Ramona has invited Dorinda over to see her newly rennovated Hamptons home that looks almost exactly like it did before. The house does look fantastic. Especially the kitchen. Luann and Sonja walk in and Luann is pointing out flaws before she even gets to Ramona. Luann is extremely critical.
Tinsley and Carole meet up at Carole’s place. Both groups are over sharing bout their medical issues from Colombia. I must fast forward through this. Tinsley continues to underplay the severity of the boat ride in Colombia. Carole tells Tinsley that she is used to being in abusive situations and has learned to let it roll off her back. Tinsley cries. I have to fast forward the other groups conversations. TMI you fucktards. TMI.
Okay, y’all I may not be able to continue to recap this episode. I was finally enjoying seeing Bethenny’s apartment and then conversation returned. I don’t want to write about I don’t want to read comments about it literally makes me ill. I’m not accustomed the less level of uncouth conversation.
I’m out. Conversations like this are the reason I stopped watching Real Housewives of Dallas in season one. I’m going to be physically ill.
I’m off to watch Big Brother. Talk amongst yourselves.
I’m out with you. Let’s go to the hootenanny and have some hooch.
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What is this microscopic bit of splotchy detritus? Oh, I see. It’s your personality. Carry on, darling. Winning!
Is that a ram? Why?
Angeline, It is evidently meant to be a sheep, and is the vehicle by which I am accused (along with other commenters) of mindlessly following my Supreme Shepherdess Tamara, without any independent thought process or opinions of my own. Not since my days at the Algonquin sipping pink gins in the Vicious Circle alongside Dorothy Parker have I encountered such a searing wit. I bleat my ennui in MaybeLike’s general direction.
Hootenanny – Hooch is too funny, BUT PLEASE do not ever let Vickie G. hear you say this. It is so much better than “whoop it up, woohoo” and she will steal it and use it and it will be more annoying than whoop/woohoo, WalMart’s “ring your bell” and “bada book, bada boom” combined!
Nanette, I live to be plagiarized. It fuels my bounteous martyr syndrome.
Totally agree with you. Disgusting! Way TMI
Well I’m not going to watch it at all.
Sheep 🐑
Okay, WTF am I missing (insert pic of Coyote here)?
Looks to me that ‘maybelike’ is calling you a follower by his/her little emoji, but instead of speaking the words, “You are a sheep,” has kindly offered an emoji of a ram.
They did it upthread to someone else too. Wasn’t even funny the first time, so no need to repeat it.
I’m fast forwarding through this entire episode.
So stupid.
The fake scary boat ride.
Fucktards.
Sonja with that diaper? Show some decorum.
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Can you imagine being stuck in a seat next to her for an entire flight smelling her poop and pee?
Well I made it through the whole episode, but I was only half watching as I was working on my computer. The only reason I’m commenting is because I was so disgusted by Luann’s behavior tonight. She is so classless & catty, and really has it out for Ramona. Go back to rehab you loser, you’ve got a lot of nerve saying Ramona has no class when it comes to decorating her house, when you are being sued by your own kids for screwing them out of their share of your old house!!
And whether you want to admit it or not, Luann, as nutty as Ramona is she looks fantastic for her age! She’s got more right to launch a skincare line (where you had to throw more shade) than you’ve got to “perform” a cabaret act.
Right on!
I (expletive) disagree. Luann has carried this show for at least the past two seasons. Ramona is nothing more than an entitled pain in the ass. She’d better start having a real story other than remodeling her boring places. Ramona is beyond her expiration date on this show.
Check out Bethenny’s twitter regarding the “skincare line” that supposedly doesn’t exist! Very interesting.
I don’t twitter, can you give me brief recap?
You don’t have to be on Twitter, I’m not, to go there and view others tweets. I think I’m known as a lurker. Go there often just to look. They offer you a box to type in a name you want to see. There are several Bethenny accounts so look for the blue check by her name.
Bethenny says she didn’t go because its not a real product and the company doesn’t exist
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I’ve looked and looked and can’t find anything.
I’m stupid when it comes to twitter. Can you recap please?
On your browser type a name in then type in Twitter. You will then be given pptions, the “real” Bethenny Frankel has blue check mark
Exactly! What a calculating move. She wasn’t over Ramon posting the picture or hanging out with her ex so she pounced on an opportunity. Lame. Housewives are starting to irritate me, so predictable. More and more, I’m enjoying Shahs, Southern Charm and Married to Medicine. I loved Andy and I still watch WWHL when the guests seem interesting but he’s coming across as such a hater lately, ugh.
Yeah, the topic has been over done! We want to see a neat house or some places not bathroom habits
Can you believe that!!! We finally had a chance to see Bethenny’s multi-million dollar renovated loft in SoHo and then cut for a talk about —. WTF? Who made that editing decision? That’s who needs to go.
Hey Slice! Good to know you’re still around!
I really miss being able to hit the “like” button! LIKE!
A snoozer of a season…
Eh I’m torn on the subject. I would personally never discuss “bathroom habits” because I was of course raised in an (overly) polite household. That’s learned behavior that’s permanently ingrained, but is it really for the better?
Its an antiquated Edwardian shame tactic stemming from an era wherein we – especially women – are made to feel guilty and shameful about natural, autonomous bodily functions. Why do I have to clench a fart so tight my side hurts when my male co worker can “rip one” and the brobregade will hysterically laugh?
You are NOT a 🐑! And that’s awesome. Thank you. I used to love this site for all the comments, but lately it’s just a lot of Baaaaaa(s)
So unless you are a fan of toilet talk, you must be a blind follower of TT? Stupid.
