My episode guide said it was Ramona Singer and Willie Geist on this episode but they actually had Dorinda instead. Why would Ramona miss a WWHL episode, she loves the attention so much? She was doing press yesterday with Dorinda and Tinsley. This is weird.
Right off the top Andy’s writers take a jab at Dorinda for attacking Sonja and you can hear Dorinda sort of moan in the background. If they take actual viewer questions, this will not end well for Dorinda.
Holy Hell! What is she wearing??? And did she get a boob job?
Either I had too much rosé last night or I was busy trying to pound out my recap and get back to Big Brother because I do not remember this bush braiding discussion. At all. So it was probably both. I do remember a drunken phone call to one of my favorite people last night. I called to check on her and then just unloaded a bunch of my personal shit on her. Because, lousy friend. Anyway, I digress. Again.
Is this show taped? They seem to be talking about the episode before last. Sonja tries to soften her stance on the family crest while the audience votes saying 80% of them are on Sonja’s side. Dorinda is shocked but then says again her daughter has a crest, Sonja does not. FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD, she put a deer on her shoe line and Dorinda continues to attack her for it. What is Dorinda’s problem? Even if she does think it is some sort of abomination, can she not just keep her opinion to herself and congratulate her on her shoe line? She doesn’t tell Bethenny that her Skinny Margaritas tasted like shit. Just BE NICE.
Finally they show things from tonight’s episode where Dorinda and Bethenny hug it out. Dorinda says they are never allowed to get involved with any of Bethenny’s arguments but she wants to get involved with all of theirs. First of all her language is very US versus Bethenny. Secondly, all of these bitches get involved with all of the arguments. The next poll is whose side are you on Dorinda or Sonja and the audiences speaks loudly by choosing Sonja by 71 percent! Dorinda is not used to losing in polls and is once again shocked. I could not understand what she said and most of it was bleeped maybe? Dorinda is finally figuring out that drunk Dorinda isn’t funny anymore.
When Dorinda is asked what we all want to know about why Carole and Bethenny are no longer friends anymore, she pretends like she doesn’t know but then says Carole was blindsided. So Andy follows up to say, “What what she blindsided by?” like any good interviewer would. Oh wait. No he doesn’t. Because, Andy.
A caller asks what she thinks about Bethenny unfollowing everyone except Sonja on Instagram. Dorinda says, “Who cares?” Wait, she unfollowed Luann? Is this true? How do people know when someone unfollows people? I mean who keeps up with this shit? If you are one of those people you need to be emailing me the news! I love my finders who keep me updated on the Internet via email because I am not able to read other sites anymore. I have one person who keeps an eye on EVERYTHING and this blog would not function without their emails. So help me out and send breaking news to tamaratattles on the ole gmail!
Dorinda says she doesn’t think Ramona was at fault for posting the photo. If Lu had just told them not to post anything no one would have. They honestly didn’t get the implications. Dorinda said, “Thank God it wasn’t me.” I actually agree with Dorinda on this post. The real deal was that Lu didn’t want people to know she did a 21 day treatment instead of 28 days.
In Breaking News, Lu called in sick and cancelled a Caberet show last night in NYC. Perhaps she was jetlagged from the cross country flight but she was posting Instastories about make eggs with caviar for breakfast. Also Page Six said that Luann was drunk and belligerent at her San Francisco Pride Parade appearance.I didn’t report on that because Page Six has got in the toilet and is about as credible as the site that rhymes with my gaydar works fine these days. But we may need to keep an eye on her. It’s not like her to cancel a show.
Dorinda cracks a joke about the huge coverage of Lu’s arrest that was covered by BBC, “Maybe I should get arrested!” I have a feeling that is not out of the realm of possibility, Dorinda. Rumor has it she is on the cocaine diet, Allegedly.
Kandi Koated Nights is the show we never knew we needed until now. Erika Jayne is a guest so I hope she asks better questions than Andy and blows his ratings out of the water. WE MUST MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
My eye still can’t focus on this sequined dress but for some reason I am starting to like it as the show goes on. It’s kind of mesmerizing.
Willie say Biden might run. I might vote for him but I really want a young female candidate at this point. I have been going to the polls and voting for women since the last election. I am so tired of a bunch of old white men running this country. And this is a new viewpoint for me because I’ve never really supported female candidates before but some things have got to change and our politicians need to better represent the entire country, Sorry for the political rant.
