I’m under the weather today and have some homemade chicken soup on the stove hoping it will fix whatever my problem is. Meanwhile a couple of things are going on with Bethenny Frankel and the first one is quite controversial.
Today her SkinnyGirl line of jeans came out. As someone who is not skinny and hates skinny jeans on anyone other that Steven Tyler, I can’t fathom why she bothered to make these jeans in any size above four in the first place. But she did. Because fat chicks need skinny girl jeans too, I suppose. In theory.
But what fat girls do not need is to pay nearly twice as much of the same stupid jeans. This is my opinion and one Bethenny doesn’t agree with. So she has priced the plus sized jeans at nearly double the price. I’m going to guess that clothing is not a line that Bethenny needs to expand her. Anorexic women in NYC do not wear the same style of jeans that fat chicks in Atlanta wear. We probably couldn’t get our big fat feet through the skinny foot hole.
UPDATED: Apparently, it was an error on the website and the fat jeans should have been $10 more than the skinny jeans. Perhaps someone read a 7 as a 1. I still don’t think it should be legal to make plus sized clothes more expensive. Yet, it happens all the time.
I predict that once the plus sized jeans do not sell, that the prices will continually be drastically sliced and the plus size jeans still will not sell.
I thought Bethenny was smarted than this.
In other news, Bethenny has been pushing herself to get out and keep pushing through lately. She’s been going to yoga and going waterskiing, and enjoying the beach with Bryn.
And she is slowly starting to film with RHONY. My sources say that primary filming has not started yet but there are a few things being filmed while the story arcs are hashed out. Thus Tinsley, Sonja, Ramona and Dorinda going to a fashion show for NYFW and a NYFW party/event.
Bethenny has done her first filming with Luann and Barbara Kavouit in an intimate setting. She posted a hilarious photo of Luann drying her wet crotch in front of a fireplace labeled #FireCrotch and tagged Barbara on the post.
I can’t believe it is already time to start filming again…
Sonja has posted a video on her Instagram of Tinsley trying to park a Bentley. It’s quite hilarious. Sonja and Lu are also performing tonight which will probably be filmed
Not sure why she thinks she can offer me anything in clothes I can’t get somewhere else, cheaper. I understood that by choosing from her drink and food lines I could shave a few calories off here and there. But jeans, what’s her unique offering? Unless wearing her size 14W jeans would somehow make me look and feel skinnier, I’m not going there. Good luck to ya’ Bethenny because I’m a fan otherwise but not sure who this line is appealing to.
So hot where I live still, hard to believe filming of anything new is already taking place.
I do not understand the sizing at all. 32 jumps to 14w. Price point is pretty high for the masses. Like you, TT, I thought that she was smarter than that. #fail
I spent a couple weeks in Seattle several years ago when I was still a normalish size. The jeans in the stores I shopped in there had jeans by waist sizes too. That is what appears to be happening in the normal sized jeans.
I plugged in the info that’s required and the algorithm determined my size. Didn’t foster confidence on my part so I’m not a customer for many reasons. One needs to try on this kind of product, IMHO. Hate on-line returns. BTW, I lived in the Seattle area too (Edmonds).
What the? I just moved to Vegas from Edmonds a few years ago. Are you stalking me? LMAO
Haha! That’s funny Adonait. I lived in Edmonds from ‘95 to ‘99.
Oh! So I am stalking you! 😀
Are you sure theybwerent using European sizing? 24, 26, etc. Is usually European sizing unless you are looking at wranglers or levis type jeans
Size 27 is a 4. And so on (28=6, 29=8, 30=10…). I lost 50 pounds “recently” as a result of a medical nightmare and have discovered the joys of wearing 4/27 pants. But I would NOT pay that much for jeans when many other brands are available for much more reasonable prices.
30=10, 31=12, 32=14, then jumps to “plus”. A 14w is roomier in the thighs than a 32.
It is all bs.
regular sizes go by waist measurement, 24 to 32, then the W sizes are 14W to 24W I believe.
