Look. We all knew if it came down to Carole or Bethenny It would be Bethenny. If it is ANYONE versus. Bethenny, it will be Bethenny, so Carole should have watched herself when she decided to fuck her over for Tiinsley.
As a social climber, Carole should have know better.
No one cares you are leaving Carole, NO ONE,
#TeamBethenny
Yikes!! She’s PISSED!! Wonder what really happened? I mean like behind closed doors??
Just what Bethenny said is what happened. Carole got mad at Bethenny for her comments about Adam and she turned on Bethenny and the sad part is Adam is with a young woman closer to his age. That’s why Carole changed her hair her clothes and those tired feathers in her ears. Carole couldn’t have thought that would last forever. One thing about how she’s thrashed Bethenny is Bethenny was honest and she wasn’t. I love Bethenny don’t come for her or NeNe unless you want ur housewife life to end. Bye Carole bye. Deuces
I think your wrong. I don’t think she gives a shit about Adam and she’s not dressing to impress him or be younger. People evolve all the time and change up their clothing. Sorry tamratattles but I do give a shit carol is gone and so do a lot of others. I doubt she got fired also. Bethany always lies. I don’t believe a word she says at all. She will say anything to get a dog in. Bethany is toxic and has been into it with EVERYONE. She will have a NEW VICTIM next season. Wait for it
Whoa, dang I’ve never heard of Bethenny being a liar. Can’t recall one lie.
Same here.
I don’t think Bethenny lies in the same way that say, Vicki, lies. She just changes things in her favor. I don’t think her childhood was as horrible as she says, but she twists it. When she and Jason were on that boat and claimed to be lost at sea – maybe they had a little issue but they were hardly lost at sea. It’s Kenya kind of lies. I do believe that Bethenny sent Carole a whole litany of texts and after several of them Carole said, Wow that’s a lot. Bethenny applied the only to the last text she sent, not to the fact that she was blowing up Carole’s phone until Carole responded. Bethenny said she took Carole to the Galapos Islands. Ok, but she begged Carole to go when someone backed out at the last minute and Carole paid her own way except for the air fare.
Oh please Carole so loved Adam and he dumped her and then she went after the Red Scarf guy which was just pathetic to watch that woman’s face is stretched so far across your face she looks like a cartoon character
True!
I agree with you. Bethenny is just like the way she describes her mother. She’s evil!!! If it’s not all about her she wants nothing to do with you. I’m so proud of Carrol for the way she handled herself and for the way she handled Bethenny this season. Bravo to Carrol and she will definitely be missed. I think she carries herself in such a classy way. Bethenny met her match when it came to Carole. She couldn’t handle her the way she handled Sonja last season. No one asked her if Carole was fired or not. She’s evil and everyone she comes in contact with she falls out with them. Look at her marriage for an example. She loves to cry wolf. I’m over her being on the show and so are the other ladies. She needs her walking papers asap!!
“I think she carries herself in such a classy way.” I just shot Coors Light out of my nose onto my fancy new laptop.
I totally agree. When Carole first met Adam, Carole adopted this whole grunge look so she would fit in with him. After she unceremoniously pushed him out of her apartment, she has had second thoughts. She wants to blame Bethenny’s call to Adam for the breakup and also feels like she has to defend Adam and his “art”. Now she discovers he has a new and younger girlfriend, she is trying to dress younger and still wants to blame Bethenny for the split. Problem with Carole is she was never going to have Adam forever, and that she picked the absolutely wrong stylist to dress her. She is looking like someone’s crazy aunt in those get ups. I will not miss her.
When someone asked Carole were she got her style and she said, from Lee Radziwell, and then had to explain who her mother in law was, I think Lee died if she’s still alive, or rolled over if she’s dead.
Lee Radziwell is alive , elderly and living in France, it was widely reported when Carole joined the show her former mother in law was horrified. Lee thinks reality tv is disdainful and did not like the family name associated with it. This is something the lovely Carole has in common with Thomas Ravenel lol
Touche’.
That’s some cold ass shit, right there. Nah nah na na na.
Agreed! See ya Carole, Or not.
But don’t they decide who leaves AFTER the reunion?
yes, but the reunion was already filmed; before carol came out and said she was no
coming back.
not coming back. sorry it is late.
Exactly. Yes they do. That’s why Bethany isn’t nothing but a liar and trying to get in one final dig
I’m no usually after the reunion is FILMED
They have always waited until the reunion is AIRED and they can gather audience reactions to the cast at that time. It’s usually several weeks after the reunion airs before Bravo actually comes out and tells us what’s going on. This is the period where all the rumors start. Bethenny is right in saying that we do have some say in who stays and who goes. Also, Bethenny is NOT the only one to have ever quit RHNY, Heather Thomas also quit.
THANK YOU! ?
No Heather says she quit. She claims it ws because of her business but they’re allowed to have their story to make it look good.
Actually, the Heather situation was very complicated. Her business partner on her clothing line felt the show was damaging to the brand and legally blocked Heather from promoting it on the show. Personally, I think he was an idiot for that, but whatever. Heather’s storyline was all about her business. She had no love interest or children. So her partner basically took away her storyline Bravo had no interest in her anymore. So technically, she did not leave by choice but due to an unfortunate set of circumstances.
Heather has a son named Jax who has health issues and hearing loss and a daughter, the sons hearing loss and health issues were part of the story line, repeatedly
Uhhhh, Heather is married with kids. Theyve been on the show…MANY MANY TIMES.
Shows how forgettable she was. All I remember is her girdle line.
Heather was married and had a son with medical issues; one of her main storylines. Plus, if she was fired, why would she make an appearance on every season since her departure. Im still team Bethenny but I’m calling bullshit on her being the only rhony housewife that left.
C’mon, there have been a lot of “fired” HW that appear again. (Technically, they are never fired, their contracts aren’t renewed!) Heather was not dependent on this show for income, she’s a business woman, so there probably weren’t hard feelings about not being renewed.
If showing up after leaving the show is proof you aren’t fired – then Jill was never fired either! (and we all know it was not Jill’s choice to not be a housewife…)
She is married and has a little boy.
Totally agree and yes #TeamBethany. She can be tough but I like her a lot. Carole was good until she wasn’t. I don’t think Bethany has any control over who goes or stays but B gets the ratings.
I agree ^^ ^. If Carole had not publically blamed Bethenny I doubt Bethenny would had outed Carole.
Pretty sure Kristen and Heather released statements saying they were choosing not to return to focus more on their businesses and family. No one contradicted. I’m too lazy to look it up to see for sure.
Bravo always lets the ladies put their own reasons out for leaving. They let them bow out as gracefully (well some of them have been graceful) as they’d like and tend not to make conflicting statements.
It’s actually one of the few classy things Andy ans Bravo do.
No, Heather quit before the season had actually finished airing and Kristen quit because of her husband’s name being on that prostitution web site that got outed a few years ago.
You’re right. Bethany lies and has to get in one last dog in carol!!
You are the only one saying Bethenny lies.
No she’s not.
Beth lies about almost everything. She contradicts herself so much you need a score card to keep track.
I care…NOT, I actually don’t care one way or another. Honestly she really didn’t bring anything to the show, until this season. And that was a sh^t show.
Team B!! We obviously don’t know the real story BUT it looks like Carole f ed Bethenny over – as a friend!! See ya and ur nasty hair cut!!
It seems that Carole Ann DiFalco overestimated the clout of “Princess Radziwill” with the suits. Imo, she was a stone cold c*unty mean girl to Bethenny. She excluded Bethenny and made constant nasty remarks about her behind her back, gaslighting Bethenny, and then blaming her for being upset about it. Bethenny really let Carole in so she was devastated by Carole’s complete disinterest. Good for Bethenny posting this. #TeamBethenny
100%. If take a shot at the B you better not miss, CAROLE
Ok gizelle ?
Carol Ann is a social climber who didn’t have a need for Bethenny and her money after she met Tinsley and Scott and her ex boy toy Adam got close. Good riddance #TeamBethenny
good bye carol i wanted you gone years ago! you used bethanny and thought you could get more from tinsley! you are americas hoyse guest WHO JUST GOT THE BOOT! you had no story you are a nadty bore! you had turned on sonja in the beginni g of the season then bethanny and it boomerranged back to you BYE BYE!
Ummm, Carole is the society the rest of them are trying to climb too. It doesn’t get much higher than the Kennedy circle.
It doesn’t get much higher than the Kennedy circle? I am not sure that many people are trying to bridge “that society”. They might find themselves out of their depth.
Scottishwitch omg!!
NOW THAT’S HOW YOU THROW SHADE!! You took a swing & you hit THE ENTIRE KENNEDY CLAN with that masterfully crafted reply!! BRAVO!! WELL DONE!!
well said — Team B all the way all the day
B is pissed for sure. I thought she got Carole fired, too. So she wanted to defend herself. I was surprised to see that she did come out and tweet this. She’s shutting that shit down.
Bethany is nothing but a liar. Plenty has left the show on their own accord like Heather. So Bethany is trying to get in one last dig. Not a pretty look.
#HiCarole
I heard you the first 3x but for some reason, you just keep repeating the same thing. Hey Dawn, do you think Bethenny is a liar? Dayum gurl, slow your roll!
Bwah ha ha ha ha
Dawn say it one more time for the people in the back. We get it! Bethanys a liar! Get it!
Bethany is not a liar!
How does Bethenney know what happened to Carole?
Seriously? LOL
Maybe she knows it all?
Which is why her therapy doesn’t work. She knows it all, there’s nothing to learn.
I have the same problem with therapists. And men. And friends.
That’s a shame.
She doesn’t. She is lying. That’s all Bethany does
Crap. No WAY she “knows it all”!
B stands strong
So wait… Carole was saying she left because of Bethenny? I feel I missed something.
Carol is full of it…
Go read Carole’s postings or twitter.
I did, and all I see is her selling stuff on Poshmark.
How could you miss all of that Erica? Carole has been polling people on Twitter about whether they would quit a high paying job if they had to do things that went against their morals and values (not sure what Carole’s morals and values are) and tons of rags have been running stories about how everyone hates Bethenny. Carole has been coming for Bethenny from multiple angles and dragging Ramona and Dorinda and Tinsley into it.
