I haven’t been feeling well lately and today managed to take a day off by unexpectedly sleeping through the entire day until just a few minutes ago. My days and nights are backwards so I am just waking up the news that Carole “I was not fired and I am not bitter about it” Radziwill has signed on with some channel no one has ever heard about to do “unscripted TV” about how a dead husband is sadder than an ex husband. That sounds fascinating. Apologies if I missed your emails, I will get to them.
But first I am behind by half an hour on this freakshow so I will make it as quick as possible. What I must have missed because I am almost never on Instagram unless someone directs me there is that Carole did an Instastory with some woman bashing Skinnygirl! How fired is Carole? Let us count the ways…
Bethenny and Carole fight about the Red Scarf Guy. Carole attempts to provide evidence that RSG only had eyes for her and it falls flat. Everyone gets their phones out to show texts. Bethenny’s texted him that she can easily set him up with Carole. RSG was trying to get some Internet traction with his emails after the show aired and was shopping partial emails around to support Carole’s false narrative but Bethenny has the actual texts where she offered to set him up with Carole. Booyah, bitch indeed. This relationship is over. Carole continues to trash Bethenny on social media to this day despite the sudden death of her boyfriend. That tells us all we need to know about Carole.
The scenes with Dorinda screaming at Sonja all season are particularly horrible viewed in light of Dennis’s death. Then we see unseen footage of Sonja moving out of the townhouse. She’s living in an apartment on Columbus Circle while she rents the townhouse. She got full ask at $32K. Bethenny advised Sonja to see a psychiatrist and get on anti-depressants and lay off the booze. She gained a lot of weight on the medication. It was hard to get off the medication. Tell me about it. Sonja says that during the period she was weaning off her meds she lashed out and sad things she should not have said. Andy thinks she is making excuses but if you’ve ever come off of meds you would be more likely to believe her. Oh wow, Sonja went off her meds cold turkey. Even worse. Ramona even supports this.
Dorinda wants to argue about divorce and death. Because, cunt. Ramona and Sonja claim they are in a good place. Dorinda makes fun of Sonja’s use of the deer on her shoe line. Sonja is still in touch with he ex husband. Sonja says that she loves everyone.
Did you guys know Carole ran a marathon? We got an entire package on it. Also, she was dumped by her boytoy. I will miss this fascinating storyline.
Tinsley talks about her friendship with Carole and then Carole immediately starts downplaying her relationship with Tinsley and outright say that she is not close with Tinsley and Bethenny just made it appear that way. Tinsley was clearly hurt but this characterization of their friendship.
Carole admits she hasn’t worked in journalism in 17 years. Carole thinks she still has a career. Bethenny and Carole resumés. Bethenny wins.
They finally talk about Cartagena. Bethenny doesn’t like to see her meltdown montage. Carole looks like a bitch with her lack of compassion. A lot of shit happens.
Carole wants us to know that she is a very sane and stable person and she just discovered that the reason she is so sane is because she has a giant hippocampus. Actually, the hippocampus has nothing to do with emotions and is the part of the brain that processes memories. Her hippocampus is in the 99th percentile. She does not realize how crazy this makes her seem. She sees it as proof of her sanity. That’s scary.
When they talk about the boat ride we get a closeup of Ramona’s eyes. They are terrifying. It looks like she might be having a petit mal seizure or something. I think they should have immediately called in a doctor for her. But then she just starts talking normally. Or sort of normally. Ramona doesn’t know how to swim.
The reunion ends with their biggest regrets. Bethenny says hers is calling Dorinda a drunk. Dorinda was touched and cries and Dorinda and Bethenny hug it out. Tinsley regrets losing her temper with Sonja. Ramona’s regret was that she put the photo of Luann and the girls on Instagram and texting Tom. Carole’s regret was her inability to make up with Bethenny. Bethenny cries and says she didn’t hear a regret. Dorinda says her two biggest regrets were the argument with Luann and getting drunk at Bethenny’s dinner in Miami.
God this was horrible and I don’t know who is the worst.
They need to recast everyone.
Again, it is would be impossible to capsize a yacht of that size by accidently releasing the anchor. All it would do is slow down the yacht.
This was just so bad and useless I have nothing left to say.
@JoJo: The anchor dropping was not going to cause them to capsize. The high winds and waves were what they were afraid was going to make them to capsize. They were trying to “outrun” a storm. Then, somehow the anchor dropped, and this was causing a drag on the boat and engine…sort of like if we drive a car having accidentally left the emergency brake on. The burning smell, alarms, etc. on top of high wind, waves, and lack of life jackets made for very scary incident. 🙂
No, that’s not how that really works. The seas and winds were nothing, the chop was decent. It is impossible for an anchor to accidentally release. Yachts are engineered so that cannot happen. Also, the anchor well is on the bow of the boat not “up top” like they kept repeating.
If only Captain Lee was there
But boats can get “swamped” that’s how they capsize. A yacht can certainly capsize. Large ships have sunk. Look at history. If passengers are seasick and falling down on deck, that is a strong chop.
Will they replace Carol? If they do who will replace Carol? And will we love to hate them?
I kind of wish they would bring Heather back. I think she would be a perfect foil to Bethany. And I would love to see Heather by herself without constantly protecting Carole.
Jill maybe? I’d actually like to see what Alex McCord is doing these days.
Bethenny wasn’t crying, she was picking at her false eyelash.
That came loose because she teared up………..give it a rest FFS
She didn’t tear up but it was a good try
No. She was not tearing up. She picked at her lash to say under her breath that Carole didn’t say a regret.
Yes;..thank you Mel.
Haters gonna hate no matter what.
LOL. Why does it matter if Bethenny was crying? The contempt Carole has for Bethenny would negate anyone from feeling emotional when the *claim* they regret the friendship fell apart.
To be honest, IMHO, Bethenny has so much contempt for Carole and all of her fellow housewives that I’m always surprised when any one of them shows her compassion, humor, any positive emotion. I couldn’t trust her. And she’s so CONSISTENTLY spiteful, bullying, manipulative…and gleeful.
Le sigh.
I disagree, Betheny was spitefull and had the contempt for Carol. I usually love her but after the way she treated Carol, I’m no longer Team Bethenny
Bethenny pretended she was going to cry – after hearing Carole’s regret – she did not hear Carole say “I regret i failed. Meanwhile infiantile Bethenny is cleaning gunk out of her eyeball and laughing with sonja “I didn’t hear a regret”
Glad Carole did not include in her regret – any regret about telling Andy – that he is full of shit
Agreed – Bethenny was NOT crying. She is such a passive-aggressive b*tch, I don’t know who could ever be friends with her. Sorry, I am firmly on Team Carol in that dogfight!
I remain firmly Team Carole, too. I look forward to what Carole does on Verve.
I am neither Carole or Bethenny’s team. But I think this season revealed a lot about Bethenny. She is needy and can’t keep any relationship. Makes herself feel better by criticizing others and is extremely jealous and competitive.
I was shocked when she called her boyfriend on camera and basically demanded he bring a private plane down to pick her up from another country right away because she was having trouble with the women.
I guess Dennis was probably at work. I guess he was supposed to leave to pick her up. And it isn’t a car we’re talking about. It’s a private jet that is expensive to fly. The cost of the fuel and the staff and pilot.
It won’t be fun or even tolerable watching this show if all the women except Bethenney are censored and afraid to say what they feel. Lots of ‘yes, ma’am’ and ‘no, ma’am’ to Bethenney I guess. This has been the first time since I started watching RHONY that I haven’t watched the reunion. I just read about it here.
That scene bothered me, if she’s so rich and empowered, why not call your own assistant to charter a flight back home! I mean if you really wanted to leave.
So am I. Between Bethanny manipulating situations and bad editing, Carole comes off as a bitch. The real Bitch is Bethany whose ego ate NY!
Omg she is a moron and may be entering early stages of dementia. Look at her face the whole time.. she is not the same Carole. It’s probably the Illuminati’s fault 😁
Me too. Sorry about her loss but for me, it would be tough to befriend her.
I agree. I think Bethany is annoying AF and difficult to be around. I think Carol was Bethany’s target this year. Next year she will move on to someone else.
There is nothing about Bethenny that is “passive aggressive.” Love her or hate her, she is direct and forthright.
She’s a gas-lighter.
For direct and forthright I would add arrogant, demeaning and abrasive…..!
I second that…
No she forgot about telling Andy he was full of shit.
But her enormous hippocampus should have enabled her to remember.
LOL
GInormous. Writer girl using slang seems so inauthentic. And I am one who still WOULD like Carole if she would stop Bethenny bashing. I was on her side, but I think they could have settled it and now she is acting like a petty pussy.
Carole did say she regretted losing her friendship with Bethenny and Bethenny did not cry although she tried hard. The editing made Carole look bad but Bravo must continue to make Queen B happy because they want viewers to continue to tune in to see what a colossal bitch she is and I probably will! Team Carole all the way.
YES!!!
Ramona looked like a mako shark.
Dorinda is a rage filled substance abuser who then shows regret.
Tinsley is of not much use to Carroll if she is no longer with Adam.
Sonja will go along to get along…maybe smart?
Bethany is a successful, spoiled brat bitch that takes NO prisoners.
