Early this morning Bethenny gave an update on Twitter about her graving process. It sounds like she and Dennis were seeing each other at the time of his passing.
I don’t really know what to add. I am glad that she is inching back online. I actually think this is where she does of lot of sharing. When Byrn is with her it seems she doesn’t hang out with anyone else very often. Except for Dennis.
Let’s hope she finds some peace soon.
My heart breaks for her. I had 2 years to prepare myself-she never thought this would happen. He was obviously her “safe place” -the phone call she made to him from Cartenega spoke volumes. She’s been in my thoughts.
yep been there, a sudden death. hope she can find hope and strength, and the haters
just leave her alone for awhile. i have not stopped crying over john mc cain. was on twitter
following all the accounts from people regarding him. saw this tweet, and just thought i would respond.
Bethaney has been my favorite from the very beginning. Can’t help but love and admire her. My thoughts and prayers are definitely with her. I remember the phone call as well. I truly believe Dennis was her safe place in all her storms.
This is heartbreaking. My thoughts are with Bethenny
So very sorry for Bethenny’s tragic loss. Dennis “got her” and was undoubtedly a great support. She called him from Columbia when everyone, especially Carole, was being so mean to her. And she mentioned to Sonja that he only wanted her to be around people who were positive for her, or words to that effect. Hopefully, good and true friends are with her now, and more such people will enter her life. Genuine people of a type like Dani on SC, who really love you just for you.
I have to admit up until this season, I was not much of a Bethany fan. I had thought she and Carole had been the mean girls in seasons past. This season, especially in Colombia I felt very sorry for her. Her private life was difficult and this trip was clearly agony for her. I also used to like Dorinda. Not anymore.
Getting back to communicating is a good sign that she is making progress healing. I don’t expect Jason to give her anything positive, but those other NY bitches had better. Maybe a nice trip with Sonja (and maybe Kyle). Never thought I would recommend Sonja as an Rx for anything. But she makes Beth laugh and that goes a long way toward healing. Laughter and sunshine, best free meds.
Anyone that follows Bethenny on Instagram can see that she leads a very lonely life, and whilst I don’t mean it in a negative way but if she’s not watching movies with Brynn, with her glam team when she has an event or playing with her dogs she does seem to be seeking comfort from her online supporters. She actively asks people for advice about silly little things which she should go to a friend for. It’s sad that her small circle has gotten even smaller. My heart breaks for her
Sorry I meant to say “she should be able to go to a friend for”
I see Bethenny as empowered, loving her daughter & managing a very big empire. She does have close friends. Her charitable work is awesome. How many people with $$ aren’t doing with their lives anything close to Bethenny? I see her as being authentic. So feel for her grieving process too & thanking Twitter followers for just letting it be. Hard to breathe. She is in the midst of grief.
With all do respect….do you really know Betheny has close friends?I’m sorry, but I read post after post about who is close to her and what her relationship was with Dennis. If there is anything we have all seen from B in the past decade…it’s that she doesn’t let anyone in. Least of all the viewers. She’s admittedly wounded. I don’t think anyone knows her. If they do, we wouldn’t know anyhow. She’s smart and driven and makes for good reality TV, but she’s certainly not the kinda gal to let people in.
She has mentioned good friends in Miami, etc. that she met at college. LuAnn never mentions friends not on the show… Ramona just gives huge numbers. Sonja doesn’t mention them either. I can’t think of a single solitary Housewife that mentions the names and amount of friends they have that DON’T appear on their respective show.
Oh wait… Kyle mentions friends that don’t appear on RHOBH. Kris Jenner and one Ms. Bethenny Frankel.
In other words, the only person who says she doesn’t have friends is Ramona. Why the hell would one take Ramona’s word as gospel?
I agree, why are there comments like ‘Bethenny can not sustain any friendship?’, when the HW’s might have friends & family that do not want to be shown/mentioned on the show even? There are small numbers in each francise of the HW’s (even if they all are enough many to watch).
How about just wishing her some peace. Sorry, but I’ve had enough speculation(s).