Totally missed it when I posted. What can I say, when working I check my notifications and come here basically, whenever I have a break!
Also, I’ve been avoiding Carole’s tweets. They are either retweets of ass kissers, mean tweets about B, or shit that she has up for sale.
Oh, and isn’t that poll kind of a slam against Bravo and her bosses, like ANDY?
I missed it too Erica. The thought of reading Carole’s posts? Ugh….
Erica, read her Bravo posts, there are three in s row that are lengthy and slams Bethenny .
Made feel sick, for Carole, she was going for Bethenny with determination of a well planned stratigh.
I care.
I care too. I like Carole. I don’t like the way she is acting in this fight but again no one knows the real, behind the scenes story. I will miss her a lot. This whole situation is very sad to me.
Love this! Thank you TT!
I believe every word that Bethenny said.
Carole please just slink away….and I wish we could find out for real her net worth.
Carole did not inherit any real wealth from her husband via her father in law. He was broke.
I think Jackie Kennedy gave her husband 500 K.
I am not being disrespectful im really trying to understand the point of ur comment? Why do we care what Carole’s net worth is? She never flaunt it or mentionned incessantly on the show… How does that change how you/we as viewers see her? She lives a nice lifestyle regardless. Not everything is a competition in regards to bethany, my god…
Agreed. She also was a working woman in television before and during her marriage. She is also a best seller. I think she is doing just financially and she out of all the woman has never flaunted her worth. According to google she has a net worth of 50 million though. That is double Bethanny’s. I mean, if you really want to keep score.
Carole worth 50 million? Doubtful. She’s said in interviews that she still has to work. If she had that much money she wouldn’t need to work.
She has flaunted her family connections…..
Not really. She rarely talks about them. And she is an actual Princess and you certainly never heard about that. (unlike a countess I could talk about) Her husband really was JFK jar’s best friend (unlike a certain deluded person who claims to have partied with him all the time). She had a serious career before this and it’s sad that the freaking housewives of NY will now be her legacy. As for Bethenny….I know people who knew her when and know her now. There’s a reason she’s not a happy person. You can have all the money in the world. It doesn’t make things better, it just makes them easier.
Agree! Jeeze the girl just lost her job- go easy on her people. She lost her husband tragically. Our beloved JFK jr’s cousin. I just read the book calked Jackie, Lee ( her mother in law) and Janet Bouvier. Carole is mentioned in the book, She was in the bedroom where only a select – few special relatives were included – when Jacquline Kennedy took her last breath. She will always be connected to that amazing history and she deserves some respect and trustworthy friends, Bethany betrayed her badly by crossing friendship boundaries and undermining and belittling Carole’s boyfriend. Who Carole never spoke poorly about, If B was so charitable and needed to hire photographers to showcase her charity – pay up. This is a story about two strong Alpha woman but one is aggressive (B) and the other passive aggressive (C). I like them both but these women should not use their strengths to destroy each other when both are dealing with hardships. They both have strong qualities and both are very hurt. It’s over now for good.
I’ve never taken Carol as flaunting her wealth. She has mentioned her travels as a journalist and her Jackie O connection, but NO ONE has flaunted family connections, celebrity connections, etc like Ms. Morgan…she knows Diddy, Right???
As far as being in anyone’s face with money…Bettheny loves to flaunt….her huge apartment with its HUGE closet, her coast adjacent real estate purchase, how wealthy “Skinny Girl” has made her. I find it ironic how she had Sonja in tears at one point, how she belittled Sonja’s business endeavors, but now she’s Sonja’s protector. Bethenny makes the rules, and changes them to fit her motive for the moment. Nike should bring back the “Bo knows” commercials they had years ago and replace Bo with Bethenny cause the bitch knows it ALL!
B is a real b. Carol is in a world the rest will not have access to, no matter their money. I liked Carol & feel she made the best of a bad situation. Red scarf said he was interested in Carol, not The B. B is and was a nasty, entitled b.
Uhm did you miss the episode where red scarf said told B he only came to speed dating to see her? She did not want him and then he settled for Carole
I’m starting to think Tamara Tattles has been invaded by the Russians – the ones t0o stupid to hack into our election system.
I mean, have your opinion about any of the women, but don’t make shit up that was right there on camera. I watch with captions – if I still had the show on DVR, I could screen shot him saying it for goodness sake!
I agree completely. I have always liked them both, Carol is smart and I like her sense of humor. Bethany is entertaining to watch and love her quick comebacks. This season was not good with them fighting constantly. It’s best that Carol leaves. Bethany has treated everyone horribly at one time and they all bow down to her to stay on the show. Carol doesn’t need her or the show.
@ Paris
I’m curious about her money too. I don’t know much about her husband except his relation to the Kennedys but not much more. And I know or think she grew up middle class. She doesn’t flaunt her money at all which makes me even more curious, lol.
I do not know Lee Radziwell or live in Manhattan. Not even $1 of Jackie Onassis’ money will ever come near me. Carole has made the comment that the family fortune has been over-stated. Let it go. She lost this job or walked, no need to do forensic accounting.
She did inherit land because she was telling Andy (at a dinner before she was a HW) that she did, and he said “So, you’re a land baron?” And she replied “Well, I’m actually a princess”. This is from her mouth.
I can see her saying this an laughing. She IS actually a princess and her husband’s family did have a lot. I sure she inherited her husband’s portion of that fortune.
She Jackie O gave Anthony JFKs personal belongings. One was one of his Kennedy rockers which they sold for almost $500k.
Agree her personal net worth is kind of a weird subject. She can afford the apartment in NYC and a house in Beverly Hills. She has money.
….and she can say that she picked up the scarf under her straw hat look from, Lee, her mother in law. Sorry if B can’t stomach that.
All the money is from her ex and she does not have control of it…Carol lives off a parical trust…that’s why she kept her crappy couch and apt…had to use real h $ for that pathitic a called remodel
Her “crappy couch” is a custom piece by DeAngelis and was covered in a famous, very expensive fabric by Scalamandre. It was famously published in design books and came to her as a family heirloom, so of course it was a bit worn. That gave it character.
You are a moron.
EricKu — Thank You Thank Yog, I knew a little bit of the couch’s history and always wanted to know what I did not know.
Happy now, no clue why the damn couch had me in its grip.
BWAHHHAHHAHAHAH! The couch was “a bit worn”???? It was shredded to death by her kit enz. It didn’t have character, it had cat piss was ripped apart.
Oh the infamous couch. If I remember Carole’s quote, “It was designed by…..who made ALL of the furniture in the White House.”
Dude must have been as old as dirt.
Oh FFS. “It had cat piss” my fat ass. From whom? Baby the dog? That one kitten she fostered for a little while that lived in its cage?
Not buying it.
It had some wear on the arms and a split cushion. That’s not “shredded”. So I guess you only keep family heirlooms that are unused or otherwise untouched by human hands?
Her couch must have been beautiful for a long time but Google Carol Radziwill’s ugly couch. You will see a number of photos of the couch with a number of shredded rips and cats and dogs freely lounging on it. It was time to put that couch to rest!
Her refurbished apartment looks lovely but once again you see photos of cats and dogs on the new furniture. Not a couch I would want to sit on!
Her “Kitenz” – hysterically funny! I do not know who designed the couch and I do not care who sat their pseudo royal ass on it. To me it looked like a sinking mess that should have been condemned by the Board of Health. Personally, I do not care for “antiques” with “pedigrees” because to me they are just somebody else’s old furniture and often times have TERRIBLE energy. But – I know people who picked up some “non-pedigreed” furniture in flea markets in Paris – like marble topped “Louis the whoever” designed and curved consoles or beautifully carved chairs of solid wood with carved wooden backs that you can put your own one NEW, SANITARY, and REMOVABLE cushion on — or gorgeous gold carved mirrors with frames of fruit and cherubs – and the furniture is clean and beautiful. Now, that is pretty and without any nastiness factor.
I have taken better looking couches to the curb
Living your replies tonight.
How do you know this?
What is a parical trust and how do you know all about this detail of Carole’s assets?
From a 2016 Vanity Fair article, “In June 1976, Stas Radziwill [Anthony’s father] died of a heart attack, just 62 years of age, during a weekend party in Essex, England. On his death, it was discovered that his estate was essentially bankrupt, with nothing to leave to his children. Five months later, in November of 1976, Hugh D. Auchincloss, [Jackie Onassis and Lee Radziwill’s stepfather] once referred to as “the first gentleman of New York,” died from emphysema, having lost most of his fortune.” and “Although the will [Jackie Onassis’s will] set up $500,000 trust funds for Tina and Anthony, not even a memento was left for her sister.”
Carole did make a lot of money from the sale of her books.
Bethanny is insufferable. Her immense ego and quick wit no longer balance eachother. I believe Carole when she said she wanted to leave ( independant of wether she was asked back or not). What makes RHONY fun are how fun these middle agenor older single ladies are and how they like to party, have good sex and a good time ( Sonya, Ramona, Luann..). No one truly likes Bethany in this cast and she herself has stated tnat numerous time. RHONY will suffer from that in the long run.. i as a viewer definitely has Bethany fatigue. U know it al, we get it, move along, get off our TV you attention craving know it all…
Oh what a breath of fresh air you are! I mean it!
Holy shit……English much?
Bethenny IS the show….deal with it.
This! ^^^^
I for one do NOT watch RHONY for the… sex… wtf are you talking about?
I hated Bethenny during the Luann fall in love with Tom season and now I love Bethenny because she speaks the truth.
Carole became annoying AF.
I do like Tinsley though. She’s a lovable ditz. I never got Carole’s sudden friendship with her, she acted like her personal PR person.
Carole would’ve been better off telling Bethenny how she felt honestly. She played games and failed in her attempts at checkmate. BuhBye
I agree with most of your statements. I just think Bethenny really thinks she is the whole show and really all she brings is selling crap I would never really buy (I wouldn’t want to out myself as a housewives fan lol) and creating conflicts with everyone on the cast. Don’t get me wrong I love the fights and drama, but I think I enjoy NY so much more when they are just partying and trying to get laid. I feel like Atlanta has the fights, good drama, amazing get ups and the best reads, OC can be a wild shit show but fun and endearing at times, Beverly Hills is like the fantasy and glam world, and NY was fashion and wild ladies beyond their prime (in a good way) looking hotter than ever with game and owning the town. Bethenny needs to take a part-time role or just do her side gigs….over it!