My friends and I discuss all of our health concerns. Several of us have IBS, colitis, fibroids, endometriosis, breast cancer, kidney cancer, ovarian cancer, food and other allergies, if there is a health issue, we share. I did not care for Ramonas Reno, it was lacking warmth and style. Beth’s seemed much nicer. I think i understand why mona seems to look not put together: she does everything on the cheap. I love that (most likely vintage) suit that Sonja had on, she looked lovely. So glad that we do not ever have to know about Carole and her “coffee, tea, or salads” love life.
Oh FFS and how childish of you!
Maybe contribute instead of trolling.
A lot of baaaaaa’s? Apparently you haven’t been reading the same comments as I have. The people on this site are by far the funniest, most diverse and interesting bunch you’d find anywhere, plus Tamara’s input is spot-on – I particularly love her stories about her life growing up as what sounds like an international traveler, and her anecdotes about her days as a teacher. The commenters are equally fascinating and from as far away as Australia. As Twilly said – maybe you should actually contribute something that doesn’t constitute a baaaaaaa in your mind. I’d look forward to reading it.
Completely agree, thank you for perfectly stating my sentiments about Tamara as well.
When I sadly heard the news about Dennis earlier, this is where I came to first. 💔
That’s a good point. Two things surprise me about adulthood. One – people never mature and are catty. Two – people talk about their poop way more than you want to hear. This episode confirms my observations.
I agree re TMI about body functions. I was shocked at how much they discussed it. I would never in a million years discuss such things with friends, let alone on national tv. And they did it repeatedly. ugh.
Seeing Carole continue her campaign against Bethenny (and enlisting her friends who hate Bethenny), I am so glad she’s gone. The interaction she had with Adam was so stilted and uncomfortable. It seems clear that they never see each other, despite her attempts to create the impression he is pursuing her. When he suggested they meet some time for coffee, and her awkward silence spoke volumes.
I can’t keep the feuds straight, but I didn’t understand Luann’s meanness re Ramona and her house. She was showing her unattractive countess side.
In an earlier episode Carole mentioned that she sees Adam for coffee which was code for their hooking up. Tonight when he suggested they get together for “coffee”, she replied that she doesn’t drink coffee any more but that she drinks tea.
She didn’t even invite Bethenny to her little magazine article party. How petty. She didn’t totally deny Adam. You could see in living color how much he matters to her and how much she hates Bethenny.
Raise your hand if you believe she’s been offered a meeting for a television series based on her book. Right, me neither.
She’s a bitter woman. She never had a story line and then she decided she would make a play to be head bitch of RHNY. She way overplayed her hand. If you come for the king you better make sure you have a kill shot. Carole didn’t kill Bethenny but she dang sure wounded her. All for a boy toy.
At least we don’t have to hear any more about Carole and her running the marathon like she was the only one. How long is she going to try to rest on those laurels?
Television shows are like that. You can have options to start again years after you had optioned the show. It simply means they are trying again to have a tv series. A widow who goes around trying to find love would be a good premise for a show it can have humor, drama and romance. The whole book made into tv show or movies is a mess. Not for the faint hearted.
Ramona has been trying to justify her decision to chase Tom up and down the east coast. Nobody’s is buying it. I think that Lu is trying to make a clean break of Ramona, as Beth did last year. Tough when you have to film together.
Tinsley graduated from Columbia?????? WTF
I got into Columbia back in 1978. Chose Boston College instead because my parents forced me to. They were paying.. Ghetto was the rationale. Columbia. Is. Not that coveted for east coast people. Decades later I watch my daughter play field hockey at Columbia. It is still as bad as it was in 1978.
My son attends Columbia. It is actually in a decent neighborhood and very safe. Lots of people and families. Maybe someone not familiar with NYC would think otherwise.
And I’m sure you are there at the edge of the campus watching field hockey and making sure your car doors are locked when you stop at intersections.
Morningside Heights is not a bad neighborhood.
Thank you Bushwick. Some people seem to think they know everything. In the suburbs you better lock your car when watching your kid play field hockey.
Morninside Heights is a nice neighborhood — unless you are unfamiliar with NYC.
Amen!
It’s rich with history and is home to some of the most prestigious schools and places of worship. The pre-war architecture is so magnificent that most of the neighborhood was deemed a historic district by the NYC Landmark Preservation Commision.
But if you don’t know, Morning Side Heights is ghetto….. 🤔🤔🤔
Sketchy car washes, moving companies, warehouses….. These are college kids in a crappy location at the edge of the campus. You people are absurd. I’m there every other weekend.
Maybe I’m jaded because although I live in Brooklyn, I will always be from the Lower East Side. When I see videos of what my neighborhood looked like in the 70’s & 80’s with buildings burned out, it looked like a war zone but that was my normal, along with all of the urban blight that came with living in the inner city during that time. Streets smarts was ingrained in me from jump. I’m not absurd. I feel safe in Morningside Heights and appreciate the beauty of its architecture & history.
It’s an Ivy League school.
Not sure I understand the rationale of blowing off and Ivy because of the neighborhood.
Kind of like not going to Harvard because of the snow.
Thank you. Have you walked around the Yale campus? In a shady neighborhood. And UofP is likewise. All urban schools deal with the same thing and I have found that their security is typically top notch.
Columbia in the 70s even through the 90s was sketchy. Now it’s an amazing neighborhood. I’m a New Yorker and the neighborhoods change. Washington heights is the new buy cheap because it’s becoming trendy area. Morningside is already gentrified.
I’m surprised Tinsley got in to Columbia in the first place. I also remember Kelly Bensimon saying she went there. It is shocking because Tinsley pretends to be so clueless as if that makes her more appealing. Who gave her that idea. Where did smarty pants Carole go to college ?
Wiki says Hunter College BA, NYU MBA
Carole has a B.A. from Hunter College in New York. Carole has a master’s in business from NYU. Tinsley went to prep school at Lawrenceville which is a very competitive New England boarding school. She first went to UNC Chapel Hill and transferred to Columbia. I believe the transfer was because future husband Topper Mortimer was attending college in New York.
