Y’all, I have been to the mountaintop (see comments) and my weave is exhausted. Other than almost dying on a mountain and being eaten by deer (and probably Banjo) I’ve only managed to put up the RHOOC mid-season trailer. If you haven’t seen it yet, I highly recommend it.
Kelly and Tamra got to Tamra’s doctor’s appointment and Tamra still doesn’t realize that her drunk ass was dead wrong for attacking Emily’s husband. Tamra tries to tell her that Emily is a great girl but Kelly just wants to trash Shane more. You know Shane, the guy who was hanging back out of camera shot minding his own business when her drunk ass showed up spewing crap at Steve.
Kelly has a pattern. She talks about other people’s men as if she is really good at picking men for herself. She tells Tamra that Steve left Vicki a year ago and moved in with his mother. She says she was there for her like a supportive friend. Or she was there gathering ammo to attack Vicki with at this golden moment in time. Tamra thought Steve had a house and Kelly says Vicki lies about that because he sold it. So she lied about him having a house, or he did have a house that he sold because he moved in with Vicki? Which is it Kelly?
Gina and Emily take their kids on a wagon ride through a big farm. It’s strawberry picking season. Gina doesn’t like Shannon. I believe she is consistent with this opinion every since she met her.
Vicki and Tamra go to a vineyard to taste wine for an Italian dinner party for the girls. They both arrive wearing the same sandals. Well, Tamra only wears one. Vicki says that she and Steve are super in love. Wherever they are (it looks like more of a restaurant) they are on a gorgeous lake. Where are they, my OCers? Vicki says she and Steve did break up for a few weeks last year when she was moving into her new Coto offices and was busy all the time. Since his place was rented, he went to stay with his mom for a while. Vicki says Kelly “needs to shut her fatass mouth.”
Tamra says the reason Kelly is pissed at Vicki is because she has told people she left Michael and the divorce decision was mutual. Vicki says that Michael wanted to stay married to Kelly. Vicki says that Kelly was constantly mean to Michael. That seems to be what we saw in previous seasons.
Vicki and Tamra are confused by Kelly’s divorce. They think something must have happened but she is not coping to anything.
Gina and Kelly got to walk some stairs. I did rocky stairs all damn day, did I mention that, because I’m still dying and just watching this makes my legs hurt more. They are walking even slower than I did and they are going down the stairs. Then they just stop in the middle to chat. It’s as if they can’t chat and walk. Kelly doesn’t understand Gina’s divorce either. Why do the other wives need to know all the details?
Vicki’s friend and chef Domenico comes to Vicki’s to cook Italian for the ladies and give them a cooking lesson. Shannon stops to pick up Kelly for the dinner and we get to see her “love shack.” It looks like it is a block off the beach with ocean views. Shane is left to handle dinner with the kids.
Shannon hasn’t been to Vicki’s in two years or more. Emily asks Kelly is she will stop by and apologize to Shane and shockingly, she says yes. Kelly sounded just like Ramona in her talking head. Kelly is the west coast apologizer. None of these women know how to cook.
Kelly is pissed at Vicki. Why? Kelly is the one trash talking Steve. How is she mad at Vicki for her own trash talking. Vicki happens upon Kelly trashing Steve to Tamra, again! Vicki manages to ignore it and attempt to keep the party moving along and everyone happy. But Kelly seems to be coming for Tamra for “talking shit.” Kelly is the only one talking shit on this episode so far.
Once everyone gets to the dinner table, Gina is the target. Everyone is pissed at her for getting a divorce before she and her husband completely despise each other. Again, why is this their business? Emily thinks she won’t have a painful divorce. This seems to enraged the divorced women. Emily is certain that money won’t be an issue. Everyone screams at Gina. Then Vicki says she promised God to stay married. Um, How many times has Vicki been divorced? Then Gina blurts out that she doesn’t believe in God and Vicki screeches at Emily about not having a moral compass. Again, is Vicki the gold standard for having a moral compass? Or Tamra? Or Jesus Jugs? The Christian hypocrisy is mind-blowing here!
Gina says that she believes in a higher power, a God. She says she believes in herself. Vicki basically says that Gina is going to hell. Even Kelly says that Vicki is wrong for that. Vicki says that no one with want to date her with three children. Shannon tries to refute that but Gina has had enough and leaves the table. Vicki is shocked that Gina is leaving. She doesn’t even consider it was something she said. She continues to talk shit about her as she is leaving. Vicki says he must be having an affair.
SO WHAT IF HE IS? CLEARLY SHE DOES NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? WHY ANTAGONIZE A WOMAN WHOSE MARRIAGE IS ENDING? Especially since the whole argument from these bitches is how awful divorce is. Why are they so dead set on making her as miserable as possible and telling her she is making a mistake?