Carol is a sad fool who crossed swords with Bethanny and lost to the interrupting motor mouth.
Andy…yuck, feces obsessed.
Part 3…a boring Shit
fest
You can think that B is a bitch – I totally get that even though I’m very much Team B.
But spoiled? She has EARNED every iota of comfort stuff she has now – the nice clothes, the beautiful homes, the travel – she pays for them herself.
Frankly, I think part of the problem is the only person who did any little bit of pampering towards her (that we’ve seen) was Jill. (I just keep remembering a scene first season where they were – I think – in the Hamptons, and Jill was encouraging Bethenny as they were in Jill’s bed like it was some slumber party, and Jill’s mom being mom like to her later on. I don’t know if it was before or after, but I also remember a scene where Jill, B, and some others were at the racetrack – and Bethenny had people recognize her because of her dad, and the look on Jill’s face when she heard that B’s father was there and probably wouldn’t speak to Bethenny and the guy there was very matter of fact that her dad was an ass when it came to Bethenny.
That is the thing with these bashers….. they have not seen this from the beginning so they just don’t get it. Remember when everyone spoke of Bethenny as the Greek Chorus. They loved her snark and her honesty about the whole ‘reality’ crap including herself.
She has always been the one to call any one out including herself….. never did and doesn’t now take it that that seriously. She busted her ass to get where she is today…and still snarks at herself.
But these bitche’s itty bitty feelings are hurt all of a sudden. Womp Womp
Yes, yes, yes!
I’ve been watching HWs since the first season of the OC. There IS something about those who let it all hang, and those that we know how they gained success. With Bethenny, we’ve literally watched it being filmed (I even watched her Martha Apprentice season, even though I didn’t watch Donald’s Apprentice. I feel a little the same way about Lisa Rinna. My mom and my aunties and my grandmas – plus one grandpa – watched Days of Our Lives my entire life. Rinna hit the Days scene when I was in college and was one of the few that had a cheapo VCR plus when Days moved from Noon to 3 PM, when a lot of my dorm mates were back in the dorm and finished with classes. I remember fondly our screaming over the “death” of Hope Brady and Billie (Lisa’s character) entering the scene. Our RA came running into the TV room several times thinking there was something wrong. If Bravo had existed in the early 90s… frankly, my college years would have been more difficult or more social, I can’t decide which!)
But Bethenny has been the first to admit her personality quirks. The most pronounced may have been Heather calling her a know it all, and her saying, yup, i know it all, ask me anything! I frankly think that had Heather stayed on teh show, she would have grown to respect that. It would be an interesting dynamic to bring her back WITHOUT Carole.
I think Bethenny and Heather would have been a great duo. Both fun and sassy.
Bethenny hated Heather.
Your mako shark comment is BRILLIANT! I was trying to think of the animal with those eyes and you nailed it. Too bad July 2018 was the last Shark Week; the clubhouse could have had a special edition with Ramona and the Gay Shark. (Am I the only one who thinks the gay shark is stupid and not at all funny?) At least we know Ramona is not on opioids because her pupils are the opposite of pinned.
Adderall dilates pupils… amongst the many other side effects that some of these Housewives exhibits. I suspect it’s become a real problem with quite a few.
Just sayin’.
Drugs and booze make these crazy women crazier than normal. Thank God the show doesn’t show them getting in vehicles and driving after one of their get togethers! Uber is saving lives!
The hippocampus also regulates emotions… she’s not entirely wrong… however to infer you are a ‘rationale and reasonable person’ because of your hippocampus is not good science; because morals are VALUE based and therefore not scientifically measured, bc we can have different value systems and neither be right or wrong; just different….
There are currently studies about the hippocampus and value systems though. Some suggest political orientation can be measured through hippocampus size – but again, not empirical science… and that is not suggesting one is orientation and size is better than the other; just different.
For example: democrats are said to have larger hippocampus and do not believe in LOYALTY as much as republicans with smaller hippocampus, who are said to place a higher value system on group loyalty etc.. Again, none of this is “empirical science” is sociological science. Something like that – or I have it the wrong way round – had to do an assignment on it two years ago..
Also, Freud’s psychoanalytic theory suggested that many of our adult problems stem from unconscious childhood memories that have damaged our emotional growth and fixated us…. maybe that is where she was trying to go.
Sonja lied through her teeth.
If Bethenny is right and tried to set him up with Carol, then she set Carol up at the lunch when she said he was the new “TOM” and lorded it over her. Either way, not nice. Neither was jumping in her face. I wouldve knocked the bitch out.
Hear, hear.
Ending this season with less feelings for Bethanny than I anticipated. Even factoring in the loss of her friend, I just can’t get past her whole shtick.
How did Sonja lie? If you mean about going off anti-depressants then you are dead wrong!
BTDT and it sucks…………and even worse you don’t realize how nuts you are being at the time.
Once they are cleared from your system you look back and think WTF was I thinking.
Once again Carol did nothing but attack attack and call Bethenny a liar over and over. Hell she
even used beat the hell out of her and Tinsley friendship to bash at Bethenny and in doing so
totally hurt Tinsley.
Carol………complete cunt satchel!
^^^^SOOOO much THIS!
Thank god I never have to see Carole’s horse teeth or hear her whiny voice again!
Yes! Carol is a hurtful witch!!
Lynn, I like your comment, especially the ‘cunt satchel = Carole’. ~.~
sonja lied about being in contact with her ex.
How the hell do you know that……….are you in her life? Didn’t thing sol.
she has said since the start of her time on HW that they have no contact and that it saddened her. He contacted reporters and tried to have his name removed from an article being published about her – he said he didn’t want to be associated to her. she continued to reiterate their lack of relationship throughout the show, even at the legal meeting, she said it was their first contact in years…
If Luann saying palm beach is pretentious and the ‘penthouse’, so is designing clothes with your ex husbands logo on it. Again.. the B double standards.
@Stephanie: Yes, she did to cover her silliness on using the family crest. Odd explanation on how the lawyers are to blame for her divorce, like it was out of Sonja’s and Morgan’s hands? Sonja is an odd duck with her bill up Bethenny’s ass.
I thought it was hilarious that she said it wasn’t a “choice” (equating it to death), but then said it was a “decision” made of several ppl.
Receipts please and thank you in advance. (They do share a child so more than likely are in contact.)
she’s said on the show and in reunions many times she has no relationship with mr. morgan.
Stephanie…you are correct! I’ve spent hours doing research on this (only because I was ‘conflicted’ about her…and let’s be honest..I was bored! ) She does NOT have any relationship with her ex husband OR his family. In fact..he dislikes her so much…he refused to pay the court ordered ‘settlement’ in the divorce. He stated he would have to DIE before he pays her.
There is so much I could say (including why her daughter went to boarding school) but know that it would fall on deaf ears here because Sonja is ‘harmless’ (which is a term Bethenny originated) and people don’t see that she is just trying to capitalize on the Morgan name and the so called ‘legacy’.
My advice give it up. No one wants to hear the truth about her.
Carole mentioning something biological as a rationale for her bizarre behavior is in itself bizarre
I’m curious as to how she was made aware of the size of her hippocampus
Well according to Carol she had a ‘brain scan’……..why??
OH….and apparently she is a ‘stable genius’……………..LOL
Because calculating the volume of the hippocampus is not common and has nothing to do with giving hugs to people as sge has concluded
She most likely had a brain scan because she exhibited a radical personality change which could be Alzheimer’s. She had some of the same looks on her face as my grandma used to have. She had Alzheimer’s for four years before it was diagnosed. I am telling you something is off with Carole.
I’m suddenly grateful that with my grandma’s Alzheimer’s, she didn’t go grumpy. Her finishing school experiences kicked in! (Seriously, forgot the word for fork and how to use it, but when she would grab the coffee cup with tea or even water in it, her pinky went out!
@Erica…..{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}
You’re lucky! My grandma got Alzheimer’s at age 54 and it manifested itself ‘sexually’. She was a devout Mormon who all of a sudden suscribed to Playgirl Magazine (that was laying around for everyone to see..including Mormon Home Teachers), Dildo’s in her bedroom drawers. And when we finally had to put her in a ‘home’….she got kicked out constantly for trying to fornicate with the other male residents. Such a humilating way for her to go! She deserved so much more respect than that! Now I am petrified about it as I age and just hope that if it happens to me….please just smother me with a pillow or something!
I never thought about her that way but you may be right. My sister got diagnosed with it in her mid 50’s. She wasn’t forgetful then but started acted weirder than normal. She put her husband through hell accusing him of running around, buying a van for the girlfriend and paying for it from their checking account. She even went to his job looking for the woman. He knew something was wrong and took her to a psychiatrist which led to the diagnosis. Sorry to ramble but if you look at Carole this year she certainly is different. She suddenly got a voice, ran a marathon after never exercising before and look at the ridiculous clothes she wore. She certainly wasn’t the laid back “cool chick” we’ve seen in seasons past. You may be on to something,
Wait a minute are we thinking Carole had a radical personality change? I don’t see that at all I see her behavior as being consistent since we met her
I’ve definitely seen a change since her first season, and it’s not pretty.
