brain, but only the business acumen, not the sicko part.
I still think that Georgina, with those looks, could have had her pick of many wealthy men who were better-looking (well, that’s 90% of Earth’s population). So I ASS-U-MEd that he must have had some charm along with that money.
Um, Kavanaugh is not a rapist.
You don’t know that
Staceychris, you took the words right out of my mouth!
and Kate doesn’t know that he is. That was who my reply was meant for. Don’t lump him or his wife in with Cosby, Weinstein, etc. We will have to wait until the mid-terms are over to see…that’s the plan, right? Delay, delay, delay. Maybe the woman will remember some key details by then and maybe she can dig up someone, anyone, to back her story up.
“We are aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C. area during the early 1980s, during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs to allow a ‘train’ of men to subsequently gang rape them,” Avenatti wrote Sunday
“There are multiple witnesses that will corroborate these facts and each of them must be called to testify publicly.”
Seems they found their anyone.
Except they are not going to call any of those people.
The republicans in this thread, just like the senators who will vote on both sides of the aisle have already made up their minds before hearing testimony.
In this country this would cause them from being eliminated from the jury for a pickpocket trial, yet for a lifetime Supreme Court nominee, it’s just fine.
The number of women unwilling to hear her testimony before defaming her is disgusting.
That bothers me more than anything else.
J-A-I-L-O!
Hee hee..
How do you know? Enlighten us, please.
Uh, because he was sentenced to jail today?
The first thought that came to my mind was that he’d probably kill himself before he ever sets foot in prison. The judge, however, took that opportunity away from him because he’s sending him directly to prison. It’s about time someone is actually held accountable for what he did.
You are always sent directly to prison at sentencing unless you get no time.
Non violent offenders go home between verdict and sentencing.
Not so. And the defense asked for home arrest during the appeal and there was concern by the media that might happen during the break just after sentencing.
I believe the judge needs to find that there is a significant appealable issue and the defendant has a substantial chance of winning in order for him to be allowed to remain out of jail during the appeal. At least that is the rule in federal criminal cases.
I am glad the judge resoundly rejected the defense arguments and sent him to jail immediately.
They should have fined him heavily.
Hit him where it really works. With any time served and good behavior, he could be out in less than a year.
I hope she sues him in civil court for everything he has and starts a victims fund.
Under PA law, he must serve 80% of the minimum 3 year sentence before any consideration of good behavior etc can be considered — that is, 2 years, 8 months.
I just wish this had happened during The Cosby show when he was very actively drugging and raping multiple women. It’s a terrible shame he got away with this for Decades!! Now he is old, and legally blind. Better late than never . If only Janice Dickerson and other victims had not been afraid to report him, many other women could have been spared this horrid man’s sickness.
Cosby has not allowed any unbiased entity to determine if he is indeed “blind” but now the prison will be able to do that. They also wanted to give him a mental exam to see if he was… I forget the term… but basically violent and he refused that test as well.
Cosby isn’t the first defendant to claim some sort of illness should preclude a prison term. Bureaus of Prison take the position that they can handle any and all inmate illnesses. And the claimed disability is usually a transparent effort to avoid prison.
Did anyone notice that he doesn’t appear to look anyone in the eye? And his demeanor seemed flat. I would suspect he had taken anti-anxiety medicine, but there were reports that not only was he casual and laughing during court breaks, he was giving attitude when the court issued its opinion on sentencing — snorting when the judge mentioned the effect his crime had on Andrea and giving attitude when the requirements of his “predator” finding were explained to him.
I remember how self-important he became with his success. His behavior behind the scenes of his show was obnoxious. And his insistence on being called “Dr” Cosby when that title is not used for PhDs except in education settings.
I can only imagine what happens when the reality of this hits him. I hope he is not given celebrity status by the inmates. He doesn’t deserve any special treatment.
Fuck Cosby and fuck every other cunt that thinks they can take what they want and do what they want to a person when they see fit. I hope he dies behind bars and I hope this sends a message to every other scumbag out there that their time is coming. 3 years is a fucking joke tbh. Rape scars people for life.
I cannot believe there are still tv stations that air The Cosby Show. Andrea Constand and her family have been through Hell and back. I’m so happy for the possibility of peace of mind for them so they can move forward in their lives. They are good people who did not deserve what happened to them.
IKR? Roseanne gets canceled (not saying it shouldn’t have been), but what he DID is way more horrid than what she SAID.
