It’s finally time for the Southern Charm reunion finale we have been waiting for where Ashley gets her comeuppance.
First,we talk about Kathryn’s disappearance this season and how concerned everyone was for her. Why is Cameran wiping away tears already? Kathryn says that she is back on her medication. Craig says he feels bad that he didn’t check in with her on a more regular basis. Everyone is very supportive. They fail to mention she had both of her grandmothers pass around that time and a lot going on with Thomas and the multiple drug tests.
On to Shep’s liver. Shep talks about the difference between being brown out drunk and black out drunk. Apparently, when you are browned out, you can still remember some things. Shep admits he gets a lot of sex. I heard he flies in fans to sleep with. He doesn’t always use a condom. He probably has a few dozen babies out there. They talk about Shep’s fake dating show. Lots of talk about Shep and Kathryn hooking up. He says she is great in bed. Kathryn says there is always an annual reunion hook up, perhaps this year it will be Kathryn and Shep. We get a montage about Shep trash talking all the other guys. He’s a one-upper.
Andy asks Chelsea if her problem with Austen was more about Shep getting away with stuff or Austen not standing up for himself. Austen claims that he has stood up for himself with Shep. Andy asks if anyone with a penis in this room other than him has any ambition. No one steps up to say they do.With regard to Austen being cheap, Austen says that Chelsea always grabbed for the check first. She says she doesn’t mind picking up an occasional check, but no one else she ever dated would ever have let her pay for dinner. Austen tries to cry poor and Chelsea points out that she has an actual job and Austen has a family willing to bankroll whatever venture he wants to try, and he’s still not committed to even following through on the beer thing that is still “in the works.” Austen says he wishes it were that simple. Actually, it could not possibly be any simpler unless your mama were to make all the business decisions for you.
We see Tyson, Chelsea’s adorable rescue dog that was adopted from Georgia after being used as a bait dog in Mike Vick’s pit bull fights. She says that being on the show keeps her fully booked at her barber shop and she hears all the gossip. Wow I never thought about that. I need to go get my hair done in Charleston and keep my ears open. I bet she truly does know everything. Andy asks if she hears about Thomas. With a bit of prodding she says that one of her Daniel Island clients said they saw Thomas and Ashley having huge fights outside that got very intense. Thomas threw his leftover food at her and screamed, “You’re going to send me back to prison!” Wow. Then they talk about Chelsea possibly giving Austen mixed signals. Andy reads fan feedback dying for Chelsea and Austen to be together. What kind of fools want that for Chelsea?
After a break Ashley is taken out to the empty set and placed in Shep’s spot. Andy asks her about the four-hour wait backstage and she said she was ready to run many times. Kathryn wishes she had a water gun. Craig ran out at the last minutes with his pants down.
Ashley is super nervous. Andy asks if she has been watching the show this season and how it is going for her. She says she thinks that if people just understood her humor and how she likes to poke and tease and get a rise out of people they would not take things so seriously. Really? That’s her opening line? Just kidding! Ha! Ha! Don’t you have a sense of humor? That reminds me of Teresa Giudice trying to weedle out of the crap she used to say to Caroline. She’s not off to a good start. She should have hired a crisis manager.
Andy asked about her blatant anorexia and she says she just lost a lot of weight over the stress of filming. Andy points out they haven’t been filming for a while and the weight continues to fall off. She said it was the stress of social media and people making anorexia allegations.
Here we go with the Thomas lies. Andy asked her to describe the first time they met in Santa Barbara. She claims that the first thing that Thomas asked her is what she does for a living. Well, we know that is bullshit, but perhaps she does have a crisis manager because she seems to be trying to drive the narrative away from being someone who hangs around polo fields in search of old men to support her to someone who is a loving caregiver to patients in a hospice setting. No one is coming along for this ride.
She says that her relationship with Thomas is great and that he is very romantic. She loves scaring him. Andy picks up on that right away as a kernel of truth. She’s scaring him alright but not with “little fake bugs” and “jumping from behind doors.” It more like bugs that are listening devices and jumping into his computer files. She is extremely nervous telling these lies about how she and Thomas prank each other in the shower. No one is believing a word she says. Naomie and Cameran’s eyes may actually get stuck in the back of their heads.
Andy asks about the investigation. I feel like these questions were provided to her prior to landing on the couch at the request of whoever is trying to coach her. With regard to the investigation, she says she has seen a new Thomas. She says it is humbling. They are staying in the house and under the radar right now. She has seen as softer, more sensitive, kinder, and more supportive version of Thomas. Kathryn’s face is permanent fixed in the “I just smelled a really bad fart” face. This is all sort of eerie. Other than Shep making a Norman Bates comment about the “shower play” between these two love birds no one has said a word. She basically saying Thomas treats her better since the charges were filed. She says that everyone wants to be with you when you are “up top” but it is who is with you when you are “down there” that matters. And I told him. I just said, “I am not leaving!” oh we do believe that.
Since she hasn’t brought it up, Andy asks her if she expects him to be cleared. She says,”Of course, yes. I mean it’s all hearsay! He’s not been charged with anything. These are all just allegations. It used to be you are innocent until proven guilty. Now you are guilty until proven innocent.”She looks at the floor for that entire statement.
It’s time to get shady. Andy turns to Kathryn and brings up the hook up between Thomas and Kathryn after the season four reunion. Craig is grinning ear to ear. Kathryn has a smile on her face. Thomas started dating Ashley in May and the reunion was filmed in June. Andy asks how Ashley felt about hearing about the hookup. Ashley claims that Thomas told her in July and further claimed that Thomas doesn’t lie and he was straight up about it. Everyone’s expressive faces on this episode are the highlights of the whole shit show.
Then they talk about her interacting with Kathryn’s children one week after they started dating. Ashley thinks that is just fine. Then we move on to the alleged sex in the bathroom at Shep’s birthday party. I still say they were doing coke in there. Ashley claims that Thomas only has sex on the bed. Kathryn laughs and says that’s not true. Pretty much everyone is laughing at Ashley. Naomie points out she can’t think of any other reason she would go into a bathroom with her boyfriend at a party. Ashley gets defensive and said she was nervous and it was her first time around everyone (and on camera.) Perhaps she finds giving head in the bathroom relaxing. Who are we to judge?
Next up is a montage of Ashley begging Thomas to marry her. Andy says clearly if Thomas asked you to marry him she would say yes. Ashley has a long pause before saying she is not there yet. He asked her what has changed? Is it the allegations? She of course denies that it is that. She says that once she started working she realized she needed to pump the brakes and just enjoy dating.
Andy moves on and reminds her that everyone thinks she is a gold digger. He says that Tinsley Mortimer tweeted that Ashley really, really wants to be T-Rav’s widow. Oh, buuuurrrn. From Tinsley Mortimer, gold digger extraordinaire. Ashley says if she wants to meet someone with money she can find someone with more money than Thomas. That is not money to her. She comes from Montecito. She says she dated guys there her own age with more money than he has. The lies! The lies! This one spews. Then she says of her last three boyfriends, one was a DJ, one was a bartender and one was a server and she made more money than they did. She’s finally getting pissy about all of these questions. She’s very offended by the gold digger comments. Again everyone laughs.
The next jab at Ashley comes from a viewer who wants to know why she is still with a douchebag like Thomas who flirts with Kathryn every time she is in the room. Ashley says Thomas’ blatant flirtation with Kathryn doesn’t bother her at all because she is so secure in their relationship she knew she was going home with him. So production play a montage of her insecurities around Kathryn and her admonishment to Thomas about it. She again claims she is not insecure.
Ashley is becoming increasingly more uncomfortable with each question and is picking at herself. I wonder if she is a cutter? Andy move on to Thomas posting a photo of her trick or treating on Halloween with him and the kids. She says she invited Kathryn. Kathryn responds with why does she think it is her place to invite her? Ashley lashes out now with, “I’m so sorry that I asked you to want to spend time with your children. I’m so sorry. You should want to jump through fire to be there. You could have been there.” Andy points out that she probably didn’t want to go treating with her kids and her exes new girlfriend. Ashley says she didn’t need to go with them. She could have been at the house handing out candy! Actually she doesn’t get to stay in the house. She’s in an apartment down the street.
We are still pretending that the scene in the fashion store with $10K on Thomas’ credit card was real.
We move on the fallout between Ashley and Patricia. She says that they fell out because she was inciting her to go against Kathryn. Ashley demands that Kathryn look at her. She says that Patricia was glad that she and Thomas were getting along so well because that insures that Thomas never gets back together with Kathryn. Then she says her biggest regret was going on that shopping trip with Patricia instead of going on that shopping trip with her. Almost in unison, Andy and Craig say, “That’s your biggest regret?!!!” She says yes. Craig pipes up with , “So if you could change one thing, that is what you would change?” Again, she says, “yeah.” Austen’s face is dumbstruck. I mean way more than usual.
