The first three minutes of this show were cut off for some reason. I’m actually grateful for that because it is less time that I have to look at Dorinda’s fashion and hair choices for this episode. I am dying to know if Isaac pretended to like it or not.
After multiple scenes of Drunk Dorinda spewing hatred at Lu, Dorinda swears she doesn’t have a drinking problem she was just in holiday mode. What about every other episode of the season, Dorinda? Were you on holiday when you went to a business dinner with Bethenny? Were you on holiday at the Berkshires? Were you on holiday at every party we saw you at? Dorinda says that she really hadn’t had that much to drink and wasn’t drunk, yet she can’t remember what happened the night before.
Then the bitch comes hard for Luann saying she had not business commenting on her drinking given her situation. Actually, Luann was the best choice to mention you were turning a corner and getting mean. She’s your good friend. She has the same problem with alcohol that you do! This isn’t shocking news to you, Bethenny said the same thing about your behavior in Miami. How are you not profoundly ashamed of the clips you just watched?
Then they literally do a shotski.
Isaac Mizrahi says that not the first season return on Bravo of Project Runway, but the second season he will be back for All Stars.
They are literally smelling clothes to determine the stains. This is ridiculous. Issac at least has the sense to refuse the game and say how horrible the game was.
On the after show, Dorinda talks her decision to have less John on the show. Issac asks if you can just decide not to show your boyfriend on the show and she says yes, he is not under contract. But apparently you are not allowed to do that if you are Kenya Moore. Then they just fire you.
Dorinda says she doesn’t think anything about when the other housewives talk about her drinking problems. She says Bethenny and Luann both drink. She says they just like to point the finger. The entire show was about her drinking and she doesn’t see a problem.
Mizrahi with his flip flops and painted toe nails. Oy.
A la’ TRav
LOL.
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He had a reality show WAY back in the day. How he became a famous designer, I will never know. He has horrible taste and the few things that he does well are call backs to the early 60s, which have been done before.
My new glasses are his frames. Where is a blushing emoji when you need it? I love them! Some of my favorite frames ever!
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Hope you didn’t pay much.
He had an amazing documentary I adored called, “Unzipped” from the 90’s. It was about a collection he did in the 90’s and was directed by his then boyfriend. All the real supermodels of the day were in it – Cindy, Kate, Naomi, Linda etc and it really showed the process a designer goes through when designing a collection. Really interesting and fun.
Hope you didn’t pay much.
I remember that show…well sorta. What I remember is Naomi Campbell wanted to ware her naval ring for a shoot or fashion show and he told her no.I don’t know if I remember it because he said no or that he no to such a beautiful woman.
And I’m going to admit it, I bought a few things when he had a collection at Target and I loved them.
I think he was one of the first designers to have a Target collection, and it sold out, as they all do. I’m a big Isaac fan, but I understand that aesthetics are personal and not every designer is for every person. One of the things I love about Isaac is that although he does couture, he also does things like Target and QVC, so that any woman can afford it.
What I do wonder is why he, like some other designers, wear basically uniforms. Isaac’s designs are so colorful and graphic, yet he wears only his nerhru jacket and slippers. Sort of like Calvin Klein whom I recall wearing the same suit all the time (I’m sure he he had more than one.)
It’s exactly that, a uniform – like Steve Jobs turtleneck and jeans, Michael Kors on Project Runway, or the story of Einstein having a closet full of the exact same outfits, – so they don’t have to spend mental energy on what to wear.
Thank you Holly! Sometimes I think that I am the only one who remembers that show. But he was already a successful designer at that point. Cool show, shot in his “white box” studio.
I happen to love Isaac’s clothing and wish he had stayed with Target.
I agree. Not only do I love his clothes but I love his personality.
At one point she said she wanted to shut down rumors she has a drinking problem. They are not rumors Dorinda.
I know a person with the same “switch” Dorinda has, ok one minute then off to Slurinda land. Also, she said she had one drink when Lu confronted her, I saw her with a margarita, white wine and rose. She can’t keep track.
Issac said “No” for Carole’s white dinner outfit and the green see through clown one – lol
I hated both as well.
Carol’s black bathing suit looked Stassi’s white “Steve Jobs” one.
hahahaha I almost forgot about Kyle drunkingly mentioning her turtleneck in the hot tub! Pure gold.
