It would seem pretty obvious that production strongly encourages the housewives to drink. You rarely see them at a shoot at a place that does not serve alcohol. Since the ladies don’t pay for their drinks, they rarely turn down the opportunity for a free one. If you have eyes that communicate to a brain, you are aware that production on all reality shows highly encourages drinking. Bethenny Frankel knows this as well. If she needed a refresher Page Six has a detailed story with quotes from several former housewives to acknowledge this already well-known production tactic.
Kelly Bensimon says that Sonja Morgan was blind drunk and they would not let her help her home. She also told Page Six that RHONY basically ruined her life because they made her look crazy and now she is unhire-able. Well, I believe the Sonja part….
Heather Thomson has a similar Sonja Morgan story. When filming at the Saratoga racetrack, Sonja was leaving early and as was falling down drunk dragging her own suitcase to the car and production wanted everyone to go outside to “tell her goodbye” so they could get the footage. She refused. She also said that if that sort of thing happens once or twice it is fine to film, but if it is a frequent thing, they might need to question whether the person is right for the show. Heather also shared that when they go on trips they give their drink requests and their alcohol is in their rooms upon arrival.
An anon RHONY said the same thing happened in Atlantic City, again with Sonja and there was a meeting with some of the cast and production. Bethenny was very vocal in that meeting about Sonja being a legal liability. That’s interesting that Bethenny is chiming it to production about casting. It didn’t seem to matter though because Sonja is still on RHONY and Bethenny is her old friend this season.
Of Course Sonja gave a comment to Page Six, ““I think I’m very funny when I drink. I’m very transparent on the show. For me, with my businesses [including a namesake clothing line], I can show people who I can drink, or that I don’t have to drink. It’s just good to show both sides.” Um do any of you business owners feel the need to show your clients you can drink but you don’t have to?
Gretchen Rossi claims production would make sure their drinks were constantly capped off so they never really knew how much they were drinking and production kept records on what they drank.
In other evidence of production encouraging drinking, Bravo apparently paid for Kim Richards’ rehab. Bravo also tried to get Taylor Armstrong into rehab after she called Kyle drunk out of her mind telling her she was flying off in a private get with some guy. Kyle had her Taylor’s kid with her she was baby sitting for a few hours and Taylor didn’t even seem to mention it or know where her kid was. Taylor refused to go to rehab and taped three more seasons.
But the Page Six Story actually begins with an interview with Aviva Drescher who claims producers would not let her replace water for vodka in a post production makeup scene between her and Ramona and was told she had to drink the vodka. She also said that production told her they would not pay for Mr. Chow at her party but never had an issue with the cost of the liquor.
So I am going to need someone to explain to me why Bethenny felt the need to remind Aviva who go her on the show and then try to make her think what happened to her didn’t happen to her. Bethenny hasn’t responded to Carole’s constant attacks on her lately. Is she taking her anger out on some she perceives as an easy target? Let’s hope this is not the beginning of the full on bitch mode Bethenny returning. She was just in Honduras seemingly comprehending the important things in life. Maybe she was just drunk.
But in 240 words or less Bethenny managed to…
- Remind Aviva she owes her for getting her on the show
- Brag about her own THIRTEEN YEARS in Reality TV
- Call her a liar TWICE
- And tattle to Andy and the kid who runs the BravoTV media
- Oh and look like a complete cunt
Is this a good time to point out Bethenny wasn’t even on during Aviva’s seasons? Remember those were the years where Bethenny was too good for reality TV.
Thoughts? That Page Six story was juicy !
Wait, production tried to get Taylor Armstrong to go to rehab? I can’t quite follow who called whom drunk in that sentence. Kim called Taylor? Or Taylor called Kim?
Sorry updated for clarity. I am hungry and need to go get my burnt potato out of the oven. I’ll look for my recap of that episode in a bit.
Thank you, TT!
SD, I’m sitting here scratching my head wondering the same thing.
I vaguely remember this story but it was Kyle, not Kim who Taylor left her child with? Oh those were dark days!
I love Bethenny but I’m calling BS!
All of her good works are remarkable. The minute she opens her mouth she negates all the hard work she has done, all the people she has helped & makes her look emotionally disabled. I commend her actions but her often loud words speak for themselves. #knowitall She is her own p.r. nightmare.
And for what? She knows what Aviva said is true. Why not go after the entire rest of the former cast members who say the same obvious thing?