I’ve been thinking about Rosanne. How is that other male comedian Louis C getting gigs again and she is exiled and relieved of the show she created. I’m not saying that what she did was right but I got my gender ears pricked up.
It will be interesting to see how Weinstein is handled.
What a day today has been! Finally some comeuppance!
This should be an official day, history has been made. Awesome that we live in a time when a successful women blogger can report it. Let’s keep the #TimesUp , # metoo progressive going! Hoping one day we all can say #gotjustice.
Another victory is that the judge declared Cosby a Sexually Violent Predator. That right there meant no bail. It also means he has monthly counseling, must alert police anywhere he goes outside of Montgomery County PA for the rest of his life.
My favorite part is that he will now be remembered in history as “Sexually Violent Predator Bill Cosby”
I was just commenting about this earlier. I thought I heard they could not give him the mental test for this at some point because he didn’t have to submit to it. Then I thought they said he would have to submit to it now…
I’m really braindead from this day so I am probably not making any sense.
What about Bill Clinton?
What about him?
How can you even ask that with the crap he did? He’s no different than the other degenerates.
I guess Kavanaugh isn’t either, considering what he is accused of…
Difference in fact and an accusation
Oh, we’re playing that game. Ok, what about Trump? Facts are facts after all.
Ps. I think Clinton is a POS too.
Bill Clinton did not rape anyone. Bill Clinton cheated on his wife. That is his only crime. And we don’t charge people with “cheating on your spouse”
There are several women who would correct you on this statement. At least four have come forward…
Juanita Broaddrick accused Clinton of raping her in 1978; Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without consent in 1993; Leslie Millwee accused Clinton of sexually assaulting her in 1980; and Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 as well as sexually harassing her.
Thank you TT
Holy shit I literally had nooo idea. Damnit I wanted to believe he just screwed up one time.
Thank you! Clinton turned Monica Lewinsky’s entire life into a circus sideshow!
Clinton is a sexual predator. Fortunately, he’s not up for a SC appointment and is not running for office. What is your point? Where’s the relevance? Troll.
Thank you, TT. F — Cosby & his wife…F— Weinstein & his wife. And F— Clinton & his wife. Trump & his wife too. Looks like the same sentiments for Kavanaugh. Pisses me off when someone defends a effing rapist and his wife for effing political party bs. Shame on them that do.
what the hell does bill cosby’s sentencing have to do with kavanaugh? did you also know christine blowser bush is buddies with george soros.
I agree Squirrel. I don’t believe for one second Kavanaugh is guilty.
Ugh. I have to leave this thread. It’s starting to stink in here.
Of course it is Kathrine, someone has a different opinion than you do.
Oh, Brenda. I have no problem with differing opinions that are informed and educated. You are just trolling.
The irony of you boasting about NOT BELIEVING a victim in a thread celebrating THE TRUTH isn’t lost on anyone. You call his victim a LIAR because his being on the bench benefits YOU. You’re the reason Cosby got away with this for so long. As long as it lines her pockets, Brenda doesn’t care who gets hurt. Times up for you too, Brenda. #metoo
Well put, LC. Anyone in DC area, we are gathering at 12:30 at the Capitol Reflecting Pool. Women Say We Can’t Go Back.
Is that tomorrow and can I tweet this out?
Thursday. Yes you CAN. https://www.facebook.com/womensmarchonwash/
I hope to get arrested. 😉
I posted a link to the march and it is in moderation, but yes tweet it. It’s Thursday in support of #BelieveSurvivors.
Thanks for the info, Katherine.
Welcome girlfriend. Hope to see you there.
Know that there are THOUSANDS of us who stand beside you in spirit, You don’t need to get arrested, we get it.
Line my pockets? LoL. I think every person who does the things some of these men have done should be in prison. I also think false accusations are horrible too. Of course you believe her. Not one split second have you thought it could be false.I’m not arguing with you it’s useless. You made up your mind and can only see your opinion. Like I said earlier why is Bill Clinton not in prison? I guess you think what he did is ok??? Double standards.
GFY, Brenda.
Oh Fuck Off Brenda. It’s people like you that prevent women from coming forward in the first place. Take several seats.