I think TT was correct about her being intoxicated at breakfast, she seemed to be slurring then! I used to love Dorinda, like a lot but now I’m over it until she gets help.
Even sober Dorinda is starting to sound like drunk Dorinda, her switch seems to be permanently on now.
I throught the same. Still drunk. I think it didn’t hit her till she got to the island what she had done.
Yes, I did feel a little sorry for her simply because it’s recorded but this isn’t her first or second, or on and on…incident.
Believe me when I tell you I understand “holiday mode.” I was cracking up at the OC ladies in Mexico. I may or may not have committed drunken party fouls numerous times in Mexico but that’s not my life, that’s a holiday and that atmosphere is fun for an adult get away, then a return to “norma”l life and responsibilities. Dorinda really seemed to be heavily drinking all season, it’s effected her friendships, there’s a problem.
I’m not even watching the show, because Tamara’s recaps are better. But I was a big fan of Dorinda’s and now I am worried that she’s not as good as I thought.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. Sorry to say but when you are constantly shown slurring your words then you have a problem.
She’s what we call in AA a , “high bottom drunk”. She is insulated by her wealth, hasn’t lost a job, received a DUI or lost friends/family members…yet. She hasn’t hit rock bottom. I see these women come into AA a lot more lately.They can and do get sober. Although Ironically it’s harder for them than someone who’s lost everything so they’re desperate and therefore willing to listen to and take any suggestions.
The level of denial with a “high bottom” is generally very, very high. They go in and out of AA until they get that DUI, loose their money, friends or hit rock bottom through horrendous & heart breaking depressions.
Whenever I watch Dorinda I think of these signs they used to post in Rehabs in the 1980’s, “Denial isn’t a river in Egypt”.
How insightful. Thank you!
Oh, Dorinda was definitely schwasted at breakfast.
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt, sweetheart.
Um. Yeah, got it sweetie.
Most of the RHONY have had a drinking problem at one time or another. Why is Dorinda being singled out now? Because she won’t admit she has a drinking problem?
Name one other Housewife ACROSS ANY FRANCHISE that has consistently and continuously gotten to the point where she blacks out, slurs beyond recognition, has makeup smeared all over her face, and worst of all will attack people ruthlessly.
Dorinda got blackout drunk at a dinner and insulted millionaire philanthropists – WHO DOES THAT? She’s gotten blackout drunk at a wedding, at her house, it goes on and on.
Yes, Luann fell into a bush (which is the opposite of “dark drunk”) and then had her incident. I don’t think that’s the standard of comparison as she has been to rehab twice.
Well said
Preach!:)
Spill the story of Slurinda at a wedding at her house, what happened?
i agree with Psylocke completely!
Kim Richards.
I don’t make that comparison lightly either.
Wow.
Andy once did a “Top 10” show. I think another top 10 should be on the worse throwing or smashing glass while drinking
You are 100% right with that comparison. Dorinda is an alcoholic in heavy denial. She is a very angry ugly drunk.
The red lights are blinking.
Ooo yes that’s a good one.
I don’t think even Kim has been intoxicated on camera as many times as Dorinda? That’s really saying something.
Sonja. She was wasted that entire season. Remember. Lu’s eggs a la Francais and Sonja screaming at Bethenny?
Her comment about her relationship with Bethenny was just as confusing. Dorinda has made a lot of crappy comments about Bethenny since filming finalized. Last night, she stated she and Bethenny were fine this season.
I like Dorinda, she makes a good Housewife. Hopefully, she will get a handle on her drinking before she too ends up in the back of a patrol car.
This! If you listen to tv/radio interviews with Dorinda from the beginning of the season, she is gleefully trashing Bethenny at every turn. After the last time she appeared on WWHL
(and realized that she was losing every poll) she started singing a different tune. In the last month I have heard her in three different interviews saying she loves Bethenny and doesn’t get why people think there is a problem between them. It’s such BS. They literally have a confrontation in each episode! She’s clearly worried about her job security if she gets on Bethenny’s bad side.
Exactly! She changed her tune when she saw the viewers were not buying it!
Dorinda’s flip-flopping re Bethenny is another reason to lose respect for Dorinda.
Her drinking is a massive problem. She needs serious help.