She is like a reversible yin & yang. Do something great then immediately does something bad. She inflates herself then deflates herself. Her humanitarian work is something invaluable but her self defeating behavior drives me insane. She could be a force of reckoning if she made the right choices. It’s sad to watch. I do think her heart is in the right place. She has accomplished so much in life yet has no clue how to be a decent humane person. Maybe in time she will. I hope so. Have a great week xo Marc
I agree with what you said and how you said it Marc. Bethenny can be her own worst enemy and on the other hand is truly remarkable in her humanitarian and personal business endeavors. And her mouth/ability to take no prisoners on the battle field is hands down crazy amazing. Aviva actually came back at her with effective quiet diplomacy…go girl!
Me, three. Bethenny has done many great things with building her own business from the bottom up, then giving back to those in need, even when our own government and other charitable organizations were missing in action.
However, none of that gives Bethenny an excuse to attack other people like this. Why is she going so hard on Aviva, who isn’t on RHONY any more and probably won’t be coming back any time soon? And why is she so vociferously denying one of the worst kept dirty little secrets about Bravo reality shows (as in, the alcohol)?
Exactly atdleft. This is not news to anyone who’s watched a HW franchise in the last 10 years!
IMHO, Bethenny achieved c**nt status a long time ago.
You guys are one fickle group of hoes. Carole has been getting decimated over her falling out with B, and is constantly falling short with the “what have YOU done for charity?” comparisons. I’ve been screaming from the trenches that her (impactful) charity work doesn’t negate the fact that she’s probably super difficult to be around and is a major cunt.5
B shoots out one tweet about Avivia and suddenly she is the antichrist again – HELLOOO, THIS IS THE EVERY DAY HER. PEOPLE DONT LIKE TO BE AROUND HER FOR A REASON.
always liked b, especially in the early days when she was poor. always a quick wit. now she still has her
quick wit; but w/malice in it. i think she is a damaged soul. show some humble pie, or she will end up like
her mom, to her daughter.
plz read commenting rulz. j. Is yr sft ky broken>
Lulz bbz. U gd hun? X
Aviva needs to stfu and stop trying to reset her fifteen minutes.
If the drinking was so horrible and she was so offended by the way Bravo did or did not do things then she should have quit after her first seasons. She not only stuck around for two seasons, but would be back in a heartbeat if they would have her whiney ass.
I actually stopped recapping RHONY mid season because of comments like this.
Whattt?? I was no Aviva fan, but she doesn’t have the right to state an opinion based upon her own experiences?? If it was so bad she should have just quit?? Is this what you think should have happened to all the actresses who spoke up against H Weinstein? Just quit if you can’t take it??
This was in response to JrLeaguer, not TT, obvi.
@Grace: If you equate RAPE to grown ass, well educated, strong women women being “coerced” into drinking too much by a cable show then you are a moron. This is in response to you, Grace…obvi.
Now I remember who Aviva is- she’s the one who threw her leg! About KimR – she went to rehab 3 times I think – did Bravo pay for all 3? She left one then went to a different one then never returned after attending daughter’s wedding.
Taylor should have gone to rehab, she was broken, and medicating with at least alcohol.
I find the entire thing problematic.
I agree! WHo takes the blame.. the show or the person who should decline a drink?
Agreed. Upon first read I was thinking that capping off the drinks was a continuity thing for filming, but not letting Aviva replace the shot with water is downright abusive. F Bravo. I don’t watch anymore. Your recaps are far more entertaining than the shows themselves.
Idk, but it sounds to me like B is covering Bravo’s derrière.
Doubtful Bravo/HW needs Bethenny to help with a opinion of a housewife. Bethenny just blasted out her thoughts, her experiences with production. Bethenny has the bad habit of speaking out before she stops to think her words through. Like a little kid blurting our family secrets.
Wish Bethenny would get help with this bad habit. There are steps for people to take to fix almost any social bad habit
Damn it, Bethenny, I want to like you and you’ve done truly heroic things for a while now, consistently. And then you do something like this and I want to scream at you WHY CAN’T YOU JUST SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUP!!! Ahem. I keep going back to you mentioning Bethenny having some kind of input when Bravo corporate was discussing the problem of Sonya and drinking. They can say all they want that Bethenny has no say in casting but come ON. She just totally showed her ass yet again. She clearly has some investment or position of influence with them. To deny it is to treat us as though we were as stupid as her ratings-enemy Carol says we, the viewers and readers of blogs, are. Oh Bethenny. We were rooting for you, we were all rooting for you! And now she just makes me so freaking tired. The summation at the end of this post is truly a thing of beauty. Pitch. Fucking. Perfect. Don’t wanna fangirl on TT too hard but that was some damned fine writing. Respect.