I agree with the Bethany points, I find her to hard to watch. She lives in a one sided world to me, and I hate how she treats people.
Shes been hard to watch these last couple vacation episodes in regards to Carole. She just wont let it go, but whenever Carole tries to have a reasonable, adult conversation about it, she acts like a teenager. She cries, she talks over her, she keeps bringing up old issues. If you really move on then you move on. She clearly did not.
I can’t with Beth either. She is charitable and once in a blue moon she does the right thing. She just cannot do enough good to undo all the horrible behavior.
Agree. That was just mean girl and classless.
Bethenny has a scorched earth policy for anyone she thinks crossed her. Her mother, her father, Jason, Jill, Sonja, Fredrik, anyone who doesn’t let her run the world. Time and time again she pulls this stuff with people she supposedly cared for. She pushes people away and then convinces herself they are the guilty party. Watch out for the day when Bryn has her own opinion different from Mommy Dearest.
I really feel for Brynn. Her only options are to exalt her narcissistic mother or go out on her own.
That is just sick!
Too true!!!
Bethenny and Fredrik are friends now.
Carole never went to Bethenny one-on-one, it was always with a audience. Whe Caroke went to Ramonas room and asked her question she never waited to hear the answer. Caroke wanted to talk and influence Ramona to see things her way. Carole was not sincere.
Bethenny listens to others opinions, and II don’t think her daughter should be talked about in here.
Way to young for this crap,
We don’t know if Bethenny and Carole talked one-on-one or not but I doubt it would do much good. If Bethenny is not in control of a conversation she takes control of it by nit picking, badgering, yelling and, if all else fails, crying. It would be exhausting. I think Carole was sincere and I’ve never known Bethenny to listen to any one else’s opinion on anything.
Sonja and Fredrik have both worked things out with Bethenny, and Bernadette has sold the most disgusting, ugly and vicious stories about Bethenny, I wouldn’t have her around me or my kid either.
Agreed. I am going to miss Carole. She speaks calmly and does not shriek or yell or go off on someone in contrast to Bethenny who goes from zero to a million in seconds. It seems that Bethenny must have things, attention on HER timetable or her terms; otherwise, there’s hell to pay. Carole was available to Bethenny on Bethenny’s timetable the last couple of seasons and she was roasted and criticized for being a puppet amongst the other cast members and in the media. She was likewise criticized for not writing. Well, when she trained for her marathon, began writing again and exploring other friendships, she was roasted/criticized again! And in living her life, she was not as available to Bethenny as in years past. It’s okay for Bethenny to have time for her daughter, business and charity interests but not Carole. That’s how I see it.
And Bethenny sees Carole’s other interests and time away from her as full blown rejection–seems so immature to me that she cannot support her “friend”, that this is not an “either or” situation. What if Carole had married, adopted a child or been needed by her parents due to illness? I suspect Bethenny would still see the loss of attention the same way. Carole is not her employee. And despite countless sitdowns and assurances to Bethenny, Bethenny continually claps back to Carole–the person she claims that she loves? That’s toxic. There’s no resolution here. I suspect Carole gets that and bowed out. Maybe it was mutual with Bravo? Who knows? And who really cares–only Bethenny who sees this as a victory. Bethenny may be right here but is she happy to be right? Doubt it.
This!
I think Bethenny just wants everyone to think she’s the only one “big” enough to walk away. Hence her need to y’all everyone Carole was fired
Interesting because I remember Carole yelling and ranting at Aviva an entire season. Just sayin’!
One person vs an entire cast.
Yes, one person for an ENTIRE SEASON!!! And, in my own defense, I stopped watching a few seasons back so I have no idea if she’s yelled at any others. Thanks for your pointless reply!
You’d be mad too if you were accused of not writing your own book. Aviva was grasping at straws to stay on the show.
Yep, didn’t say I wouldn’t be. Was just pointing out the fact that Carole too is a “screamer”.
she probably was…but key term is you said the entire season, I think with Bethenny it’s so much bitching, drama and picking fights across seasons and franchises….
You are right on the money. How others are not seeing this is the mystery to me. In addition, how low to have to comment that you’re once good friend was fired because she herself us so popular. I don’t know how or why this is so, I just know she needs Jesus
Amen.
Bethenny was defending herself and set the record straight.
Bethenny’s tweet about Carole’s firing was because she said her leaving had a lot to do with the fighting last season . She has been giving multiple interviews and said Bethenny was a big reason she left.
I totally agree with you. Who is Bethenny close to? I like Carol and she handled Bethenny like I handle my child staying calm during the arguments you always win..lol Bethenny is always out for Bethenny and cares not for anyone. She may have clout but Carol has class and a title. Makes me think why Jason is so vindictive toward Bethenny. I in no way excuse his behavior but I am sure Bethenny has played some part in his anger toward. Remember how ugly she was to Sonja and LuAnn and now ugly to Carol.So what if Carol was not asked back they all have the ability release their own statement. Just shows you that Bethenny is a vindictive gal. If your so busy selling your brand and BStrong wth would you care what Carol does?
Ihm, Carole was very ugly to B, did you read Carole’s posts on Bravo? Three entire post on horrid Bethenny. Carole knows how to get to Bethenny and she did it. Carole had no desire to make up with or understand Bethenny. It was all about hurting Bethenny and publicly trying to embarrass her. Read those three posts.
Great comment. Carole said in so many words that she didn’t want to be on beck and call anymore for Bethenny. She said Bethenny would get mad if Carole didn’t reply right away to texts. Bethenny has to understand that the world doesn’t revolve around her. Carole is not your mother.
Like I’ve said over and over Bethenny got nasty with Carole two years ago. The HW tried to tell Carole but she didn’t believe it till the episodes aired. Bethenny always has to have someone to argue with. Her telling Fredrik he was a snake oil salesman was beyond the par.
Really……??
Got back and read Carol’s blogs………
Total nutter and vicious bitch!
I had a friend who had similar characteristics as Bethanney. The friendship got very draining and very toxic towards the end. I felt that it was (I’m making up a name) “The Little Debbie Show” and everyone else was her costars. I finally got to a point where I just didn’t want to renew my contract. I do not regret ending the friendship. In fact it felt like a weight was lifted off me and I actually felt so much better.
Bethenny has never had people on her beck and call. At some point she has tried to help Sonya and Luann.
These women were not friends outside of the show and normally they don’t see each each other often off season. I know last year Bethenny took Carole (& Adam) on vacations.
They all have their friends away from the show.
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EX-fucking-ACTLY!
Bethenny doesn’t like anyone who doesn’t bow down to her. Carol finally had enough and let her know it. Bethenny is a miserable person. I mute the T.V everytime she starts talking, and the over the top analogies are ridiculous, old and tired. She thinks to highly of herself. I really wish she would go away. If the attention is not on her she starts acting like a petulant child.
There is no show without Bethenny..so do your self a favor and turn off the TV.
Carol expected Bethenny to bow down to her . She is more important her being Princess without a castle.
Bethenny did in 1 Tweet what Carol couldn’t do All season. Carol tried to take Bethenny down and Could not .
Carol forgot the Fact Bethenny has written several Best Sellers. Carol claims writing as her career.
Bethenny did not act like a child but a truly hurt human I would of been the same,any person with a heart would of been broken.
Yes I agree. I’ve never seen anyone bow down to Bethenny and never saw her acting better than the others.
She is always on time for vacations, on time for dinners, doesn’t care what room she gets on vacations, usually takes gifts for all when appropriate.
I don’t see a better than attitude, she is smarter than the average house wife. Not her fault.
Totally agree, Calipatti. Go back to Carole’s first talking points this season, and you’ll see her begin to dig at Bethenny. At first, I thought it was me. Then it kept going and I realized it was real. Carole didn’t like Bethenny any longer.
Tinsley is her connection to Adam and youth. I would have thought a young guy just starting out would have jumped at the chance to go to Houston and increase his resume. I’m sure his expenses would have been covered by B Strong, but millennials just need their down time and it was a weekend.
Who remembers Carole going for Jules about her anorexia? Or her and Bethenny running out of Jules’ house laughing about the dog poop on the floor? Carole is a mean girl, too. And y’all keep quoting her resume as a reporter as gospel. As Judge Judy says, “It’s called puffing and it’s legal when you are trying to sell something.” Her resume if puffed a bit.
Everyone said it was Jill and at the time, it may have been her. Now, the show is so bad because of B.
That’s some low down dirty shit right there. It’s like a public divorce where the nasty comments come flying. Who cares if she quit or was fired? Hit them when their down B
Thank you Lisaj71 same thing I was thinking ?. It this really necessary, in the name of “I have to clear off my name.” Can’t stand either Bethenny or Carol but Bethenny is insufferable. Bethenny always has to show her superiority.
I’m over Bethenny, have been over Bethenny. I hardly ever watch an entire episode. She is either telling someone how smart or successful she is, or she’s a victim. She spanks others hands so to speak if they interject during a disagreement among the other housewives, but she is ALWAYS interjecting. She can tell you who is right, and who is wrong, and she’s always right and knows it ALL. She can get naked drunk, then flip into the role of the alcoholic police.
And how do you imagine she went from zero to millionaire? By being humble and polite? Those bitches are jealous, that’s why they hate her. Rating personalities – Ramona is much worse, done much worse, and still, B is the hated one?
her dad died and she inherited millions
I call bullshit!
gina no, no, He was s horse trainer and had not worked for some time bc of his cancer..
Ramona doesn’t systemically go after people is the difference.
Hey I like Bethenny in some ways, like her charity work. She has some big personality flaws though and it’s unfortunate she is so miserable.
What Ramona have you been watching ? Ramona is nasty and does go after all her co-stars her divorce knocked her down a peg, give her time she will be back to being vile soon.
I think Bethaney is smart and obviously knows how to keep making a ton of money. That being said….she can also be aggressive, judgmental, selfish and her ego is out of control. And then imply Carol is crazy for her feelings/perspective. Just shut up and sit back and accept your differences and then move on. I think it’s a bitch move to post about Carol getting fired. PERIOD. It better come out later Carol did something horrid to Bethaney…because it’s just an aggressively bitchy to do this. I hate when women are like this to other women just because they don’t get along anymore.