Andy presses Ashley on what specifically ended her relationship with Patricia. Here comes her big nonsensical lie. “Well someone was calling Thomas a lunatic and everyone was pretty much saying it was Kathryn. And when I realized it was this other person that she’s familiar with (Andy says loudly, someone else, because I don’t think they are allowed to mention Luzanne’s name on the show) I told Patricia Thomas is hurt. What do you have to say about this?” Many people are confused. Because this is all a lie. Luzanne doesn’t even have social media. She says that Patricia was telling her about all of Kathryn’s “troll accounts.” She is the one with all the troll accounts. She is the one that was contacting any fool who was slightly positive to her and recruiting them to her little private boards and instructing them to go after people. She’s now backed herself into the crazy corner.
Shep says that’s not how it went down. He observed Ashley and Thomas systematically blowing up their relationship with Patricia on Twitter. Thomas tweeted to Patricia to go back to New York. Ashley also came for Patricia. And that is how the relationship between Thomas and Ashley and Patricia went up in flames.
These Hilton Head scenes really drive home the incredible amount of weight Ashley has lost since that filming. She has to be six sizes smaller. That’s drugs. Andy plays a medley of Ashley’s revolting comments in Hilton Head. He read some viewer insults including, “Ashley is literally the devil.” Then we see Thomas coming at Chelsea on the boat ride back. Only Austen made any move to protect her. Kathryn said that is the Thomas she knows. He becomes enraged, his eyes go back and he’s foaming at the mouth. The stupid cunt pipes up with, “He says the same about you.” Cameron tells Ashley that is it not normal for a man to speak to a woman like that. She says Thomas was just worried about where they were going to stay that night and for their safety. Her lies aren’t just unbelievable, they are stupid and don’t apply to the situation at hand at all. Thomas is threatening a female with violence and her excuse for that behavior is he was just worried about their safety for the night? The entire house was worried about their safety if they let you two fucknuts back in the house. She is certifiable. She tries to say that Thomas behavior was out of line but we see her at the time smirking and calling everyone Kathryn’s enablers. Then she says that Kathryn almost missed her last drunk test. She was working, she got caught in traffic, and she made it. She claims Kathryn has only ever taken four drug tests. That’s not true. We’ve seen her black and blue arms in multiple episodes this season. Ashley says that if it was about her kids she would have been there at 8 o’clock in the morning. Kathryn points out that none of this is Ashley’s business and she doesn’t seem to realize what a complete asshole she is. Everyone one laughs at her again. Ashley turns to Andy and says, “Next, Andy.” Oh you know he hates when people say that.
Next is Ashley’s psycho behavior on the stairwell toward Chelsea. She just kept repeating “Chelsea” over and over it was like a really scary movie. She said that just because you give birth doesn’t make you a mother. Andy points out that is a really horrible thing to say. Ashley agrees and says she was being a bitch. Ashley offers no apology.
Andy asks if there was anything she said in Hilton Head that she would like to apologize for. She says yes, but then she simply apologizes for saying it on camera in front of everyone instead of pulling her aside and sharing her feelings. She still doesn’t get that no one gives a shit about her feelings. She is not entitled to have feelings about Kathryn and her relationship with her children. She is such a dumb bitch. So fucking dumb. Everyone points out that she is apologizing for where and when she said the disgusting comments but not for the disgusting comments themselves. Ashley says she believes everything she said and asks if they want her to lie and say otherwise. Cameran thinks that Thomas has brainwashed her. I do not. I think that Ashley is working her own bizarre agenda.
Next we have yet another montage, this one is of Thomas trash talking Ashley. Andy asked if watching that bothered her. At first she admits she was shocked to see it and that it was a point of contention between Ashley and Thomas. Then she flip flops and says he was just trying to get a reaction and it’s all entertainment. Then she says we don’t know what is said behind closed doors. Kathryn says she does! LOL. Shep says if this is how y’all behave with all the cameras on you, behind close doors behavior must be horrendous! Ashley tells Shep not to judge. Are you fucking kidding me? She’s been the judge and jury of Kathryn all season. She is trying to pretend that no one understands the wonderful relationship she has with Thomas
Cameran points out that Charleston is a small town where everyone knows everything. Cameran said what people are hearing that her relationship with Thomas is very volatile and not good at all. Andy brings up the story about Thomas and Ashley fighting outside a restaurant (I thought it was his house, I must have misunderstood) and Thomas throwing his leftovers at her. She gets really quiet and puts her head down in her lying position, and says “No, he was not throwing leftovers at me. He was upset because I was leaving and I handed him the food and he threw them. It was me. I was being a brat.” Oh this is good. Right before she answered this question, Cameran was talking about how Thomas’ behavior is not normal and Craig said to Ashley, “It’s not your fault.” This gave Ashley 30 seconds to come up with her response which is now SO MUCH PLAYING THE VICTIM. I don’t think she is the victim at all I think she is blackmailing the living shit out of him and I don’t feel the least bit bad about Thomas being on the receiving end. These two deserve each other. Now she is saying it is not fair to talk about that situation because Thomas is not here to defend himself.
Cameran keeps harping on Ashley about all the horrible things Thomas has said about the mother of his children. Then she brings up all the horrible things Thomas has said about her to all of them. Ashley says all of that has changed. Then she asks if this is an intervention. She keeps asking that we please trust her judgement. Who the hell would trust her judgement. She with a guy who shit talks her. She’s asked every other member of the cast if they would date her if she dumped Thomas. She’s running little troll farms on the Internet. She’s attacking some poor woman on the west coast you made the mistake of going out with Thomas a few times and then seeing him for what he was and dumping him. She’s violating the HIPPA rights of her patients all over the Internet in the most disgusting videos she sends to her trolls. She’s attacked the mother of her client’s children. I meant the list goes on forever and I want to get this up tonight. Cameran tells Ashley to save herself and go back to California and have a nice life while she still can.
Kathryn ran into Patricia in a restaurant and a waiter summoned her and Patricia apologized for misjudging her. Patricia recently went out to visit Whitney and Luzanne in LA and Kathryn tagged along and the entire trip looked like lots of fun.
And now for what may perhaps be the final pin in the Ashley balloon we bring up the escort rumors. Ashley herself left a comment on that blind. Wonder why? Naomie says that her roommate is from Santa Barbara and when she inquired about Ashley that was mentioned. As the story goes she would hang out at the polo fields during the season and then spend the off-season in Las Vegas in the casinos. Once again Ashley is trying to say that Luzanne started the rumors. Again, Luzanne has no connection to anything other than being set up with Thomas by Patricia and being friends with Patricia. Luzanne has nothing to do with Ashley other than being the victim of a terrible smear campaign led by Ashley on social media. Thomas invited Luzanne to the reunion last year and she declined. Ashley was livid that she was not invited. Thus her jealousy turned into criminal behavior. And she still can’t stop talking about her.
Kathryn says that he had Ashley sign an NDA regarding her relationship with Thomas and it certainly appears that money has changed hands. Craig say he thinks that Ashley is threatening to testify against Thomas in court and she is holding that over his head. Kathryn thinks that Thomas is afraid of what she will do if he breaks up with her. Ashley starts defending the relationship saying all of the bad times are behind her and she is very secure in her relationship now. Then she ends a long rant with “And you’re not going to be invited to our wedding.”
On to the threats at the ball where she called Kathryn nothing more than an egg donor. Kathryn reads Ashley the riot act for saying those things to a mother. Then Ashley brings up Kathryn losing custody of her children. Andy says that he has to commend Kathryn for her behavior outside the ball because he thinks that would have caused him to get physical in that situation. It’s completely unacceptable behavior.
Kathryn tells Ashley that she doesn’t feel comfortable having her around her children. She says, “You are an unkind, hateful, sadistic person and unfortunately if you need to have this message delivered to you like this I will deliver it.” Ashley says she would love to try to make amends. She made no effort to do that for the past hour.
Ashley is a hot mess back stage. They had to send to lady sitters to keep an eye on her at dinner.
They try to end with some positivity. Kathryn’s grace and restraint and a toast to five seasons with Austen’s beer that everyone (except Kathryn who had coke) agrees is very tasty.
And that’s a wrap for the season.
Whoa. This all looks and sounds so crazy… But then again, so are Thomas and Ashley. I can’t wait to see Cameran and Chelsea spill the tea on “the word on the street”.
Also, am I the only one who fears Ashley will try to find another way to get back on TV if/when her “relationship” with Thomas finally reaches the end of the contract… Oops, I mean end of the road. If I end up seeing her begging LVP for a job at Sur, I hope she remembers to conduct that background check.
Please, let her go to Savannah, maybe that show will become interesting…
Haaa! Great idea!
Lmao!!!!!!