I can see them being more money for more material, $10 isn’t much. But it would be nice if ladies who wear a larger size didn’t have to pay more, but I get it.
Frankly, for designer style jeans, if they’re comfy, women will buy them. Back in the day before I learned to pick my designer jeans in the high end shops then buy them gently used or resale on poshmark or ebay, I used to shell out what little free money I could save for a great pair of jeans. I am tall, so it used to be that cheap brands did not make sizes with long inseams for tall women, you had to buy the designer brands. I have 7 for all mankind and Paige that I bought over ten years ago that still look as good as when I bought them. A good pair is worth the money, good quality denim feels infinitely different than cheap.
She’s doing a launch event tomorrow at the Macy’s by me in nyc, I was thinking of stopping by.
I just doesn’t envision Skinny Jeans as “designer jeans”. I live outside NYC and I don’t think I’ll see many people here wearing them here. Bethenny probably gets her jeans from Barneys and spends at least $300-$500 a pop if not more. She’s picked an interesting price point for her line. I suspect it’s too high for her customers but I’m sure they put a lot of thought into it. I don’t care for her but I wish her success.
I live in Paige jeans ( so soft w/ great stretch that holds it’s shape!) but they’re expensive-I take good care of them. When you spend more it’s incentive to maintain your weight!
I’m dying to try them on. They’re too expensive for me but I’d love to see how they fit.
try them on, take note of the style/cut/size you like then give it a few months and buy on any resale site. I guarantee you someone will be selling the style you liked for cheaper. Takes a little patience but you will get your jeans 🙂
32 is a 12. 14w is the official plus size. At least for this line anyway. ??♀️
Love your “name” & photo.
Thank you!
*Maaaaaaaybe* it was just an error, because when I look them up there is only a $10 difference. Do you still see them double priced? I hope there aren’t different prices for different parts of the country…
I had multiple people send me these photos. I bet she’s going to claim it was a mistake. Yep! They’ve changed it now.
Yep, I called the company after receiving no responses on Twitter or email. They were claiming it was manufacturing’s fault.
You’re exactly right Tamara. A friend of mine called SkinnyGirl and that’s what they told her. It was “a mistake”.
Yeah. I was a mistake alright. And it just highlights that even the $10 is a pisser. Why don’t they make it tiered for every size? A size 8 takes less fabric than a size 14 and more than a size 2. I figure that all the size zeros make up for the 18s. SkinnyGIRL jeans should make you LOOK skinnier. Not just be skinny-legged jeans with a higher price point. Cookie Jordan used to have a line of jeans that were cut to flatter a curvy girl. Skinny-leg jeans are not the most figure-friendly for ANY size.
Cookie Jordan’s original jeans were worth the high price point, but she cut the quality of the fabric & construction to lower the price, & I just don’t think it was a good decision. The jeans weren’t anything alike, & the more expensive ones, which had sold out, were a much better deal, I think. I bought my fave pair of jeans (Earl) on ebay for $7.99; they were perfectly broken in & fit just right. I do also like Gloria Vanderbilt, though buy on sale & with coupons to get for $25 instead of $50. I’ve shrunk enough in height with age, so now have to wear petites, & it’s now more difficult to find good jean selections, especially as I like them skinny & I have virtually no derriere. Mostly I have better luck in consignment shops if I can find current styles. The last two pair I bought online from Steinmart are definitely too baggy. We live in a rural coastal area (yes, smack dab in front of Hurricane Florence), & it is difficult to find time in stores for try-ons. Flyboy prefers me in yoga pants with lots of Lycra, but I can’t always wear those in public.
I used to live in Los Angeles. A double digit number ( 10 or above) was considered a plus size.
yes. ?
I am so upset about the price of the skinny jeans. I was really hoping there would
Be a few affordable pairs. I was willing to spend $50 which i would hardly ever spend on jeans. I am really disappointed. I am also hoping Sonja’s deer slippers go down in price too
I don’t know who Bethenny’s target buyers are but her prices seem to be pretty much in the middle of most designer skinny jeans on the market. Bloomingdales and Nordstrom’s have some selling for more than $500 per pair. Most seem to be pricey. I’d say . . . . wait for a sale or for her to design some “Skinny Girl Reality Wear” for us real women!