Ok, I’ll bite. Did you ever use that same line of thinking to question whether Clinton’s, Cosby’s, Weinstein’s, Ravanel’s, etc attackers are being truthful? I’m guessing not. There’s nothing wrong with saving opinion on a case until the legal process has taken it’s course and all the evidence has come to light. You’re not required to automatically hate on a man or woman just because they’ve been accused of something. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. That being said, in no way is it appropriate to call the accuser an out and out liar without a shred of evidence to back that shit up and cherry picking who you want to believe based on their political affiliation is, for lack of a better word, retarded.
I am not disagreeing with you…but that same logic should be applied to both Clinton and Trump. The political party allegiance is BS. Victims deserve the support, not these scum politicians.
I agree, beware. Clinton was scum. He’s not playing right now. Irrelevant.
Oh, it matters. I don’t give a rip if he is in office or not…speeches, books…he and HC are still raking in the bucks and treated as flipping American royalty in many circles…..she just ran for president, right? And could run again, who knows. She is to just as f—– guilty as he is…they’re still playing, as you say.
And it ain’t irrelevant to his victims. He gets no dang pass, same as Kavanaugh shouldn’t.
Yea, Hillary didn’t do it. She just stayed with a man who did. Next.
Right, Hillary didn’t do it…she just, among other bs, paid detectives to dig up dirt on Bill’s accusers. What FBS. Next indeed. F anyone who supports her or any wife who knows, as she clearly does, that hubs is an abuser of women. And then had the f—— nerve to say their all about #MeToo. Hypocritical bs.
Mrs. Kavanaugh wore black on Monday. So sad for her. #Hillary2
this is small victory for all the others who were drugged, raped, sexually and mentally abused by this violent sexual predator!!! some justice finally!!! the number of women he drugged and raped is unbelievable — i believe 50 plus have come forward — there are probably many more.
Fuck that hump. Glad he’s going to jail. Motherfucker.
Oh and Katherine, I’m not trolling. I just have a different opinion than you
I actually want to see justice and truth for everyone. I’m glad Cosby is finally getting his due. I just think all the other scum should too.
I responded to your differing opinion statement already, Brenda. Take my name out of your foul mouth. Thank you We are done here.
Yeah we are done, obviously you are in high school and have no clue on how to have an adult conversation lol
Wrong again. Batting zero so far, Brenda.
Brenda, If your intention was to have intelligent discourse with someone here about the Kavanaugh nomination, coming in with the statement “I agree Squirrel. I don’t believe for one second Kavanaugh is guilty.” was neither mature or inviting for others to see your view.
Any time you are on a forum that is majority female, you should assume that many of them have been victims of sexual abuse. Those of us that have lived the experience often recognize signs that others do not. In addition, the accusers have not yet been heard from, the committee seems to be trying to dissuade and exclude their testimony and some of us have seen this play out before with Anita Hill.
Your flippant comments is flippant and hurtful to survivors and frankly nauseating when the comments come from women. Then again, we still have women who have Trump as their Twitter banner and love him despite his sexual predator ways and constant gross and derogatory toward women and minorities and third world countries. It saddens us that even some women do not support victims of male sexual predators. Even still it is something we hope those people never have to experience it in order to have compassion.
First I want to apologize to anyone that my comments hurt. I absolutely didn’t mean to hurt anyone. I guess I just try to see both sides of a situation. What if Kavanaugh isn’t guilty? What a horrible thing for him and his family. Never having gone through some of the horrible things others have, I can’t say how I would feel. Please don’t think I have no compassion for everyone, because I do. Do you see how I was misjudged because of insensitive comments I made out of not thinking? Nothing I said was meant to hurt anyone but obviously it did and I do apologize. None of this should be about politics at all. These are peoples lives and the truth needs to come out. Thank you for putting me in my place TT, and again I am sorry if my comments hurt anyone. I’m really not a mean person.
Good Morning, Brenda! I think this particular situation has a lot of people raw. For women who have been on the receiving end it is a bit difficult to see people and especially women trying to determine what it is that is “bad enough” to get a man fired from a job or remove him from consideration for a job.
It seems like the public is just trying to weigh in on whether or not activities from his teenage years are “bad enough” to keep him from serving in the highest judiciary position in the country.
As survivors of sexual assaults we would feel a lot safer if the judges that make it to the supreme court were nine people who didn’t have inappropriate sexual allegations in their history. We already have Clarence Thomas in such a position and it seems like we could find nine people that the entire country could view as being of good moral character and advocates for women.