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It would appear that I’m the only one with compassion for Ashley. Yes, she did lose it at dinner with Katherine, but seriously she did not stand a chance with those mean girls. What a bunch of hypocrisy to have Cameron, the coldest woman on reality TV, who every season prior, didn’t have a kind word or ounce of compassion for Katherine now school Ashley. To have Katherine rip into Ashley and call her mean spirited and berate her and wear it as a badge of honor is wrong. To have Naomi, who is clearly a total bully to anyone at anytime smugly snarl how proud she is to accuse Ashley of being an escort is horrible! To have Austen tell Thomas rumors are Ashley’s an escort, and than cry foul when Ashley merely said “what if I said that about your sister”! It really drives me crazy when too many jerks behave really badly towards others, but then have this false sense of entitlement that others must walk on egg shells around them. Austen, who is normally kind and civil was a di_k to Ashley at Patricia’s Ball, Ashley bent over backwords to try to be nice to Katherine in the beginning but Katherine and Naomi were total mean girl bullies to her without even knowing her. To say Katherine is well bred, sure, she was bred to sleep with Thomas, Shep, Whitney and almost Craig all within days of each other. I felt bad for Katherine when Cameron, Patricia, Whitney and Craig were piling on her, and now I feel for Ashley. Katherine turned to drugs and alcohol, Ashley loses her appetite
That’s no “loss of appetite” you’re seeing. Just sayin’!
Ashley NEVER attempted to be nice to Kathryn. When the two of them met for lunch, one of the first things Ashley did was ask Kathryn if she wanted a drink. Total cunt move. Ashley did everything she could do to instigate a fight, to trigger some sort of a nasty response from Kathryn this season. She failed. In her failure she has shown herself to be a horrible person and deserving of the cast and public’s nasty response.
She didn’t ask her if she wanted alcohol. She asked her if she wanted a drink. Ashley was ordering herself a drink and asked her if she wanted a drink. That is totally normal. Kathryn could have ordered water, soda, or whatever.
You can write whatever bullshit you like but it doesn’t make it true. Ashley asked, “Are you having a cocktail?” and it was a nasty, cunt question.
Hi Ashley!
Yes, I do believe you are correct.
lrlcon? Have we been watching the same show? Ashley’s behavior was bitchy, spiteful, and delusional from the time Kathryn was introduced to her. Everything she said was designed to put Kathryn down and hurt her, and yet you criticize Kathryn’s friends for their reactions? Incredible.
@Irlcon You seem like the type to send supportive fan mail to serial killers in prison. Ashley is textbook psychopath.
Tamara, you know @lrlcon has got to be one of Ashley’s dummy accounts or an Ashley minion! Off to the WLS is my vote, not telling you how to run your blog, just putting my vote in ;). In an effort to tamp down the trolls.
Oh TT, you are hilarious! This is why we love you!!!
#HiAshley!!
I agree with you. I think they are ganging up on Ashley. It seems many have forgotten Kathryn behaved horribly and wasn’t much different that Ashley just a couple of seasons ago.
Thomas did not make Kathryn use drugs. Kathryn made that choice for herself. Kathryn didn’t lose her kids she chose drugs. Stop making excuses for her.
I’m surprised more people aren’t sickened to see how proud the cast of Southern Charm are when they attack Ashley. It is a bullying mentality they are setting up. That is never ok. I would be much more impressed if they showed compassion.
You might want to rewatch. I did not feel that they “ganged up” on her in a negative way. Yes they all did vocalize at once that she was being brain-washed and that they had seen Thomas do things to her that a boyfriend should not do. They also tried to tell her all the negative stuff Thomas said about her to them (which she should know if she has watched any of the show). I felt the cast was very generous to her given her tirade at HH (which from all accounts was WAY worse that what was shown on TV). I think they did have compassion for her and were shocked by her appearance. This bunch could have really nailed her to wall for what she said to Kathryn but they held back. The only bully I have seen is Ashley by her alpha female (her description of herself) verbal attacks on Kathryn, Danni, and Chelsea.
This is hilarious. No one attacked her at all. The only time they went below the belt was the escort rumors.m and that’s not even bad because literally everyone is reporting that. Ashley pooped off all season long behaving awfully they all basically just walked away, took it or ignored her. She literally called a mother an egg donor, bragged she saw her kids more than the mom did (knowing she couldn’t per a custody agreement) . She offered someone recovering and just went through rehab a drink on camera, she admitted all the info she had came from Thomas… I could go on forever. No one gave KD a pass, have you even watched prior seasons?! She is getting support now because she has made positive changes and has bettered herself, it’s called support to someone who earnestly seems to be working to change, Ashley might garner some herself if she would apologize and work to change but no she doubles down and continues to act like a psycho on social media.
IrI-con, please do not try your “Ashley is a poor victim” con on us. She is a brutal aggressor/manipulator and gas-lights others to such a degree that anyone who gets near her should carry fire extinguishers and wear flame retardent clothes. You are spewing the equivalent of same tripe Ashley did at the HH-Hell that she and she alone created. “I kissed her ass, 3x” and “I’m done kissing her ass” —when what Ashley was really doing was metaphorically kicking Kathryn non-stop in the gut, while trying to rip out her mother’s heart. Your “compassion” for Ashley is a horrible insult to those who have been the target of her vicious and remorseless bullying. #Bye Ashley
#HIASHLEY
Wow. Where did you come up with that scenario?
What show did you watch? She never stood a chance? They tried to be nice and include her in everything while there and she acted like a complete jealous jerk. She is the one that started the problem at the table, Katheryn calmly told her she didn’t want to discuss it there, she went off the hinge and spewed vile crap from her own mouth and KD basically sat and took it. She had months and months to apologize for that and another chance at reunion and she just doubled down on what she said and only apologized for when and where she said it. She was invited to things by the cast from the get go. I seriously have no idea where you’d come up with she never stood a chance… she wears given more of chance than KD ever was. Also, to say all she did was lose her appetite is laughable… the woman looks like a skeleton, she is a jittery mess, makes no sense when she speaks, can’t listen to others when they talk, gets aggressive out of no where… she is a complete mess. I can have compassion for people who show remorse or improvement… she has yet to do that.
Yes Dear, you probably ARE the only person on this site of wonderful people who has any “compassion” for her. I wonder if you ever felt any for Katherine.
#HiAshley
Wow! It’s like you were actually at the reunion!
#HiAshley
Hi Ashley!
#HiAshley
This has been a sad season, Kathryn has done some bad things but she does not deserve what Thomas and Ashely have done to her. She has shown some strength and I’m routing for her. Please no more Austin and Naomi I really hate watching them in addition to Thomas and Ashley. Chelsea I love, she’s so sweet and down to earth.
In a weird weird way in the realm of reality tv shit shows… I kind of found it empowering. I KNOW a lot of stuff is staged, set up, etc.
But I do believe all these women coming together and supporting one another (but not necessarily excusing behaviors) is genuine and I don’t know how to describe it… refreshing maybe?
I mean, I don’t like a lot of the things Naomi has said to Craig… but I do think Craig needs to work on himself a bit. It is like in college – two friends dated for a while. Together it was vile, but I loved ’em both separately.
I can see what you mean, but for me I just keep thinking of Kensi and Saint. We’ll all eventually move on to other shows but for them this is all real life. They seem really happy and that’s great but I just think Thomas has shown to be a very troubled man and Kathryn has an uphill battle to continue to fight.
Craig is no saint, but Naomi seems very angry inside. She seems to have a nice family and a lot going for her but even when talking about Craig’s date on the season finale she just seems mean spirited. I couldn’t help but notice Kathryn seemed a bit over her as well.
I don’t know if Kathryn was “over her” but did call her out a little, which if their friendship is real, it will survive that.
As for Kenzie and Saint? If they were to ever see this, they should only be proud of what their mama has done to grow and mature so she can take care of them.
That’s a great way to look at it, I hope they do because she deserves it. I’ve never done drugs but I imagine having issues with that and depression is so hard to overcome and she seems to really have changed for the better.
Oh my. So much to unwrap with that episode. I have to say that Ashley and Thomas are totally codependent but they are equally psychotic and manipulative. The others made solid points regarding the parallels between young Kathryn and Ashley. I had never considered the similarities.
I loved how Shep kept getting farther from Ashley as the chat progressed. And I feel like Cam is on her way out.
Thomas and Ashley deserve one another. If it wasn’t for the kids, I wouldn’t care what they did to each other. When I was a fool and talking to her, she told me that when they went to the bathroom it was because she had a bleeding hemorrhoid! I blocked her 7 ways to Sunday after HH.
WTF WOW ?
and she’d want a man, Thomas in the bathroom with her? Disgusting comment.
Bizarre. She is a nurse. Presumably she would know how to deal with that.