I really don’t think Bethenny has any real pull with Bravo. It sounds like what happened was that several housewives spoke to production about Sonja’s drinking. Bethenny said she was a liability. The next thing you know we got that season of Sonja “not drinking.”
Eh..Bethany being a cunt. She goes back and forth. Sonja needs rehab. It’s interesting that bravo paid for Kim’s rehab. I guess they exploited her issues at the expense of upsetting her sister but footing the bill…nice. Taylor was so sweet but had a lot of issues. She did need help. I hope she is fine now. She is married and living in Colorado last I heard with her daughter. I remember lol Kyle’s face in that scene.
Taylor is a fake lying twat. Good riddance.
Well, everybody’s gotta be something’
While drinking may be encouraged, it sounds like a bunch of bitter words from cast-offs. Jill wasn’t drunk, Bethenny isn’t drunk on the show, Kelly B can’t wait to blame everyone else for her issues and never owns a thing, Kyle isn’t drunk on the show nor is Lisa or Erika, or Kandi, or Nene, or Kenya and on and on. Aviva would be back in a heartbeat if they’d have her, which I really hope they don’t. I have no problem with Bethenny checking Aviva, and good for Aviva to check her right back on her experience. But it’s too broad a stroke. No doubt producers love sloppy Dorinda and Sonja, but that’s not all the show is about. All the fired housewives have bad mouthed the show in various ways. Sour grapes, in more ways than one. To me. And they’re grown ass women who can speak up. Talk shows give guests drinks in green room, etc. Bitches need to put on their big girl panties. And apparently they’re mostly all fired rather than leaving on principle if it’s so egregious.
Hmmm. Betheny is in the booze business, and she uses Bravo to help market her product, so her down-playing the negativity of Bravo’s alcohol-centric programming seems logical. But geez, Bethenny, I really want to like you and admire your good works! Yeesh. I’m also worried that Sonja is going to really hurt herself. She’s a lost soul with a problem, and nobody really in her corner to help her.
Sonya really did duck up a better than average life. Then lost most of divorce settlement because of bad business choices.
Tossed it all away with no hopes of ever getting anywhere near that life style again. It must be very difficult to live with herself. Jeeze …
Bethenny needs to put her phone down for awhile and let an assistant handle all of her social media accounts. She doesn’t even have to use an intern with all of her money, she can hire someone who will actually make her look good!
Bethenny is that little kid that said something dirty but funny and you laughed so said kid is now embarrassing you by saying it to the teacher, the minister, and your Aunt Agatha. Her first season with a bunch of out of touch rich and idle women, she was making funny but snarky comments about them. We all LOVED her for it, and Bravo even gave Bethenny her own forum to critique each show. The other women have gotten a little more savvy about showing their idiocy (not much_ and she’s gotten a little worse, so she needs to pull back, but doesn’t. The reason she defends the free booze is that she pushes her products on the show, which includes booze.
Bethenny probably was “that little kid” and for all the negative feedback from her peers she received I’m sure a lot of positive feedback from her “elders and persons in charge or in perceived control.” You’re on to something here DebBrenn…
My question is why bother? Why would she just have to put that tweet out there? If she is the one who got Aviva on the show(fact check please) then she must have some form of friendship with her, therefore why not contact her personally via txt or email? I’ll tell you why, because B believes that everything RHNY begins & ends with her, and once again shows her narcissism and makes it about her. If she is of the platform of being strong and uplifting & supporting women then again why slam Aviva for her account of what happened when she was on & B was not! She always has to make it about her in some magnitude big or small. I have never been a fan from the beginning. When you watch the early seasons she is on you will see she is the same as she is today. She has said some harsh judgments. My point when Dorinda came on she called her a smart cookie, 2 seasons after that she called her the village idiot……riddle me that
Amen on each and every point!
I’ve been trying to figure out which housewife spoke anonymously to page six in Atlantic City. I remember that episode well. The women who went were Sonya, Bethenny LuAnn Dorinda and Heather. They had a big argument in the car before they left. Someone is ratting out B here by letting Sonya know that she shouldn’t trust her. But who?? It has to be LuAnn or Dorinda. Both of these women would have a reason……..
Were’t Bethenny and Sonja in a fight before the trip? I don’t remember why. Didn’t they make up on the bus?