Dorinda says she doesn’t really speak to Tom but she runs into him all the time. He’s always at The Regency or Omar’s.
The game is a montage of drunk housewives mostly of Dorinda. Dorinda seems nonplussed by the whole thing. I drink way too much and if I was sitting in a chair in a disco dress while everyone laughed at my drunken slurring, I’d be mortified.
Dorinda says she has lost weight by working out with a trainer and stopping drinking. Yet she is drinking tonight. #Shotski
On the aftershow we learn that Dorinda takes a nap every day at four pm in her bed in her pajamas with Dr. Phil on the TV. Andy says he sometimes naps in Dorinda’s honor,
Dorinda says that she and Bethenny haven’t spoken since filming. She says it is because Bethenny blocked her.
I called in and my question was “Does Dorinda think the wrong housewife went to rehab” and the screeners said No, not a question they would use. They asked if I had another question and I said sure I would like to ask Dorinda if she thinks she has a drinking problem and they canned that question too. WTF? So the whole question thinkg of WWHL is basically ONLY questions they want to approve?
I called in years ago and tried to ask a question to which they replied no.
They then actually fed me a different question to ask, put me on hold to “practice”, came back with yet another different question, placed me on hold again and I hung up. I think you need to ask a PC question to get through and then ask your original question once you go “live”
My friend and I were drunk once and she called to ask Bethenny how promoting and perpetuating beauty standards such as skinniness aligned with her values of female empowerment. Hard no.
I believe LuAnne mentioned that she hasn’t given up drinking or is just not drinking right now. Something along those lines.
I don’t think she is an alcoholic per se but I think she went through a pretty bad time over the Christmas and New Years Holidays and was drinking heavy at the time.
Maybe Dorinda’s fame is going to her head?
That’s strange Bethenny blocked everyone except Sonja! It doesn’t sound like she’ll be returning next season.
She will for sure the other ladies besides Sonja and lu…need to go
Dorinda is a little off this season. More like the beginning stages of becoming bat shit crazy. She has gone really wacky over Sonja’s use of the Morgan family’s crest. If the Morgans are not getting their panties in a knot, why does she cares so much? I smell the stench of jealousy. The belligerent drunk is not a good look for anyone. I hope she figure it out and fast, before she tanks.
Dorinda is getting on my nerves. Her head has gotten far to big.
All the women are just as bitchy as Bethenny.
I agree.
I also smell that stench. It seems that Dorinda has always thought that she “is all that” when she is not really all that. And anyone who somehow threatens that Alplha sense – she will go after. I did not yet see this WWHL, but I am sure Dorinda was shocked at losing any polls. She will likely work very hard now to retool her game.
She was shocked that the polls were not in her favor. She appears to be a little ticked, actually. I am with you. I bet she is strategically thinking of ways to get back in fans favorite spot. Drunk ?Dorinda’s head has gotten just too damn big. She so full of herself.
i feel the whole crest argument is about Sonja living in the past. When the argument was over, Dorinda was praising Sonja for living in the present. I don’t have a problem with the crest, but I feel Sonja’s obsession with her past life and being a Morgan would be annoying to deal with in real life. it may be Dorinda’s last straw. You are not part of that family so don’t use the crest. Instead, embroider Sonja’s signature with the sexy J
I changed my mind I re-watched. She later refers to the dead husband vs. ex-husband thing. It’s really about that. She has more ranking in the mourning of death in her own mind. She does talk about Richard as much as Sonja talks about Mr. Morgan. But Sonja gets way more sympathy than her.
I don’t think Dorinda is jealous of Sonja. I think she hates her, and is letting her disdain take over. It’s ugly. She needs to figure out a way to get to a place of acceptance with her if she’s going to continue to do the show.
I have a question? Is Andy actual friends with Carole vs you’re rich now-you can be my friend Bethenny?
He has said numerous times on his radio show that he is friends with both – that Carole was his friend before the HW and Bethenny became more of his friend after she left the show and they were going to a lot of the same gatherings, etc. (Like I think B and C are some of the few housewives if not the only housewives that have been to his apartment). He has said that it feels a little awkward, but because of the show he is staying out of it unless it is reunion time, and that they are giving him the space to remain neutral by not telling him the details.