Nancy, when you and Ashley talked, did she seem as though she had other agendas beyond increasing her pit bull posse? Was she as controlling in person as she appeared on the show? Did she come across as jealous? What did you think her overall intentions were? Thanks!
And she chose to wear white shorts with a bleeding hemmeroid?!?!?! LOL
Good catch!
Actually, this episode had me really conflicted on whether Ashley is playing a part (pretending to be abused/a victim) with all the self-blaming for eg. Thomas throwing the food somewhere near her but not actually *at* her, Thomas only saying the worst things you can say about your romantic partner because he’s provocative and cute like that…
– or is she perhaps, genuinely brainwashed by Thomas Ravenel? I honestly would love to know what anyone else thinks.
Seems she just has received info on Kathryn only from Thomas, despite her saying ‘a lot of people’ have shit-talked Kathryn to her. That makes me think he might actually be the one in charge here, especially if he really has a solid NDA… she won’t be able to threaten him with that hanging over her head… surely? Possibly, I don’t really know how much legal weight an NDA has.
Anyway, Craig was so on it in this half of the reunion, insightful and really unlike the other guys, not afraid to call Thomas’s BS out, as he saw it. Shep, however, wasn’t going down that road.
Long time reader, never posted before. Used to come here mainly for the RHOA / RHONY tea but S.C. has really taken the biscuit this season! Thanks Tamara for an awesome recap once again.
I believe initially Patricia was also confirming what Thomas was telling everyone about Kathryn. She even admitted she had no idea what was really going on versus what she’d been told. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Cooper put his 2 cents in because he’s still very angry with Kathryn.
Hi Nancypants, it is very clear that Cooper Ray has it in for Kathryn, whilst defending Thomas too the death. I’m pretty peeved that he believes that as women know what Thomas is like they deserve the way he treats them – but I’m thinking that maybe apart from just being overawed by the Ravenel name that maybe they also share some, er pastimes apart from drinking. This could explain Kathryn keeping her distance from him since she returned from rehab
I wonder if Cooper is the third in the alleged video. That might explain why Thomas doesn’t want it out….
Very interesting theory. You may be on to something!
Patricia (and Whitney?) told Cooper Ray to stop being friends with Kathrun, he said no. He was cut from the next seasons.
Surprised they have not made up.
Having joined Cooper Ray’s FB group I am NOT surprised – he doesn’t think there is anything wrong with Thomas’ behaviour – a red flag. There is more to that falling out & his with Kathryn than we have been led to believe.
Wait, I didn’t know Cooper Ray hated Kathryn now! Someone fill me in!
I would prefer we not discuss KCooperRay’s feelings about Kathryn because we have no idea what they are now. Sadly though, I still believe his feelings are still the same as they were when she returned for rehab and allegedly relapsed. That story with commentary by K Cooper Ray is here.
http://tamaratattles.com/2017/04/07/tamara-tattles-exclusive-interview-with-shelby-dennis-and-k-cooper-ray/
He has not has any interaction with her since that time and it is unclear whether or not his feelings have changed.
I don’t think she is brainwashed at all. She is the boss, remember? Lol. Seriously, Thomas doesnt have the type of hold on her like he did on Kathryn. I really don’t understand why Kathryn is pretending there is a shadow of a comparison there when clearly she knows the truth.
Mrs. B., I agree that Craig was on it last night. To me, Craig’s behavior on the two reunion shows showcased perfectly the reasons he elicits so much opinionated commentary. The first show was the worst of him and on the second he showed the best side of himself.
The group’s reactions often seem so mean-spirited coming from such privileged people who’ve never had the daily struggles of the less fortunate and therefore zero comprehension of the realities of the uphill climb of people born in more ordinary circumstances. But I understood the group’s reactions to him a little better watching the two sides of him so fully displayed. Craig exhibits so much potential only to p*** it all away and it’s difficult to watch people do that. This is something they’ve all said before, but it kind of crystallized for me last night while watching him still at it after years on the screen. It often leads to ribbing in an attempt to more gently open the individuals eyes to what he’s doing to himself and when that doesn’t succeed, it becomes more aggressive.
They need to let it go and accept him as he is, but at least some of it comes from a good place as they’ve been claiming thus far, because I know I certainly allow people the freedom to take themselves down without comment unless I really care about them and we all know that rarely goes over well with people.
Sorry to go on (as I do it anyway) but I thought Shep did rather the same. He seems to show real empathy for Kathryn and Patricia, both of whom he deems of sufficient social standing. His mother elucidated more than once the family’s “not our kind, dear” philosophy with her “just wants to live the life” commentary that he seemed eager to affirm. He gave TR a score of 9/10, notwithstanding the 1/10 being egregious behavior while he consistently one ups any of the males he deems not of his status in the competition the for women and can exhibit some nasty expressions in the course of it. I just can’t trust the whole just a bounding good-natured fun-loving retriever act the rest of the time because of it all. I do think his attraction to Kathryn is real because he believes she’s sufficiently well-born and more equal intellectually than his usual one-nighters and that she has none of the moral high ground on him.
Shep is image-conscious enough that he had his eyes spruced up for the reunion. He must read here!
I thought he looked awful.
I think he is just that and it’s interesting when I see the more established cast members kiss Whitney’s and Patricia’s rings. I also think some of the cast’s support of KD is pure PR. They didn’t like the backlash. I took some of Shep’s statements as laying out his worldview: Take care with those at your level or above. He seems to react most visibly to anything he knows will provoke a reaction from the audience or someone in his sphere.
I believe Ashley is playing a victim. That woman is very cunning and manipulative and she is now trying to figure out a way to no longer be so hated. So now she’s going for the self blame act so people will feel sorry for her. I think Ashley is very skilled at her game. I’m sure Thomas isn’t the first guy she has done this with.
I think she’s being manipulative. I think she willingly went up against Kathryn without knowing she was way out of her league. She’s his hired dog, but her behavior is her own, including the false victimhood she’s now trying to play.
Ashley seems to go from one extreme to another often. I noticed a few times during the season and it always seemed to come out of left field. And she did that tonight on the reunion. She is really crazy, like very unstable and I feel a tiny bit bad for her. It’s very obvious that she envy’s Kathryn and her beauty and the fact that she has Thomas’s children. I do love how Chelsea had the gossip, I am also a stylist and we hear it all. I am really happy Cameran made things right with Kathryn, she has come so far and grown so much and it took Cameron being pregnant and having her baby to get there. I still adore Austin, can’t help it, and I live his glasses.
Thank you, TT, for this recap. You are faster than a speeding bullet!
I’m itching to talk about the part 2 reunion and your website gives me a place to vent. Thank you –Thank you!
I am an animal lover and hearing about Tyson, being rescued from that vile dog fight underworld, makes me love Chelsea more than ever. To know that Tyson gets so much lovin’ from his mama & has such a good life now, makes me cry. Also, I loved that Naomie rescued that little paralyzed kitty. Nice to know Naomie has a tender side & I respect her for it.
Okay, I have to admit that I heard an interview with Patricia Altchul talking about how Kathryn had to take drug tests every 3 weeks, but when Ashley came into the picture Kathryn was made to take those tests 3 times a week. So, when Ashley got on her high horse about Kathryn almost missing her last drug test I couldn’t help but think about the possibility of Ashley’s influence on that. Sadistic, evil, wicked, fucking bitch!
I wanted to punch her face during this reunion. I mean I was literally yelling, “I can’t stand this bitch!” She has no regrets about what she’s said to Kathryn so I have no sympathy for her.
On the flip side, it was a relief to hear Kat admit how Thomas’s face drops, his eyes turn black, and now everyone has seen & knows what she’s had to endure. I’m happy that Kat got to say those words while surrounded by very sympathetic & supportive friends. I have great compassion for Kat.
I am imagining Thomas watching the reunion and flipping out when Chelsea revealed her gossip RE the food fight. Plus, hearing all of his friends’ comments about him tonight? You know he’s freaking his shit.
Anyway, what a season, hey? Wow!
it almost makes me want to request to follow Thomas on Twitter.
totally off topic, but i have to ask kathryn, re: the dress she wore. why, just why?
she is very pretty, and really did not need the boobs hanging out and all that
gold crap all over the dress. she looked liked she was just trying to hard, and
made her look cheap. not the look, she should be going for. all the other ladies
dressed pretty much the same as each other. and they looked charming. please
k, not the look you want/need to express, especially as a mother of a little girl.
that should be trying too hard. no to. sorry for the typo.
This dumb bitch. Ashley’s behavior is and has been completely horrific but I laughed my ass off over her thinking someone else— Patricia or Gwynn’s would pick up the tab for a nobody. Pleeeeease.
And her whole “Thomas doesn’t have what I consider money” omg I was screaming at the tv. My dog is literally worth more than she is.