*weren’t
It was cold and raining and Sonya wouldn’t let her guests into her home. I think Heather was biting off Sonyas head about how she had treated them. B got there and told Sonya she would do well to stop saying Gstaad in every sentence Ramona screamed loud that she couldn’t listen to them anymore. Sonya got wasted on that trip. It was bad Dorinda had to help Sonya to bed while Sonya was talking about being in yachts with John Kennedy Jr and Madonna
I think it’s Carole. Especially with the inside info on Bethenny speaking with production. Carole knew everything about B around that time.
This was before Carole. And Carole doesn’t watch the show or pay attention when she’s a cast member. LuAnn is a suspect because she just had all these major issues. Dorinda may be an better guess. She and LuAnn were on Sonya duty that night, plus N straight out called her a drunk. Doubt it’s Ramona she’s into her money and mavening.
Carole was there, she wore the bunny ears n T.
Carol and Avica joined rhny the same season.
Bethenny HAS to say that. Someone could make the leap that the ladies are forced to ingest SkinnyGirl. The whole color palette for RHONY even matches the SkinnyGirl logo.
I always thought the whole idea of plying reality show participants with alcohol was obvious. Especially Shahs – we never see some of them sober.
That’s a good observation. And yes, Shahs is another Bravo show where cast members are regularly shown at their alcohol-tainted worst, particularly Mercedes/MJ and Golnesa/GG. Now that MJ is married and building a better life with Tommy, I hope she’s staying away from the André.
Well I’m glad I’m not the only one that can’t take a shine to it! It genuinely tastes like drinking diluting juice before the water has been added.
Oops, this was added to the wrong comment! My bad 😅😅😅
I remember Bethenny and Sonja were on the outs prior to the cold pick-up in the foyer at Sonja’s… and then there was that weird out in the cold with Ramona situation before their car/bus came…point being Bethenny and Sonja were on the outs prior to the cold foyer.
I’ve helped many a friend to bed over the years. Mostly I am able to handle myself when I could have maybe used a hand or two after I over partaked. I wouldn’t expect it to be a big deal on a girls weekend or fun get away if I lent a hand or visa versa. That said, I wouldn’t want anything captured on film. Not me giving or receiving help. Whole different level when cameras and other people are involved.
Maybe we’re trying to understand something we really can’t?
By tweeting Aviva Bethenny just makes herself look like an ass. She should’ve spoken about her own experience and left others out of it.
Bahahahah, who is B trying to kid?! The entire last season was one big Skinny Girl product placement. I’d call that some encouragement to drink right there – not only for the wives but the viewers too.
Has anyone ever associated Bethenny with Aviva? The whole ‘I got you on the show’ thing isn’t relevant – who cares who recommended her? Who recommended Frankel? Cause she sure as shit didn’t fit right in with the other ladies in her first season.
Side note: Does anyone drink skinny girl in their day to day lives? I get drinking it, if it was an event sponsored by the brand, but I’ve tried the stuff and it’s sweet as hell!
I do not care for the Skinny Girl margarita product at all. It tastes quite artificial to me. If I am going to have a marg I want it fresh. At a local popular liquor store in my area I’ve noticed the product placement for the SG line go from the big splash when it first hit the market prominently displayed on endcap near the entrance of the store to a shelf in the middle to the bottom shelf in the back of the store. That’s just anecdotal but I would not be surprised if the sales for the products are waning. Spiked Seltzers at 100 calories and just 1 or 2 carbs depending on the brand seem to be the low calorie adult beverage of choice these days – at least in my area.
Same here. I remember Skinnygirl drinks making a big splash during the early years (2010-12). But now, I usually find the mixed drinks and the wine either hidden deep in the back shelves of my local grocery store’s liquor section, or marked down on the clearance bin. Maybe next time I find a Skinnygirl wine at Vons, I’ll get it and try it, just to see how it compares to the stuff I normally buy.
In undergrad I worked as a bartender at Avery popular lounge. Skinny girl sent us bottles. We had it on display at the bar for nearly two years and no one ordered it. One night our manager decided it was time to toss them, we all took a shot and it was not good.
I wanted to support Skinny Girl when she first made it big. I was rooting for her. I found it ok, but couldnt catch a buzz. I ended up adding extra tequila and Grand Marnier and gained weight. Back to wine. Lol
I don’t think anyone does anymore. It tastes awful
I used to like the mojito one before I went keto – pop in a slice or two of lime and top with fizzy water, it was pretty tasty.