Say what now?! Fact: Carole was just as bitchy to Bethenny, if not more. She absolutely deserved this tweet from Bethenny!
Yep…..go back and read Carol’s blogs and TT’s purple pen about them.
Thunder Cunt.
It is in response to a bunch of nasty shit being said about her and to her (Bethenny) that she was the reason Carole left. I doubt it was out of the blue.
Carol has been talking shit all season and her blogs have just been hateful. CYA bitch!
I really think she planned to leave this season when I read her blogs and listened to her interviews. She came after everyone. Like Carrie!
YES!!! Carole has been trashing Bethenny all season in her blogs and Bethenny did not respond. Then the stupid “goodbye cruel world” post by Carole, trashing Bethenny some more. I am glad Bethenny finally responded.
You forget the past history. I noticed two seasons ago Bethenny talking bad about Carole and said to myself Carole is next on the hit list. Came true, but Bethenny thought Carole would take it lying down and she didn’t. All this tweet proves is Bethenny putting it out there she is not responsible for Carole leaving. Carole took a lot of heat being on Bethenny’s side and then not. People are crazy and have no objectivity or memory.
How many times are you going to say the same thing?
I like your comment but there’s no star to click.
I like a bunch and no star. Last week, it was the WordPress and fake Amazon loop. TT’s webmeister fixed that. Now this… I blame that THOT troll Ashley J. (I hope I don’t go to window licking for that. I think we get a pass for *AJ* ripping only.
There is one ring of truth I find in her comments. I’m sure others get this too but the viewers voice surveys Bravo sends me ask every imaginable question about each character on every show and are we done w then or do they talk too much or not enough, can you believe them, does drama seem too manufactured, blah blah blah. I do believe Carole got hammered this year and that added to her demise whether it was by choice or not.
Ha! I’m glad Bethenny fired back at her. I honestly don’t know how Carol lasted as long as she did. She has nothing going on that is reality TV worthy. She has never done anything that made me want to watch her. Now, thankfully, she can go be boring somewhere else.
Carole lasted that long because she’s friends with Andy C and was a friend of Bethenny’s. Her return year after year baffled me but that’s the only explanation I can come up with!
I actually liked her the first season she appeared.
Her first season was so good along with her witty blogs. Dayum, why did she have to go and change into just another ‘one hit wonder’??☹
Yes remember Carole riding in the open car down Broadway with her musician boyfriend,
That stoke was cool.
Yikes can either of them show one ounce of humility and maturity? Carol was relentless and now that Bethenny won why can’t she just quietly relish in victory rather than throwing in one last blow publicly? Neither of these women clearly have much self worth if this is how they behave. I don’t find it entertaining or charming on either end. I root for no one in this childishness.
If you are completely over Beth…why the fuck are you watching?
CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!
ugh there are other people on the show….
Wow! It’s okay if everyone doesn’t have the same mad love that you have for Bethenny.
Ummm where did I say that?
I won’t miss Carole, she added nothing, but I’m completely over the Bethenny show, she needs a few good meals and a boatload of therapy. Everything is about control with her and when she can’t have it she tantrums like a toddler.
YES!!!!
Fash84 I agree with you!!!
I’m with you guys!
Carol is an arrogant asshole. I watched her twitter and she kept posting shitty stuff about Bethenny and then pulling it down in a few minutes. When I asked her about it after she posted a pic of B and said B was “full of shit” I got blocked lol . Not like I give a shit.
Carol is a user and friend jumper and Bethenny has a heart when she sees someone in pain (like Dorinda)
Its obvious Bethenny thought Carole was her friend and it hurt her to realize Carole didn’t like her at all lol
This!
“Friend jumper” – you nailed it LiveOakShade!
Totally agree!
I don’t blame Bethanny for biting back, Carole has been one spiteful bitch this season.
Yep!
Brin needs a mommy.
Bryn has a mommy that loves her beyond measure!
She has a very loving “Mommy”. And, one that knows how to spell her daughters name correctly. 😉
Wow. I’ve defended Carole all season, but the last couple of eps make that hard.
I think B was right, Carole is all about her clothes and acting two decades younger at the moment. B was also right about Carole not having much going on family or careerwise… thing is, its not very “friendly” to say that about someone you care about. Its especially not “friendly” to make intl comparissions about a friend going thru that, while you’re controlling a charity. (ie: jill zarin/ B cancergate).
But…In the last couple of episodes I can see Carole has completely shut down B and stopped responding to her; she’s also gaslighting her, pretending she didn’t notice she was sad etc.
I think Carole is obsessed with Adam, and saying anything about Adam negatively is the kiss of death for any form of relationship with Carole. Not balanced, mature or nice – but, as mentioned above, she sees Adam as her happiness.
In her ‘goodbye’ bravo online video, she looks sickly sickly thin, has had more face work done, her jaw (the only thing you can see with her oversized sunnies) looks like its held together with wires and botex, and most sadly, she talks about how being on reality tv lets her watch the moment she met Adam – that’s her big take-away..
Oh my god… I’m not sure I want to see that video.
It was heartbreaking on soo many levels. I realised Carole has put all her eggs in the Adam basket, more than anyone realizes, especially Carole. She is going to be very along, looking like a skeleton very soon. So sad (not look shaming), mental health concerned.
Did she also call out Bravo? Because that is now calling out Andy – he’s still the Exec. Producer.
Not in that exit interview; it was taped by bravotv for the website/ youtube channel, I think.
Carole has spent this entire season trying to take B down. B has continued through post-production to stay nice and not go in hard on her. Carole kept digging and kept digging and kept digging. Now B is shooting back, and I dig it.
#TeamBethenny
Ditto….take a seat Carol.
CYA
Totally! Also, how dumb do you have to be to think you can take down B! Never gonna happen. You can maybe stand up for yourself and talk back but you’re not going to take her down. That’s why B has
R e s p e c t. 😛
Carole was brought on the show by her good friend Miss Andy. Carole needed a job and income and the show delivered it. She was snobbish about appearing and spent the first few seasons acting superior & intellectually above “reality tv”. She befriended Bethenny and took advantage of that friendship, and their falling out had a lot to do with political differences. People need to understand that Carole is still a disgruntled Hillary supporter and she resents Bethenny tremendously for being aligned with Dennis in any way. Could that be why Adam didn’t come through for Bethenny? Could that be why Carole distanced herself and seemed sullen & resentful? Carole has been friends with Andy for years, longer than BF has been friends with him. But in a pissing match, Carole lost and Andy sided against her in her either/or situation. Bethenny isn’t gloating, but she’s calling the spade what it is.
Bethenny attended one of Hillary’s $33,000.00 a plate dinners, along with Dennis, Martha Stewart, Sarah Jessica Parker. I do not think it was a divide over politics that caused the rift.
Andy and Carole became friends shortly before she became a RH. The known for years encompasses the years she has been on the show. One thing about Andy he “friends” those who can be of use to him. Carole was not exactly a stepping stone to further Andy’s career.
RH career suicide is making your story line about running a marathon, in just under seven hours, No one cares and to continue to prattle on about others’ lack of support is ridiculous.
The biggest indicator Carole was canned is her claim of “returning to writing for television”. Maybe she can go and compete with the 20 somethings and get another associate producer gig on a news network.
I agree Bethenny is doing what she does best-calling someone out on their nonsense.
Thats some F’d up sh*t. I watch all the housewives and for some reason I just could never tolerate Bethany. I’m a Social Worker so real housewives is my escape from realty…love my trash TV. I don’t like celebrities defending her if she is negative or pretentious because it just validates how not in touch with reality most celebrities are. I don’t get how people are team Bethany when Carol was time after time just trying to take the high road and handle situations or Bethany’s confrontations graciously and amicably. Carol can be a little boring but I liked her on the show because all the other personalities are so drama and hyper…they literally all seem cracked out. In fact, I was proud of Ramona, as nutty as she can be to confront Bethany over the phone this season because she does create conflict constantly. She talks shit behind everyones back but then bitches if they talk about her….ugh. And it’s almost like clock work with her, I’m finishing the season, I haven’t spoken about my custody issues so let me have a meltdown towards the end of filming so the public sees on camera how my custody affects me, it’s kinda predictable….Bethany during the season = I’m still the same loud mouth down to earth person….I give so much to charity because I’m a really good person so forgive all the bullshit behavior you see from me…oh I’m selling something new ….promote promote promote…conflict with someone….custody issues….victim!
Just because one is not screaming, etc. doesn’t mean one has the “high road”. Actually, it is sometimes the gaslighter who is the most soft-spoken.
All season, even on WWHL, when asked for reasons why Carole and her minions have such a dislike for Bethenny, there are murmurings of “she called Adam directly” and the equivalent of “Bethenny knows what she did.” Nothing to warrant such a 180. Bethenny IS high maintenance. I’m sure she’d agree. She has said “I am a lot” before. She owns her shit. if Carole is not in a place mentally to handle it, then OK. Fine. Just say “I’m dealing with some of my own shit right now, and I’m struggling to just do that” – you don’t have to relentlessly “should” on people – you shouldn’t be sad, you shouldn’t cry, you shouldn’t talk to people having a ridiculous fight in front of you (even though I will involve myself in it later on)
Well said!
This. The season started with Bettheny talking crap about Carol behind Carol’s back. Over time as Carol learned what was happening, she pushed back. Sonja was the straw that stirred the sh*t. She relished playing run and tell that to Bettheny. The scene last night where Bettheny is bitching about Carol to all the woman at the table said it all. If positions had been reversed and it was Carol holding court talking behind Bettheny’s back Bettheny would have exploded, said really cutting nasty things, and ripped into Carol.
I appreciate all of Bettheny’s charity work but I also think she gets something from it. She likes being a savior and being in control. In some ways it is easier to be charitable to people you don’t know rather than those you do. Remember how she ripped into Sonya in the past. She completely eviscerated and humiliated her at her office. Now she’s besties.
They all have faults but Bethenny is no saint and if anyone is a gas lighter it is Bethenny. She gets really nasty with people (she reemed Frederick on the show they had together) and then says “sorry, I was really stressed out” or some other excuse, lather, rinse, repeat. She is abusive in her own way.