Tamra is the voice of reason (read that again!) who says, “It’s really none of our business. Gina goes to the bathroom to cry and calls her husband for support. Emily goes to check on Gina. She gets her back to the table. Gina says that she doesn’t like to share her hurt and at the same time, she knows that she is making the right decision and it’s not the same situation they have been in.
Lastly, we see Emily and Shane and the kids hanging out. They seem very happy together. Kelly stops by with Jolie and a present for Shane. It’s a bowl of succulents because roses die and succulents live forever. Emily orchestrates the apology while the girls go play. Kelly starts by making excuses. She’s going through a bad divorce and she was a bit sensitive. Shane still didn’t know what he said to piss her off. Kelly claims not to remember what she said and would need a court reporter to have it read back. Shane points out that would not go in her favor. She says whatever he said, that she can’t remember pissed her off because she wasn’t talking to him. It’s clear her recollection of events that night is mostly blacked out by her drinking. The only thing she remembers is that he pointed out how drunk she was. Shane points out that if you want to confront someone for what they said to upset you, you might want to explain what was said. He says that is just common sense. This pisses her off. The “apology” is getting even more awkward.
In her talking head she says she has two options here. Either be nice to Shane or call him a little bitch again. Wait, I thought she didn’t remember doing any of that. So she tries to change the subject and asks what they are doing today. Shane, the sarcasm guy, says, “Probably talk trash about you after you leave.” The correct response is.”Okay then, let me go so you can get on that.” Then get your kid and go. But Kelly realizes he’s just messing with her and somehow it all works out.
I wonder what Heather Dubrow would have had to say about Jesus and moral compasses. Does Vicki think all Jews are going to Hell?
Yes, she does
No need to be divisive about Christians and Jews. Vicki and everyone else was talking about God, not Jesus.
ITA. Jesus name never came up. How did the Jews get into the conversation?
Jesus is the son (messenger) God sent down from Heaven to provide mankind a pathway to Salvation. He is one & the same as God from Christianity’s perspective. You know the Holy Trinity and all that?
I’m assuming Vicki’s clumsy point was that Gina as a Catholic was married in a church before God with the promise of “for better or for worse” and to have her have such a cavalier attitude about ending the marriage with small children involved while professing he’s her best friend and they’re still having sex and everything’s good except for some vague reason that they’re no longer good together could lead one to believe that her morals or at least her philosophy of marriage is rather unmoored.
The last holy trinity I had was with 2 bears I met at a leather night. Good times.
Vicki’s been divorced, cheated on her spouse she made vows with ‘before god’, had relations out of wedlock, treats the 7 deadly sins as a guidebook on how to live life, takes the lords name in vain constantly, has taken advantage of ill people for her own gain… the list could go on and on. Shes a hypocrite and has literally no room to manoeuvre in the area of morals.
Tee hee! 😀
Yes. But YOU were with MULTIPLE PARTNERS (this must be screamed) and she never was. So that must mean you are damned for eternity and she is in line for sainthood! (In case you can’t “hear” my tone, this is a joke. I appreciate your comments and your humor.)
Aw Nanette!
It’s all good, white gowns and wings never suited me anyway ha.
Couldn’t agree with you more GLH???
GLH, huh? I’m calling you GLoryHoly from now on… you naughty boy. 🙂
Very much know the Holy Trinity and no other book in the bible explains the Incarnation of Jesus Christ better John 1:1-14.
I totally agree with you about Vicki. She was so out of line. As for Gina? If she didn’t want people commenting on her debunked marriage, why tell them or feel the need to explain? She got the story line she wanted to stay relevant.
This! I don’t think Vicki’s wrong for giving her opinion – it’s what the shows about. Just don’t think she has any moral highground, at all. Also can’t stand people who hide behind being ‘a good Christian’ to cast judgement down on others when their dirty laundry is practically a biohazard lol.
Christianity’s position is that the only way to Heaven is by accepting Jesus Christ as one’s only savior. So Vicki and every one who professes to be a Christian accepts that Jews will not get into Heaven.
Hey Zalo, I’m a Christian. I do not accept that Jews will not get into Heaven. Christians don’t all fit into one box anymore than Jews do.
I agree. 🙂
Amen
I am a believer of Jesus Christ and I certainly doesn’t believe that. I don’t have a say on who is in and who is out. It is funny that most people, who believe they are in, just may be the very ones cast into the lake of fire. Something to think about.
Don’t drag us into this mishegas!
In Christianity. Jews have a special place as being considered the first “Chosen Ones” to enter the kingdom of Heaven.