OMG, Meredith, I was doing the same screaming & my dogs got an earful tonight, too. LOL!
Who the fuck does she think she is? Thomas’s net worth isn’t “money” to her? Then buy your own designer shit you worthless slore! Shit I took pride in buying my own LV bag whrn I was 24! And I come from money. But not according to Ashley.
This basic bitch went to community college by her own admission and is buried in legal fees. She is literally the worst person I’ve seen on reality tv, probably ever.
I do not have even an ounce of sympathy for her. The rest of the cast was a lot more generous than I’d have been. Then again I’d have physically hit her if she said what she said to a friend of mine like she did to Kathryn, fuck getting arrested.
Omg SLORE! I ❤️ this
Slore…at first i thought it was a typo, then i got it!
Slut+whore=slore!
Fuck off and die, Ashley.
I can picture Whitney asking Thomas, when first seeing Ashley,
“I don’t care who you stick it in, man, but who’s the slore?” LOL
Same. I was definitely yelling at the tv and my dog was very confused. I couldn’t help it, Ashley is the worst human being and i just want to bitch slap her so bad.
Having a Nerf gun loaded and ready is very calming…lol
my poor cats have PTSD from screaming at this show??
oops that should have said from me screaming at this TV show
I thought she said that in her defense od being called a gold digger. Thomas wasn’t rich enough for her to be with him for money.
Fuck the water gun, Kathryn needs a protective order.
P.S. with very few exceptions, court orders trump n.d.a’s and it wouldn’t be a breach of the n.d.a. to testify in that circumstance.
It is amazing that you were able to upload this brilliant recap so quickly TT! You must have a Harry Potter wand! It did seem as if Ashley had received some of the questions in advance. At the very least, it felt like some spin-meister told her to take the stance of a girl truly in love, a hopeless romantic and hard working nurse who just wants people (Kathryn not herself) to be accountable. It was annoying as Duck. Her “sorry not sorry” “I just don’t respect you Kathryn” attitude is despicable. Good for Kathryn for telling her off. And talk about playing “the long game”. Her almost 9 month mantra of “I’m not going anywhere – is beyond eerie. It is “Skeleton Key” creepy. I keep getting visions of TRav trying to pry himself loose from her amphibian fingered death grip- because “she ain’t going nowhere”. She strikes me an actress who gloats over those she believes she is fooling, and a manipulator who is playing a part and desperate to get T-Rav’s ring on her froggy finger. She has, as she has said, “invested so much”, and this is it for her, and woe betide anyone who she sees as being in the way of that objective. I just worry about Kathryn’s children. This rapacious nut-job, who puts her patients on self -serving videos to her fans, should not be anywhere near Kathryn’s precious children. With her rapid weight loss and the way she talks, why isn’t Ashley being randomly drug tested if she is anywhere near the children ? Or Is it true the court has forbidden Ashley to be near Kensie and Saint? And one can only wonder what prompted Thomas to say to her “you’re going to send me back to prison”? What could that be?
Imo, she is scary. Very scary.
I LOVE Skeleton Key! I want to be in your coven Scottishwitch!!!
Hey JennyJenny… I watched that movie only once! It is the scariest movie of all time! And no coven for me! The moniker is just a nod to my great x 5 grandmother from Scotland!
correction, typo, “ put her patient on self-serving video”
I’m going to start calling her Mama Cecille! ?
hahahaha! Yep! Then we could really put some HOODOO on Ashley!
I think two words sum up Ashley’s behavior- Jodie Arias. Thomas has bit off a psycho in his plan to destroy Katherine. Game, set, match to Katherine.
Supposedly she has a video that could send him back to prison. We can speculate all day long on what it could be. A video is more likely than just her having screenshots of some text or email he sent someone.
As one of your Canadians! you are a rock star Tamara! your descriptive is award winning! thank you. Hopefully this is an actual good bye Ashely.
I was thinking, do we really want Ashley gone or just not look at or hear her every episode. She kept us tuning in each week.
I sincerely hope that we never see Ashley again on our TVs.
Holy shitballs that was a lot.
I have no other words. I’m gobsmacked. Clotheslined.
Thomas screaming at her…”you are going to get me sent back to jail”!!! yep….that wacko is doing booger sugar fo’ sho!!!!
There could be other things on the video that could send him back. For example, even associating with other known felons is probably grounds to revoke his parole.
He is not on parole.
I hope if Kathryn really has matured and the kiddos are her numero uno now, she leaves reality tv. Although I love her gorgeous self and watching her mature into a strong young woman and mother the reality is; leave Bravo.
Get off reality, continue therapy and just focus on being the best parent you can be.
I know a lot would stop watching if she left but I feel like for the kiddos just leave, just go be an average everyday carpool,career juggling single mom albeit your are a stunningly gorgeous witty one her kiddos are best served with momma closing the door on this chapter and Thomas and the wanton narrative Bravo likes to stick on Kathryn.
She should find fashion blogger lifestyle work. She’s stunning and although her fashion sense is much too young for me now she’s impeccable and could land a career as a stylist guru.
I honestly did not watch until Kathryn was speaking. So…I surmise Ashley is a deeply disturbed and anorexic stage 5 clinger.
Good luck with that shit.
Shep and Craig I heard nada but the usual Shep cockstrutting and chest puffing on Craig’s life choices. Naomi I heard nada. Austen tried to hide his no lip no spine self ass with fancy Monopoly guy specs.
I like Chelsea so I’ve got nothing there except love your laid back live and let live vibe. Please don’t get ratchet for more screen time.
Next season Trapey is jailed the ash monster most likely will be sitting in a psych hold somewhere for a long ass time then continue rooming with the other weirdo Landon.
The rest not sure but I’ll be super passed if I commit another season to full ass grown adults all pushing 40 still spinning wheels like they are 22. As always I live for the comments here at TT… it’s life. ?
Gina … still laughing at your great post. My favorites are Shep cockstrutting and no lip Austen with fancy Monopoly guy specs!! You nailed it.
Loved your comment about Austin’s fancy Monopoly guy specs. hehehehe too funny!
I’ve been ill for the last ten days and decided to bite the bullet and watch all the seasons based solely on the tea and recaps here. Oh my lord it was better than I expected. Thomas is a very sick individual and a lot of his scenes are prefaced with a shot of what looks like exterior gaslights… What a horrible human.
I was so glad Landon left because I was close to throwing my laptop through the window at one point. Ghastly personality and her voice drove me to distraction.
I truly thought she couldn’t be topped – and then enters Ashley. I have no idea what she thought she hoped to accomplish. She truly seemed to believe the cast would back her instead of Kathryn. She is very unwell. I think they deserve to go live in the basement together.
And I hope Naomi is out next year – it’s like watching someone kick a puppy the way she speaks to Craig.
Great recap on part two!! It doesn’t air here until next week
I’m really proud of Kathryn and I love Craig. I think he’s insightful and sensitive. I would have loved a Kat/Craig connection but they seem to really be just good friends. I was so happy that Cameran came around and asked Kat for forgiveness. It seemed genuine and it was so touching. I, too, can’t help but feel badly for Ashley. I know she’s nuts, but she also seems to be disconnected from reality.
Craig’s smile is EVERYTHING. ?
** ps, we don’t want that hooker back in cali .. keep her, NC ??
ADDENDUM: ps, we don’t want that hooker back in Cali .. keep her, SC. (i clearly confuse my Carolinas)
lol, we wouldn’t notice one more out here.
No worries, so do the Carolinians. There’s two cities named Greenville, probably like three more but I get confused just thinking about it, and then I realize that I don’t care.
I think tonights episode proved that there is something seriously wrong with Ashley. I’ll just leave it at that.
Thomas deserves all the bad things coming his way. Karma
…… Ashley is working her own bizarre agenda.
This rite here TT
OoooLaLa, Chelsea is a stone cold fox. Props to commenter about the Tyson mention -Chelsea’s dog, the Vic ‘bait dog’ , really touching stuff. Chelsea rocks, so does Craig the Seamstress.
Patricia and Whitney casting have been edited down from past seasons (intentional, ofc). Their behavior brought on far too much bad PR -so they opted out, for the most part.
Whitney’s production Co., “Haymaker”, love the name (apropo, and/or honest).
Pat likes Kat b/c Kat is Whit’s cash-cow. Without Kat, viewers would have dumped SC 3 seasons ago. Ergo, Ashley will stick around. She’s Whit’s (paid, imho) reality ‘player’. So we’re left with Rav/Ashley vs Pat Smith Altschul off-season drama. The gang all supports Kat, the gang will do their thing off-season (apart from one another as they’re not truly friends outside of the Cameras, and the gang will eventually come full circle with Rav & Ash (hugs will abound for all w/in next year’s reunion). Kreskin yo!