Agree with beezus 100%!!!!
Ditto – Ageee- it’s a pattern and I pity the people getting dragged into her web. She is funny – has great one-liners but I see right though her secret motives.
I “LIKE” your comment Monica!!! (Can’t click on Like)
I think Carole may have done a little of what took down Jill Zarin. Jill may have been slightly mad at B, but she falsely blew it up for ratings (as she has admitted).
I think Carole was upset initially, but as TT has said, she has Tinsley now. She also knows that she was seen by some (not me!) as a puppet of Bethenny and that she didn’t really bring the story last year. So she tried to up her game.
Not very aware of the past, nor how sympathetic B is going to be to so many – not JUST because of Puerto Rico, but because a lot of people have known people in real life that have gone through an ugly divorce, or had bad parents – and the fact that B has accomplished all this and still shows compassion and charity appeals to people. Dorinda was a nasty piece that deserved to be upset – yet Bethenny managed to be kind to her when she was so low, AND was kind to LuAnn as well!
That’s Bethenny’s MO though. She is always nice to people that are in a bad spot because misery loves company. Plus it also makes her feel superior. She has given some good advise to Dorinda and Lu.
Carole and Jill weren’t in a bad spot and she was nice to them.
I honestly think that Carole went the way Jill did – overly mad and want to create drama for the show.
They both made the mistake that there has to be at least some percentage of authenticity to it, and B brings that in spades as do other successful HWs. She lays all her shit out on the table, rips open her chest. Carole is the opposite. That was fine in past seasons, but then when the relationship that we literally saw develop on the show – the first meeting – goes tits up and she obviously isn’t “fine” with it, she isn’t being authentic or honest to herself or us on how this probably has rocked her world a bit.
I see Carole as getting close to B as one gets close to the popular girl, to bask in her attention. Be her sidekick and be in on all the action. She knew B was the power so better be with her than have her against her. Go along to get ahead and be in the “cool” clique of Andy and B. Who knows if they didn’t cook this up (B and Carole) for whatever reason. I think there’s something not being said about their real relationship but there sure are alot of “hints”.
#byecarol
B’s post is everything!!!
Good for Bethenny, Carole needed to be put in her place after her atrocious behavior towards Bethenny this season.
Buh Bye Carole.
#TeamBethenny
Absolutely team Bethenny
Bethenny lies an stretches the truth!!!!!! Love or hate her but Carole left on her own. I have loved Bethenny since season 1 but after this season, I hate her. Her “truth” is how she feels not facts.
yeah, I agree with you. I really like Andy Cohen too, and I try to be a “fair” personal generally. But I kinda felt like anytime a guest on WWHL took Bethenny’s side he let them give an opinion and if the housewives took Carole’s side or a guest took Carole’s side it seemed like he would cut them off….Maybe I saw it differently.
Bethenny was turned off by Carole’s deep interest in Hillary and the campaign last season. Called C a cat lady. That was the end.
Bethany has always been a neurotic, messed up bitch. Most of that is from her screwed up childhood. Carole is from working class parents. She has an MBA from NYU. She is a Peabody Award winner, a three time Emmy award winner, and even if she had a ghost writer? She is actually smart enough to have written her own best selling book. I always thought she just joined the show for an easy paycheck so she could decompress and glide for a while instead of busting her ass. I am #TeamCarole. I will miss her and I do not look forward to more of Bethany’s gloating and meltdowns just because in the whole history of RHONY it is Bethany alone who ever quit on her own. Best wishes to Carole. I am sure she is going to be just fine.
YES!!! And I actually believe Carole in all of this. I think Bethenny’s tweet is cruel and unnecessary.
i believe carole, too. bethany’s meltdown feels more like she couldn’t get carole to toe the line so she’s throwing a fit. listen…I feel sorry for bethany. she had a shitty childhood full of neglect and abuse. she does need therapy and i hope it’s working for her, but i can’t help but feel that her time on rhony undermines whatever therapy sessions she does attend. bethany has lost it because there’s finally someone smarter than her who can also keep up with her rapid fire argumentative style and that has shocked her. carole has always struck me as almost too laid back. tinsley is an airhead and fun. tinsley is easier to be around than bethany. i get why carole needed the break from bethany, but i also don’t think the friendship with tinsley is anything lasting especially now that carole has been FIRED, FIRED, FIRED! lol pretty sure the whole fired thingy is going to be the party line so i might as well get used to typing that instead of quit. oh, reality teevee…how we love you, but WHY? lol
Who will Tinsley hang out with now on the show? Carole was her closest friend.
I don’t know, but I can’t stand Tinsley this season. Talk about a stalker. She and Carole bonded over their mutual desire to stalk men who don’t want them.
Plus, when she dared to demand Luanne tell her about Luanne’s private life and divorce, I about lost it. That’s none of her damn business.
Hopefully someone her age, unless Tinsley wants to be 54, unmarried, childless, without a career and dating guys 20 years her junior.
54, unmarried, childless, independently wealthy, and dating younger guys sounds pretty damned good to me!
Guess you’re one of those who thinks a woman has to have a husband and children to be “complete”? How sad to have such a narrow worldview.
Me too, Ericzku, but CLEARLY Tinsley wants kids. She cried over her fucking frozen eggs! WEARING A WEDDING DRESS WHEN SHE ISN’T ENGAGED!
It was like that Friends episode, only pathetic instead of funny.
Just about sums me up minus the independently wealthy and younger men part (I prefer women).
I have always been #TeamBethenny for life. Without Bethenny, I wouldn’t watch the show. I laugh at almost everything she says because she has some great one liners.
Carole came for the wrong one, and she got canned. I believe Bethenny 100% on that. Carole is thirsty. She wouldn’t have walked away on her own. On the bright side, she has more time to stalk a 20 something year old now.
Don’t kill me, but I once read Andy’s first book. I believe it was in that book that he said, “There are housewives viewers love to hate and housewives viewers hate to hate.” He went on to say they sack the housewives viewers hate to hate, and he cited Jill Zarin in that group.
Carole is a hate to hate housewife. She’s just annoying. I find it gross that she won’t let Adam move on with someone he can have a future with. She is a stage five clinger. It’s uncomfortable seeing a grown ass woman chase a man in his twenties who is clearly over her. Good riddance, Carole.
He is going to marry someone younger and have kids. She is an old bitter liberal. Elite leftist at that
Adam hasn’t been in his 20’s for a few years. He was 30 when they first hooked up, which is why I never understood the jokes about his age or Luann calling her a pedophile. I’m pretty sure that 30+ is plenty old enough for a grown ass man to decide whether or not he wants to be in a relationship.
Adam was 28 when they met….
I don’t get the Carol is thirsty comments…thirsty for what? She does her own thing and doesn’t strive to be the big shot of the show. That is how she has always been season after season, thats why I think I liked her so much. Bethenny acts like its no competition shes the head bitch and then you have Ramona, Luann and Sonya often battling for title of head bitch. I love that about Dorinda and Carol they didn’t constantly want to take the stage..
Bethenny is everything Carole wishes she was. Self made, has a child, donates to charity and has a career. Carole is white trash that briefly married someone tangently related to a Kennedy and then lost it all. Her storyline is that she ran a marathon ? And then wants a party? Yawn Her outfits show just how immature she is. Silly old cat lady.
I am so confused about all of this. How did being friends with Tinsley fuck Bethenny over? That makes it sound like you HAVE to be Bethenny’s and only Bethenny’s friend (no other friendships allowed) or you can’t be on the show anymore. In other words it makes Bethenny sound like a controlling psycho – and that is just not how I see her.
I am still unsure what their beef was and how it got to the point that Bethenny was involving Adam and Tinsley in it. I haven’t read any of Carole’s blog posts, and I don’t follow either of them on Twitter, so I am still in the dark as to what the conflict is about. I certainly can’t figure out how sides can be taken since they have been equally awful this season.
Then your response makes sense. Go back and read Carol’s blogs (TT posted most) and see if you still feel the same.
I don’t believe this. I think Carole quite. Perhaps she quit because she saw the writing on the wall and knew she wasn’t going to get a pick up letter this year, but I do believe she quit. Bethenny is exhausting and the constant crying and yelling and nit picking when she’s wrong in an argument would make me crazy. I don’t think Carole added a whole lot to the show but I’ve always liked her and lot of people who stay on shows for years don’t actually bring a lot of drama, but are liked. No one is going to go up against Bethenny and win, but I do think this text from Bethenny is out of line and cruel. I also think it’s a lie.
And Carol’s ENDLESS blogs about Bethenny weren’t cruel?? Are you kidding me? All season B took the high road as Carol continued to hit below the belt in real-time. Her blogs NEVER addressed the nasty things Carol was saying about her.
Yes, she was an emotional train-wreck; I am a fan and last night she got on my VERY LAST NERVE. But she wasn’t being intentionally hurtful or dismissive..clingy as all get-out? Sure. Neurotic? Definitely. Carol is just an emotionally stunted old hag.
I’m certainly not saying what Carole did was right either. I thought the discussion was about the text from Bethenny. They were both wrong. The bottom line, I don’t believe Bethenny in this matter.
Yeah, if you aren’t following them on Twitter I think you miss out on how awful Carole has actually been. I stopped reading the blogs, and hers used to be my favorite. But they were so damn nasty, and ALWAYS rehashing about Bethenny. Even if they didn’t really interact that episode and she could have easily talked about something else – it would be about Bethenny.
She would tweet about Bethenny too – and Bethenny pretty much maintained “radio silence” until now. So the “shut your pie hole” people on Twitter, etc. who SHOULD know better are pretty much gaslighting minions.
I liked Carole and up until last year, so did Bethenny. They were two peas in a pod and fun to watch.
I watch these shows to escape and Bethenny is just annoying. I understand why they keep her on the show, but doesn’t she have enough streams of income coming in that she could give up her RHONY check and let Heather or another housewife come back? I’m tired of seeing her cry, spiral out of control, attack and antagonize the other housewives. Bethenny, take care of your daughter, run your empire and fly off to Puerto Rico and help those poor people rebuild! IMHO
Bethany needs an ayahuasca retreat AND the Bravo $ because I don’t see her shape wear, lunch meats, candy bars, coffee, tea anywhere and ditto the jeans. That’s why she’s probably freaking out. She doesn’t appear to see all of the truly wonderful things in her life.