I will be curious to learn at the reunion if Sonja was able to rent her townhouse for $32,000 per month. It sounded like the realtor was suggesting a rental of $22,000?
The Lawrenceville School is located in Lawrenceville, NJ.
Can you tell I am from the South? New Jersey, New England all in the North to me.
That’s funny!
Both Lawrenceville and UNC Chapel Hill are academically competitive schools. I guess she’s no dummy. (When my DH was at Lawrenceville, it meant almost automatic entry into the Ivy League college of your choice.)
There are some kids who have attended Lawrenceville who were not what one would call academic stars, but who were very socially connected and wealthy. This is not to say that it is not a good school academically.
Probably true of many of the top notch private academies, I imagine.
Just so! Point being that admittance to these places is no verification of the stamp of genius.
If she’s a legacy that would definitely help her get into schools she wouldn’t otherwise be accepted to based on her academic record.
I took what the realtor said as meaning it had to be under $30,000. I think she said it had to have a 2 in front, as in $29,000 or below. It’s my understanding Sonja never did find renters.
that is how i took it as well. just get under the 32,000, to like 29,28 thousand. hope she gets it rented. probably not so high for nyc. ues.
and it is a huge house. it might be just the financial break she needs to
secure her future. wishing her good luck.
Yeah, just to get a 2 as the start number. It is very much a real estate mental thing. Actually, it is just a sales thing. It is why products are often offered up as “29.99” instead of just $30.
There is allegedly a Columbia program that a lot of NYC wives without Ivy League pedigrees go to, after they marry their hedge fund hubbies, so they have socially acceptable upscale academic credentials. I can’t remember the name of it, but allegedly it is not the regular full time undergrad program. Don’t know which program Tinsley went to.
Tinsley apparently went to Chapel Hill her first semester, dropped out and did a gap year or semester with Habitat for Humanity then went to Columbia so she graduated at age 22 or so. Kelly Bensimon went to the School of Continuing Studies at Columbia as an adult toward the end of her modeling career.
Actually the college at Columbia Kelly graduated from us the School of General Studies designed for adults who are returning to college after a break in their studies. Kelly was 30 when she graduated.
Thanks! You’ve got all the scoops, Nolagal! -:)!
It’s Barnard.
As an alumna of a Seven Sisters college, Mount Holyoke I’m not sure if youre implying that Barnard is some sort of window dressing or finishing school for the elite but it’s a well respected institute of higher education. The Seven Sisters came about when colleges & universities were separated by gender. They are actually considered the women’s Ivy League and most are affiliated with their male counterparts.
Barnard – Columbia
Mount Holyoke – Dartmouth
Brown Mawr – U Penn & Princeton
Radcliffe – Harvard
Vassar – Yale
Wellesley – Independent
Smith – Independent
Yes, and students can take classes at Barnard or Columbia.
Right, and a well known alleged angle is to apply to Barnard which is allegedly easier to get into.
My bad with the aggressive auto correct. It’s BRYN MAWR, not Brown….
And one more thing-does anyone remember the scene where they were filming Carole running the marathon? I recall her bumping into Heather as if she hadn’t seen her in years! Now Heather is her best friend who supports everything she does?
Carole did say she hadn’t seen her in quite a while so it was nice to reconnect.
Carole & Heather were the original BFFs until The Bethanny returned. Heather and Bethanny clashed instantly and Carole let her BFF Heather fight alone and subsequently jumped on Team B. Heather exits.
Tonight was not a good look for Luann; she seemed like she was jealous of Ramona. Luann’s comments about Ramona’s house were beyond mean. I have to admit that I was expecting Ramona’s renovation to be spectacular, but it seemed like the “Before” shots looked better than the “After” shots in most cases. I do, however, understand why she wanted to renovate. Everyone needs a change from time to time. What matters is that Ramona likes and is satisfied with her own renovation.
I am proud of Ramona’s skincare line! She definitely is “aging backwards!” I wonder why Bethenny didn’t attend the party…
Bethenny’s renovation is nice. I love the exposed piping, the closet space, and the entry directly into the apartment from the elevator! Why is Carole disappointed that Bethenny did not invite her to see her newly renovated apartment? I thought their friendship was over for good! Maybe Carole cares more than she has led us to believe.
I was surprised to see Heather tonight. I forgot that she and Carole were friends. I was also shocked to hear that Tinsley went to Columbia! I like Tinsley, and I hated that Carole brought up Tinsely’s history of domestic violence in order to explain why Tinsley reacted the way that she did on the boat. Carole used to be one of my favorites on the show until this season. She is so judgemental. I was sad to hear that she quit the show, but now I say, “Good riddance!”
I found Carole’s abusive relationship commment to come out of no where like a Ramona comment. But then it also felt like I was missing twenty minutes of the conversation before she said that. I was upset and then I thought you know I would say that to a friend as well if a friend is having a pattern in their thinking that maybe they should examine or they will keep ending in the same place.
Also I have no clue how TT drunks types. This shit is hard.
Hahaha! Well they all looked thinner and sleeker, and with detoxed skin! (But def TMI!) I do agree with Lu that Ramona’s house appreared almost the same, except that now it sort of seems like a giant refrigerator in an industrial park. (My comments make Lu’s gentle by comparison). And everything does look ordered on line and – sorry – sterile. Beth’s apartment looks a little that way too. I love minimal and clean, but you have to introduce some accent, oomph and personality somewhere. Also – some beauty and warmth. Mix it up! Just imo. Romana looks fabulous and I am officially jealous. I predict she will sell a ton of skin care and her line will be a big hit! It may be Ramona’s “Skinny Girl”. Sonja piggybacking on Ramona’s launch party was hysterical and naughty, and Ramona was gracious and tolerant about it. Again, Sonja’s shoes are cute and she looked great with her hair up. I still don’t get the John-Dorinda relationship. I guess she likes her custom dresses and being “the queen”, as she says. And John comes across as such a nice person— down to earth, generous and affectionate. Go figure! Only on NYC kids, only in New York, as Cindy Adams would say. OMG! Andy is doing diaper jokes.