Hats-off to Haymaker for the edits and their casting. Most people are biting -you’ve put out some believable sh*t. Btw, if you are hiring writers during the offseason -please look me up.
PS -Shep is fat AF! Did Andy ask him if he is gettng “laid”, or “lit”? (Where the gang’s consensus was 4-6 times a week). If the question asked “laid”, whoa… is Charleston full of blind women? Peace! PSS -100% true & confirmed by my East Coast source, Whitney’s dad is a septic tank cleaner (Honeydipper), in the greater Secaucus NJ area (Lon Smith).
FYI no one wants to work for Haymaker. NO ONE. Except the cast members. They are a hot fucking mess. Trust and believe I work with most of them.
Uh. Lon Hayes Smith is retired in Easton MD. He worked in the financial industry. He’s not sweeping septic tanks unless he owns a business that works in NY. Your 100% accurate source googled wrong. I have friends in Easton and from all accounts they are quiet philanthropic people who aren’t interested in being associated with this show.
Nice try TAT (hmm, is this SkankHunt41 ?). Fact, 1st round, Pat didn’t find gold in Lon. Perhaps Lon’s philanthropic endeavor(s) involves driving heavy machinery for Honeydipping Septic Co.? By all accounts, I never utilize the search engine Google, but my source would indicate Lon is semi-retired (I’ll give you that one). My source stands-by the assertion Lon’s a simple working-man w/o F*ckYou money). Whit has blue collar bones… a father with calloused hands and a desensitized olfactory sense.
Thanks TT, joking about writing for Haymaker -but I do find their name amusing.
So was Shep asked by Andy “How many times do you get laid each week?”, or “How many times do you get LIT each week?”. I like the show, but not enough to watch it again. I played it back twice, but can’t read lips (laid, lit -big difference). Lit I can believe Shep does with great ease. “Laid” however, Id have to seriously contemplate moving to Charleston. I wonder if the past members from Jump (JLC), sans Jay, still play at that live-band “backed”, Karaokee bar? Formerly “The Columbine” (or similar sounding). I killed an Iron Maiden cover on that stage. Charleston is an Ok place!
Ooohhkkkaaayyy. No trying. Just correcting. And for what it’s worth, I’ve been around a few years so I’m not sure who Skank-whatever is but it isn’t me.
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“I killed an Iron Maiden cover on that stage, Charleston is an OK place!” Best SC comment ever! LMAO! Yes!???
There will never be coming “full circle” with hugs to Ashley and TRav??? That seems crazy. Your post seemed full of inaccuracies. Pat & Whitney banned those two on social media. They’re not ‘playing’ a part for reality TV ratings of ‘banning’ — they really banned them.
I promised myself I wouldn’t watch part 2 of the Reunion because of Trashley and I didn’t! I came here and read the recap instead – thanks TT! Anytime I see or hear Trashley on my screen — I change the channel. She is awful.
Katherine should use her reality TV fame to become the next Bethenny but in fashion. She can do it!!!
Just saying, many people prob never thought Kat & Pat would hug it out. Point being, Its kinda real, kinda scripted… people tend to forgive and forget. Forgive me for being a doubting Thomas, but Im guessing the “feud” is partly made for TV, a’la Haymaker style. Save the drama for your Mama, you know?
I predict Ash may have some profound “makeover”, think Kat past season, and before you know it, Rav & Ash are drinking Michael prepped martinis at Miss Simth-Altschul’s. Reality TV (not reality, keep in mind). Peace!
What we are seeing is true psychopathy on camera and off. So your theory about is being scripted holds no water.
Thank you TT.
The real Tinsley Mortimer never said anything about the reunion. It was a fake account.
“I’m not going ANYWHERE!” -Jodi Arias
OMG. I didn’t get the similarity until just now and it’s frightening. I actually had to fast forward through the first part of Ashley’s time on the couch — it was disturbing. There is something very mentally off with her and it seemed almost too voyeuristic to watch.
I feel EXACTLY the same. I skipped watching because of scary Trashley.
Great recap… and as crazy as it was predicted here. I yelled at my TV more tonight than I have since the presidential debates. I would have grabbed Ashley by the throat if I was in Kathyrn’s shoes (been through 2 pointless custody battles with son’s father, both driven by “girlfriend”, winning both)… I am in awe of her ability to remain calm & collected!
I think Kathryn has reached a point where she knows she is good, clean and has nothing to worry about and it is killing Ashley and Thomas. Kathryn kind of has the upper hand in a way, look at this season, hell, take out any possibly skewed editing. Who looks good, decent and above board? Certainly not Ashley or Thomas. They look like vengeful asshole scheming drunks, and Kathryn is the sober southern lady. Take these allegations against Thomas, take Ashley’s crazy social media shit and then all the tape of thomasniver the last few seasons…. he’s fucked. It all leads up to Kathryn looking amazing and him looking very very bad. Just watching Ashley’s demeanor change so fast showis how unstable she is and Thomas’s rant on the ferry at Hilton Head show that neither should be around those kids. I so hope Thomas goes to prison and Ashley finds her way out of there.
Don’t know if anyone noticed but Thomas needs to buy Ashley a razor because her pits haven’t been shaved in a looong time- or maybe there isn’t any strength in those bony arms.
I thought maybe the effort to shave would take too much strength
The sad truth is… there is NO winner! Kathryn is winning, for a moment. T-Rav finally getting caught AGAIN with his drugs, rapes, and pay -offs will make us all happy for a minute. JAIL – check! Reputation ruined – check! Kids with dad in jail and having their last name ruined in a town where everybody knows your name ….. The stress of everyone looking at Katherine for the rest of her life! THE FUCK! So unfair!
I am not surprised at how Ashley acted and never said she was sorry for what she said.
Ashley what a real piece of S#[email protected]! you are, That girl deserves all the back lash that she will get .
She will waste away to nothingness.
The old saying is true heaven don’t want her and Satan is afraid she will take over, is true with this 1 for sure .
I can not believe that hatred that is bubbling up in me over her and I do not like it at all.
My butt would of been in a jail cell in New York if she came after me.
Katheryn held her composure like a true lady.Trav must be chomping at the bit.
If Trav paid her to take down Katheryn it back fired in his face and now she has 50/50 custody.
At least Trav can take her apartment and clothes as a tax write off being that she is a business expense .
Naomi saying out loud Ashley is an escort is true saying it is a known fact in the area where she came from.made me almost pee my pants laughing.Yes Ashley you are a disgusting polo girl.The lies she has to tell herself to make it through the day would drain my soul , that explains the weight loss.
Besides My opinion is she is on drugs too.
If she thought the reunion would vindicate her she was stupid to go.
The real irony here is that Katherine has actually become the woman Thomas was looking for in a wife. Being stuck with Ashley is karma laughing its ass off that Thomas did all this to himself.
Note- Thomas has never said he wants to love and care for a partner. His whole criteria for a wife is a woman who will love, support and take care of him. It’s always about what he needs. Very telling, narcissistic jerk. Ashley you are welcome to him.
the funny thing is Ashley never denied that she was an escort
Yes, and I hate that Andy didn’t ask her if she has been an escort in the past. He really has no idea what is REALLY going on on this show.
That said he was totally team everyone else before even meeting Ashley. Telling the cast that they should not be surprised if she doubles down on her antics.
I don’t think Ashley is brain-washed. If anything, she’s been trying to brainwash Thomas since the day she met him.
I do think she is mentally unstable and that, if she doesn’t get help soon with her anorexia,
she doesn’t have long to live.
Seriously – she needs help.
Every time Ashley says “I’m not leaving. I’m not going anywhere.” I hear it as a threat instead of a reassuring promise. I bet Thomas hears it that way too!
Craig sounded a lot like an attorney tonight especially when talking to Ashley. He leaned forward, spoke slowly and directly.
I still want Shep and Kathryn together in a decent committed relationship.
Holy crap Kathryn, Chelsey, Cameron,
and Craig were so supportive tonight.
P..S. If Ashley’s has a diagnosable social disorder then we will have to back off and be kinder. Let’s hope it is a short reaction to the move, being away from friends, being on tv and her stress filled living environment.
I doubt no matter how much Shep is atttracted to Kathryn he will try for a permanent relationship with her because Sheba’s kids with Thomas. Sometimes he comes across as very old school. IDK.
I heard his legal training coming out last night as well and it gave me hope for him in his life after this show.
Having a “diagnosable social disorder” (whatever the hell that means) does NOT excuse homicidal tendencies — which Trashley has.
Is that the “social disorder” you mean?
She is an awful, evil, person and needs to go away from television. She’s off mine! So I’m happy. No more TRASHLEY.
I feel the same. I don’t have to be kinder or back off Ashley. I don’t have to do a damn thing.
Wow. Just watched it. That was nuts! Glad to see Kathryn keep her composure under all of it and all of the support. That Ashley is more batshit than I thought. The looks between the rest of the cast were priceless. Love my boy Craig. Thanks for a great recap, TT. Comments have been awesome to read!