Trashing of Bethenny; each season a hwife will trash Bethenny but until Carole no one consistently and continually kept at Bethenny.
They all noticed Bethenny was sincerely hurt by Carole and that surprised them. Bethenny was vulnerable to someone other than her daughter. They felt safe tdlking trash about her.
We are seeing vultures going at Bethenny thinking they are safe and each housewife will only make herself look bad. Could be a little buried resentment at Bethenny’s life and popularity.
I haven’t seen B genuinely hurt like that since Jill (sorry… I cannot ever get that image of Bethenny standing by the car after that meeting with Jill in the apartment, quietly crying.)
But it was ok all those years when Bethenny relentlessly trashed every single housewife? When she mocked them and attacked them? Did Carole do that during her five seasons? No. She’s a major hypocrite. Just a few episodes ago she was telling Carole to back off and stop defending Tinsley when she randomly started attacking her at a nice party. “Let people fight their own arguments Carole” but EVERYTHING is different when the, “B” does it. It’s about time they all stood up and call her on her BS.
I think she played everyone this season. Anybody can see that she’s a very high maintenance person/friend who needs to be in control 24/7. She couldn’t handle when Carole grew up a pair. and had a life of her own and Bethenny was no longer number one. She knew exactly what she looked like to the audience-pitiful, a victim and she milked it. It looked to me like Carole still wanted the relationship but no longer strictly on Bethenny’s terms. I don’t think that works in Bethenny’s world. That woman needs to be in control of everything.
Yes, Carole has called our and made fun of all of her castmates. Either in her commentary or to Beth. She is a terribly snide and judgemental woman. Has always been. Personally I thought that is the reason why those two teamed up together. She and Beth have always stood in judgement of others. I had to gag when I heard Ramona standing up for Carole on WWHL.
It amazes me how Bethenny fans can’t stop sucking on her tit for just one second to realize all of the horrible behavior towards other people that B has done. I totally agree with your comment.
Where in the hell did she dig up that outfit?
When I had a problem I knew I had a problem. The first time my ex brought it up I jumped at the chance to go to rehab-all my insurance would pay for is 2 weeks but if you follow up with meetings etc. it does work. But then again I was ready-Dorinda is NOT ready. Yet. I really hopes she addresses it and soon. There’s no shame in that game. I feel sorry for her.
I agree 100% with u and been in the same spot. Dorinda isn’t ready yet.
Ah! another person in recovery! Hi! I’ve read your comments and always though it sounds so beautiful where you live. Now I know we’re member of the same tribe.
I hope you’re doing well. Good for you that you were so honest with yourself and avoided a lot more pain. Unfortunately, in my experience the majority of people need to suffer quite a bit before finally screaming, “uncle”. Approximately 5% of of the people in AA make it although they like to puff up the numbers a bit. This is a tough disease.
Been there myself. Once I gave it up my out bursts and resentment stopped. Kudos to you both for getting better. It ain’t easy. Life looks a whole lot better for me now
Dorinda comes off as a sloppy mean drunk in denial. Hard enough watching people you know go through this in person, but this shit show is depressing and just not fun. I have a feeling this is just the beginning with Dorinda’s journey to self-awareness and not a ride I plan on taking next year. I would rather watch maggots eat a piece of rotten meat. Anyone with a functioning brain can see she has an issue and will fight it and everyone to the very end. Having a family member with the same issue and also in denial I find myself 15 years in the future and nothing has changed accept the denial is worse and the nastiness is stronger. No thanks. Just get this woman some help or get her off tv. This is beyond a train wreck and moving into the territory of the exploitation of a sick human being for ratings. At some point one must get tired of waking up and having to apologize to everyone you know but not knowing why. If I wanted to be taken on the substance abuse train I would tune into Intervention.
Your comment made me think of that Stones song, Take a bite of the big Apple, don’t mind the maggots.
Never heard this quote until I just read your comment.
Having lived in NYC for almost 10 years, I happily left that maggot-infested town.
This quote couldn’t be truer.
YES, there are good people there, BUT they are few and far between.
People will eat you alive for a few bucks, they’ll even kill you.
Lots of evil people lurking around every corner with a smile on their face.
Brutal, but totally honest.