What’s so sad about Dennis’s passing is he wasn’t ready to go. He wasn’t tying to leave, he had an accidental overdose & realized it too late. I don’t know about his pain in particular but, to have asked for Narcan alone tells me he made a mistake. It happens, sadly people were horrible on Twitter with their comments about his overdose to Bethenny & to Dennis’s exwife, as if he deserved it for taking pills.
I’ve had chronic back pain since college (30 years) & several surgeries later, under pain management, many epidural injections & ablutions, recently I had a spinal cord stimulator implanted, along with more drugs than I can remember trying to help control my pain. Those who suffer with real, debilitating, chronic pain have no choice but to take medication to attempt some semblance of normal life. But with that comes responsibility & organizing yourself in every way to avoid what happened to Dennis. The SCS hasn’t helped me so I still have to take meds. I keep them in a daily pill box, if it’s not in the box then I’ve already taken it & I don’t go get more out of the bottle, I wait till it’s time for my next dose. It seems simple enough to those who don’t suffer from pain, please believe me it isn’t. There are days the pain is so bad, you can’t think straight & that’s when accidental overdose happens. You don’t feel any relief, so must not have taken your pill, but did you(?) so you go & get another. It happened to me yesterday, my pain was so bad I was in tears, my daughter said “Mom, you’re in so much pain, just take another pill” my reply was “I can’t, I don’t want to end up like Bethenney’s fiancé.” This is real time stuff here, it sucks but it happens & it’s heartbreaking. The only thing positive about this tragedy, is Bethenny & his family know he wasn’t trying to kill himself, he didn’t want to leave them, he made a tragic mistake. May God give them comfort & strength, I pray they find a way to heal from their terrible loss. ?
Jo..Your story is gut wrenching and just so sad. I am so sorry. Oftentimes “tolerance” becomes an issue especially after long term use of pain meds. Dennis was a big guy and that could have been the case with him. When I worked surgical floors ( many years ago) we always informed patients to not wait until the pain was extremely bad because it takes longer for the pain medications to work. We learned that taking medication before the pain got too bad between 1-10 on a scale, helped with relief for some. I often hear of Acupuncture helping with chronic pain but I do understand that insurance does not cover it and it can be expensive if used often. I do hope you find some relief with good Doctors and good medicine. I worry about some of these pain management Doctors as they prescribe for long periods of time without monitoring their patients for long periods. Please take care of yourself and use your pill boxes to help you track your meds.
Cheryle, I cannot speak for anyone else’s pain management physician, but I can speak about my own – he is VERY involved in my monthly care. I take a very low dosage narcotic. He tried to get me to take years ago a time-released morphine tablet, but it made me so foggy that all I wanted to do is sleep constantly and really, all I need is something that doesn’t kill 100% of my pain, but just to take the edge off of some of it, so that I can continue to work the job that I love so much. I have a severe degenerative vertebral condition, where literally all my vertebrae have degenerated to the point where they’ve all collapsed on top of each other and the disc material (discs are not bones or joints – they are the jelly-like material that acts like a gel substance in between your vertebrae – this I know because I also work for a spinal surgeon) and that degenerative condition has caused horrible sciatica which runes down the back of my right leg mainly, although sometimes the bilateral legs, all the way into my feet. When I first started seeing the pain management physician, I signed a 5-page very detailed contract with him of what I could and could not do as his patient – if I violate a single one line of that contract, I would be fired as his patient. I see him every 3 months for spinal catheter procedures (I can’t have just regular epidural injections anymore because there is literally no space for the needles to even fit in anymore due to the severe degeneration, so this involves threading a catheter up my spinal canal and shooting cortisone thru it to try and get at least 3 lives covered in cortisone), every other month, I see either him or his nurse practitioner. They random drug screen me 4 times a year – I never know when or what appointment that will happen – that is intentional on their part. Trust me, if I could take any anti-inflammatories instead of a low dose narcotic, I would; unfortunately, I have severe anaphylactic reactions to almost all of them, plus I have kidney disease, so anti-inflammatories will never be an option for me. I also have two titanium plates and a whole lot of screws holding my neck together from the same disease. I cannot have surgery on my lower back because the damage is so severe, plus my nephrologist is waiting for my right kidney to finish dying off so he can remove it before I could ever have any kind of lower spine surgery. What I will say about legitimate pain management physicians is that they monitor their patients very closely, not only for our protection and good health, but also to protect themselves from being accused of any wrongdoing for prescribing narcotics.