Taylor did not stay on another 3 seasons after a nanny dropped her child with Kyle..Kyle could of had Kennedy taken away from Taylor .
Taylor was jetting around with her married lawyer and thought her child was with her nanny or something like that.Taylor I believe after that quit and married the guy.
Bethenny has a booze business to protect and Avia making those claims could hinder Bethenny’s product placement.
I believe that Avia is a very straight laced woman and they tried to get her to take a shot to loosen it up
.I totally disagree with pushing any vice on someone who doesn’t partake.I have had alcohol ,drugs tried to be pushed on me and do not blame Avia for not being cool with it.
I am sure production encourages the drinkers to drink but there are many housewives who do not drink or hardly drink at all.
Kelly blaming the show for making her unemployable is the funniest thing I have ever heard. She had a major mental breakdown for the world to see she was/ is not right in the head.
Well for once I am on betthenny’s side. Encouraging excessive drinking is a liability. The delivery leaves something to be desired, as usual.
It makes sense to me that Bethenny would get defensive over any criticism of Bravo’s alcohol “policy” for lack of a better word. B is the center of the universe so any criticism with both Bravo and alcohol in the same sentence she will perceive as a direct criticism of herself.
I think her tweet to Aviva was an example of her control issues. Because B always needs to be in control she cannot understand or empathize with someone who might be on the edge and unable to resist the temptation to take one more drink or maybe, like Aviva admits, afraid to say no to Bravo. I don’t know how she can say with a straight face that Bravo does not encourage the women to drink. It’s ridiculous.
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Bethenny does amazing work with B Strong, but I don’t like how she treats people in RHONY. She also acts as though she’s a Nobel Laureate and earned her income by finding the cure to cancer. She pushes skinny products designed to profit off of women’s insecurities. She should be proud of her success but she really would benefit from being a bit more humble. The B Strong platform is good for her. She should continue to lean in to that.
Though I’m usually careful when I read some gossip being pushed by the tabloids, I believe this. Remember when Vicki and Tamra joked about getting Gretchen “naked wasted” on RHOC Season 4? Production could have stepped in to either tell Vicki and Tamra to knock it off, or encourage Gretchen to wrap it up and get a sober ride home. Instead, they kept filming as Tamra’s son attempted to throw himself on Gretchen!
Moving on to RHONY, I suspect the “anonymous housewife” is Kristen Taekman, as she was on Season 7, when they did the all-cast Atlantic City trip that featured Sonja flying off the rails, five sheets to the wind. That’s when she delivered the drunken monologue that included, “I party all the time with John John and Madonna,” as Dorinda was acting as Sonja’s lady-sitter. At the time, Bethenny regularly voiced concern about Sonja’s drunken antics.
Of course, she isn’t doing so now… But she is accusing Dorinda of being a messy drunk after she (and producers?) set up a cocktail party in Miami where the booze was flowing, only to do a sit-down dinner a little later with even more booze. Yes, Dorinda should have been more careful with her alcohol consumption, but the Page Six story confirms my hunch that Bethenny and RHONY producers kept the booze flowing regardless of their “concern” for Dorinda.
I believe Aviva, and I believe the others who spoke with Page Six for this story. This sounds exactly like the kind of shit Bravo and the production companies would do to get some “Girls Gone Wild” style footage to spice up the season. Bethenny has been around long enough to see it happen, but she’d rather stay in Andy Cohen’s and Bravo’s good graces than risk the consequences of spilling the toxic tea.
Aha, I just sat back, hoping and waiting for you to say something about the story. Again, thanks TT, this was so funny I thought how Aviva and Bethenny are like KNOW IT ALL #1, and KNOW IT ALL #2, lol.
P.s. I love when they talk. This story was really juicy. Seems like the cast is talking more openly about the show and behind the scenes. I wonder why?
Bethenny reminding Aviva she was the reason Aviva was brought onto the show was unnecessary and ridiculous.
As to the other part of the text, since the start of RHONY Bethenny has been pretty consistent in speaking about personal responsibility. She has often called BS on castmates complaining about how the show portrayed them. I imagine Bethenny does very little, if anything at all, that she doesn’t want to do and appears to have little sympathy for those that do. Getting drunk while filming then pointing the finger at someone else is not going to get you any comfort from B. She would have served herself best by keeping her mouth shut, but it’s Bethenny.
Aviva was on a podcast at the end of May and stated she would really like to come back on the show.