I think Gina has fallen in love with the LA life. Her husband was transferred there, his job transferred him again and she didn’t want to leave. I see her as caring for her husband but loving LA more. It will be interesting to see how it works out for her financially.
I don’t know… not much to love there versus having family around.
Her husband is in LA and has an apartment there that she’s never been to. She’s in Orange County. I don’t think it’s about loving LA more than her husband since its him that lives there not her.
Round of applause to Tamara for making it up that mountain!! I myself am trying to get back on a health kick too. Diet’s been okay, but you inspired me to “get physical” again. Anyways, finally finished a full episode of this season since the first. Kinda starting to warm up towards Emily and Gina. Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see why Shane’s supposedly so bad. Also, I see a lot of she said, she said that doesn’t really go anywhere. And 100% find it no one’s business to get involved in another’s choice regarding marriage or religion. Personally I choose to use my spiritually to enlighten myself, not impose “wisdom” on to others. But nice that Gina got to be heard and talk some.And surprised Emily got Kelly to mend fences per say so quick.
No kidding. I hate that some people think it’s moral to pass judgment on others who have different spiritual or religious beliefs. How is that behaviour Christian?
Well Gina…ya kind of make it everyone’s business when you sign up for a reality show when your marriage is in the crapper and choose to file while filming is going on #NeededAStoryline. She needs to dial it back a notch with Shannon and actually listen to her. Shannon wanted an amicable divorce, but when it came to the financial end, David lost his shit and became completely unhinged. Gina should use Shannon as a cautionary tale.
Except that David is an abusive control freak. I think the spouses’s emotional health makes an impact on how the divorce goes. Gina’s hisband seems a bit happier than David.
@Kristen: Oh, I agree, David is/was a controlling and at least verbally abusive d-bag. Gina is kidding herself if she thinks it will be sunshine and lollipops when the financials are raked over. She has not reached that 10 year sweet spot.
Financially, she seems on the lower end of a RHOC. Definitely not Lydia or Heather money, but not Lynne Curtain (lack of) money either. Plus, splitting custody while daddy is in LA and mom for some reason is glued to Orange County and away from family will be tricky.
I agree, JrLeaguer. Money issues seem to bring out the worst in people. And all it takes is for one of them to bring the whole amicable thing down. It may be that they have no or little equity in their house (I read conflicting stories about whether or not they are selling it). But as Vicki said — how will Gina continue to support herself? She has no job and doesn’t seem to have had a career or a profession.) I hope the husband makes lots of money to support her and the children. And doesn’t grow to resent it when another woman comes along (assuming one hasn’t already).
How do we know if Gina’s husband is much happier? I never met him him the show, heck I’ve never even been to his apartment :)… all we know about him is what Gina wants us to know and it’s obvious to me that there is a hell of a lot more going on than what she wants to share. That’s okay, but she really should at least listen, especially to Shannon.
I attended Vicki’s (and Tamara’s church) for years while I lived there. Great concept, super pastor, way outgrew itself with 35,000 and counting. Vicki reminds me of some of the parishioners who started attending after Saddleback got popular. That is, it became a gateway to promote not just giving back to the community but also a way to promote one’s self, and one’s self interests.
FOr instance, had Vicki been genuinely concerned about Gina, she could have steered her to some excellent courses the Church offers for non members and members alike who are going through divorces. So like Vicki though to bully Gina instead of trying to be a helpful Christian. Not surprised, but very sad when Gina could have used encouragement instead.
I just have to say that I love Shane! I love his snark and sarcasm so much. He was cracking me up. I really like Emily also, she seems so down to earth. So now that Tamra and Vickie are back together that means Shannon is out as Tamras bff. I cannot stand Tamra, she is a nasty human being. Kelly needs to stop drinking.
Distorting every line.
I really like Shane too! He is the kind of person that I would enjoy going back and forth with. I am a bit sarcastic myself and it took me awhile before I realized that others do not get it when I am joking around, so I usually have to censor myself and then I feel as though no one knows the “real” me.
Oh woe is me!!
It’s Lake Mission Viejo..Tamara
In answer to your question about what lake it is Tamara, that’s Lake Mission Viejo. It’s man made, lots of rats and not all that.
Coming from a big East Coast city, I am always surprised to hear about rats in places like that in CA.
We have plenty of rats in OC unfortunately. And Christian hypocrisy. But the weather is nice! ?
Norwegian roof rats are an ongoing problem in the hillside communities of CA. Like any animal they gravitate towards water sources. Lake Mission Viejo is a natural draw for them but aggressive vector control keeps these variants from over running the Lake. But it’s a constant battle.