I love how Bethenny was silent the whole time and let Carole keep running her mouth about her every single chance she got. Didn’t Carole listen to Bethenny’s tagline from a couple seasons ago? She came for Bethenny and she missed! Im glad we now have the real story from Bethenny and just like we suspected Carole is full of Fake News!
good bye carol i wanted you gone years ago! you used bethanny and thought you could get more from tinsley! you are americas hoyse guest WHO JUST GOT THE BOOT! you had no story you are a nadty bore! you had turned on sonja in the beginni g of the season then bethanny and it boomerranged back to you BYE BYE!
If true, then it explains Ramona’s reaction on WWHL. She seemed truly upset that Carole wasn’t coming back, but it seemed like she wasn’t saying everything.
I hate when anyone mentions dressing your age because I feel like you should be able to wear pretty much anything at any age.
That said, Carole has been trying wayyyy to hard this season and it reeks of desperation. Beyonce’s outfit? That was so forced I was embarrassed for her.
Her behavior this season wasn’t very nice. When someone is crying and telling you they love you, stop being an asshole.
I think someone is giving her those clothes so she can sell them on Twitter.
As for “dressing your age?” Fuck that. At this point, havent we all done our share of fitting in fashionwise? Wear what you want.
I like Bethenny, but I’m getting tired about how it always has to be about her and her dramatics. I like Carole, but she has seemed pretty annoyed/bored/apathetic to the whole RH concept this season. She was probably not asked back because she doesn’t bring what the RH franchise needs. Both B and C should just move on to their next projects and not look back.
I so agree with you about Bethany’s dramatics. I like her, but it’d be exhausting to be her friend. She has gotten worse every season. I’m really not sure if it’s authentic or she thinks it makes good tv. It’s all about her inserting herself into everything.
Why is everyone of the mindset that they have to be “Team” Bethenny or Carole? They are both heinous and I wish they were both going!
Amen
Agree. Honestly I could care less about either of them. Team Nobody
I won’t miss Carole at all. I liked her the first season or two but she hasn’t had much of a storyline and her only interest this year was the marathon and her breakdown of friendship with Bethany. She didn’t realize how little people would care about the marathon past an initial congratulations.
My best friend was in a horrible marriage and her husband was upset about many things including a job he hated. One night he came home and storm into the kitchen and looked in the freezer and there were no waffles and he went off on her screaming for 10 minutes about how they were out of waffles. Since then my friend and I have used the phrase “it’s not about the waffles” meaning someone is going totally off the rails about something totally inconsequential when there is a much bigger issue going on that they are not facing. That is what’s going on with Carole. She loved playing it so cool about a casual relationship with Adam when she was deeply in love with him and beyond hurt when he put her in the friend zone and is dating other women. She is taking out all this vitriol on Bethenny when she is really just hurt about Adam. I for one will not miss her.
I never thought I would say this but I would like to see Jill back though I doubt that would fly with Bethenny so it’s going to be interesting to see what the Bravo suits are going to do regarding Jill.
One of my favorite YouTube videos, “It’s not about the Nail”!
I believe Carole not being offered a renewal on her contract is less about her fight with Bethenny and more about her lack of storylines. There have been many RH friendships blow-up, few have resulted in someone not being asked to return.
Carol’s previous seasons and storylines:
Season 5 – wrote clever satires on the RH’s
Season 6 – entire story line is her feud with Aviva, #Bookgate
Season 7 – Carole meets Adam and #Pedaphilegate begins (Carole films her best episode ever with Dorinda in London)
Season 8 – Continuation of #Pedaphilegate
Season 9 – A little more of #Pedaphilegate, election, Tinsley and Scott
Carole has added little to the show. She has brings in no family, no relationship, no job, no charity work, and no fun lifestyle. Maybe a little bit here and there but nothing substantial.
Since Carole’s announcement of leaving the show, she has continued to bash Bethenny, blaming her departure on B. Of course, B had to publically respond. Sad to see their friendship end in such a public way, I am certain their cord was completely severed at the reunion. Carole should have let it go after that, really, what was the point of continuing the vitriol? It was over.
Good summary! And yes, those London episodes. I think that was when she was the most honest and real.
I dunno….. why the hell would Carole stay if they are considering bringing back jill zarin?? bethenny plus jill reunited will be a nightmare. I think Carole had a good run but was over it and couldn’t fake it. She and Bethenny seemed intellectually and humorously on the same page but emotionally on different planets. Bethenny needs to absorb some of the lessons of yoga that are not poses. Agreed she needs an ayahuasca purge (as well as colon) but sometimes mother damage is insurmountable. 2 cents.
Team Bethenny.
I never really liked Carole anyway. She knows that she brings nothing to the show on her own so she has to hitch her wagon to someone else to get any screen time. I will slightly agree with what someone said upthread that she can sometimes be a nice counterbalance since she doesn’t scream and act a fool but that’s about it. She’s a boring loser. Condescending, mean (remember how she treated Jules?) and seemingly having a midlife crisis which is why she’s suddenly besties with Tinsley now and dressing 20 years younger.
I’d wager that friendship is dead in the water, never to be revived.
I see a RH tell all in Carole’s future.
Not surprised. Since Carole was friends with Andy pre show and has not attacked Bravo corporate they gave her the courtesy “ I’ve chosen to leave ” lie to let her save face. In reality she was fired. B knows Bravo’s operations to a T by now.
I don’t think B would have outed Carole if she hadn’t been so petty and mean girl subtweeting her since leaving.
Takes two in a friendship, though you can see B’s hurt etched on her, Carole may claim she is hurt in a “ reserved” way but I just see cold and callous from Carole while B clearly mourned the friendships loss.
Yup, I agree with your post. Carole being “cold and callous” is calling it right.
Seems like all season Carole’s interviews have been full of digs toward Bethenny.
I won’t miss Carole. She was a complete snore.
Everytime I hear Carole’s intro line about the Marathon of Life, whatever, I cringe.
Talk about beating a dead horse??? Jesus.
Carole can cut a bitch, but B will lop off your head.
Heh heh, so true!
Carole has zero, no, nada storyline and is as boring as watching pain dry. No energy and no fun summer home to film in, just a fur ball cat litter smelling apt. Bye!
It’s time, as women, that we stop ‘slut shamming other women for being older, single, thin and/or childless. Carol, who is over the age of 50, dated a young guy who found her extremely attractive. New flash, some younger men find women like Carol who have kept their girlish figures to be sexually desirable. Deal with it. She has no children. So that supposedly means she will forever regret this life choice, and be passed around from one relative to another during holidays, shunned and dismissed as ‘that unwanted older, single, childless woman. Or, maybe, just maybe she will take wonderful trips to exotic parts of the world during these otherwise boring, cheer forced family get togethers no one really wants to attend anyways.
Point is, she has the right to pursue whatever choices she makes without we ladies trying to force her into an old, outdated lifestyle (youngish, dating or married to man same age or close to, must have child/children). Because as women we should know better than to try to fit into a one size fits all mentality.
That said, I like that Bethenny finally addressed the Carol issue on social media. Didn’t like her telling Carol how to handle the firing though.
I don’t recall anyone (not here, anyway) shaming Carol for being older, not having kids or dating a younger man.
Keeping her “girlish” figure? Please, she’s a stick. And she says she doesn’t work out. So I don’t think she’s really had to work at that.
No ones shaming her for being in her 50’s – lots of other HWs are in their 50s, too. It’s her that seems to be in denial about her age and trying to be some hipster/cool girl. Especially now that’s she started hanging out with Tinsley.
And with Adam, she was the one who painting this picture to everyone that Adam was so into her and wanted to get married and she was the one who wanted to take things slow and acting like it wasn’t that serious. And now that they’re on the outs her attitudes totally changed and seems to be taking it out on Bethenny.
You obviously haven’t read all the posts. Including the last part of your own, trying to out her for acting 20 years younger than her age. What does that even mean?
Or, the one where her younger boyfriend is now supposedly going to get Carol back by marrying someone younger and having children.
And it’s not about HOW she got thin, because men honestly don’t care why they have those athletic looking figures. It’s sad, when you don’t even realize what your’e doing.
I said DRESSING 20 years younger. Big difference.
And on the rest, I don’t even know what you’re blathering on about. I was saying no one’s shaming Carol for being older or thin. People shame her because she’s delusional and a pretentious bore.
Carole has been called an old hag by posters on this site. I love when people criticize like you have any control getting older.
Tons of Carol shaming on here from her style of dress/ to whom she dates/ to not having children. If you can’t see you should really remove the blinders. Her life choices are just that HERS.
If you truly think “no one’s shaming Carol for being older or thin”, you clearly never read any comments on any TT post about Carole. They are full of derision for every last aspect of Carole’s life and person, including her age, looks, child status and on and on.
Actually her figure is more boyish than girlish. And we think he found her “extremely attractive” because why?? He always looked and acted stoned and unwashed to me. So, pardon me for not getting the Adam-hype.
No one should be shaming her for not having kids…maybe Baby will take care of her in her old age. What she should be shamed for is the farce she tried to sell us concerning Adam, the AWFUL things she has said in her blogs all season long and her DREADFUL fashion choices.
Your idea of boyish can also be seen as a young, trim and sexy figure. She is extremely attractive to Adam because he had an ongoing sexual relationship with her for many years. He met her while hanging around Lu’s daughter, so he obviously had other, younger choices of women he could have sex with. He chose Carol over them. I don’t believe Adam has shown any kind of homosexual tendencies throughout the series, so to think he chose Carol for her boyish figure makes no sense.
I agree completely with your second paragraph. I am NOT a huge Carol fan, just don’t like where a few of the posters here went with the shape shaming or baby shaming comments.
She was too underweight to give blood! That’s not trim..that’s sickly..and sexy? No..just no. HAHAHAHA But whatever. Maybe, just maybe Adam found her success or her reality tv fame extremely attractive but there is absolutely NOTING you can type to make me think he found Steven Tyler more attractive than girls his own age. We’ll just agree to disagree.