Her behavior is consistent to me. She was always a snooty bitch with an intellectual superiority complex. She just added mid-life crisis/menopause to the mix.
Stephanie! 😊
Awesome post! Totally agree – Sonja lied her face off! Come on – blaming it on meds! uh huh.
From where I sit on my comfy couch – it “sounds” like Sonja is pissed – not jealous – about where she is right now in her life and seeing where Tinsley is. Sonja is casually calling Tinsley a ho and then calmly says “these are things I should keep to myself” — uh no – get a job and clean your townhouse.
samael…So you are calling me a liar too? Get educated…
did you say something memorable? think about it
As someone with two degrees in psychology I feel very confident saying you are full of shit and those of us with expertise in Brain and Behavior science we are laughing in your face and Carole’s.
@TT: That was pretty bizarre.
What am I full of shit about? I said that the hippocampus also controls emotion (the limbic system transfers info into memories – this is in the hippocampus.. soz your two degrees didn’t teach you that…).
I didn’t say bigger was better. I then talked about psychoanalytic theory and current studies being done. I am a current psych student, member of APA and have as a current student, have access to all major journals… and happy to show my creds, sweetie.
Well, lah dee frickin dah! (Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
Go fuck yourself. As a student, you don’t know shit. Read all you want member of the APA.- what did your dues cost to join, a whopping 50 bucks? Please come back and flaunt your CV after 15 years of really doing something- like work. .
Hey there Stephanie! 😊
I always like learning new stuff – thanks for explaining in depth about – that word. Because a person knows their body and mind – why is that considered a negative? wierdnesss
not sure why you are being jumped – knowledge is power
Because her explanations are inaccurate. Despite being part of the limbic system, the hippocampus has one purpose and it has nothing to do with emotion. It is the part of the brain that indexes memories.
Should our overly confident student actually read all these journals she claims to she would know this. Most all of the studies of the hippocampus have to do with Alzheimer’s and amnesia.
No matter how many times she wants to state that the hippocampus has to do with emotions, she will still be wrong every time.
thanks for that information – I know nothing about this
I can send you some journals if you like – or any of you are free to hop online and see for yourself,,, . and to the person saying I don’t no shit bc I haven’t worked for 15 years. I am a certified Domestic and Family Violence Counsellor. And what we are talking about is psych 101. first year undergrad stuff – and psychs are students for life…and have to continue to study to keep the registrations up.
sorry you don’t like to be challenged TT – we could have had fun
You need a simple introductory course to brain and behavior. Or perhaps a simple textbook glossary to break down the functions of various parts of the brain. Perhaps a Google search would do.
You are wrong. Facts are facts. You statements are ludicrous
I understood you very clearly. You were not trying to show off — IMHO — you were trying to give us a concise explanation of the function of the “hicanisis,” as La Morgan calls it.
Quick google search: The limbic system is a connection of many brain structures that help control emotions, in addition to memory, learning, motivation, and bodily functions like appetite and sex drive. Subparts of the limbic system include the hippocampus, amygdala and hypothalamus.
IE – regulation of emotion in the limbci system – transfers and organises emotion into memory……….
sorry you blocked my ability to reply to yours directly…..
Further google search: The hippocampus plays a critical role in the formation, organization, and storage of new memories as well as connecting certain sensations and emotions to these memories
So you see now that the hippocampus is the part of the brain that stores MEMORIES.
Now google Amygdala and you will find out about the part of the limbic system that addresses emotions,
Try subvocalizing as you read. It could help you limited comprehension.
Bethenny could not get by with her behavior in the real world. Whatever happened with the woman she threw a drink on at a concert?
??? Looks to me like she gets along more than fine each and every day in the ‘real world’.
Where did that come from? Bethenny gets along just fine in the real world.
Tamara, Holy Cow. Come stay with me in my house in New York’s Hudson Valley for a few days. My beagle Henry will welcome you. We can have synchronized panic attacks, then toddle into town to imbibe some sippy-sippies from the local establishments. I have a guest room. And a wealth of Star Trek Collectibles. Everyone wants to visit Cold Spring, NY, as the New York Times has repeatedly declared. We are the town Norman Rockwell would have drawn. What say you, Glorious Leader?
I say take her up on this “glorious leader”! You love traveling, DaliaMama writes amazing comments to your incredible recaps. You two should play in the sandbox together, at least once (or twice, or as needed)!
Star Trek Collectibles? Just when I couldn’t admire you any more, Mama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Although I say with a hanging head in shame, I’m not caught up on the two last series. In my college days, I went to conventions though! I can explain every Big Bang Theory reference to Star Trek – and then some. Ha!
Yes please.
I’m not doing well.
But it is a long road trip.
{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}
That sounds like a wonderful offer and a fun visit. I think you two could get in all sorts of fun “trouble.” And your little dogs too. Perhaps you could hire a driver and a family van.
I have 2 beagles. Aren’t they the best?
No argument from me. My Harley is the most devoted dog I’ve ever had. He’s also the most stubborn. I’m very fortunate in that goes to work with me every day. It didn’t start out by choice but his big mouth was bothering the neighbors. Luckily i work in a small office and the owner is a dog lover.
I’m new to commenting but a onetime fan and I have to say how much I love Beagles (and all animals, for that matter.) I’ve been an animal rescue for 10 years and beagles are so stubbornly adorable and sweet!
My latest beagle is a rescue. Thank you for all you do!
Love, love, love!
Star Trek Collectibles?!!! I bow before you!! I don’t believe there’s a useful hormone left in my body, but if there were any, Jean Luc Picard would be the one to wake them up. Secondly, in a more adventurous moment, I’d not turn Worf away LOL.
I see Bethenny wisely refrained from saying her biggest regret was losing her friendship with Carole.
I think Bethenny has chalked up that relationship and let it go.
Carole apparently hasn’t , she appeared to be watching Bethenny like starved hawk waiting to swoop in on something Bethenny might say.
Bethenny and Sonja kept their cool more so than the others—poor Tinsley was the orphan at the reunion.
Agreed. Tinsley was definitely a hard hit “innocent” bystander in this mess of a reunion. She was beaten down many times even though she stayed relatively neutral. First her boyfriend broke up with her, sees other people when “on a break” and won’t give her babies. Then she gets told over and over she isn’t really a friend now that she and Carole are no longer filming or dating friends (once again reminded Scott broke up with her). And last but not least, no one enjoyed Cartagena or trusts her trip planning skills. I really felt sorry for her, and she is not someone who usually inspires sympathy/empathy. I am relieved for her that Carole is gone from the show. Now she has a chance to start fresh a la Sonja and LuAnn.
“Poor” Tinsley! I will say, she appeared hurt and taken aback as Carole downplayed their friendship. Whether due to potentially losing her apple (with no real storyline) or now understanding she wasn’t really considered one of Carole’s friends? Kinda sad.
It was just mean as hell….sigh! Carol really has a problem that goes way beyond this show.
I felt TERRIBLE for Tinsley then!
But wait a minute – admittedly have never read the short story it was based on, but was AUDREY HEPBURN A HOOKER IN BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S?
Seriously… if someone compared me to any Audrey Hepburn character, I’d die with happiness.
LOL
Tinsley thought she and Carole were close friends…what a surprise to find out her “friend” basically demeaned her on national TV….
Yeah – I think bethenny was mourning that friendship as the show aired and by this point was done. But initially she seemed far more invested.
I have a hard time understanding all the B hate though from some posters. Yes she is abrasive as hell and I think she had to grow up scrapping for herself as her mother is a mean malicious person, but I don’t think she is spoiled or entitled. I think she hustles and works hard and grew to be a resourceful problem solver. I don’t see her as a liar or malicious but can be hurtful with the truth. My feelings on Carole has done a 180. I really liked her. This Carole I do not get at all. She seemed detached, cold and petty and fair weathered.
Totally agree Samaraohara3.
B. did not have a pampered, spoiled life.
She is a fighter, because it was how she survived a messed up childhood.
I’ll take a friend like B.
An example of having Carole for a friend is how she minimalized time spent with Tinsley and how she staged a 3-way gang up against B.
Nice friend, hey?
She shows no remorse, empathy, nurturing skills, comfort, compassion, solace nor humor.
I think her nickname should be Cold Petty Patty. She’s a stiff fish.
Hi Bethenny
Hi Jason/Carol
WTF???
I made it on the “Hi, Bethenny” list!
I consider that a compliment.
Thank you ever so much!
ROFL 😂😂😂
😍🤪😹
LOL!!
Bungalow Chris – totally agree in that I would take a friend like B over Carole now. I adored Carole when she first joined. I loved her blogs, the tongue in cheek funnies she’d pop off with – very much more of an “observer” or “support person” in her role on the show, and while my life isn’t exactly like hers, I felt that she was the eyes and ears for those of us who would never be asked to be on any of the HW shows because we’re more “regular”.
But, in real life, I feel like Bethenny is one that you could have a total argument, tell her why you are really fucking pissed off or why you disagree with her on an issue, but then after all was said and done, could (perhaps the next day) say “where are we going out to dinner?” or even if you are mad at each other, could call at 3 AM saying “I”m stuck on the side of the road” or “I’m in the emergency room” and she’d be there (and I”d be there for her)
@Erica…Yes, Yes, Yes
Precisely. And while her tone may have reflected the edge that comes from feeling you are being constantly attacked, she remained logical and rational, and asked questions that gave the speaker a chance to explain/give examples.
