By Amanda Z.
Let me issue a DISCLAIMER I am 2 bottles of cava In (my mom and my aunts came over this and it became a thing but I digress). Lets start this foolishness
Karen and Ray are having dinner at a white table cloth restaurant. I hear auditors itemizing in the background. Heading a charity is work but that is not a 9 to 5 with overtime Karen let’s be realistic.
Alzheimers is an issue near and dear to me I have lost a grandmother to it. Seeing them not remember your face is heartbreaking, so Karen I get it boo I would cry over my surf and turf too.
Gizelle and Ashley are cool enough to be shopping for jewelry? Anyone remember when Gizelle wouldn’t call Ashley by her given name? it was always Little Girl.
Who is this new chick? As my unwritten rule I will not learn her name until she is in at least 3 episodes. So this is Sherman’s ex boo (to be known as S.E.B going forward until she breaks that 3 episode mark). S.E.B does mention that communication was an issue which we have been Seeing with Gizelle and Shermn.
That was the biggest foreshadowing as we see Gizelle confirm that her and Sherman have broken up. But let’s clarify friends vs acquaintances. Gizelle doesn’t owe you an explanation yall see each other at a gala or fake scent testing party. Yall are not at each other’s homes and picking up each other’s children from school. Pipe down.
Monique is stepping out in her power, or on the strength of her last name and RHOP spot (either description works) to support a charity I am sure she never had any interest in before this night. Robyn I beg you let this go you are having dinner series which mean the ladies can attend at another date Monique will be on stage for all of 5 minutes
Who remembers me calling this? Cherisse always extending her 15 minutes is finding fault with Monique using her rolodex to network in and around Potomac. Now decorum would tell you not to go around Cherisse by inviting her friends to events but Karen is also dead wrong inviting S.E.B when she knows Gizelle is going to be there. Even if you have known her longer she has never been on a guest list until today.
More threads of the Karen Huger I have never had a joint account with my husband lie are coming undone. She has asked the ladies to pay for tickets to her newly incorporated (?) foundation by making checks out to her hair company? But of course Karen of the I have never had a job but taco Bell when I was 15 fame knows the tax laws better than everyone else. So all the ladies will make their checks out to cash and hope for the best.
Candace and her roommate are looking at spaces for her mother to rent out. FYI the Gaylord in the Potomac is gooorrrgeoussss. Hopefully Candace’s mother signs off on this because its so pretty. A floral situation? That sounds like $$$. As the roommate is trying to break that money situation down Candace tunes it right on out. This woman needs a reality check and quickly.
Monique and Chris get a pedicure. I am only talking about it because my Boo likes a pedicure too and I think its adorable when a big ol man sits in that pedicure chair. Let’s hope that Monique’s Not for Lazy Mom’s does not peddle junk science like other sites I see *cough* Goop *cough*
Cute date night for Michael and Ashley. He just wanted to re affirm to her that he is solvent but also that he may not want to have kids. Ashley is happy about the first declaration and not about the latter. Flashbacks do see Michael waffling on kids. Ashley’s ovaries are only getting older and she as a woman who does want to have children wants a clear answer on if her husband is on the same page. I see that Michael’s continued harping on Ashley’s mom’s situation as a diversion tactic and a mean one at that.
Do we know if Karen gave Gizelle a heads up about her guestlist? Oh Heyyyy Carson from the original Queer Eye. Glad to see this is a legit event and not something she has in her kitchen area.
Ok I really am trying to get on the same level as the green eye bandits but they seem like mean girls here. You know Karen knew she wasn’t coming to your event Robyn she was just trying to not have an uncomfortable situation.
So Karen did let Gizelle know about S.E.B but through email. I am side eyeing Karen. You text her any other time but you send an email about this? Now that is something yall should be up in arms about ladies.
Cherisse ok with that young tenderoni on your arm I see you boo. I have nothing bad to say about her in this moment. Plus she clocked Karen as tacky for inviting S.E.B
THANK YOU ASHLEY WE HAVE NEVER SEEN HER BEFORE!!! Karen is just messy messy. So that absolves Gizelle and Robyn for however they are about to disrupt this event. Unfortunately Bravo is going to drag that out for another week so we will have to wait with bated breath.
How was my spelling guys? Not too bad? Let me know I will stop after the first bottle next time.
DEar Bravo, in order for a show to be interesting, the characters must do something interesting. You ruin every show by dragging out an arguement for weeks. Karen is messy, period. What else do you have? Can we get back to Ashley the gold digger and Michael the demanding dick head?
I swear, hou do this to every show. How many times do we have to revisit the Bethenny v Carole thing. I know Carole won’t let it go but tell us the reason and film something else. After all, Teresa has manned up for body building just across the river. I could see Ashley or Corole competing especially since Carole has the boy body and trains all the time. I would also like to see Karen do a Cabaret to shore up family finances.