Ramona tried a skin care line before and it never took off. Also, she is always showing herself having various procedures done so I’m not sure I believe that she looks so great due to some new skin care.
Agree completely. She had her face “sandblasted” last year, just before their group trip to Mexico. I cracked up when Sonja said her face looked like a pepperoni pizza!
Exactly! She said she STARTED a skin care line because everyone told her she looked so good. It makes no sense. Why would someone buy her products that she got involved with AFTER she had been noted for pretty skin.
And yes, she has treatments and good skin care products that she has been using for years, long before she started making a line.
It’s like the Ladies of London lady who has fabulous, super thick, long hair and Andy asked “How do you not have a deal with a hair care line yet?” That could happen, but it would not be a great statement for the product since this lady was known for fabulous hair before any sponsor came knocking.
Ramona’s story would make sense if
1) She has been using product XYZ for years and attributes her beautiful skin to the product. Then XYZ hires her to be the spokesmodel.
or
2) She had been using her own concoction of mixing A, B, and C on her skin for years, and just got a deal to manufacture her secret recipe.
Otherwise, the spokesmodel should be someone who had ugly skin, used the product, and voila! had a transformation. You could have before and after pictures.
Ramona’s skincare is fake!!!! Does not exist!! She is horrible!!!
There’s no such skincare line?
Yes. Articles about it in the Spring had a link to a website Ramona Ageless which is now defunct.
Ramona’s an asshole!
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Omg! If true, that puts a serious dent in my powers of prognostication!
Obviously, you didn’t attend Hogwart’s 😉
I did 🧙♀️! -:) but failed crystal ball class! 🔮
I believe I am not the first one to mention this but notice she did not do the product with her close friend, Manhattan Dermatologist Dr. Sharon Guiese. We saw Ramona go to her the first year of the show and many years after. Makes you wonder if Ramona had to pitch it to several doctors before she could get one to work with her.
Also what happened to TruRenewal? Wasn’t that also a Ramona skin care line a few years back?
Yes there was.
SL much.
I can’t stand her!
Dr. Guiese is the one who suggested Ramona for RHONY. I’ve always loved Bethanney’s comment (re Kelly) “did she go to Columbia the University or Columbia the country?” I can’t help it-she IS funny.
Check out Bethenny’s twitter regarding the “skincare line” that supposedly doesn’t exist! Very interesting.
Why is Beth even piping in about it?
Andy made a comment that all the women came after Bethenny at the reunion. Maybe she is getting even.
Gotcha! Just seems like she always has to jump in even when it doesn’t concern her.
They all do that. They just like to attack Bethenny for it.
Because she’s NOT supportive of other women, especially the other women on the show. I can’t believe I’m typing this, but Ramona is right. Bethenny’s head would explode if there was another woman on that show who is 1/2 as successful as she it. Didn’t she say to Ramona – call me when you’re successful. Who does that?
I thought that line was hysterical!
I liked the episode and was happy it wasn’t the last one of the season. NY is my favorite. I fast forward through some Atlanta (Kandi & Cynthia usually) and BH, but I watch every moment of NY. I didn’t love the TMI but I laughed. I don’t get how Tinsley keeps going there. Of any trip to take, why? And yes, Carole analogizing to abuse was cray cray.
I also have no idea what world Carole lives in that after she coldly rebuffed B on the trip, she thinks B is going to call her up to see her apartment. They seem at cross purposes throughout. And Adam. Ugh. Anyone else find him almost impossible to listen to? Plus he seems to not be the brightest bulb in the tanning bed and very immature sounding. Like Ashton Kutcher but way less hot. Lots of guys that age don’t sound like they’re in high school. Which really makes me wonder how the hell Carole was with a guy who sounds more like her son for chrissakes. Not based on age, based on him. Creepy.
B’s apartment is huge for NY and modern like she likes. Not my fave. Ramona’s kitchen is nice and the house is lovely but yes, very sterile. Lu has better style but she sure wanted to come for Ramona on her choices! It was a funny part of the show though.
Meanwhile, the red scarf guy. That sounded way shady that B was asking him to meet after she clearly wanted to tell Carole he’s a loser while they were in Colombia. Way shady.
Sonja is hilarious and brings it. But I want to know what happened to the dog she supposedly gave away to someone in Maine and then went and got ANOTHER dog after she supposedly was trying to simplify life because she’s too fucking lazy to clean up after herself or her dogs without interns? I’m very worried she put that other dog down and got another. I’d really have a hate-on for Sonja if she did that if the other dog wasn’t dying etc. very disturbing.
Dorinda is delusional thinking Lu owes her an apology. Wow. She’s in such denial over her drinking problem. Can’t wait til next week!
Maybe Beth wanted to talk to red scarf guy about why he was sharing her emails with Carol. I’d sure want to know WTH that was all about.
Sonja gave away 2-3 pets but kept one dog, and that’s the one that you saw. It’s the same one from several episodes or even 1-2 seasons ago, where she commented that she used some kind of vegetable dye on its fur to give it that hideous color.
Oh, I agree it is surprising Tinsley went to Columbia but I don’t find it that unbelievable. First, she may be a legacy and wealthy people often have entree that others do not. Second, she’s like Einstein compared to Bensimon. Kelly must’ve gone to a correspondence class they gave over the course of a week. Or she went to Cartagena Colombia and misspelled it on her diploma, if in fact she has one. My kids had a better vocabulary in 5th grade than Kelly- satchels of gold! Bethenny called that out and she was correct.