It wasn’t Lu’s daughter, it was her niece IIRC. Secondly, he could have chose Carol for her money and connections since he’s an aspiring chef or whatever. They had zero chemistry.
What I find Extremely Laughable I do not believe for 1 second Adam found her attractive other than Her money and what she could do for him.
@Heaven, you made me spit my coffee out about Carole looking like Steven Tyler. Thanks for the chuckle.
I don’t think anyone was shaming her for that. I’m 47, single, childless… Tamara is single with no kids too.
But realistically speaking, if I started dating a 28 year old who eventually wants kids – I’m potentially headed for heartbreak if I get serious about him.
And, by assuming ALL women eventually want kids (more and more women with careers in the U.S. are choosing the opposite, btw) you are suggesting and even stating that heartbreak is the obvious SOLE result.
It isn’t. Women of any age should be able to determine who they date and what age of individual they date without it turning into a saga about that same woman turning into a pathetic, childless existence in their later years. So what if it does? Sometimes that is exactly what they want and the result is happiness beyond what having self-duplicates can bring.
You misunderstand me. In fact, I don’t know if you even read what you are replying to. I don’t assume all women want kids. Quite the contrary. Read carefully, I AM CHILDLESS AND FORTY SEVEN.
Chances of an occupant showing up in my uterus are nil.
BUT, in a developing relationship, the issue of whether or not to have kids is quite often a dealbreaker. I don’t think Carole wants children at this point, but early on when they first started dating, SHE IMPLIED THAT ADAM DOES WANT CHILDREN. Also, ADAM IS DATING OTHER PEOPLE.
All in all – Carole ain’t happy with her situation with Adam.
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Indeed I read all about YOUR situation. I want the best for all women who choose to have or not have children. But honestly my problem with what was said is not about you or your personal choice. I believe we are far enough along in our society’s progression to stop placing an emphasis/stressors on women of a certain age to have children. The old, “Oh, you know she’s dating that young guy now but it’s such a pity the relationship just can’t go anywhere because she’s unable to bear him children,” is so self-defeating for women of all ages.
If they chose to date each other, both fully aware that Carol being of a certain age is not likely to be able to have children without using a surrogate or having to adopt, is not something we should be judgy about. Her business, his business. Leave that argument alone and discuss her lack of writing skill, or whatever you can honestly say about her that demeans her in a fair, non-sexist way. Like I said before (somethingthat you probably didn’t read) it’s sad that you don’t even know you’re falling into the older-woman/younger-man sub-plot where all is doomed because the woman with the old eggs just can’t produce a viable offspring for him.
it is sad that you refuse to acknowledge that the “I want kids, the other person doesn’t” has nothing to do with age.
I mean Lu even talked about that with Jacques… they are still friends (and I really liked them together). She said he wanted kids, and her shop was closed. I know women who want kids, but he didn’t – some figured it out early on and didn’t stay in a relationship for years, but others? It was extremely painful.
Carole is clearly in pain over this but keeps saying she’s “fine”.
Why even continue to waste your keystokes…LOL
We can look at Demi/Ashton/Mila for a clue as to how this would have ended had Carol gotten up the nerve to marry this man/boy.
Really? How about we look at ALL the 75% of all entertainment-based, similar-aged marriages, and where they ended up.
Although it’s true that any relationship outside the five year difference mark doesn’t have the same odds of making it that they otherwise would, lets’s not blame the older-woman, younger-man dynamic.
I will agree with you on that. Look at Maxwell Caulfield and Juliet Mills. Nearly a 20 year age difference.
But clearly not having children wasn’t an issue for him.
There must be an acknowledgement that it might not be the age difference per se, but the desire to have/not to have children.
I see Carole as getting close to B as one gets close to the popular girl, to bask in her attention. Be her sidekick and be in on all the action. She knew B was the power so better be with her than have her against her. Go along to get ahead and be in the “cool” clique of Andy and B. Who knows if they didn’t cook this up (B and Carole) for whatever reason. I think there’s something not being said about their real relationship but there sure are alot of “hints”. Adam was a beard.
I was with right up to the end. Then, “Adam was a beard,” ended your post. That’s new. You’re saying Carole is not a straight woman? Is there any evidence of that?
There is another site eluding that but doesn’t say which housewife who just ended a relationship has a long term girlfriend. Everyone on the site guessed that it was Carole.
and just left the show (forgot to add that part).
I think she is just gender fluid. It’s common among women i know, especially as they age. Carle has flirted with Bethenny early in their friendship. She said she had the erotic dream about Carole. There were other flirty things. But I also think her relationship with Adam was real. Many women aren’t just one way or the other
I’m going to take Carole’s word for it on this one. Maybe she was going to be pushed and got in first, who knows? I highly doubt that though, Bravo loves childish spats. I bet the higher ups and production team were giddy with the fact that people have become so invested that they’re picking teams like these bitches are paying their bills.
Bon voyage princess with no castle. Please take the charitable cunt-bucket, abusive alcoholic and desperado debutante with you. ?
Well here’s Bethanny being her usual vindictive self. Good to get Carole out of the way before she starts spilling her guts on the truths about Bethanny.
Why does Tinsley always wear those French braids? Swiss Miss? not a good look, ages her.
Heidi
I’m just glad I don’t have to look at the fug that is Carol’s face.
I feel like the past few episodes Carole has been in a way taunting Bethenny. During their talks Carole’s tone was like a mother trying to reason with a bratty kid. It came off condescending to me. She also seemed to play up her friendship with Tinsley and then talk about Bethenny being so much drama, which she is but Carole never seemed to mind that before. She knows it’s easy to get Bethenny spooled up and it seemed she tried to do that a few times. Carole is pretty shady IMO.
People ripping Carole over her weight really bugs me. I have had a weight problem my entire life. Too thin, then when Twiggy came along and thin was in — I got fat overnight. Well, within two weeks. One thing that I learned is that if you work on it, you can LOSE weight if you are overweight. But to GAIN weight when you are too thin is virtually impossible. Alcohol and milkshakes are the most surefire way to gain weight. But even that doesn’t always work.
I’m also rail thin and always have been (even more so after surviving stage 3 breast cancer). Anytime I see nicknames for the real housewives, e.g., “Meth” (Bethenny) and other shit like that, I completely ignore it because there isn’t anything I can do about it. I am what I am and feel good in my own skin and that’s all that matters! (People that rip on others about their weight, etc. have a lot more issues going on probably need to have a come to Jesus meeting with themselves – JMHO.)
This is why Bethenny has no friends, family or significant other.
She’s the only person to ever decide to leave?.
After her tweet reminded Aviva that she was the one to get her on the show..so what? Is no one allowed to have an opinion ever because you got them on a show?
Bethenny has only child syndrome.
Bethenny is nobody’s friend.
Considering her a friend will only get you burned to a crisp.
I can’t understand why B felt the need to post this. If Carole is gone, why should she care why? Beth always has to have the last word. I’ve always liked B for her smarts and wit, but she just doesn’t know when to step back. It’s no wonder that relationships never seem to pan out for her. She is her own worst enemy.
Since Carole announced her departure, there have been multiple daily stories released including quotes from those “close to Carole” stating Carole chose to leave the show because of Bethenny. Carole has been posting online and giving quotes to magazines stating and insinuating she chose to leave because of Bethenny. “Carole quit because of Bethenny! She’s a liar and a bully.”, “thrilled to be leaving frenemies behind”, “Bethenny was a large part of Carole deciding not to return.”
Carol has made her point again and again, on every single episode, how pissed she is at Bethenny. She should have just made her statement and moved on. Reunion is long over, production is moving on toward next season and she still can’t let it go. It is no surprise that after a week and a half of this Bethenny releases a statement basically saying STFU, enough!, you didn’t choose to leave because of me, you were fired.
Exactly.
For someone who claims to love Carole, that sure isn’t loving behavior.
The love between those two was gone long before Carole’s announcement of leaving the show.
Medicated, I hadn’t read your post when I wrote basically the same thing. Carole will probably fade from the public view, so betthenny could have let it go. Instead, she reminded us of why she is so polarizing.
I thought Bravo didn’t make decisions on who is or isn’t coming back until after the reunion airs?
Exactly and that’s why I don’t believe Bethenny’s tweet. Bravo always waits for the data to be collected after the reunion airs so why would now be any different? Also, Andy referred to Carole leaving on WWHL and made it seem as if it was Carole’s decision. Isn’t it also true that Heather and Kristen both left on their own? Carole may have read the writing on the wall and felt she would not be picked up for another season, but I don’t believe we’ll ever know now, because she quit.
There are times when something REALLY BAD happens at the reunion that Andy knows in that moment they are done. It happened with Phaedra and it happened with Kim Z. Also with Jac from RHONJ .
After the reunion, it was clear that Bethenny and Carole could not longer work together. The other ladies tried to fight on Carol’s side, but in the end, Carole clearly was the one who had to go.
Bethenny stated that no other RHONY had quit.
that would explain Ramona’s dirty look in Andy’s direction on WWHL when a viewer asked her feelings about Carole leaving and she responded saying she was devastated.
What day did they film the reunion? I can maybe go back and listen to Andy’s radio show to see if he said anything. He doesn’t usually reveal details – but he does talk about how long, and if he’s really exhausted from it, etc. (ie. He was pretty upbeat about Southern Charm reunion if I remember right, and I think that was more about Kathryn.)
What Phaedra did and Kim Z’s rant were both pretty major events in their respective franchises. I can’t imagine what could have happened at this reunion that would cause such an unusual decision. I know Bravo likes to gather all the info regarding audience reactions and, unless something really major happened, I don’t believe Bethenny. It’s not like making up some whopper of a lie would be something new for Bethenny.
Andy just did an interview for Etv on Denise Richards potentially joining rhobh.
In it, he let slip that at rhony reunion the other woman “were gunning” for Bethenny
I am glad that Bethenny finally shut the Bitch down and said it like it is.
Carol has been trying to make Bethenny look like a liar for a reason,Carol was thinking ahead .Carol is far from being stupid.
Carol constantly has been attacking Bethenny trying to turn the viewer’s against her,some have fallen for it and others have not.
People that have always disliked Bethenny will believe the worst about her cause they think that to begin with.