We saw in Cartagena that two thirds of her reactions to Carol’s attacks, from the quick responses that threaten some and are taken as attacks by others, to the snarky comments, are truly her way of coping with hurt feelings. She is very hurt by the loss of Carole as a close friend , after she trusted her with so much of her personal, deeper feelings and life. She is taking the loss of her friendship personally, but truth be told, I think B does much better when she is speaking/fighting/commenting on a rational level- it is easier and less painful for her to do. The rational discussions make sense for her- . and should for the other women as well, cause they can lead to knowledge/resolution, with far less of the pain.
Carole had little or nothing to support her assumptions, comments/observations. Just a snide tone and arrogance. I have been so disappointed in her this season. Where is the kind lovely woman form London, vulnerable,intelligent, real? This one seemed lost between her views of what a young woman should be and what she has become, an older rudderless woman .Tinsley’s little girl world of clothes and dreams and lightweight superficiality was not enough to fulfill her- but it kept her busy for a while and was fun. B has a purpose to what she does. Carole needs to decide how she wants to use her time and life – I don’t think she has yet, Each of her companions, Tinsley and Bethenny, gave her very different busy paths to follow-she needs to choose for herself. In the meantime, I think she is pretty miserable as she ages tis way.
Totally agree.
And lol….I have a friend that did call me at 3 am one morning to come get her at the train station 4o miles away in the middle of pouring down rain storm because her car she had left parked at the station wouldnt start and she had no way to get home at that hour. Thank gawd all my friends would do the same for me and each other.
I would love Bethenny as a friend……. she is a true ride or die and super fun!!
Ride or die?! What Bethenny have you been watching? She has single handedly ruined every one of her “close” relationships/friendships that has been filmed. She is a dysfunctional and bitter snake.
I like Bethenny. But yeah, ‘ride or die’ not so much.
Agree, Samaraohara3
Agreed Sara!
I dunno why but I was kind of rooting for Carole as I was watching. I agree with her that Bethenny kind of started the bashing on the show, but I think she felt left out and hurt by Carole and was lashing out. Still, Bethenny seems to be the clingy one, not Carole. I’ll also never forget that Bethenny led the verbal assault against Luann the season or two before. She’s relentless, but Carole was right there cheering her on until she became the target. They deserve each other.
And yet Luann is over it……..why aren’t you?
Yeah… Luann is over it because while Bethenny’s delivery needs a LOT of work, she was right about Tom.
@Erica…………
Yep….. Bethenny lacks tact at times……..but I’ll take her tactless honesty over bullshit any day of the week.
Why am I not surprised
Yes, and it was clear she had no joy over it, either. She was trying to protect Luann.
Lu and Sonja want to keep their jobs is the reason why.
Agree. Two mean girls.
Can we talk about Ramona’s eyes! They were focused in two different directions!!!!
I wish I had a screen shot of that! I spit out my drink!
Christi, It was the meme tonight on WWHL.
Yes, looking at Ramona’s eyes sent off red flag warnings.
If I were her friend I would suggest that she go see a doctor, ASAP.
I was thinking the fake lashes and her contacts were drifting at the same time.
It does look like her contact lens didn’t move with her crazy eye in that photo. Mine do it sometimes and it’s so uncomfortable! I can’t imagine holding that crazy expression for so long with a contact out of place. She does have some really crazy eyes and heavy fake lashes though so maybe she was oblivious to the discomfort. While watching it live, my thoughts were more along the lines of “my god, she’s having some sort of partial onset seizure!”
while i don’t think she’s a nice woman, i don’t believe she has any control over that
The difference between Bethenny and Carole ‘s argument is Bethenny mocked Carole’s life to the point it was almost a failure to have a dead husband and not working 24/7 on a career. Carole criticized Bethenny’s behaviors towards her. Carole didn’t go as low as she could have with Bethenny, I will give her that. I guess they have something in common now – dead husband, dead boyfriend.
OH goody……. the Bethenny bashing brigade has arrived.
If you don’t like my opinion then scroll on.
Nice – must remember that line!
Nice, Spunky2015! Love that!
This is an excellent point.
I didn’t think Bethenny was bashing Carole by saying she didn’t have a husband, child or career. Bethenny’s delivery wasn’t correct, but I took it to mean that Bethenny was dealing with her businesses, ex-husband, being on the show and raising a child, which was stressing her out, she took on more than she could handle and was too busy. Carole only works on the show, doesn’t have a child to raise or a crazy ex who is putting her through hell. Carole only has to worry about Carole.
Carol is a complete loser. So pathetic. Ugh.
I’m so happy that she finally admitted that she’s not really friends with airhead Tinsley. She used Tinsley all season hoping Adam would want some more of that ancient snatch. But boytoy really moved on. This is what Carol is angry and obsessed about. She’s finally seeing the truth in the mirror. She’s almost 60, young men aren’t attracted to her. She has no job or career. Maybe she should flaunt some of that faux 50 million. Her fashion taste is laughable and she’s jealous of Bethenny. First year psych student would call that.
Now Tinsley knows Carol used her. Hahahaha.
Kinkerbelle……..YESSS
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Exactly i mean who is she saving it to give to her cats, living in that regular studio apartment with tore down furnishing, at this age i would be living it up and not taking shyt from some younger chick with less money than me just to go on trips. If i had $50 million at her age with no boyfriend or babies i would have chin check Bethanny a long time ago. Not waited until she disrespect / offend my younger boyfriend whom i’m desperately trying to hang to. So now to show my loyalty to my man i need to pick a fight with her, and end up losing both my man and my best friend in a desperate attempt to save face. I doubt she is worth $50 million, Adam would have sniffed that out and not left, manathan is tuff place to survive and most people if given the option will choose money over love.and that Adam appears to be one of them Carole is mad because she allowed Bethanny to treat her like crap for the extrinsic rewards Adam saw she is not worth that much and left and now she is mad and need someone to be at fault for her lonelyness and lack of coffee.
Carole takes a lot of pride in her career. Whether 15 years ago or not, it’s nothing to be downplayed. Bethenny attacked her career because she knew it would hurt Carole the most. This season made me lose any respect for Bethenny. There is good and bad in everyone, and Bethenny’s charitable work is great. I would never want her as a friend though. “She’s always been that way” only goes so far.
Bethenny wasn’t talking about her past career she was saying that Carol has no career now as a reason why they have grown a part. Bethenny is busy as fuck and Carol has too much time on her hands. Not an insult just a fact. Who are you to decide what Bethenny ‘meant’? She explained it but you just don’t want to accept it. That is on you!
Funny how it wasn’t a problem before. It was a dig on Carole ‘s career. Can’t be sugarcoated any other way. Plain as day.
Ah Spunk
Don’t like my comment ……..”scroll on by”!
Original. Glad you liked it.
how much does Jason and or Carol pay you. Every post is second verse same as the first. Can’t wait for you to insult TT again.
Haha! Spunky, guess we’ll both be Carole again this week. So orginal.
I surmised that the reason Bethenny listed all of her credentials was because Carole had said in a blog, in effect, Carole would put her resume against Bethenny’s any day’.
So, Bethenny took on the challenge and tipped the scales.
Sort of like the teetering boat on the high seas.
Carole was puking in a bucket while Bethenny was holding Carole’s hair in addition to
warding off flying furniture.
YEP!
I thought so too.
Yes!!-
No, Carole even said that she initially was the one to say that Bethenny had too much time on her hands (I’m sober tonight – well, was when I was watching, now I’ve had whiskey). B responded in that Carole doesn’t have a CURRENT BUSY CAREER, and doesn’t have kids (so no “stay at home mom” busy) and wasn’t even in a relationship. ALL TRUE. Carole’s first response back was that they have the “same career” – probably meaning that they are both on reality shows. But B is STILL currently doing a hell of a lot more that occupies her time.
I even thought I read somewhere (social media, blog?) from Bethenny where she stated that it isn’t a dig against Carole being able to afford to have more of a life of leisure, that if you want it and can afford it – power to her! But Bethenny clearly has more “plates in the air” that she is juggling. Not a judgment against Carole, but a statement of fact. I would NEVER take offense at my best friend mentioning to me everything that she juggles – a marriage, kids, full time career (with not regular hours), managing extended family, when I am not married, don’t have kids, and have a more flexible job than she does (I get to adjust what I do more than she does). I have time for hobbies. On the same token, she also sympathizes that as an only and as my parents age – all that is going to be on my shoulders completely. She listens to me, and I genuinely think that Bethenny was willing to listen to Carole, especially if she had said “What you said about Adam hurt him, and therefore hurt me”.
@Erica..excellent points! No real friend would get their panties in a bunch about such stupid shit.
@Erica….totally agree with your comment. With Bethenny all the way!
You should read Carole’s Twitter feed. She is still trying to tear Bethenny down and the show is in the record books now, but Carole can’t stop trying to destroy Bethenny. Sorta surprised by this move. It’s not an attractive look.
Who or what is Verve? This is who Carole signed with and the piece talks more about a Mr. Thompson, who has a name in ‘unscripted programming.’ Ummhuh, that sounds like a match made in heaven.