I don’t find it hard to believe at all after hearing some Latino “dreamers” going to college here in California. These were the spokespeople chosen to speak on the issue on a radio show. One was at UCLA and one at USC and they were inarticulate to the point of sounding like high school drop-outs.
The sentences were fragments. There were a lot of “you know what I mean?…..it’s like, um….” etc. They could have anticipated the questions and had organized their thoughts into prepared logical paragraphs.
Since they are probably bilingual, I just hope they communicate better in Spanish. Even so, there is no way their SAT scores were high enough to compete with native Californians. I’m sure they were let in on the basis of diversity.
So between wealthy legacy admissions, and low-scoring diverse admissions, you can’t assume people who went to prestigious colleges are smart.
Most of the large survey courses students take their first year or two are taught by grad students anyway, not by professors.
Doing well in school is about memorization. I know people who are smart who can’t handle the pressure of a test and others who are dumb as everyone’s Colombia diarrhea who get into good schools. Being able to practically use what you learned measures intelligence, but schools don’t work that way.
^^ this ^^ You are on point with your comment. My one son was great at mat, could solve mathematical questions beyond his age yet never could pass the memorization of the times table in 6th grade. My other sons on 1st try passed memorization table, yet struggled with advanced math.
This is how I learned about what you said from one of their HS teachers.
Lu being all peanut butter and jelly over Ramoma’s Hamptons redo was hysterical. Love Ramona and Bethennys places and I am sure that by now both places have more warmth since several months have passed. I liked Ramoma’s place before, but I think that since she had caught Mario and his side piece there, she probably figured that a redo would cast out the evil demons.
Carole…lose the driving gloves in every scene…it looks ridiculous.
I would rather wear Sonjas shoes and slather myself in Ramona’s skincare products than buy a ticket to Lu’s Drag Review.
If I must, I would wear a diaper by Sonja. Purple with leopard spots.
I’d wear those! But don’t go giving her any ideas – it will take decades for her to actually produce them and I’ll be dead by then!
I understand they now do surgery for the large veins in your hands. It’s one sign of old age that is difficult to disguise. I think that’s why Carole covers her hands with gloves or those shirts that have a thumb hole and cover the rest of the top of the hands. My little kg. students used to ask me what those big blue things were. Oh, well, at least I’m not afraid to grow old.
That is very observant, peachteachr! I never thought of that, but now that I do, Carole is always covering her hands! Now I know why.
I never noticed the gloves before Adam. Maybe she did not like her hands looking all Grandma Wrinkles while giving Adam’s factory fresh fun stick a twist.
Best laughs of the day.
I thought maybe she had a medical condition where she has cold hands. My daughter has fibromyalgia and Raynaud’s disease and her hands are often icy. She’ll wear gloves sometimes, or have sleeves that she can pull down over her hands. Another thing is that Carole always seems to just pick at her food, and eats very little, and very thin people sometimes have circulatory problems which result in cold hands and feet.
Dorinda brought the show to a new level of low IMO
Sonja gave away HER dog and kept her daughters dog in preparation to move to a apartment
Lou is digging in on Ramona because two clicks have formed and Ramona did not have any loyalty to ANY of the OG;s she has worked with for years IMO
Not a very interesting episode I am geared up for the reunion tho
On the dog, she was down to just her daughter’s dog after supposedly giving the other one to a Maine family but the new one she introduced I’m pretty sure a couple weeks ago. That’s what concerns me
This was a twilight zone epi. I’m still not sure wtf I just watched 3 times. My luv nugget crawled in bed and pretended to sleep after second rewatch asked “why are these super rich highly educated women talking about poop sooooo much mommy?”
I’ve got nothing…how the fuck does bowel issues take an episode and a 1/2 on whose shitting whose not? I am country tomboy to the bone but I’ve never shit the bed and left it for domestics to clean not left a streak of shit and tossed towels onto porch. I think what I just watched and what my brain is figuring out is I must be on drugs. But I’m seriously not.
The viper in these women is terrifying. I’m not sure about other posters but I’m pretty sure in my life a micro of the shit that goes down between these females I would go total no contact on.
When a 9 yr old boy looks at me and says ok change the channel the poop discussion is making me queasy I know the show jumped the shark. I’ve only been backgrounding for a bit. I’ve discovered Succession and Sharper Things and The Affairs back so I’m sad I won’t have snark left on The Real Housewives much longer. I so hung on for the snark and lived to see how these women live in a way I cannot imagine and it’s devolved to a shit show and I’m gonna need to mourn….
Gina, well said, I agree. Sad your 9 year old had to hear all that yet showed how wise he is. Doesn’t help him think well of women.
I love Succession as well, and can’t wait till it returns. Fabulous musical score too! The Affair was gut wrenching last week! Sharp Objects is a very gruesome slow burn.
My favorite part of the episode was Heather saying that sometimes a self-absorbed person doesn’t realize she’s self-absorbed. It was as though she was describing herself. It’ll be interesting to see if anyone at the reunion asks about Ramona’s skincare line.
That was clearly a rehearsed scene between Carole and Heather. So transparent.
Agree completely!!!!
yes, ramona did have tru-renewal a few yrs back! probably never launched like this new line. what happened to her wine? i must say lu came off as quite jelly over ramonas house. mayb she shld have kept her mouth shut as we now know shes screwed her own kids out of their inheritance and no longer has a nyc home. although ramona is not a favorite, i have to admit she did a great job raising her daughter, she’s self made, and rose above a terrible, horrible public divorce. more than one can say about lu, and she looks terrific!!! sonja just gross w/the diapers! glad carole will not be returning!
If I must, I would wear a diaper by Sonja. Purple with leopard spots.
At least she wears the diaper, unlike the OC crowd who just go around peeing on things willy nilly.
Bwahahaha. Thanks for the morning LOL moment, mary.
Why not have a bladder surgery?