Adam IMO was using Carol Bethenny called it out and it pissed Carol off . Caol has a pretty big opinion about herself ,She throws names out there I slept with so and so, I know so and so. I am a very Important person.
The dissolve of Adam and Carol happened when Carol chose not to keep Adam at her apartment any longer. That is why I say Adam used her.
If a guy dumped my BFF I would of said the same thing Girl the guy is a jerk and user, too to make my friend feel better. Only Carol and Adam were still doing it and Carol didn’t believe Adam was using her so Bethenny spoke before she should have.
I do think Carol is still in love with the guy. She ran a marathon to impress the guy.
My dislike of Carol has always been her arrogance .
Agree….all Beth really said was it “hit her wrong” when Adam wanted to be paid.
OMG……burn the witch. ..Total shit!
I love everything about Bethenny………..her work ethic, her wit, her snark. And she is the real deal as far as ‘ride or die’ !
You Beth haters…………just can not move past ancient history. She got in Lu’s face….. OMG!!
But Lu was the first to understand where if came from…(those two had issues from way back)
Beth hated the goody two shoes and judging everyone that Lu played. Lu acted like her shit didn’t stink.So Beth had a blow up..big fucking deal .. There have been MANY blow ups that had noting to do with Beth.
Hell I remember last season of haters freaking out because Beth learned Tom was a cheating fuck and had the gall to tell Lu. Seriously!! Anyone who really cares would have don the same.
Beth has always been herself….good, bad , or the ugly.
She’s no where close to being perfect but are you?? I’d give my eye teeth to have a friend like her
Just a theory here, but I wonder if people who hate Bethenny actually know someone who reminds them of Bethenny and that person confuses them/makes them uncomfortable/irritates them in some way. I say that b/c I HATE Brandi from RHOBH, just hate her, and she is definitely an avatar for a type of person that I generally don’t mix well with. I generally mix well with Bethennys ; flawed, funny, open, a bit much sometimes, quick witted, damaged in some way, sensitive.
I’m not a Bethenny hater but I certainly don’t like her. It’s not because of ancient history, it’s because of the way she acted this season. When confronted with facts, Bethenny twists thing and nit picks. When that isn’t getting the desired result she starts yelling and talking so fast no one else can get a word in edgewise. You could see Bethenny was really rattled when even that did not force Carole to bow down, so she cried. She would be an exhausting friend and I don’t blame Carole for needing a break from it.
I think the only reason Carole lasted as long as she did is because Andy Cohen practically wets himself knowing someone who is Kennedy adjacent.
Bravo is laughing as theyve gotten their ratings up and that people are really believing all this stuff.
Pretty sure Bethenny made the statement to defend herself, Carole “implied” the problems with Bethenny had to do with her leaving to avoid the embarrassment of the public knowing she was fired. Andy will admit to firing her at some point in the future on WWHL.
Does anyone here remember when B was on WWHL two years ago Andy bragged that she was the only HW to leave of her own choice? He bragged about getting B back on the show and what it took for him to do that.
Carol was fired.
Not a fan of Carole I think she is an arrogant asshole BUT I think B was right and Carole was going through something. The more B tried to find out what the problem was the more Carole took her shit out on B.
Bethenny had lousy luck and timing of telling Carole that Adam was an operator, she told her that about the time Carole was figuring out Adam was an operator.
I have always followed Adam on IG and he was posting pics of him and the girl who became the new GF for two years before he and Carole broke up. Shopping, cooking and flirting with obvious chemistry. The girl is cute and age appropriate lol.
You can tell in the pics the girl worshiped Adam at the time. One was posted the same week Adam celebrated Caroles bday with her.
I feel for Carole it hurts to realize you are indeed a fuck buddy and Carole did all the things she told Tinsley to do to make a change–cut the hair, change up the style etc. It just doesn’t play as well on Carole.
Bethenny had every right to speak up if she knew Carole was fired yet blaming her. The first couple of days after the announcement Carole kept posting shitty jabs at B then taking them down an hour later. Bravo may have got involved in that as Carole still had an obligation to promote the boat episode on social media.
Not being able to make a writing deadline, feeling fucked over by Adam and just being bitter made Carole have no interesting story line this season –other than to go after her friend spoke badly about the boyfriend about the time she was figuring him out herself.
Bravo does have focus groups and I can tell you for sure the majority of one group hated Carole. Instead of giving Ramona valiums Carole should have kept them for herself, then she might still have a job. Carole’s ego is hurt over being fired.
Thank you for putting into words what I could not!
Always has to the have the last word Frankel. She could have just said bye, Felicia, and moved on.
Her ego gets in the way.
Carole is an entitled, smug, sanctimonious asshole. She judges everyone and everything, except herself. Thou doth protest too much…
Take a look in the mirror and while you are at it…for God’s sake take the fillers or whatever the hell you have stuffed in your cheeks out. Your face is rippled and warped like a pillow that shouldn’t have been put in the washing machine. Ugly from top to bottom.
What gives you the right to speak about another person like this? Are you so perfect? This kind of rhetoric does not belong here.
Is this your first time to this website? He or she never said they were perfect. Opinions are like a-holes, everyone’s got one and sometimes they stink. I don’t agree w the comment myself, but stop w your suppression of free speech moron.
I have been following this blog for around 5 years and it is one of the few where a level of civility is maintained. Free speech is a great right but mocking a person for their appearance is not appreciated. And…Fuck You!
Not only are you delusional, you can’t read and YOU dont set the tone for this website. Are you planning to scold TT for putting up the pic of Scheana’s butt implants or whatever they are?
Adios lunatic!
Jo Jo, you’ve been here for five minutes and you;re already brawling with the regulars? THis does not bode well for you time here.
I normally don’t read blogs, but with all this hoopla… went back and read a few snippets of carols. Holy crap she has gotten mean and nasty. There just seems to be a back story , there is just too much anger and venom towards Bethany. I’ve been under weight for at least 10 yrs. had every test under the sun, heard every insult . Old old old . My sister always had a derogatory comment to me, until I said you’re jealous cause you’re fat. Holy cow end of world !! See how it feels (to her) she never said it again. Some things we have no control.
I’m returning to this post much later because beyond Carol and Bethenny’s petty but brutal argument I wanted to talk about housewives who quit! While I do get what Bethenny is saying, I don’t think she is the only housewife ever to quit. My list of housewives who I believe quit are: Bethenny, Caroline Manzo, Dina Manzo (round 1), Laurie (bc of her son, right?), Lydia (round 1), that lady who moved to Chicago from the first season of OC. I also wonder if Camille prefers friends status over full time. Isn’t this discussion more interesting?
Bethenny said she was the only *NY* housewife who quit.
Oh, well I don’t doubt that. I still find this speculation much more fun.
I likey this game!
Dina Manzo did not quit first round, she was fired because Danielle Staub told production Dina forged Lexi’s dad’s signature on the permission to film a child legal docs. Second round, no idea.
Camille didn’t quit either, did a big media tour saying she was devastated negotiations went south and she was demoted to friend of.
I think Caroline Manzo quit, I think the randoms I don’t remember from season one OC quit.
I think the blonde from Miami that ran a magazine demoted herself after her son’s accident and the other one got in trouble with the law.
I think NeNe quit. Kim Zolziack quit.
You are not very good at this .
Bethenny’s post was about NY women only and even that is not correct. Heather quit, although there was some issues with her business partner who may have forced her, and Kristen quit when her husband was outed as having been a client of the infamous website that had it’s client list published a few years ago.
I think now that Carole is out, hey should throw Kenya in the mix…give Bethanny a run for her money.
I can’t imagine that working on any level. Kenya’s shady ways would be dismissed by the NY women.
I don’t believe a word that comes out of Bethenny’s mouth. They haven’t even aired the season finale, let alone the reunion, and she wants us to believe that they fired Carole? Did Bravo offer Bethenny and the other wives contracts for the new season yet? I seriously doubt it so I doubt they decided to fire Carole.
PS…I think Andy should add Drita D’Avanzo from Mob Wives to the cast. She’ll teach all those New York Cirty wives how badass they aren’t
How funny would it be to watch Drita during Beth’s histrionics?
It has been almost 48 hours since Bethenny outed Carole, NOT ONE person has disputed her tweet, including Carole.
On the same line, it’s been 48 hours since Bethenny ‘outed Carole’ and not one person has confirmed her tweet nor has she offered any evidence that Carole was fired…just her word. Why does everyone think Bethenny knows everything, because she said she know everything in one episode? Maybe Carole doesn’t feel a need to confirm or deny Berthenny’s claim
Truth.
Page Six reported last week Carole was fired.
Oh come on. Page Six is hardly a credible source and Sonja is always feeding them crap. Sonja is keeping herself firmly planted up Bethenny’s behind because she needs the income from the show so she’ll tell them anything Bethenny wants.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
Well crap. Now I want Carole to come back so we can see it all go down.#bravobrawl
We’ll see something at the reunion. I kinda feel bad for everyone. There are different climates in every group of women, add on storm/estrogen surges and alcohol fueled grievences, misunderstandings and strong personalities? Recipe for disaster. I want better for these ladies!
Bethenny vs Omarosa,Bethenny walked away with a Big L.
Bethenny vs Jason, yet another L
I wish they had gotten rid of her instead of Carol
Do we really want this show to have one Lord and master with the rest of the women afraid to challenge her. That sounds really boring. The show was turning into a fair fight but I don’t want to watch these women cringe and agree with Bethenny cause otherwise you’re fired. I like Bethenny but dealing with Caroles perception and her feelings would have helped Bethenny grow as a person and be happier. Sometimes we need the criticism from those we love.
I started watching RHNY when Carole joined the show. I was curious why she would join the show. Fired or quit, Carole was ready to leave. She jumped the shark when she was on social media in May promoting a coffee brand dressed up as a princess with a horse and carriage!
I think you’ve addressed the problem of weird spelling of common names.It’s a struggle to say Bethenny and not Bethany, or add an ‘e’ to Carol. If you want to be special, name your kids something like cuntsatchel. You will know about spelling, Tamra, Tamera.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but Carole responded on Twitter to a comment that Luann also said she was not invited back. She said L should focus on her addiction and family problems. She’s, “..all good.”
Carole and her too cool for school attitude is nauseating. Good riddance!