I think that is why he didn’t do a follow up question.
The million dollar question, If Andy had to choose between B or C who do you think he would pick?
I think Bethenny as he will go with public opinion and who gets his shows more publicity. On the other hand, I think in his heart he likes Carole more. There is a softness to how he treats her. There are times with B where I can see the anger and dislike in his eyes. At least that’s my perception.
I don’t think Andy gives two shits about either one. And the whole who has been to Andy’s house rumors I think are false.
I hope Dorinda gets her act together. I don’t want to lose her!!!! However I had to agree with the audience voting last night. She is truly not making sense and not looking good. If that was me that shady Andy Cohen showed footage of being so drunk I would have burst into tears and run off the stage. How humiliating. She seemed rather tense to me.
I think she AND Bethany are going through some stressful stuff because they are both kind of acting out this season. Like Team Sonja and Team Carol each has a sharp tongued, big hearted, crazy woman on their teams.
These ladies are getting really bad….old, nasty, drunk!!! I only watch for Bethenny!!
Since when does a deer equate with a crest? Even if it’s an animal that is part of the crest, Dorinda is out of line. Tons of slippers etc. have animals on them. Her distain of Sonja is shining through.
Amen re “old white guys running the country”. Enough already.
When I was watching Dorinda last night I thought of what Shep said about Ashley. That she had a case of misplaced confidence regarding her treatment of others. It seems as though Dorinda is taking shots at folks for the fun of being mean. Like Ramona, who makes me nuts. No one likes a meanie, and yes, I would have been mortified if the game of the evening was rating exactly how drunk I was on numerous occasions on national TV. I think that Dorinda perceives her behavior as funny, but most of us are rolling our eyes. Hope that Lu is on track with her lifestyle. She has made great strides in the past months.
Dorinda used to (maybe she still does) sell random items with her catch phrases on them. Half the time when she’s on my TV I’m sat wondering if she’s really an out and out bitch and the other half I think she’s trying to find her next LOL moment so she can sell more tat. I think she thinks her Slurinda persona is hilarious. Legendary? More like legs and dairy 🙄🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Dorinda looks so pretty! Her boobs look fabulous!!
If anyone should go it should be Ramona. She is a terrible person. And also has no story line anymore.
Being a terrible person is her story line. I can’t imagine asking for an invite to Tom’s party. Imagine if someone tried to get into Mario’s party. Her bizarre self-serving actions are horrible to live thru but are fascinating to watch. She is a living train wreck.
I believe that the guesses most of us had on Blind Item were correct. And I am going to trust that the info is accurate. If that is correct, then Dorinda has good reasons to be mad at Sonja. The other stuff, UNLESS THERE IS MAJOR SHIT WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT IS BULLSHIT. On this site alone, I have seen people who have major health issues, have friends and family with hospice care, etc. These are REAL PROBLEMS. These spoiled, entitled women need to grow the fuck up. Boohoo, Bethany said something negative about my boyfriend. ETC. Bullhit.
About the cocaine … Dorinda never exhibited any of the telltale signs: jaw clenching, weird mouth movements due to dry mouth, excessive sweating, among others. It does allow you to drink more, in the case of one “anonymous” poster COPIOUS AMOUNTS. Also, Lu’s detox. Neither 21 nor 28 days is enough for MOST people to quit drugs/drinking. The physical dependency is the EASIEST part of addiction. And as for any HW being an alcoholic or having a drinking problem just ask: Has your drinking caused any problems? Bingo!
Re: Dorinda. Please explain her odd slurring while “just being drunk”. In NY society, you shouldn’t mention the use/abuse of recreational drugs. Sonja outed, Dorinda denied, Bethanny shut it down, while at the same time giving us the nod that coke is alive and well in this crowd. Ive commented ad nauseum on this site about the use of prescription drugs and booze- I just figured most knew what coke and booze looked like. We dont get to see the “drymouth excessive sweating that you suggest. We get to see the zero to one thousand, the irrational behavior, and the outlandish statements. That’s not alcohol alone- that’s a line and whatever else…
And John is always sweaty
Great commentary, TT. And tonight, Ramona and Melissa on Lip Sync Battle. Must see the tv
Ramona Singer and Melissa Gorga are competing on Lip Sync Battle tonite. It looks AMAZING. Because…Ramona.