Get with it Bravo!
Agreed!!! I’m waiting on the payoff here, crossing fingers next week we will get some resolutions, some confrontations, something to move these ladies forward
I guess this is one of the reasons why RHOP is one of my favorite Bravo shows right now. These shady ladies can’t stop with the messy boots!
Please forgive me, for I’m all in with the #GreenEyedBandits. Though I agree with you that Date-gate is pretty ridiculous, I still say Karen made it even more ridiculous by lying to Robyn about attending her event. Why couldn’t she just say she wanted to wait for more details about Monique’s event before committing to Robyn’s event?
As for Monique, Karen, and their fast friendship with Kyndall/S.E.B., that’s just messy on a whole ‘nother level. To me, it does appear that Monique is using Charrisse for connections, and that Karen is using Kyndall to retaliate against Gizelle’s poking into Karen’s- excuse me, Ray’s- little IRS issue. I can’t wait to see how Gizelle and Robyn strike back next week!
Karen and Gizelle both are messy. The only difference Gizelle’s pot stirring is a little on the immature side. Gizelle knows exactly how to gas up Robyn to go along for the drama ride. Sort of like a puppet master with a puppet. Candiace’s story line lack luster and not interesting. Mom is paying for her over the top wedding and her fiance is along for the ride. Okay. #Boring. I think Michael is looking for every excuse to finally end the marriage with his young gold digger, but he didn’t have be so nasty and so rude about Ashley’s mother and her parenting skills. If he wants out, just say so already. Kudos to Mr. Samuel for letting the world know there are men out there that don’t want bear claws on their feet. He appears to be a very sweet and supported husband. Watching S.E.B to see how she pans out as a friend of a housewife.
While it appears that Karen’s event was legitimate, I never heard of writing checks for charity to a private business. Someone please educate me. If it is improper, I hope a motivated IRS agent was watching. How do the ladies take a charitable deduction? More important, is Karen’s company taking the deduction by ultimately donating the money to the charity? I have so many questions. And Karen’s “don’t you dare question me and my actions” is growing very old. I certainly wouldn’t be writing any check to her company.
Karen needs to be slapped down.
Yep, it’s incredibly shady and messy to say the least. Either Karen’s using this to amass a giant tax deduction for herself, or she’s up to something far more nefarious. After watching the Teresa Giudice melodrama on RHOJ, I really hope it’s not the latter.
Totally improper and criminal to advertise for a 5013 c and put it into your private accounts. If she does have this charity there would be a tax deduction for anyone who donates. That is not the case if it is fed into a private account. I wouldn’t give her a dime.
This is more than shady
Yep. The IRS doesn’t play nicely with fools. Either Karen is such a fool, or she’s trying to fool the viewers and the feds.
News flash to Karen: The feds don’t care where you consider yourself “The Grande Dame” of.
Karen is not a party to her husband’s IRS dilemma. Whew! Oh, wait a minute, she wants her own! The Grande Scammer of Potomac.
It would seem that just making the check out to the actual charity would be the easiest way to do these things
Karen probably wanted to do a “dutch treat” table (where everyone pays for their own table.) But the ladies were slow in getting the checks in, so Karen had to spring for the whole cost in order to secure a table where they could all sit together.
That was risky. And now she has this mess where the ladies only want to reimburse her if they can get a tax write-off.
What she should do is ask each to pay 75% of the cost of a ticket to her (to reimburse her). That way they have a 25% savings, more or less equivalent to what they would have saved on taxes by contributing to a charity.
For example: the charity is selling tables of 10 seats at $10,000, or single seats for $1,000.
Karen, not knowing if the ladies would get their checks in on time (because they really seem to do a lot of last minute deciding), bought an entire table.
Now the ladies should each write her a check for $750, thereby building in a 25% savings off what the chairs cost. Consider that their tax write-off.
Karen, meanwhile, would get about $2,500 off her taxes which covers her $250 loss to each of the ladies, as well as a SINGLE $250 tax deduction for her own single seat.
(Illustrative purposes only. I left Ray and Kyndell’s tickets out of the equation to keep the logic clearer.)
Me too. I hope she realizes that someone at the IRS is watching Bravo. Let’s hope this is legit cause she will go down like Theresa.
I think Charice was side eyeing Kendal because she thinks that Kendal gonna take her place . She was given her all kinds of dirty looks. Karen’s a mess.. I could not believe she admitted that she was making them sign over check to her new corporation.. And why would she comp Kendals and then charge for so called friends? Wow
Yep, Kyndall’s entrance was an audition for season 4, and Charrisse, Robyn and Candiace (ugh the spelling on that name) all better be verrrry scurred.