I wonder this too, or a pessary, a pad, kegals? I get it, a woman’s anatomy/physiology doesn’t hold up great over time, neither does a male’s for that matter…but I can’t imagine just ignoring the problem, I’d be so embarrassed walking around leaving stains or having a wet bottom!
And then admit it to THE NATION!
That’s what vaginal rejuvenation is for. These women like to brag about having a tight cooter after surgery, but I think most of them do it to stop spraying when they laugh.
TT’s recap then the comments I’m not watching. Ramona ripped s light fixture off Od Doreen’s wall, Kuanbe leaves her bodies business all over her room for someone else to clean up and they speak horribly about each, I might be done with this group.
My sons went to a college prep HA all graduated colleges and mostly dated air heads, Tinsley types. These air heads took and did well in most classroom work. Being a air head has little to do with the ability to do clad work, at least well enough to get by.
Carole is legitimately well educated and took her studies seriously. Carole has dated men mostly in the same age group, she never really dated anyone her age that had been made public. Her. business.
Son gave me a Fire Stick and Alexa , which I’ve now decided to keep. I ask her to change the channel when a housewife show is disgusting, easy. I will never like or see Luanne in the same way.
When I need a pick me up I ask her to turn the tv off and blast Leonard Cohen Hallelujah. Happy place.
Oops Kaunbe = Luanne
So many oops, did not proof read
apologies.
I was so disgusted with Luann tonight. When Ramona brought up the subject of the mess Luann left for the maid to clean up, Luann just kind of shrugged her shoulders and made an “oh, well” expression. That really made her look like an entitled bitch, and that the maid was some inferior being who was just there to clean up after Luann’s disgusting behavior.
Despite that, I agreed with Luann about Ramona’s renovations, although I wish she hadn’t made her comments on air – Ramona is bound to hear about it soon. The whole place was like Superman’s headquarters in the Ice Caverns – too white, unwelcoming, sterile, colorless and completely missing all those things that make a house into a home. I was craving a touch of red, purple, anything! I liked Ramona’s old kitchen much better than the new – even though it was dated, at least it had some character. The new kitchen looked unfinished, I just didn’t get it, but if Ramona’s happy, that’s what counts. I thought it looked like a house that had been decorated very plainly on purpose, in order to be prepared for sale – no color scheme, very few decorations. I bet that’s her next step.
I thought John looked awful – he was sweaty and disheveled looking. He and Dorinda don’t go together – he doesn’t seem to be her type, although he appears to be good to her. I always get the feeling she’s not 100% into him – as though she always holds back a bit.
Sonja looked wonderful – young and glowing. Whoever her plastic surgeon is, he or she did a great job. I always enjoy seeing her – she’s always the same old Sonja – what we see is what we get.
I liked it when Carole told Adam she didn’t drink “coffee” any longer, but had switched to tea. He was looking for a plain old booty call and she didn’t appear to engage with him at all. Of course, you never know what goes on after the cameras are gone. I’m going to miss seeing her on the show, and would much rather see stupid, screwed-up, empty-headed Tinsley leave. She’s a huge nothing in terms of personality and seems to be tagging along on the coat-tails of everyone else’s drama.
Sometimes, I see a side of Bethenny which gives me a glimmer of hope that there’s a caring person inside that brittle, dagger-sharp mask she wears, but then she turns around and acts like a know-it-all, hate-filled, narcissistic bitch again. Whatever, she would be a very high-maintenance friend, and almost impossible to please.
This episode was a little more entertaining than some of the recent ones – should be a good reunion.
Ramona drives me crazy but I think she looks good. I hardly think her skin care line is why. She’s had lots of work and we’ve seen her getting face peels multiple times. Those are treatments that certainly add to a youthful glow. Not some moisturizer. It’s like all the rumors I’ve read about Bethany over the years having an eating disorder. Supposedly she doesn’t drink her own products. Just places them in every scene. I think they all look great. But let’s be real, they are no stranger to the plastic surgeon and dermatologist. And there’s no shame in that. I’d do it if I had that much money and had an HD camera in my face. But don’t try to sell me Oil of Olay in a new bottle.
I don’t watch RHONY often, so forgive me if my questions are common knowledge to y’all.
What does John do for a living? How did Dorinda meet him? Are any of these ladies friends in real life? How were they picked for the show? Was there a casting call?
Thank you.
john owns a dry cleaning buisness
John’s company, Madame Paulette, is a highly respected dry cleaner in NYC where people take their designer RTW like Chanel jackets and Hermes scarves. Some people even ship to them. So not your “ordinary” dry cleaner. I imagine it is a very lucrative business for John.
Thank you.
Granted I was only listening with half a ear, but did Dorinda say she’d been with John for the same length of time she’d been married to Richard? I was shocked and had assumed her marriage was much longer.
You heard right. She and Richard weren’t married long. Richard is not the father of her daughter.
The scene with Adam and Carole was so forced, no chemistry between them at all. For all of Carole’s snootiness, he can barely form a sentence. She was with him because he passes no judgement on her lazy lifestyle.
I like Bethenny and Sonja together as friends, fun. Carole and Bethenny were polar opposites.
I think it was a two=way street with Carole and Adam. He stroked her ego and she provided him with multiple opportunities for his business, publicity etc.
Ramona’s home looked like it wasn’t totally completed yet. LuAnn made sure every flaw was pointed out. Lu is broke. Think Ramona is going to sell. Don’t blame her after Mario and girlfriend made a little love nest there.
Lu needs to apologize to Dorinda too. Yes, Dorinda was over the top, but Lu was trying to shame her on camera in her haughty way. You don’t do that to a close friend who has been there for you night and day for years. Then Lu turns around and says it’s because she wanted to help Dorinda with her drinking problem. BS. Lu changed the narrative after her talk with Bethenny. IMO Dorinda was so mad because she knew Lu wasn’t sober. Dorinda has been loyal to the point of being called the village idiot by charming Bethenny.