Yep I saw her twitter few minutes ago, she is still at the Bethenny bashing…my gawd she is obsessed with this..
Here is wiki description of Verge:.
The Verge is an American technology news and media network operated by Vox Media. It has offices in Manhattan, New York City. The network publishes news items, long-form feature stories, product reviews, podcasts, and an entertainment show.”
Evidently its strictly a net centered operation, not a movie production company, does podcast and a lot of tech stuff coverage. Does not sound to me what Carole probably hoped for.
And her PR person or agent is sending this to all the net outlets:
EXCLUSIVE: Former Real Housewives of New York cast member Carole Radziwill has signed with Verve in all areas. Verve has also recruited veteran producer Bill Thompson to bolster the agency’s growing unscripted space
My guess is Carole was pushing like mad to get something she could announce as her new “career” in order to save face after her firing. I predict she will gradually fade away.
Carol is like a malicious starker…. creepy!!
could this be projecting? malicious stalker, creepy. ?? This is the first time I’ve ever gotten creeped out on this site by someone who was seemingly over-the-top in hero worship.
I have been on this site? When I read your last three comments in email with no idea who you were talking about I had several commenters come to mind. But Lynn was certainly not one of them. What is your obsession with Lynn? It’s kind of creeping me out.
I agree. Carole should knock it off.
Writer Girl Carole’s narrative got blown to shit in the first ten minutes. #BooyahBitch
Poor Tinsley looked like she just found out that Santa is not real when Carole downplayed their friendship.
That was really mean! Just shows how desperate Carol is to take Bethenny down. Which is NEVER going to happen you harpy witch.
Carole looked absolutely insane with her muttering, eye rolling and head shaking.
The hippocampus / sane story is nuts. She is just a cold emotionless bitch.
Pitch perfect comment. Why was she so cruel to Tinsley? It was like Carole was kicking a little puppy.
If Bethenny was SUCH great friends with Carole how come she was shocked at how long ago she started working at abc. Even I knew that is had been about two decades ago. What a friend. The reason Carole lost it was because Bethenny announced to the world that Adam wanted to be paid for going to Puerto Rico. Carole was pissed. I doubt it was true but then again Adam doesn’t have money to not work for it. I’m telling you that was the root. You don’t put down her man. Ask Luann about that.
@Joni: Agree, that was mean of Bethenny making Adam look bad on camera where he can’t defend himself. Funny how she has forgotten the struggle to succeed in others, but reminds us practically every episode of her early struggles.
Adam did have a way to defend himself he appears on camera all the time plus his girlfriend could have been his mouth peice if he was defensible. He does not appear to have a 9 to 5 and i witness Carole buying him stuff charity, so how is it, he can receive it for free but wants to be get paid for a free trip , room, broad and meals. He taker and clearly not a giver, real opportunist that why he jump from Luane neice to Carole thinking he had pay dirt hahaha only to find out he got duked, she is not worth no $50 million.
Carole explaining everything by saying “she is a very sane person” and so stable – implying that those who disagree with her – are not “sane and stable”. How self-serving can you be? And Andy pointedly repeating how Carole said he was full of shit and glaring at Carole? Ohhh, imo, it looks like she was SO fired for doing that to Andy. But why? Why would a “sane and stable” person say something so insulting to her boss, because, they admit, they were angry – which is an out of control and not stable emotion?
I think Carole had decided that she was leaving anyway and figured she may as well say what she’s always wanted to say.
Yes, I agree. You know Bravo and Bethenny would love to milk this feud for another season. I guess poor Tinsley is Bethenny ‘s target next season.
FFS……tha is some might fine spinning there..LOL
Bethenny IS and has always been the show!
I doubt Disney Princess Tinsley will be around next season.
With her former boyfriend Pugsley Addams out of the picture and her being unfriended by the Wicked Witch of the West Village, Bravo doesn’t have a good reason to keep her around.
Seriously? You’ve been here long enough to know the commenting rules.
Well, at least the nicknames were original unlike LuMan, etc., lol. And I honestly couldn’t remember the name of the Coupon Cabin guy but he does remind me of a grown Pugsley.
And “Disney Princess” and “Wicked Witch” are actually descriptive words, not nicknames. So I’d thought I’d slip by this time.
I had no idea who you were talking about.
Sorry!
xo
I don’t think there was a winner in this fight. Both of their ugly sides were spotlighted. Carole dragging bullying and the #MeToo movement into her tweets is nonsense. Bethenny is who she is but at least she doesn’t pretend to be different unlike Carole who can be just as mean spirited and nasty but claims she isn’t.
Simply, yet perfectly stated.
I cannot understand how anyone can watch any of this season or reunion and feel that Bethenny was the one wronged but that’s just my feelings. At one point I was a Bethenny fan but now aside from her relief work, I find her to be an insufferable human being. Glad this season is over, just wish Lu had been there to speak for herself
I agree. Bethenny and Carole is the same as what Bethenny did to Lu – personal lifestyle attacks. Bethenny told Lu she didn’t like how she lived her life. Bethenny was saying the same to Carole. Who does Bethenny think she is?
She’s the bitch that brings the ratings! There would be no show without her period.
There was a show when she was gone
For three years. Carole hit it on the head when she asked Andy is he is scared of her too. Yep. He is for some reason.
Ahem……..two years and the ratings were shit.
Bwahahahahah!
The ratings weren’t that good this season. Fans of the show are getting tired of the Bethenny show and who she’s going to pick on next.
I’m with you.
Bethenny is a master manipulator and Carole lost her patience. Honestly, this is the first season Carole was even worth watching. She wasnt acting any differently than the other women, we were just too used to her being passive and quiet. None of her behavior was remarkable or even as vilaneous as these blogs are making her out to be. Bethenny had this coming and I’m glad we got to see the breakdowns. She certainly lacks empathy in many occasions, so it’s good to see her be humbled for a scene or two. I won’t miss Carole but will admit I’d be curious to see what she would’ve been like next season now that she’s finally acting like a housewife.
That was so cruel……
But accurate
Carole really wanted too win this fight with Bethenny, she could almost taste that victory but it was snatched away by a phone with the actual text messages. Oh snap. I think it’s a good thing Carole never tried to have Kids, she is a cold, cold person. The way she diminished Tinsley was terrible, those 2 were joined at the hip all season and she shit on her in a big way. Sadly Dorinda is a drunk and does need help, she really does. Ramona’s eyes looked like she had a concussion or something like really not good. Sonja looked classy, the beat she has in years. I hope Bethenny finds peace after the loss of Dennis. It just shows money cannot buy happiness.
What’s Carole giung to do when she turns 60?
WOW! You’re so fast Tamara! I just watched, recycled a bit because DVR not cooperative tonight. I cannot believe how fast you process these episodes! Thank you!
Now I’m going to read up on opinions, Yay!
One thing I noticed and will comment on before reading comments was Ramona’s right eye! It looked dialated and I thought I caught redness, like a burst capillary, inner white of her eye…the car accident was how many weeks before this reunion? Maybe she had eye surgery…cataract or lasik, no clue but why not just tell us?
Probably 20 comments posted in the time it took me to write this (I’m not a writer girl!)
XXOO TT and Banjo, hope you two are feeling better!
I agree.
Tamara is quick as lightening with her postings!
Another good one, too.
Thanks, TT!
I don’t wish to start an argument with any folks here.
I think we all have strong opinions regarding our likes/dislikes.
I love Bethenny, but funny thing is,
I can not stand Kenya Moore.
Weird, huh?
Maybe my hippocampus has something to do with it?
Perhaps it should be jacked up, or jacked out, or Jacked Off?
I’m just sayin’, yeah, Carole is wacked out of her asshole
way up to her hippocampus!
And that is WAY too big of a word for Sonja to pronounce, so no more of that shit!
Betthenny is my girl……and I don’t care for Kenya either. Guess with are just lost lambs. LOL
Bethany has always been my favorite! She’s smart, funny, snarky, smartass, beautiful, strong, successful women….everything thing these other women wish they could be! I “get” her. The show wouldn’t be worth watching without her. Oh, and yea, I dont care for Kenya either…Im pretty much “over” Atlanta housewives anyway.
I have always respected Bethenny’s willingness to look hard at herself as well as others, to be critical of herself ,and to search to improve. I haven’t seen most of the others be as willing to be as introspective or grow. Have always liked that about her-
I’m glad Carole is done and dusted with Bethenny and the show – I liked her. But then, I also liked Heather T and was glad when she left because I don’t think RHONY suited her personality. I wish Carole luck and hopefully they’ll find another frenemy for Bethenny to befriend and then devour.
The thing is Carol is STILL talking shit on SM so she is obviously not over it. Hell she’s still mad that Bethenny blocked her on SM. LOL
Bethenny is a very strategic and deft verbal fighter. She was ten paces ahead of Carole the entire time. B. won hands down.
Tinsley was obviously and justifiably hurt by Carole’s downgrade of their friendship.
The only other part of the show that got me was Dorindas reaction to Bethennys apology for the drunk comment. I hope we see more of that version of Dorinda if she is back next season.
I agree. It was a sad attempt, by Carole, to take on Bethenny.