Cannot stand the #greeneyedbandits and their smug “this isn’t an ambush, this is a message” nonsense. Gizelle was getting her rottweiler Robyn frothing at the mouth to sic on Karen, but looks like the joke may be on her.
Now that Ashley has signed the amendment, she has pinned all her hopes on a baby tying her financially to Michael. Nuh uh. Michael has her right where he wants her, and I predict a childless divorce sooner rather than later. I don’t think he trusts her, or her reasons for coming back to him. I think he feels her mother was behind the latter.
Michael doesn’t trust her because Ashley had no problem with Michael paying the Mom/boyfriend rent and expenses until Michael got fed up with it. He looks like the bad guy now when he was trying to help her mom. No good deed……
Agree with this, I think there is A LOT more to this story that Michael is trying to keep from saying on-camera for Ashley’s sake, but it’s getting turned around on him. There are most likely serious addiction issues going on and Ashley has probably been dealing with this since she was a little girl. Michael must see the effects a lifetime of enabling and neglect has had on Ashley (she is still enabling) that we clearly don’t during her few minutes of airtime each episode – and he is probably concerned for her and himself.
This makes sense, and this would explain his speech to her during their night out. Ashley is concerned for her mother’s well-being, and Michael’s concerned that Ashley has been way too willing to let her mother manipulate her and other loved ones. As someone who’s dealt with this kind of crap in my own family, I feel for both of them.
Hopefully, Ashley has since realized that she need not jeopardize her other relationships and her own well-being just to continue enabling her mother’s terrible life choices.
Michael looked like he was fighting tears. I think he genuinely is worried. I can’t blame him. I wonder if he questions if she wouldn’t end up doing the same shit to their kid or if she wouldn’t pick her mom over her husband AND her kid.
Yep I believe Kendall’s entrance was a big audition for Season 4. I say Charisse and Candiance are at risk of being axed.
Can I just say that Candiance’s hair bugs the heck out of me. I’m waiting for a squirrel to jump from out of there. I’m all for the glam look but it’s just too overwhelming for her small frame.
I would have still made out the check to the charity and just put in “Karen Huger’s table” on the memo, then handed Karen the check to turn in.
If what she said was true – that she wanted to make sure that they were giving enough or whatever her lame ass excuse was – then she wouldn’t have a problem with that.
Oh…. if only she pulled that shit with Bethenny…. LOL.
Yay, I love the Potomac recaps!
Sigh, these fake charity events are just an excuse to gather cash and then get a tax write-off, aren’t they?
When someone throws a “charity gala”, but has guests write checks to her private, for-profit corporation, it does make me wonder.
I’m sorry but the only thing Robyn empowers me to do is to press fast forward when I see her. I’ve always side-eyed those events anyway. Robyn’s hard times storyline is wearing on me. She was able to get on her feet because she has a BRAVO paycheck, not because of her business acumen. Sorrynotsorry. Come back when you have built your empire Robyn. If I’m wrong and she’s the next Warren Buffet, somebody set me straight. LOL. I’m so not a fan.
I feel sorry for Ashley. Her husband is a douche. I wonder if the post-nup agreement was signed before his comment at dinner or after. Ashely could be perfect but at his age, he probably doesn’t want to raise any more kids. I don’t blame him. BUT don’t lead the girl on.
Karen is crazy. I hope the IRS wasn’t watching – she can’t be that stupid (yeah she is). I feel sorry for Ray. Seems like he’s aged even more. IRS trouble is no joke.
Robyn and Gizelle are ridiculous. Robyn is perpetually offended and demands an apology for the slightest perceived insult. SEB is Gizelle’s storyline. She needs to embrace it. What else does she have? I do feel sorry for her about the breakup. It’s like she had no idea he was moving in the opposite direction.
SEB could easily slide into Charisse’s slot…
I doubt these RHOP women are getting a huge check for being on the show; it’s not exactly a ratings draw. So is Robyn back “on her feet,” so to speak? What exactly is she doing professionally or entrepreneurially to make this the focus of her event? I am happy for her if she is doing well financially, but it seems like she is trying to present this successful image more so to help whatever business ventures she plans to pursue, rather it actually being true. You know, power of positive thinking and all that.
I am sure whatever little bit of extra money she is getting from the show and/or social media helps. Juan also seems to have a steady job now. But come on, the entire event and her message just didn’t make sense.
She’s back on her feet because her husband got a job. That empower dinner didn’t make much sense. What were people there for? What was supposed to happen? Be inspired I guess but she just had platitudes rather than a plan of action for the ladies to leave fired up with.
I think Karen purchased a table at the event and it WASN’T her event. Ray looks so uncomfortable watching her lie. “Glad you kept it smaller this year”. Daughter “I made the seating chart”. Why does Karen lie! Embarrassed for her.