It is nothing short of infuriating to watch her spout her BS and then have Andy go along with it, meaning she only does this on a “holiday”. Was the Halloween party a “holiday”? As TT stated earlier, was the dinner in PR a “holiday”? She is total denial and everyone around her, including that a-hole Carole, fed the denial in saying they “understand” that Luann is the last person who should have schooled her. I agree with TT and had Luann said that to me, I would have done a gut-check on the spot. But I revere my friendships and would never betray and demean my friends. That SLURinda used one of the most vulnerable times in Luann’s life against her, in my book, we would be dunzo sweetheart. Nuclear options are just that. Use them and you’ve killed the relationship, forever.
What good would it have done for Andy to basically hold an intervention on a 20 minute show? When she is around alcohol?
I find it funny though that he picked a bartender tonight that might actually know about overservice and how to tell, etc. LOL. (I’m assuming they don’t have an actual behind the scenes Liquor Control trained bartender.
Remember when Ramona was the one with the drinking problem? As in, “she has a Pinot Grigio I V drip”. And still, she was never this bad.
Dorinda is “digging on the fame” of being a HW. It happens to them all, eventually, for awhile, then they back off, or get over it. I believe she uses that Luke guy of Caroline Stanburry’s to do her overdone hair/make up, orange tan and wardrobe. Someone earlier mentioned Liberace-spot on and not becoming! Just because your gay does not make you an appropriate stylist. Caroline’s hair and make up was scary at times also.
The drinking? What choice does she have? She could back that shit up- and do like Sonja, or she has to fully admit she’s an alcoholic. Slurring, the mood swings, all the tell tale signs. She is scared. Really scared. She knows the truth. Otherwise, she would at least offer to dry out, just to show she doesn’t have a problem. How do you like the fame now Dorinda?
Thanks for the recap. I was wondering if everyone was seeing what I was seeing. Dorinda says her solution is to not drink on camera? Whatever her problem, she cannot handle her alcohol. I was starting to wonder if the alcohol has affected her blood sugar levels. High blood sugar can make you “turn”or go straight to slurring from one drink. Or maybe she is medicating as well. No matter how she gets there, the end result is troubling to watch as a viewer. This will not end well.
So does “not drinking on camera” mean she slips into the bathroom (away from cameras) to take some shots, then still films drunk? Drink several pops an hour before filming starts?
I can’t wait for the reunion – it will be epic!
Is carol the only one Dorinda hasn’t gone after ? She even started in on John in a restaurant . She does seem to be getting nasty when “sober” now . Friends family, tv the epidemic I’m seeing is alcohol. I’m going to flip my shit with these commercials for drugs. I believe alcohol needs to be addressed. No shame. I hate long toenails, on anybody ! Yuck . Was eating ice cream and had to toss cause couldn’t get image out of mind (think it came out my nose some)
She’s completely in denial. Look at the way Isaac and Andy looked at her. Trying to keep their mouths shut at her BS. She was nasty and defensive. And to equate her drinking with anyone else’s is ludicrous. TT said it very well- rebutting every nasty point she made. She’s drunk all the time. Again, remember B talking about how wasted she and John were in the Hamptons like a season ago? And her being drunk still at the Bronx Italian restaurant that she was still drinking CLIP! Lu is the perfect person who was looking out for her. And B? Seriously? The workaholic who oversees 97 businesses? I can’t remember her ever being drunk even. Tipsy but not slurring incoherently and nasty to everyone and drunk in the morning still. People drink on vacation but who drinks like that? She is a great housewife and great on the show. But she I guess has to really hit rock bottom. And I’m betting John likes her to not be sober so she won’t evaluate why she’s with him. I don’t blame Lu for not speaking to her since March.
Bethenny said on one episode a while back that she’s never been drunk.
She seemed pretty drunk when they went to Tequila.
I’m feeling sorry for her daughter, she’s said you’re not my daughter a couple of times while black out drunk. Immediate family usually gets the brunt of this anger. Dorinda, get some help because this isn’t a good problem to have.