As far as Bethenny is concerned, my biggest worry for her right now and for the future is that I truly believe Dennis acted not only as her comfort and sounding board in all the crap she’s had to go thru with Jason, but I think he was also physically protective of her when she would have to be around him too and her emotional support when he was cyber-harassing her. I worry that now that Dennis is gone, Jason will feel more free to run roughshod over her and could potentially begin his harassment all over again and that scares me for her (been there, done that, got the T-shirt with my ex-husband on that one myself). I think Dennis was probably the only male in Bethenny’s life that truly provided stability, emotional support, and a stable base for her throughout all that shit-storm with Jason. I just pray that Jason has learned from the past (although after that crap he pulled in their latest court hearing, I certainly am NOT convinced that he has) and that he just leaves her the hell alone. I pray that Bethenny truly does find love again with someone equally as loving and stable as Dennis was for her. The thing that pisses me off is that I’ve read on other sites, not TT’s, where people have commented that the reason Bethenny had said on the girls trip that she and Dennis were doing that “90-day separation” so to speak was probably because or most likely because she knee Dennis was “a drug addict”, which I do NOT believe to be the case. Did it ever occur to people that maybe Bethenny just wanted Dennis to make sure Dennis and his soon to be ex wive had truly resolved all the emotional attachment they had with each other and just maybe Bethenny was classy enough not to ever want to stand in the way of Dennis and his wife possibly reconciling, that maybe she wasn’t comfortable feeling like she would be coming between a family? I think this is more of a likely scenario than the more negative one.
Golly, I should have proofread first on multiple fronts – but it should have read “three levels”, not three lives. Duh – I know better than not to proofread. Sorry for any other typos – I was typing too fast because I was in a hurry. 🙂
I too have chronic pain and I have a contract with my doctor and we both monitor it. I have been reluctant to use the daily pill boxes because I keep mine with me in my purse and I’d rather not have things not in their prescription bottle. I do count them religiously though and when I am home all day I will take that days meds out and that’s it. So far that works for me. I feel so badly for Bethenny, I kind of have a love hate with her but I love her work ethic and drive and love how she loves her daughter. I get how broken she has always been and that makes me not totally hate her all the time. She is very prickly and that makes me sad. Some of her sings at others are terrible and not nice at all and that’s when I shake my head. But I think as another commented that Dennis got her, I feel that is true. He was her rock. I wish her the best and do hope she finds peace in this soon.
I am also a chronic pain patient. I am in many support groups. I can’t tell you how many people like us talk about suicide as an alternative to our daily/constant pain. Many chose that road. While I know Dennis didn’t chose that intentionally, he obviously had some issues with the medications he was on. I wish the public was more educated on chronic pain, the toll it takes on us, and how it affects our mental state.
I agree. I have a family member suffering from fiber miaglia. Just had a brain aneurysm, 2 procedures and suffers from seizures. The amount of pain medications is staggering. Mistakes in that kind of situations is immense. The loss even greater when this happens.
Love to everyone here living with chronic pain. You’re not alone. I’m doing better with mine since I was finally able to leave a very abusive situation. It’s harder when you’re older, and sick, and broke. But I have amazing friends. So lucky to be where I now. Since I’m in a place where I feel positively delivered from hell, I just want to tell all of you who are hurting that I’m the kind of sappy fuck who actually really does care about people I’ve never met, like y’all, like TT, like Bethenny. Apologize if this offends anyone but I pray for a lot of you because it’s all I know to do. I don’t know what I believe anymore. But prayer is a long habit in me. And I’m pretty sure it won’t hurt any a y’all :-). Ah Bethenny, I have always liked you, your spunk, your pluck, even your hardness I understood. What she has done for displaced people is nothing short of amazing. So sorry she has lost her closest friend and her Cookie. TL, dr: sincere dorky heartfelt love to all of you.
It is good that some of you have found reputable pain management specialists. I obtain medical records to do medical assessements for doctors mostly Psychiatrists so that medications can be prescribed and their is some real neglect. There are currently two well-known pain management specialists in the area under investigation for their prescriptions, one having 16 fatal deaths. I hope you all have the best in medical care because you all need very special monitoring and treatment.