Candiace likes to pretend too. Her fiance didn’t wanna lie and pretend they are super rich when they are not. $165k for a wedding. There better be no child support stories out about him. Also heard her sister lives in the house with them too.
Glad somebody else called out Robin’s empowerment BS. She got out of her bind thanks to Bravo. What can she teach others: how to get on a reality show. Otherwise what business can she help with? No thanks!
Stupid bringing Sherman ex on. She has no place after this last episode. Hope the check is worth the humiliation. Giselle is awesum & will move on.
She’s going to talk about his escapade with the hooker in the park. That’s probably why he bowed out of any more filming (and ending his relationship with Giselle). It is too embarrassing.
It was stupid of Sherman to start a relationship with Giselle knowing she is on a reality show. Don’t date someone one on a show if you have skeletons in your closet .
Robyn flips houses for income
Not sure why you have to be so hard on Ashely’s husband ! He made it quite clear when he helped her mom out that the free loader had to go. Ashely’s mom knew the deal and didn’t hold through with the agreement. Why would Michael agree to pay for a free loader ? That is on ashley’s mom! Yes – help support family , but not if there is a free loader hanging on!
I can’t stand Karen and her better than everyone attitude with her nose in the air. I hope the IRS watching and they look further into her charity work and accounts. I don’t believe Ray was in this all by himself.
Thank you Amanda Z. for the recap. And I don’t think I have said WELCOME yet 😊.
I spaced out terribly during the episode, but really enjoyed the recap.
This season just seems very long and boring. Just nothing exciting to look forward to. (Except your recaps)
I get that Michael is fed up with Ashley’s momma drama, but to say he’s afraid that she’ll be a similar parent?! Dirty.
That was horrible regarding what he said. I don’t believe that she will be like her mother. In fact I believe she will be the polar opposite.
I don’t blame Michael for being a little leery about having a baby right now – he and Ashley were separated not that long ago, and the issue with her mom still isn’t settled. I’d be cautious if I were him and I’d want to feel more secure in my marriage before bringing a child into the world, if he even wants one. I understand Ashley wanting to know whether he will ever want children, and he should tell her. If he doesn’t, she should be free to make whatever decisions she feels she needs to make.
Whenever there is a conversation where one person says “not right now” or ” we’ll talk about later” I assume one of them are drunk, or its production probing.
I always think back to season one of RHNY and Bethenny talking to Jason (initial boyfriend), who didn’t want to talk about moving in together, (on camera, with Bethenny wasted, lol)
How much money does Michael have to make ataying in this marriage worthwhile for Ashley?
Of course as soon as he gets her signature on the extended pre-nup he starts backtracking on the having kids thing. him saying he didn’t want to have kids with ashley because he thought she’d be a bad parent like her own mom was some messed up shit
I totally agree with you. I now don’t see the marriage lasting. His comment is going to bite him in the butt.
Does anyone know why Charisse is now a “friend” and not a “housewife”?
Because she didn’t want her divorce proceedings to be discussed on the show, apparently. Hence the FOH spot. Might be a risky move, considering Kymdall and Candiace, but something tells me Charrisse will be back.
Thanks for the info. It’s weird cause she has been in every episode but yet she is not in the opening. I thought that Bravo had down graded her but that makes more sense. Charisse better watch it cause it looks like they are trying to bring Kendell in.
I haven’t watched this show yet, but this is a great recap–very entertaining! I laughed!
And I give you extra points for knowing it is “bated” breath, not “baited,” which is what people usually say, as if they just ate cut mullet or something.
(I hope this isn’t a duplicate comment. I tried to comment earlier but it never showed up. I hope I’m not in the WLS!)
Haha why thank you! I’m a stickler for some phrases also when ppl say I have it down pack instead of down pat I cringe inside
I am actually enjoying Charrisse’s scenes this season and wouldn’t mind if she came back full time. I’d be pretty happy to lose Candiace and get Charrisse back
Try as I might, I can’t get into Potomac. Amazed it gets renewed
I just want too see them All get their Hair and Wardrobe together!!! Come on Bravo No out Housewives Franchise Ladies look as tore up as the Potomac Housewives!!!!
I just want too see them All get their Hair and Wardrobe together!!! Come on Bravo No out Housewives Franchise Ladies look as tore up as the Potomac Housewives!!!!
There is no Gaylord Hotel in Potomac, MD. The Gaylord they were at is at the National Harbor(which is where they actually live) ……no where near Potomac,MD.
I’m still loving this franchise, but not for the reason BRAVO thinks. Fakery of who invited where is the usual scripted snooze, but the underlying real emotion makes me tune in. If that makes sense, lol.
Love the recap.
Oh also was embarrassed for Robyn – that event was whack. Words words words words EMPOWER words words words words ENTREPRENEURS words….so sadly pathetic.