Lol. Ramona dancing is like Elaine on Seinfeld! It’s EVERYTHING!
Yes!! The Elaine dance while singing “my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard”. I thought I saw her in her Halloween Britney outfit too…can’t wait!
I get that all of this 60% scripted, 30% acting, and 10% real… I’m not a fan of Bethenny anymore, but this takedown move by Carole and everyone else seems a little far-fetched… If it weren’t for Lu’s arrest, I’d say this entire season is a complete bust… Lu is carrying this season without a doubt…
I can say I liked Dorinda at first! As time has gone on she seems angry , jealous etc. then booze !
As others have said, Dorinda acted surprised with the poll results like her ridiculous attack on Sonja made sense. As lon as she’s with partner John, she will continue being the same. And I thought Carole was very nice going to Luann’s room. Classy, which clearly she NEVER would’ve done had she still been BFFs with B. What do you all think is behind clearly Carole wanting to back off their friendship? It seems B is hard to take long term, knows she went too far, and then tries to make it up when she’s getting ditched. I loved Carole saying she was shopping engagement rings 2 weeks after dating Dennis.
I hope Lu isn’t drinking a lot again, although she used to be a happy drunk. I can’t wait for the rest of the season, and I feel bad for them on that boat trip in South America. Eesh.
I agree with Dorinda as well about the photo posting. Luann should have asked everyone to not mention her on social media and not to post pics. That would have taken 2 seconds and crisis averted. And as Ramona reminded everyone in her confessional – Luann started dating, sleeping with Tom while he was dating both Ramona and Sonja. Luann needs a bit more reflective meditation and yoga. 😉
I think there is still something we don’t know about why Dorinda is so hostile towards Sonja. It’s not just that she lives in the past and still thinks she has a house in St Tropez.
I think it has a lot to do with Sonja selling stories to the press. It would make me crazy to have someone making up stuff and blabbing it out to Page Six for a few extra dollars.
Where to begin? Where to begin? Okay, Dorinda the drunken mess needs rehab more than anyone else on the housewives franchise. She embarrassed B the night before going to PR, she slurs and then acts like she did nothing wrong the next morning. She is jealous of B as Dorinda does nothing on her own and B is now actually doing stuff with her $ for other people. What has D done on her own? She married a guy and he died and she has a daughter from the first or second marriage. That’s it. My 17 year old cat has done more than her. She acts like she knows everything, she constantly throws the “I buried my husband” in anyone’s face. Listen, I am SURE many of us on this sight have buried either a husband/wife/mother/father/sister/brother/child/friend and it just isn’t appropriate to bring it up anytime anyone, like Sonja, mentions the heartache and pain at “losing” someone. Now… can I discuss that hair? Dear God in Heaven. It’s bleached beyond comprehension and looks like one of the old stuffed animals one of my cats play with on a daily basis. She is a horrible example of a woman to her daughter, she dresses horribly (I can’t even with that eye-test dress last night), and she is a bad friend. I hope she gets hung out to dry at the reunion. And her shock at losing the polls last night was great. Good for everyone for seeing what a witch she really is – week after week.
Preach 🙂
I hope Luann is doing ok. I came to a point where my drinking was out of control and I went the psychiatric route rather than the AA, kumbaya, group therapy one. My psychiatrist was a world renown expert in addiction who employs mindfulness rather than escapist meditation or yoga etc. I examine my cravings rather than pretending I am on a tropical beach with Lenny Kravitz.
He was very anti AA and said the idea of forever labelling yourself (Hi – my name is… and I’m an alcoholic) was inherently damaging. I know AA has almost a deified status in the US, but there are other paths to where you can return to being a responsible drinker.
Personally, I choose to abstain, and have done for over 5 years, however if I chose to have a nice red tomorrow, I would not feel like a failure. It would not negate the last 5 years and I am cool with that. I hope this is the case for Lu.
Sorry for the rant.
I have personally felt that there are different kinds of addictions – emotional and physical.
My cousin has more than 20 years of sobriety under his belt – in terms of drugs and alcohol.
However, there are times he still exhibits addictive behaviors – collecting something, hyperactivity, obsessing over an activity that is more “legit” (exercising, etc.). He’s had to “check” himself or have his sober friends (those who also work an AA type similar program.