No one is going to rent Sonja’s apartment even if the price is $29,999/month. It sits next door to a parking garage and construction in the back. It’s also very dated. She should just sell it.
So is anyone planning a trip to Cartenega? This untraveled bitch still has no intentions. Seeing Lu’s dirty feet was a clear sign. Hope they cleaned all their clothes before bringing into their homes – bedbugs.
It’s funny they took this trip and then 2-3 different groups of my friends took trips there as well (not because of the housewives lol)
They all said it was gorgeous and amazing. My best friend’s family is from Colombia and I know she went to Cartagena many years ago, but a ton of people I know have gone recently. Only complaint I’ve heard is that it’s exceptionally HOT. lol
I beg to differ regarding Lu having to apologize, I watched the scene several times and all Luann said (as a close friend would) is, “Now it turns..” noting the fact that Dorinda is that drunk who goes from smiles to snarls without provocation. And look what happened? Lu was both correct, and the new target because she was simply sitting across from Dorinda. Even if Lu had flat out said, you are drunk (or as Bethanny said to her previously, “You are A drunk”) Dorinda’s response was insanely over the top, like a cruel child.
This. 100%
@MaybeLike:
Now it turns…“As a close friend would” say. WTF?
A close friend would never say that ON CAMERA for the world to hear is my point. Lu should of protected Dorinda if she thought it was going south, not point it out. Dorinda wasn’t even getting rowdy at the time. She was trying to easedrop on Carole/Bethenny.
Lu intentionally provoked Dorinda in order to deflect her mess of a life. Yes, Dorinda was over the top nasty and also has real problems, but a true friend doesn’t exploit them on camera; why Dorinda erupted. Lu knew exactly how Dorinda would react by saying that. Now Lu can act as the victim and fans flock to talk about how bad Dorinda is and Lu’s mess is now on the back burner. The deflection worked. I see you LuAnn, and it ain’t pretty. Class my ass.
Also, I’d like to know what happened at that Book End bar where Dorinda said she almost got arrested defending Lu? Another reason why Lu conviently skipped the reunion IMO.
I agree with you regarding Lu owing Dorinda an apology too.
1. Just because Lu is in rehab and supposedly sober, she has no right to police anybody else’s drinking.
2. Lu should know by now, the worst thing you can say to a mean drunk is that they have had too much to drink or need to slow down. If Lu wants to address Dorinda’s problem, speak to her the next morning when she is sober.
I believe Dorinda is a really mean drunk and has a drinking problem.
Also, Lu has always had a raspy voice, but her voice seemed especially raspy at Ramona’s party when trying on Sonja’s shoes. I wonder if she had gone back to drinking again this part of the season. I can tell when my friends have knocked back a few drinks by the sound of their voice the next day.
Agree. Dorinda may have been so mad because she knew Lu was drinking again and kept it secret. So when Lu shamed her on camera it was too hypercritical for Dorinda to take and she went nuclear. Not right, of course, but I see where Dorinda is coming from.
Yes Dorinda has a drinking problem but no good will come of it pointing it out on camera. Lu got the reaction she intended. She’s no friend IMO.
I think being next to a parking garage is considered a great asset in NYC.
Bethany promotes a new product every year, but never shows for anything for the other women. I’m over her. Support your cast or leave the show. You use Bravo as a billboard. but the minute someone else does, you trash them. Just leave already!
I don’t think that’s true at all. She’s been present at Ramona’s things, Sonja’s things, their charity events, etc over the years and when she couldn’t make Luann’s blood drive because she was doing relief work in pr, she gave a hefty donation of cash cards.
I wouldn’t call $1000 hefty coming from her. She skipped 2 events just in this episode! She also didn’t attend her “good friend” Carol’s marathon. Go back and rewatch ththe last few seasons. She skips as many events as she can. She thinks she’s above these women, talks down to them, and makes fun of their businesses. She claims shshe skipped Ramons because it is a fake skincare line and spends years making fun of sonja and her businesses, but tonight talks her up when she peddling old target goods. I’ll say it again, time for her to go
Pfft!
Maybe I’m wrong but it was a fairly sizable stack of cards the assistant handed over, for all of those to only equal 1k total they’d have to be like 25-50 bucks apiece. That’s very odd considering In PR she distributed cards for hundreds of dollars each, like $600 plus. It’s not like her to be cheap with donations.
I will say, I cringed when it was red cross because they have a NOTORIOUS overhead and very little of the money donated actually goes to relief. My local area was obliterated by hurricane sandy and they did jack shit for us. So many other groups did so much more and the red cross did nada, so they are not an organization held in high esteem by many around these parts in ny. I don’t know if that informed her choice to give less, or if she did give less, but she’s been exceptionally generous with her money and her charity.
I just see her differently. I remember her taking tons of time to help sonja and invite her to participate in her marketing and business meetings while she was launching her fashion line and then sonja turned on her. She owes Ramona zero, she has been a filthy wretch to her season after season, Ramona is fake as they come and socially dysfunctional, she’s a horiffic friend. Sonja isn’t malicious, just unstable and somewhat crazy. Usually harmless until she goes off the rails a bit. I don’t blame her for her issues with them, but at her core she is a caring person. You don’t trudge around in the mud, muck, and complete darkness in disaster ravaged places trying to look after people you don’t even know and then spend countless hours fundraising and organizing on their behalf at home, donating shit tons of your own money, because you’re a horrible person. She is a troubled soul, she has her demons, but she empathetic and good in my eyes. I don’t know many celebs who put their money and time where their mouth is quite like she has with this organization.
I love your comments Shae.
Well that’s super sweet of you. Thanks , Terri 😉
So instead of an episode of talking shit about eachother, they shit themselves? Somehow I don’t think that swimsuit was ‘gently used’.