Many of us are already uncomfortable that the highest office of the executive branch is currently held by someone who objectifies women. We would simply like it if we could find in this country nine or ten people who have not objectified women in their lifetime to hold these important offices.
Instead, we have politicians from all political parties who are willing to overlook the character of the candidates to move along a political agenda.
At the very least we would like a clear inventory of the character of these candidate to be taken rather than simple pushing them through the process withhout carefully vetting them.
Those of us who have been victimized by men find this to be the most important part of the process. Those of us who have not been victimized are more focused on the political outcome of the who ends up in office (which is also very important,)
It seems logical enough to us to fully at least fully hear out ANYONE who has had experiences with these candidates and to fully vet the nominees.
Brett Kavanaugh was employed by Ken Starr in the investigation of Bill Clinton at that time felt very strongly that he should be fully investigated about his allegations.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kavanaugh-clinton-questions-713428/
So it seems odd that he is so hostile now that he is the person being vetted.
So Brenda, I think you are doing a great job of having the type of open dialogue that helps us understand each other here.
And HEY, look at us not calling each other cuntsatchels or retards!
This whole listening to each other crap may be worth exploring.
Fuck me. I blame the mountain waddling for my clear thoughts and civil discourse.
xo
~tt
Well said!
Ahhhh. This was lovely. Both of you. TT outlined the varying responses and motivations very well. My apologies for telling you to GFY, Brenda. This is a definite trigger for many of us. Quite frankly, it’s been hellish.
Now with this third victim, we know a bit more. She is calling for an FBI investigation. I think that’s a good idea.
If Kavanaugh doesn’t bow out today, I will be marching for ALL of us tomorrow who are there in spirit, if not in body.
One more thing: Be sure to drop the soap Cosby!
March in good health! I was born in D.C. but that was long ago and far away.
Thank you TT and Katherine. Now I’ve gone and gotten all teary-eyed. I do accept your apology Katherine and I would like to apologize to everyone again. Sometimes I don’t think before I speak. To be truthful most times I just open my mouth and s*** rolls out. My Mother used to tell me all the time, “Brenda that mouth is going to get you in trouble.” I just wanted to be fair to all involved and it came out wrong. I really have no political agenda. I think anyone guilty should have to pay or if not guilty be exonerated. XoXo
Thank you to all of you…I learned something from this dialog today, its better to get many sides of the story before forming an opinion. TT your knowledge of these scandals enlightened me, you do go “deep”! You are a smart lady, you gave me some insight today. I am part of #metoo, I know evil exists, male and female, thats the world we live in. Be cautious, be aware, stay informed.
Yay! (I no longer say “woo hoo”). Rodney King would be so proud to see us all getting along! Me too.
Brenda, you are totally at the right place. My mama said that to me all the time. And she was right. Come sit next to me…. 🙂
I sure will..scooch over TT LOL
I hardly recognize the old man in the above photo. We were ALL raised on the Bill Cosby Show. Jello “pudding faces” were regular entertainment at our dinner table. He was a beloved icon. I don’t even know what to say except that this can never be allowed to happen again. If just one person can find the courage to speak up/stand up, say something, we can stop these terrible crimes against women by self indulgent/entitled men. We are better than this!
The only good thing to come out of this is that women have come together and found strength and power in numbers. It is saddening that there are so few role models for young men when you’ve got Presidents, athletes, priests, actors and even family members enacting such horrible crimes against women. Some of which still holding their posts regardless of the terrible things they’ve said and done. The only message that sends is if you’re very rich and very powerful you’re untouchable.
I would just like to point out that in my personal and private conversations with survivors during this time that it is important to acknowledge and remember that there are male survivors of sexual abuse that are also suffering and struggling with reliving painful experiences during this time of reckoning for some sexual predators.
Excellent point! I was a rape crisis counselor for five plus years, working the hotline from midnight to 8am Saturdays and Sundays (I was working the other days) and co- facilitating sexual assault support groups (we did 8 week closed groups) and accompanying women for rape exams (we had make advocates as well as female and the called or client could choose the gender of their supporters. Yes we had lesbian advocates and worked with other agencies to support everyone.
The guys have a harder time reporting, talking about and processing sexual assault at any age.
And it should be remembered that all offenders are not male, not all white, not all straight.
The group that got their hands on me were make and female. Their goals were to cause disdiciation, harm, terrufy, torture, threaten and silence kids.
So me too has to include all and potential offenders can be anyone.
It all sucks.