So, I think LuAnn was using the drugs as an emotional crutch during an emotional time that would eventually pass (not masking an underlying pathology or mental health issue)
When a person stops drinking but does not get to the root of what caused it and still exhibits the dysfunctional behaviors, it is called a “dry drunk.”
I agree wholeheartedly. There is more than one model for overcoming addictions. I will go out on a limb here and recommend a book that changed my life. “The Serenity Principle” by Joe V. Bailey. It is short and an easy read, not some ponderous tome. Do not be put off by a few MENTIONS of Science of the Mind. It is NOT Scientology and when he talks about it, it is not proselytizing. It is neither a cult, nor a religion and I mention it only because i didn’t want you to think it was like Scientology.
Oh, is Dorinda ever my drunk mother! Drunk and mean. I can tell you that Dorinda’s daughter feels nothing but scalding shame over her mother’s behavior. And Dorinda’s antics are on TV for the world to see! I only had to drag my mom out of bars and suffer through horrible family holidays. There weren’t snark sites about my mother! I pray for Dorinda’s daughter, and for Lu’s kids. It’s a tough life for kids of alcoholic parents, no matter how much money you have. Nothing like telling Grandma she’s not allowed to be with your kids unsupervised. Or having kind neighbors call you to tell you your mother is drunk and has fallen in the street on her way home from the liquor store and is a bloody mess and probably needs X-rays. I hope Dorinda and Lu get sober. You don’t want your kids praying for the relief your death will bring.
your post makes me sad…. I hope you are okay x
I adore Dorinda! She may have her vices (pretty sure she indulges on occasion) but for the most part she is just her fun friendly self and of course she makes it nice. Love her dress, it’s perfect for her! If I was skinny and had money she and Lou would be the ones I would want to hang with.
I would have agreed with you until this year – she is a mean drunk, whose anger over her loss and whatever other chip she has on her shoulder comes out under the influence of alcohol. That means the bitterness is always there, but she can hide it under a veneer of sober civility. I think until she checks herself and gives up the booze & addresses her issues, she’ll always have and be a problem.
Dorinda is just revealing true self this season – she clearly believes she is popular enough to get away with being viscous. Clearly the WWH Live polls have given her the check, (or should I say “clip!”) she needs
I’m always surprised that NO ONE mentions that Sonja’s ex is and has been re-married for years, so her behavior about her ex and HIS family is completely inappropriate, whether she has a daughter or not.
Sonja lies and uses people. She has made a lifetime of embellishing her past accomplishments so she can fit into this Morgan world and it’s her identity and she lost it when he divorced her.
Dorinda calling her out is small – and Bethenny …well she is a true narcissist and everyone else has seen through her BS and bullying and so she is attached to Sonja under the guise of protecting her.
No one truly likes Bethenny and she knows it, all her “friends” are paid staff. She keeps Sonja around because Sonja is idolizes her and gives Bethenny her narcissistic supply and none of the other girls do.
Finally, someone else who sees this as I do. I thought I was the only one!
No you’re not the only one. I agree with both of you
Agree with you all
Ivana Trump. She has been married twice since her divorce from Donald, continues to use the Trump name. It is not that unusual and really isn’t any of Dorinda’s business. Sonja identifies as a Morgan through her 10 year marriage and has a child with Morgan. Same goes with Luann she identified and branded as Countess de Lesseps and even though Dorinda disapproves Luann continues to use the last name and stage name Countess.
Dorinda is just a jealous bitch and deeply concerned about Jill Zarin joining the cast. Jill’s widowhood is more recent and viewers had an opportunity to know Bobby. Dorinda seems rather frenzied these days and should take a page from Jill’s Season Three playbook and knock off the constant deriding of others. Sadly, for Dorinda the world was not captivated by Richard Medley. He was a good man and he he died too young. Dorinda is very concerned the attention will be off of her with the return of Jill Zarin.
Bethenny was smart enough to “make up” with Luann, prior to the likely return of Jill, so the only earlier season cast on the outs will be Ramona and if the Bravo gods are thinking clearly they will either demote Ramona or put her in retirement.
Dorinda is becoming Erika Jayne. The cracks are showing.