I’ve loved Dorinda since her first time on the show, but (unless Production is seriously editing each episode) there’s not getting away from the fact that she’s turning into an unpleasant drunk. She’ll keep denying it until the truth slaps her in the face, then she won’t be able to avoid the fact she needs help. I’m convinced she’s still grieving for Richard. It’s pretty obvious they were crazy about each other and she loved the life they had together, especially living in England with him. When he died, she lost everything she treasured. I’ve never heard details of how he died, but it seems as though it was unexpected. Dating John keeps her occupied and gives her an escort when she wants one, but he’s so unlike Richard, and I think that’s a conscious decision on her part. I truly believe that if she chose someone like her late husband, she’d feel disloyal, but John is no threat to Richard’s memory. Her unhappiness with her current life is no secret – she has said that this isn’t what she wanted. Maybe, if she does end up getting treatment, she’ll have therapy to help her get over her grief. It’s very much like PTSD and I wish her all the luck in the world. This Dorinda that we’re seeing now isn’t the real Dorinda – you can see that when she finally broke down over how heartbroken she was that she had made Luann sad. I want to see the old Dorinda again – she was a crack-up and a fantastic hostess.
I thought she said he died of Liver failure. I’m not sure what the cause of the liver failure was but he went quickly
A lot of women have lost their husbands tragically and unexpectedly and been left to raise even young children on their own – without behaving abusively toward others. But of course, most widowed single mothers do not have the increduble burden of millions of dollars, mansions in the country, designer clothes, celebrity friends and apartments in NYC. That does make it so much harder.
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I kind of feel like for Dorinda, she held off some of her grief because her daughter was still at home. Now that she’s home alone, she’s alone with her thoughts.
With Carole – and I say this with compassion – I think the Adam thing (and maybe other things) has stirred up a resurgence of grief over Anthony. Maybe stirred up by the break up, or maybe he’s the first guy she has let herself be close to more than a friends with benefits.
However, that doesn’t give them licence for the viciousness we’ve witnessed this season. I might feel compassion about their feelings, but I don’t approve of their behavior and the pain they are causing others.
I want an EnglishRose corner. Once a week, a story and tea, because I love your posts. Nudges Tamara.
Unfortunately Dorinda reminds me of my grandmother…awesome person most of the time. Taught me how to sew, cook. …so many things.
BUT when she drank….which was too often …she went Dorinda crazy mean or way too lovey. Creepy either way. Sadly…my mother later in life drank to excess too but there was no Jekyll and Hyde with her. In grandma’s era… not really any help. But once I had kids mom got her shit together…. Don’t think I’ve ever been more thankful and proud……
Just really saying Dorinda is off the chain and I’ve had enough of her out bursts.
BTDT….go away.
Andy disappointed me. Perfect Poll Question: Does Dorinda Have a Drinking Problem? … it would’ve been 100%
Here’s a super odd theory but if your alcohol intake is ever up for discussion past 22ish, there’s an issue.
Dorinda was hilarious and big hearted for a bit but the drunk Dorinda negates all prev. seasons. She went from sassy take no shit widow to someone that seriously needs my closed caption for her scenes. Given my cc just always types out inchoherent rambling.
It’s her not me. Be drunk girl be you be free kids grown and husband kicked the bucket do you in all it’s glory just don’t be a cunt with judgy ass eyes no bueno.
God love Dorindas delusional self admitting drunk ass. At most her goofy ass is in a slightly foggy world and not the cunty whispers of a drunk screaming :I’m better than you: at the top of her lungs whilst fumbling for her god damn pall mall lights.
Disclaimer: I only guessed pallmall or possibly Capri cuz my chain smoking from Long Island Gramma always smoked that shit while stirring dinner and calling out how to be a desirable woman in the 90’s.
Live and let live but don’t go shaking your slurring ass finger in your team members face just cuz you ain’t been caught yet.
Love it…
Huh?
First of all…it’s been everybody BUT Dorinda that has been a complete asshole at her Berkshire home.
Second…drinking too much and being a complete cunt to people.. .isn’t that your modus operandi here? Project much?
Sorry, but I have had enough of your ‘over the top’ bashing of this woman.
I just started watching RHONY. I didn’t watch it before because Bathenny irrates me. But is there one “star” on each Housewives that sorta anchors each show and has more power than the rest of the cast? Like LVP has more power than anyone else on Beverly Hills IMO. Or maybe NeNe?