I also would like to see more of the humble version of Dorinda.
I don’t think Carole liked it when Dorinda and Bethenny hugged it out.
Carole was rolling her eyes, twitching her head, scowling, and talking over
everyone during pretty much all 3 reunion shows.
Yet, when, as TT says, “did you know Carole ran a marathon?” LOLOLOL
during Carole’s glorious marathon footage and Adam handing her a trophy
Carole was beaming from one oversized horse tooth to the other.
So, effing full of herself. Uck!
I can’t stand her.
Bungalow Chris…… love this, lol
Are all you Skinnygirl employees getting overtime pay for writing all this sh*t?
Really. My favorite Bethenny seen was
When they were away on the Be Cool trip and Bethenny was
Lying in the sun and they all
Went into the water but the camera caught her quickly removing her
Falsies from her top. She thought you couldn’t see it but what a phony. Falsies at the beach but not in the water. And it was such a quick movement most probably missed it.
Filming at Bobby’s funeral And Proud of it
Too!!!! God. Such a phony.
Well, clutch my pearls, not the ever-dreaded falsies! Pfft!
@Zalo.. oh hell yes, she keeps us buzzed and happy all the time! Great boss during business hours and tons of fun when work is down. Jealous?
Zalo,
I am not into a pissing match with anyone on this website.
I have opinions and I share them.
I will not knock you, or try to sway you away from your viewpoints.
I would, however, encourage you to share your thoughts regarding the
topic of this thread.
Do you have anything you’d like to contribute to the conversation?
I think Zalo is mostly referring to Lynn who has literally defended Bethenny or attacked commenters on her behalf, on almost every single post int his thread.
Yes when she says there were people on the sidelines screaming her name. I used to go see my mom run marathons. She did it. We watched. We ate dinner. End of story.
ANDY is the worst…that is it.
Change the fucking channel….geeze very simple thing to do.
I’m the same age as Carole and would never publicly share other people’s texts. Period. I guess I’m just not ‘the cool girl’. She did that back at the Birkshire’s dinner when she shared Bethenny’s conversation about Lu. I hold what people say to me in confidence. It just really bothers me how readily she shares private conversations.
Lovie, very much agree. “Friends” don’t do that even if the friendship goes sideways. You just do NOT do that.
Get back to work on those Skinnygirl jeans, Skinnygirl employee.
If I could go back 20 years I would definitely be rocking those jeans!! LOL
Bethenny is a major success ….can’t handle it is huh? Loser……lol
Do you believe that Andy Cohen and Bethenney Frankel are your friends? I don’t see housewives eager to take up for Cohen often. Your obsessive ‘protection’ from comments on a website is uncomfortable. Several pro-whichever housewife is normal. Devoting what had to be several days to this is stalker-like and concerning. I do hope you work for Andy or Bethenney as I don’t want them to have to think about safety or privacy issues. If they are your friends, have a nice dinner and have a laugh about the comments. But your slavish devotion to them is strange.
During the reunion she shared a text from Bethenny and twice reference something Bethenny said about Ramona. No girl code for Carole! She definitely did it to rile Ramona up.
She claimed to be “ride or die,” She clearly has died in this relationship and has adopted the, “take no prisoners” approach to ending it.
I always read the comments first so this may be redundant but I really enjoyed this episode. They seem like they have very real intertwined relationships. I feel they really care about each other, much more than any other city. But being a NYC girl (grew up in a CT suburb 30 miles from the city) I may be predjudiced. The Carole vs Bethanney brings me no joy, I feel like Carole could use this opportunity of Dennis’ death to reach out but she’s shown herself to be an entitled brat. Does anyone know if the Lee Radziwill twitter is real? Someone said it is not. Lee does not speak well of Carole on it. Maybe because Carole chose a total stranger instead of his mother to retrieve his ashes. Hey, I’D be pissed!! I grew up in a large Irish-Catholic family and we did identify with the Kennedys. Although my elder aunt who knew them a little did call them “dirt”. So I was excited a “member ” of the family was coming on my favorite show. I’ve always thougt Adam somehow resembled JFK, jr. Cannot wait for next year!!
Really. My favorite Bethenny seen was
When they were away on the Be Cool trip and Bethenny was
Lying in the sun and they all
Went into the water but the camera caught her quickly removing her
Falsies from her top. She thought you couldn’t see it but what a phony. Falsies at the beach but not in the water. And it was such a quick movement most probably missed it.
Filming at Bobby’s funeral And Proud of it
Too!!!! God. Such a phony.
OH MY GOD the nerve……
Jill set up the cameras…………pay attention.
Interesting that Dorinda can call Bethenny a bully when she’s been screaming at Sonya for 3 seasons. Seems you’re only a bully if Carole doesn’t like you anymore.
Dorinda also forgets that Bethenny and her buddy Carole had made some not so nice comments about John. Lu and Sonya never did.
Dorinda is one fake ass bitch. If she was SO upset about Bethenny calling her a drunk …why the hell didn’t she say something on the plane? Guess she had to get the coven together to say anything at all.
Guess we know now why all the nasty talking heads……. and a couple of really shitty blogs. Just like Carol…..yakkity yakk yakk yakking.
I think Dorinda was still drunk on the plane.
I too have concluded that Dorinda is a bit of a fake. And I really disliked the way she attacked Sonja over death vr divorce. Not all divorces are a ‘choice’, some women get left and some men get left and had no choice in the matter.
I also believe she pretties up her 5 year marriage to Richard. He died Nov 16 2011. She took up with John 4 months later in March of 2012 according to her March 2018 celebration of 6 years together with John. So..4 months isn’t a very long mourning period.imo.
Also something a bit weird is she claims she met John thru Richard because they belonged to the same social club—-but she doesn’t tell the name of the club and I find it hard to imagine John and Richard having any common social interest.
O.k. this is totally catty of me but it seems Dorinda married above herself with Richard and then reverted back to her own level with John.
I also wonder what caused his ‘liver failure’ death at 60….could had been some infection or..and I am just speculating here and have not seen it claimed anywhere….but given Dorinda’s own drinking habits could she and Richard both have been heavy drinking partners back then?
Whatever….I think she is less than honest about her past life and present drinking and is way out of line attacking Sonja about her 13 yr marriage that ended in divorce.
Yep. Something doesn’t add up. She’s way too triggered by Sonja; she seems totally rabid when she goes into attack mode.
Every time I read (or re-read) Carol’s nasty blogs this season I truly could not understand why she was so vicious…. I mean I’d seen the episode so WTF.
Unfortunately I don’t have a photographic memory but the hatefulness never made sense. Never matched the episode.
One of these days I’m going to print out the nasty blogs and the episode that they refer to just to make sure I have not lost my mind!
And also…TT blogs and purple pen. Love that purple pen!!!
Personally I thought the worst comment Bethenny made was the one about the know-it-all politician with the dead husband. I thought that was pretty insensitive.
That was more than insensitive. It was really mean. Viscious actually. I would say the same if someone made a similar comment about Bethenny and referred to Dennis that way. Bethenny’s comment was deliberately cruel and really sh*tty. She is great with her charity work but she is also really mean and cruel. She’s both. These things coexist in her and I just wish posters would stop acting like Bethenny is perfect and Carol is a villain and vice versa. They are both “and both.”
This post says it all. I agree with you completely.
I have a fairly recently dead husband and did not take it that way at all. That’s her acerbic wit. I truly do not think she meant it cruelly at all.
Exactly Nancy….
All the nasty shit she got all season and on the reunion was meant to HURT.
Lord knows she’s not perfect and her mouth can bite her in the ass at times but she is ALWAYS the one that takes responsibility for it and apologizes from her heart not just for TV.
You make me very uneasy. and all the backwater language and talk (when you turn this all on me) isn’t going to hurt me. It will just reinforce my view of you.
If you don’t know Bethenney, I hope someone will have her read your obsessive comments to her so that she at least knows you are out here. She has a small child. Taken together, it’s hard to believe your comments are meant in a positive, spirited and friendly way.
@Beezus: Great post. Bethenny mentioned the dead husband more than once is what got me mad. Really below the belt. Carole never said anything about Bethenny’s personal life and she’d have a lot to say if she wanted to.
Yeah I don’t think it was done to be cruel. I think Bethenny was trying to make a joke and it fell flat. I was just saying IMO that was the worst comment she made to that eye rolling shrew of a bitch.
If Bethanny did not have the charity work on the show, I think that we would no be so pro-Bethanny. Her charity work shows she has empathy and compassion, somewhere inside. It is not evident in her personal relationships.
Season’s over and so is their friendship. Let it go and move on. The Cunt Satchel Bethenny has burned through yet another relationship. And in other news, the Sun will rise in the morning.
Well Zalo, this is the forum to discuss this topic, if you dont like the comments….then keep it moving, enjoy the other news and the sunshine 🌞 And your “Skinnygirl” comments…yea…NO.
@Ronda……LOL
You go girl!!!
Lynne, I’ve been reading your comments in response to people who prefer Carole to Bethenny or who bring up some critical issues towards Bethenny. I don’t understand why your dialogue with those who don’t feel towards Bethenny as you do isn’t more civil. This is a significant problem in our country right now as the recent anonymous (though many have stated that they think the author is Vice President Pence) op-ed piece in the New York Times has pointedly stated.