I found it interesting that Ashley kept saying how things with Thomas are different now. Essentially, she is delighted that as a result of the pending investigations, Thomas is staying home with her and not going out drinking with his buddies. She thinks she has control over him. And he might appreciate her on one level because all his friends have disappeared. It sounds sort of like when a woman has a relationship with someone in prison — his isn’t going anywhere and appreciates your attention, at least while he’s in prison.
Ashley didn’t get beat up nearly enough for my satisfaction. IDK what I had hoped for, but she was still standing and proclaiming she and Thomas would marry. And she will still be in the children’s lives unless the court has ordered otherwise.
I worry a bit about Kathryn finding a real career so that she can have the financial stability to care for the children. Right now she is riding high on her success on the show, being Gwynn’s ambassador on IG, etc. but that is not a career. I know she is young and I certainly applaud her using her fame to make money (I hope she is making decent money) outside the show because the show can’t last forever. But I’d like to see her really working for Gwynn’s or something.
I wish there would be some resolution of the various investigations of Thomas already. And I hope that the state board takes action against Ashley for her HIPPA violation/s.
Can someone please explain to me how she has a NDA and is blackmailing Thomas? Can’t he sue her pants off if she leaks anything?
One of Thomas’s concerns has to be about the recent rape and assault allegations. If he is charged, Ashley could be deposed and called to testify. In either of those circumstances a NDA would not be enforced and she could say whatever.
Yes, but the damage would’ve already been done. You can sue after the fact but you can’t retract the information they put out there.
Also you can’t get blood out of a rock
Speaking of rocks, I loved the retort: “Then stop being a rock.”
I don’t think a NDA stops being able to testify to something illegal but that has been Thomas’ modus operandi and how he intimidates and mind-fracks with women. He did it with the woman who is bringing rape/assault charges against him. Which is why her daughter told the police about Thomas because her mother is too scared to. I hope they lock this bastard up with general population in prison so he gets to see what getting frack-ed up really is….he won’t be going to white boy/white collar prison this time….
My Favorite TT quote from this recap:
“The entire house was worried about their safety if they let you two fucknuts back in the house.”
Made me crack up, right out loud, and repeat your line a couple times while still having a good belly laugh!
I am seriously concerned Ashley is a murder/suicide risk. She is all in on her relationship with Thomas, and I think if it doesn’t end positively for her she will crack.
Ashley is not brainwashed. In almost every interaction on the show she is hostile to Thomas and he just smiles a weird frozen smile. “I’m the boss right” “I’m not going anywhere”
Thomas will end up getting a restraining order against her . I’m sure it’s not her first and I bet she has s long trail of legal issues in CA.
Amazing recap! Reality show regulars have “Golden Handcuffs”. Few normal companies will give people time off to film – unless there is something in it for the company. And, few normal businesses want to be attached to all the mayhem that goes down on these shows. First year lawyers work there assses off and Craig isn’t going to give up his SC paycheck to work 18 hour days behind a desk. It’s why so many of them start their own businesses. Chelsea’s job is perfect. She sets her own schedule & can raise her prices with demand. And, it seems like she gets all sorts of great information! Austen better “get on it” with his beer. His 15 minutes may be over before he gets that business going. Trust fund or not, I find a man without any sort of ambition (Shep) to be unattractive. Craig needs to do the pro bono work to keep active in the field as he may want a real job after SC.
They need to give Danni a peach or an apple or a beer or whatever they do in Charleston to be a regular crew member. I missed her at the reunion. She brought it this year.
Yes! I love Dani so much more than Naomi, she was such a great friend to Kathryn this season and i sort of love when she told Ashley to slow her role and called her out.
I love the way Dani has consistently handled situations in what has proven to be just the right way. It’s impressive.
Totally agree! Let Dani come on full time! Dani is vibrant and brings it and is a wonderful human being as well! Imagine what she would have said to Ashley last night.
I commented on last week’s recap about hoping to see Danni at the reunion because she had a lot to offer this season. She is also very knowledgeable about wines & whiskey & bourbon’s? So it was suggested during the JD pushing his bourbon episodes. Plus, she is an extremely talented artist. She has a website with her paintings, etc. Awesome stuff. I would like to see her art showcased and just see more about that avenue in her life.
In addition, during the ‘fuskie island blowout, Danni got right up in Thomas’s and Ashley’s faces, which shickled the tit out of me.
I say bring on more of this Season’s Danni.
bahahaha! “shickeled the tit out of me” LOVE it!
If Danni were a full-time cast member she would earn enough money to live from her “day job” and plenty of time to create her art and a good platform to promote it. And she would not be a gratuitous “onnected” member — she is interesting, loyal, and intelligent.
I think that the other cast members could say more about Danni’s art work, too.
Remember the lack luster painting Shep’s old gf brought to the roller skating party?
Shep on a horse holding his surfboard. Not very impressive, but he made a big deal about it. In the same note, he was dating Danni for how long? Never mentioned how gifted she is. Not once that I recall.
Then, Danni brought a beautiful art piece of Cam’s baby to the massage gathering this season and it was glanced over, with a thank you, but no real camera grab so we, the viewers, could admire it.
If I were Danni I would feel slighted.
Her artwork is beautiful! And Southern Charm would be a wonderful way for her to showcase it!
I believe that another reason to love Danni is that she has rejected the opportunity to be on the show full time – I read an article where she said that she resigned from her position in the Wine & Beveridge industry to work on her art full time & is making a good living – Danni said she stayed on the show to support Kathryn & is not interested in being a full time reality star.
LOVE, love this girl
i know realize i haven’t live before “shickeled the tit outta me”
100% love Danni!
Thanks TT for tying all the things that you have told us, into the final results. I hate liars, and you caught everyone of hers, lol.
Can’t wait till it’s updated to watch.
Chelsea’s laser focus while listening to Ashley’s bullshat…..I LOVED it! I wish I knew what she knows!
All this Ashley stuff is no joke. She is a very disturbed women and obsessed with Kathryn IMO. Kathryn and her children need a restraining order (or hope one has been in place) to keep her away. Glad to see Kathryn become the mama bear that she needs to be. I wish her and the kids health and happiness.
We saw the lawyer in Craig last night. He was so focused on everything Ashley said. He has a bright future ahead of him.
I haven’t been able to watch the 2nd part of the Reunion yet. Hopefully tonight. Awhile ago I asked the commentators here if I should invest in SC and watch from the beginning. I am glad I took their advice, because I enjoyed it immensely. It reminded me of how much I enjoyed BH & NY when they started.
Half the fun of watching reality shows is snarking on the cast, but, for me there is no joy in watching someone that is psychologically unwell. Ashley can claim she is happy, content, and secure all she wants- her gaunt appearance and bizarre comments speak volumes to her not being of sound mind. Shame on the show runners.
Loved Craig during this part of the reunion.
Found it interesting seeing a video of Kathryn & Craig playing Truth or Dare,
Kathryn was asked “marry, date, or ditch” Shep, Craig, Austin?
Kat: “marry Craig, date Austin, ditch Shep”
“Why would you marry Craig”
Kat: “Because he’s a nice person. A Good person.”
Craig sitting by her smiling that million dollar smile.
Damn, he’s sweetie pie.
I like the interaction between Carig and Kathryn too – any time he’s talking about the way he reacts to things, and his future plans, or lack thereof, she looks at him and has such a sweet smile on her face. She’s just about the only one there who gets him. Shep is a joke. So very full of himself and his perceived love life, but that will dwindle away as he gets older and he’ll end up just like TRav – a pathetic old man. That’s probably what Kathryn sees in him and why she chose him as the one she’d ditch.
Totally agree, Tamara! She’s full of shit and faking naivete and “blaming” herself to look like the victim and garner sympathy. Thomas is awful but she’s no innocent victim of his. She knows exactly what she’s doing with these comments. She’s setting it up to be able to play the gaslight, psychologically abused victim. It’s total horseshit.
I would think you were absolutely right if it weren’t for her weight. There’s something wrong with her, mentally and physically if she’s let herself get that thin.
She’s beyond obsessed and on drugs, hence the weight loss.
There is NOTHING genuine about Ashley. I don’t even think she knows what her own “humor,” personality is. She’s not well. Did others notice her before and after she went on stage? She is playing some role she has dreamed up in her delusional head. She thinks she has her hands on the golden ticket, and is hell bent on saying and doing whatever to whoever to secure her role as Mrs. Ravenel. DAMN! The bitch must be worn out mentally from keeping up with all of the social media trolling, from trying to dress like Melania, from all the fakeness…her laugh is like nails on a damn chalk board.