It’s getting hard to watch this mess. It’s also difficult to say anything positive about any of them. Why would would anybody do business with Vicki…. I’ve never used the phrase”Hot Garbage” and hopefully I’ll never use it again, but that’s what comes to mind when I hear Kelly. I do have one question for you “guys”. How did Shannon end up with such wonderful kids?
Both parents have always been very hands on consistently with the girls. Say what you will about David but he continues to drive the girls to school. Shannon has always been a stay at home Mom. Shannon is a supporter and very involved with their church (Mariner’s). The older daughter was just on a Mission trip with the church. The twins are involved activities and sports which helps keep them grounded.
I do give them credit for the kids. That’s why I’m reluctant to believe what I see about Shannon, IMO, her behavior doesn’t make her look very good. I always liked David, please don’t hate me ladies.
Psst! I like David too! 🙂
I like hearing these good things about the kids, and their continued strong presence in the kids’ lives.
The Beador girls are my very favorite reality kids. Along with Stassi’s brother Nikolai.
So Vicki thinks Gina is hell bound because she doesn’t necessarily believe in the same god that Vicki does, but has no problem scamming people into buying cancer insurance while claiming she’s running a cancer charity? Disgusting.
@Jen: Well said.
Haven’t watched yet but I’m so confused why Gina CHOSE to go on this show beginning a divorce. I find the whole situation uncomfortable, wish was private, and can’t blame the other women for keeping her going for a storyline. Its all so weird.
(And I want to see this guy, maybe at one episode?)
Thank you for expressing what I’ve been observing. For some reason, I don’t like Gina. As real as she says she is, she comes across as fake and methodical.
I understand Gina, they married young and, despite the children, are in different places in their lives and probably want different things. It happens, some people just grow apart as lovers but can remain friends (with the occasional booty call it seems).
How young could she have been? She’s in her 40’s isn’t she?
Early 30s I think…. She said they were childhood sweethearts
She told Vicki she is 33, same as Brianna
I was thinking they weren’t that young either. She is 33 and they have been married 7 years. It’s not like they were 18 when they married.
It seems very doubtful that Shannon would ever warm up to Gina. This type of attitude is not one that she would want her daughter’s to emulate.
/I want to know about the previews for next week. After Shannon walks away because she is a shitty friend, Tamara is yelling at what looked like a beaten up Vicki. What’s going on?
I think its just Vickie after getting a neck lift. I do think Gina’s divorve doesnt make practical sense. I dont think theres anything wrong with encouraging caution, suggesting counseling, telling someone the grass isnt allways greener. But it needs to be done with respect, and the realization that you dont know everything, and that if the person is still hell bent, dont invest yourself. Youre wasting your time and gonna piss them off in the process. I really think though, that women doing this type of thing for no good reason, is part of why many men dont want marriage anymore, and to risk all theyve worked for. I have known women who dumped husbands or had affairs, just so they can say ” I have a new life now”. And, they are so proud of that. Personally, I think if you need a new life every five years, marriage isnt for you. Vickie is too sanctimonious though, given her history.
I can’t keep the new people and their family members straight. I either need to start watching, or give up completely…..anyone have any suggestions? Should I just shitcan this show altogether, or actually try to watch it and figure out who is who now with the newbies?
That’s why this site is so great. I read Tamara first and then watch the show using the Fast Forward feature,
it really helps for RHONY. Tamara really takes one for the team putting up with those insufferable narcissist.
I gave it up last season when I figured out the awful Kelly wasn’t going away. I’m glad I did! I can enjoy TT’s recaps but not hate myself in the morning, lol.
I will leave aside Vicki’s comment, because this really derailed the discussion about the divorce.
My observation about the women’s reaction to Gina’s divorce news is that they were trying to protect her from a very tough path. At least four of those women have been divorced or were going through one: Vicki, Tamra, Kelly and Shannon. Not a single one had an easy time in the divorce process or in the aftermath. They were *trying* to give her wise counsel. We viewers haven’t had the opportunity to see Gina’s husband on the show, so it’s hard for us to assess at all what is really happening. No idea what it’s like for the cast members. When several of one’s peers have had miserable divorce experiences, it behooves one to listen attentively to their advice.
I suspect that Gina is sugar coating the situation for her cast mates and the viewers, probably to protect her family. In my experience, “grew apart” = someone is cheating, and someone else is hurting like hell. If Gina and/or her husband is having an affair, and if they are truly over their marriage, then that’s great for her and her soon to be ex. I hope they can keep it amicable.
Most importantly of all, where are Gina’s yoga pants from during her convo with Kelly on the stairs???? I have to know lol Seriously though, I can’t find em anywhere!!