Ultimately WE are responsible for our care. No matter what the docs give us. There are times when I — and most other people I know in chronic pain — just feel that one more pill will either kill the pain, or kill us. And, when it gets that bad … sometimes it doesn’t matter which. Poor Dennis did not make that choice. That is what I find the saddest part. At least his loved ones know he didn’t intend to leave them.
Well said. It’s about time there was open and honest dialogue on the risks that long term pain medication poses to those that are prescribed it.
I know Shannon and Yolanda are both cucu for coco puffs, but I really appreciated their highlighting of alternatives to traditional medication, even if their storylines didn’t give the greatest depiction of them in practice. It’s obviously not a long term solution to those suffering from recurring pain and illness but treatments such as cannabis, edibles, essential oils or even pain management therapy could really be useful to those who are reliant on a pill to see them through their day.
Bless your kind and generous heart.
Strength to carry on. The humanitarian efforts are magnificent and awesome to behold. Let grief flow, as a river of love. A heart broken side open is most receptive to another’s pain. I see you skinny bolinks. Persevere the thick an thin. With love.
Well said!
TT thanks for sharing.
{{{BIG HUGS!}}} TO BETHENNY!
My heart goes out to Bethenny. It’s obvious that Dennis held a special place in her heart. Sudden, unexpected deaths like his are so much harder to grasp than when you know someone is going to die. When my husband died from Alzheimers, much sooner than we had expected, I found that going on the computer and writing letters to him was so helpful. I’d often be typing through my tears, but you can pour out your soul and, believe it or not, it is very cathartic. I hope she finds a way to deal with her overwhelming grief – she was in a rather fragile place before all this happened. I also think that knowing it was an accidental overdose almost makes it worse – the realization that none of it needed to happen must be almost unbearable.
I am so sad for Bethenny. If she was my daughter, I’d pack up her and Brynn and bring them to my house and take care of them. Cook for them, go on walks, and just show B she’s loved until she starts to heal. I hope she has someone in her life to do that for her.
Can I come live with you?
That’s beautiful and I hope someones doing that for her too.
I hope they postpone RHONY production until next year. B and LuAnn need to get back to a healthy state of being and would hate to see their turmoil (or anyone’s really) be thrown into the ‘ratings’ equation.
Really real idea about postponing production if needed. That would show some real compassion. I hope your idea makes it to Bravo production. Maybe consider sending that as a request? Thanks.
This is the hardest thing for me to understand about Bethenny’s mother. The older you get and the more people you lose the more you want to keep those you love close.
You are so sweet
Love this! ??
Lost my father to a sudden tragic accident, and it is life changing and so hard to process. My prayers go out to Bethenny & Brynn. All these years later and I still hurt, the suddenness if it all is so hard to get over.
So much loss. My prayers are with her and Brynn. 🙁
I feel so sorry for Bethenny, losing Dennis suddenly and unexpectedly must be a devastating blow. This is when she needs true friends to rally round and give her emotional, physical and practical support, When I saw her and Carole’s early friendship, I thought she had found someone “like her” to match or rather balance out her acerbic wit,sense of humour and no bs approach to life. I wish their friendship was what I thought it was because Carole could be a great support to Bethenny at this time. Alas.
My heart breaks for Bethenny. She was already going through so much in Cartagena and we saw her break down, I can only imagine what this did to her. She’s such a strong woman and will get through this, but we all need to remember to check on our “strong” friends. As strange as this is, I see parallels between Bethenny and Jill’s current situations with grief. I hope Jill can be the friend to B that she once was and help guide her through this. That I would love to see next season.
Dorinda, Jill and Carole could really help Bethenny during her time of grief.
Here’s hoping.
Dorinda isn’t who she seemed to be at first. Maybe she’s going through her own rocky times, not mine to say. But I sure as hell don’t want her near Bethenny. Double that for Carole. What a betrayal of friendship and what a cold hard bitch she really is. I despise Carole. I will hope for Jill and Lu and many other people to circle around Queen B with love, and feed her, and do her laundry, and just be available without intruding.
Insert eye roll
And …? Seriously, WTF is this in response to?
I’m guessing the post?