I bet if we wait six months, we can find them at TJMaxx or Ross.
Heard she’s supposed to sell on HSN too. They won’t sell at these prices. The jeans are supposed to have a shimmer to them. Wonder if the Skinny Girl logo that Alex created will be on the back pocket? I can’t see a women at size 24 wearing the words Skinny Girl on them.
I read at the market her cover story in Money magazine on tips to become successful and free of debt. A big nothing article that most people know how to do (consolidate credit cards). Mostly her rags to riches story, but surprised she admitted she was raised wealthy.
As a fan of high end jeans(which I buy off of Poshmark and Ebay, and discounted stores only, I try them on in stores and find them elsewhere), these are average priced jeans, not sure if they are branded with actual Hudson line jeans – these are cheaper. If they are as comfy as AG jeans(which are pricier), I’d buy them, cause that brand is comfy AF for skinny jeans. I will be in NYC in a week at the store she will be having her release, we shall see how they are if they have my size avail still and worth it or not. Might be my 50th bday present:0)
Awesome! Can’t wait for your review. 🙂
Me too! I just can’t see spending more than $50 for jeans.
I do what Mkat22 does and pay 50 for 200+ jeans lol, finally smartened up. Resale is where it’s at. I fully admit to paying retail for designer jeans back in my early 20’s before I knew better, though, but they held up. I don’t wear the same size anymore but the jeans are in perfect condition.
I was going to add with Jeans honestly if I buy a pair for $100 I DO see a difference and look better in them. Not all but certain ones. I could also go in and try on 8 pairs of 50 and under price maybe feel awesome in 1 or 2. I live in Colorado and can wear Jean’s just about year round every day though.
Beth must be on needles and pins with the release of her Skinny Girl line after Carole (and friend) “skinny shamed” her in social media. It’s not like Bethenny invented them! They’ve been around for decades. I thought they were for tweens, teens and rock stars! Who else would endure the pain! Lol . . . .
I have to be honest. I feel some kind of way that Carole is gone and bully Bethenny is still on the show. Since I’m a curvy girl, I could care less about SkinnyGirl Jeans.
as an outright fat woman I want Carole to shut her piehole. I don’t need her style of “defense”.
If you don’t like it then don’t listen.
I understand the cynicism regarding the prices now ‘changing’ – but it does seem like a mistake. Charging double for the bigger gals is batshit crazy and might even be illegal.
I should have been clearer in my comment- I was referring to the fact the prices have been updated now on the site.
The picture you posted is of Jeans made by the company Hudson, so feel free to call them out @HudsonJeans, but these are not Bethenny’s
Hudson is the style name of the jeans.
The brand is Skinnygirl.
I’ve always thought developing her brand around skinniness was going to be a problem. The culture is changing. I’m not a mother (I hope to be in the next few years) but any time my nieces come over I scour my house for anything diet, or slightly body shaming. It’s something I just think many of us are more conscious of these days, especially if our mothers passed down their body issues to us. And making people pay more for plus sized jeans of a brand inherently designed around shaming their body? Very short-sighted.
I always thought Skinny Girl was Bethenny herself in the logo. Maybe Yogi Girl would have been more general & include health since she practices yoga. But that might not have matched the alcohol branding. Then again neither does Skinny Girl. I’m still a BIG Bethenny supporter!!
i didnt read all of the comments yet but as someone who works with textiles and not in the fashion industry… if you are using twice as much material i can see how the price would be a reflection of that
By that logic children’s and baby clothes should be close to free?
yeah so i thought about that! yes im not in fashion i just work in textiles so i know fabric is expensive! i have seen baby sneakers at 20$ and matching ones for adults for 200! anyway thats the rationale i had and i guess im wrong lmao casue it seems they have fixed the numbers.