I’m 70 years old and when I grew up, people debated different sides of the argument, but it was almost always civil and there was mutual respect. I don’t see any of that respect in your comments towards people who don’t support your opinion about Bethenny. This makes me very sad. One of the reasons we have been a great country is because of our being a melting pot with people of differing backgrounds and differing opinions. It also causes me worry for the future of our country if this kind of communication is going to continue.
This could be the most hysterical comment ever made. Arguing over Bethenny and Carole on the Internet is what concerns you about the future of our country? Not a egomaniac POTUS who is unfit for office? Amazing.
We don’t have to worry TTO MICH because the egomaniac POTUS is a “stable genius.”
I bet the POTUS’s hippocampus is YUUUUUUUGE! This I can tell you.
I’m with you on this, it’s amazing ..and kinda funny. You can see the trigger is there in an almost rabid way.
Omg this is hysterical. I love all the POTUS comments about how brilliant he is and the size of his hippocampus and whether or not this is what we should focus on right now. Some of you are really quick on the draw.
@Ronda: Zalo is entitled to his/her opinion. Seems you don’t like comments that you don’t agree with.
@spunky…my house, my opinion is all that matters! Thanks fpr stopping by and sharing your words of wisdom, now, “scroll on” BTW….Do you have opinions??? Defend Carole much??? Huh…that’s what I thought! Scroll on spunky! Next…
Maybe you should tell Carole to move on. She has been running her mouth on twitter all day and night, still trying desperately to take down Bethenny.
^This.
Her hard on for Bethenny is so obvious. Buh Bye Carole.
Some stuff I THINK I noticed. Tell me if I’m wrong: 1) Dorinda said her daughter does wear the family plaid. But then she said sort of under her breath that her daughter “sees [insert the guy’s name here] as her father. So, Sonja is not family so the family logo is verboten, and Dorinda’s daughter isn’t either? 2) Carol mocked Snja for only spouting negative stuff when she went off meds, and not happy things. What??? That’s exactly what happens sans anti-depressants, thus the name. 3) WTH are those what appears to be chain mail anklets Carol is wearing? Does somebody pay her to wear unflattering crap every day?
Dorinda is a complete hypocrite! and a DRUNK
I suspect that Dorinda is on something. Whether it is something as simple as adderall or a street drug. I’ve read that adderall will intensify the effects of alcohol. I haven’t looked into it but I would assume any upper would have the same effect. Dorinda’s anger is off the charts.
I think Carole was going for a chain mail warrior type look but she was verbally beat down by a woman in a flowy frock with clipped in hair.
I did notice that about Do. Her kid wears her stepdad’s tartan, how pretentious.
I agree w Erika’s first comments on B. I also watched show from beginning n examples brought up before B became wealthy n etc, spot on. Ramona eye so bizarre. Looked. Creepy. She Asked to change seats but did herself a disservice. To last week comments of how young great RAmona looked -$ is wonderful for all “that help” many of us putter thru. Just tossing out. Could B stating Carole clingy be referring to Adam? Seems reasonable after revisiting “coffee””. TT. U really r best. Feel better. Ps. U r entirely correct about sudden withdrawal from antidepressants. Hell even commercials say that. Ps. Tinsley was collateral damage for C. Necessary for battle w B
You gotcher Greek chorus, you gotcher peanut gallery, you gotcher backseat drivers, and you gotcher Bethenny Frankel. Bethenny needs to HOLD THE FLOOR at ALL times. She did not STFU through the entire reunion when anyone said something she didn’t like. She talked over, interrupted, contradicted and made snide comments throughout everything Carol said. Bethenny seldom listens to anyone; she is too busy formulating what she is going to say or “Touretting” out whatever just to drown out the other person. I can understand how she would have ignored Carole’s texts saying she was focusing on consoling her newly widowed friend, and love you, and happy holidays, we will talk when we get back. WTF is so hard to understand? And Beth could easily have said, “I FELT hurt when you didn’t have time for me.” Carole could have clarified and everything could have gone on. But Beth did not have anyone with a large hippocampus to model behavior for her growing up, so that didn’t happen.
LOL I want some of what you are smoking..
Bethenney couldn’t get a word in edge wise the first two parts of the reunion. Hell when Andy would ask Bethenny a question the coven would start cackling. 3 grown ass women acting like 2 year olds.
SQUACK SQUACK SQUACK…
You don’t like her…………..fine but grow up and act like adults!
YIKE! I completely “dumped” the last part of the reunion from memory because it was so unpleasant. But now that you bring it up, you are absolutely right. Now I DO remember the fishwife, harridan, cackling behavior. Bethenny does do that interrupting so often, it was ALMOST funny when “the Dream Team” ganged up to turn the tables. But I don’t like when anyone does it.
P.S. No smoking (or baking), just another senior moment!
So now Carole’s friendship is over with Tinsley because it is not shown on TV anymore. Poor Tinsley, seriously.
My favourite moment of this season was Luann’s cabaret show, she did it so professional and she was funny! Who cares if she did it because as Dorinda meant ‘twisted the idea of fame’? She delivered and it was tv gold.
Sonja had so many good quotable this season. I loved the “I have a very small ‘hicanisis,” but I have a very huge vagina. Apparently.” And so deadpan. Pure gold.
Andy tried to sling back some shit on Carole too, when he remarked “you know Trump is a very stable genius.” But Carole was so wound up she missed it. I think.
The huge vagina comment left me in stitches! Sonja is truly an icon
Some people like everything fast and dramatic and blunt and over the top–that’s Bethenny. Other people like things calmer and without confrontation–that’s Carole. Bethenny enjoys a battle–you could see it on her face. Carole doesn’t–you could see that on her face too. Carole just felt like she finally had to speak up. Bethenny was very aggressive during this third reunion episode–interrupting, getting out of her seat and putting her phone right in Carole’s face and calling her whatever she called her then (I can’t remember exactly), mocking her and making those hand motions. All that was very over-the-top aggressive and made Bethenny look bad.
I greatly respect Bethenny’s amazing charity work, but to me she is way too intense and aggressive as a friend. It would be exhausting. She thrives on drama and creates it.
Carole had hope for their friendship during filming. It wasn’t until the show started airing and she saw Bethenny’s confessional comments that she got really hurt and started speaking out in her blog. As viewers, we experience the show and the blogs happening at the same time, but it’s not that way for them. That’s why Carole said she wasn’t harsh to Bethenny during the show (i.e., during filming). She didn’t start until the blogs (i.e., when the show is airing).
Carole didn’t like how Bethenny said she had this need to latch on to a new BFF (Tinsley), as if she (Carole) is some sort of needy person. So Carole was trying to say she and Tinsley were not super-close, as Bethenny was portraying them–because Carole isn’t needy and didn’t want to be portrayed that way by Bethenny. But in trying to defend herself against Bethenny’s charge of neediness, Carole ended up hurting Tinsley by downplaying their friendship. It’s too bad that Carole couldn’t really see Tinsley during that part (because Dorinda was seated between them). I don’t think Carole meant to hurt Tinsley at all.
I hated to see them arguing about careers. They both have had great careers. Bethenny started a company and became a multimillionaire–that’s impressive! Carole was a respected journalist. I don’t think it’s fair for Bethenny to say that just because Carole’s career was in the past, it doesn’t matter. Plenty of people scale back in their 50s and 60s. If you can afford it financially, more power to you. Again, Bethenny is a go-go-go person. Carole is more chill. Live and let live.
Bethenny’s point was — I THINK because I don’t know her personally — that Carole “scaled back” on her career almost 20 years ago.
@SD: A great well thought out post. I noticed too that Carole wasn’t that upset with Bethenny until
the show aired. People forget the timing.
You know Aviva was GETTING HER LiFE watching Bethenny eviscerate Carole.
B executed on many of Aviva’s contentions toward Carole and it made me understand and agree with AD’s beliefs about CR..
The most sad moment of the reunion (and the Bethenny/Carole saga) came for me last night when Carole diminished her friendship with Tinsley. Carole was so intent on proving Bethenny wrong on EVERYTHING, she was willing to trash a friendship with another woman. I didn’t think anything any of these women could do could shock me anymore, but that did. It was very telling on Carole.
I am glad to see the season end. It had become uncomfortable to watch.
I had forgotten that Adam was Scott’s friend so I guess Carole didn’t need Tinsley anymore (when she and Adam traveled with them on Instagram it was private jets that obv Scott paid for…) when they ended things. Adam made lots of high profile friends through Carole and is an operator IMO.
I really loved the footage of Sonja moving out of the townhouse , very real when she found her daughter’s step stool. I wish we saw more. Didn’t Avery grow up in Ramona’s apt ? What a different reaction from Ramona, really no emotion.
What do you think caused the scar on Ramonas cheek? Car accident? Bad plastic surgery procedure? Make up covered a discoloration.
The Bravo folks really know how to kick the girls when they’re down by zeroing in on Ramonas eyes.
I really hope Bethenny never retires since that must render a person irrelevant and their career null and void. Also, did I miss Bethenny’s regrets or is she like Vanderpump and all her minuses are still somehow pluses?