My head is swimming with all the names of the prior housewives and thoughts of the flying leg and Kelly Bensimmon and the gummy worms, lol…I can’t keep up! Do I totally believe that the alcohol is provided and encouraged, etc..? Absolutely! I don’t believe any of them are forced to drink, however. Look at some of the other housewife shows, like Atlanta. They aren’t nearly as boozy as New York or the O.C. ladies, so no one is forcing drinks down their throats. Unfortunately, for some of these ladies, the only real compelling part of their story seems to be the way they act when they get trashed. So, maybe drinking is strongly encouraged for those gals…just sayin’…
The best thing about a drunk Sonya is Lu proclaiming herself the ‘snatch guard’. Countess Snatch Guard.
Andy Cohen is such a moron. He’s contacted People to RAIL ON AVIVA. No mention of the fact that several other people said the same thing in the same story.
He said the story was “clickbait for print” and doesn’t seem to comprehend that Page Six earns the majority of their income from their online magazine and their talk show. He also doesn’t understand that click bait is when the title screams some exciting or salacious news to get you to click on the story but when you get there the story doesn’t match the headline.
No mention of the fact that NUMEROUS people had the same story about being told not to assist Sonja to her room or help her out at all as well as attempting to encourage the rest of the cast to witness Sonja so they could film it.
Also Andy says “we are just filming their reality and it’s up to them” when Aviva was talking about a scene filmed AT THE END OF THE SEASON TO MAKE THE STORYLINE COHESIVE when it came to the tequila shot scene they were shooting in the middle of the day.
I do not understand why Andy and Bethenny continue to attack Aviva ALL THESE YEARS LATER and isolate her from the other women who said EVEN WORSE THINGS about the booze flowing so freely on the “sets” of RH shows.
Me, neither. I mean, fellow RHONY alumni Cindy Barshop and Heather Thomson were also quoted on record, yet Andy is focusing his fire on Aviva Drescher? Is he too afraid of blowback from Cindy and Heather, or is there something else going on?
Thanks again, TT, for spilling the real tea.
Every alcoholic is having a good laugh. It’s not their fault. You drove them by a liquor store on the way to help them buy groceries. So they just had to walk back to the liquor store and buy a nip.
Adults do what adults want to do has been my experience. These women are way past 21. If you don’t want a drink, just say no thank you.
We saw UnReal. We know how these shows work to bring out the crazy. 😉
Now that RH has been around so long it’s become a parody of itself; the women are all acting anyway, but the crew obviously uses alcohol as a lubricant for the scenes that make it on air. Every explosive scene on every RH show involves booze.
For Andy and Bethenny to wage war against Aviva for exposing an irrefutable and blatant tactic, makes them Bravo tools and propagators of fake news. What is most insulting is that they think for one minute that we are buying what they are shoveling.
Just because production provides and encourages drinking doesn’t mean they HAVE to get stupid wasted drunk. That is on them.
B is out of her mind for that tweet. Like, why? lol Out of all the things to tweet about, she chose THIS tweet to respond to. I don’t get it.
I think this is absolutely true. I also think that these shows are getting to be dangerous for people who are on them. The lure of the money and fame is so great that they will do and say almost anything to be picked up for next season. Some go to far (Phadera) and are punished, some go to far and nothing happens to them (Teresa). It all depends on what you bring to the bank for them. Production and all of Bravo are legal enablers for all of this behavior. They make sure they are clean (legally) and put their mouth piece, Andy Cohen and it would appear, Bethanny as well, out there to spew the BS.
I think B has done amazing things and I think she has also learned to play the game well. She knows what is at stake here. Her ability to get her merchandise out there AND the ability to run these charities. As wonderful as that is it is coming with a very hefty price tag.
Andy is, will always be a piggy pig.
I think the opposite. I think Pheadra got away with murder but at least Theresa went to jail. You know that did kill her a little. Neither of them has owned up to their sketchiness but Theresa did pay. Phedra not so much.
I meant to attach my comment to yours sundayhare- sorry. But I do agree that Bravo has not in the past given a care to the wellbeing of their employees or “talent”. Perhaps things will change for the better with these conversations.
No, she did pay legally. I am talking in Bravo land. They actually stopped filming until she got out. That was what I was referring to. It’s not just them either. There of course have been others. Believe me I wasn’t picking P or T because in my opinion neither should have a job.
But I agree as well, Bravo doesn’t care in the least about anyone but their ratings and bank accounts.