But have you EVER seen this pricing structure women’s Clothing? Terrible marketing and accounting. Variations of fabric used are factored into pricing, precisely so this situation doesn’t happen. IMO, this must have been an error, much as I dislike Bethenny.
I’d like to preface what I’m sure will be an unpopular opinion by saying that I am a curvy gal…But, considering the extra fabric required for plus-sized items, does it not make some sense that there would be a premium for larger sizes? Without a doubt, doubling the price is outrageous, but a small increase seems reasonable to me.
Either way, I don’t see this venture being a home run for Bethenny.
I like the ones with the leather/chain embellishment, and the studs.
I also like that her model has an actual plus sized ass – shopping online, sometimes they just show the skinny model of teh jeans you can also get in plus size. Drives me nuts.
Small or XL, the name is not interesting to wear.
I like several of Bethenny’s jeans though.
Bethhenny doesn’t make jeans, it’s a licensing deal, nothing wrong with that, even if she gets offended when the other ladies try to
I remember when Victoria Beckham started off, a lot of her dresses were really flattering and pictured on curvier women… she soon cut that shit short and now primarily targets trim women in the far east. The cynical part of me thinks pricing the plus-sizes higher could be a ploy to put off larger women who don’t fit in to her brand image. Kinda like how Burberry burns surplus stock rather than sell it to a wider client base for discounted prices. The realistic part of me knows Bethenny is all about the money and it probably was, as she said a pricing error. Either way the jeans market is diluted af and hers don’t have a unique selling point beyond the “Skinny Girl” label, which tbh is oxymoronic on a size 16 lol. Maybe she could have called the plus size range “Curvy Girl”.
89.00 is a little steep for me, I will anxiously await the next Steinmart sale, I can find great pants for about 29.99. I get the extra cost for larger size clothing, doesn’t bother me too much, but what really irks me is when say Ribeyes are on sale at the grocery store, you save 1.00 or so per pound buying the “family pack”. Well I am single and no kids so I always feel that is discriminatory that I have to pay extra to buy 1 stinking steak.
Maybe I’m just super cheap, but I’d never spend that much on jeans! If people can afford it, more power to them. But even if I had that kind of money, I still don’t think I’d spend that much. I’m not really into fashion, though, so maybe that’s why I don’t get it lol I actually get a high when I get a bargain, so that’s all I shop for, pretty much.
Apparently “studded” is the new word for bedazzled.
I will pay top price for a pair of jeans if they fit. I LOVE jeans and it’s so hard to find a good pair, so if they fit me I am paying. I would check out a pair if I see some pics of real people in them and reviews. I think it’s odd that Bethenny is in the clothing business, and I don’t know if I would be screaming “he ya’ll I got my skinny girls on” BUT I also don’t think Bethenny does anything half assed so I think this might be a good line.
TBH, want to know where I found a fabulous pair of jeans? Yummie. My dark wash, ankle length skinny jeans have been my go to for about 4 years now. Still hold up and fit amazing.
I’ve been rail thin and grossly overweight and never in my life would I buy a pair of jeans I had not tried on. When I buy jeans I take multiple pairs of THE SAME SIZE and one higher and lower into the fitting room. I hate trying on jeans but it is necessary.
I like Michael Kors jeans for fat women. You can get them at TJ Maxx from time to time. I have three pairs of the same jeans in three different sizes (the lowest one still has tags 🙂 they were $39 dollars and I went to several different TJ Maxxs to acquire them all.
THANK you for this update. Can’t wait to see the new season.
My daughter’s bought us AS SEEN ON TV PAJAMA JEANS as a gag Chritmas stocking stuffer.
I wear them to work now.
Since SARS I’ve been addicted to Zicam nasal swabs to prevent and shorten colds. Have you tried TT? The really work. Or I think they work. Same difference, lol.
The skinny on jeans if you work for a livin’ Levi Strauss. Been covering my ass for nigh of fifty years. Now that’s a true friend.