She regretted calling Dorinda a drunk on the plane.
Of all things…
I think Carole proved she’s not such a great friend last night. Her constant need to dismiss Tinsley as a legitimate friend was very telling. She did this several times and each time, Tinsley became more upset until, if you watched carefully, she wiped away tears while listening to Carole’s cold denial of their “closeness.” Carole came across as a user, who discards friends on a whim. She tells us this is because she is so rational and “sane.” Sure Carole!
I thought a lot of Carole’s anger was rooted in Bethenny’s interaction with Adam about the charity, but after watching the reunion, I can see that Bethenny’ s jabbing at Carole about her career and age were major triggers for Carole. Carole feels inadequate compared to Bethenny. She looked foolish comparing her resume with Bethenny. Carole should have added that she sells her clothes via twitter because that seems like a revenue stream for her.
Can’t wait for next season!
Her behavior certainly belied her tagline about LOYALTY in the marathon of life.
If carol thinks Bethenny is bashing her , then she needs to read comments ya’all are saying to each other. Petty petty crap. Women having each other’s back. Huh.
One more observation, Carole is good at writing her grievances out, so Carole had the upper hand throughout the season with her blogs (which she claimed no one reads). When it comes time for verbal confrontations, Bethenny is so fast and deadly with her readings, I’ve yet to see anyone get the better of her.
Carole probably took hours before the reunion making up that hippocampus story to “declare” & explain with such fake superiority “just at the right time” in her reality.
‘fake superiority”
You nailed it’.
Carol is insane. For the life of me I cannot see how anyone could think her behavior was justified. All season long she said biting things about Bethenny and they weren’t in her talking heads (after the fact)they were in real time. She never once gave me the impression that she wanted to fix their friendship, she seemed annoyed and cold all season. She’s a very sad woman clinging to a youth that has passed. She totally used Tinsley to appear more youthful to Adam….as if waking up beside her sans the makeup wasn’t a clear indicator of her real age. For someone with such high intellect I was amused that she honestly thought screenshots from red scarf guy were better proof than the actual conversation and why was this guy sending screenshots anyways? It makes Carol look like she was desperate for information from anyone willing to say bad things about Bethenny.
I find it humorous when any of these women play the innocent act. All of them say viscous things about each other and then quibble about who’s was worse…if this is high society I’m fine right where I’m at.
This windowlicker thanks you for mentioning the extra large hippocampus! Hilariously desperate Carole.
Carol is just an old bitter hag. She sucks. Tinsley is super annoying too
Hey Carole pull out your marathon sneakers and go take a hike. Or did you sell them on your online store?
What’s up with Carole’s Twitter Feed yardsale anyway?
Lol!
OMG, I know!
Her Twitter account has become an online Home Shopping Channel for the ugliest
hunting clothes with a military motif mixed in????
I don’t know what she’s pushing, or why, but holy balls of shitty fur!
I got completely distracted by her twitter px’s earlier today and was going to mention it but decided against it thinking I must be missing something, then Tamara questioned it…I still don’t understand. Is it normal to lay an Alexander McQueen dress on the floor to photograph for “resale”? Why is she selling her clothing this way, we saw her shop in consignment shops in her 1st (?) season, don’t get me wrong, I’m all for buying and selling second hand but it just seems attention seeking and like she wants to be complimented re her wardrobe?
She needs the money now that her Bravo check is gone and she is using the last week or so of the reunions to advertise her items while people still follow her.
Eesh.
Wonder if she’s selling her Forever 21 stuff too. She loved to tell people when she was wearing it. LOL
By mentioning her work as a reporter, Carole seems to be suggesting that she currently has a career as a journalist. That’s definitely not the case; it’s been too long since she filed any news stories. And it’s debatable whether her other writing constitutes a career (as opposed to a hobby that’s brought in some income), since her output is relatively low and she can’t meet deadlines.
Also, given her deadline problems and low output, she probably won’t last long at her new job as an online writer (blogger? producer?) for Verve/Vox—unless she was hired only for her notoriety (I.e. as clickbait). It will be interesting to see where she goes from there.
I think here need for vengeance will keep her writing for a while. The need to show everyone that she is a journalist will fuel her to meet deadlines.
Maybe so. But I doubt Carole will be able to pull it off for long, because the habit of blowing off deadlines is a hard one to break.
I warn beginning writers about this when I give talks about what it takes to succeed in this (my) business.
I think the boat incident was definitely scary but because of how dramatic Ramona and Sonja have been in the past and how they over exaggerate situations I think their reaction of screaming and crying was a ridiculous performance. As far as who is right and who is wrong with the Bethany Carole fight, I think they both have huge egos and can’t or won’t take responsibility for what they have said.
234 comments! I haven’t even finished watching the episode…. I have a lot of catching up to do.
Imo, Carole comes across as such a projector, and her attempts to psycho-label Bethenny really boomeranged onto her, as they should have. Good for Bethenny reciting her resume’ as an answer to Carole’s insisting that Bethenny has “a lot of time on her hands”. Seriously? We have seen few people as active and productive as Bethenny. That remark of Carole’s, her pre-show group anti-Bethenny set-up, and her hurting Tinsley’s feelings by seeming to indicate that they are not really close friends— is all, imo, anybody needs to know about Carole. Arctic cold, manipulative, and incredibly arrogant — and the bully she accuses everyone else of being.
@scottishwitch Spot on!
Spot on @scottishwitch.
Thanks, micmac!
It’s a new game!! Apparently we’re building a housewife starting with big brain parts. So far we have Leanne from Dallas and her big amygdala, Carole and her hippocampus who’s next? What part next? Theresa and her frontal lobe? Nene and her brain stem? I’m really curious who is going to be the next part of our Franken-wife.
LOL.
I wish someone could tell me what was going on with Carol’s face. Did she have work done or is that her new resting bitch face? She couldn’t seem to navigate her facial expressions. Almost looked like she had the mumps. I hear they’re making a comeback. And it doesn’t matter that you had them before.
Carole’s face has been re done a bit if you can believe all those plastic surgeons that compare before and after pictures and comment on public figure faces.
Carole denied it though and said the rumors were made up by people who hate her….yikes, that sounds familiar.
I may be shallow as a teacup saucer to comment on looks as people cant help how they look unless they have the money to redo themselves. But Carole’s face is too much, almost like some cartoonist rendition that accentuates certain features of a public figure person…..I think its the too tight huge round apple cheeks and the teeth ……I cant explain it …I want to squint when I look at her because something feels painful about it …ok I’am probably crazy because I don’t have a giant thingamajig in my brain or enough thingamajigs in there lol
I think it is obvious all the ladies have had some work done…except maybe Tinsley Nothing wrong with it unless you over do it and start looking like something out of a Wax Museum.
In an attempt to lighten things up here: I sure hope that at some point Bravo will give us a montage of all of Bethenny’s imitations of the other girls. No matter if you like her or not, or don’t like to see people get hurt, she is a GENIUS at mimicry. She NAILS the facial and body language, the voices and — when it enhances it — the fictional narrative. I think she is the best of all of the Bravolebrities at that except for Santino’s serial fictional story of Tim Gunn and “Where’s Andre” at the Red Lobster.
Nanette, I am with you on that!
The most current FunnyGirl moment was her imitation of Ramona at the speed dating shin dig.
Bent over, showing major cleavage, while sucking on a straw from a long neck glass between her tits, offering something to some guy, using a very sexual, Marilyn Monroe voice. LOL Fricking funny shit right there!
AND I loved Santino’s version of Tim Gunn. My favorite, “Daniel Franco, where did you go? Whoa Whoa, See ya on Season Three, Daniel Franco, where did you go?”
Cracked me up! I love that shit.
I laughed and rewatched that imitation of Ramona numerous times, hilarious stuff right there!
Bethenny has a second career waiting for her as a stand up comic if she wants it.
Maybe she and Luann can do an act together.
I have been firmly Team Carole until this last reunion episode. I think Carole’s treatment of Tinsley was horrible (even though I thought their friendship was only to annoy Bethenny).
I think Bethenny is basically a good person, but I hope she looks at her ‘performance’ on the reunion and regrets the ugliness she puts out there.
Which leaves me without a team, although maybe I’ll be Team Luann, even though she drove me nuts last season. I liked her on WWHL after the reunion.
Well, that was disturbing.
carole was so cruel to tinsley; totally discounting their friendship! i really felt for tinsley. first sonja trashing Tinsley and really abusing her when she stayed w/sonja (stories to the press, shes a terrible guest, don’t have my interns take any pkgs, scott paid for gift card, scott pays for everything, etc……) now carole doesn’t need her because carole is no longer w/adam. no more free trips. carole is wacked. she does need to get a life outside of twitter and blogs and trashing bethenny. bethenny was also very cruel – discounting carole’s entire career just because it was a while ago. she has written books and done other things since ABC. As someone said, hopefully bethenny will rewatch and realize her horrible behavior and mayb see why see has so few real friends in life (if any). being a success does not automatically make you a good friend/person. Bethenny’s charity is about empowering woman but she really doesn’t support the others on the show too much with their ventures. usually she’s very critical and states there’s no real business. now she needs sonja and luann on her team!!!