I agree. And I think when youve had a family with the ex, this is normal to still use their name. It makes it nicer for the child too. The child didnt get divorced, so is gonna be fine with it. Dorinda just wants to act superiour because shes a widow and not a divorcee. Why else should she care enough to mention it to her face? Theres also the pain of rejection, and of regret, that cuts very deep. Dorinda doesnt know how others have suffered, so has no right to compare anothers loss to her own.
Just because her ex has moved on does not mean Sonja has – it would be better for her if she did, but that’s got nothing to do with his new wife. As Sonja’s former friend she’d be well acquainted with her character – and as they have a child together Sonja will always be part of the family no if’s but’s or maybe’s.
None of them are behaving well, including Dorinda she needs to stop playing the “I’ve lost more” card – death, divorce it is all loss and each person’s reaction is individual. Her drunken outbursts don’t suggets she is any more together than Sonja.
Not surprised d would discount Sonja she is a hateful person reaaly who completely discounts a mothers role in her child’s life….well unless said husband is dead then you can use his shi $$$$ way to much credit to dudes in the doormats life.
On Wednesday’s Bravo daily Dish podcast, around the 3 minute mark, they say that Dorinda was with her daughter and came
off the elevator like a bat out of hell and it’s beleived she had been to Andy’s office. I suspect she was not happy about her WWHL appearance! I definitely agree that she will have a hard time dealing with her favored fan position. I couldn’t believe she was so genuinely shocked by those polls. She’s been acting like a total B!tch.
Wonder how much liquid courage she had in her?
LOL……….D you are done, done, done!
If I was Beth I’d block these bitches too! Not sure about why she blocked Lu but could be as simple as she doesn’t want to deal any shit that is going on with the others ‘tweeting’ crap to Lu about Beth. She’s just tired of ALL it!! She has a business to run, a child to raise, and busting her ass with the charity work.
As for keeping in touch with Sonja…. I get it she has taken Sonja under her wing………that is just who she is.
From what I can decipher on my instagram, some of the women follow every TomDickandHarry. That would be Luann, Dorinda, Sonja and Tinsley. They follow everyone from their franchise and many from the other franchises. Others are more selective. Bethenny is currently following Sonja and Tinsley. (She didn’t unfollow everyone from her show as claimed.) Carole is following Dorinda and Tinsley. So it’s not like Bethenny is being anymore snooty than Carole. Weirdly Carole is also following Kim Kardashian West. If you look at Carole’s follows, she a blatant instagram social climber.
I feel like one of the upstream comments reported this, but it might have been one of my finders sending me things. But at some point in the day I read that Two Judgey Girls? said that they saw Dorinda and her daughter coming out of the building where Andy’s office is today pissed and they think she is mad about the polls and the drunken slurs game.
I’m not exactly sure who that is but I think it is a podcast and am not sure why they would be in the building. But it would make me like Dorinda a bit more again if she ripped Andy a new asshole because that would mean she gets that Andy likes the HWs celebrities like, and fuck with the ones they don’t.
On another note I watched the WWHL with the new Queer Guys. I’m not a huge fan of Kamaro or whatever his name is cut me some slack I am still working and drinking rose at 3 am … it’s been a busy week. but he assigned “Housewives to all his counterparts on the show and then said HE is Kenya Moore. because he loves her and Andy had sort of either a look of disgust or a look of oh the black people like Kenya on his face.
Then Kenya posted today she had a new offer. If it doesn’t guarantee her a peach, I do not think she will take it. That is her sticking point. If it were me, I’d love to be a friend of while pregnant because the stress of being on HW ESPECIALLY RHOA is excessive stress and with a high risk pregnancy, I wouldn’t want to risk it or deal with all of that ‘
Kenya’s position is that it is a vast pay cut for the same amount of work. I could broker this deal. Pay her her full season episode pay like they did every damn other pregnant woman and give her the damn meaningless peach, SHE IS A 47 YEAR OLD PREGNANT WOMAN. Y’all need to start applying pressure to Bravo. Do your research find the producers of Truly Original, Make some waves,
I’m team Sonja, Dorinda is a mean, unhappy drunk who attacks everyone I bet Bethenny wishes she brought Lu or Sonja to PR now. I don’t understand why she brought Dorinda
I don’t like Dorinda her behaviour is mean girls and I’m glad B is on sonjas side it’s like we have two teams Sonja, B and Lu then Carole, Tinsley and Dorinda and Ramona 👌🏻