Outside of Ashley, I truly liked the group of cast on the stage without Thomas. They had a kind of VPR vibe. A mishmash of young adults…some have their shit together, some still trying to figure it out. I’m just beyond OVER Ol’ T-Rav and JD trying to party, screw, and mesh with the younger crowd. Thomas isn’t old enough to infuse words of wisdom, or guidance like Patricia, and not young enough to blend with this group. He’s just a creepy old fart.
Dammit!!!….trying to decide whether or not to rewatch that shit-show. posts about Ashley’s hairy pits has me curious…all I noticed was a big ole artery cause she is so skeletal….I guess I will fast-forward I don’t think I can listen to her crap again.
I realize I’m late to the game with my comment-first ever but just rewatched the reunion and I’m bursting at the seams. If Ashley keeps harping on and on about Kathryn’s past and causing her to lose her children, then why does Thomas get a pass for going to prison for drugs? I wish Andy had brought this up. Ashley was so laser -focused on Kathryn’s past and that’s all she had to go by. First of all , it’s a pathetic excuse. The only difference between Kathryn and Thomas is that Kathryn has worked a phenomenal program and has become a beautiful, wise , fantastic young lady and mother. What has Thomas become? A misogynist, narcissistic pig. Oh wait, he always was one! Good riddance to them both!
I know everyone thought she was crazy when she said they would get married, BUT if she did, she wouldn’t be forced to testify against him, if S.C. has the privilege. I wouldn’t be surprised if they did get married!
How the hell is she going to be called to testify on at a rape trial for an incident that occurred before she ever knew him. I highly doubt he speaks to her openly about any sexual assaults of other women.
Character witness.
Plus, remember the comment from Chelsea’s customer that Thomas said she would send him back to prison…what’s that all about? I didn’t think she explained that very well.
ROFLMAO. You really think any attorney on the planet would put up ASHLEY JACOBS as a character witness for anyone? She’d be eviscerated by the prosecution. Clearly she has ZERO judgement.
If Thomas goes on trial for rape, I’m going to be sitting in court all day every day.
The prosecution is the one that would call her! It’s obvious Thomas wouldn’t want her on the stand.
I don’t think you get what spousal privilege means. It doesn’t mean the CAN’T testify, it means they don’t have to. So it is irrelevant if she wants to in your scenario.
TT, you would be the best court reporter ever!
Tamara, If Ashley were to contact the DA or the women’s attorneys claiming she had information regarding the alleged assaults, she would likely be subpoenaed for a deposition. Then the attorneys would get to argue over whether her testimony would be relevant and admissible in the court.
Exactly my point!
Again, how the hell do you think Ashley would have any information on the assaults? Do you think that she and Thomas lay around at night and he regales her with stories about raping people?
Ashley has something on Thomas but it has nothing to do with the current charges.
She probably had access to his phone or email at some point. Who knows!
So he’s texting about raping people? Whatever happened to common sense?
Lol, does Thomas have common sense? He may have emailed someone like a crisis manager or even the Nanny herself. Who knows what he could have said or done while drunk or on whatever! We don’t know, but I’m guessing he doesn’t have the best judgement since you warned him about her, and he still went for it.
Tamara you may need to double check the legal guidines for spousal testimony. A spouse is defined by marriage and a good D.A. can argue grounds the marriage happened to invoke the ruling a spouse can not testify.
It’s exhausting to keep explaining spousal privilege. SPOUSES CAN AND DO TESTIFY AGAINST THEIR SPOUSE. Spousal privilege just means they can’t be forced to in many cases. People always think it means a spouse can’t testify against a spouse. They absolutely can.
You keep missing a key point, it only applies to married spouses. It does not cover live one, engaged couples et al. You can explain away but that privilege still lies in the sanctity of formal marriage.
Even the other idiot I am arguing with knows that spousal privilege refers to married couples. I’m not sure why you are rushing in to state the obvious.
Hmmm because as spousal privilege has even come up and the person in question is not married to well anyone then it would lead one to believe that they do not. This point, if brought up, is not visible in the comment thread. The show aired Thursday night and it is Sat and I am playing catch up on all as you provide entertainment on a public platform with paying advertisers I shall be as late as I please. Your comment section is open and I am not in violaction.
I could totally see that scenario.
The one in which T & A giggle over rape stories.
i truly believe ashley has a lot on TR – tapes, drug use, etc… and that’s why he’s staying w/this psycho!!! Both of them need serious random drug/alcohol testing! Ashleys, crazed, psycho behavior and extreme weight loss indicate she’s doing way more than just alcohol. hopefully KD can get a protective order to keep Ashley away from her children.
? why wasn’t whitney at reunion?? pat should be apoligizing to KD for her horrid behavior toward her the past few years instead of the other way around! it’s KD who makes her son’s show! without her, the show would have been cancelled.
Shep seems to take great pleasure in commenting and bashing Craig at every opportunity. he’s no better – just way older! hopefully Craig will get his act together. being on the show and having the income from it, in my opinion, is preventing him from realizing his potential and really getting on with his life. i also question why KD and Shep feel the need to discuss their hookups and number of times!
KD is georgeous and did not need the implants! was not a fan of her pagent like gown on the reunion! she’s usually much better dressed! her composure and grace this season has been amazing! so happy she has everyone’s support and wish her the best (possibly full custody)!
Now that we have fawned over Kathryn for a million comments, I’d like to say I am also not a fan of the new boobs, however, that is her prerogative and if she likes them that’s great. But she was constantly falling out of that dress and having to shove them back in the dress.
Some troll on Twitter came at her hard about it and asked her why she thought it was a good idea to be on TV with her boobs falling out (I can’t really remember the exact question) and she responded with…..
Wait for it…..
“Because I’m a shameless strumpet!”
Best.Comeback.EVER.
Best recap you’ve ever done, TT. I have to be snarky here and say I had a good laugh when she said she was objectified by men while her boobs are falling out. LOL
Up there for sure! Love your recaps TT! Thank you!
I’m not a fan of the boobalish tops, I do think they belong to the little bitty titty club and then they look cool. But there’s a bit of a phenomena that happens after a lift and or augmentation. It’s really hard not to want to show the girls off! She’s young, new and improved…maybe she had an (ulterior) motive too? I believe she hit her target audience with that dress.
I forgot to add, I love her response! Yay!
I finally got to watch the whole episode and have to say, ever time I see her Ashley freaks me out anew lol. There’s something so empty about her, like she’s cobbled together this character “Ashley” that is empty of any actual content. This character is just a vehicle to satisfy whatever empty hungry hole the real person locked up in there is longing for. Well you ain’t gunna find it being the villain on reality tv hunni.
So much anger this season. I couldn’t believe Naomi got just as extremely pissed with Craig all this time later. I know they’re in their 20s but Naomi’s anger is more like rage. Just this black volcanic rage that seems overreaction? If it’s hysterical, it’s historical.
Craig doesn’t seem to want to be a lawyer. kGood for him. Lawyering is a career path of least resistance for people for smart people who don’t know what else to do. Or whose parents won’t support them being something else regarded as less prestigious. In my opinion.
And as for Shep, 4 “girls” a week is what he acknowledged, i”d bet it’s more than that lol.
Regarding the incident with Thomas and Ashley sneaking into the bathroom at Shep’s, I question why Bravo did not air what went on in that room… physical relations or what I suspect was use of an illegal substance.
So exactly where is all of this ‘vindication’ we were promised was coming at the reunion by AJ???? Or was that just another manic fueled delusion she convinced herself of? Her behavior is absolutely vile. And the fact that she still doesn’t regret any of it is very telling if her true persona. It’s harder and harder for her to keep it together and keep it concealed. Gaslighting narcissists can only keep the charade up for so long before the entire facade begins to fall apart.
With ravenal anger and 10 percent not him, I hope katherine is not alone with him any more. After seeing it with Chelsea (the anger) he’s worrisome also. There are just too many of these “domestic ” story’s in the news
I think that excusing Ashley’s behavior by comparing it to Kathryn’s in the earlier seasons is a ridiculous argument . Kathryn was a 20 year old girl and Ashley is 33?
My heart goes out to Kathryn and her family. I have a 20 year old daughter and if a man in his 50’s got her pregnant not once but twice and stuck her in a basement on some ranch because he was running for office I would be livid! Then he manipulates and gas lights her and won’t commit. Then he takes her to court and demands a drug test although it seems he parties every night of the week and takes her children away from her. Then he seems to be in total control of the court and uses drug testing to harass and punish her. It really sounded like Ashley was behind the drug test that was discussed at the reunion. Why did she know the exact time that Kathryn showed up at the testing facility? Poor Kathryn must be sick every time she has to hand her children over to these people. I hope Thomas gets put in prison so Kathryn can get her kids back full time! And that horrible psychopath goes back to CA!
This story makes me sad because I feel like this man has used and abused this girl and he still is.