Personally I just think Dorinda is depressed. I think she’s in a midlife crisis of sorts and not entirely happy with John. This unhappiness makes her pine away more for deceased husband. I think she drinks to numb those feelings and then she gets mean. I also wonder if she’s on any prescriptions that make the alcohol worse. Certainly cutting out the drinks would help but I still think she’s got other issues she hasn’t addressed. Not every person who chooses to get drunk is a true alcoholic. I’m not saying she is or isn’t one. But looking back at all that footage, I’d be mortified. Again, I think she’s just unhappy in general.
She might genuinely drink solely in social situations, I only see her on RHONY and don’t follow her life outside the show, so I wouldn’t know. However, when she does drink (whether she’s dependent on alcohol or not) her speech becomes slurred, she becomes irritable and she lashes out at any perceived slight. She was at a table with seasoned philanthropists and started a drunken argument with a man over him getting kids into higher education – who does that? Whether she sees herself as an angry drunk or simply a victim of circumstance, her temper and alcohol don’t mix and that’s a problem.
She was arrogant and it looked like she felt she had to show (to these millionaire philanthropists) how much she and Dr. Medley knew about Haiti and how alpha she is because she was married to Dr Medley. And it seems, by virtue of her remarks, the reason she is so angry all the time, is that she now longer has the “ranking” she had when she was married to Dr Medley, and because she is not now married to someone “on his level”. Seemingly why she does not marry John and hence all her “you’re no longer a countess” remarks to Lu. I can think of a lot of people who truly deserve sympathy, and imo, Dorinda is not one of them. She needs to get over herself, her second husband died quite a while ago. At least her daughter’s father is still alive, and that is more than most widow’s have got for their children.
I get your points but to me it’s not about how much money they had, it’s about respect. You can be piss poor and work in the field and do a lot of good. The fact that he’s a millionaire means he probably has access to a lot more resources but it has ziltch to do with how he should have been treated. He was talking about a situation he’d worked in for many years and she tried to discredit all the work and investment he’d put into those kids because of news stories she’d read about crime and violence increases due to the destruction left behind after 2010 diaster. At least he is trying to change the cycle instead of drunkenly lecturing people about how the island’s a lost cause. Really glad she’s not got any sort of real sway when it comes to how relief and aid is dished out if that’s her attitude or no one would get anything lol.
Thats how I seen it anyhow. ?♂️
Totally agree with you.
You are so right!! My husband died 2 years ago and I’m not a raging bitch because of it!! I am lucky that he was not the father of my 3 children, we had divorced and he’s a wonderful father. I don’t have the “status” I used to have either, but I’m not pissed about it. If I want something I’ll make it happen!! Bethanney put it very succinctly-“You’re a drunk.”
You go, Girl!!!!! You have my sympathy and also my respect. Your kids must be awesome.
I have to say they each annoy me in some way….but I wish no one was leaving! I’ve reallly been enjoying this season
She is s horrible drunk!! Please replace her !!!
Those eyebrows, Dear God am I that out of whatever fashion is? Then when she semi threatened that she could quit drinking on the show? I couldn’t tell if it was directed at Andy or the viewers? She sureseemed to think her drunken antics are what makes the show a hit?
Well, that is our fault as viewers. Every celebrity on WWHL on Dorinda’s first season raved about how much they love drunk Dorinda.
It’s not funny anymore.
Guilty as charged. It’s painful now.
Slurinda coming out once in a while was entertaining. Now that that’s her only persona, it’s sad and pathetic. It’s like Erika Jayne. When it’s a novelty it’s entertaining, but once these people buy into their own hype and make this shit a habit, the fans get bored and angry. #ontothenextone
It seems Dorinda downplays her drinking as she may think it makes herself look better. She could be doing herself some real damage by not addressing her behavior and her health. All this drinking with these women, especially as there age, is problematic. One drink is the equivalent of two for older adults as we are not able to metabolize alcohol the same as when we are younger. She also may be having some health issues due to her drinking. She could benefit from getting her Liver enzymes checked and full panel. I hope she considers individual therapy to address her issues and to possibly consider lifestyle changes.
That smeared Lupstick!!! I would be totally humiliated.
Should read: Dorinda Medley Wants You To BELIEVE She Doesn’t Have A Drinking Problem. I’m not convinced
Dorinda is NOT “making it nice”! Her outbursts are cringe-worthy and her slurs are even hard for “English SDH closed captions” to translate. 🙂