Gently pooed perhaps?
Ramona is just a horrible person. While I don’t agree in poor manners, even toward shitty people like Ramona (Luann trashing her house), she can hardly accept better when she treats people as she does.
I do think she is in shape and has a youthful complexion, but her crazy eyes and horrible affect when she speaks are extremely unattractive. I can’t even stand to listen to her.
hardly *expect
Bethenny brags that she never gets diarrhea and earlier wished she would. Sounds like someone who is habitually constipated which explains a lot about her personality, her viciousness, her pained ass face.
100% agree with TT. I sat down to eat my sushi lunch and watch RHNY and had fast-forward through the entire beginning. Also, Sonya with her disgusting stuff. Lost my appetite. Thought to myself. Huh. I think this show has jumped the shark, maybe, because once it get to this kind of talk… I’m out! RHNY seems like they’re all just jockeying for position and they’re all hyper aware of it and something about is just… off. Like it’s lost its sparkle. Carole seems like a completely clueless person. What she said to Tinsley you don’t say to your supposed BFF and you don’t say it on camera. It’s a horrible accusation on every level. Tinsley was annoying on the boat but maybe she’s just calm in a crisis! Bethenny’s apartment was amazing. I thought Ramona’s Hamptons house was cute. I disliked B so much last few seasons but this season she’s growing on me. I find I respect her honesty. Carole wants to make it all about boundaries. I don’t trust someone who badmouths a former friend THAT much, that is vindictive betrayal. Boundaries are important but if you were a doormat that’s not B’s fault. I never saw B not respect boundaries. She’s blunt, self-absorbed, and too honest but I don’t see her pushing people into situations. I see Carole being a wimp but that’s different. I don’t like how she’s trying to act like a victim. It’s whiny. Seems like she thought she was manipulating something and failed. If you are so obsessed with your “voice” than do your own thing, be happy, and stop talking about B. Don’t keep talking about how you are finding your voice — that’s not finding your voice. The Cosmo article is BS and Cosmo is a joke. She should sit down and write something real. Writers do it every day. I don’t know what happened between them. I’d love to know. Carole totally threw B under the bus and it backfired. Otoh, what is about Bethenny that people turn on her and hate her!!??? This show somehow got boring? Which is surprising but there it is.
So, I caved and watched the ep. I like Ramona’s house, its very light and airy and is perfect as a summer house. If she owns that big old house to only use it a few months out of the year when the sun’s shining then it definitely works. In the winter though, a completely monocromatic house when its pissing it down outside and you’ve started a cold, would not be for me.
I haven’t finished watching or reading yet, but wtf is up with Carole comparing Tinsley not being a drama queen about the boat ride to her being in abusive relationships?! Cunty move Carole.
It’s interesting to see Bethenney and Luann getting along so well this season after all the screeching of previous seasons. They’re warmer towards each other and they work well together. I first noticed it in Colombia when they were sitting on the couch waiting for others to join them. Maybe it’s just a softening of time or maybe it’s all that they’ve been through. Or maybe it’s that everyone else is going off the rails.
I was surprised at how happy I was to see John tonight. Never thought I would say that! I don’t know how much he plays into Dorinda’s vices, but she used to be calmer when he was around. He used to remove her from parties before she went completely over the edge. Too bad he’s not around more now.
Was Luann drunk at Ramona’s ageless party? Her speech was affected and she kept rubbing Dorinda’s cheek.. She seemed “off” to me.
She may have been. When they showed the previews for her performance next week she was definitely slurring her words.
I thought so. She slurred a couple of her sentences.
Don’t care for Ramona’s house. It’s so cold, i can’t imagine being a guest there. I would be afraid to touch or sit on anything. Doesn’t look like a vacation home to me.
Won’t miss Carole. Glad I don’t have see Adam anymore. I don’t like him after the Delta debacle.
As for all the “talk”, I have Crohns and don’t talk that much about my bodily functions. Geeze.
At least we don’t have to hear any more about Carole and her running the marathon like she was the only one. How long is she going to try to rest on those laurels?
Carole had to talk about SOMETHING after all her Hillary predictions fell through. I think Carole and Beth are both hurting and hurt morphs into anger. Perhaps “everyone” knows this, but I was surprised Sonja went to FIT. As for the skincare line, it must take a while to develop. After all the lab stuff to develop, then the lab testing (NOT ON ANIMALS), the testing on human subjects, market research, advertising and marketing, distribution… Somewhere in there, comes the ad agency designing the logo, writing up the collaterals, and about THEN, I come in and prepare the files for paper printing, web graphics, labels or printing on containers, which must be a TINY amount compared to everything else. Then … I catch a glimpse of the invoice for the relatively MINUTE part that I played and almost fall off my chair. Unless the line was developed and funded by another entity that just decided to have her be “the face” — but not the crazy eyes — of the brand, it cannot be true.
Lots of dermatologists have heir own skincare lines. A company makes them and you add your own branding to it. My dr has his own line and vitamins.
So the products exists and the only thing to be done is add the branding (name, logo, graphics, etc.)? Does that mean that some other dermatologist across the country — or town — might have the same product but with different branding?
I love learning so much random stuff here.
Lu is WRONG. Ramona (RaMavenA) may not have a Chia Pet but she does have pots of phalaenopsis orchids in the living room, white roses in the kitchen, and white Transvaal daises (gerbera) in the guest bedroom. All that white … like she is trying to purify the place to get rid of Mario’s “sex germs.”
I think the kitchen was better before — just replace the dated, but UNCOOL, backsplashes and ditch those barstools. I do like the doggie poo and pee camouflage rugs. Perfect for Ramona’s dogs and wine tossing tantrums.
Poopie talk is worse on second watching and Carole’s psyche analysis of Tinsley is stupid and bullshit and condescending and mean.